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I respect the way Rob carried himself. Apparently he's a super successful entrepreneur though, so you could argue it's "easier" to be honest when that amount of money was the equivalent of $20 USD to him, lol.
Ryan was quick to say he was all about the honorable path, but seemed like the perfect front for the underlying "thanks for all that free money rob!" 😂
He's an honorable poker player. But this was a misstep by the floor here. The floor should have ruled the hand was mucked and taken the decision from the players.
Even if you muck. If you can identify the cards and they haven’t been mixed with the muck, you’re able to retrieve your cards back by rule. This is the case by most casinos
Going one step further, it's not even allowed in a tournament to muck in an all-in/call situation, so the QJ legally has to be tabled face up anyway, and then it's a live hand so it would have won. It's similar to the rule that you aren't allowed to check the nuts on the river when you're last to act.
I agree with you. The commentary said he mucked face up, which he did NOT. I was not aware of the "retrievable" rule. If you throw your hand face down into the muck, it's dead right?
He didn't "accidentally" fold the winner - he intentionally mucked his hand on the turn. There was no confusion or misunderstandng of the action so his muck is final. Credit to Rob Yong for understanding this and not trying to angle.
@@letsgobrandon6281it hurts my brain just thinking about a 'face up mucked hand' unless you announced fold It's not possible to do. maybe Alex just says things that are obviously wrong to generate comments, if so no one should watch his videos.
@@California_Pokerrob flipped the,mface up himself at 3 mins, he mucked face down, then he grabbed the muck cards and flipped it on screen. how does that look mucked up to you lmao get your eyes checked asap
@@pashpash1330he can also check 2:55 which is even better, Rob flips the mucked cards over himself to be face up lol rob clearly grabbed his own mucked cards and flips em for the table after he already mucked
hope he gets millions back in Karma for this. In fairness Ryan is a class act too imo, the roasting he put up with in the chat from myself and others back in the LATB days was unreal and he never banned anyone. I love the guy.
Ryan should have gave him the money. Rob gave him the out by saying he mucked and forget about it. But Ryan insisted over and over and said to run the hand. He did so because he thought the odds were so tiny he'd lose the hand. Why insist and run the river if you weren't going to give the chips up if you lose? Fair play from Rob but Ryan should pay up.
Nice vid as always -- just a small bit of feedback, try not to have your captions cover any of the on screen graphics/hole cards. If possible. Anyways, this is kind of a weird spot. Sure he mucked, but they were def retrievable. And cards were flipped over, and a river was dealt. I feel like all of that should overrule any "dead mucked cards" -- or else the river shouldve never even been dealt then. They should just split the pot and move onto the next hand. edit: looks like they go away after the intro so no big deal. maybe just weird production goof
Even though each room has different rules, as a poker dealer myself, in our room in a cash game if a player throws his cards in and is able to retrieve the hand before the dealer puts them in the muck the hand is still technically live.
That McCormick tweet nails it. If a floor were to be called over, the pot would go to Rob. Even though the cards were mucked face down, the cards were never pulled into the muck or anywhere close. They are retrievable and identifiable. It's a live hand 100% of the time. However, these high stakes/stream games often bend the rules for a variety of reasons as long as the players agreed. Rob decided his honor was worth more than the pot and decided to accept the mistake he made and give Ryan the pot. I'm hella jealous of Rob. I wish I could brain fart 200k away and just laugh at myself. Must be nice lol
Here is rule of thumb which I go by in poker (not that I play much). Always open my hand at showdown even though I believe I've lost the pot. This gives the dealer the job of qualifying the winning hand. I'm not so insecure that I care what others think of what I've shown down with. If table mates want to take something away from how I showed down with my two cards....then have at it. Consider not attempting to "be cool" (or saving face) by calculating your own hand by mucking instead of allowing the dealer to do it. In fact, I recall an occasion where both myself and the dealer were wrong in the analysis at showdown but a table mate made the correction.
I mean if you been in the game for a long time this is just amateur behaviour, not that there is anything wrong with it, but at my casino you would instantly become a target if you start to show losing hands. I get that its easier to just let the dealer qualify your hand but it makes you look like an amateur, its not about being insecure, its about giving away free information to your opponents. Which if you want to be a winning player is not the best idea. But if you are just there to have fun who am i to say otherwise.
@@glennhagstedtYou've just spelled out the general consensus which I why I specifically made the post. "Amateur" - you bet I am along with the majority of poker players across the world. IMO there is way too much credence placed on the information gathering aspect of showing a losing hand face up. Who is to say that any player would play the same hand twice the same way.
@@MelodyMaker I get that and its fine, i didnt mean to offend. Its not way to much credence placed on the information about showing your hand, its the exact opposite, you underestimate how clever some people are when playing poker, they see how you play one hand and can see how you play your specific range in certain spots and then they adjust, they are called sharks for a reason, they smell blood and they go after it. Professionals dont see you play KJ a certain way and then they know how you play exactly KJ, they see ranges and sizings you use and then they adjust. Giving away that information for free every single time when in a pot gives them more then a massive advantage.
Ryan wanted to be able to keep the facade of being all ethical and moral"no no it's ok Rob it's ok"Cuz he knows it's so unlikely Rob hits a Queen Until the river hits"What are you fkn kidding me" and proceeds not to give any back,which he could have if he wanted....just mumbles to give the appearance he wants to.... Weather it's right or wrong.Ryan is that guy with a smile on his face and knife behind his back not to be trusted.Always out for himself despite the disguise.
Ryan is a showrunner and doesn't want any scandals or accusations of Rob paying him off for seats or preferential behavior in the future. Rob is also sitting on 3/4 million while Ryan is sitting on 80k which implies that the $80,000 loss isn't relatively that much to Rob as it would be to the average poker player.
" I don't care about rules" Ryan Feldman. Rob mucked and is a realist and it's on his terms. He's a real one for this. It cuts out EVERY opportunity for mud flinging the way he handled it. Rules are rules, but you can't tell him what to do in this scenario.
Rob is a business, and he understands that Ryan is also a businessman, a complete gentleman, and a class act. He doesn't care about losing the 50K because, eventually, he can do business with him. Roba have class.
If the dealer hasn't put cards in muck or the cards don't hit muck they are still alive. These are guys with too much money. I was drawing for flush and straight and on river i missed flush and had forgotten about straight but guy beside me said you had a straight so i beat dealer to cards and flipped them over. My opponent went ballistic as he should. He left but I chased him down and gave him his last bet of $75 back and I told him I was sorry. He maybe lost $20. I don't want enemies in poker these days. He should had been mad at the player not in the hand telling me I had a straight.
Feldman is such a sleazebag. He pretends to be all “cool and like no bro it’s okay your hand is not dead to show rob he is a cool guy and standup and what not bullshit” cause really he has like what 6% equity?” but he gets sucked out on. Hey are you sure? Dude you either lost the hand or you didn’t. They is no “you sure” or he wanted to take back “your hand is not dead statement”?
Out of curiosity, what is the normal ruling if he mucked the hand face down, and say the dealer had it in her hand but he stopped her from putting it in the muck and asked for his hand back to table it? Is it dead at that point? Reason I ask is i saw a similar situation happen not to long ago and curious as to how others would rule it?
FYI one of the other players in the hand started chirping that the dealers hand is an extension of the mucked, but others said that's not true and if it's retrievable it can be tabled (cards were in the dealers hand but not slid into muck). Ultimately the floor ruled the hand dead, but the floor man seemed new and was definitely pursueded by the other player. Regardless, I am curious what other players think
A player can surrender his hand at any time. He can also bet at any time. In this case, Rob mucked, but THEN retrieved his hand. But then, he surrendered it, so the hand was over.
Can someone clarify - Rob's chips which were put in to call Ryan's 'all in' - where did those chips end up? Did Rob get them back, or did Ryan win them? I'd say there's one action per hand. Rob's action was to call. You can't fold after calling. You can muck, but that would be as silly as the player in the big blind position on an unraised pre-flop folding (which you obviously do see in amateur games where folk aren't paying attention).
Hi Alex. Can you do a video on gambledore epic victory at Triton. The way he briskly walked off stage without lifting the trophy or getting interviewed will go down in history.
Nods ... Rob did the honorable thing , considering keeping Intent / Integrity in line with the Action .. when he "released" his cards Face Down that was "submission" , which Automatically Folded his cards . ( period ) He showed Honor & Integrity by Accepting the consequences .. KUDOS !
Ryan certainly seems like a scumbag. Insists that the hand is not dead. As soon as the Q comes, he switches to "you don't have to", "are you sure you fold?".
If he has made the call for the Allin then there is nothing else to do with the hand other than see the remaining cards be dealt, he can't fold at the point that he see's his opponents hand because he has already called and now his cards are in play until the river and the hand then being concluded.
Feldman honestly came across as an absolute idiot. Yong did the right thing, Feldman wanted to take a victory lap with his winning hand, and made the situation infinitely worse. Should have just accepted the muck when it happened and left it there. What an absolute tool.
He did not muck his hand face up. The dealer turned his cards over. Once you muck, your hand is dead. If you say I fold, your hand is dead. If you say I call, you have to put in the chips.
It was never even mucked to begin with, this makes no sense....Your hand is only mucked in an all in if the dealer takes it away and mixes it up... just because he tabled his cards face down means absolutely nothing lol...The reason tabling face down in an all-in IS NOT a fold, is because what if you mean to table them face up but they hit the table weird and flipped face down on accident...your telling me that’s a fold then? Cmon now lol
Good on them both, I think Rob's larger point is that if this were just a cash game being played in a room somewhere and he mucks his hand, there wouldn't be any further action and the dealer would just pull them in, ship the pot to Ryan and be on with the next hand. I guess the stream adds some reason to deal a river, even though I'm not totally sure why. It's not like it's a tournament all-in and call. But I think if Rob had been someone who didn't want to surrender the pot, then the ruling would go in his favor since his hand was clearly retrievable and it's a stream so obviously it's identifiable.
He mucked his cards but they didn't "go into the much" His hand was very much still alive, he needs to not be playing if he's that tired, he actually doesn't know what planet he's on in this clip and it happens to us all but wow...
While I highly respect Rob's honor here, he clearly doesn't understand the rule. The rule is that if your cards are "retirievable" (i.e. your cards haven't actually touched the muck pile), you're still fine. In this case, the cards were very clearly retrievable and he was still live when the queen hit. Rob wins the pot.
@aheroictaxidriver3180 I literally told you the definition of "surrendering". He didn't do it. He merely threw his cards into the middle. By definition, that is not "surrendering"
@@sawmill035 You should find a use for the space inside your skull. He threw his cards onto the table, then he retrieved them, then he turned them over, and then he surrendered, he declared his hand was dead. A player can do that at ANY time.
He did not muck his hand face up. He mucked his hand face down, and if it wasn't for the fact that it was a stream his hand would've been scooped into the discards face down and the river not even dealt out.
Yoh Viral with some mindless commentary. Rob deserves the pot, pretty ridiculous for Ryan to keep it after both hands were legit tabled. I get it, it’s a lot of money but not right for Ryan to keep the pot IMO
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did you really see him muck it face up? that's very odd. I'm going to have to question everything you say..
what do you suppose he's doing at 2:55
@@user-ld2fl7vv9g he did NOT muck his hand face up lol
@@user-ld2fl7vv9g If he mucked non face up, then my mistake. Doesn't change the fact the hand was retrievable
The definition of honor. He was open with his intention. This guy's word is gold.
helps being a gazillionaire
Ryan is the definition of honor. He was open with his intention. This guy’s word is gold.
The nose went home with the money otherwise it would have been anudda shoa
Rob is really really honest & gracious. He intended to muck, and he was totally honest about it. It really shows Rob's character in a significant way.
I respect the way Rob carried himself. Apparently he's a super successful entrepreneur though, so you could argue it's "easier" to be honest when that amount of money was the equivalent of $20 USD to him, lol.
@@JS-hp7xq You could argue that, but it doesn't stop lots of millionaires and billionaires from being dicks about $5
Rob is a man of his words. True gentleman. If you want a business partner, Rob is the man.
What an honorable play. Much respect ♠️♥️♣️♦️
He must have lots of fun coupons
Who else thinks Rob is too nice 😂
Ryan was quick to say he was all about the honorable path, but seemed like the perfect front for the underlying "thanks for all that free money rob!" 😂
He was stream nice, and it’s Ryan.
He's an honorable poker player. But this was a misstep by the floor here. The floor should have ruled the hand was mucked and taken the decision from the players.
@@rustycolon9368High stakes it's very common to let players control the game unless they can't.
Interesting video thanks for posting.
Set up
4:52 he didn't muck face up, he mucked face down
i thought i was trippin
Yes it 💯 makes a huge difference
@@nollieRR
Big difference
Its not a muck if it's face up onto the felt lol
He mucked face down but then he turned his cards over himself so it could be considered a muck because of that
Even if you muck. If you can identify the cards and they haven’t been mixed with the muck, you’re able to retrieve your cards back by rule. This is the case by most casinos
Going one step further, it's not even allowed in a tournament to muck in an all-in/call situation, so the QJ legally has to be tabled face up anyway, and then it's a live hand so it would have won. It's similar to the rule that you aren't allowed to check the nuts on the river when you're last to act.
@@BrettMKWthis was a cash game not a turnament
@@Microdread288 Ahh, right, my bad. Thanks for correcting me (no really, thanks!)
@BrettMKW you thought this was a tournament 🤣🤡🤣🤡🤣🤡
At my local card rooms a mucked hand is instantly declared dead
What a legend. Honor before money. 2:52 he actually mucked face down. Please watch again he had to flip them over.
doesn’t look like he mucked his hand face up
Yeah it was face down and then he later flipped them up to show for the stream
I agree with you. The commentary said he mucked face up, which he did NOT. I was not aware of the "retrievable" rule. If you throw your hand face down into the muck, it's dead right?
He mucked his hand and stood by it , like he should
Not entirely in this case. Cards were def retrievable and were turned over.
@@omgbaxtergames 100%.
He didn't "accidentally" fold the winner - he intentionally mucked his hand on the turn. There was no confusion or misunderstandng of the action so his muck is final. Credit to Rob Yong for understanding this and not trying to angle.
4:50 he mucked his hand face up? did you really say that? is that even possible?
He's wrong. He mucked them down
@@letsgobrandon6281it hurts my brain just thinking about a 'face up mucked hand' unless you announced fold It's not possible to do.
maybe Alex just says things that are obviously wrong to generate comments, if so no one should watch his videos.
the muck is not the edge of the chips, it's the day cards that the dealer has with all of the discarded hands in play
he didnt muck face up, it was face down
Looked face up to me
@@California_Poker check 4:50 he mucks the hand clearly face down. The cards which are up is ryan´s hand.
@@California_Pokerrob flipped the,mface up himself at 3 mins, he mucked face down, then he grabbed the muck cards and flipped it on screen. how does that look mucked up to you lmao get your eyes checked asap
@@pashpash1330he can also check 2:55 which is even better, Rob flips the mucked cards over himself to be face up lol
rob clearly grabbed his own mucked cards and flips em for the table after he already mucked
Rob Yong is the ultimate gentleman. Just an honourable person. Good karma for him.
Rob is a good man and so is Ryan. Robs hand technically still alive because it was not mixed with other cards.
Then he retrieved it, then he surrendered it and declared the hand was over.
@@jonphanspromotions haha good one
@@jonphanspromotions oh you were serious
As soon as he verbalized that he mucked though, the hand is over.
What a class act. Rob Yong might ramble on way too long about topics but he is a man of honor.
hope he gets millions back in Karma for this. In fairness Ryan is a class act too imo, the roasting he put up with in the chat from myself and others back in the LATB days was unreal and he never banned anyone. I love the guy.
Integrity we need more of this in the game hats off to Rob
Rob is honest. Ryan is an absolute conniving snake.
@@BCSExpress1 saying the truth is not allowed
You're not right in the head
chaos "ensues" 2:42
I'm glad someone else pointed this out
Robs social credit just went up +100
Ryan should have gave him the money. Rob gave him the out by saying he mucked and forget about it. But Ryan insisted over and over and said to run the hand. He did so because he thought the odds were so tiny he'd lose the hand. Why insist and run the river if you weren't going to give the chips up if you lose? Fair play from Rob but Ryan should pay up.
Ryan aka Eddie Munster is a Scumgbag just like his partner Nick Vitucci
Nice vid as always -- just a small bit of feedback, try not to have your captions cover any of the on screen graphics/hole cards. If possible. Anyways, this is kind of a weird spot. Sure he mucked, but they were def retrievable. And cards were flipped over, and a river was dealt. I feel like all of that should overrule any "dead mucked cards" -- or else the river shouldve never even been dealt then.
They should just split the pot and move onto the next hand.
edit: looks like they go away after the intro so no big deal. maybe just weird production goof
One player to a hand, Ryan is not allowed to tell Rob he is drawing live anyways.
This man is class… I’ve met Rob many times at Dusk and he is a true gent…
Even though each room has different rules, as a poker dealer myself, in our room in a cash game if a player throws his cards in and is able to retrieve the hand before the dealer puts them in the muck the hand is still technically live.
That McCormick tweet nails it. If a floor were to be called over, the pot would go to Rob. Even though the cards were mucked face down, the cards were never pulled into the muck or anywhere close. They are retrievable and identifiable. It's a live hand 100% of the time. However, these high stakes/stream games often bend the rules for a variety of reasons as long as the players agreed. Rob decided his honor was worth more than the pot and decided to accept the mistake he made and give Ryan the pot.
I'm hella jealous of Rob. I wish I could brain fart 200k away and just laugh at myself. Must be nice lol
Here is rule of thumb which I go by in poker (not that I play much). Always open my hand at showdown even though I believe I've lost the pot. This gives the dealer the job of qualifying the winning hand. I'm not so insecure that I care what others think of what I've shown down with. If table mates want to take something away from how I showed down with my two cards....then have at it. Consider not attempting to "be cool" (or saving face) by calculating your own hand by mucking instead of allowing the dealer to do it. In fact, I recall an occasion where both myself and the dealer were wrong in the analysis at showdown but a table mate made the correction.
I do the same.
@@michaelgrubb8896no way my man. Opening your hand gives away far too much info to the other players
I mean if you been in the game for a long time this is just amateur behaviour, not that there is anything wrong with it, but at my casino you would instantly become a target if you start to show losing hands. I get that its easier to just let the dealer qualify your hand but it makes you look like an amateur, its not about being insecure, its about giving away free information to your opponents. Which if you want to be a winning player is not the best idea.
But if you are just there to have fun who am i to say otherwise.
@@glennhagstedtYou've just spelled out the general consensus which I why I specifically made the post. "Amateur" - you bet I am along with the majority of poker players across the world. IMO there is way too much credence placed on the information gathering aspect of showing a losing hand face up. Who is to say that any player would play the same hand twice the same way.
@@MelodyMaker I get that and its fine, i didnt mean to offend.
Its not way to much credence placed on the information about showing your hand, its the exact opposite, you underestimate how clever some people are when playing poker, they see how you play one hand and can see how you play your specific range in certain spots and then they adjust, they are called sharks for a reason, they smell blood and they go after it.
Professionals dont see you play KJ a certain way and then they know how you play exactly KJ, they see ranges and sizings you use and then they adjust.
Giving away that information for free every single time when in a pot gives them more then a massive advantage.
wow this is a man of honor.
Ryan wanted to be able to keep the facade of being all ethical and moral"no no it's ok Rob it's ok"Cuz he knows it's so unlikely Rob hits a Queen
Until the river hits"What are you fkn kidding me" and proceeds not to give any back,which he could have if he wanted....just mumbles to give the appearance he wants to....
Weather it's right or wrong.Ryan is that guy with a smile on his face and knife behind his back not to be trusted.Always out for himself despite the disguise.
This. 100%
Ryan is a showrunner and doesn't want any scandals or accusations of Rob paying him off for seats or preferential behavior in the future. Rob is also sitting on 3/4 million while Ryan is sitting on 80k which implies that the $80,000 loss isn't relatively that much to Rob as it would be to the average poker player.
Should've offered a split at least
yea thats what i saw lol
Can’t believe the dude didn’t push rob the pot. He didn’t even try. Didn’t offer to split it
dynamic shuffle? what's that? it's always changing?
" I don't care about rules" Ryan Feldman.
Rob mucked and is a realist and it's on his terms. He's a real one for this. It cuts out EVERY opportunity for mud flinging the way he handled it.
Rules are rules, but you can't tell him what to do in this scenario.
With everything that's gone down with HCL...he's likely now hyper sensitive to situations like this and consequently saying stupid things in lieu.
Trust me this is not realism but optimism. He is so idealistic not realistic.
Great guy. Lots of integrity.
4:50 he didnt muck his hand face up though...@Alex Duvall
Rob is a business, and he understands that Ryan is also a businessman, a complete gentleman, and a class act. He doesn't care about losing the 50K because, eventually, he can do business with him. Roba have class.
If the dealer hasn't put cards in muck or the cards don't hit muck they are still alive. These are guys with too much money. I was drawing for flush and straight and on river i missed flush and had forgotten about straight but guy beside me said you had a straight so i beat dealer to cards and flipped them over. My opponent went ballistic as he should. He left but I chased him down and gave him his last bet of $75 back and I told him I was sorry. He maybe lost $20. I don't want enemies in poker these days. He should had been mad at the player not in the hand telling me I had a straight.
This is the most insane hand ever filmed and Rob Yong is a legend and a gentleman.
Ryan Feldman
Saying he doesn’t care about rules or money but just wants to do the ‘right thing’ is absolutely hilarious….
Ryan is so concerned with doing the right thing he went and donated the pot to Rob's favorite charity, right?
That's some next level integrity
Feldman is such a sleazebag. He pretends to be all “cool and like no bro it’s okay your hand is not dead to show rob he is a cool guy and standup and what not bullshit” cause really he has like what 6% equity?” but he gets sucked out on.
Hey are you sure? Dude you either lost the hand or you didn’t. They is no “you sure” or he wanted to take back “your hand is not dead statement”?
I will always remember the day I saw the most honorable man in poker play. Wow!
Out of curiosity, what is the normal ruling if he mucked the hand face down, and say the dealer had it in her hand but he stopped her from putting it in the muck and asked for his hand back to table it? Is it dead at that point? Reason I ask is i saw a similar situation happen not to long ago and curious as to how others would rule it?
FYI one of the other players in the hand started chirping that the dealers hand is an extension of the mucked, but others said that's not true and if it's retrievable it can be tabled (cards were in the dealers hand but not slid into muck). Ultimately the floor ruled the hand dead, but the floor man seemed new and was definitely pursueded by the other player. Regardless, I am curious what other players think
As long as they are clearly identifiable they can be re-claimed.
Mooked
All of this would of been nothing had they not run the river card . His cards was dead as soon as he mucked it .
Rob was wrong. But you would always be fortunate to do business with him. Pure, honest, and moral
A player can surrender his hand at any time. He can also bet at any time. In this case, Rob mucked, but THEN retrieved his hand. But then, he surrendered it, so the hand was over.
I didn't think he "mucked his hand face up", did he?
Can someone clarify - Rob's chips which were put in to call Ryan's 'all in' - where did those chips end up? Did Rob get them back, or did Ryan win them? I'd say there's one action per hand. Rob's action was to call. You can't fold after calling. You can muck, but that would be as silly as the player in the big blind position on an unraised pre-flop folding (which you obviously do see in amateur games where folk aren't paying attention).
I respect this guy, he followed the rules and owned up to his mistake
Rob's explanation as to why his hand is dead makes complete sense. If it wasn't a stream his hand would never have been turned face up.
Ahh finally.. this make a lot of sense. Thanks for pointing it out ✌🏼
He turned it face up himself. His hole cards had already appeared in the graphic, so there was no need to do that for the stream.
Never hit the muck n he turned it faced up 🤦🏻♂️
Hi Alex. Can you do a video on gambledore epic victory at Triton.
The way he briskly walked off stage without lifting the trophy or getting interviewed will go down in history.
Coming soon 🎅🎅🎅
He didn't know he'd won
Rob is so nice that it should be illegal and punishable by sitting out an entire orbit
Nods ... Rob did the honorable thing , considering keeping Intent / Integrity in line with the Action .. when he "released" his cards Face Down that was "submission" , which Automatically Folded his cards . ( period ) He showed Honor & Integrity by Accepting the consequences .. KUDOS !
If other poker players or people in general lived by Robs' principles the world would be an easier place to navigate.
Rob Young stand up guy and playing by the laws of poker
Rob is a class-act.
Great poker enthusiasts and a honnorable
Ryan certainly seems like a scumbag. Insists that the hand is not dead. As soon as the Q comes, he switches to "you don't have to", "are you sure you fold?".
yep two faced snake. why insist on running the river if you have zero intention to stand by the result.
what a weasel
Yeah lol what a btch man, push Rob the pot
Wow, a poker player with integrity.
If he has made the call for the Allin then there is nothing else to do with the hand other than see the remaining cards be dealt, he can't fold at the point that he see's his opponents hand because he has already called and now his cards are in play until the river and the hand then being concluded.
Right? As far as I know if u are all in how could you muck?
That dude is a real man.
Rob’s a businessman. This will pay him back 10 times over in the future.
Feldman honestly came across as an absolute idiot. Yong did the right thing, Feldman wanted to take a victory lap with his winning hand, and made the situation infinitely worse. Should have just accepted the muck when it happened and left it there. What an absolute tool.
Rob classy as ever, what a man
Rob , is right , hè is the man !!! Always be honest no matter what happens .
Respect. I hope he crushes.
He did not muck his hand face up. The dealer turned his cards over. Once you muck, your hand is dead. If you say I fold, your hand is dead. If you say I call, you have to put in the chips.
If you don’t call a bet how could you possibly win , I don’t understand how your mad can be “retrievable”
He has lots of similarities to his buddy NIT vertucci! That’s a classic JEW FIELDMAN move!
*Ryan
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It was never even mucked to begin with, this makes no sense....Your hand is only mucked in an all in if the dealer takes it away and mixes it up... just because he tabled his cards face down means absolutely nothing lol...The reason tabling face down in an all-in IS NOT a fold, is because what if you mean to table them face up but they hit the table weird and flipped face down on accident...your telling me that’s a fold then? Cmon now lol
The cards have to actually hit the muck for it to be a fold by the book. So his hand is technically live
Good on them both, I think Rob's larger point is that if this were just a cash game being played in a room somewhere and he mucks his hand, there wouldn't be any further action and the dealer would just pull them in, ship the pot to Ryan and be on with the next hand. I guess the stream adds some reason to deal a river, even though I'm not totally sure why. It's not like it's a tournament all-in and call. But I think if Rob had been someone who didn't want to surrender the pot, then the ruling would go in his favor since his hand was clearly retrievable and it's a stream so obviously it's identifiable.
Nothing but class from Rob, honest mistake and he owned it.
That.s NOT muck,cause is retreavable,plus is ot in the actual muck,is on the side.Plus HE PAID the allin,and turn the cards uspide.so is not fold/muck
He mucked his cards but they didn't "go into the much" His hand was very much still alive, he needs to not be playing if he's that tired, he actually doesn't know what planet he's on in this clip and it happens to us all but wow...
This seems completely scripted. Like a lot of hustler streams.
How can you muck a hand in a all-in situation?
So Ryan pretended to be ethical until the queens hit and he's like you can keep 50
True English gentleman.
Well done Rob.
Great guy Rob
While I highly respect Rob's honor here, he clearly doesn't understand the rule.
The rule is that if your cards are "retirievable" (i.e. your cards haven't actually touched the muck pile), you're still fine.
In this case, the cards were very clearly retrievable and he was still live when the queen hit. Rob wins the pot.
His hand was NOT live because he surrendered before the queen was dealt. A player can surrender his hand at any time.
@aheroictaxidriver3180 I literally told you the definition of "surrendering". He didn't do it. He merely threw his cards into the middle. By definition, that is not "surrendering"
@@sawmill035 You should find a use for the space inside your skull. He threw his cards onto the table, then he retrieved them, then he turned them over, and then he surrendered, he declared his hand was dead. A player can do that at ANY time.
The honorable thing to do from Ryan was to give him half the pot
If the hand hasn’t touched the muck ( the dealers stack of dealing cards) then it is still live regardless of what you did
Character is important in life. As an olive branch. Ryan should of insisted they run 3 times.
it’s not faced up when he is mucking.
I love Ryan Feldman!
Technically, his cards didn’t hit the muck so they’re technically retrievable.
He did not muck his hand face up. He mucked his hand face down, and if it wasn't for the fact that it was a stream his hand would've been scooped into the discards face down and the river not even dealt out.
So he mucked his hand? B4 the river was dealt? Lol
Much respect to Rob. He shouldn’t have mucked in the first place.
He mucked face down in a normal game dealer grabs cards and mucks them , he grabbed cards out of muck and showed a Queen
Not sure if I could be that magnanimous for over a hundred grand.
Only way for Ryan to win if someone fold winning hand. 😂
Yoh Viral with some mindless commentary. Rob deserves the pot, pretty ridiculous for Ryan to keep it after both hands were legit tabled. I get it, it’s a lot of money but not right for Ryan to keep the pot IMO
Ryan should give him half and be a gentleman. Then its noble of them both and both gain honor.
weren't the cards face down