Major design flaw in the new LEGO Star Wars UCS AT-AT? I don't think so.
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2021
- The new LEGO 75313 UCS AT-AT is an awesome set, but according to some recent reports it has a big design flaw - some Technic assemblies cannot be taken apart without damaging the parts. Is it really the case? Let's find it out!
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UPDATE - to make it clear, the knife was *not used* for the disassembly, just tried to show what was suggested in the article. Here's a more detailed video about the story - ua-cam.com/video/4U4yZ3tVq4w/v-deo.html
When it comes to UCS sets - since these are preimium products- there are two kinds of customers: those who never take it apart, and those who never build it in the first place. Only a few unlucky people will have to do away with it.
So true..
Hard disagree. I build and take apart all my sets, and store then in crates, in zip bags, to rebuild at a later time.. For me the pleasure of Lego is in the building process and I don't have the space to keep my models on display at all time. I also disassemble puzzles when I'm done with them..
Disagree. I just don't have enough space to permanently display every UCS I have, so I rotate them - I periodically take them apart and build another one. I do keep some of the subassemblies intact for some though (like the Millennium Falcon for example)
@@benjamincontant9531 totally agree 👍
@@benjamincontant9531 weird, I don't remember leaving this comment... To be fair though I only have one UCS set (Slave I) almost precisely because I disassemble my sets and pack them up. I don't really like super long builds, I prefer fun build techniques over big builds.
Unpopular design choice used here, interesting. I would personally just use a piece of stocky duct tape (like Gorilla tape), press it firmly onto the axle "head", and gently remove, hopefully taking the axle part out with it.
I had to resort to using a knife when I accidentally built something like this into a MOC, surprised to see it from LEGO
I also managed to get technic pieces trapped in this very technic frame. There was no way of removing them without cutting a pin in half. Hated doing that, but I learned to be more careful while putting stuff together. The fact that this got green-lit baffles me.
The smaller set 75288 has the same issue. I had to use a needle to disassemble it.
I almost did so yesterday. Luckily my brain was like "hold up"
AT-AT: has disappearing pin
Lamborghini Sian: First time?
This proved an issue for me when I was building as I attached the grey piece to the wrong side of the gear and struggled to get it back apart, had to use a knife to pull if out like the first method you shown, took me a while to figure it out though
Interesting, and good to know for anyone intending to someday pull this thing apart. As for design flaws, the 2020 AT AT has serious ratchet issues after having only built it less than a year. It'll still stand, but forget posing it as I find it'll just collapse due to the weight.
Yea my ATAT loves to do squats on its own before I placed a base plate. ;)
For me this was a problem even though I never wanted to take the set apart: it is possible to make an error on page 89 of the manual, and put the technic frame on the WRONG side of the rotating disc. You'll only notice this when it's too late at the time of attaching the leg and trying the mechanism: the technic frame rotated loosely while it should be fixed to the disc. So, I had to look up this vid and in the end I used a blunt knife to take the rod out. Once put on the correct side the problem is solved. Took me half an hour of wtf-ing before I noticed the two tints of grey didn't match the figure on page 89.
Thanks for debunking this. It's what I also thought, that it's not an impossible task due to flexibility and axial freeplay.
What is your opinion on the ease of pulling out the new type of technic pin without side slots, Balázs?
I did not notice any particular difference with the new ones honestly
There's a new technic pin?
nope
2 l pin with stop brush
You can use any needle to put axle out
Once in a moc I accidentally added parts that to this day is impossible to remove, it haunts my dreams
ikr for years this one bionicle foot has taunted me after having a couple technic pieces in there stuck like this
I highly doubt this was accidental. They wanted to make this build stable at all costs. Probably was the only way to do so.
The main reason they never built a UCS AT-AT was because of the legs. The way they were built were due to circumstance , otherwise we may not have the set yet or at all
Hard to find a set without such "traits" nowadays, especially in technic line... Either problems with too soft suspension (Bugatti), 50 shades of green (Lamborghini Sian) or use of parts with friction ridges where there should be the non-friction used (e.g. winch of Jeep Wrangler), huge flaw in Zetros (you showed how to fix it, @RacingBrick) and gear-eating and canceled Osprey...
The suspension of the Bugatti was not too soft, it had too much friction. It's almost the same problem as with the steering of the 42114: If you use non-friction pins it is wobbly, if you use pins with friction it has friction... And since you cannot always use axles with stopper -> choose your poison.
Any Lego blocks you have to push into holes in a set you recently opened is always almost impossible
I had same mistake in my moc, but with servo motor, it is not as flexible as shown and i lost more time to pull it out
do i care about scratches on a part that i will never see closely?
no.
Luckily the pin connector have the hole at the middle!
I suggest a really easy solution not you to do but lego should just make the lip (top) of the axel bigger
Nonissue, I think most adult builders could figure this out. If you're new to Lego may be a bit tricky.
People new to Lego aren't buying the 800$ At At
I had the same problem with the UCS a-wing.
Imagine putting the old tube there without the slot and pushing a 4 long axle without stop into it. Then you‘re done.
Lego Exo Force had a worse one!
Still easier than separating two plates without a brick separator
I think lego is expecting this set to be assembled and (more or less) never touched again. Most of these massive star wars sets and display pieces, not play pieces. I think lego was just looking for something that works and looks good. Rather then "easy to dismantle". It is a lego set, so it should be able to be taken apart. But it's a special kind of lego set, so it's somewhat understandable
Honestly, it's such a minor issue and the assembly is small, I don't get why people care so much
This “flaw” isn’t a big deal. Very little people will actually take that piece apart….People are still resentful with Lego over the UCS gunship so this is just another way they are showing that
I think Lego always was a mark that was based on creativity, that means, that you should be able to modify everything (deasamble the sets). Now, if you use a building technique like that one, that you can't really deasamble, for me, that means that Lego hasn't the creativity on first place anymore, and that's sad to see.
This "design flaw" doesnt even matter because who the heck would want to talk apart their 6000 piece $800 Lego set
The Technic Corvette had a similar issue and was a nightmare to take apart if you built the engine and drive train incorrectly.
Gonna be honest.. who’s gonna take apart a $800 collectors set?
I honestly don’t think it’s a flaw or issue the majority of lego fans buying a 800$ set want it for display not to break it so I think it’s okay.
technic as a whole has never really been that east to get apart like the corvette it takes me longer to pull it apart then it does to build it
Not a FLAW its encouragment to NOT TAKE IT APART AGAIN.
First off what young child it breaking it up without an brick separater
I made that mistake four times when building mine….
Actually not sure if fully impossible, since I did it, but the Bugatti had similar parts around and behind the middle dashboard. It took physical strength and stressing to get it out.
Oh god this is Exo-Force all over again
I think the entire setup could be easily replaced with a single pin at the end of the frame without the axles through the frame.
I don't think so, check the video in the pinned comment :)
Literally no reason to ever disassemble that leg portion… also you can easily get it out without a blade or much of anything
definition of clickbait. HUGE design flaw!!!
“it isn’t too important unless you want to take it apart at some point”
Ok, not much of a problem with flexible Lego but still poor design. Lego Technic is used to by some to demo mechanical mechanisms and should, amongst other things, be teaching good engineering practice and this clearly is not. There are lots of sound engineering solutions if flush shafts are required - an extraction bolt hole being one.
This isn't a Technic set.
Having just assembled this set, I'm more pissed at the overall flimsiness and alignment of the armor panels. It doesn't require Skywalker to destroy it-a small touch from an inquisitive person and it falls down like a house of cards.
LEGOs in 2000's is like the plastic model kits we built in the 1970s. When LEGO started making "kits" with instructions on how to build X, that's when the entire notion of "figure it out yourself" went out the window.
When I was a kid, I found a picture of the USS Kittyhawk in one of my dad's books and used damn near every LEGO block we had to build it, figuring it out myself. So I take these complaints about LEGOs with a grain of salt. Anyone interested in "free play" isn't buying a step-by-step set in the first place.
Okay boomer
@@igotin9264 Baby Boomers were born from 1946 to 1964. I was born in 1969. Get your juvenile insults accurate.
I did the same thing for the technic truck
The complaints about this are silly it's an almost 1k set your gonna build it and not take it apart it's necessary to do things like this because it's freaking huge and heavy also side note it's easy to take that piece out you don't even need tools this set is a masterpiece I see very few flaws and that's just because Lego connections can sometimes be weak so small parts may fall off but it's a simple fix this set is perfect and I can't say it's the best set because I have so many sets I love but it is my favorite right now
Good spot and how long of a build time compared to the UCS Falcon. Is it a quicker build.? Thanks.
its not first time when you push axle full in like this i would say?
Interesting! That's not something I see coming from an actual Lego set very often.
But now there’s brick separaters
Most people buying this set aren't going to disassemble it
Instead a 4L axle take a 5L axle with bush
Isn’t there a building tips and tricks video on the official lego UA-cam for the atat for this exact thing or is it a different piece?
That was published after this I think :)
It would be worse if they used an axel without an end stop.
I do this in my MOCs all the time by accident
Meh I've been in worse situations with a technic frame
The red /green part is short enough to move the gray connector a bit -> axle can be removed.
Just like you see in the video :)
This isn’t anywhere as difficult as the trapped pins in the Sian.
I had this problem about an hour ago and I saw your video))
Another world issue solved...
Who is brave enough escalate this issue to the Emperor?
If you resort from putting the red casing around the axe (which I doubt is essential to the build or any functions), it'll be way easier to take apart, or am I missing something here?
Well, if you do that, the whole rod assembly becomes pushable, which you don't want for stability reasons.
The best way is to skip this lime connector
Lego is best used for your own designs rather than the provided one.
People take tjier lego apart??? Lol
when you have to move out from one place to another, what you do ? will you carry those huge sets in your car and hoping they will not break apart from the movement.
That's the major design flaw? How about a 1x1 in the middle of a baseplate
Thanks man 🙏🙏🔥👍
Just one second: Who has NEVER relied on super glue to permanently attach Lego pieces to each other? No problem.
Reminds me ot the 1980’s T-shirt stating “I don’t have a Drinking Problem: I drink, Get Drunk, Fall Down. No problem”
The Perfect World: booooring! Sh-t Happens!
why would you super glue lego
Its clever engineering not a design flaw imo
Necessary evil to make a set that friggen huge
Try it with the red technic pins 😂😂😂. You’ll definitely have a challenge on your hands
I posted a similar video of solving this. Great work!
I am here because i fucked up at this stage. Thanks, ill try my best.
Knife? What are your teeth for?
It’s not a big problem, but it should have come up during the quality checks of LEGO and should have been corrected.
That 5x7 rectangle won't be able to flex as much with the turntable attached to it.
But you can still detach it
if you guys think this is a hard disassembly build a Gundam lmao
I don’t really care because even though I want it really badly, I’m too broke to get it
I actually built one of the feet like that and it was terrible to undo. Ironically I also resorted to using a pocket knife to get it out lol
I built two like that :/
IMO not a big deal, like at all. Increasing complexity of sets mean some funky connections like this are to be expected…
I somewhat disagree. The whole point of LEGO is that you're able to break it and build something new, so the ease of taking builds apart is pretty integral. While the UCS AT-AT is a set unlikely to be taken apart, this still irks me because it's not consistent with the way LEGO operates.
So it's just a single, tiny piece, I thought it was impossible to remove the entire AT-AT's head or something. So I wouldn't call this a major flaw, at all. Not the first time I've seen such (similar) design either. Much ado about nothing.
Well, it seems to be the most viewed article ever on Brickset, so apparently it was interesting for a lot of people. Definitely doesn't deserve the hype though, as the solution is super simple.
Well, not really.
How about disassembling Technic Steering Wheel Hub/Portal without a knife, anyone? /s
Let's be honest whos breaking down a ucs at at
Ikr these people on tumble calling it “a major design flaw that needs to be fixed” are incredibly stupid as 0.001% of the people buying this set are going to be taking it apart
can you do it in a non bullshit mobile shorts or whatever the hell youtube calls it, its unwatchable
What is unwatchable exactly in it? A video is a video. The topic deserved 60 seconds, problem and solution presented, what difference would it make if it would be a standard horizontal UA-cam video with the same content and length?
Complaints complaints and I don't see the problem. I did the test myself with a knife. Takes 1 movement and its out enough. But like in the video don't do it with a sharp knife. Use a (like I call it) blunt potato knife. And no damage on the lego parts ;)
I suggest to watch the video again, or better the linked video in the top comment. I did not use the knife at all...
@@RacingBrick looks like you don't read my comment well. Did I say you used it? I just say if you use a knife ... Use a blunt one and no damage will be done. ☺️😁
@@kevinbussels2818 you said "like in the video don't do it with a sharp knife". For me that means a sharp knife was used in the video, but it wasn't :)
@@kevinbussels2818 but the main point is - you don't need a knife at all :)
@@RacingBrick yeah ok I now understand what you mean. To be clear I'm not pointing fingers at you 😉 you did a great job explaining that it's actually not needed. Good job , but I did not have the patience nor the good fingernails to do it as quick as you 🤪
You could just replace it with the one without he stopper
To make sure it will be really impossible to remove? :)
@@RacingBrick of course 😈 by the way I love your video’s 🙂
Honestly I don't really care about this "design flaw" since this is a UCS set meaning it will just sit on top of my table asserting dominance and let's be real here how often do you even take apart your UCS sets?
I'm not a Star Wars collector but I regularly take apart even my biggest Technic sets so it'd be a possibility :)
@@RacingBrick Understandable since I'm sure everyone take apart their sets from time-to-time if not regularly even I do it on a somewhat regular basis (mostly starfighters to improve looks or fix inaccuracies) but I'm not really that kind of person that takes apart the largest sets like UCS sets and if I do it's mostly to replace aging pieces so I just don't think this issue with the AT-AT should affect me that much if at all
Much ado about nothing.
Clever dude
Bunch of cry babies, crying. You get an AWESOME set. Just look at the opinion of most content creators out there - some have even gone as far as saying that it very well may be the best lego star wars set ever. And yet people find reasons to cry. I wont be surprised that the next century people will look back on previous generations and say "20 century - baby boomers, 21 century - baby criers".
To me this is not a problem. Some people just like to find fault in every little thing.
Are you going to review the Set?
I don't thinks so, I already have too many LEGO sets around here. There's no free space for huge Star Wars statues :)
true
I don’t really care it seems fine to men
A very fair and measured look at this problem, thanks!💜
Definition of clickbait.
To me this 'problem' was roughly on the par with removing old tiles that didn't have grooves... i.e. a bit fiddly but not a problem!
Oplhy😡😈😡😈😇
Won’t be a problem, I never plan to take it apart.
I use super glue soooooooo
*me*
Nit-picky clickbate youtuber