I have followed you for years, and no matter what I am looking for, I always know if you have a video on it, it will be the most clear and well put together. Thank you for your content Jon!
Finally somebody on UA-cam made Blum drawer boxes without those silly notches, every video I see someone do a notch I tell them this method in hopes someone will try it. I've been using Rob Cosman as a example but now I can recommend this video.
I got these massive two drawers built for kitchen cabinet. They are 1/2" ply including the bottom because of the 40"span. I opted for heavy duty bottom mount Blum slides. The instructions were ridiculously complex. I watched this video twice and now the drawer is mounted in. This is the best tutorial I found on UA-cam. Hands down.
Jon have seen other makers use this slides and to be honest they make the instalacion look complicated, now I see that is not, as always you make it all in a straight simple way, no fancy jig or guides required. Thanks a lot for sharing.
I built a dresser five years ago with these slides and it was tricky to figure it out because at the time I couldn’t find any good video and the instructions weren’t the easiest. This is a great explanation and demonstration.
Just like your drawer design and construction, your video is simple, concise, straightforward...and no heavy metal music(!)...great educational presentation
Jon...I always look forward to your videos. Am impressed by the quality of your work and appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge and advice. Thank you!
Refreshing! Fully expected to see a link below your video to the Blum drawer slides. Nice that this video was made because of your desire to use them and the uniqueness of the slides.
As always, excellent job. I wish i had watched. this video before my first experience with building cabinets ising the BluMotion slides. I would have eliminated a lot of mistakes. Thanks again, Jon.
Thank you Jon. I will watch it again, as I need practice on things like making a drawer, and making it to the correct width. I always seem to mess it up. I will re-watch the portion where you trimmed a pice of plywood right off, and I think I have to figure out why, and what it means to do so. (I just get a little bit confused). But thank you for being a patient instructor! I learn a lot from you, even though you may not realize it! Have a great weekend.
Great tutorial as usual, Jon. Wish I had seen yours first. I've got the Blum undermount jig enroute. It's pretty expensive for a small jig, and watching your video, not necessary at all. Thanks again. Mark
I work with these everyday. I always take 7/16th off from the opening to get the drawer dimension. 3/8 groove from the bottom of the drawer works just fine.
drawer width? I'm about to build a dozen, 1st time and dont want to mess them up. he never talked about drawer height either, ive heard build drawer 1" shorter then opening height, is this correct? I'm doing 21 inch drawers out of 5/8 stock
I'm about to build some drawers with undermount slides. The instructions with a lot of these slides are really sparse. I finally understand what's required. Thanks for breaking it down.
Great, Great video. I just watched to see if I should keep or return the $60 Blum jig I got for the front parts. I ended up getting so much more answered in your 1 clear cut video than 3 others I watched that you did not mention.
Putting new drawers in my kitchen. When I got the Blum glides, the instructions made this look like a very arduous task. What a lifesaver you are!! You made this so simple. Followed your method and every drawer works perfectly. They should include a link to your website for instructions. Thank you!!!
Funny enough I came here after watching Shaun's video (the one you linked) and I found your explanations more detailed and understandable. Thank you. Have to build an entire set of kitchen drawers - previous house owners just installed new drawer fronts and left 30+ y.o plywood drawers with no slides :(
Great video. I could have used this a few weeks ago. You made it look super easy. I struggled some what. I installed a set of these slides into the cabinet first. Not a great way to do it. Live and learn. Have a great weekend Jon.
thanks! not sure how to map your width comments with Blum's spec. Per spec the drawer inside width would be 42/48mm(H/F series) less than opening. You mentioned 1/2" first then a few widths at last, seems still to be total 1" always.
Nice job one the video. Well taught, and well explained. The height of the drawer, in a given opening? Is the height just made to suite your tolerance for fit, or should I deduct, a given amount, such as 1"
good question, Jon does not address this in his video. Dan from Keystone Wood Specialties says the height of the sides should be 13/16" smaller than the opening
Jon, thanks for the great video, you however didn't mention drawer height. I've heard from other videos that allowing 1" total is sufficient. ie - 5" opening means a 4" drawer box, is this correct? thanks, about to build a set for our kitchen.
Jon, You said back up the slide 1/8” if drawer fronts were on outside the cabinet. How far do you back them up if the drawer fronts are flush with the cabinet?
Thank you for making the simplest and yet the most informative video on the installation of these D. guides... I don't remember who said this but I'm sure someone knows. "If you simply can't explain it then you simply do not understand it..." thank you again...T>
Great video, as always. I used these drawer slides on a kitchen island build last year. Really liked em. Rockler sells a nifty little drilling jig to drill the mounting holes for the clips and the pins in the back.
Jon, I need your help... I made a cutting board and I need to put a finish on on... what finish would you use? I hold your opinion very highly thank you very much and I enjoy your videos
No, not unless you want to see the drawer slides. You still need a false front which fits the opening almost perfectly. Then your drawer itself is mounted the thickness of the front back so the false front ends flush with the face frame. But the drawer box is 15" then plus the thickness of your false front which will fit the opening.
If you construct your drawer boxes with the front and back between the sides (like in Jons example), you only need one measurement regardless of the thickness of the material you use. The measurement is the opening width minus 42mm (1-21/32").
Nicely done Jon & great explanation on that draw slide install! I was wondering if those slides could be used for a multiple draw set up? Thanks....... 👍👍👏👏😉😉
Different I'd say, both ways are easy with the right method, his method is close to the easiest way, undermount slides support the drawer bottom so if you want to be cheap you can use thin drawer sides, the drawer sides are just keeping the front square so technically you could make them narrow but not so much that the front isn't supported square, I did a 49" wide bank of 3 drawers with one shelf in my closet with a sheet of 3/4 and 5/8 melamine this way, the normal way requires three sheets.
@@alfredonski Yeah I get that. But why cut the rear dado in the first place? He measures the dado after cutting it, and it's top edge comes to 8 5/8" from the top of the drawer. But he could have measured one of the other 3 dadoes and then just made the same cut without ever having to cut the rear dado. It's not a big deal but I was genuinely trying to figure out if there was a reason for doing it that way.
Its funny you say that. I just realized you are right! and just yesterday I did the same exact thing for no reason. I guess once you have all the pieces next to you muscle memory kept it going. @@utubewillyman
@@alfredonski I think I figured it out. He works efficiently, like a factory. So he actually cuts his dado into a very long piece of wood, like 4 feet long, or maybe even 8 feet. Probably makes multiple long dadoed strips this way, enough to make many many drawers. Then he crosscuts all the long strips into pieces of the right dimensions. Then just before assembly, he cuts the dado off where he doesn't need the dado.
This is a good video and I like how you avoid cutting the small opening on the back of the drawer. I do, however, I think you gloss over the calculation of the width of drawer as it greatly depends on the thickness of the drawer sides.
Around the 7:23 mark, you say, "'If you're using 3/4 inch sides for your drawer, make the drawer 3/8 inch smaller than your drawer opening. If you're using 5/8 inch sides, like I did here, make your drawer 1/2 inch smaller than your drawer opening. If you're using 1/2 inch material for your sides, make the drawer 5/8 of an inch smaller than your opening." This doesn't make sense to me. The thinner the drawer sides, the -more- ago you need between the drawer and opening? Can you clue me in? (Or did you mis-speak?)
I think that has to do with the slides being based off of the inside of the drawer side. So although the dimensions are changing in regards to the outside of the drawer side, the inside stays consistent.
i think the next thing you should do to your shop would be to soundproof it so that you don't get so much echo when you talk. Otherwise your videos are awesome.
Hi Everyone, I’ll be using undermount drawer slides on the Chest of Drawers project that I’m starting next week. I thought it would be a good idea to take a minute and build my skills with this shop cabinet. I hope you found this video helpful and if you are looking for a furniture project to build, check out my website and take a look at my professional Woodworking project plans. jonpeters.com/design-plans/ Have a great day, Jon
how to calculate minimum interior depth the cabinet has to be? you did not cover this off. essential for one to get the right length of drawer slides in the first place. Describe for the overlay door please, you said build drawer length 15 inches total length for 15" slides. That has the drawer front even with the leading edge of the case, from there you put an overlay door on to cover the case edges, ie. door is not inset into the case, it is OVERLAY on to the case leading edges. So min interior cab depth for 15" slides is about 15 1/2" to give 1/2" space at the back between the end of the slide and the cabinet back?
Check out the Chest of Drawers project that I was practicing for. ua-cam.com/video/nIq7IIWKIE0/v-deo.html
I have followed you for years, and no matter what I am looking for, I always know if you have a video on it, it will be the most clear and well put together.
Thank you for your content Jon!
Thank you! I really appreciate it!
Finally somebody on UA-cam made Blum drawer boxes without those silly notches, every video I see someone do a notch I tell them this method in hopes someone will try it. I've been using Rob Cosman as a example but now I can recommend this video.
Thanks!
That’s the way I make my drawers but I had no clue about under mount installation,This good master explained so easy to understand,
Thanks master!
You got the explanation right?
I got these massive two drawers built for kitchen cabinet. They are 1/2" ply including the bottom because of the 40"span. I opted for heavy duty bottom mount Blum slides. The instructions were ridiculously complex. I watched this video twice and now the drawer is mounted in. This is the best tutorial I found on UA-cam. Hands down.
Fantastic! I’m glad to hear it thanks 👍
Jon have seen other makers use this slides and to be honest they make the instalacion look complicated, now I see that is not, as always you make it all in a straight simple way, no fancy jig or guides required. Thanks a lot for sharing.
Thank you! That’s really nice to hear.
Excellent video once again. Thank you!
I built a dresser five years ago with these slides and it was tricky to figure it out because at the time I couldn’t find any good video and the instructions weren’t the easiest. This is a great explanation and demonstration.
Everyone says these are very difficult to install but you made it look pretty easy.
Just like your drawer design and construction, your video is simple, concise, straightforward...and no heavy metal music(!)...great educational presentation
Thank you for making this video! This is by far the simplest and approachable method for these drawer slides I've come across!
Thanks for making this video and going over the dimensions. I’ve been putting it off because I had a hard time following the instructions.
I just watched a 25 min video on how to do what you explained in 8 minutes. The first video was full of math, yours was full of practicality. Thanks
Great to hear! Thanks for the comment
Jon...I always look forward to your videos. Am impressed by the quality of your work and appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge and advice. Thank you!
Good explanation you did not skip the steps like others. Very nice Thanks
best way of doing this i've seen yet. thank you for being creative enough to explain this method that truly simplifies the process.
Refreshing! Fully expected to see a link below your video to the Blum drawer slides. Nice that this video was made because of your desire to use them and the uniqueness of the slides.
First...that's a first. Explained very well, Jon. Never used these slides before but will give them a try.
Great video, clear and to the point. I appreciated the detail measurements as well
By far the best video on this topic.
As always, excellent job. I wish i had watched. this video before my first experience with building cabinets ising the BluMotion slides. I would have eliminated a lot of mistakes. Thanks again, Jon.
Thank you Jon. I will watch it again, as I need practice on things like making a drawer, and making it to the correct width. I always seem to mess it up. I will re-watch the portion where you trimmed a pice of plywood right off, and I think I have to figure out why, and what it means to do so. (I just get a little bit confused). But thank you for being a patient instructor! I learn a lot from you, even though you may not realize it! Have a great weekend.
Thanks Rick! That’s so great to hear. Have a great weekend too.
This was the best video for the slides. Easiest to follow 😊
Glad to hear it, thanks for the comment!
Thank you dude. I appreciate you sharing your skills.
Mike Farrington also has great videos where he shows installing a lot of Blum drawer slides and also their hinges. Great tutorial Jon!
Great tutorial as usual, Jon. Wish I had seen yours first. I've got the Blum undermount jig enroute. It's pretty expensive for a small jig, and watching your video, not necessary at all. Thanks again. Mark
Thanks Mark, glad to hear it
Excellent instructions Jon. Thanks for the education. This made my installation much easier
Fantastic! Glad to hear it 👍
I work with these everyday. I always take 7/16th off from the opening to get the drawer dimension. 3/8 groove from the bottom of the drawer works just fine.
drawer width? I'm about to build a dozen, 1st time and dont want to mess them up. he never talked about drawer height either, ive heard build drawer 1" shorter then opening height, is this correct? I'm doing 21 inch drawers out of 5/8 stock
I'm about to build some drawers with undermount slides. The instructions with a lot of these slides are really sparse. I finally understand what's required. Thanks for breaking it down.
Awesome instruction very concise well presented. Doing this today 8 drawer cabinet for a retail space. Thank you!
Thanks Jim, glad the video was helpful 👍
Great video I've watched a few
Great video, very helpful! Thank you
Great, Great video. I just watched to see if I should keep or return the $60 Blum jig I got for the front parts. I ended up getting so much more answered in your 1 clear cut video than 3 others I watched that you did not mention.
Thanks! Glad to hear it. I’m happy the video was helpful.
Excellent video
Putting new drawers in my kitchen. When I got the Blum glides, the instructions made this look like a very arduous task. What a lifesaver you are!! You made this so simple. Followed your method and every drawer works perfectly. They should include a link to your website for instructions. Thank you!!!
They are neat slides.
There’s more complexity in these drawer slides than a space mission.
I wish Jon had made this video before I used these slides for some nightstands my son and I made.
Perfect work.
Excellent video. Cheers!
Perfect. Now I might give those slides a try on the next project.
Funny enough I came here after watching Shaun's video (the one you linked) and I found your explanations more detailed and understandable. Thank you. Have to build an entire set of kitchen drawers - previous house owners just installed new drawer fronts and left 30+ y.o plywood drawers with no slides :(
Real good video.
You make this look so easy! Fantastic job
This is so helpful!
Glad to hear it thanks!
Perfect timing on this one. 👍
You should use pan head screws to attach the clips vs the same ones to mount the hinges
All good info thank you!
Great video. I could have used this a few weeks ago. You made it look super easy. I struggled some what. I installed a set of these slides into the cabinet first. Not a great way to do it. Live and learn. Have a great weekend Jon.
excellent,and very well explained.thx.
Thank you!!!!
Great Job!!! Thank You For The Info!!! 👍😎😃
Super clear Jon - really good. Will you also be doing a video on the Chest of Drawers?
This is helpful for not using expensive jig because i'm only building one drawer.
Great video! I am wondering how deep can i make the drawer? I am trying to maximize the depth of the drawer. Thank you.
Great Job on the video. Any chance you have installed the BLUM Movento slides in an inset application. With the optional clips
Omg…thank you so much😊
thanks! not sure how to map your width comments with Blum's spec. Per spec the drawer inside width would be 42/48mm(H/F series) less than opening. You mentioned 1/2" first then a few widths at last, seems still to be total 1" always.
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Nice job one the video. Well taught, and well explained. The height of the drawer, in a given opening? Is the height just made to suite your tolerance for fit, or should I deduct, a given amount, such as 1"
good question, Jon does not address this in his video. Dan from Keystone Wood Specialties says the height of the sides should be 13/16" smaller than the opening
Hi can I replace my existing side track to under mount type? Tks
Jon! How far from the inside back of the cabinet has the end of the undermount slide to be?
Jon, thanks for the great video, you however didn't mention drawer height. I've heard from other videos that allowing 1" total is sufficient. ie - 5" opening means a 4" drawer box, is this correct? thanks, about to build a set for our kitchen.
Jon,
You said back up the slide 1/8” if drawer fronts were on outside the cabinet. How far do you back them up if the drawer fronts are flush with the cabinet?
Thank you for making the simplest and yet the most informative video on the installation of these D. guides... I don't remember who said this but I'm sure someone knows. "If you simply can't explain it then you simply do not understand it..." thank you again...T>
Great video, as always. I used these drawer slides on a kitchen island build last year. Really liked em. Rockler sells a nifty little drilling jig to drill the mounting holes for the clips and the pins in the back.
Jon, I need your help... I made a cutting board and I need to put a finish on on... what finish would you use? I hold your opinion very highly thank you very much and I enjoy your videos
Hi Luke, I always use board wax from Socal Woodshop ... you can find them on Instagram
While making inset drawers and using 15 inch undermount drawer slides, does the entire drawer including the drawer front need to equal 15 inches?
No, not unless you want to see the drawer slides. You still need a false front which fits the opening almost perfectly. Then your drawer itself is mounted the thickness of the front back so the false front ends flush with the face frame. But the drawer box is 15" then plus the thickness of your false front which will fit the opening.
Hi Jon. Would using pocket holes for creating the drawers be stronger?
Maybe but I’ve never had one of these drawers fail so either way works
@@JonPetersArtHome Thanks
Excellent. However, what do you do with drawer width and nominal plywood? Since plywood is never 1/2, 5/8, or 3/4.
If you construct your drawer boxes with the front and back between the sides (like in Jons example), you only need one measurement regardless of the thickness of the material you use. The measurement is the opening width minus 42mm (1-21/32").
@@tylernettestad then why did he say 1/2" ?
Where did you buy the drawer slides?
I had the same question, but found them at Rockler.
Nicely done Jon & great explanation on that draw slide install! I was wondering if those slides could be used for a multiple draw set up? Thanks....... 👍👍👏👏😉😉
Hi how to easy cutting for cabinet doors from Euro hinges
Are undermount slides easier to install than side mount slides? Or just different?
Different I'd say, both ways are easy with the right method, his method is close to the easiest way, undermount slides support the drawer bottom so if you want to be cheap you can use thin drawer sides, the drawer sides are just keeping the front square so technically you could make them narrow but not so much that the front isn't supported square, I did a 49" wide bank of 3 drawers with one shelf in my closet with a sheet of 3/4 and 5/8 melamine this way, the normal way requires three sheets.
What a system indeed!
That seems like a lot of extra work to install. What is the advantage of these over a normal drawer slide?
Estetics - you dont see the hardware when opened
I'm still confused about why he made a dado and then cut off that dado.
He only cut the dado on the rear part of the drawer. He does this as opposed to cutting the notches.
@@alfredonski Yeah I get that. But why cut the rear dado in the first place? He measures the dado after cutting it, and it's top edge comes to 8 5/8" from the top of the drawer. But he could have measured one of the other 3 dadoes and then just made the same cut without ever having to cut the rear dado. It's not a big deal but I was genuinely trying to figure out if there was a reason for doing it that way.
Its funny you say that. I just realized you are right! and just yesterday I did the same exact thing for no reason. I guess once you have all the pieces next to you muscle memory kept it going. @@utubewillyman
@@alfredonski I think I figured it out. He works efficiently, like a factory. So he actually cuts his dado into a very long piece of wood, like 4 feet long, or maybe even 8 feet. Probably makes multiple long dadoed strips this way, enough to make many many drawers. Then he crosscuts all the long strips into pieces of the right dimensions. Then just before assembly, he cuts the dado off where he doesn't need the dado.
Wow thats a genius Idea, I might even do that. I have 10 drawers to build and want to be as efficient as possible.
@@utubewillyman
This is a good video and I like how you avoid cutting the small opening on the back of the drawer. I do, however, I think you gloss over the calculation of the width of drawer as it greatly depends on the thickness of the drawer sides.
Can anyone get a hold of Blum drawer slides? I've been waiting six months for my order to be fulfilled.
Around the 7:23 mark, you say, "'If you're using 3/4 inch sides for your drawer, make the drawer 3/8 inch smaller than your drawer opening. If you're using 5/8 inch sides, like I did here, make your drawer 1/2 inch smaller than your drawer opening. If you're using 1/2 inch material for your sides, make the drawer 5/8 of an inch smaller than your opening." This doesn't make sense to me. The thinner the drawer sides, the -more- ago you need between the drawer and opening? Can you clue me in? (Or did you mis-speak?)
I think that has to do with the slides being based off of the inside of the drawer side. So although the dimensions are changing in regards to the outside of the drawer side, the inside stays consistent.
Longview Woodworking? Just curious of the name!?!
LongJon was taken.
Mike Farrington also uses blum drawer slides. Check him out.
yes I like Mike
i think the next thing you should do to your shop would be to soundproof it so that you don't get so much echo when you talk. Otherwise your videos are awesome.
Thank you! And yes I agree... putting it on the list.
I miss Shaun Boyd’s channel.
Hi Everyone, I’ll be using undermount drawer slides on the Chest of Drawers project that I’m starting next week. I thought it would be a good idea to take a minute and build my skills with this shop cabinet. I hope you found this video helpful and if you are looking for a furniture project to build, check out my website and take a look at my professional Woodworking project plans. jonpeters.com/design-plans/ Have a great day, Jon
Outstanding craftsmanship Sir, 👍😁🔨 🇺🇸 🇮🇪
how to calculate minimum interior depth the cabinet has to be? you did not cover this off. essential for one to get the right length of drawer slides in the first place. Describe for the overlay door please, you said build drawer length 15 inches total length for 15" slides. That has the drawer front even with the leading edge of the case, from there you put an overlay door on to cover the case edges, ie. door is not inset into the case, it is OVERLAY on to the case leading edges. So min interior cab depth for 15" slides is about 15 1/2" to give 1/2" space at the back between the end of the slide and the cabinet back?
One tip, don't use those clips, use the adjustable ones, I don't use the Blum usually I like the grass dynapro better than the tandem
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Thank you!