7 Villains Who Cheated You Out of a Boss Fight
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- You spent the whole game looking forward to a showdown with these villains, then never got to fight them fair and square! C'mon game, where's our boss battle?!
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After a whole game looking forward to a showdown, these villains managed to escape a proper boss fight! C'mon game, we need closure! Can you think of any more examples? Shout in the comments if so, and enjoy!
Hey, what do you mean don't trust shadowy disembodied voices that tell you to go and kill things? They never specified to not speak to them exactly and they sound so inviting to become.....one of us....one of us......one of us...
Lucien from Fable 2. He kills your sister, kills your dog, and is just an asshole all around. And what do you get for his "fight"? YOU JUST SHOOT HIM ONCE! HE DOESN'T EVEN FIGHT BACK! YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SHOOT HIM!
7 video game characters who are famous because of popularity and looks.
Mettaton NEO. Though I have to admit, he tried his best to give you a fight...
The Saboteur. You've been hunting this prick the entire game bc he killed your best friend. Climb to the top of the Eiffel Tower with NO NAZI RESISTANCE WHATSOEVER, then there's a cutscene conversation between you and Dierker....leading to shooting him once with a pistol, killing him instantly, and the game ends.
I think it’s funny that “Good” Shepard manages to talk two of the main series’ villains into shooting themselves.
at least u get to fight Kamek in Yoshi's new island Mario party ds & Mario party 10
Guess they're not a paragon of talking people down
...I'll see myself out
Me being a paranade shep, still getting to shoot the illusive man in cutscene: well at least Shepard got to shoot him.... I wanted to have a boss fight tho
You guys seem to forget that Dormin kept their word to the letter. Once he slayed all collossi and Dormin awakened, his dead love was indeed brought back to life. And Dormin did warn him a great sacrifice would be required. Dormin's not the bad guy.
To be fair, Dormin made it pretty clear that he was a bad guy from the get-go, but he also kept his word and brought the girl back.
Alice Madness Returns: Literally every antagonistic boss-like entity save for the final boss.
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion: Mehrunes Dagon
And Hermaeus Mora from the dragonborn dlc of Skyrim,his voice is annoying,his appearence is disgusting,he killed the Skall shaman just for fun,he gave Mirrak his powers,and he is the only character who getted happy ending in the dlc storyline
@@jotarokujo4727 I can only hope for the dragonborn to ascend to godhood in some form and kick all the daedric princes ass. But not sheogorath, he's a good boy.
And Sanguin and Azura they are good too,And Hircine Because he is cool
There's not a whole lot of epic boss material in Madness Returns compared to the original American McGee's Alice.
And in the timeline, Martin gets all the credit in the oblivion crisis. Leading the assault on oblivion outside Bruma AND swooping in as an energy dragon to kill Mehrunes just as you wabbajack Dagon into a bunny
Well, baby mario's first memory definitely explains his career in plumbing...
Oh nooooo!
Even explains the adult videos-
Oh, wait...
scorpiñator do you think he holds a grudge towards yoshi for that incident?
Fuuuucking hell 😂😂😂😭😭😭
'Don't trust disembodied voices' - I knew EGX 2018 wasn't really closing! The Oxventure could've gone on for so much longer
Dormin spelled backwards is Nimrod. Which is exactly what one felt like at the end of Shadow on their first playthrough 🤪
Nimrod In mythology was an expert hunter/tracker. Idk why it became a name for a dummy/schlep lol
@@jerryonlychild7003 Blame Bugs Bunny
TheFacelessGod It’s because Bugs Bunny called Elmer Fudd “Nimrod” jokingly to call attention to his lackluster hunting skills in comparison to the biblical hunter.
But because Elmer Fudd is very stupid, people figured it was some sort of insult to his intelligence.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
It’s like if “Einstein” became known as shorthand for “dumbass”, instead of being an ironic thing to call a dumbass.
@@enlongjones2394 Not even. At least in that case the insult’s intention was to criticize the target’s intelligence from the beginning.
Star fox adventures: You literally get a fight with the villian, General Scales, but once you throw an attack at him, the fight's ending cutscene plays.
Now that's denial.
N.J
That pissed me off so much as a kid
That pissed me off so much as a kid
That annoyed me off so much as a kid
Poor Maleficent. She still can't get over the fact that a bunch of weird anime guys took the Top Villain job from her.
The Mistress Of All Evil is kind of off her game.
@@KeybladeMasterAndy So, basically...Maleficent can't handle her lack of a monopoly, and keeps trying to be villainous enough to reclaim it?
@@timothymclean even going so far as to help the heroes. :p
@Jack Frost Wait, he’s not a dog?
@@SharkQuake
Nope. He's a cat.
Luke: "I'm not even a villain..."
Me: "I think the cows and deer from Just Cause 4 would beg to differ."
Science is evil then? Or the scientists are to do evil science ... or maybe the world is evil becouse it allows the evil science to exist??? Are we all secretly evil????
its only evil if it opposes your beliefs my dear children, who are most likely 70 years old................. .-. i still make my point.
The most evil villain who robbed us of a proper boss battle - EA in Mass Effect 3.
what a shame 9:14
What about General Scales in Star Fox Adventures? We got cheated out of fighting him by a surprise appearance by Andross!
I can't believe I forgot about how I got cheated out of getting him back for all the bullshit he put me through at the Cloudrunner Fortress.
Yoo I was looking forward to fighting that mf ever since he was manhandling Crystal
Worse is that the game goes into combat mode with him, with him looming around you not attacking, but as soon as you hit A to take out your staff, it cuts to the cutscene of Andross telling Scales to bugger off! It teases you into thinking you're gonna fight him SO MUCH.
the only thing i absolutely hate about adventures.... well, that and not getting to bring my blaster !
10 spinoffs we wish we could actually play with any main character
Well if you were about to be beaten by a game protagonist you would try to avoid it too.
Or better yet, just don't mess with the protagonist in the first place
Kill their families, take their land and put them to work.. Wait, not that house, that boy.. he is going to grow up to be a protagonist.
@@insaincaldo I wanna see a game thats actually like that. Or a book even.
@@jaredcrabb Try to be accidentally called to action, while the villain absolutely knows not to target you for all his cruelty on the people.
"i am the great mighty poo... and i'm going to throw my sh*t at you"
what where they smoking when they thought this up!?
I mean it is a game for adults so
Hmm 🤔, I wonder what California game designers creating a mature cartoon video game smoke...? Probably wood chips and Pepto Bismol
Some really good sh*t
Probably everything
Cocaine. Also, they didn't smoke it.
"Your horse is alive!"
But it's leg is broken, we gotta put it down.
Also, YOU are the Shadow of the Colossus.
I mean that's how it works in the real world 9/10.
Depending on how bad the break it of course. A small one can be fixed but obviously larger breaks that make the horse completely unable to walk (like in the game) would be put down.
I always hated that
I think of General Scales from Star Fox adventures. Near the end of the game it's finally the two of you alone, face to face in a final showdown. The fight starts (it actually really starts) and...at the first attack you throw at him a cutscene breaks in, in wich "some spirit" gets rid of him for you. It turns out at the end that it wasn't exactly to help or save you but still.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought of that. There is no way around it- we all got fucking JIPPED at that part.
I got through the entire game just dying to take that turkey out; then I finally get to the good part and the bastard keels over and croaks. Jipped indeed. Downright robbed if you ask me.
I agree
Well, at least it didn't go _straight_ to the cutscene, right? . . . um, right?
@@Stratelier for some reason I feel that only makes it worse.
Boss fight against Evil Ellen is incredibly easy. Luke just has to move all copies of Kingdom of Amalur to the top shelf until she agrees to be good.
brokentuskx What about her “Grease Trap”
Ellen's infamous meat grinder
Corazon has the grease, Marowen has the grinder
Micah Newby Well her lackey Corazon had to provide something to the Meat Grinder,
Or just capture a spider and put it within 50 feet of her.
Dr. Quack for Yooka-Laylee! All of the encounters with him is a quiz but not a boss fight, and he is the one that stole the book.
I don’t think Dormin overtook them, there’s so much light at the end and all these frail creatures coming to look at the baby and not being at all scared of them there doesn’t seem to be any indication that there is some evil at work. Plus you hear Emon mention a chance for atonement implying that the horned boy, (Wander reborn) is getting a second chance to take a nobler path with Mono guiding him now as a surrogate mother.
Anyone else getting Jane vibes from Maleficent?
Set the lesser villains up to fall so they'll owe you for the resurrection, use them to train the heroes, set the heroes up to take down your main rival so you can have his castle, ...
I don't know whether getting Jane that costume would be a wonderful idea or a terrible one, but either way it has to be done.
that makes too much sense, she was thinking a few steps ahead and knew that if she took sora down then and there she would have to deal with the organization who had the overall upperhand on her, so she swallowed her prided and took a more reserved route making safer plans while planning to down her biggest threat
Hey at least Nier Automata gave us a boss fight we never knew we wanted: a boss fight with both the Sony CEO and Square Enix CEO while they shout at you and fire projectiles in the shape of their faces. No, I never thought of fighting either CEOs but afterwards I’m glad I got the chance.
What?....ur kidding right?
Sandeep Krishnan haha right? It’s true. The DLC lets us fight Sony President and Square Enix president. Literally the hardest fight in the game.
You fight the CEO of Platinum and Square, not Sony.
Jeff Sousa oops your right.
There's a list for Outside Xtra: Boss fights we didn't know we wanted.
March Hare and Dormouse in Alice Madness Returns.
They show up in a giant robot only for it to immediately fall apart after a huge teapot falls on it
And then they did it again with the Carpenter and Walrus, and then again with the Wasp Empress (who still has an Extra Content entry but never appears in-game), and then AGAIN with the Executioner. I love Alice: Madness Returns but the way it kept slithering itself out of giving you a boss fight was frustrating as hell.
Spyro 1? The boss runs from you the whole time and the only real blow is a cutscene of him getting hit in the head with his own hammer.
Regarding the Illusive Man: According to the art book that came with the ME3 special edition, TIM was actually originally drafted to be a boss fight wherein Shepard could get through to/shoot him and, after TIM's death would sort of explode into this behemoth hybrid of Reaper tech and flesh. The whole thing was scrapped for being too much of a copy of the fight with Saren in ME1, but honestly I think I would've appreciated the boss fight all the same.
Great, now I always think of him as Tim x.x
@@Schilani Maybe this will help: 🎶TIM he is an average kid that no one understands. Turian, Human, & Asari always giving him demands...🎶 ;)
I mean... I never wanted to fight Dormin, I always wanted to fight lord emond.
Dormin was not good or evil, Lord emond imprisoned Dormin inside the 16 collosi because in his opinion, magic is evil.
Dormin also tells you you should not follow this quest, he warns you of the sacrifice.
So the true bad guy is lord emond for not only imprisoning a god because he had powerful. But because he is the one who set Mona to die, and is the one trying to stop wander from saving her and the imprisoned god.
Interesting takeaway. Can't say I've ever heard that one before. I got more of a "there are no good guys" vibe out of it. Like everyone involved was an asshole.
Agree pal
Wait, a xenomorph got loose when were working in retail?
Sshhh...
Happens every time I go into a retail store.
@nightlight_dot_exe That's hardly fair.
No xenomorph has ever shamed me for helping customer that was in line before her.
Sound right for retail
With all the due respect, Luke and Ellen, I was sure of the lack of Mehrunes Dagon from The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and I was not disappointed with it.
Hm, you could poke his toe if you wanted, so technically...
Yeah, winning a fight by going through a door was slightly disappointing.
i liked using console commands to "kill" him which actually results in him just melting in weird ways since it wasnt supossed to happen XD
Oh right! I forgot about him. Hell, Martin's the main character of Oblivion, not the player.
@@SheosMan117 Yeah, you're technically the most badass sidekick ever.
Still feel the pain of that one. It took ages for me to finally say goodbye to side quests and do that final showdown for the future of Tamriel and... BOOM, Martin goes dragon and it's bye bye Dagon. Great victory, especially if you take into account, that he was the LAST LIVING son of the emperor. Great job, lets have Cyrodiil descend into chaos.
But really, I wish they would have at least given us a bit of the big battle, before Martin does his thing. Like, he needs time to prepare, right? Maybe at least give us a weapon that may not kill a Daedric prince, but will give him indigestion? Anything? Really anything would have done at that point. "sad Oblivion noises"
EDIT: ESO finally gave me the chance to help kick Dagon's ass! YAY! No matter all the haters, I'll always love the game for this
Nakiyama from borderlands 2. The dude falls down a staircase to his his death as he's about to make his final stand.
I was gonna say
I always thought he should of been left crippled with 1 hp so you could shoot him once and get a little more satisfaction from the dlc.
Even if he's given chance to have boss battle with player, he seems to be really weak. He's the brainy schemer type. He can only relies on his experiments and minions to fight you (And they're much more challenging anyway).
Despite that, I think his boss battle could be more awesome if he actively joins jackenstein to battle player, and calls other experiments and minions to join the party. That would be more satisfying than the disappointing joke ending we got in hammerlock dlc.
And he's a semi important plot character in Borderlands TPS & Tales from the Borderlands, so he really deserves a proper boss battle.
-dumb ways to die....... so many dumb ways to die-
I still can't get over the fight, or lack thereof, against Professor Nakayama at the end of the "Hammerlocks's Big Game Hunt" DLC for "Borderlands 2". Not at all an epic encounter, but still a memorable one.
We're just going to forget about Fable 2? This was the first one that came to mind for me.
Tek Rx
I mean, you _do_ get to shoot him once. It’s anticlimactic as hell, sure, but it’s not like you don’t get to hit him at all.
Unless you listen to his speech and the he gets shot by a bored party member.
What about General Scales from Starfox Adventures? He's attacking and enslaving the dinosaur tribes all game, tries to kill Krystal, and, when you confront him the first time, Fox just gets captured. And then when you eventually get to the final confrontation, it gears up for a big fight. But as soon as you draw your weapon? Andross interrupts the fight and we don't even see Scales for the remainder of the game as he's... uhhh... defeated off-screen by his minions, I guess? One has his belt at the end, but that's all the hint we get.
For all its controversy, SFA was one of Rare's two last great games.
For one, I particularly loved the layering method they used for Fox's fur.
Can certainly agree. Outside of the stuff after the point of no return, I really did enjoy SFA myself despite the other problems it had.
destiny 2:forsaken entire marketing behind the DLC is about killing uldren and his barons, avenging your favourite robotic buddy. at the end of the DLC uldren gets eaten by a giant meatball straight out of mario batali's nightmares and once you kill that meatball he gets killed in a cutscene and your not even the one who pulls the trigger!
Im pretty sure you both pull the trigger as both gun sounds go off you really really easy to hear with headphones on
This description :DDDDD just perfect.
Old Xehanort in Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance. Sure, you fight his younger self, his Heartless form of Ansem, and his Nobody form of Xemnas, but never the guy who came up with the whole plan in the first place.
Also, even though you fight him in Kingdom Hearts III, you still don’t fight Maleficent.
Hey man.
She's gotta get that box.
They made her a boss 4 times already and we've seen pretty much all she has to offer, why would you want another one?
Chaos and Shadow in Sonic Forces
Several words. Solas that trator elf bastard. The villan all along. And my DA bestie
That end quest took basicly all my main teammates from me
@@qwertyduckblank8278 and then SUPPRISE! solas is the ultra trator!
So glad I pretty much hated Solas from the start, felt nothing about his betrayal other than "so this means I might get the chance to smack him again later on?"
Pretty sure he's being set up as the villain for the next DA game
forgottenfamily might also see the Qunari again, they're another group I'm hoping I can smack about again like I did the Templars and the chantry in general. Seriously they've got to be one of the most repulsive civilisations within the DA universe.
You could argue that the Game Master Johnny Chiodini is the ultimate villain cheating you out of a boss fight...
Well, they kind of cheated thmselves of those...
If that's the case, this means only one thing....
*The game was rigged from the start.*
I think it's fairer to say we usually cheat Johnny out of *his* carefully-planned boss fights
@@outsidextra DUN DUN DUN!
@@IamaPERSON how could it have been rigged?
I mean Andy is COMPLETELY IMPARTIAL.
I think my favorite thing about this is that; when you give a "spoiler warning" on a list where you're told you don't get to fight the final boss in any given game..... is there really a need for the warning? The spoiler comes with it.
19:55 at least oogie boogie's boss battle isn't as hard/annoying as lets say ursula or jafar
Their kh2 boss rights were baaaaaaad
@@DeathGodRiku Excuse me, what? The KH2 boss fights were by far some of the best of the series. A lot of the ones in the first one were just annoying by comparison.
He ruined my life, I hunted him down, he kills my dog, and I can't even have retribution for any of it! Fable II is too cruel...
Not completely true, you can revive your dog in Knothole Glade using Cheet-ur's Crypt.
@@IamaPERSON True, but that doesn't take away from him having been killed in the first place.
@@rahpahgah that's also true.
And let's not forget, if you don't shoot him fast enough Reaver does it for you.
I mean.
Not that anyone waited that long to shoot him.
@@coffeepoweredkatie6290 not the first time at least
>"Kingdom Hearts II"
>Shows clip from RE:Coded
We do not speak of RE:Coded.
@@SomewhatSlightlyBored ...I liked Re:coded.
Re:coded was my first kh game lmao. I actually enjoyed it, but I will never be able to go back to it.
>Memearrowing on UA-cam
Yeah, glad I wasn't going crazy and it wasn't actually a clip from 2.
What about Kefka killing Gestahl in Final Fantasy 6? Sure, Kefka was a memorable villain but I'd have at least liked to have one kerfuffle with the Emperor at some point in the game before he was punted to his doom.
Yeah, Dormin is not the bad guy in Shadow of the Collosus, its actually the humans, the story admit-tingly is up to interpretation but if you analyse the dialogue and scenes from the beginning and end of the game, you will learn the MC's GF was sacrificed by the elder(who ordered MC's death) out of paranoia as she may be the catalyst for Dormin's Resurrection via a prophecy and ... she was but only because MC was against this sacrifice and wanted her back
So if anything, the story is contrasts more about human ambition and greed than a supernatural force which did not lie about its intentions. Also rather look at the original cut-scenes as the remaster removes some of the facial expressions during cut-scenes that does add to the atmosphere and experience
Isnt Dormin still an evil god?
@@phantomnite Not really. Define how Dormin is evil? To whom are his actions detrimental to that describes it as evil? Cause you got to remember morality is largely subjective.
In this context, Dormin is more in the grey area. He gave the MC a choice. He can accept the situation that his gf is dead and avoid a disaster or attempt to resurrect her after she was killed by other people and provoke a disaster. Bear in mind, that the player character is going around killing otherwise non-violent collisi. So, again, the focus is more on how human ambition can provoke evil. With Dormin being Chekov's gun.
@@sekomanematjila1910 maybe, I thought it was said he was evil
Off the top of my head, I can think of some villains who left me feeling really cheated after they turned out to never be bosses:
- Harbinger (Mass Effect 3)
- General Scales (Starfox Adventures)
- Dias and Selvan (Radiant Historia)
- Mull (Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana)
- Mars (Tales of Phantasia)
I considered some other guys as well (like Alex from Golden Sun), but these were the only bosses off the top of my head that I remember leaving me actually PISSED because I was cheated out of a boss fight with them.
General Scales was the most aggravating one 😈😈😈😈
No More Heroes & No More Heroes 2. Whenever Henry is involved, Travis is almost certainly denied a kill.
Except for that time when he got Han Solo'd, and when he wanted nothing to do with having to fight a giant parade float.
Fact. Mass Effect 3 had a cut boss fight with The Illusive Man turn Reaper.
How I dealt with Maleficent in Dragon form?
HIDE LIKE A TRUE HERO.
let's just hop up on these vines and summon every ranged summon possible and spam fira or whatever it was at this point
Wait you didn’t fight her head on in the first game? She wasn’t that hard the ice titan was harder.
How I fought Maleficent: Stop and gravity.
Tinkerbell saved my ass
Arripegio from sly 2. The tiny, genius mastermind of the claww gang, I thought for sure I would end up fighting him in the end, but instead, we got clockwerk. Again.
Nyla was still worth it.
Orianna from the Witcher 3 expansion "Blood and Wine." Sure, CD Projekt Red released a beautiful cinematic where Geralt catches up with her, but, after watching Orianna drink the blood of an orphan under her "care" while singing a really, bloody creepy lullaby, I really wanted to fight that fight personally.
Every single boss fight (save one) in Alice: Madness Returns.
mondenkindqueen
I do like that final boss fight, especially the fact that afterwards,
* spoilers *
you get to push that stupid “doctor” right in front of a train!
admittedly, after spending so much time fleeing the Executioner, turning giant and crushing it underfoot felt appropriate. still, more than one boss fight might've been nice.
"He's right there in the sky!"
*_ANTI-AIRCRAFT WEAPONRY ENGAGED_*
That panther king's reasoning always bothered me. Just turn the desk around.
I mean that was kind of the joke, the absurdity of it all
@@my2one You have opera singing poop and copyright infringing alien reference. It he didnt get it from that he took the game way too seriously.
@Zachary Erickson Don't be daft, clearly only a red squeal can fit the gap and balance the table properly.
Or he could get his professor to use some of the duct tape he keeps banging on about to fix the fucking table leg. That or superglue, which lasts longer than duct tape.
Im assuming the professor somehow convinced him that the squirrel was the only way.
I love this channel more than playstation access and that's comings from a die hard playstation fan. Thanks for including games from all consoles 🙏
Same here (except for that diehard part). I think a huge factor is how Playstation Access is an official Sony channel where OX is not.
Also, PA has a different personality dynamic since it's centered around a single character (Rob); whether or not you _like_ his persona has a huge impact on your overall view of the channel. In contrast, OX episodes are distributed more evenly around a _team_ of 4+ hosts, which not only adds instant variety but also allows them to interact and bounce off each other in entertaining ways.
Sergio Roche Lol I own a PS4 and I too prefer OX.
4+??? More like 5 with out the + (James had some videoson the main channel ones but that was year ago, you could also count guest appearances on livestreams but maybe lets leave that alone for now :)).
BTW im a PC player that never owned a console (after atari 2600 that is :)) and i still like both channels (three if you count Mike as a additional Channel hehe).
Yeah, I can't remember just how many of them either. Still, whether you like PA is hugely influenced by whether you like seeing Rob, Rob, and more Rob.
An Honorable mention in my opinion is silver sable in the new Spider-Man game. Every cutscene it looked like they were about to fight but it always seemed like she won the mini clash each time. I feel like they had to give us one with all that hype, maybe in the silver lining DLC they’ll give us it
Number1
Should be general scales starfox adventures
That was such bull. I mean an entire game wanting to kick his ass then they switch him out for someone who if this is your first star fox game you have no clue who he is.
Songbird in Bioshock Infinite was the biggest teaser
I cannot tell you how happy I am to finally see Yakuza show up on one of these lists. Listening to the pronunciations of the names was its own boss fight, though.
Vendra Progg from Ratchet & Clank: Into The Nexus. We got a glimpse of her epic gravity controlling powers in the tutorial level, she killed Cronk and Zepher, and yet instead of getting an epic boss fight against her... we got to fight a giant-flying-worm-crab-energy-cyclop-thing.
Honestly, I never thought I was going to fight Dormin when I first played Shadow of the Colossus
And is he really the villain? That priest guy seems more villainous, and we have no idea what is really on in this game.
Skeletor? Games your right dormin was a good guy in the beginning but he was deemed the evil because of his horns like really that your excuse to call someone evil just because they have horns?
I can't believe you made a video with this title and didn't even mention Halo 3 and 4 at all, because when I read it, the FIRST thing that came to my mind was that series.
The Prophet has been sicking alien wars on us and killed a major character, and just gets killed in a cutscene. And with the Didact, we didn't have even have the luxury of seeing a cutscene where we beat him in a shootout or fistfight. He just kind of gets defeated- -by Cortana of all people! Damn it Cortana, you kill stealer!
And so, I respectfully demand that you add this missing entry to the Commenter Edition of this video.
Halo series: Prophet of Mercy, Prophet of Truth, Gravemind, Ripa Moramee, Atriox, Locke, the two banshees that killed Foehammer
I love Yoshi's face on being shat out
"...Oh god is THIS what I've been putting all those poor monsters through!?"
In fairness, the monsters deserved it. They were aiding the villains. Yoshi was always willing to help the heroes and they abandon him whenever convenient.
Pete: What will we be doing this time Maleficent?
Maleficent: Absolutely nothing.
I legitimately spent the rest of Uncharted 2 seething that I could never punch Flynn. He nearly killed Elena, got Nate in jail and I was looking forward punching his stupid face. Gr.
You guys forgot about GENERAL SCALES from Starfox Adventures. I was ready to bash him in the head, but noooooo... it had to be Andross again.
Right! He was such an intimidating guy and I was expecting to have a long difficult fight with him to finish up the game.
Because andross wanted to face fox again
Oops. Oh well, I haven't play the game in ages.
Facts
Yes, someone else remembers this game!
"you meet colorful characters". I hoped, and secretly knew, exactly what clip was going to be on.. I love you Great Mighty Poo.... I mean.....
No Riddler from Arkahm Asylum? Sure you get to find him in Arkham City and actually actually fight him in Arkham Knight, but Riddler in Arkham Asylum always whined about the map HE LEFT OUT ON PURPOSE to find his trophies. That deserves at least ONE smackdown.
The Arkham games were a pain for doing this, i'm pretty sure there's one in every game:
Arkham Asylum- You don't get to fight Riddler and personally smack him in the mouth for making you do all those stupid challenges.
Arkham City- You don't actually ever get to fight Victor Zsasz for making you turn 180 in the opposite direction for stupid phone calls, you just get him with a simple takedown like any regular henchman.
Arkham Origins- Electrocutioner.....'nuff said
Arkham Knight- Despite being left on a huge cliff hanger at the of Arkham City, your fight with Hush is the lamest thing on the planet and ends in about 10 seconds.
You mentioned arkham knight but didnt mention not being able to actually fight scarecrow.
At the ending you at least get the satisfaction of breaking Riddler down, in Knight.
so we not gonna mention how Barry looks like lola bunny?
You forgot kind of a big one: Lucien in Fable II, who is simply shot by the Reaver just as the player is bracing for an awesome boss fight (perhaps assisted by the other Heroes). "Oh, I'm sorry: did YOU want to kill him?"
Oblivion. Dagon.
You kill makar kameron, but we get kill stolen by a literal god.
I love Ellen's on-her-sleeve emotional connection with so many of the more sympathetic characters in gaming. Frequently, I agree with her ….HATE the ending of Red Dead Redemption, Kingdoms of Amalur is a woefully under-credited saga/epic, we were both almost in tears with Aggro's determined (and heartbreaking) struggle to carry on, and such like, …. but the culture I was raised in made me extremely resistant to being outwardly emo about it. Especially so with a video game. BUT, I can just look Ellen up, find where she's played the game-in-question, and let her blubber & slobber to her heart's content. And the most I'm likely to add is a set of moist eyelashes. THANK YOU, ELLEN !!
To be fair, you do have a few boss battles with Kamek in various Mario games, so it's not like he never gets his comeuppance. And while not a boss battle, Yoshi does get the chance to fight Kamek in Yoshi's Woolly World, although he continuously respawns
This video reminds me of the trope where you meet the villain several times, and have every appearance of kicking their ass (including a health bar draining to low levels), but then they shout Enough! and walk away, like they just got sick of losing at checkers. Firstly, if they're really powerful enough to freeze me or ignore my attacks, why are they not killing me now? Some games make this a clue that the villain is using you, but then why show up and risk exposing the plan? Secondly, how dare he act high and mighty when I was clearly winning that fight. World of Warcraft had used this trope so much that ENOUGH is now a well established and hated trope, and we all got really excited when Prophet Velen suddenly stepped up and locked a villain down instead of just watching him get away. I'm not talking about slippery villains who always have a backup plan, these are bosses who suddenly knock everyone flat and strut away.
Handsome Jack. Yes, you start out with a fight with them, but it's quickly interrupted by the WARRIOR
What about those Damn Advisor at the end of Half Life 2 Episode 2... We will never finish off the Combine or find the Borealis!
the combine suceeded in taking over earth, it was in a official report from the dev team. i mean the combine is a type 6 or 7 socity and humans are only a type 0.
The borealis was found in portal 2
How about “The Father” John Seed?
I filled my ammo bags, loaded my rocket launcher, and after fighting in the bliss, I don’t even get to put a bullet in his bloody head?!
these vids r always fun because of how much fun they seem to have making them lol
No Batim? Or missing out a Joey drew fight?
okay. I'll just back to the workshop then...
Ellen is really into the Kingdom Hearts fandom now which is great!
Yes, we finally got her!! :)
General Scales from Star Fox Adventures is also a pretty notable case. As a young kid, getting denied a fight with him was really irritating
You forgot Prince Uldren in Destiny 2: Forsaken. The whole plot was based on getting revenge for cayde 6 by tracking him down, but at the end you instead see him swallowed by this massive meatball monster and you fight that instead.
Kind of disappointed (but not surprised) that El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron wasn't on the list, it's a little obscure.
It's also all about denying you boss fights. As Enoch you're tasked with defeating and purifying seven fallen angels, only three of which you get a traditional boss fight against. Of the others you have Armaros (where you mostly fight his backup dancers and don't actually get to defeat him, instead later seeing him dragged into darkness to be judged for his action), Arakiel (who died before you got there), and Baraqel (who is eaten by a Fire Nephilim just before you reach him). Then the game culminates into the final battle against Semyaza, the big bad, the leader of the fallen angels, the one who enacted the rebellion that led to their fall... only to find out he *died on impact* from being thrown from Heaven to the Earth thousands of years ago and the 'final boss' is just opening his life support tube and watching his dust scatter.
Maybe you left out El Shaddai because it takes up more than half the list on its own.
Fable 2. Lucien Fairfax. I spent hours being a hero getting ready to avenge my sister and my dog and he just stands there!?!
On the subject of Yakuza... I was always disappointed Majima doesn't get to fight Sagawa in 0. It's a slightly different situation and by the end I get why, but for most of the game... out of the people you want to punch and expect you'll get to but don't, he's top of the list.
When there was the guy from Yakuza 5 name Tsubasa Kurosawa, I thought for a second from his surname he was polish :D
I remember when I first played Shadow of Mordor and Sauron came back at the end. I was like, “Cool, I didn’t know I fight Sauron in this. Unless he dies in a cutscene or something, but that wouldn’t happen.” 😐
What about scarecrow in Batman Arkham knight, sure Gordon gets to knock him out but I kinda wanted that to myself
i see the hallusionasion sequences more as his boss fights, i think in the arkhams series scarecrow himself isnt all that suited for a physical fight
Brandon Withnell I get what you mean but at the end of Arkham knight after all this chaos he’s caused I kinda want to give him a piece of my mind, but yeah I get your point
I'd say Deathstroke takes the cake for the cheated boss fight
Similar for Scarecrow in Arkham Asylum too. You don't specifically get to fight him one-on-one if I remember rightly. The hallucinogenic dream sequences are amazing, of course, but being denied the opportunity of giving Scarecrow a proper slap rather than just shining a bat-sign in his face after he's been such a threat seems a real missed opportunity.
i like how in those kingdom hearts scenes Donald STILL isn't healing Sora
You could have included Game Cube's Star Fox Adventures. In this game General Scales brings havoc to the Dinosaur planets. In the end, Fox McCloud finally faces him, makes the first hit, and... the main villain Andross kills Scales right in front of you for being a failure. I've played this game many times and, every time, felt cheated out of kicking Sales' ass.
How about change the name of the video to _'Six slimeball villains that you did not get to deliver a much needed ass whooping to... but first Dormin, whose villainy is ambiguous at best.'_
Not as punchy I realise, but somewhat more accurate. Sure you can take Aemon's word that Dormin is evil (you know, the guy that probably murdered Mono to begin with) but I did not witness Dormin doing anything evil (looking evil maybe), I just saw him/her doing exactly what he/she promised.
🤔 You know what? I don't think Dormin is actually evil and he might just be some fuckin' pagan god that this "Aemon" fellow's church locked up. Hell, if you think about it didn't he save Wanderer's life as well? He even gave him power so he would have a better chance of defeating Aemon!
He tried to murder Emon and his men and had the colossi killed simply so he could get his corporial form back. Plus, he was locked away for crimes that he committed. Also, there's no clear indication that Emon murdered Mono. You say Dormin is not a villain until proven otherwise, but you're applying to opposite mentality for Emon.
@@dracos0024 The comment about Amon was just because that was what Ellen had claimed about him in the video, as with all things in this game the true facts are always opinion, bias and ambiguity. I've never assumed that Amon killed Mono though I consider it one of the possibilities.
The only thing that is firmly true about Amon and Dormin is that they are ideologically opposed. I simply do not take Amon's word that Dormin is evil when I have seen no evidence of it in what I have seen Dormin do and say during the game. You say he tried to murder Amon and his men but that was in self defense. You point out that he had the colossi killed to restore himself but so what, they are parts of him, not independent free-willed sapient beings, he is as much restoring them as he is himself. You say he was locked away for crimes committed but there is no proof that this was justified in any other way than religious dogma.
The rest of the characters in this list are certainly villains opposed to the hero protagonists, Dormin may have had its own agenda but does not seem to be against the hero protagonist (the player) in any way. Wander was prepared to pay whatever price to resurrect Mono and Dormin wanted to be free, they could each help the other get what they wanted and did so.
@@ChocolatierRob When is it said the colossi are part of Dormin? The black tendrils inside them are, but the same has not been said for the colossi themselves. For all we know, Emon (or whomever locked Dormin away) could've just put parts of Dormin's soul in these already existing creatures.
The ''self-defense'' argument can also be used for Emon. After all, he's a mortal human up against a godlike being the size of the empire state building.
Another thing about Dormin is that while he technically kept his promise, he did it in a genie sort of way. Like popular depictions of genies (not the blue Robin Williams kind), Dormin did what was asked of him, but with a twist that basically nullifies the result. Sure, Mono got revived, but she's stuck on an island with her only company being a horse, an infant, and some random birds and lizards, all of which she's gonna have to eat because nowhere else in the game did I see food in the forbidden lands to keep her alive. The only way she can stay alive out there is if she somehow learns how to breed lizards. Otherwise, she's just gonna die again.
Then there is the case of Wander. Though he was warned about potential consequences, it is safe to say that he wanted to be with Mono again. (regardless of wether they're in a relationship, wether he's her son, or whatever) While Dormin technically allows them to be together, he's an infant and can't possibly enjoy Mono's revival. Long story short, while Dormin kept his promises, the consequences nulify them. So in the end, the deal was really only favoring him.
A lot about SoTC is subjective, and yes, in a way Emon and Dormin's alignments are as well. But Dormin's behavior is troubling at best. You won't take Emon's word for it that he's evil, and that's fine. But likewise, I won't believe he's not until proven otherwise.
@@dracos0024
1) Well maybe not a part of Dormin but powered/animated by parts of his/her essence certainly seems likely but even if they were pre-existing creatures they still don't seem to be more than just (admittedly amazing) creatures whereas Dormin is a thinking sapient being. I'm not evil just because I'm currently eating sausages. (well maybe to a militant vegetarian but that comes back to differing ideologies)
2) Emon cannot use self defense just because his opponent is bigger. Amon came here to stop Dormin in Dormin's own lands, he is the aggressor. If Dormin were to attack Amon's village then it would be self defense but he/she isn't (yet, if at all).
3) But how many of those consequences were planned by Dormin and how many were caused by Amon showing up and interfering. It seems to me that Mono being trapped alone there was caused by the sealing spell that Amon puts over the place and who can say what would have happened to Wander if Amon had not tried to kill him and then seal Dormin. Also as for food there is also fish, deer, squirrel, fruits, turtle... Agro.
4) While Wander may have wanted to be with a revived Mono it is pretty clear that he is prepared to exchange his life for hers if it comes down to it. When you say you are prepared to pay a heavy price for someone to be resurrected you can't then claim _"Oh, I thought you just meant a really _*_big_*_ bag of gold."_ Even as he is getting more corrupted with the more Colossi he kills he still keeps going.
I love the overall ambiguity of the plot and while I admit that I lean more toward the 'not evil' side I still choose a more or less neutral choice, neither definitely good nor definitely evil. Your choosing 'guilty until proven innocent' is a clear skew in a specific direction.
Of course the original point of this comment thread was just that Dormin is certainly the odd one out from the characters and situations in this video.
(Thanks for the debate btw, it's been interesting. Rob)
Speaking of mass effect, not destroying Harbinger was my greatest disappointment.
You guys are great I love your videos!
Conker's Bad Fur Day is an amazing and underrated game.
I better see Lucien from Fable 2 on here.
Logan in Fable 3 could also count. I know he's not the true final villain, but still, he is the villain for the first half. And all you do is give a trial.
@@SheosMan117 ikr! You either banish him from Albion, or kill him where he is!
@Street Deacon the worst part is that you don't have to shoot him! If you wait long enough, Reaver will do it for you!
Anti-climactic boss fights are not the same as not having a boss fight. Jacknife at the end of Mirror's Edge is the same. One hit ending bosses are not fun.
@@drakocarrion yeah but this video says bosses that cheated you out of one, so technically, I'm not wrong
"Don't trust disembodied voices"
Oh... Maybe someone should've told me this sooner? I think I may have accidently murdered multiple innocent people because some disembodied voices told me to... whoops.
I mean... At least they gave me rewards for it?
@@thefirekeeper6056 mmm yes good plan
That outro was delightful!
I have one for this list: in borderlands 2 there's a DLC called Sir Hammerlock's Big Game Hunt, where you work up to fight professor nakayama...
What about Elysion from Dragon's Dogma? You spend most of the game hunting him and his cult, Salvation, who send a Cyclops, a Hydra, a Cockatrice and a skeleton army. You get to the penultimate mission and fight through the Greatwall to get to Elysion, only for Grigori the Dragon to drop from the sky and squish him.
We also never get to fight the dirty coward duke. Just come on.