I like you brother. Im a long time Luna user from the UK. You're clear, to the point, the right speed and very humble and personable. I've subscribed. Easy buddy!
Okay so i did a mixdown with API summing vs without. I could hear the difference with my nice headlhones on. When i bypassed the drums the track almsost sounded deflated without it. Well mix down to mp3, and listening on a phone or cheaper headphones (not my $300 Sennheisers) it was so negligible theres no way i could have known which was which. TRIAL IT, do A/B mix downs. If youre having to close your eyes and really concentrate listening back on a common device dont. If youre gonna be listening at 192 or putting it on tidal or just 48 on a decent system them yeah.
Yeah, compression, and tape and say voosteqs channel N (imo better than UADs Neve pre). First plugin I've said that about. Summing does something different, but on a mp3 which is what everyone's gonna hear your mix on literally would have zero idea which song sounding different. I couldn't even hear a difference on my phone's headphones. My nice open backs, yes. But it just feels like Neve/API pre and EQ > comp > tape saturation which adds slight more compression and rounds off the transients and gives that slight saturation when hit harder. I really wanna love this DAW but after I did an AB on common everyday consumer speakers...idk. Just make sure you add your console strips and tape on every channel of your DAW, which you can just highlight every track and add it to them all at once...easy peasy. Then you're basically there
The Neve version is really weird, you can get it as a demo on any type of hardware - but you can only buy it if you have UA hardware - just plain daft. also when the demo expires, if you wait long enough it will "un-expire" and be useable again.
It’s a simple business decision to watch over their business partner. UA has made Neve a lot of money over the years through their plugins, Neve is simply showing a little appreciation by making sure UA gets some of the cash generated by people like myself who appreciate the Neve Summing. Clearly Neve could easily remove the need for UA hardware in their licensure of their Neve Summing extension.
More people would pay $300 or 150 on a discount to be able to use it than will buy hardware just to use it. They'd make more money than making people go out and buy hardware. Gonna buy an Apollo solo or twin when I have a basically zero latency with my quad cortex that washes uads guitar sims, and has way better routing than those two intro apollos plus I don't need DSP with having 50+ plus native uad plugins. I'm not upset it's their company, but they should
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I like you brother. Im a long time Luna user from the UK. You're clear, to the point, the right speed and very humble and personable. I've subscribed. Easy buddy!
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Nice, explained very well
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Great tutorial
Thank you!
Can you summing before you start the actual mix processing or is summing something you do after you’re done with the mix for final polishing?
You could do it either way, but I generally add the extensions early on and mix into them.
Okay so i did a mixdown with API summing vs without. I could hear the difference with my nice headlhones on. When i bypassed the drums the track almsost sounded deflated without it. Well mix down to mp3, and listening on a phone or cheaper headphones (not my $300 Sennheisers) it was so negligible theres no way i could have known which was which. TRIAL IT, do A/B mix downs. If youre having to close your eyes and really concentrate listening back on a common device dont. If youre gonna be listening at 192 or putting it on tidal or just 48 on a decent system them yeah.
Alex, if you don't have a summing plugin, ie free version of Luna, can you achieve similar with say Neve or API plugin on an insert?
Yeah, compression, and tape and say voosteqs channel N (imo better than UADs Neve pre). First plugin I've said that about. Summing does something different, but on a mp3 which is what everyone's gonna hear your mix on literally would have zero idea which song sounding different. I couldn't even hear a difference on my phone's headphones. My nice open backs, yes. But it just feels like Neve/API pre and EQ > comp > tape saturation which adds slight more compression and rounds off the transients and gives that slight saturation when hit harder. I really wanna love this DAW but after I did an AB on common everyday consumer speakers...idk. Just make sure you add your console strips and tape on every channel of your DAW, which you can just highlight every track and add it to them all at once...easy peasy. Then you're basically there
The Neve version is really weird, you can get it as a demo on any type of hardware - but you can only buy it if you have UA hardware - just plain daft. also when the demo expires, if you wait long enough it will "un-expire" and be useable again.
It’s a simple business decision to watch over their business partner. UA has made Neve a lot of money over the years through their plugins, Neve is simply showing a little appreciation by making sure UA gets some of the cash generated by people like myself who appreciate the Neve Summing. Clearly Neve could easily remove the need for UA hardware in their licensure of their Neve Summing extension.
More people would pay $300 or 150 on a discount to be able to use it than will buy hardware just to use it. They'd make more money than making people go out and buy hardware. Gonna buy an Apollo solo or twin when I have a basically zero latency with my quad cortex that washes uads guitar sims, and has way better routing than those two intro apollos plus I don't need DSP with having 50+ plus native uad plugins. I'm not upset it's their company, but they should
cool tut. thx