Lee Cain, Tory strategist: A Carthaginian defeat is coming

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  • @FraserBailey-jm5yz
    @FraserBailey-jm5yz 4 місяці тому +109

    Oh they delivered change all right. All of it for the worse. Utterly useless.

  • @Truth_Hurts528
    @Truth_Hurts528 4 місяці тому +70

    You can't fail at something you never intended to do in the first place.....

  • @rhysholdaway
    @rhysholdaway 4 місяці тому +51

    I'm not sure I agree. The Tories delivered change. Change for the worse.

    • @colinmartin2921
      @colinmartin2921 4 місяці тому +1

      What change? There was no change whatsoever, what happened to the high-skill, high-wage economy?

    • @rocketpig1914
      @rocketpig1914 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@colinmartin2921everyone got poorer.

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive 4 місяці тому

      ,​​@@colinmartin2921they lopped 5% off the economy through a brain-dead policy, so then they had to push up taxes and Truss cost £1bi/day thanks to the Kwarteng budget debacle

  • @marumaru6084
    @marumaru6084 4 місяці тому +40

    1.5 million immigrants in a year, they care about you not at all!

    • @elainewojnicki9610
      @elainewojnicki9610 4 місяці тому

      Why are you making this about immigrants, it's not there fault the country is in the state it is.

    • @marumaru6084
      @marumaru6084 4 місяці тому

      @@elainewojnicki9610 This is deflection the politicians are to blame and the immigrants are the cause.

    • @vinlennox7658
      @vinlennox7658 4 місяці тому

      ​@@elainewojnicki9610if it was as BAD as you think they WOULD NOT COME. u know

    • @nonnobis2232
      @nonnobis2232 3 місяці тому

      ​@@vinlennox7658a bad UK is better than worse other countries so of course they'd come. The tories imported a new population because they don't care about the existing population and their corporate overloads want cheap labour. They deserve zero seats.

    • @gandydancer9710
      @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому

      @@elainewojnicki9610 No, it's the fault of those who failed to even try to deliver on their promises to stop the invasion. I don't want to blame the invaders, I only want to exclude and deport them.

  • @discordantduck1808
    @discordantduck1808 4 місяці тому +19

    nobody in the UK seems aware that things are going to get seriously bad, nobody is in the driver's seat, not anyone representing the electorate at least. everything is set to get worse with no political solution.

    • @774Rob
      @774Rob 4 місяці тому

      Oh they have solutions alright, bad ones that we wouldn't stomach if it wasn't for the mayhem they have created.

    • @stephenhill545
      @stephenhill545 4 місяці тому

      Things are bad. We have foodbanks ffs.

    • @ashfield1425
      @ashfield1425 4 місяці тому

      Oh, we know.

    • @englishoak69
      @englishoak69 4 місяці тому +4

      Same in most of the western world, its been in slow motion collapse for more than 2 decades only now its speeding up as things race towards the cliff with no parachute.

  • @MrGavinBoyd
    @MrGavinBoyd 4 місяці тому +28

    14 years in power. Your time is up.

    • @Truth_Hurts528
      @Truth_Hurts528 4 місяці тому +5

      No it is not. Both parties are run by the same crowd.

    • @justsomefella1489
      @justsomefella1489 4 місяці тому

      ​@Truth_Hurts528 yes it is. Gey used to it is my advice

  • @encle
    @encle 4 місяці тому +44

    ‘Lockdown saved lives’. This is why we despise the political class - out of touch and deluded. Get lost Cain.

    • @castropianoforte
      @castropianoforte 4 місяці тому

      Exactly. It's just a lazy assumption with nothing to back it up. In fact, lock-down destroyed a lot of lives. The curves all followed a similar pattern whether a country locked down or not.

  • @levcimac
    @levcimac 4 місяці тому +12

    The British people are not frustrated, that is an optimistic idea, we're feeling hopeless, and on the edge of despair.

  • @PadreAlan67
    @PadreAlan67 4 місяці тому +51

    Wow.. I didn't think anyone was still this deluded about lockdowns....

    • @castropianoforte
      @castropianoforte 4 місяці тому +7

      They'd rather keep the narrative going than admit to making a massive error.

    • @Beckiner67
      @Beckiner67 4 місяці тому +3

      I couldn’t believe it when Cain said the first lockdown was good. Doesn’t he know what happened in the care homes in the very early days. (Edited.grammer)

    • @Tempus64
      @Tempus64 4 місяці тому +3

      Sweden did worse than some of it's neighbors that had lockdowns. The medical guy in charge when pressed on their death rate, primarily among elderly, has stated he would have done things differently.

    • @idcharles3739
      @idcharles3739 4 місяці тому +1

      Nope ​@@Tempus64

    • @mtrhodesy
      @mtrhodesy 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Beckiner67 What strategy would of had a better outcome, now we have the benefit of looking back? Obviously care homes were a afterthought, which countries did better and why?

  • @m4inline
    @m4inline 4 місяці тому +47

    What C19 taught us is not that the Tories are useless but pretty much everyone at the top is a clueless dysfunctional circus. Revolution. Not the second cheek of the same arse.

    • @dna9838
      @dna9838 4 місяці тому

      I'm no fan of the tories, least of all those that have led us into brexit debacle, but the c19 response was very similar to other advanced countries. In many ways more enlightened and supportive of the population.

    • @thomasm1964
      @thomasm1964 4 місяці тому

      With dangerous psychopathic control tendencies, eh Hancock?

    • @thomasm1964
      @thomasm1964 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@dna9838So what? All being wrong-headed (or seeking power grabs) together still makes you wrong.

    • @dna9838
      @dna9838 4 місяці тому

      @user-3282 "saved so many lives". You're welcome

    • @thomasm1964
      @thomasm1964 4 місяці тому +4

      @user-3282 Imperial College : the misery they caused all around the world yet no-one from there will ever pay for their crimes.

  • @774Rob
    @774Rob 4 місяці тому +32

    This is what happens when you serve Goldman Sachs instead of the people.

    • @anonUK
      @anonUK 4 місяці тому

      You think they've been serving the bankers? Maybe Cameron and May were- but I think any actual planning went out of the window with Boris and the complete farce known as the Truss government. Sunak still hasn't been able to fix the damage- the only people this government have been serving are themselves.

  • @elizabethanderson2968
    @elizabethanderson2968 4 місяці тому +85

    The UK needs a revolution, not another cheek of the same arse

    • @dna9838
      @dna9838 4 місяці тому

      Lurching right and left, and each spending time and money and other resources undoing what went before has been a long term distraction from doing what the country actually needs.. Long term thinking and long term planning that majority can either support or tolerate. A revolution is absolutely the LAST thing we need!

    • @shelleyscloud3651
      @shelleyscloud3651 4 місяці тому +8

      Agree unfortunately 5 years of Labour are going to have to be undergone to wake the masses up 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @DanTheCox
      @DanTheCox 4 місяці тому +2

      @@jeffcxx you won't enjoy what the near future will bring out anyway. So it's either taking control of your destiny or abandoning yours and your children's (if you have any or want any).

    • @shelleyscloud3651
      @shelleyscloud3651 4 місяці тому +2

      @@jeffcxx true but if a government keeps ignoring the will of the people, while conditions worsen, it’s inevitable. It’s miserable either way but the blame is theirs.

    • @elizabethanderson2968
      @elizabethanderson2968 4 місяці тому

      @@jeffcxx Well, it's no tea party... people would rather Stockholm syndrome

  • @matthewsands3591
    @matthewsands3591 4 місяці тому +7

    Did that guy really say, with a straight face, that people supported and still support Boris' response to covid?

  • @elkabongg2716
    @elkabongg2716 4 місяці тому +11

    That Lee Cain keeps talking about change but doesn't seem to have any idea what changes he is talking about, it's just a slogan that just about every politician uses, they all say they will bring change.

  • @tim2muntu954
    @tim2muntu954 4 місяці тому +6

    If these people are serious, they'll be calling a national referendum on support for First past the Post or Proportional Representation.

  • @fbinformant
    @fbinformant 4 місяці тому +17

    Complete clownshow and waste of time 😤. Hope they get ZERO Seats

  • @tcb3901
    @tcb3901 4 місяці тому +12

    “We couldn’t provide real change” nah bro you were never going to, and you lied about it

    • @offshoretomorrow3346
      @offshoretomorrow3346 4 місяці тому

      Bullseye.
      No Borders is a coalition policy between Robber Capitalists and Leftist nihilism.

  • @Peterhartill
    @Peterhartill 4 місяці тому +6

    We have had 40 years of neo liberal economics and 60 years of liberal democracy and they don’t deliver. We are at the Gorbachev moment.

  • @chieftandriver703
    @chieftandriver703 4 місяці тому +24

    The immigration figures have now been released
    These guys have completely and utterly changed a 1000yr old society beyond recognition. Immigration has become a totemic issue and a huge problem. The Tories have imported more people in 10 yrs than ever moved to the U.K. in history.
    Our kids will never own a home, never earn a decent wage, find getting a job very challenging and will probably never qualify for a state pension because the Tories imported the third world

    • @offshoretomorrow3346
      @offshoretomorrow3346 4 місяці тому

      Far more than that, they've set an example: ANYONE who kicks the door down stays, forever.
      The growth from this will become exponential - and is the surrender flag to a full scale invasion and colonisation.

    • @DanTheCox
      @DanTheCox 4 місяці тому

      and with the unhinged left, things are going to go even further ahead, no doubt about that.

  • @unitedinsoul
    @unitedinsoul 4 місяці тому +28

    Every time I go into any area of population I am reminded of how much change the Tories have made to England. The country has turned into a giant,open refugee camp.I will never forgive them for that.

    • @karenbaxter2318
      @karenbaxter2318 4 місяці тому

      Look a little deeper, the pigeons of imperialism are come home to roost. If the west interfered less in the politics of other countries the world might not be so unstable. They are all basically feathering their own nests and have been for generations then it’s the people at the bottom who pay the price. The ordinary men die in battle that those at the top start. But we vote them in 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @lasttango7522
      @lasttango7522 4 місяці тому +1

      Same in my town. Tory failure is unbelievable. Labour will be worse. But the sheeple will always be blind.
      The hypocrites will be cold this winter. Bless.

  • @just_another32
    @just_another32 4 місяці тому +9

    the part about lockdowns! scares me how we have such polarised views on such important issues these days : /

  • @anglodoomer5995
    @anglodoomer5995 4 місяці тому +19

    Performative failure

  • @davidhodgson3901
    @davidhodgson3901 4 місяці тому +2

    Half inflation. The government has done nothing to half inflation. Dear me, this is basics..

  • @DylanYoung
    @DylanYoung 4 місяці тому +7

    Why would anyone take anything this guy says seriously when he's still defending lockdowns?

  • @fatboy7276
    @fatboy7276 4 місяці тому +30

    it's amazing that people in such positions still think lockdowns were a good idea

    • @VelkePivo
      @VelkePivo 4 місяці тому +9

      even when just presented with the irrefutable swedish model in the question, this tool says they saved "a huge number of lives."

    • @_dude..
      @_dude.. 4 місяці тому

      30:24 "no government wins after causing a financial crisis"
      Yes, but that wasn't really Truss was it? It was the lockdown, billions on track and trace, paying people to stay at home and not work, watering down the economy by money printing...
      Utterly deluded.

    • @StiloVerso-kn7wn
      @StiloVerso-kn7wn 4 місяці тому +3

      @@VelkePivo actually the unpalatable truth about the Swedish lockdown is... it worked because they were Swedes. my wife is Swedish and we were constantly... people in Sweden have a higher rate of compliance with non-binding recommendations than people in the UK do with law. it's just a fact. a debate about Sweden, or Germany or the UK without considering what the raw material of the process is... is idle theorising.

    • @pedalinpete
      @pedalinpete 4 місяці тому +1

      I think that Lee thought that it was a good idea, because it was popular.

    • @_dude..
      @_dude.. 4 місяці тому

      They spunked billions up the wall during cov1d, including the track and trace fiasco. He says that Truss caused the economic disaster with a straight face. I'm sure they all lined their pockets and helped out their mates and had a good laugh about it.
      Deluded fool.

  • @winstonsmasterplan
    @winstonsmasterplan 4 місяці тому +5

    Lee stands for nothing if you listen closely

  • @1685mymusic
    @1685mymusic 4 місяці тому +4

    2019 we were lied to. Completely and utterly a pathological liar. There was no optimism amongst those of us who recognised a complete Charleton. How can you fail to mention this is your assessment of the current malaise. I had credited you with more intelligence……

  • @CountProsper
    @CountProsper 4 місяці тому +5

    They have never, since 2016, worked out how to get anything done. Lots of clever staffers whizzing round in Number 10 doesn't affect the outside world.

    • @offshoretomorrow3346
      @offshoretomorrow3346 4 місяці тому +1

      Lee Cain is as inspiring as the England football manager at the inevitable defeat post-mortem.

  • @-aussie-
    @-aussie- 4 місяці тому +5

    Brilliant please keep the great journalism coming

  • @macca9770
    @macca9770 4 місяці тому +12

    Agent Sunak has completed his destructive project. On to Keir Stalin…

  • @mandyshanks2327
    @mandyshanks2327 4 місяці тому +4

    Yuk - that bald guy is sick.

  • @andybrice2711
    @andybrice2711 4 місяці тому +9

    As I see it, the tradeoff with a right-wing government is usually this: The rich get a lot richer. But at least small businesses and hardworking people get richer too.
    Under Sunak’s government. Almost everyone seems to have become materially worse off except his cronies.
    Hardly anyone is going to vote for that enthusiastically. However they try and spin it.

    • @fbinformant
      @fbinformant 4 місяці тому

      Imagine thinking the "conservatives" are rightwing

  • @daveygee434
    @daveygee434 4 місяці тому +2

    This guy is ducking delusional. I hold him accountable for supporting such a vile corrupt government!!!

  • @MrMhemhe
    @MrMhemhe 4 місяці тому +1

    "We were all so excited about..." -- Sheet. You boys don't get it AT ALL. Threatening that Labour will be a 'return to square one' sounds like great news to most of us.

  • @wheelerrach1
    @wheelerrach1 4 місяці тому +1

    I always imagined when Borris disappeared with his Covid, that in actual fact he had been ushered into a dark, smoky room and instructed as to how he would lead the country through the next two years and given a couple of weeks off to get used to the idea and recover from the shattering of his dreams of a great legacy.

  • @edmunddengler7687
    @edmunddengler7687 4 місяці тому +4

    The only solution is to vote for a truly local independent candidate who is not tied to the party system. But VERY few people want to put the work in for that, so be prepared to suffer under a pseudo representation system.

    • @matthewrampley1894
      @matthewrampley1894 4 місяці тому

      Yes but how would they form a government?

    • @edmunddengler7687
      @edmunddengler7687 4 місяці тому

      @@matthewrampley1894 By independently considering issues and voting? If enough of them formed a "majority" by selecting amoung themselves a leader and area experts who could be pulled down if the "leader" or "expert" didn't act as the group wanted? By potentially having a balance of power as a minority support? Why wouldn't they be able to form a government? In this way, your representative is a not a "back bencher" who is a meat robot to a "leadership" who only cares for the power you give them rather than being a representative.
      I would agree this would be tougher and more raucous, but all Western nations have shown that most so-called "alternative" partied are either corrupt themselves or split the vote so that only mainstream parties can win, and thus don't need to represent your interests.

    • @edmunddengler7687
      @edmunddengler7687 4 місяці тому

      @@matthewrampley1894 I've had 2 replies already not show up, let's see if this makes it.

  • @colinmartin2921
    @colinmartin2921 4 місяці тому +5

    The biggest mistake the Tories made was getting rid of the one man who had a plan to deliver change, and that was Dominic Cummings.

    • @matthewrampley1894
      @matthewrampley1894 4 місяці тому +1

      The problem is that he didn't have a plan and he didn't understand how to govern. It's easy to come up with unhinged ideas of the kind he did. The skill lies in knowing how to implement them. Clue # 1: don't express contempt for the people charged with putting them into practice. And the small issue that Cummings doesn't believe in democratic government.

  • @SirAntoniousBlock
    @SirAntoniousBlock 4 місяці тому +1

    2010 Voted Tory, 2011 Voted against PR, 2014 voted against Scottish independence, 2015 Voted Tory again, 2016 Voted brexit, 2017 Voted Tory again, 2019 Voted Tory again.
    You get what you deserve.

  • @misteroz
    @misteroz 3 місяці тому

    When you consider the events of the last five years, I’m not sure it’s a bad thing that people have lost faith in politicians.

  • @lmg7503
    @lmg7503 4 місяці тому +1

    We all have lost our faith

  • @Kefuddle
    @Kefuddle 4 місяці тому +2

    Change! Change. Chaaaaaange. What? Not that kind of change!

  • @thegreatrest-exslave-slave9450
    @thegreatrest-exslave-slave9450 4 місяці тому +4

    I am so glad that the Tories are falling apart. Boris should have gone with his instincts and followed the Swedish plan for dealing with Covid. Lockdowns have made us all poorer, sicker and sadder. With Starmer it would have been a lot worse, so I am always grateful for that mercy but so many people I know are falling ill with cancer after taking the jabs although I don't know anyone - ANYONE - who became seriously ill with Covid.

  • @gandydancer9710
    @gandydancer9710 3 місяці тому

    "Tory strategist". Now THERE's a contradiction in terms.

  • @mandyshanks2327
    @mandyshanks2327 4 місяці тому +2

    I think Reform are the best.

    • @stephenhill545
      @stephenhill545 4 місяці тому

      For what? Offering simple solutions which won't work. Are they still planning flatrate tax and privatisation of the NHS?

  • @vic5289
    @vic5289 4 місяці тому +1

    This Blair style Labour is even more frighteningly inane and inapt .... There has to be a completely new political system, preferably one that does not resemble at all to the one we have today

  • @NicoM1469
    @NicoM1469 4 місяці тому +4

    Say 'delivery' one more time 🙄

  • @jasoncooper9391
    @jasoncooper9391 4 місяці тому +1

    Where is the 40 new Hospitals 😂

  • @ManNoName-c9u
    @ManNoName-c9u 4 місяці тому +3

    So Lee Cain is intrinsically involved, if not significantly responsible for the shit heap that the UK is now. Another name to add to Sunak, Truss, Cameron, May, Rees-Mogg, Patel, Braverman, Gove, Farage, Cummings....have I missed out anyone? let me think.....

  • @nigelhardy7218
    @nigelhardy7218 4 місяці тому

    I disagree that 100-150 seats would be a bad outcome for the Tories. Far from it!

  • @therobertspot4840
    @therobertspot4840 4 місяці тому +1

    Wait....Boris went with a woke agenda??

  • @andrewhickling8810
    @andrewhickling8810 4 місяці тому +2

    This episode shows how out of touch politicians are. Points based immigration was a good idea. Just it was too low and hence continued mass immigration . Voters want immigration numbers down.

    • @karenbaxter2318
      @karenbaxter2318 4 місяці тому

      Forgive me but I think you are blaming the victims, the problems are systemic and world wide. capitalism doesn’t not work for the many just the few at the top. Everyone is an economic migrant, just look at the Brits who buy property abroad. Going over-there and taking their houses 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @andrewhickling8810
      @andrewhickling8810 4 місяці тому +1

      @@karenbaxter2318 WTF when has excess migration been systemic and world wide capitalism problem? People always want to improve their quality of life from poorer nations to richer. This does not depend on any economic system - it is just a fact of life. It is up to the host nation to set the rules of who they want and prevent unwanted migrants. Read up on Ellis Island NY migration rules. In no universe are we always going to be the same . You don't even have exactly the same quality of life as your neighbour. Get real!

    • @karenbaxter2318
      @karenbaxter2318 4 місяці тому

      I guess i am referring to the interference that the old colonial system caused in so many countries around the world and the problems many of them are now experiencing are a direct consequence of such and that so many of the immigrants/asylum seekers are escaping. The problems in our country are in some way due to loss of jobs because the profit margins are greater by out-sourcing the work to other countries. It’s a complex issue but studies have shown that most immigrants put more in to this country than they take out. So many coming here now are fleeing wars and corrupt countries that adopted our way of doing things. And I know I don’t have the same quality of life as my neighbour. I work in mental health with the homeless so I think I’m real enough, thank you. 🙏

    • @andrewhickling8810
      @andrewhickling8810 4 місяці тому

      So Karen increasing the supply of workers by importing more (even though they might contribute more) by definitions reduces wages. This is basic supply and demand. This is why the Tories/Big Business want to increase immigration. And you are kind of supporting their strategy. The poor working class suffer. What we actually need is a combination of better work experience/apprenticeships to get the unemployed back to work. We don't need more university degrees. I believe a lot of mental health issues are due to a lack of direction and work. What we do NOT need is importing more and more cheap labour. As for old "colonial" system - in 20 years time historians will be making the case that in many ways the British colonial system benefited many people by bringing the rule of law into some areas that were run by despotic tribal systems. The assumption is the British somehow came into to a paradise and destroyed it. When the historical pendulum swings the other way they will try to analyse what was there before colonialism. Sometimes I am sure the British Empire did not bring sunlit uplands, but in other cases yes. I hope we live long enough to see these studies !

    • @andrewhickling8810
      @andrewhickling8810 4 місяці тому

      @@karenbaxter2318 Or perhaps 1834 when we made slavery illegal through the British Empire - improving lives for millions. The West African squadron destroying the Atlantic slave trade - the most authentic "BLM" movement in history..... I could continue...

  • @Somaliland44
    @Somaliland44 4 місяці тому +1

    Deliver, Leveling, blah, blah, new terms, same old spin.

  • @alanwood4968
    @alanwood4968 4 місяці тому

    Never mind your yap, We do not trust the main parties for telling lies. It needs a complete change to listen to the people and a lesser companies and what they need. Thats a basic. the main is "THE TRUTH".

  • @danielclemence3689
    @danielclemence3689 4 місяці тому +2

    Please no Labour government 😭

    • @stephenhill545
      @stephenhill545 4 місяці тому

      Looking forward to cuts in inheritance tax are we?

  • @pedazodetorpedo
    @pedazodetorpedo 4 місяці тому +1

    This poor fool actually believes the lockdowns saved lives 😂

  • @scotlandtheinsane3359
    @scotlandtheinsane3359 4 місяці тому +14

    Starmer shall be the most undeserving PM for a generation even taking into account May and the two unelected Melts after her..

    • @dna9838
      @dna9838 4 місяці тому +2

      Undeserving? He's very effective at pmqs, has a great cv of public service.. Is a consummate centrist, which is exactly what we need since we're so divided and polarised on an island with natural borders that should have great potential for a sense of unity.

    • @stephenhill545
      @stephenhill545 4 місяці тому

      Worse than Truss. Is that actually possible?

    • @scotlandtheinsane3359
      @scotlandtheinsane3359 4 місяці тому

      @@dna9838
      Blah, blah, blah!
      His 'honeymoon period' shall last a week..

    • @dna9838
      @dna9838 4 місяці тому

      @@scotlandtheinsane3359 you're going to ensure that and not give your part of consensus so he can actually get on with the job? This tribalism will just hurt us all

    • @scotlandtheinsane3359
      @scotlandtheinsane3359 4 місяці тому

      @dna9838
      Tell that to Labour.
      And no, I'm NEVER just going to fall in line.
      Never did that with the Tories, so you can bet your ass I won't with these clowns..

  • @mbrochh82
    @mbrochh82 4 місяці тому

    Here's a ChatGPT summary:
    - Prime Minister Rishi Sunak announced a general election for July 4th.
    - Parliament will be dissolved in a few days, leading to a six-week campaign.
    - Lee Cain, a key strategist in the 2019 election, and Tom McTake, political editor, discuss the implications.
    - The government is 24% behind in opinion polls and facing numerous challenges, including NHS waiting lists and small boat crossings.
    - Inflation has decreased but may rise again by the end of the year.
    - Sunak's five big promises: halving inflation (achieved), growing the economy (achieved), cutting NHS waiting lists (not achieved), stopping small boats (not achieved).
    - The government has record high taxes and is the first since WWII to leave with lower disposable incomes.
    - NHS waiting times have quadrupled since 2010.
    - Sunak's main campaign focus will be on the Rwanda immigration plan.
    - The mood is dismal compared to the optimistic 2019 election.
    - The 2019 election was driven by the promise of change and getting Brexit done.
    - Keir Starmer, Labour leader, faces an enthusiasm deficit but is likely to win.
    - Labour's success depends on quickly diagnosing and addressing key issues.
    - Potential for new political movements, like Dominic Cummings' start-up party, but first-past-the-post system makes it difficult.
    - Reform party could influence election outcomes but unlikely to become a governing party.
    - Sunak's technocratic approach and failure to deliver on key issues have hurt his standing.
    - The Conservative Party's project lacks depth and clear direction post-Boris Johnson.
    - Main message: The Conservative Party faces a significant defeat due to unmet promises and a lack of clear direction, while Labour's success hinges on quickly addressing public dissatisfaction.

  • @StephenKenny-hw7of
    @StephenKenny-hw7of 4 місяці тому +1

    ‘Change’. Another empty political buzz word. Utterly devoid of meaning. I’ll tell you what the people want. They want to be listened to. And also, the government and civil service needs to do what it’s bloody told to do.

  • @mattbooth307
    @mattbooth307 4 місяці тому +2

    If all those people who emphatically voted for Brexit have decided to stop voting, then the world's gotten better.

    • @ashfield1425
      @ashfield1425 4 місяці тому

      God, are you still sore about Brexit? If there was another referendum tomorrow I’d be first in the queue to reaffirm my vote. We were told that we were conspiracy theorists on an EU army. Really? From where I am standing that’s exCtly what they are going to do.
      I do now actually hope we do rejoin do that remoaners get sent to the frontlines. Then we won’t have to listen the constant whines and complaining and as you said, it will knock out a whole voting block that persistently votes against their own interest. You are welcome.

  • @pperrinuk
    @pperrinuk 4 місяці тому +2

    Voting? #IDoNotConsent

  • @junehope5152
    @junehope5152 4 місяці тому +1

    We want social change they are unable or unwilling to deliver it look at the fuss that’s been made when they were told to stop butchering kids

  • @glassmuxxic
    @glassmuxxic 4 місяці тому

    Zero seats.

  • @Alec_Collins78
    @Alec_Collins78 4 місяці тому

    Is yesterday's video gone? Because of the sound?

  • @mandyshanks2327
    @mandyshanks2327 4 місяці тому

    Read Blind and then Seeing by Jose Saramago to see where opting out of voting gets us. It gets us to totalitarian. We must vote.

  • @raukoring
    @raukoring 4 місяці тому

    that guy thinks that lockdowns were good..

  • @paulcalver7514
    @paulcalver7514 4 місяці тому

    My advice to people, for what it's worth...
    Don't vote. Decrease legitimacy of politicians by making it obvious that they may have won, but that their support base is small and reliant only on tribal loyalties.
    They will have power, but they will know - deep down - that they are not 'liked'.

    • @karenbaxter2318
      @karenbaxter2318 4 місяці тому

      I dont think they care about being liked! They just want to feather their own nests. I’d like a box on the ballot paper that says ‘none of the above’ that way maybe we might get a proper democracy rather than the sham they keep offering.

    • @maccagrabme
      @maccagrabme 4 місяці тому

      Best to split the vote share as even under any new system it will be the same clownshow in charge, they don't care if you don't vote, they just need a bigger number than the other party and you have just wasted an opportunity for another 5 years.

  • @robertholland7558
    @robertholland7558 4 місяці тому +1

    George Galloway for PM

  • @davidhodgson3901
    @davidhodgson3901 4 місяці тому

    Isn’t it time you admitted that Brexit is a stupid idea?

  • @rocketpig1914
    @rocketpig1914 4 місяці тому +11

    Cain seems to think that a policy (like lockdowns) should only be assessed by its popularity at that moment in time. The disconnect in Westminster between cause (lockdown) and effect (sky-high inflation) is delusional. Talk about groupthink

  • @dlmsarge8329
    @dlmsarge8329 4 місяці тому +8

    It's funny, because just looking at Lee Cain you couldn't really tell he has no soul.

  • @TiGGowich
    @TiGGowich 4 місяці тому +44

    I was able to listen until the bloke started talking about how great lockdown was and how many lives it saved... what a bunch of BS

    • @macca9770
      @macca9770 4 місяці тому +7

      Same. Deluded

    • @859902
      @859902 4 місяці тому +6

      Agreed

    • @offshoretomorrow3346
      @offshoretomorrow3346 4 місяці тому

      Sweden finally proved that, longterm, lockdowns achieved sweet FA.

  • @Dionysus-gv9lz
    @Dionysus-gv9lz 4 місяці тому +18

    Majority of UK is impoverished outside of London.

    • @ajs41
      @ajs41 4 місяці тому +2

      But happier than people in London.

    • @dna9838
      @dna9838 4 місяці тому

      Could be better, but could also be a lot worse.. Compare Moscow's modernism with large parts of the rest of the country where a third of homes don't even have indoor toilets.

  • @LeeJohn70
    @LeeJohn70 4 місяці тому +50

    WE WILL GET THE SAME WEF LEADER, PARLIAMENT ARE ONLY WEF PUPPETS

    • @fbinformant
      @fbinformant 4 місяці тому +4

      Controlled by the Dark Lord, Tony Blair

    • @dna9838
      @dna9838 4 місяці тому +4

      Lizard people? Pyramids in Antarctica?

    • @SpeedfreakUK
      @SpeedfreakUK 4 місяці тому +2

      Settle down, Beavis

  • @nightwingtrp7399
    @nightwingtrp7399 4 місяці тому +12

    Lee Cain continues to hold the farcical view that lockdown saved lives. It cost lives and destroyed futures. Lee Cain is an awful human being.

    • @thetragicyouth
      @thetragicyouth 4 місяці тому

      No lockdown would have been far, far more devastating. There were no good options, lockdown was the least worst. Anti-lockdown nonsense is just far right conspiracy theory idiocy.

  • @michaelnoller9063
    @michaelnoller9063 4 місяці тому +5

    These guys sound deluded.

    • @chieftandriver703
      @chieftandriver703 4 місяці тому

      It’s the dusty they inhabit
      They don’t mix with the rest of us. They don’t hear the conversations but they honestly believe what the spout. These clowns influence policy
      I am still waiting for HS2 and a new hospital

    • @chieftandriver703
      @chieftandriver703 4 місяці тому +1

      ****industry

  • @sylvester2294
    @sylvester2294 4 місяці тому +4

    These are movers and shakers??? Do not think so...??

  • @miraforeman7567
    @miraforeman7567 4 місяці тому +12

    Ppl died bc of lockdown. Another one living in parallel universe

  • @patricklarsen8078
    @patricklarsen8078 4 місяці тому +3

    I hate how people interchange the word "economy" and "stock market"

  • @odiedodieuk
    @odiedodieuk 4 місяці тому +25

    It’s not even that, the Tories aren’t right wing. They’re not even mildly conservative.

    • @maccagrabme
      @maccagrabme 4 місяці тому

      But most of the lefties are convinced they are FR. They really haven't got a clue but then they believe that the Labour Party are for the working class.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 4 місяці тому

      You sound just like the Bennites in the 80s. 'Labour lost because they weren't real socialists and weren't left wing enough'. Amazing how Bennite the Tories have become.

  • @in6087
    @in6087 4 місяці тому +3

    The support they really lacked was support from the blob

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 4 місяці тому +4

    They ballsed up everything with Brexit and austerity.

    • @SpeedfreakUK
      @SpeedfreakUK 4 місяці тому

      Why is Europe doing worse than we are then?

  • @callumginbey2369
    @callumginbey2369 4 місяці тому +1

    This clowns commentary on lockdown is shockingly misguided. Let it go, you messed up. Apologise and move on.

  • @karenness5588
    @karenness5588 4 місяці тому +1

    Asking a politician's point of view is like asking an escaping octopus to let us see where he is going...

  • @somthingbrutal
    @somthingbrutal 4 місяці тому +1

    good does that mean we can salt the ground to stop them sprouting up again

  • @PeloquinDavid
    @PeloquinDavid 4 місяці тому +1

    A "Carthaginian" defeat, certainly. The key question to be answered, though, is: in which of the three Punic wars?

    • @dazzle4708
      @dazzle4708 3 місяці тому

      Second, obviously. Starts out with one side’s decisive victories (Brexit, 2019 GE) inflicted by charismatic leading personalities (BoJo) but they lose anyway.

    • @PeloquinDavid
      @PeloquinDavid 3 місяці тому

      @@dazzle4708 As with the Punic wars, only time will tell.
      If the Tories recover (in two or three Parliaments' time), then it will have been more akin to the Carthaginians' loss in the first Punic war.
      If they suffer a further devastating defeat in the 2028 or 2029 general election (akin to the third Punic war) and pass from the scene entirely, then your guess for 2024 would be right.

  • @davidhall7744
    @davidhall7744 4 місяці тому +1

    Tory tears are delicious 😂

  • @richardabbot8724
    @richardabbot8724 4 місяці тому +5

    There is no democratic solution to the problems we face.

  • @grahamkearnon6682
    @grahamkearnon6682 4 місяці тому

    COST OF LIVING CRISIS, this is such a posh boy video,

  • @terrycasey1340
    @terrycasey1340 4 місяці тому

    The answer to this guys problems and issues going forward are all in Garys Economics if you want to check this out

  • @mcgilcol
    @mcgilcol 3 місяці тому

    You're getting a choice between Tweedledum and Tweedledummer

  • @amandahsawyer
    @amandahsawyer 3 місяці тому

    really still can't give up on 'covid' science?

  • @debbiewright8452
    @debbiewright8452 4 місяці тому

    We know whats really going on. Come on...

  • @lmg7503
    @lmg7503 4 місяці тому

    We have lost our labour and con we need Reform. We need a party that goes the peoples way

  • @leviathon2
    @leviathon2 4 місяці тому

    It’s not Boris, it’s Johnson. Theresa asked me to point that out.

  • @richardcoppack5357
    @richardcoppack5357 4 місяці тому

    Refreshing honesty from the interviewees. The government's awful record shows that they should step aside. Sunak is decent and hard working but we need a government to deliver.

    • @stephenhill545
      @stephenhill545 4 місяці тому

      Decent? He's pandering to the far right, and demonising the ill.

  • @virginicaanderson1569
    @virginicaanderson1569 4 місяці тому

    Tory party delenda est

  • @scillyautomatic
    @scillyautomatic 4 місяці тому

    Much better. I can hear it now.

  • @gordonsmith7885
    @gordonsmith7885 4 місяці тому +1

    Things can only get better..Vote Labour

    • @lakedistrict9450
      @lakedistrict9450 4 місяці тому

      I don’t trust Starmer. My feeling is he is a neocon approved individual who is likely to follow the US into more trouble. He not a socialist, rather what used to be called a Tory wet?