Tory Turmoil After Local Elections + South Africa’s Future Hinges On Wide Open Election

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  • Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
  • Is the Conservative brand damaging their politicians? Is Sunak playing into Starmer's hand? What do the UK's local election results mean for the upcoming general election? Who is the SNP's new leader? What’s going on in South Africa?
    Join Rory and Alastair as they answer all these questions and more on today's episode of The Rest Is Politics.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:42 Best case the Tories could have made following local election turmoil
    06:31 How local elections effect general elections
    11:02 Rumours can help turn the vote
    13:28 Difference between local and general elections
    17:46 Message of the local elections
    19:31 SNPs new leader and the future of the Scottish National Party
    24:40 Break
    24:49 Nancy Pelosi interview segue
    27:44 Emannuel Macron's interview in The Economist
    31:42 Macron's mission
    42:57 South African politics 30 years since Nelson Mandela was inaugurated
    48:10 South Africa's history
    52:15 Football Academy rebuttal
    53:36 Rory's news & Outro

КОМЕНТАРІ • 284

  • @rodbenson5879
    @rodbenson5879 21 день тому +83

    Rory made me laugh when he said something along the lines "the two problems I have with Macron vision is its style and its substance" Ha, Ha that truly sounded comical a bit like "there are only 2 things I don't like about rainforests, rain and forests."

    • @howmanybeansmakefive
      @howmanybeansmakefive 21 день тому +6

      Haha! He has the public school debate team energy of knowing how to stall for time, and make a random thought/argument seem more systematic than it actually is.

    • @restispolitics
      @restispolitics  21 день тому +18

      😂😂

    • @user-ob4wo9po2y
      @user-ob4wo9po2y 21 день тому +3

      He is also rather petty when he says Labour should have done better. He knows full well that the Tories don’t care about Gaza and that many Labour voters are Muslims who have been upset with Labour rather than the government.

    • @idoshulman6379
      @idoshulman6379 21 день тому +1

      ​@@user-ob4wo9po2yDidn't he say that that wasn't necessarily his case just the case that the tories could make?

    • @lukedaniels7750
      @lukedaniels7750 18 днів тому

      @@user-ob4wo9po2y I don't think that is petty. Labour should have walked these elections with a landslide, but the numbers just did not cut it. I suspect they will win with a very small majority.

  • @andrewpaulhart
    @andrewpaulhart 21 день тому +8

    So refreshing to listen to informed intelligent people

  • @sherlockgnomes8971
    @sherlockgnomes8971 21 день тому +14

    The turn out numbers were really quite shameful. So many people complaining about our mayors/politicians and there was 30 percent of the population in my city who went out and actually voted..

    • @hgf4030
      @hgf4030 21 день тому

      Who really cares about the mayors and local councillors. They're pretty inconsequential really. People have busy lives. Most people only really care about general elections, and even then we don't have properly left wing politicians just a tory and tory lite option.

    • @06alepea1
      @06alepea1 12 днів тому

      Agreed. My work colleagues complain about roads, council tax etc and yet almost seem proud of the fact they never vote.

  • @gerhardaigner5108
    @gerhardaigner5108 21 день тому +25

    You are talking about change. What kind of change? Scotland and Northern Ireland want to be in the EU. So does now the majority of the population, especially the young generation. But nobody dares to raise the question.

    • @alanbarker2279
      @alanbarker2279 21 день тому +4

      Joining the EU will take a minimum of 10 to 15 years (but will happen). Raising it as a topic now would play directly into the RW dirty tricks department and make it more difficult to oust the Tories. Let's get Labour into power first, don't fall for the smoke the mirrors...

    • @hamsterminator
      @hamsterminator 21 день тому +1

      It's just seen as a toxic subject unfortunately, so they won't go near it. What I'm curious about is how Laboir will tackle the subject once in power if they hadn't mentioned it in their manifesto. Another referendum?
      It also opens up a Pandora box for revisiting every major referendum we've had, Scottish Independence being an obvious example, where frankly half the population are sick and tired of referendums.

    • @alanbarker2279
      @alanbarker2279 21 день тому +1

      @@hamsterminator It is a myth that you need to put something in the manifesto to enact it - the Tories did not say they would do something along the lines of the Rwanda Act. Labour will, however immediately make moves to bring us closer to Europe.

  • @mattbooth307
    @mattbooth307 21 день тому +11

    Tory line on "expected Labour to do better" conveniently forgets that local elections aren't the same as a general election. It doesn't matter if you vote Tory, Labour or whatever at the local elections because they don't make a huge difference or change how the country is run, so people don't vote as tactically or with a national mindset.
    So, the pollsters showing a 45%+ polling for Labour is much more likely.

    • @JerzyFeliksKlein
      @JerzyFeliksKlein 21 день тому

      I was thinking the same but the Tories did get punished for, you know, being Tory. But at the same time other parties may not have gotten as much of a boost as they will in the general election

    • @polyestermammoth740
      @polyestermammoth740 20 днів тому

      Absolute nonsense. Local election directly affect the way things are run in a very real sense. They impact the day to day- roads, bin collections, available facilities. It is politics at a local level where the machinations can be seen and felt in a very immediate sense. They matter.

    • @polyestermammoth740
      @polyestermammoth740 20 днів тому

      And I might add that the party who controls a council, therefore, really matters.

    • @lukedaniels7750
      @lukedaniels7750 18 днів тому

      It is difficult to analyse because different areas and councils are up for election, but in genereal I do think that Labour would have been looking for a better result if they want to achieve a landslide at the next GE. Many but not all people do vote the same way in local elections as they do in national elections.

  • @MatrixCL
    @MatrixCL 21 день тому +5

    Learning that Rory is a fellow vipassana meditator raised such a huge smile on my face. :D

  • @vthompson947
    @vthompson947 21 день тому +5

    Yet again demonstrating extraordinary ignorance and gullibility where the SNP and Scottish politics are concerned.

  • @SharonaPJ
    @SharonaPJ 21 день тому +7

    Unemployment is closer to 70%. What's happened in 30 years is that a black middle class has developed and it's THEM who are utterly disillusioned with the ANC. Alistair & Rory, you don't know very much about South Africa.

    • @kathrynlenz8368
      @kathrynlenz8368 21 день тому

      Actually their lack of information is terrifying

    • @platinummannequin
      @platinummannequin 6 днів тому

      Yes, I was a bit miffed at being told there are only 300 000 white people left in SA. It's actually more than 7% of a population of over 61 million people.

  • @DaveThrash
    @DaveThrash 21 день тому +43

    According to Wikipedia , South Africa's white population number approximately 4.5 million. Not 300 000.

    • @tmarritt
      @tmarritt 21 день тому +2

      Looks to be about right for the population of Johannesburg which would make sense along with the other numbers he was mentioning. The % works about about right mind.

    • @PMMagro
      @PMMagro 21 день тому +3

      Indeed. Given the total population of South Africa is roughly similar to the UK (60 million probably more now) 300 000 is obvioulsy wrong.
      It is not an (well) educated guess 300 000 but then follows the praise for the apartheid regimes economy :) WOW

    • @juliusdavies2005
      @juliusdavies2005 21 день тому +12

      @@PMMagro You need to be less fragile, he didn't praise the system of apartheid, he pointed out a fact regarding the decline of the GDP per capita in comparison to other countries over a 30 year period.

    • @northleedspoppa
      @northleedspoppa 21 день тому

      ​@@juliusdavies2005 no child
      He did
      You need to stop defending anything every embarrassing little right wing says
      Maybe you wouldn't seem so ridiculous then

    • @restispolitics
      @restispolitics  21 день тому +19

      @@tmarritt Correct, he is referencing Johannesburg

  • @DylanSargesson
    @DylanSargesson 21 день тому +9

    Very strange to have a segment debriefing your interview with Pelosi, before the interview with Pelosi has been published.

  • @benglishman
    @benglishman 21 день тому +33

    The big problem for Labour is that people are voting against the Tories and not for Labour. In a general election Labour will have to set out its full policy platform and pick a position that will motivate people to vote FOR them. If it's Tory light, a lof of people won't vote for that. If it's too socialist we know that this will fail too. It needs to be radical and ambitious and show a path to restoring the country after 14 years of Tory rule, whilst also achievable. Not an easy task!

    • @mowogfpv7582
      @mowogfpv7582 21 день тому +1

      Well this is the problem with treating local elections as a proxy for an imminent GE. You can't set out your full national policy platform because that exists to fill out the media grid during the GE. So your councillors are often going to the doorstep empty handed.
      This was one of Labour's less discussed problems from 2019. If we'd run an election on the same policy platform as 2017 then there would have been no big policy rollouts for the short campaign. So I think this was one of the reasons behind the disastrous "2017 on steroids" manifesto.

    • @rjScubaSki
      @rjScubaSki 21 день тому +5

      You are overestimating the populace if you think they won’t vote for Tory lite

    • @joshyman221
      @joshyman221 21 день тому +1

      I honestly don’t think they will properly outline their policies. It very much seems their main policy is just to point out flaws with Tories. It’s honestly incredible that it will probably work. Perhaps one of the clearest cases of why democracy especially in FPTP doesn’t work.

    • @LWQ15881
      @LWQ15881 21 день тому +4

      @@joshyman221so basically you’ve never read a manifesto? I know labour will put one out. The tories had the same manifesto for the last 3 elections in a row I can’t wait to see if they’ve even changed it and how many they can fool.

    • @marumaru6084
      @marumaru6084 21 день тому

      @@rjScubaSki Tory Lite being very high taxes and very very large numbers of low paid immigrants and of course more crime!

  • @mauromatos3124
    @mauromatos3124 21 день тому +18

    A proper discussion on the state of South Africa would take a lot more time than this podcast affords.

    • @Amanzi379
      @Amanzi379 17 днів тому

      They have got the basics right. Apart from talking up electricity in South Africa 😀

  • @TrevorBarre
    @TrevorBarre 21 день тому +5

    Comparisons with 1997 are inappropriate. It's a different world now.

  • @deviousdescent9010
    @deviousdescent9010 21 день тому +5

    I can't help thinking what a different place the UK and the tory party would be in today if Rory had been prime minister.

  • @LDNosteopath
    @LDNosteopath 18 днів тому +1

    Dear Alistair and Rory.
    I enjoy your podcast, and I would appreciate that when the manifests for each party have been released, if you would dissect each one so the general public can get a real understanding of what is being said and what is not being said in the background. Keep up the excellent work. Lazarus.

  • @mlinganimatiwane
    @mlinganimatiwane 21 день тому +7

    I love this show but you're out of your depth on South Africa by a Longshot.

  • @johnnyguitar6697
    @johnnyguitar6697 21 день тому +9

    On Macron: I've voted him in twice, and he generally gets the big picture right (minus that stupid comment on Taiwan, and the statist tendencies). But his staggering arrogance keeps doing him in. So many own goals, that undermine his policies, just because he can't help himself being arrogant and the smartest person in the room. Such a promise, such a shame he couldn't deliver more because he keeps getting in his own way. I will have to pin my hopes on Edouard Philippe, who I like much better anyway, for the next presidential election. Similar policies, without the gob.

    • @eddietemple2302
      @eddietemple2302 21 день тому

      how worried are you about the threat of Le Pen and/or Bardella in 2027?

    • @johnnyguitar6697
      @johnnyguitar6697 21 день тому

      @@eddietemple2302 I am very worried about Le Pen. She's been surprisingly clever, keeping a low profile and leaving it to JL Melenchon to stir trouble, while making her party look respectable. Especially at the Assemblee Nationale, where the RN MP's are very disciplined. She, or someone in the RN, has really professionalized the party. But don't be fooled by the more polished appearence: scratch the surface and it's still the same xenophobic undertones, compounded by basket case economic policies. Bardella is one to worry about for the future, in case she fails again in 2027.

  • @nigelbradshaw1948
    @nigelbradshaw1948 21 день тому +7

    Great coverage as normal. Completely agree that Teesworks is going to end in tears for the Conservative Mayor if theres a change in government. Also the integrity of BBC editorial control continues to decline, following the interview with SB which was just a leadership advert for her.

    • @DylanSargesson
      @DylanSargesson 21 день тому

      Obviously the next Labour government (or any government) shouldn't be making individual staffing decisions at the BBC - that would be an affront to their operational independence. But, Kuenssberg clearly needs to be convinced to resign, she's a rightwing Tory shill and doesn't even try to hide it at this point.
      Maybe we get her a job at GB News, or maybe a peerage

  • @MazzaEliLi7406
    @MazzaEliLi7406 21 день тому +4

    Agree about Ben Houchen/Free Ports/demise of local media. Cheers.

  • @ozen.m8161
    @ozen.m8161 21 день тому +1

    Can't wait for saint Stewart to come back from his retreat with seals licking his feet 😂❤

  • @tristancotton7222
    @tristancotton7222 21 день тому +8

    I think that Rory's 'Labour didn't do very well really' analysis is not great. I think that the Conservatives are seen as so unelectable that people were happy to vote for a large array of smaller parties, without the risk of a Conservative win to vote for labour. However, that situation is unique to local elections: in a general election, with more apathetic voters, the Conservatives will do even worse proportionally and Labour will scoop up all the Independent, Green and Lib Dem votes.

    • @nosuchthingasshould4175
      @nosuchthingasshould4175 21 день тому

      Stewart is still a Tory shill, using the otherwise interesting conversations as just a smokescreen to push Tory talking points.

    • @VesiustheBoneCruncher
      @VesiustheBoneCruncher 21 день тому +4

      Yes and no - I think there are plenty of areas where people will vote for whoever has the best chance of removing the Tory MP. In a lot of places that isn’t Labour.
      Grass roots subversion of FPTP.

    • @user-xg5ye6yn4s
      @user-xg5ye6yn4s 21 день тому +2

      ​​@VesiustheBoneCruncher I think this is true in LEs, but that won't hold at a GE. Those voters are going to return to both parties, mostly Labour.

    • @VesiustheBoneCruncher
      @VesiustheBoneCruncher 21 день тому +1

      @@user-xg5ye6yn4s well it will be interesting to see what happens.
      What Labour voters in areas where they are unlikely to be able to return a Labour MP need to ask themselves is - who do we want the official opposition to be? Whether they use it or not, that is the power they have in their grasp.

    • @mikewalker7366
      @mikewalker7366 21 день тому

      I thought Rory’s analysis was spot-on.

  • @SharonaPJ
    @SharonaPJ 21 день тому +4

    Julius Malema is 1 bullet, 1 farmer. That's the truth

  • @sudodrive
    @sudodrive 21 день тому +4

    Frankly I think the Tories are doomed by some considerable margin.
    I think they are just hanging on in the hope that something will turn up. However that’s a very flawed way of looking at it.
    What they should be doing is looking at the stuff they know is possibly ahead . IE the record number of boat crossings that’s likely this summer, the very unconvincing Rwanda plan, then possibly the biggest doozy of all Import checks, which has the potential to cause absolute mayhem.
    If voters see great big holes in supermarket shelves and the cost of food skyrocketing in the run up to Christmas, the Tories won’t be so much as toast they will be cremated.
    Sunak is a fool should have gone in March, failing that now, November is looking dreadful & if he tries to hold on until January he will have screwed over just too many voters.

    • @sfactory8253
      @sfactory8253 21 день тому +3

      I'm convinced sunak not only doesn't care about the country , he doesn't even care about the party . He will hang on to benefit his family. Good for the opposition.

    • @tinkertoiler744
      @tinkertoiler744 21 день тому +2

      @@sfactory8253that isnt sunak that is the party. Pm are just figure heads in the current cadre. The country is being rinsed, the politics is focused on optics. For all purposes the job the party has set out to do has been done. The next government will look awful due to the situation the uk is in. Loosing to labour is the best result for the conservatives.

    • @sfactory8253
      @sfactory8253 21 день тому

      @@tinkertoiler744 John major could have done with losing. On the off chance a change in government matters sunak is the worst person the Tories could have had to choose the date of the next election. If it's just all wef uniparty well no point in voting. So don't vote I say.

    • @sudodrive
      @sudodrive 21 день тому

      Spot on! Its the only reason he became P.M.

    • @garyh1572
      @garyh1572 20 днів тому

      The Falklands War "turned up" for Maggie.

  • @slicksalmon6948
    @slicksalmon6948 21 день тому +5

    One problem is that Labour still supports Brexit.

    • @lukedaniels7750
      @lukedaniels7750 17 днів тому

      That is a problem, but the Lib Dems do not and they did not get a huge swing their way.

    • @slicksalmon6948
      @slicksalmon6948 17 днів тому

      @@lukedaniels7750 That’s exactly what I find so interesting.

    • @lukedaniels7750
      @lukedaniels7750 17 днів тому

      @@slicksalmon6948 My opinion is that the subject was so polarising and caused so much strife that people are not in a hurry to revisit it. Just an opinion mind.

    • @slicksalmon6948
      @slicksalmon6948 17 днів тому

      @@lukedaniels7750 You certainly know better than I do, since I'm 3000 miles away in a different country. But, I can't help wondering if the left still supports the advertised goals of Brexit -- restricted immigration and money previously sent to the EU being applied to NHS. What they don't understand is that you don't get these things without significant issues. They still believe in the tooth fairy.

  • @youknow6968
    @youknow6968 21 день тому +9

    I would die for this country, I'm a little brown boy.
    Would farage, other than making speeches, or making money. I'm sure he thinks he's above loyalty, unless it suits his agenda.

  • @Louisefenner
    @Louisefenner 21 день тому +1

    The South African elections are giving many people in SA anxiety. We are hoping the ANC looses its majority which is quite likely. Problem then is - who do they go into coalition with? If it’s the EFF the country is screwed.

  • @danoneill8751
    @danoneill8751 21 день тому +3

    Regarding one club's rebuttal of the football academy system chewing up a spitting out 99% of entrants. The guy claimed "but we warn them that most wont make it, we make that super clear, and they still have a great experience [of training at football]". That's like claiming that payday loan companies are fine because they make the 6000% interest rates perfectly clear. Of course a teenager who has done nothing but watch football with his dad every day and thinks he's really good because he's the best in his class will think he will be the 1%, that's why grown adults still vote for the low-tax parties because they are convinced that they too will one day be super rich and don't want to pay more tax. They're children and they are having their youth taken from them for a lottery-chance-to-play-professionally, when they could be at school learning how to code up AI systems or build medical robots or design electric cars. The fact that you warn a hopeful child that they probably wont make it big is not an excuse for these awful institutions. I wonder if they present the parents with the statistics for the amount of the 99% of rejects that end up as permanent job-seekers compared to those who didn't waste their formative years training to kick balls about a field.

    • @JerzyFeliksKlein
      @JerzyFeliksKlein 21 день тому

      What's the alternative? Messi was rejected by many clubs and Barca took a gamble on him. Griezman was told he is too small. Kobe was told to forget about basketball because he will never make it.

  • @frodenordseth4519
    @frodenordseth4519 21 день тому +1

    What took you so long? I have been waiting for this for days 🤷‍♂️

  • @MazzaEliLi7406
    @MazzaEliLi7406 21 день тому +2

    Libraries = informal education in conjunction with google. In my youth Libraries were the only access I had to the broadsheets, financial publications (which have to report factually to stay in business) & to specialist publications. Now libraries also offer access to computers. Unions in the old days knew the value of lending libraries for the educationally disadvantaged. Arguably the need is greater now because educational standards have dropped even in my lifetime. Cheers.

  • @dividjones8107
    @dividjones8107 21 день тому +2

    Macron's watch is a Bell&Ross VI-92

  • @crl7413
    @crl7413 21 день тому +2

    We have a problem. China is buying up tech basics. "China's Ganfeng Lithium has clinched a US$342.7 million deal to raise its stake in one of the world's largest lithium projects in Mali"

    • @mediastudiesnetwork
      @mediastudiesnetwork 21 день тому +1

      Don’t worry, now we have Brexit we are a global player with much increase influence and profitable trade. 🤦

  • @rice4550
    @rice4550 18 днів тому

    The EFF is the only way forward for South Africa

  • @MazzaEliLi7406
    @MazzaEliLi7406 21 день тому +1

    Yup. Complacency is death.

  • @airborn51
    @airborn51 10 днів тому

    The general public’s opinion on conscription is rather irrelevant, since they won’t be the ones being recruited. Might be more insightful to poll the eligible population on this

  • @randomzebra1233
    @randomzebra1233 21 день тому

    Is this like a public school thing where the only holiday you could have was sitting in the quartermasters cupboard in silence for a few days? Cheerio, In all seriousness, Have a lovely reflective time Rory! :D

  • @ThomasBoyd-tx1yt
    @ThomasBoyd-tx1yt 21 день тому +3

    35 Scottish Labour councillors Glasgow what salary do get £60000 per year and expenses included Thomas. That includes SNP, Greens and Conservative 60 councillor in Glasgow city council. Awesome thanks. Debunked Historian he in Wales he given up politically on London. Reform UK party it actually won seats London Assembly. You vote SNP Scottish parliament election May 2026. SNP lose 30 seats UK general election in 2024. Did work for BBC in 1970's yes Thomas. Support STV voting system for all English local government elections. SNP hold 35 SNP MSP's. Have any dealings with Scottish parliament no. As Italian do care about it. 129 MSP's leave Scotland and me alone. Dump Brexit England London rejoin EU again Thomas.

    • @paulgilliland2992
      @paulgilliland2992 21 день тому +2

      Trying to read this comment and I would suggest you check your grammar.

    • @ThomasBoyd-tx1yt
      @ThomasBoyd-tx1yt 21 день тому +1

      @@paulgilliland2992 I am Italian citizen nurse. You can read writing on wall politically the Conservatives are finished they need time in opposition reflect on It. Conservative party spend 10 years in wilderness.

    • @grahamleiper1538
      @grahamleiper1538 21 день тому +2

      ​@@ThomasBoyd-tx1ytI'm honestly hoping they're gone for way longer. They've not won in Scotland since the 1950s, they've never won in Wales, they don't even stand in Northern Ireland.
      It's about time the English saw through them.

    • @stanby2712
      @stanby2712 20 днів тому

      Incomprehensible gobbledegook Q

  • @oitoitoi1
    @oitoitoi1 4 дні тому

    the "sadiq khan is losing" rumour was mostly put out by laura kuenssberg...what a surprise...

  • @darrenbullock9153
    @darrenbullock9153 21 день тому +1

    We live a political period of extremis. Too many politicians missing what's in front of their faces. If you take the common sense approach to any problem you can write policy around it. Ideology is for people unable to lead and for those who should far away from the levers of power. Sometimes the common sense answer isn't popular. If the communication is clear and concise people will still vote for something unpopular if they see its necessary.

  • @MalteHoeffken
    @MalteHoeffken 19 днів тому

    Have they made a bet on who can sidetrack the other guy more often?

  • @joyceflowershed
    @joyceflowershed 21 день тому

    Excellent as always 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @MazzaEliLi7406
    @MazzaEliLi7406 21 день тому

    Thank you.

  • @swapnil1181
    @swapnil1181 21 день тому +4

    Potato Buggramps was here

  • @Millie.com232
    @Millie.com232 21 день тому +1

    Alisdair Campbell will always be a creep no matter how much he tries to rehabilitate himself. For younger listeners look at his role in the Iraq war.

  • @sylviawillmot4365
    @sylviawillmot4365 21 день тому +3

    As regards Scotland you've left out the elephants in the room. Brexit and the damage it has done and the fact that more than 50% want Independence and want to rejoin the EU. Labour will suffer because of Gaza, Scotland supports Gaza. Labour do not want Independence they want to continue milking Scotland's wealth.

  • @theroomfloor
    @theroomfloor 21 день тому +4

    Great insights on local / general elections.
    Way off on SA. Waaaay off…

  • @lizbarker8995
    @lizbarker8995 21 день тому

    Brilliant Rory. Have an enlightened retreat 🙏

  • @goonerboz6023
    @goonerboz6023 21 день тому +1

    Me and my work colleagues and friends are going for the workers party which seems to have the working class as there main concern instead of the neo liberal labour party who dont like us

  • @fburton8
    @fburton8 21 день тому +3

    "Labour are not giving the progressive young voter much of a reason to go out and vote for them." That would include me, a 63 year old man.

  • @georgehel9920
    @georgehel9920 21 день тому

    Where’s the Mitsotakis interview, looking forward to it!

  • @paulmajerus8024
    @paulmajerus8024 21 день тому +2

    British citizens living abroad are now eligible to register to vote in UK general elections, regardless of how long they’ve been living outside the UK. I have lived in France since 2003 and lost my vote under the 15 year rule. I now have regained the right to have a postal vote in my former constituency of Dover and Deal.
    At the December 2019 General Election 233,000 overseas voters were registered. (This has since declined to 105,000 in December 2021 as overseas numbers tend to decline between elections.) The Government estimates the changes, ending the 15-year limit and allowing all British citizens previously resident to be eligible, will mean around 3.5 million British nationals living overseas would be eligible to register to vote. (If we all voted it would be the equivalent of 56 constituencies).
    Do you have any fix on how many registrations there have been, and whether this potentially huge number of new mature voters might have in the next election?

    • @georgethearle7612
      @georgethearle7612 21 день тому

      I left the UK when I was 9 and have never registered to vote, does this apply to me as well?

    • @paulmajerus8024
      @paulmajerus8024 21 день тому

      @@georgethearle7612 Unlikely unless you have a National Insurance Number and have worked in the UK but check out www.gov.uk/voting-when-abroad, the forms are very simple. The government information on the subject is surprisingly clear on the subject and I found the whole process remarkably easy which I had not anticipated.

    • @DylanSargesson
      @DylanSargesson 21 день тому

      ​@@georgethearle7612yes. You can register based on the address (you and) your parents lived at before you left.

    • @lukedaniels7750
      @lukedaniels7750 18 днів тому +1

      If you have voluntarily left the UK over fifteen years ago, I'm not certain that you should be eligible to vote in UK elections. Surely voting should be reserved for people who end up being affected by the results.

    • @astalavista_84
      @astalavista_84 17 днів тому

      That’s a stupid rule really, if you’re a British citizen permanently living abroad, why should you be able to vote on an election that won’t impact you?
      If you’re living abroad temporarily and intending to return to the Uk that’s different

  • @JackusGomux
    @JackusGomux 21 день тому +1

    I have a question/thought that I haven't heard anyone talk about as well: what is the effect of foreigners being able to vote in local elections but not general elections? I have a feeling that most Europeans, considering Brexit, are more skewed towards labour. So couldn't it be a significant amount of people that have voted for labour who are not eligible to vote in general elections?

    • @buzzukfiftythree
      @buzzukfiftythree 21 день тому

      Good point, although I’m not sure that there are sufficient numbers who fall into that category to make a significant difference to the result of the general election.

    • @JackusGomux
      @JackusGomux 21 день тому

      @@buzzukfiftythree in London 23% of residents are so foreigners without a UK passport. I am not sure whether all of them could vote in local elections, but assuming they are, that would already be 2 million voters!

  • @ricdontap1
    @ricdontap1 21 день тому +4

    "BBC Style independent Journalist's " Are you serious?

  • @tdtm82
    @tdtm82 21 день тому +1

    18% is the first official quote of stats I've heard from the Muslim vote and that's also a lot better than I anticipated as. It is interesting that it was not as much damage as I thought it would be. Sadiq Kahn was democratic and assured in his campaign. Susan Hall was a car going up in flames in an animal shelter.

  • @fionaholland9191
    @fionaholland9191 20 днів тому

    Good luck with your vipassana Rory.

  • @ICEFREEDOM
    @ICEFREEDOM 19 днів тому

    With 10 million voters ? in London... did only 2 million vote in the Mayoral election ?

  • @alanhankinson9598
    @alanhankinson9598 21 день тому

    Great to ''see'' in addition to ''hear''.

  • @ianvonmemerty6502
    @ianvonmemerty6502 21 день тому +1

    SA Pop stats.
    Black 81 % 50 mill
    Coloured 8 % 5 mill
    White 7 % 4,5 mill (not 300k).
    Asian 2,5% 1,8 mill

  • @SweetSensi1
    @SweetSensi1 21 день тому

    I for one would love to see televised london mayoral debates and a more even representation of all parties. It shouldnt effectively be a 2 horse race.

  • @apedanticpeasant1447
    @apedanticpeasant1447 20 днів тому

    Interesting to see France going through decolonisation and loss of the associated income.
    It’s like the UK 30 years ago…

  • @alanhirsch1151
    @alanhirsch1151 20 днів тому

    More than 4 million whites in South Africa. Major error from Rory, pegging it at 300,000. The total number of whites is almost exactly the same as 30 year’s ago. But the proportion is greatly diminished.

  • @paulinegibson7010
    @paulinegibson7010 21 день тому +1

    Read Private Eye on Teeside and Ben Houchen.

  • @Evemeister12
    @Evemeister12 21 день тому +1

    Apart from the tees valley mayoral election, Labour did sensationally well.

    • @lukedaniels7750
      @lukedaniels7750 18 днів тому

      And Bristol. And Bolton. And Kirklees. And Oldham. Etc.

  • @peteratkin3788
    @peteratkin3788 21 день тому

    I'm no expert, and I'm really not, but I thought Labour was effectively at saturation point voter-wise. The people who could have been turned have been. The undecided will remain undecided until the GE. The only room I see for a reasonable swing is the young. Maybe some other oddities in the GE will show up, but they are unlikely to get significantly more voters at this point.

  • @Simon-zb6fp
    @Simon-zb6fp 21 день тому

    I couldn't understand why Wes Streeting was so spooked by the rumour that Susan Hall would win

  • @johnvaleanbaily246
    @johnvaleanbaily246 21 день тому +1

    What's going on behind the curtain !

  • @generationxpodcast3750
    @generationxpodcast3750 19 днів тому

    these two should run for number 10 downing street as independants id vote for them.

  • @jamescampbell-ux6lm
    @jamescampbell-ux6lm 18 днів тому

    Rory I think you will find the white population of SA is substantially larger than 300,000 and closer to 3.5 million

  • @rinkydinkfretboard8737
    @rinkydinkfretboard8737 17 днів тому

    A little bit disappointed/concerned about the “are we headed for hung parliament” headline on the podcast. I’m sure it’s been pointed out on this very podcast that the primary aim of such disinformation is to get the group that you’re spreading it about to deny it, thus amplifying etc. perhaps I’m over cautious and It should be addressed. but couldn’t there be a slightly more sophisticated way of doing that without playing into the hands of the Tory propaganda machine quite so heavily? Just one guy’s observation. Apart from that niggle, great stuff as always……easily some of the best political commentary (on this channel) in the entire space. Thank heavens for people that care about the country and governance as opposed to pure grifting and power for power’s sake etc. a big thank you to both of you and your team.

  • @oldwaitekauri
    @oldwaitekauri 21 день тому +3

    Greetings from NZ. Delightful discourse ☺.

  • @FRM101
    @FRM101 21 день тому

    This business of a 'silent retreat' is officially the wealthiest behaivor Rory has ever displayed. Personally, I'd prefer the seals lick my feet.

  • @krisle90
    @krisle90 7 днів тому

    So, when are you interviewing Macron? 😊

  • @richardoldfield6714
    @richardoldfield6714 21 день тому

    Contrary to Alastair Campbell's advice for Labour, I would advise them *not* to pursue the 'progressive' left vote for 3 reasons: 1) Those voters will be much less likely to protest-vote Green in a General Election because more is at stake than in local elections; 2) Many young 'progressives' don't vote anyway (compared to older voters); and 3) gaining the moderate centre ground is much more key to winning the election - and for every 'progressive' voter gained (e.g. because Labour makes nods in the direction of transgender ideology, or 'diversity, inclusion and equality') Labour will likely lose a higher number of centre-ground voters.

  • @advocate1563
    @advocate1563 21 день тому

    Not the bully boy thanks.

  • @tomcarr1358
    @tomcarr1358 21 день тому

    Sweeping statements about the failure of brexit may be answered within Rory's closing remarks about Macron's idea for a supra national economic investment policy with the EU bank carrying all the risk. Rory then refers to individual countries that seem to be making more investment decisions on an independent basis.

  • @patrickjr11
    @patrickjr11 21 день тому

    Interesting point in the local elections. Woking no longer has any Tory councillors. Almost unbelievable but true. Last 4 lost their seats this time around. But, given the area has a well established Muslim community, it also lost the labour candidate that was up for reelection.
    Lib-dems are in a huge majority here, much like the Tory party 20 years ago.

  • @WestfaliaStuff
    @WestfaliaStuff 21 день тому

    I think Macron should be pressed on his France D'Afrique issue, and how that connects to the Russian issue.

  • @richardfinlayson1524
    @richardfinlayson1524 21 день тому +1

    Yeah well i dont think Starmer is really inspiring to people and i would guess that just like here in OZ a lot of traditional labour people do feel a bit betrayed by the Labour party moving away from traditional left wing views, the left is very misunderstood but i think people just want labour to stick up for working class people and be less infuenced by rich donors ,also Starmer has been dreadful on the issue of what is going on in Gaza , people on the left are very angry about that.

  • @ianrobson2803
    @ianrobson2803 21 день тому

    Try an 11 day retreat with your family, Rory!

  • @randonukperson6406
    @randonukperson6406 21 день тому

    Finally

  • @SharonaPJ
    @SharonaPJ 21 день тому +4

    It's NOT just Zuma....it's ALL of them

    • @jamonit7169
      @jamonit7169 21 день тому

      I'm astounded that lefties didn't think South Africa wouldn't become like the rest of Africa..

  • @grahamleiper1538
    @grahamleiper1538 21 день тому

    "Time for a change" would be losing Westminster and getting back in the EU.
    Just saying... 😁🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @tonyharding3013
    @tonyharding3013 21 день тому

    for international independent news correspondence's try feature story news

  • @dougtsax
    @dougtsax 21 день тому

    Too quiet. Please turn up the mics.

  • @JackP18
    @JackP18 21 день тому

    20 years on from the failed Annan plan referendum in Cyprus there are signs that neogitiations may start up again between the two sides. Ersin Tatar (Turkish Cypriot President) could be a very interesting guest for your leading podcast to discuss the Cyprus problem at this important time.

  • @grahamsmith5768
    @grahamsmith5768 21 день тому

    Tories and labour are full of it . High time for a absolute new different government. They need a chance.

  • @fenderek666
    @fenderek666 21 день тому

    Guys, your thoughts on Emily Elphicke. I honestly can't wait to hear what you have to say.

  • @ravindra7791
    @ravindra7791 21 день тому +2

    14 hours a day to sit in silence? I will suggest it to my wife 😂

  • @bipolarminddroppings
    @bipolarminddroppings 21 день тому

    The Tories won by 20% in the locals in 2008 and then couldn't win a majority in the general.
    Hence why you cant read much into then, people vote differently in locals...

  • @Fatsimbacat
    @Fatsimbacat 21 день тому

    Just asked AI about Rory's meditation practice it says you have to abstain from certain things during the ten day course including sex and killing, luckily for Rory you can get back to sex and......killing too after the course.
    I apologize if my previous responses caused any confusion. Let me address your question directly:
    **Can you continue killing after completing the Vipassana course?**
    The answer is **yes**. The abstinence from killing (and other behaviors) during the ten-day Vipassana course applies only during the course itself. After completing the course, individuals are free to resume their regular lives, including their usual activities.
    Thank you for seeking clarification, and I appreciate your patience! 🌿🧘‍♂️

  • @Bengully
    @Bengully 21 день тому

    As someone from Birmingham I'm going to push back on this Andy street love. The truth is he was all talk and actually did very little for the midlands apart from stealing credit from other people's. He boosts about improvements in transport but the tram lines had to be redone in the Birmingham city centre after only like a few months and we still haven't got a tram to Coventry. Also, anyone who's been to the area lately will know his claims on reducing homelessness is a straight up lie.

  • @mandyshanks2327
    @mandyshanks2327 21 день тому

    Reform represent a surviving Britain.

  • @kalaharisurfer9605
    @kalaharisurfer9605 21 день тому +1

    The DA will never form a coalition with the ANC

    • @kayess2634
      @kayess2634 2 дні тому

      Agree but it’s more that the ANC would never form a coalition with the DA - I think the DA would be up for it just to have some influence but know that it will never happen

    • @kalaharisurfer9605
      @kalaharisurfer9605 2 дні тому

      @@kayess2634 the DA would never form an alliance with the ANC their politics are way too different, the DA wants to rid the country of the ANC's incompetence and corruption it doesn't want to enable it.
      And the ANC will do anything that allows it to continue to flatten itself at the gravy troughs.

    • @kayess2634
      @kayess2634 2 дні тому

      @@kalaharisurfer9605 Oh, I know all that, I’m a 68 year-old white South African, I have a firm grip on my country’s politics and party motivations and I am clear in my mind that given the chance, the DA would, if invited by the ANC, agree to a coalition with obvious caveats in place - the issue as far as I can see is that it is the ANC who would never issue that invitation so the matter is academic. I remain firmly of the view that the DA would be interested in a coalition if it was on offer. We must agree to disagree.

    • @kalaharisurfer9605
      @kalaharisurfer9605 2 дні тому

      @@kayess2634 yet in the past when the possibility to form a coalition with the ANC was available the DA made no such attempt.
      So despite what you seem as having a firm grip on SA politics the actual reality conclusively shows otherwise.

    • @kayess2634
      @kayess2634 День тому

      @@kalaharisurfer9605 And there I was trying to keep the chat civil but you just couldn’t resist, you had to be negative about me personally. Hope you feel better for it. You need to learn to have a debate and not veer into slagging somebody off just because you don’t agree. And since you’ve dragged us into that territory, ‘actual reality’ is verbose.

  • @williambaker5670
    @williambaker5670 21 день тому

    Two points lots of people voted tactically to stop the tories. I knew my Labour candidate could not win but when it comes to the general election I will vote Labour. BBC style independent jounalists? Sadly i have not believed this for a long time- just watch Laura Kuenssberg talking about Labour/ Keir Starmer.

  • @P--B
    @P--B 21 день тому

    Macron might actually be the kind of politician who generates cynicism towards politics. His rhetoric is directly in contradiction to his actions. He talks about support for Ukraine, but supports much less than eg Germany. He talks about reducing EU bureaucracy while he has made little progress on French government bureaucracy. He talks about about EU strategic autonomy, but undermines it by making it Franco centric...

  • @tropics8407
    @tropics8407 21 день тому

    The lower the turnout the better for Labour 🙄🤷‍♂️

  • @rinkydinkfretboard8737
    @rinkydinkfretboard8737 17 днів тому

    11:38 can someone explain to me why anyone, never mind a gov’t minister’s investment company shorting the national currency hasn’t been made illegal yet. Talk about game theory, and setting conditions to incentivise.

  • @cgdimension
    @cgdimension 21 день тому

    Labour should be rejecting these tory defectors, otherwise they will just end up being the tory party, why would i vote labour if it means I end up with tories, let them join reform

  • @northleedspoppa
    @northleedspoppa 21 день тому

    Lol how can anyone take slow Rory seriously

  • @jonw9417
    @jonw9417 21 день тому

    I'd pay good money to see Alastair vs Cummings. Double if it was in the boxing ring.

  • @ppetal1
    @ppetal1 21 день тому

    Labour Party will do far worse, I hope. Mandelson is rather soiled.