Dragon Ball GT is WEIRD
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- Опубліковано 22 чер 2022
- Hey guys, I finally uploaded another video! Sorry if the editing seems a little off for this one, not that it's ever ON, but I tried to work around not getting copyright claimed so here’s hoping it's not too bad. Also, I use the term “saga” and “arc” pretty interchangeably, so if you don’t like it, then just remember that I’ve actually never seen an episode of Dragon Ball so I don’t know what I’m saying. Also, the reason there was an Xbox controller in 1996 is because that scene is not cannon and is a part of the EU. It has nothing to do with me being a dumbass. Hope you like the video!
Also, I very stupidly forgot to give credit to Bulby for their fabulous 8-bit rendition of the GT intro. Link to the channel is right here, so check out their other awesome retro remixes! / bulby - Фільми й анімація
To be fair regarding silly names, Nappa is literally a cabbage, and Freiza is named what he is bc Toriyama thought the fridge was like the boss of the vegetables
Yeah, that's true
My favorite is the Capsule Corp. family being named to underwear. Had a distinct memory when I was a kid, and my older brother was introducing a girl (possibly his gf) Dragonball Z to her with arts of Trunks on the computer. She said "Trunks was it? I like to see him in his trunks"
Gohan means rice or the midday meal, Goku and Goten are named partly in reference to that. Minor character Lunch and first arc villain Emperor Pilaf from early Dragonball is based around that theme. Oolong, Yamcha, and Puar are all named for tea. Piccolo and all his early minions are named after musical instruments...heck, minor good guys include _Mr. Satan_ and his daughter who is an anagram of _Devil_ . Characters whose names aren't silly are the exception in Dragon Ball, that's for certain!
Trunks ? Briefs ? Lol no i can't complain much about names anywhere in this franchise .
Yh but all the saiyans are named after vegetable, and isn't "king cold, cooler, frieza" following a name pattern too?
It's one thing to have a patter for naming things and another for naming a character "baby" 💀
I like how Vegeta grows as a person and the first thing he does is steals Nappa's moustache.
Nappa was his mentor and his or his dad's retainer
@@dansmith1661 And he ruthlessly eviscerated him💀
@@gwynbleidd7177 I’m 7 years late but thx
@@user-nn1fx1nc7e what can you do with someone who has more ego than bªlls
@@gwynbleidd7177 MUSTAAAAACHE that was the first thing that came to my mind
Ah yes, the silly names that ONLY GT had. Because Pilaf, Garlic, Cabba, Granolah, Oatmeel, and Gas are completely serious and should never be mistaken as silly names.
Don’t forget Nikki or Turles
Demon king piccolo, the evilest of woodwind instruments!
He has a first order cutout… what more needs to be said
Only one here that genuinely is dumb here is Granola
@@Fun_tbh oatmeel and gas don’t make the cut? lol
The animators always hated drawing Cell because of all the spots in his design
It’s those huge ears and tail!
Who told you that
@@MrLachapellquite literally Toriyama himself lmfao
@@silver-ly tori hated drawing it i thought, not the animators
Z Vegeta: "I'm a saiyan pride is everything"
GT Vegeta: "Juice me bulma"
300 g machine that Bulma made it?
Ssj4 would do it, huh? Way to go kakarott, Rub it in why don’t you
@@CARNEIRAUM Yes. Bulma/Dr. Briefs made him a training room, which facilitated his PUSHING HIMSELF HARDER to achieve greater power through his own efforts.
A little different than being shot with a SSJ4 laser.
Did you forget about majin vegeta?
@@blackjackgabbiani19 It wasn't really a "SSJ4 Lazer" the machine just allowed him to become an Oozaru without his tail. He went through the transformation on his own.
Fun fact: It's narratively satisfying that Goku befriends the dragon that represents the Four Star Dragon Ball, because that was the Dragon Ball that Goku originally owned at the beginning of the series. He also has a deep emotional connection to the Four Star Dragon Ball because when he was little he believed that it housed the soul of his late Grandpa Gohan.
Yes obviously
No shit Sherlock
@@Pottasium92 lmao
@@Pottasium92 Christ
Are you sure about that?
I need to do some research and run some scientific tests. Brb
I honestly really liked the Baby arc because until EXTREMELY recently in terms of the story’s existence, they never really talk about the fact that the Saiyans are serious genocidal maniacs. Full stop. And I LOVED the idea that a victim got revenge
I also like how Baby literally became what he despised. Poetic irony.
@@coreytoomey7579 also that he NEVER realized that fact. So sure in his purity of mission he never considered any sort of moral quandary
@@KingCarnaTo be fair, the fact that saiyans were genocidal maniacs was at the very beginning of Dragon Ball Z. They talked about it immediately, when they introduced the Saiyans as a species. The Saiyans were the muscle in a universe spanning empire that invaded planets, ended all life on those planets, and then sold the planets to other space entities. From day one they were shown to be genocidal maniacs and nearly every time they were brought up in the past tense they were shown to be genuinely evil with evil hearts. GT expanded on the lore but there was never a single moment that the Saiyans of this universe were shown to be anything except for genocidal maniacs.
@@SkimpyJigglesJr.-ff2ibThat’s the point. Baby’s hung up on something in the past. His whole point is to get revenge for something long after it’s over. Vegeta acknowledged it but he didn’t deny the Saiyans doing what they did back then. He tells him, in his Vegeta way, to basically forget about it and leave Gohan’s body or else.
Think concept was great as you said the execution of that story was just wonky
Back in the 90's GT was awesome, it was like DBZ but not, with own things and different vibes overall ... I just love it even with all the flaws I believe the charisma behind its worth it
I couldn’t even get into GT as a kid.
Yea this is what i feel like too... it has a different charm to it maybe i have an affinity to 90s anime like Kochikame , and i enjoyed the animations and music very much even though the story might be objectively not well executed but they have the foundations....
I loved GT, and I still do. I'll need some time to articulate the rationale behind it . . . if at all there is any, besides that when I watched it, that was it, that was the end of Dragonball, period.
Until we meet again
I loved GT back as a kid, too. Especially the SSJ4 design was so hype.
Gt was not available in the US in the 90's quit playing
I always loved that the tails were necessary to turn ssj4, and since Goku was wished a kid, Vegeta had Bulma scientifically grow it so he could turn ssj4
In the Japanese language version SSJ4 is referred to as "perfect Saiyan", meaning you have to be pure blood, able to turn Super Saiyan, and able to control yourself enough in Oozaru form to activate Super Saiyan.
@@robertgardner7478 Dang. I didn't know that. Best form ever, man. I'm telling you.
@@robertgardner7478 "Sūpā Saiya-jin Fō"
Maybe i didn't understand but they don't call it like that, also i think that's fake
@@robertgardner7478
What??
@@haimarrrr
Monkey Butt 4: Yellow Apeshit goes bananas!!
This was GT in a nutshell.
Another positive for the baby arc is, the more unhinged baby get's overtime.
He goes from a very smart villain with motives, to being the one thing he hates.
A "sayian" invading another planet.
"Get's"?
Please explain to me how "get" can be possessive or what contraction "get's" is representing?
Can't wait to hear this one lol
@@YearsOVDecay1 imagine being this much of a prick over a typo 🤡
@@YearsOVDecay1 people like you take the grammar 💩 overboard. 346 liked the comment and you put emphasis on a an apostrophe 🤣
What a clown.
@@YearsOVDecay1 wtf?
@@YearsOVDecay1 another idiot vorrecting grammar when his own grammar is flawed. Jesus, what a loser.
The end credits for the second to last episode is iconic, depicting every major moment in Gokus life. Everytime I see it always makes me tear up a little.
Dan dan .....
It's been 26 years
Second to last? That IS the last episode....
Rest in Peace Akira Toriyama 🕊️
This is the kind of content that feels like old school UA-cam.
I've been missing out
I always find funny how the entire world either dislike or completely ignore DBGT while it’s the one of the most loved and adored anime in South America. No joke, my sister had the opening playing in her wedding.
Creo que solo amamos la musica... no se si pensamos lo mismo de las historia lol
Yo vi la serie más de diez veces la última vez hace dos o tres años jajaja
Yo no sabia que todos eran re fans de gt, yo pense que siempre fue z la gran cosa.
@@MARLBOROBASTARD creo que la Super nos hizo apreciar la GT más.
Pero la GT tiene ideas excelentes, el problema es la ejecución
Have you ever heard the English opening of GT?
Imagine playing that shit at a wedding.
LMAO!!
For me, I found Dragonball GT as a little kid when I was trying to download Dragonball videos and use Limewire (which was hard as hell back then). I found clips of the battles in Japanese and had no clue what it was! GT was not in the U.S. back then. So I came to love it because I watched those clips thousands of times! As a little kid, we were still in the Feieza Saga, whereas I was watching Goku go from Golden Ozaru to SSJ4. It has a fond place in my heart. Don’t care about the hate people have for it. It exists and I am grateful for it! 🔥
Likewise man, I remember watching DBGT on my grandpa's laptop when I stayed with them in the afternoon after morning school. Special
R.I.P. Akira Toriyama
One thing no one ever seems mention is that the Trunks in GT has the same exact personality as the one in Dragon Ball Z despite the fact they are actually two different characters. Future Trunks developed his personality because of the hardships he had to face due to the androids. Whereas the present Trunks was kinda bratty and acted sort of like Vegeta. It's not unbelievable that GT Trunks would become more humble as he grew up, but it still doesn't warrant him becoming the exact same character as future Trunks. It would've made sense if he grown up to be a little more arrogant and preppy. I think if they wanted a nice, mellow and humble character, Goten should've filled that role.
I mean, between the events of GT and Z a long time passed (10-20? from the ending epilogue of DBZ) and it's implied that almost everyone just kinda stopped fighting and went on to live regular lives, Trunks is the leader of some corporation, Gohan is a hard-studying Nerd, and Vegeta softened a little bit to become a household dad. Maybe going for so long without fighting made everyone softer and less aggressive and arrogant, especially Trunks, who had other responsabilities to attend to
@@nainorotodoxTheir point is that GT Trunks is exactly like Future Trunks, when he shouldn't be. Your comment is "Well the reason this Trunks is different is because he didn't fight as much" when the point is that they're not different at all. GT Trunks shouldn't be like Future Trunks because GT Trunks is a nerd and Future Trunks was a warrior.
@@SkimpyJigglesJr.-ff2ibWell then.. that’s the difference? Albeit both are nerds. GT Trunks is just more nerdy than his counterpart. On top of that, what Shrek said makes sense.
He took over a part of his *genius* family’s corporation. And was already clever with some wit. I’m pretty sure we can put two and two together and make four words for how he became what he is.
Isn't that the solution to the cannon it's gt is just the continueation of future trunk if they had namakian dragonballs so they didn't need to travel back in time
Ngl bro I don’t think GT trunks acts like future trunks at all…
I really like the concept of the evil dragons. They really do rely on dragon balls do much, and, with all the universe altering they do, you'd think they actually WOULD build up some sort of negative energy. I'd love to see super borrow this.
especially after seeing the super hero movie, that shit bulma does can't be good lmao
@@kaiderhaiii it’d be hilarious to see a flashback to the super hero movie explaining how bulma’s wishes brought the evil dragons upon them
@@kaiderhaiii that bbl booty tho 😂
Super has already borrowed a lot of non-canon content from the movies so it's not unlikely they'll tackle some GT stuff as well.
Why does the energy build up have to be negative? In a world where bullets are basically spit balls to trained humans and magic and ghost exist, how much a transgression would altering reality really be? I think people just aren’t honest, the audience doesn’t want a quick fix button. If they simply made Dragonball a like nukes it that’s an easy fix but there’s too many fictional solutions to act like grounding it to real world would be the best option….sorry you’re not the first to think of this so I’m prepared
The cutaway of pan and that deer had me laughing so damn hard 🤣 great video man!
2:33 hearing the Abridged Vegeta screaming was always my favorite 🤣
At least GT ended the show
Ended so boring
@@chinchingarcia7311 ur opinion
To me it ended very heart breaking
@@hbshadow8981The only part I would take out would be the dragon and keeping him a kid. Also they seated up another story with Goku, Goku and Vegeta Jr.
@@chinchingarcia7311 po
Damn take that Akira Toriyama
A mistake I made when rewatching was not having the Japanese music while watching the dub. because the English music of gt has like 4 tracks just repeated on every episode where as the Japanese music has more variety.
You really stressed that? Lmao!
I actually thought the English soundtrack was good. The problem was that all the tracks sounded very similar to each other and gave off the same tone despite the fact that GT has multiple tones to it.
But, due to the bleak and dark tone of Mark Menza's music, the stakes felt higher in all the serious moments, particularly the Baby saga when Goku achieves ssj 4 for the first time. I thought the music fit and set the tone for GT and its dark and dull world perfectly. With a plot that focuses on the corrupted dragon balls, the resurrection of a previously destroyed race full of hatred, a villain ruling over the planet, an adventure through the dark corners of the galaxy and and onslaught of dragons spawned by pure negative energy, that music felt like it was perfect for a show like this. After all, GT isnt all sunshine and rainbows like Super is. Take the destroyed future world scenes of the Goku black arc for example. If this music was used there, it would reinforce the idea of how messed up Trunks' world is, add more stakes to the fate of that world and make Goku Black seem even more menacing with his actions. The English music for GT was one dimensional in tone and while it was a good fit for most of GT, it still felt incredibly out of place for the light hearted scenes.
Where it fails though, is the majority of the first arc and parts in between other major arcs, due to the comedic scenes. Such dark and dull music seems very out of place in a scene where the characters are goofing around or acting casual.
So yeah, I think in the serious moments of GT that music is great. But in every non serious scene it feels very goofy and unusual.
Dan dan kokoro hikareteku is better than the grand tour. What was english dub thinking? So glad for the rerelease of GT box dub they had vic mignogna sing the japanese dub of GT
The mistake you made is that you watched it in dub. It is inferior in any way to the original. it's like watching any american movie in German.
@@igorkatic6144 You're cringe.
Dragon Ball GT is so nostalgic for me at this point.
Im 33 and I grew up watching Dragonball, I honestly dont know why a lot of people dont like Dragonball GT, for me this was still rad af, good oldschool animation and the storyline was great, loved the ending
Don't watch it now then or you'll reconsider...
The Baby arc and Super Saiyan 4 were solid additions in GT. The rest was very disappointing, though.
And that's why dragon Ball super copied baby
@@sqword11l Ginyu did it first, so not really.
What about omega shenron battle
@@Eleganblade I found the Shadow Dragons arc pretty meh except for the ending.
@@Tahmaysu LOL
I do think the animation is sometimes awkward but most of the time I see it more functional.
Not during fights. It’s horrible and makes everything feel stiff and stale. The lack of choreography makes it even worse
@@leultrainstinct406 have you watched GT?
@@leultrainstinct406 honestly the animation in GT is just as good as the original Z and the art direction is even better
@@leultrainstinct406 Um, I think you're talking about DBS lol. The character design and artwork may be off sometimes in GT, but the animation is mostly similar to Z. DBS is lacking in choreography lol DBS doesn't know how to storyboard and choreograph their fights. The best imo and cleanest is when Goku, Frieza and 17 vs Jiren and that was at the end. MUI Goku vs Jiren was definitely better than most of Super, but it wasn't like amazing like other animes.
@@leultrainstinct406 I'm waiting for an answer lol
23:01
The scene where Vegeta got impaled by Omega’s spikes was by far one of the most memorable ones too. The gruesome sight of vegetas agony was a nice detail of seriousness to the show. 10/10 💯
In the 1995 SNES game, Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrals there is a town you come to that is a victim of frequent earthquakes. later, in a cave that leads to an underground river, you find a giant catfish that's causing the earthquakes.
it's nice to see this was directly ripped off.
As a kid I still liked it. I never thought it was as good but the highs were damn high. Baby had awesome designs, SSJ4 looked iconic and hasn't been surpassed in any of DBS transformations.
Yup, GT did have more solid transformations than a dye job.
Check out legend dbz fan animation. Got me so hype for a fan concept man..
It was somenthing when we depended on TV
The only problem was turning Goku into a kid and ruining gotten
@@pearcehubbart3767 Even AF had better forms, lel
One of the highlights of GT is that Vegeta developed more further and he wasn’t in Goku’s nor his dad’s shadow and considers him as a friend
This era is when I grew up. Late 90s, early 2000s and man do I remember how cool Japan was to us. They had so much stuff that took YEARS to arrive to the US, let alone Europe in many cases.
Imagine if today, in 2024 Japan got a new Dragon Ball show and it took 6-7 years for us to get it dubbed. Imagine not even a Japanese release wjth subtitles. Imagine just hearing about it and stories but never seen it. And for years you read artitcles or see stuff in magazines, websites, etc. And finally one day we get it.
Wild times. Now anything can be imported so easily and with the internet, any fan can decide to do their own dub if needed lol. It might not happen a lot but my point is it's possible. And long before anything like that, we now get full descriptions, trailers, videos, subbed episodes all before a dub sometimes. But at least you get a lot. Before you simply had stories until someone showed proof.
8:45 "Peoples who fought against Frieza, Cell and Majin Buu..." Goku with a kid body? Pan hadn't been born and Trunks just fought against Buu, who are these people you talk about?
The ending and tribute to Goku in GT is one of the most heart warming and emotional tributes you'll ever see! It makes men cry.
I must be the only one who didn't like the ending. The GT movie was supposed to be how it actually did
@@falconeshieldYeah
@@falconeshieldbig tripping.. GT ending is how DBZ and SUPER should/should’ve ended .. especially the Latino dub , omg it’s one of the best anime endings especially for DRAGON BALL
GT is the opposite of Super.
GT: Great ideas (usually); poor execution.
Super: Boring ideas; (usually) competent execution.
Certainly if one tried to *fix* one of these shows, GT would be the easier fix.
Some better names (Baby), cut some crap out (50% of black star dragonball hunt arc, all of super android 17), a few better character designs (Vegeta Baby looks kinda dumb), and a better soundtrack would go a really long way into making GT good.
Fixing Super on the other hand, I mean, I'd have to scrap practically the whole show. The ideas weren't botched, they're just bad.
uh- no??
@@MattsAlive What do you mean?
@@Vi-ob1yu I really enjoyed the goku black arc in super ,it wasn't bad
@@Vi-ob1yu the japanese soundtrack for gt is arguably the best soundtrack in the series in my opinion. funimation butchered gt and even trolled fans of the japanese version of gt with this ua-cam.com/video/IMzkRB2YT1s/v-deo.html
Initially I didn't appreciate GT because of how high a bar Z set, but honestly I respect that GT tried to be ambitious in its story telling. Dragon Ball Super resorted to bringing back dead villains whose storylines were already completed (Frieza) and relying on Goku and Vegeta just like Z did.
dragon ball super made new transformations for the hero and dragon ball super made more universes that have yet to be fully explored.dragon ball is gokus story so ya they are going to focus on goku a lot that is not a bad thing. vegeta is a good supporting character that does not get nearly enough screen time.
We literally had Superhero Movie recently focussing on PICCOLO AND GOHAN lol
You forgot to mention one important thing - GT has THE ending. The final episode sets the bar so high, that even Z cannot reach that peak👍
That Vegeta moment was amazing
It's nice to see how much he cares about the earth and everyone else after living there for so long
I love how Vegeta told both his son & Goku's sons that it's their responsibility as saiyans to finish what they may not be able to finish themselves. Uub gets to be their overseer of the family.
my brother and i used to be obsessed with dbgt bc we had a vhs tape of like 3 eps i think . ver y nostalgic and il ove vegeta . rip akira toriyama
Wholesome analysis. I love your humor, the intro with Puar was great.
To be fair, what you didn’t like about the show wasn’t the animation. It was the art style. The animation is specifically about the shows movement and fluidity visually, while your complaint about cell and frieza in that episode was more about how their faces looked. And don’t get me wrong, I hate the way they look in GT. Dr. Gero too. But it isn’t the animation that’s to blame.
You're right! I guess I shouldn't have clumped it all together as just saying the animation. Thanks for the feedback :)
No movement is only a part of animation. Animation is all of the shit you see. If you just mean movement then just say movement or you’re being misleading intentionally
They used to reuse animations as well just like DBS and Z. I'm not sure OG DB
@@fridaynightnicktoons6885 You sure? I looked up the meaning of animation, and it only retains to something’s movement, not movement and appearance. Where’d you get your definition from?
@@fridaynightnicktoons6885 you are wrong, animation is movement
I'm glad someone else noticed how good they treated Vegeta in the show even in moments that i didn't like, like how he got ssj4, but he matures really well and noticably and i really liked it.
This was mad good my dude, I'll definitely b keeping up with your stuff!
Here's a few questions about the Blackstar Dragon Balls...why didn't Kami/Piccolo just destroy them if they were so dangerous? And whats more, how is it that Bulma's dragon radar NEVER detected them? We see later on that they show up on the radar, so how is it that her radar missed them each and every time she was at the Lookout? Also how did Emperor Pilaf and his gang get up there in the first place? Wsan't it made clear early on that unless the Earth's Guardian allowed it that no man made vehicle could safely reach the Lookout? Also...How'd they even find these Blackstar Dragon balls in the first place? Lastly once they were regathered, why not go to a uninhabited planet and use the balls there to restore Goku to normal and kill two birds with one stone? The balls would be safely scattered across the galaxy and whats more there'd be little to no danger of anyone ever gathering them again.
You put more thought into it than Toriyama ever did. "Rules" like "no manmade vehicle can reach my domain as I am in control of every aspect of it" are very Journey to the West coded. They matter for the episode they are spoken in but otherwise don't exist.
20:21 the look of disgust mixed with genuine despair on his face made me laugh more than it should
the ending of GT was absolutely amazing, I meant the song, and the flashbacks, really made tear up as a kid. They didn't do Vegeta any justice in my opinion, Super did, Vegeta would never use technology to reach a new form, never, he will work his butt off to achieve it, that's what I liked about him in the first place
Vegeta wouldn't cry about not achieving ssjg of his own effort if he was chosen
Like he had that kind of time. At this point in the series, what do you think matters more to him? His pride or his family?
@@bongchoof the worst thing about dragonball are vegeta fan gays
@@jefftakesdscakes30 Well...I am a Vegeta fan...and I am gay. So 2 for 2 there buddy! Good job!
@@jefftakesdscakes30 lol, because the other characters get so much character development in super right, Goku became a complete idiot bent on getting stronger, gohan became a weakling who sweats when he flies, the other characters are made redundant, Vegeta has the best character arc by far! He achieved all the gods forms himself, he didn't need 5 other Saiyans as a ceremony
Love the ending, I subscribed! Hope you reach 9K soon!
Awesome video bro. Took me back to my childhood when I watched GT.
I like how GT ends and almost comes full circle with the entire franchise.
It would have changed a lot for me if Goten hadn’t of been left out of the trip with Pan just sneaking on with them instead of leaving him behind. Would have been a cool way for Pan to develop a relationship with her uncle while he is with his best friend Trunks and has more building scenes between him and Goku since there were so few in Z.
Would’ve loved to see them fuse
@@souljamarx Aw man, that was one of the unforgivable sins of GT to have an adult Goten and Trunks with no adult Gotenks.
I personally think that the writers for GT had no clue what to do with Goten in GT which has been an issue since Goten first appeared. The writers in Z did nothing with Goten except have him be Goku's clone baby. In Super he was relagated to the role of Trunks' sidekick. Even when you think that something should be happening to Goten and Trunks in Super nothing ever does! Toriyama even forgot that they weren't 7 or 8 in Super like they were in Z and it wasn't until Super Hero that the boys got a redesign. They literally went from being 7 and 8 to being 14 in the blink of an eye.
Long story short, the entire franchise has never done anything with Goten so you can't really blame GT.
@@Charles_Anthony nah, Goten is still the youngest super saiyan. The son of Goku who not only had the son of Vegeta as a best friend but then introduced the first fusion character in the series that went SSJ3 as children just from watching Goku do it once. The only other canon SSJ3 character even now. Far more than just a clone. The foundation for both of their potential was set and the argument back then was Goten got too much love and didn’t have struggle for accomplishments. So, in GT and Super I believe they listened and wish to have him go through struggles with humanity like lust and laziness before releasing the potential established from his inception. GT failed because it never had anything that came after his human desires to distract him. Super still has a chance.
@@youtubeisntthesame529: You can't argue that Toriyama forgot about the boys in Super though so not much hope that they'll get any real development since the movies aren't canon. Don't be surprised if they go from being teen back to kids.
Hey mate, what a good intro, what an awesome video, I really enjoyed watching it
Thanks for the video mate. Excellent writing and great production quality. It’s the perfect succinct summary of a full season of a show and it’s the kind of UA-cam content that makes my day ❤
Thank you so much for the compliment! I am really glad that you liked the video!
Any chance of more Dragonball content??
@@sleepythumb Absolutely :)
When I rewatched GT recently, I think the intent was to combine the weirdness that everybody loved from OG Dragon Ball with the Action that made Z popular, but in the end, it became a mess. I still like the show though.
Agreed, the way GT constantly uses elements from the original Dragonball is one of my favorite things about it. Even SSJ4 combines the SSJ of Dragonball Z with the Great Ape from Dragonball.
You can tell they put one episode in charge of some weirdo because there's a scene where a deer sucks on one of Pan's nipples to get milk
Seeing as GT has a lot of great ideas but are terribly executed. I feel that the people in or at least some of them had the right intentions but then they got bombarded with studio interferences just like in Hollywood.
I'm inclined to believe the Black Star Dragon Balls were made expressly for the purpose of keeping the number of wishes on the OG balls at 7 for the Shadow Dragon Arc.
I feel like they went way over 7 anyway but it was an excuse to have them chase dragon balls across the galaxy since anything on a single planet would be a day-trip at that point
"Isn't this a kids show?"
GT: *literally kills off most of the main characters, gives one of the villains a gruesome death and had a depressing ending*
The original direction for GT was to take the franchise back to it's roots and make it more adventure focused like DB. After seeing how low the tv ratings were, plans for later episodes were scrapped and they decided to make it more action focused like DBZ, that's why the tone changes around episode 16.
The Shadow Dragon saga was written once it was clear the series would not be renewed for another season, so it was written to be an ending for the franchise as a whole.
All these last minute changes is probably why there are so many issues with the pacing and animation.
When I first saw GT as a child, incompletely, beginning from the baby arc, I kept it in nostalgic memory. After rewatching it quite recently I have to admit, it's not nearly as good as this show could have been. But even with all this critizisms, I think it is not a complete waste of time when you're a DB fan. I mean, the way they developed Goku and Vegeta is simply so different from Super and ultimately makes sense in many aspects. Especially Vegeta is quite enjoyable and gets better care than in some DBZ movies etc. It's not even close to DBZ, yes, but it's not bad if you jump over this or that episode I think. ^^
Well said brother
Honestly the character development is 20 times better in GT than Dragon Ball Super they completely killed the characters Goku is a complete idiot and I struggle taking him seriously the whole series I hate that aspect of Dragon Ball Super
@@Tj-pq4jo maybe you forgot GT’s Goku, but he definitely wasn’t much of a fighting genius like in Z. The fight against Baby in Ssj4 is nice but not in the same universe (literally and metaphorically) with Goku vs Freezer/Cell/Boo. It’s an downgrade Goku in both follow up shows. But I agree that they made Goku particularly “young blood”-vibe in Super, whereas it was a ‘feature’ in GT.
But Akira Toriyama said he was done and only cause we as fans pushed begged pleaded and even pressured from across seas and in his country to bring back the series and he was basically telling you by doing as the fans wanted in speed and animation it would come out like this so given time he made an alternate dimensional version of Dragon Ball and now after this 2 nd movie of super he's again said no more let him be and you'll see DB fans
at least is not as bad as Super
I consider GT to be similar to the Star wars prequels.
they are very flawed but they did bring a lot of interesting things to the franchise they are a part of and I can't imagine the franchise without many of those things.
No the Star Wars prequels we’re much better than gt since the creator was involed in the prequels at least
Very flawed? No. They’re slightly flawed at best. VERY flawed would be dragonball super (anime,manga is better written,although I like both versions of dbs) or the force awakens/sequel trilogy in general….”….somehow palpatine returned”
Gt has no more flaws then z. Pt had no more flaws then the ot. But dbs and sequel trilogy? THOSE are VERY flawed!
@@Cousinbiddy1 dipshit toriyama WAS involved with gt. He did the base story of the first arc,all character designs and like the filler in DBZ he approved of the scripts and was a consultant. Only difference is there was no manga. Go in Kanzenshuu and educate yourself. Kids like you hating on gt but knowing nothing about it. Smh sad little troll.
Youre cracked bud. Super is the star wars prequel
@@XXMARIOXX-dk4po no it’s not
My thoughts on GT:
Good ideas, poor execution.
I personally hate the personality of SSJ4 Gogeta, they turned him into Vegito in GT when Gogeta is supposed to be the more serious fusion form.
I thoroughly enjoyed your commentary about GT. People normally just jump on the "GT sucks" bandwagon. Also I couldn't agree more about Vegeta in GT. He was such a nuance character that you have to see him become who he is in GT to deeply enjoy it.
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Nice username, it's rare to have that. Unless it's youtube, since iirc they allow having duplicate names now (so long as the email is still unique)
It really does suck tho. It’s the goku show pretty much the entire time and characters who have potential for development get shafted so goku could get all the moments. Stale fights that just spam ki blasts. Horrible villains besides baby. Inconsistent af. Etc
@@leultrainstinct406 we get it,you don’t want people to enjoy a show so you go to gt videos and bash em. You got like 24 comments bashing gt here. You want attention that bad? XD
@@leultrainstinct406 This seems more like DB Super to me.
20:26 there were HEAPS of really weird moments with Pan.
It IS anime after all, so...
@@Psycho-SsnakeFr, everyone hating on gt did not watch db or dbz
Thanks for this video. I saw GT as a teen when the internet started being able to host full episodes that could be streamed. I watched it all online. But its been years. I watched it in maybe 2006. I remember cool fights but don't remember the story. I think it's time I binge it all as it's finally on Crunchyroll and I just got the app (never watched anime much, I know lol)
From what I remember, Popo knew all the info about the black star balls. They weren't forgotten about, just quarantined because of how dangerous they are.
Can always respect a family man making DB content 👍🏽
I think they made Goku a kid so he’d be weaker so other side characters could get time to shine. Maybe at the start that was the plan
Agreed since he couldn’t hold some of his forms very long
@@jermaineallen2879 He couldn't hold ssj3 for quite some time. He could hold ssj and presumably ssj2 with no difficultly. It was just that ssj3 was too draining and his younger body did not help
Nope, the sole reason for kid goku form was to appeal to young audience
@Chocolate Sandwich thats how most things work. Pretty sure the thought process was "goku and his audience has grown up, how do we make him viable for kids show" and then everything else worked around that idea
No they wanted a kid Saiyan, but Gohan and Goten were too old, and pan is a girl so she's irrelevant to the mostly young male audience. Turning Goku into a kid was the cheapest, easiest fix.
I thought you filmed this like 2010 from the quality but its hilarous its from now i love it
Nice video. It's weird how you talked about the animation for GT for Cell and Frieza, when Super had the same issue earlier on the show; and how so many complained too. I'm also surprised you didn't talk about the Opening scene. Many hates it, but I love the song.
The catfish reference and episode is the kind of thing that works in Japan and just sounds weird outside of its bubble, but it’s not bizarre by any means. Look up o-namezu and you’ll find out there’s a legend about cat fish causing earthquakes in feudal Japan. I know you’re just poking the story for the video, but it’s something that doesn’t sound so weird if you know about it.
That's really interesting, I was unaware of that.
Great review and honest. I can respect that. There were parts that even I skip in GT (Lord Luud and Zoonama). Just too weird. Although, a majority of Dragon Ball "humour" is incredibly weird in general. I'm a huge fan of GT Vegeta and his progression. I could go on and on about why I love the Series but I'll just end it on this... GT ended on a high note. A mysterious, yet satisfying ending to Son Goku. Having the balls to wrap up his story when it was time to hang up the Gi. The final act is what stays with us in most things. And through the ups and downs, I'm happy with GT being the end to classic Dragon Ball.
It's not everyone's cup of tea and that's fine. But if you haven't, then definitely give the Original Dub/OST a shot before final judgement. It's the soul of the Series. And the only Dragon Ball Series that Akira Toriyama has publicly praised 3 times.
Until we meet again.
Nobody asked GTtard, ssj3 dbs goku solos GT effortlessly, deal with it🤣
Agreed
If there's a GT video you know good old saiyan scholars going to comment on it. Cuz he's a God damn role model!!
It's the god damn role model himself, sup bro
Toriyama also said he’d peep on his own daughter
I wish this was longer 😭😭😭 awesome stuff man
What's the last song used for background music? It plays early in the video too and I can't remember exactly where it's from.
I don't care what anyone thinks, I watched every episode of DBGT and loved it too.
Non canon or not Dragon Ball GT is great in my eyes.
Dragon Ball O.G., Z, GT, and Super brought sunshine and happiness into my soul and they all helped me through dark times.
Akira Toriyama-San I thank you so much for your imagination.
Exactly, I have all of the blue ray box sets for Dragonball, DBZ, and DBGT. True fans appreciate anything dragonball related
Super is fuckin trash bro
What if dbgt is canon but only in second timeliness
@Rellyali1987 YEP lol
Gt is more Canon for me than super because super is super trash it was always a part in the story if you play any dragonball game especially tenkaichi and budokai you knew if you got near gt arc you get the most badass characters to play.
Luud is actually a very fitting name for the series, Given Bulma (bloomers), Trunks, and BRA/Bulla and all the vegetable named Saiyans. It matches that scheme
How do you only have 6k followers with this masterpiece!! Good video friend
20:17 I didn’t even see the Pan scene like that until your facial expression lmfaooo
Watching GT with the ENG dub and watching GT with subs is a completely different experience, not only acting wise (krillin's death scene in the ENG dub is acted so bad it almost ruins it compared to the original) but the music especially, the SSJ4 transformation just flows so well with the OG score and the ENG one ruined it.
the disc box set has the option of english voices with the original soundtrack and it’s incredible
@@tylerwilkey13 That's a nice feature, but it doesn't fix the terrible 18's voice acting when Krillin dies 💀
I didn't find the acting in the English dub of GT bad for the most part. Sure, that specific scene you mentioned is mediocre (on 18's part at least, I think Krillin and 17 voice actors did a good job) but for the most part, I think it's pretty good, certainly better than the Z dub. What is awful though is the dialogues. For example, in this scene you mentioned, Krillin in the English dub before dying said "You resented Dr Gero because he gave you human emotions". Seriously ? Him and 18 were humans before Gero "reconstructed" (term used in the japanese version of this scene) them. Also, 17 kills Krillin because he convinced him to renounce bringing back 18 on his side but in the japanese version, it's because he annoyed him by trying to reason with him. This scene is one example but there are lots of others. And even if you watch GT English dub with the original music, it won't fix the dialogue and it would arguably be worse than watching it with the Menza score (which btw, is the only English dub exclusive soundtrack that I dislike heavily, I still love Faulconer Productions score, I like some of the movies scores and I'm fine with Nathan Johnson Z score). Because the English dub tone will clash with the original Japanese version tone quite a lot (just like with the Z dub). The mediocre sound mixing of the English dub with Japanese music (with the music volume often being very low compared to the voices and SFX) and the bad sound quality of the music in the last 12 episodes doesn't help either.
Japanese dub is better but it uses the SAME MUSIC 24/7
I think all of DB in English is pure trash, only good thing is TFS re-dub. I'm from Brazil and grew up with the Brazilian dub, after watching super in Japanese now I can't stand the br dub, for me both of the dubs could be thrown in the trash can.
There are parts of GT that didn't work for me, but here are the things I liked:
1) It brings back some of the feel of old old DB, back when Goku was a kid and they were traveling the world and meeting weirdos. A lot of people who grew up on DBZ alone don't enjoy those parts, but I do.
2) I find that GT is willing to explore the themes of Dragonball, and take them in thematically appropriate directions. For example, SSJ4 wasn't just about power creep. SSJ4 was (IMHO) about conquering rage, and Goku was able to achieve it because it's not in his nature to indulge in rage. It says something about Goku. (Also, fan theory: the Super Saiyan of legend was a Golden Oozaru.)
3) More thematic exploration: how the dragon balls were used to undo evil, and Goku and friends had to fight that evil. Or, in the case of the four star ball, Goku purified it just by having it in him. That's how the entire series worked: Goku's influence on others was to make them better, not worse. I approve.
4) Still more thematic exploration: the end of the era of dragon balls would mean the world finally learning to no longer need a Goku to protect it. So it fits that Goku would go away with the dragon balls; he was intrinsically part of them.
5) All the characters ended up in character-appropriate places. Yamcha traveling around with Puar like in the olden days, Krillen with Android 18, and even Piccolo in Hell (er, HFIL). Not that Piccolo would admit it, but I bet he likes being the guy who deals with the problems in Hell. He's well-suited to it, both in skills and temperament. We even got to see a post-Goku world, that was finally as it should be: with peace and happiness, no more threats, and martial arts simply for fun. And it's such a nice touch that Goku got to see that world.
Would I have done GT differently? In a couple places, sure. But it could have been far, far worse. Take a look at Super and you won't find any of the things I liked about GT.
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Woah surely there's something more important around you big dog
@@fallenabr7654Can someone not write a comment on something they’re passionate about? Talk about a party pooper.
I have to disagree with most of the points in here.
Let's start with 1. Dragon Ball moved away from these things for a reason. Reason was that it simply wasn't working anymore. If they wanted to bring back this era of DB, they should have done it slowly, with the start of GT being more like Z, but midways through the first few arcs it's becoming more and more like the original, till at the end it's really close to the olden DB days.
2, I actually agree with this, but I personally think SSJ4's design was kinda weird. I feel like they should have gone with either golden fur or just have SSJ4 have the red aura to begin with.
3, I also agree with this point as well.
4, The world never needed a Goku to protect it. Hell, Gohan would be able to protect it just fine. Goten and Trunks as well if they trained hard enough, plus they have Gotenks. The Z-Fighters? Also Goku was _never_ intrinsically a part of the Dragon Balls, he grew up with one, but he was _never_ part of it. He only joined the quest because Bulma walked up to him and he decided to help.
5, I _heavily_ disagree with this. Yamcha and Puar have long grown past the days of travelling around. Krillin and Android 18, I get, so I don't disagree there. Piccolo being in hell is somewhat fitting, but considering the good he's done, especially with him being Gohan's babysitter in early Z, I think he should have stayed in heaven. Also, I don't think a post-Goku world would be filled with peace and happiness with no more threats. Remember the Majin Buu saga? That thing would have happened _regardless_ if Goku was there or not, Kibito and Shin's appearence, heck, even Super's Future Trunks' version of the Buu Saga proved that. Goku ain't the cause for the problems in DB, and a post-Goku world wouldn't be as peaceful like that, I think it'd be harder for the Z-Warriors to fight. Oh well, at least it would be Gohan's time to shine.
Say what you will about Super, but at least it expanded the lore of Dragon Ball, adding in new universes, GoDs, heck even Ultra Instinct is theorized to be something _anyone_ can achieve, but it's super hard. The transformations might be a little lazy, but honestly, they make sense. SSJG is basically the ultimate act of selflessness (entrusting your heart into someone) and SSJB is the pinnacle of self control (you gotta control that Ki so it won't leak). Honestly I like these concepts far more than "A transformation suddenly makes me grow to my adult size", which was kinda dumb IMO.
@@L1z43vr Golden fur would look good but just be really weird and tacky, red actually makes the most sense as red = rage.
I just wanna say thank you for making a legit add brake but that's amazing
Love GT. Weird and tried to do stuff beyond "charge, fight, earth, fight."
I loved the android saga and buu saga for the same reasons; they try to introduce magic and literally ANYTHING beyond more power and bigger blasts.
Never understood how people can say dragon ball is good, DBZ is better except for all the interesting parts.
I think all your points were great. Only thing I will add is Pan is suppose to act that way. Because her grandfather Hercule was taking care of her. So she didn't have the same humbleness that other characters had. So part of it is her maturing into a good and respectful person.
Plus, Pan has that same type of energy/fire that Chi Chi and Videl have. They really toned Videl down in Super and GT but she used to be a spitfire in Z and I think some of Pan's more annoying outbursts can be attributed to who she's related to more than her being raised by Mr. Satan/Hercule. However, it does explain her spoiled/ "I'm better than you" type of attitude that she has in the beginning since her grandfather is so prideful.
@@Charles_Anthony Chi Chi was like that as a child and then a bit as as an adult but Z made her seem half like Bulma and half like a stereotypical 'study study' mother. I like her more as a fighter. She did not have to change like that just because she is a mother.
@@BitOfUltraviolence: Chi Chi had a bad temper but I don't really remember her being spoiled. She was honestly more shy than spoiled due to living in the middle of nowhere. And I agree wholeheartedly that Akira ruined Chi Chi's character by making her a tiger mom. At least, off screen, she shows that she's still a fighter by training Goten how to fight, but that always clashed with the personality Akira gave her when she raised Gohan..
@@Charles_Anthony I never really got it either as her father raised her to be self-reliant and to fight although he was there if she needed help. She could have been a great mother whilst fighting with Goku. Another reason for it being odd is that she was excited to fight Goku in the ring yet suddenly became naggy and treating Gohan like he is an average human. I mean she did not worry when Goku did stuff at the same age
@@BitOfUltraviolence: You're not wrong. She just got bitter over time, but her coddling Gohan does make sense when you remember that he was kidnapped by Piccolo for over a year. That would make any parent become clingy.
So once upon a time, there was a show that ran for over a decade, well-beloved and known for a change of tone from its early days, with an ever-changing secondary cast while keeping its core people. Ran for well over 200 episodes, and the finale was well-received yet also heart-tugging . A short time later, fans were introduced to the follow-up show, focusing on only three of the prior cast, off in a brand new place and brand new situation. Started out even enough, but then they tried to make the after-show 'wacky' like the early seasons of the first show had been. And it tanked, running less than 1/8th of the time the original had.
Those shows were: MASH and AfterMASH. 251 versus 30 episodes, plus a failed pilot for Radar. So it didn't just happen to DB.
Sometimes, you just need to leave a tender surgeon or saiyan alone.
Happened to Scrubs too.
If this isn’t a copypasta and this is something directly from you, I am blown away. You have a genuine talent with writing and observation and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise
@@grantkelley3372 So far as I know, this is entirely mine, as I have a love of MASH that predates all but a few of my fandoms, to the point where much of my xover fic is based on MASH. In fact AfterMASH even has character derailment - Klinger reverted his character progress and Mrs. Potter became a dimwit when they replaced her actress.
@@shoresean1237 Well if you ever use your writing or evaluation skills for any videos or articles I would love to check them out.
@@grantkelley3372 I've done some character study essays on the wiki I admin for my fave anime, Elfen Lied, but it is not widely popular.
20:21 your face is so funny xD! I never get tired of this joke
Lol hearing Goku say 'Just Calm Down!' When pouring the Vodka xD
"A few cells short from perfection," is what had me dying. Along with the freeze frame on Cell's face. I was out here crying bro 🤣 💀
7:02 Giru helps them out more than ever. Especially against the Machine Mutants.
what is the name of the ost at the start of the video 0:30
Everytime i see that Nappa GT death i got the lego yoda death sound screeching in my head
After Super, if they remade the Shadow Dragon story literally every dragon’s origin would be from one of Bulma’s wishes to look younger
lol
I'm glad for all the stuff gt introduced atleast, if not for the show we wouldn't have the best transformation and form imo. And one of the most badass lines for an ultimate attack.
"I'll send you to the next world with this, TIMES ONE HUNDREEEEED" always sends chills down my spine :D
aint no arguing with that one amigo!
@@ithinkitsvizbi I think you should watch the Japanese to understand the information of certain things, because in the dub they don't be too specific enough.
@@horizon8618 For sure. I'll have to give it a shot!
@@ithinkitsvizbi Yeah.
This video looks like the early youtube kind of videos. Nice job, I love it ^_^
Can u tell me the title of the instrumental at 21:38 it brings back memories when I play theses games and I would like to know what game it's from.
I believe it's "Shine" from budokai tenkaichi 3. Hope that helps!
Absolute great video, the quality is so good I thought this was a regular big DB channel but it's quite a small one, I think the views and reception on this video shows the great job you did
I’m the minority that likes GT 😂 and teared up at the ending like a little byotch because I wanted Goku to stay alive and be with Chichi, Gohan, Goten, Videl and Pan and be a family 😭
I loved GT... :(
I don't but I get the people attached to it. I just don't like people treating it like gold because Super exists
1: This video reminded me of old school youtube, love the vibe this guy has lol 2: That map of Tamriel is so badass 🔥
Hahaha ok, the splash of soda in your drink got me.
GT episode 64, the ending: earth is saved and Goku leaves for good
14 y/o me: shut up.....I'm not crying, your crying
Dolltaki’s fascination with girls turned into dolls against their will came across extremely creepy on my recent rewatch. Just everything about the character was so unsettling and useless
You mean it wasn't creepy the first time you watched it? That shit was creepy when I saw it in 98 and I was like 6
@@187btokes Honestly its one of those things I’d long since forgot about. Like the name “Lord Luud” was oddly familiar but I had basically no recollection of the arc
Ah yes, dolltaki the molester
I believe that it was intentional, the character is apparently based on some kind Japanese cultural thing of guys that collect dolls or something.
As much as I love DB it's got a lot of problems like this, Roshi and his general pervasive for example. Even only going back a few years to Super when he beat one of his opponents because she was scared he would rape her.
@@nineteenct true
Vegeta using a machine to achieve ssj4 was unforgivable, it goes against his character at its core.
Same. I liked GT. It was a good follow on to DBZ. They wanted to expand on our understanding of Saiyan physiology with SS4. As well as add some more history to the Dragon balls with the black stars as a failed experiment by kami. Sure wasn’t as popular as other series, but it was hard to top DBZ fan base.