4G63 BALANCE SHAFT DELETE!!
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2019
- In this one we go step by step on how to remove the balance shafts in the 4g63. Go check out MAPerformance for the kit!
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Great video! Thanks for choosing our kit 💪
Thank you! And thanks for helping out Adam on this project. You guys are the best!
Do you guys offer this kit for the 4g69?
@@widowedspyder9792 aren't they the same block?
Please make a kit for the VW 2.0tsi. The version where the balance shaft runs the water pump.
Will this work on the 70s version of this motor?
Great explanation Justin even a old gearhead has a clear understanding of how the counter rotating balance shafts work how they can cause a failure in HP applications
Thank you!
Great video man will definitely be doing this next 4g63
Thanks for the informative video, learn something handy
Nice vid, Very informative mate, learned something.. 👍
great stuff Justin, keep it up bro!!
Just stripped a D4CB Hyundai engine which got wrecked by a balance shaft failed, the bearing shell got destroyed and the oil pressure dropped causing the crank to spin shells and lock up! good informative video
You're very clever thanks a lot for this video ...
Thanks for the info!
Very helpful video
Good job on explanation!!
Thank you!
imma use your video to do this to my evo :) thx mate. (also imma be along for this build ).
Awesome! Glad I could be of help.
This showed me a lot. Thanks, one less thing I have to buy.
Another incredible presentation by Morfab Industries.
i just had my transit petrol 2.3 engine 4 cylinder recondtioned ,,they said they removed the balance shaft and am worried about the real reasons why? will the engine be less relible now am wondering ...rev higher now but more vibrations and less millage..the old engine had done 140k like it came from fords so why change it ..nice video by the way thumbs up
Great info tkx
@MorFab Industries Can this be done with the engine still in the car? Lets say at the same time i change the timing belt kit?
is alright to have a very small amount of shaft play on the oil pump shaft?
Would a custom harmonic balancer work, like a Fluidyne?
Thank you sir
Where do I order the small stubby shaft to remove the lower counter shaft and of course the upper left side one. My lower oil pump counter weight shaft spun a bearing and I’m just gonna remove it to avoid that headache.
I have a issue with a 4g63...
super low oil pressure and airbubbles in the oil.
I replaced the strainer gasket.
the bubbles are gone and the pressure went up a little bit.
but still its super low.
with a cold engine it goes up maybe 1/4
the lifters still tick super loud.
does the balance shaft removal help here?
its a 200.000km engine. ( 120k miles)
its a daylie NA eclipse, no mods.
Thankyou, this is also for the 4g69 from the lancer ralliart galant and eclipse. This delete kit works for those as well, just thought I’d leave this tip in comments
Is it true that it gives it a little more horse power?
@@Betooo yes the balance shaft robs hp, it will be a smaller gain tho.
@@damongalovich4115 I see. So maybe it isn't worth it?
@@Betooo it depends, if your gonna rev your engine high past like 8k. your gonna want to delete it, it can cause failures. Most people with built engines delete them. but it all depends, some people say it’s better for high rev engines others say get rid of it. But if your balance shaft causes a belt to snap your engines gone.
So when I do the delete are those shafts still in the motor? Or are they taken out sorry If that sounds like a stupid question, but I don't know much about vehicles. I'm having a oil light flicker on mine at idle right now, changing the sensor and switch in the morning. And my buddy told me about this, hoping I'm not loosing pressure from the balance shaft bearing being worn down. So if I don't this to my car it would bypass all of that?
Hi, bmw 118d n47, can delete balance shafts? Cause any problem?
Very nice video
so I have a Evo 09 and I looking at going to push for 400-450hp max motor what just rebuild so I'm wondering if I should delete the balance shaft
Thank you for sharing all of this info! How did you learn so much about these?
I've been working with the 4g63 and several other mitsu motors for the better part of 20 years.
@@MorFabIndustries great job man. Sorry for bothering you... 4g63 canter guts does it also came with balance shaft? Thanks for the reply
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Did the engine have any problems after the balance shaft was removed?
I deleted my 4G63 balance shafts during rebuild and noticed no difference in engine vibration at idle or high revs.
Hey, when you delete the balance shaft, this cause a problem for the engine or all be ok?
Hello from New Zealand, great job with the explanation! Could you explain crankwalk, and are evo5 engines prone to crankwalk?
Any motor can "crankwalk". Just means the motor has exsessive crank endplay. There is many ideas out there as to why some motor are more prone then others to it.
older generation evo motors had a poor split thrust washer design .. all newer ones have a single part design now. When you first start an engine there is no to little oil on the washer so it has no to little protection from wear . Add a poorly designed heavy duty clutch and it multiplies the wear effect . you could stop most of that by eliminating the clutch switch aka the need to press the clutch on initial start ups .
If you watch jafromoblie's videos he points out that most of the time the crank walk issuse is there because people leave a bolt out of the bell housing and it puts a lot of stress on the crank
I believe this to be true because he has never had a crank walk issuse on his many high hp 4g63
Great explanation Morfab! I understood the explanation of the balance shaft on the side of the oil pump. A have a doubt, on the other side (left) I close the holes and take off the balance shaft, the pulley and the belt and put the cover in the place or i mantain the balance shaft, the pulley and belt?
Remove the pulley, remove the balance shaft, remove rotate and reinstall the two bearings to seal the oil passages, and installt the cover over the hole. The belt also gets removed. The pulley on the crankshaft stays
@@MorFabIndustries tks a lot!
Great job. Mitsubishi canter guts truck with 4g63 engine 2.0l petrol, does it also came with balance shafts?
I cant say for sure. But it is possible.
good morning greetings and congratulations on your video, very well explained ok, I would like to know the issue of vibrations if they are persistent or are speculations because I see that those 2 axes are really a problem and the other thing is that if there are no problems in leaving the axle placed clear is covering the holes and removing the strap and tensioner and this is in the case of not getting that kit here in venezuela thanks
I would like to know the issue of vibrations if they are persistent or are speculations because I see that those 2 axes are really a problem and the other thing is that if there are no problems in leaving the axle placed clear is covering the holes and removing the strap and tensioner and this is in the case of not getting that kit here in venezuela thanks
my engine is 4g69 mitsubishi outlander i want this very safe to eliminate the balancers if it is perfect for that reason my insistence on whether they appreciate vibrations
Doe's this affect oil pressure, reading on a gauge
You can also just rotate the balance shaft bearings so the block off the oil passages that is what I did I also modified my stock oil pump shaft by cuting and welding the oil passage closed that's how you do it for free anyways.
I was just about to post this comment. Back in the 90's there were no "kits"
EDIT: How are you not subbed to jafro?? He is the youtube 1g and 2g GOD
And no one is mentioning how much better the oil pressure gets. DSM cats from the 90s know.
How about normal driving 25-30 mph should I delete it or not
Hello...sir i would like to know for engine 4g63 SOHC can it works well???...tq
You said balance shaft 63 times.
Lol props to you for actually counting 😜😂😂
@@MorFabIndustries Idk if he actually counted, or if he just said 63 to be punny (since it's a 4G63 engine, lol).
@@kasper_429 good point hahah
Very good vedjo sir just one question what is the effect of deleting this balancer
slight increment in HP/Torque and vibration.
Two step can cause that huh.... I wonder what happened with Adams engine.... :)
I pulled my old engine apart and it looks like someone maybe hacked the balance shaft off making a little stubby piece like you added in your video. Then it looks like the end of the stubby shaft was welded shut for some reason. Ever see or hear of this method?
3:07 i think i know what really happen to adam's engine 😂😂😂
I was thinking of removing the balancing shaft on the 4D56 engine if it had no effect on the engine.
Eliminated the balance shaft on a 1987 Dodge D50 4x4. 2.6 Mitsubishi about 25 years ago. It worked perfectly. Bought the kit from Moores Engines in Calgary back then for about $35. They said the engine was very well balanced even with out the balance shafts and not to worry. They were right. Was a fun little truck. Bought it used as is because the balance shafts were causing the engine to rattle loudly and the shop she took it to said it needed a new engine.
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My brothers balance shaft seized 100 percent stock they fail all the time. Just delete them all the time. Stock or not mine is deleted alittle vibration but not to bad and I daily drive mine at 334whp.
Time Stamp: 9:11 for those that want to dive right in
hi sir ... what is the difference between engine balancing shaft and engine balancing shaft removed?
what is the effect on engine when balancing is removed?
I be know this is two years old, but just in case anyone has the same question - the balance shaft rotates twice per every cam rotation (so really fast). The only difference that is notable is reliability. I’m sure there’s some performance gain since that’s two less parts rotating, but it’s mainly for high horsepower reliability.
Were the bearings for the balance shafts in Adam's old motor junk?
Yeah they got beat up pretty bad when the balance shafts bent
i tapped out the drinking game too fast lol edit: i went back and made it to 8 minutes lol, now im fucked. whiskey sour baby
Do i have to balance the crankshaft or not?
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also my girl said she stared at the hole in your shirt , love u
LOL Theres welding holes in pretty much all of my shirts.
@@MorFabIndustries lol hard work always ruins good shirts. keep it up bro
Is this Adam LZ's Evo?
Yes it is.
Merhaba. Öncelikle teşekkür ederim. Yeni aldığım Hyundai sonata 1996 2.0 GLS 16 valve doch motor. Balans milini iptal edeceğim. Çalışmanızı gördükten sonra aklımdaki soru işareti tamamen kalktı. Balans milinin motor bloğunu kırması çok kötü olmuş.
(Hello there. Firstly, thank you. My new Hyundai sonata 1996 2.0 GLS 16 valve doch engine. I'm going to cancel the balance shaft. After seeing your work, the question mark in my mind is completely cleared. Too bad the balance shaft broke the engine block.)
my god, lz did a number on that thing so many holes lol wtfffff
These Mitsubishi engines need too much modification
4g63 you need to delete the balancer shaft
4b11 you need to sleeve the open deck cylinders
There is hole in the block
Exaggerating on balance issue... main reason anyone would delete is high performance race vehicle that wouldn't have an issue with vibration due to engine.
Benefit of removing weight and parasitic load gaining a few HP
Otherwise just change balance shaft belt at manufacturer recommended interval
I am interest out of country
My head hurts lol
I said balance shaft sooooooo many times! I was going to film it again but i got lazy haha.
@@MorFabIndustries you were just trying to be thorough. You're a detail oriented type of guy and it seems like you were covering all the bases, dont worry that you came across as a mental patient lol j/k
LOL!!! I was watching it back like "great, Im Rainman"
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