Damien Chazelle on 'Death Proof' (2007)
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2022
- Damien Chazelle on how Tarantino's Death Proof possibly inspired the ending of Whiplash. From Whiplash's commentary track.
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what's the word he's saying at 0:15?
denouement
Denouement. The final part of a play, film, or narrative in which the strands of the plot are drawn together and matters are explained or resolved.
@@johnnybuddhapotato ohh alright thanks!
@@emoney6692 thank you
daynoomah. ita a type of german cheese
“There’s no such thing as originality, you’re always stealing” once you understand this, you’re free as a creator
@@pliiatz7534 Yeah both Scorsese and PTA talks extensivly about ripping of shots from other directors and yet no one complains about that the same way the complain about QT.
Of course originality exists. Why are people making it out to be something impossible? Originality comes from synthesizing. Everything is new. Everything is fractal. New things come from other new things. It never ends. I really hate when people talk in such limited terms. It's like they're saying I have to come up with a NEW MUSICAL SCALE to be original. That's stupid. That's not how it works. There is no other Kate Bush, Laura Nyro, Stravinsky, etc. It's just relative. The word "original" is being made into something that doesn't even exist, so why even talk about it if it's something that literally cannot exist? I doin't get it.
That quote is a double edged swords...
I like when multiple ideas merged together and evolved into new tasty composition. So yea "stealing" or "no originality" is a fine word to use in these situation.
But i hate it when some people use it as an excuse when their work is criticized badly. Like "your work is a halfhearted imitation of its predecessor" and this quote is used to defend it "well there's no such thing as originality, everyone's stealing anyways". I hate it when this quote is used as an excuse to give up trying to reach perfection.
@@josephirizarry5195 well put indeed.
Death Proof is criminally underrated.
This interview made me love this guy. That’s refreshing honesty from anyone, much less a Hollywood director. The truth is Quentin Tarantino has become a top flight director by watching 10,000s movies in his youth. It’s just about good taste. Damien stole something from Quentin that Quentin probably stole from Kirosawa or someone else.
It’s really just how you recombine different elements and put your own take on it that is “originality.” Figuring out what’s worth stealing
Tarantino was very inspired by Godard, Scorsese and DePalma
I literally been on a Damien interview binge all day! Thank YOU
I really liked it! Not a typical Tarantino movie, quite random if we're being honest! It's a movie that people will appreciate more with time.
His best film since Jackie Brown, though that's not saying too much
I think it’s too Tarantino and why people didn’t like it. It’s incredibly indulgent but as he’s my favourite director I eat it up.
He’s become a bit more specific about his criticism (how the grid house look of the first half should’ve been the whole film) but I can’t imagine it wasn’t just that negative reception coloured his own. I love the shit out of it 🤣 and anyone who comes over ends up loving it too. Were moments away from a reappraisal. I’m certain when he hangs it up; they’ll rush back to this and say it’s underrated.
I can’t say what my favourite Tarantino film is but I think second to Pulp Fiction it’s my most watched. Never seems to get old.
Alot of people don't understand the style of Grindhouse. It's pretty awesome if you get the reference of the types of movies they featured. I think QT did a great job. But I love him as a writer/director so I like all of his films.
What's a typical Tarantino movie? seems to be he switches genres from film to film to me.
@@symbiote1982pk quippy dialogue, contrasting characters and pretty convoluted plots
the Whiplash commentary must be great, there's so many brilliant clips of it on UA-cam
It is
I appreciate the non spoiler from Damien on the details of the ending, something does happen between the end of the car chase and the credits
The miniseries Sharp Objects has the best Mike drop ending in recent memory.
That show was insane
The way they intercut some of it with the credits was so strange too
Man if it wasn’t for these types of videos idk what I would do. None of my friends give a shit about film like I do or don’t understand things like this when I talk about them. Nice to have somewhere I can go to serve that outlet.
Love it. Both movies are masterpieces
Death Proof is not a masterpiece. And this is coming from someone who thinks Tarantino is one of the greatests.
@@rodycaz8984 It perfectly executes what it’s trying to accomplish with skill and artistry, sounds like a masterpiece to me.
@@rodycaz8984 Answer this, is your favorite Jackie Brown?
Death Proof is a great movie
I love death proof
I Love Death Proof,it's a underrated film in my opinion.
cool! always really liked Death Proof
my fav tarantino movie when i watch it. not b4 or after or in hindsight but when i watch it is happy times!
Agreed! Also one of my favorites by Tarantino and part of it is how short and weird it is.
Its such a great movie its one of my fav Tarantino movies,I think people take it too literal its suppose to be a fun/crazy movie
Death Proof was the only film that got me standing up and cheering at the end at the comeuppance of the villain.
The best filmmakers just love the making of films
Death Proof is not my favourite Tarantino movie but I do feel like watching it from time to time
It is an "easy" movie to watch.
The other Tarantinos require more commitment, if you know what I mean.
@@rolanddeschain6089 it's not that bad of a movie but when you watch it and compare it to his other movies, it's a bit disappointing
@@opinionsnotfacts I don't think it is a bad movie.
It is just an easy movie to watch. Simple plot with rather simple characters, cheesy, short. Typical grindhouse stuff. Like it should be.
That's the thing, i just love it more and more everytime.
That’s called inspiration
Saying Death Proof is your favorite Tarantino is the new Incesticide is your favorite Nirvana album.
i loved the spaghetti western on the asphalt inspired by the australian cinema
It's actually totally like all Tarantino movies, they're ALL a "RANDOM" send up of a hyper specific non mainstream genre or movement, besides Once Upon A Time in Hollywood, that one is basically Tarantino's Hollywood fanfiction.
Death Proof !!
Death Proof and OUAT are up there with my favourites. And boy do some people hate my opinion lmao
I would argue that Death Proof isn't over when the car chase is over - but rather after the girls kick Stuntman-Mike's ass.
Steven Spielberg's 'Duel' (1971) however, is basically one long 90 minute car chase, and the movie ends as soon as the chase is over.
Whiplash has one of the most gut-punching endings for me, next to an older Sidney Lumet movie called Fail Safe
Originality exists!
It doesn’t end with a smash cut after the car chase, it ends with the girls taking turns beating up Kurt Russell for like 10 minutes straight
10 mins straight is a huge stretch and it definitely ends with a smash cut, it says the end. shows a little more celebrating and a final kick that is accompanied by the smash cut
@@swagmcfly3280 It’s called hyperbole, where what he said was just wrong. It doesn’t smash to the end once the car crashes. Go watch it. They beat up Kurt Russell and then it ends. But he’s making it seem like the cars wreck and the credits roll.
@@whatachola maybe he didn’t want to completely spoil the movie
“There’s no such thing as originality”
I would argue Death Proof is made too well... Planet Terror is just a pastiche of movies tropes from the grindhouse era but DP is an actual grindhouse movie, its not a copy, and back in their heyday they were pretty interminable to sit through apart from some key standout sequences where all the budget got blown. Hence the reason 80% of those movies were essentially filler. QT nailed the brief but you've probably got to enjoy/understand the genre to dig it.
does anyone know how to spell that phrase he’s using that sounds like de new moi or something? lmao i’d appreciate it
denouement
Where is this from ?
It's better than once upon a time
What inspration actually?
I don't get why death proof is so hated
The Grindhouse cut absolutely sucks. The full version is fantastic.
@@spenser9908never watched grindhouse in it’s entirety only the two films separately. what are the differences in the grindhouse cut?
@@lewis821 They cut out the lapdance scene, for one.
@@spenser9908 that’s so stupid, there’s literally so much setup for that. no desire to watch that version of the film.
@@lewis821 Yeah, I'd skip it entirely. I'm sure there's more missing, but I can't recall.
The logic in Death Proof doesn't make sense. They could have pumped the brakes a couple times to get her off the hood of the car and then let him pass and keep going without her on the hood. Obviously not the point of the sequence, but it's pretty stupid.
The only people who say "There is no such thing as originality" are people who can't do original things. It's an infuriating comment, because it detracts from those who do the hard work, who necessarily have to be original.
They just mean that artists get inspired by art they consume and try to implement the techniques they've observed into their own work. You're implying that 'Whiplash' is unoriginal and didn't take hard work to create.
@@whyl9313 I am not implying it, I am outright saying it. In order to make good stuff, you need to invent entirely new techniques, and limit what you take from others to that which is indispensible.
@@annaclarafenyo8185 You're clearly a child who has no idea how anything works lol.
The word is velocity not volition.
@Deep Cut Reactions
No, he wanted to abruptly cut out right after an escalating sequence of rythmic velocity. In other words everything is ramping up to a crescendo of intensity and then the next beat is a black silent screen - roll credits.
Which is precisely how Whiplash ends and what he's saying he was inspired by in Death Proof.
There's no exhale in the form of a coda or epilogue.
Volition makes sense to me. Ending a film with a confidence of will. The audacity, the boldness… the volition.
The Lapdance Scene is cut out from Grindhouse and it destoys the film. You need to by Death Proof without Planet Terror to watch the Lapdance ! This makes it very hard to like this film. So if you dont get the full film is it always a bad film !
The lapdance scene sucked and was unnecessary. They basically shot the whole sequence with the intention to comically cut it short with the "missing reel" gag. I bet Death Proof flows better in the Grindhouse double-bill than on the extended standalone cut.
@@CharlieA24 You don`t tell me nothing new about the gag. But when you think that the lapdance scene sucked and was not necessary why, do you watch exploitation films at all ? The whole point of exploitation is to show this kind of sceneces. Death Proof is in the tradition of Faster Pussycat Kill Kill what is an sexploitation and thriller film. And the lapdance scene is one of the best scenes in the movie with the crash and the end scene.
@@neonknight123 Tarantino never cared to indulge in sexual content. He worked at a smut film theater in his teens and he was bored to tears of those. He usually display sex in the comic sense. Jackie Brown had an extremely brief sex scene due to two stoner aimless characters having nothing better to do. Inglourious Basterds had a 5-6 second insert shot of Joseph Goebbels having sex with a French socialite interpreter while braying like a mad horse. Both Pulp Fiction and The Hateful Eight have outrageously darkly comedic r*pe scenes at the expense of intimidating ruthless killers. Death Proof had one simple and drawn-out lapdance sequence that should've stayed cut down. I got the homages but he does nothing new or challenging with that particular scene. Hence why I find it unnecessary and lame.
@@CharlieA24 It hasnt to be new to be good. And not every thing that is new is good. Its Rafael agains Gabriele (Arc Angels). I totaly understand your point of creativity, but sexynes was proven by the test of time. And sexynes is an ingredient that i like in art like in live in general. What are the ingredients that you like in art ? Wich spirits are speaking to you !?
@@neonknight123 Well not sex for the sake of it. It's gotta have purpose other than "iT's SeXy". That's why a lot of horror movies suck because they use sex as a crux for creative bankruptcy. Horror movies like "It Follows" and "X" use the concept of sex in a purposeful and creative way. That's my 2 cents on that subject.
I personally love Death Proof and bough the dvd when it came out. Infinitely better than Planet Terror. Not sure how a Tarantino fan would not like this and no I’m not interested in hearing your stupid reasons why.
Terrible host, doesn't watch movies, accused him of stealing...man podcasts have zero talent
Dude that was J.K Simmons the actor from Whiplash making jokes with the director
Favorite Tarantino movie? Really?
It's a great movie
its definitely one of his best
To be fair it's criminally underrated and completely misunderstood, but yeah, even Tarantino admits it's his worst movie. That's not to say it's not a great movie, because it is, but it doesn't even come close to some of his other films... I'd probably rank it seventh or eighth in his overall filmography (assuming we're counting Kill Bill as one movie). It's definitely better than The Hateful Eight, and arguably better than Jackie Brown, but still doesn't come close to matching most of his stuff. Still, the overall Grindhouse project (including Planet Terror and the fake trailers- especially Rob Zombie's Werewolf Women of the SS and Eli Roth's Thanksgiving) was (and remains) an absolute blast to watch for fans of the history and culture of exploitation cinema.
one of his favorite tarantino movies*. i personally liked it more than some of his other films as well
@Deep Cut Reactions He's only made 9 movies. Saying this is one of his best is ridiculous. It's easily in the bottom. Here's my list:
1. Pulp Fiction
2. Reservoir Dogs
3. Inglourious Basterds
4. Kill Bill Vol 1 & 2
5. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
6. Jackie Brown
7. Django Unchained
8. Hateful Eight
9. Deathproof
And somewhere down here is Four Rooms if you count that.
Might be worth noting that's probably his worst movie though (performed the worst anyways).
What is this lie about originality not being real? Then why is there no other Lana Del Rey? I think we have to stop referring to "originality" as some kind of abstract term, like a new language that no one has ever heard, nor will ever hear. It's bullshit. EVERYTHING IS NEW. Nothing is the same. I'm not the same person yesterday as I was today. It's a very limiting statement. You can be original. This is one of those stupid sayings that people throw around without thinking. No, I don't buy it.
no, you’re just clearly not an artist. subconscious theft is at the heart of all art, because good artists are influenced by other artists. his notion that “originality is dead” is just a hyperbolised phrase to convey that commonly understood notion. literally ask any artist (who isn’t some ego manic) and they’ll say how they’re always conscious of their inspiration. and lana del rey is a strange example. her music is great but not exactly indicative of originality. and that’s not a slight, because all art is inspired.
Death Proof is absolute ass
*Your opinion
it was terrible. The Grindhouse version was ok as it was only 70 minutes long but when he stretched it out to 2 hours with filler and it shows.
What didn't you like about it?
@@Carlos-ln8fd its a bore fest. Its supposed to a grind-house slasher movie and 90% of the movie is rambling dialogue. None of it is memorable. None of the characters are likable apart from maybe Kurt. And the chase scene at the end was nothing special either. Mainly because you didnt care about the characters he was chasing. The movie was originally written as a 70 minute movie for the double bill then Tarintino decided to pad it out with filler to 127 minutes and it shows.
@@steviegbcool Thanks for sharing. That's an interesting perspective. I personally really love it along with the characters. The style specially is cool with the different types of film being used, the title change and such. I think there's some really fantastic subtext with Stuntman Mike as a metaphor for old Hollywood and ideas about sexual violence and indifferent authority figures.
It's also so interesting how it plays with the structure of a slasher movie. In many slashers, the best part of the film is the opening kill, so QT stretches that to half the movie. Not to mention where a lot of slasher fall apart is the repetitive second act so he omits that entirely and jumps to a crazy action climax, esencially destilling the slasher formula to only two moments: the two most effective ones.
Of course, if you don't like the characters or the dialogue it must seem very boring.
@@Carlos-ln8fd problem is those 2 moments are really all there is in a 127 minute movie. By playing with the slasher movie formula so much it stopped being one. And for me it just ended up being frustating. all the ingredients are there for an action slasher movie and intead of delivering they sitting in a bar talking shit for 40 minutes. you constantly waiting for things to get going and they never really do. untill the last chase sequence.. t if you asked someone to give a quote or line from the movie i doubt anyone could. The Dialogue and characters are just not up to his usual level. Maybe it could of worked for me if it did but it didnt. Dusk till Dawn for me is what this movie should of been like.
@@steviegbcool I think the suspense and mystery of what Mike is doing is what's supposed to keep you on your toes. But whatever if it didn't work for you it didn't work for you.
It's funny you mention From Dusk Till Dawn. I adore the second half of that movie but find the first part to be incredibly boring. Even if it's written by Tarantino it feels like Rodriguez doesn't know how to direct his dialogue. Felt the same way about Natural Born Killers which I just can't stand.
Wtf is he talking about? The movie ended with the girls beating the shite outta stunt man mike. Death proof is weak sauce, characters were not likeable at all, the characters babble is boring and does not come off as natural,it comes off as a 50 year old man pretending to be a 13 year old girl writing things things adults in their 20s don’t really say. It was a slog to get through but the car chase scenes were great. This is a case of tarantinos ego getting the best of him as horror depends on the visual and the pacing and he gummed up the movie with meandering dialogue and little sense of dread. The Grindhouse version was tolerable at least. I think if he had dialed back the annoying indulgent dialogue and paced it better focusing on stuntman mike and built up some dread then it really would have been great. It’s a mediocre film at best to visit once a year if that.
Looking through your comment all your criticisms are flawed, countless films/shows you like I bet have unlikeable character's, hell probably even Tarantino's, what about The Soprano's? do you like that? because everyone on that show was a scumbag. You don't need likeable character's. All of his movies have dialogue like that, where it's not something anyone would say. Horror can depend on anything, "the haunting" is one of the most beloved horror's of all time and is much, much more talky than death proof, many of the horror movies Tarantino would've watched would've been very dialogue heavy "the thing from another world", "rosemary's baby" hell pretty much any horror movie before the 70's was mostly all talk not visuals.
@Mr. GoodKat I like the characters on sopranos, firstly because they were well written with no fatty dialogue though some of their actions were reprehensible they were still pretty likable. They were well rounded, had ups, downs and arcs. Rosemarys baby is a primary example of building dread and tension through out and there was paranoia all over that film. Back to unlikeable characters, they were sorely needed to be relatable take on stuntman mike especially toward the end when he was defeated so that the pay off of the victory would have been more victorious if the characters had been more endearing. Like Laurie strode in Halloween was like able, or Kirsty in hellraiser was likeable and it made their victories against the antogonists the more sweeter. And no not all movies have over indulgent fatter insider dialogue like that, at least make the conversation compelling which to me it was not. Look at Clerks, nothing but dialogue but it was smart and funny. We can just humbly agree to disagree but I simply just do not find death proof to be engaging aside from a good car chase. I wouldn’t say I’m flawed but my opinions are subjective.
@@cicolasnage5684 You said horror is about the visuals and Tarantino made the mistake of thinking it's the dialogue which builds dread and then I cited rosemary's baby as an example of a very talky horror with dread and almost horror made before the 70's built suspense and dread/tension and had tons of talk, the haunting is one of the most popular horror's of all time and if you think they talk a lot in death proof, the haunting makes it look like charlie chaplin, lol.
The characters on Soprano's were scumbags, fact they made them feel likeable is a testament on how audiences can overlook the fact you're a horrible murderer as long as you make a funny joke. The girls in death proof didn't do anything as bad as what the soprano's character's did.
It's also a homage to old grindhouse movies and the character's you followed in them, weren't well developed or likeable, it's trying to feel like an old 70's cheap B-movie, it can't have character's with big compelling arcs and massive depth or it'll ruin the tribute and feel it's going for.
It needed to be the way it is, personally I found it thrilling and enjoyed the pacing, thought it was perfect, there's a long lull before stuntman Mike goes after the second group of girls that for me pretty much made the whole movie because every time I watch it, I am just anticipating his return with the memory of the carnage of the last crash coming into my mind. The pacing made the film a thrillride because then when he shows up again it feels like this big event and is exciting had he cut out the long dialogue scene's it just wouldn't have worked, it's one of Tarantino's best movies.
Saying it’s good because it pays homage isn’t a good argument and overall it’s not a good film
It does so much more though. There's meticulous craftsmanship in the cinematography and there are so many creative choices made that make for genuinely intelligent thematic exploration. Badass movie, I pity your ignorance.
Better than any Marvel film
@@whyl9313 what a moronic thing to say
It’s his worst film.
The movies he wrote and didn’t direct are better than Death Proof.
Death Proof was pretty horrible.
It's garbage