Ups & Down From Star Trek: Picard 2.9 - Hide And Seek
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Rootin' Tootin' Borgie Shootin'! Here's all the Ups & Downs from Season 2's penultimate episode.
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I'm so glad you brought up Robert Picard. Ever since they started the flashbacks I was like where is Jean-Luc's older brother Robert. Some missed opportunities to have the brothers interact as children.
I'm embarrassed at how long it took for me to realise you said Robert Picard and not Picardo 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
He’s at boarding school, they mention it in like episode 3
I was thinking the same thing
Kinda like they never referenced Lore in Season One, although they should have had his body in storage somewhere...
@@lillysora Yeah, they already established where he was, and as we learn more about their mother's mental health, we can understand why. Sure, they could have done some stuff with them interacting, but i feel like it would have just cluttered the flashbacks too much.
Wait wait wait… are we just going to gloss over how Boimler in Lower Decks episode “I, Excretus” proudly states that he defeated the Borg by teaching the Queen empathy… like Jurati does!?!?!
I feel like I’m taking Tuvix pills!!!
Good catch, though technically it isn't that she taught her empathy, it is that she got her to realize that assimilating everyone forcefully hasn't filled the hole that has driven her and that it is time recognize it and to take a different approach. Appealing to a purely selfish motivation, not an empathetic one. Though it is an empathetic path so it still generally applies.
Sean, I just have to say, you hosting ups and downs is a huge up for me. I enjoy your insight and humor. Keep up the great job!
i love sean too, but way too many ups // this show is simply terrible
Thank you Alan!!
Very true
Same x
Alan... you are 100% right! Sean (and the Trekculture Team's) insight and humor are spot on! I love it! (And, you ARE the man for the job, Sean!)
for my money, as someone who generally did not enjoy this episode, I _liked_ how Picard's mother's fate reverberates into the events we saw in TNG's "Where No One Has Gone Before". Where before, in a place where fantasy becomes reality, it was just Picard seeing his dead mom, now it is bringing to life the unrealized "what if" scenario that would have led to his mother living a long, full life, if only for a moment. Then Riker suddenly butts in, breaking the moment, leading Picard to understandably snap "JUST A MOMENT, NUMBER ONE", but it's too late. The moment is gone.
That's my one "up" for this episode. It made a TNG first season episode somewhat better. It's not much, but I'll take it
Yeah, that scene goes from being "meh" to being quiet powerful, retroactively.
I thought that wad his grandmother in where no one has gone before.
The reason Janeway is still an admiral is because Seven gave up. I’m pretty sure I heard her say she quit and went full Ranger. Presumably before it came to Janeway following through with her threat.
Makes me think why they rejected Seven to join Starfleet but allowed Icheb to join. Was it because Icheb was much younger and not as exposed to the Borg as Seven was? Even though she proved herself over and over again on VOY that she was reliable and that without her Borg implants Voyager would have probably not made it back to the Alpha Quadrant at all as it was her implant they were able to use to stop Voyager crashing on that ice planet
@@dmanc85 If that was the reason, they should have said so...it would have taken only one line: "Starfleet said I'd been in the Borg too long, unlike Icheb." I think it's more likely the writers don't watch their own show.
Is it more than likely that 7 and itchy had the same struggle joining starfleet but 7 gave up and joined the rangers before starfleet finally turned around and agreed for them to join we don't have a time line for when itchy joined
@@richardmcneil2882 this
@@NankitaBR ??
I get that giving Seven her implants back was an easy "She's borg again" sign but it did feel a bit odd. Nanites shouldn't give you implants. They start internal changes and then implants are surgically implanted, hence the name.
But if you've seen other Star Trek "Borg Episodes", you'll see other implants appear from nanites.
And they were primitive nano probes so why was the end result the same…. She was healing a stab wound which gave her her ocular implant again
it could be that the queen just went overboard with the “healing”
Yeah, the exact same implants don't make sense. This is an alternate timeline, and there were no markers or anything that would've made the nanites know to give her the same implants... IF they can even do that. The same nanites didn't give the mercenaries any obvious implants, so why would they do that for Seven? (Which, Borgifying the mercenaries was dumb & unnecessary, given that they were just "60's Batman henchmen" like Sean pointed out... and already hired & ready to go in the last episode.)
@@thedoctor755 queen got her 'modern' tech back, and she might thought that restoring seven to a state previously proven successful was the right thing to do. Sure, these are just my head canon but they arent impossible and can reasonably answer things within the plot
I loved the line from Sung to Picard where he says that he could see a future where they would become very good friends.
Did anyone notice his Mom performing the "Picard maneuver" on him.
I did love how they addressed the scene in TNG episode Where No One Has Gone Before where he has that moment talking to his mother as an old lady.
I am sure the writers don't know that scene. But I liked that scene as well. :)
Picard once said he was the first Picard leaving earth.
So I guess Q is still helping Picard by preventing Rene Picard participating in the Europa Mission
@@jurigagarin3966, Picard said he was the first Picard to leave the solar system.
@@jurigagarin3966 he said in generations there were picards that helped settle the first martian colonies
@@peteberry3826in nemesis Picard said to Shinzon that he was - the first Picard to leave our solar system. It caused quite a stir in the family..
(because JeanLuc was the first who broke with family tradition)
He didn't mention the Europa Mission to Shinzon. Because there was none back then...
But in TNG he told his Nephew he was the first in Space.
Furthermore I don't like that the Picard Mansion is not the one from TNG. It looks like a hugh complex for very rich people. I don't like that
Yes, but this show is inconsistent with that
I think Brad Boimler would have been able to teach the borg queen empathy not just Jurarti. It’s how he achieved 100% on his test in “Lower Decks”
I’ve enjoyed a lot of the individual pieces of season 2, but I’ve definitely hit the checking-my-watch “Okay, let’s get on with it” point with this season. Still enjoying the ride, but…I dunno. This season somehow simultaneously needs to be twice as long and half as long, and I just keep finding myself annoyed. Visuals and acting have been excellent for me, though.
You are correct - if nothing else, the visuals and especially the acting have been excellent.
Icheb was a more valuable asset as he was genetically engineered as an Anti-Borg weapon.
Maybe it was Section 31 meddling?
Yeah, it could be one or two Starfleet people with a vendetta against 7 of 9. Sometimes Starfleet can be a*holes to Federation citizens!
Maybe because he was going through training aboard Voyager to become a cadet, and Seven basically got an honorary position just based on her inherited knowledge from the collective, and she wasn't willing to go through the academy
... but 7of9's nanoprobes were used to fight back species 8472.... so...
Oh, nice head canon.
Could have just been Icheb was very young and impressionable, able to be molded into an officer. He immediately had access to the Voyager crew and how they'd already learned how to interact with Anika. Versus Seven who'd been a Borg for all her life, then trying to figure out how to fit in with all the trials and tribulations she dealt with on Voyager.
Why didn't "Not-Laris" use her mind control tech on Soong? Could have at least used him as a distraction against the, "Borg enhanced not-so-super soldiers." Did she forget she had this ability?? 🤷♂️
I can accept that Icheb was terrific in his academy interview while Seven was difficult, arrogant and unbending.
Yea, but Seven would have an admiral in her corner.
@@Pandapeep I agree, there's more to the story. Maybe, we'll find out.
So much thumb sucking LOL.
Could it be a because she had a cortical node and Icheb didn't?
Interesting point. Maybe Icheb was better Starfleet material than Seven as he wouldn't question and just follow .
In Star Trek Online they explored there being a new collective based off the co-operative that was formed in voyager, which is sort of what they have started in this episode.
My only problem with the borg thing is that it took one episode. The whole season it was about the queen manipulating Jurati, Jurati trying to hold on to her identity, and then bam.
Yeah. I think it's a wonderful idea that the Borg once again adapt, this time to something more positive. A force for good, where connection and the group consciousness are based on kindness. I only wish they'd prepared this a little better.
I was so freaking ecstatic that they had the NX-01 refit in Picard. So many references to Enterprise this season really does make some to think there's something coming, and fingers cross there is....
Where?
This series is so overloaded with nostalgia and nonesensical backflashes, that I missed that particular scene. Was it in this new episode 2x09?
@@jurigagarin3966 Overloaded with nostalgia and nonesensical backflashes is an understatement.
@@jurigagarin3966 Sean literally explains where the NX01 refit model appears. It's covered in this video and he shows the screen shot. Have you even watched it?
@@kingboy76 maybe they're watching the video and reading comments at the same time...that's what I'm doing.
Love the ups and downs. Nice to see them straight after the show. But if you wanna make the Strange New Worlds stuff better for those who haven't watched it, just don't put the spoilers in the thumbnails. It's not fun to accidentally scroll past and see something that's important just in case UA-cam is dumb with the hashtags.
But excited for Picard next week. Thanks for the series.
I can imagine Seven not making it into Starfleet just because she had a giant ego. She went to an initial interview and basically asked which ship she would get to command on day 1, and they tried to explain that she'd need to take an entrance exam and start as an ensign rather than just getting a direct commission as a senior officer.
Tallinn was a supervisor, recruited by unknown beings who seem to be able to see the whole timeline in order to protect it. The inference is that she could be from any time period, and have technology from any time.
I'm thinking Tallinn is a time traveler, or works for beings who can. Also I think Tallinn and Laris are the same person. ( Orla Brady plays both obviously. ) Laris is Picard's "watcher" in the late 2300's / early 2400's. Rene Picard is an earlier assignment for her so she don't know JL at this point.
Is it possible that the beings who can see the entire timeline might be the Celestial Prophets… who exist in a dimension where they don’t see linear time… they see everything?
Interesting showing an NX-01 “refit” model. While it does give hope, does a model make an NX-01 refit cannon?
An aside: Maybe making an Enterprise season 5+ as an animated show could make it do-able for the original actors and creators.
I'd say the NX-01 refit is now canon, just how the Titan design became canon when it turned up to save the Cerritos from the Pakleds in Lower Decks.
Why did the ECH have to hide and avoid the drones? Why did it choose a sword over a phaser? Why was he wearing a mobile holo emitter, when the ship is creating the hologram? How did he have his memories? 😖
Action and drama over consistency/logic, unfortunately. Though for the holo-emitter, I thought it might be because the Queen had her fingers in the ship's systems, so she may have initialized him on separate hardware to be safe.
@@mnpa6154 good point about the holo-emitter. They just needed a quick scene showing the ECH getting transferred. Just lazy writing
It would be great if next week Jurati comes back to 2024 after spending 400 years in the Delta Quadrant creating 7of Nines and picked up the rest of the crew to take them home. And home is wildly different (but in a good way, Elnor is alive, Annika is a star fleet captain and shit like that) because uh, of all the crazy shenanigans they got into in LA.
I love that they canonised the NX01 Refit BUT given the way things are right now, I don't trust the people responsible for Star Trek to make a decent successor for ENT.
Icheb's cortical node was removed, while Seven's wasn't, correct? Perhaps that's the distinction for Starfleet.
Might also be how "Close" she was to the Queen.
It was not because, if my distant Voyager memory serves, it's lethal.
Too many conveniences this season. You’re spot-on with the idea of having 5 episodes worth of story in a 10 episode season. That’s the story of modern Trek (Except Lower Decks, which is brilliant!)
I love this season but I couldn't agree more. This season could have benefitted from having only 6 episodes. Ten episodes allowed for too much padding.
Oh flipping heck, I missed it!!!
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like i said it was picard fear that made him self destruct the star gazer so when they get back he’ll be over his fear and help the borg . so we’re back to what Q said at the beginning .
yeah i think this is the key. Q, as always, is playing the teacher. Trickster Gods always do that, they are generally teachers through mistakes.
I do not take credit for this, but I found it quite funny. Spoiler for episode 10, we find out that all characters in season 2 were actually played by Jeffery Combs.
Head and shoulders…First Contact joke 😂😂 really cracks me up 😂😂
"Flashback Grenade". Yes, brilliant! 🤣
So if the Borg get a 400 year jump start, won’t that erase all prior Borg interactions?
Exactly. Just how far behind the technology curve will the federation be, let alone Janeway and Voyager without the Borg as an adversary?
But doesn't this mean there will be two unconnected Borg collectives? The original Borg collective began in the Delta Quadrant much longer ago than the 21st century. So does episode 1 show the Jurati Collective making its entrance from some protected space in the Alpha Quadrant?
@@kirkdarling4120 My take was that the Borg in episode 1 were fleeing something.
This episode has major issues, but I can believe that the original Borg still exists (especially considering that it may have been jump-started by the Enterprise episode and First Contact.) Meanwhile, the Jorg stays in the shadows.
I’ve felt so confused about Picard’s flashbacks. It seems further in the past than 2024. Especially regarding Yvette’s mental health. There haven’t been any advancement in treatment for depression?
Great Point! There were but that is what you get with sloppy lazy writing.
I think this is because every Starfleet captain had to grow up in the olden days. Picard in the early 1900's, Kirk probably in the 1950's given how he is, Sisko definately grew up in the late 50's and 60's, i can't remember Archer, but it was probably 1960's suburbia. :P
Picard was born in post war France in 1946 and is almost 500 years old.
@@dec2 LOL! Yep. It seems like the writers forget the time difference. Almost as if Picard lived in post WWII! More sloppy writing and pew pew pew!
@@kheldarath LOL! Yep. Why make any sense? Felt that way for sure!
picard wasnt fully trusted after he was assimilated tbf. and we know the federation has a habit of not telling the actual reasons for why they do or dont do something. ie having picard patrolling the neutral zone as an unsubtle way of keeping him out of the fight
You mean KEEPING Picard patroling the neutral zone...The Enterprise was there some time before the Borg started to attack,probably even several months
Nephew Rene Picard having a barbecue? You may not be evil but that definitely was.
I give you all the credit in the world for finding so much to like about this series. I think Picard has been such a let down for TNG fans, but again, good on you for seemingly enjoying this series.
Disagree...I am a huge TNG fan and this series has been great overall! This episode was fantastic!
I'm a TNG fan. Don't speak for me. I love this season more than last season.
@@kmc16 I agree. It's a good series.
Great stuff as usual - looking forward to seeing how it ends.
Disagree on the Robert point - I think Family portrayed Jean-Luc and Robert with a sibling rivalry, but they did care for each other (they were getting drunk in the house and singing songs by the end of the episode). There would be a lot more bitterness if Robert blamed Jean-Luc for what happened, and there's no way it wouldn't have been brought up in the episode during their back-and-forth.
Only other down I would have given was Picard finding a near-100 year old handgun and A) knowing immediately how to work it and B) that it was functioning at all with no issues after all that time
The handgun was a roll your eyes moment for sure. Same problem with Jurati and her shotgun.
A) Picard liked to pretend to be a P.I. from the same time period. He knew how to work a Thompson, after all.
B) From an NRA article from 2021: “'I’ve shot factory loads from the 1870s, and they went bang and hit the target accurately,' said NRA Museums Senior Curator Doug Wicklund, affirming that ammo can indeed last a long, long time."
@@lanapowell Fair enough, then!
There's always been more borg collectives in Trek... the borg cooperative springs to mind.
Despite being action packed, this episode bored me to death for some reason. I was actually annoyed with the Picard flashbacks to Yvette's death.
I wonder if the Borg from the Confederation timeline will fight the Borg from the main timeline.
Same for me. I struggled to see the point throughout.
Same, feels like half this season has been spent wandering around the dark tunnels under chateau Picard, it's a visual snooze
Interesting. I really enjoyed the flashbacks and the time in the tunnels. To each their own, I guess. :-)
Seven said she applied to join Star Fleet but was turned down. Janeway fought on her behalf, but she decided to give up and go full Fenris Ranger instead. Maybe Janeway carried on fighting on behalf of Icheb and the others, and was successful in the end.
Thanks for the excellent videos, BTW!
Additional thought - Janeway successfully getting Icheb into Star Fleet may also explain why she didn't resign as she threatened.
9 episodes with enough story for 5, that's putting it nicely.
I told someone 2 hours just yesterday.
I noticed last week when young Picard's mum asked if he wanted to play a game she reached over and tugged down his vest, thus starting the Picard maneuver.
There is a "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" echo when Raffi and Seven get ready to run back to the ship but don't think they will survive.
7 of 9 getting the SAME Borg implants back was the way it had to be! Sure it was nice to see 7 as Annika for a short while, but it was time to return 7 to that brave, tortured soul with the ICONIC look that we know, and love.
And to be fair...after about 15 minutes noone in our time would care about someone with jerry ryans looks having such weird ornaments :D...Even less during her 20s :D
In every Easter Egg video I've seen on this episode, no one has mentioned that Jurati battling the Borg queen mirrors Kes battling Tieran in “Warlord” (season 3, episode 10).
Man....that was such a good episode. Best Kes episode by far.
Well we already had the original Baltar in Trek, might as well have the new one.
I am not so sure why there is an issue that Seven was not allowed to join Starfleet. They didn't trust Picard for basically the same reasons at the start of First Contact, a few years before the end of Voyager... there is precedent.
I know this isn't a great answer, but maybe they just had something happen that caused a change of policy between Seven's rejection and Icheb's enrollment in Starfleet... there are a few years in between each action after all.
I agree, it lines up with how Starfleet treated Picard then and makes sense for a post Battle of 001/Dominion War Federation to be very hesitant to accept individuals that have Borg components that can't be removed and even if that's ignored, the way we saw Seven being straight to the point and bristling against authority/forms that she saw no logic in, that doesn't seem like Starfleet material that'd do well in an Academy setting.
Either that or it was another reason. Icheb was a child when assimilated and took no part in any assimilations before being freed. Seven, on the other hand, matured fully within the collective and was party to millions of assimilations. Even if you can't blame her directly for those actions, she was still a part of that. Ethically I suspect there's a real question about whether she should be part of an organisation that has members who've suffered because of her.
I honestly think the writers and producers just don't care.
It served the story on a short term. That's enough. There won't be an further explanation. Trust me.
I honestly think they just forgot about Icheb.
So much thumb sucking LOL.
One thing I noticed in the flashback when his mom suggests they play hide and seek- she straightens his shirt in a way that looks like the "Picard Maneuver"
“What if…” Maurice took her to get the mental health scientific help that was established in TOS and TNG as existing to help people with mental illness? 🤔
Does 5150 not exist in the future? Did they respect her personal wishes so much that she died? It’s the thing that’s bugged me the most about this whole season. I guess some people will always slip through the cracks for some reason or another. But if TNG was supposed to be near utopia, how was that situation allowed to get that bad in the first place? Did she never go to the doctor or get a scan?
@@Sk8rToon some people are too ashamed to admit they have mental health issues and get help. Maybe that is going on here??
I was quite surprised cause afaik Seven was a member of Starfleet both in STO and Beyer's relaunch novels and Beyer is an exec producer for Picard so bit of an odd decision.
Yeah see I'm loving the books, that one line. Ruined it for me
This episode retcons Picard's old mother's appearance in, "Where No One Has Gone Before."
Yeah. Although the dialogue directly references what Picard saw in that episode.
Totally fine with this new era of Borg being suggested. I mean, we've DONE everything with the Borg. Not like they didn't get a fair shot on-screen. It's a welcome change.
Just like it was for TOS die-hards when they were told, “Klingons are our friends now,” in TNG.
We are the Borg. Resistance is optional. We want to help you by adding your pain and loneliness to our own. Come and join us in a group hug. But only if you want to. P.S. there will cake.
The problem with Elnore is that he wasn't beamed off the LaCerenas (sp??) with Raffi and Seven. so he will still be with the ship.
Maybe that mobile emitter can keep him around.
Maybe Raffi grabbed it.
Robert got the Happy Days Chuck treatment!
It's so interesting to watch (positive) people cover this series because people are all taking different things from it and at least to me, that its a sign of depth if I've ever seen one.
Yes!
No it’s not. Unless you think razor thin means deep, That or you think sycophant and objective are the same thing.
@@tarn1135 No one cares what you think. :)
@@eatit8262 👏👏
17:47 "Would you kindly".. lol.. I see what you did there Seán! ;)
**Ups:** The next season is its final.
**Downs:** Season 1, Season 2, and the upcoming Season 3.
Thank you for this Ups and Downs
Holy crap, I never noticed the NX-01 refit model - love it
This episode made me cry. I know what it's like to have a parent take their own life although I was much older than Picard.
It seemed like the Voyager crew dropped Seven once they stopped needing her. I could see Janeway's input blocking Seven's entrance to Starfleet.
I recognize the glass that young JL drinks milk from from somewhere?
We have had a similar spiral/rifled set since the 90s. The only diff is the glass has a rounded taper at the bottom, while these appear to be straight down, with a 90* angle to a flat bottom.
Another issue for a down/Cetacean Ops; After Talon's Zhat Vash rifle (From the 2400's as you mentioned) is damaged by a Borg Drone/former commando's gun, she throws it away on the floor in Chateau Picard, apparently forgetting about it like a piece of garbage. Timeline corruption, anybody? Prime directive? Ugh...
so in a way, jurati was able to do what boimler did in that one simulater exersize, she taught the borg queen empathy
Next week she needs to beat her at chess.
Soong telling Picard that if the circumstances had been different, they might have become friends: Obviously a reference to Data but also to the conversation between Kirk and a Romulan commander who was then recast as... Sarek :)
Ups and Downs now have their own easter eggs. Snap! "Well, that was unexpected!" I saw what you did there, Sean. 😉
Did anyone notice in Stargazer Jurati's comment on the Borg Queen was something like "That's new" and she then convinced the Borg Queen to "become something new"? Looks like that was foreshadowed.
What if the Borg entity on Stargazer wasn't Jurati but someone else sent by the Queen.
How about Renée ? Too crazy ?
Not too crazy.
One lives one dies? could be.
@@dysomniak Maybe they call the Sisko to do some nonlinear time, Prophet shenanigans.
How about Yvette? That'd be really crazy...
Guys, Elnor's body remained on the ship. Will Queen-Jurati revive it and turn him into a drone with free mind like Seven?
The question "did voyager neuter the borg?", has been answered.
18:42 - I totally missed that when I watched the episode and I share your excitement! That is so cool that Drexler's refit is now canon!
There's a dozen borg between us and getting to the ship.
We're probably gonna die.
Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience
Sean and Kris hit this out of the Park... Bravo 👏♥️☺️
The whole situation with Seven, annoyed me thanks for mentioning this! Deffo a massive down for me. Also... though the up would have been the Janeway mention 😍
I look forward to this as much as the actual show!
9:00 THANK you. I've been wondering why they delve so deeply into Picard's past and not mention the one family member with whom Jean-Luc is most closely associated.
Janeway threatened to resign but Seven dropped her efforts to join Starfleet before it came to that.
I have to give a down to Raffi and Seven somehow beaming back onto the ship before Elnor Combat Hogram unlocks the ship.
Congrats on the 200K! You guys definitely deserve it! TrekCulture is BY FAR the most informative and entertaining Trek based channel on YT. See you at half a mil!
Well that got really deep. Well done Sean for addressing the Yvette story line so very carefully and elegantly 👏
well, I have some issues.
Why did Tallinn not beam directly into the La Sirena? They wouldn't have had to fight against all these soldiers.
why do Picard and his mother wear clothes as they lived in the 1940ies? Did they just take 350 year old clothes from that time when the chateau had been left?
Sean, you are definitely the man for this job!!
It certainly was a magical Star Trek moment when Seven and Raffi stabbed a dude in the eye with a knife.
My favourite scene was seeing the Borgified soldiers getting beamed into the walls.
I've been watching through breaking bad, El Camino and now saul and those shows lean hard into show don't tell which makes it all the more tiresome here when picard jjst yammers on about his mother's death rather than showing us the young picard experiencing it. Watching a character experience something will always be stronger than that character telling us what they feel
Did you watch the episode? We literally SEE what happened to his mother.
Low hanging fruit with that Rene Picard joke, but it's it more evil that I found it amusing?
Rene Picard having a BBQ 😂 I just spat out my coffee
Really excited to see what they do with this new co-operative Borg in future Star Trek shows - seeing them fight alongside the Federation against a new threat would be amazing!
a enemy from a galaxy far far away . . .
*giggles*
@@TOFMDrone maybe we can have "Star Trek Dominion: Resurgence" ha ha.
This isn't the Borg Collective. This is the Borg Cooperative that we saw hinted at in Voyager.
Also, there are some rebel Borg rolling around in a few stolen spheres and cubes. Can't leave those buggers out!
@@andrewmurray1550 The Domionion could probably simply outbreed the borg..
At around 9 minutes 34 seconds in the episode during the flashback is looks like there's a lit up Excelsior model on the corner shelf.
In the main timeline, we still have the Cooperative and Hugh's Borg.
Also the stars dying bit might also be a reference to the Q Civil War
I’m loving Picard personally - I think the criticism is a bit over the top, considering sir pat’s age we are lucky to have this show
yeah um why would a combat hologram run from weapons fire just too OP
Seven had a Borg implant that kept her from dying. She was given it by Echeb who not fully assimilated could survive without it. This happened late season 7 when her implant failed.
Anyone else get Lore vibes when Soong was commanding the Borg in the Chateaux?
No mention of Jurati's Borg using green laser sights?
@Sean one more cetacian observation: the weapon Rios uses when he beams back to the chateau is incredibly similar in look and the way the barrel pivots to the side to the weapon Sorren used in Generations ;) There was also a major continuity error. Last episode ended with the queen assimilating roughly a dozen special forces members. That number was repeated early in this episode but when the attack on Picard & Co happened there were sfx of DOZENS of borg transporter beams inserted.
I knew that phaser/disrupter looked familiar.
The outfit is Ten-Forward-riffic 😄
Thinking about the final episode coming up. Agent Wells had no impact on the season. What’s the reason he’s even here? Perhaps he’ll be the one to arrest Soong at gunpoint and thus save the galaxy. Picard did say he will need his help.
I’m just thinking out loud. What are your thoughts? How will Picard stop Soong from interfering with the Europa launch?
I’d love to hear your opinions, ideas, thoughts and guesses. 🇨🇦
I will say, you are looking quite dapper in that cosplay, sir
06:50 Down vote for E.C.H. Elnor dodging and running away from the bullets. He's a hologram....he....CAN'T die
His portable holo emitter could be damaged
@@neomt2 he doesn’t need one, he’s on the ship…lol. Just silly and bad writing, as usual.
@@tlevans62 how do you know? That's the Confederation La Sierna...not prime universe/timeline one with holographic Rios
@@neomt2 because that's how holographic projections work...
@@tlevans62 The holo emitter probably isn't directly linked to the ship's computer/borg Queen. Holo-Elnore needs to be separate to keep the code from the queen.
Whith her knowledge, 7of9 could have been drafted as a teacher at Starfleet academy about the Borg and their technology right away...
I loved this episode.