The NFL’s Biggest Comedy Act: How The Cleveland Browns Have Never Had A Franchise Quarterback…
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Since their return to the NFL in 1999, the Cleveland Browns have desperately been searching for just one franchise quarterback, and every single time they've come up empty, but why? Have the Browns been extremely unlucky, have they mismanaged the talent they've gotten, or does the answer lie somewhere in the middle? Whatever your personal conclusion may be on how they handled the likes of Baker Mayfield, Johnny Manziel, or Tim Couch, join me as we venture into the depths of the Cleveland Browns organization to figure out how still to this day, the Browns have yet to have a real consistent franchise quarterback and why their stretch of misery may never end. Anyway, if you enjoyed this video at all then like and comment if you want, and you can even subscribe if you think I've earned it.
With NFL highlights going over the play of Cleveland Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson, we saw a lot of football analysis ton by people such as Tom Grossi and the Pat Mcafee show to figure out if he's good or not. Thatsgoodsports has also done extensive research on the topic of other football stories NFL players have shared, and hopefully Secret Base can cover the complicated story of urinatingtree soon.
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:29 - The Rebirth Of The Browns
8:22 - The Tim Couch Era
39:07 - Hope And Pain Perfectly Balanced
1:20:52 - The Hue Jackson Era
1:35:25 - Baker Mayfield, The Savior
1:52:25 - The Relapse Is Inevitable
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Really pushing for that 10 minute video length, huh?
Super desperate to stretch it to the monetization length lmao
Didn’t thing anyone would call me out for this 😢
Maaaaaan he could’ve just did super bowl drought
@tubfrog I love the long videos don't listen to them!!!
@@tubfrogshameful just shameful that you could do this 😔😔😔
I'm happy Baker Mayfield resurrected his career with Tampa.
Me too
As a Bucs fan and baker fan I’m ecstatic, I really hope we can be contenders for the next few years with him
As a Browns fan me too, wish they never got rid of him
@@integratyper5137he would’ve played one more season in Cleveland, and you would’ve been calling for him to be cut or traded. The highs of the mayfield era were fun, but there’s a lot of revisionist history going on when people try and pretend he isn’t just Ryan Fitzpatrick 2
Facts
A lot of younger people aren't even aware that the original Cleveland Browns moved and became the Baltimore Ravens and then shortly after won their 1st of two Superbowls. That's gotta sting even worse.
As a ravens fan my relatives in Cleveland hate to see me coming 😂😂😂
@ericjones6651 I'm not a Browns fan, but hate the Ravens. I won a lot of money in the AFC championship game betting against the Ravens.
@@whataboutrob442 it's ok we got love for the haters too
Don’t act like they moved the owner was a terrible businessman and the only reason he was able to even move the team was because he had a few connections in Baltimore
@@Tbertleff I don't have to act like they moved. THEY DID MOVE! Take your meds bro.
So my mom’s sister married a Clevelander about 30 years ago, so not inly did she and her kids have to experience this exercise in misery, but my uncle actually worked in the law firm that Art Modell used to move the team. That’s something he will never get over, even if he lives to see a Browns Super Bowl
Being a part of the move that killed your team has to be something that haunts you as a fan.
Moms sister= aunt
I’m a Clevelander we gonna see an Browns Super Bowl mark my words
@@durandparkerjr9502 as long as you guys can somehow get someone better than Watson sometime soon, sure
69th like baby! Woo!!!!
I honestly can’t believe you missed out on Peyton hillis in 2010, being a random fullback who had the 1000 yard season
missed out on several valid points, but this is a video to dog them
He was on the cover of MADDEN for christ sake. The dude was a beast. 100% agree
Baker Mayfield is my favorite QB that isn’t on any team I root for.
As a browns fan I was conflicted with emotions upon seeing this notification, however, no words of any language could possibly describe the fear and dread I experienced upon seeing the length of this video, I feel as the patriot fan in their video, but I have no pride, only shame and sadness with the occasional glimmer of hope that persists just long enough to be ripped away in the most painful way possible. I know I will weep in this video
Be positive my friend. We have at least been pretty competitive the past 4-5 years. We have our coach… do we have our Quarterback?? We’ll find out after this next season. If Watson doesn’t stay healthy (or plays terrible), there will be riots in Cleveland lol.
Hey at least people outside of brown fan give a shit about them. If brown pulled off superbowl win non Cleveland fan would be celebrating. Unlike jet no one outside of New York give a shit
The Browns' quarterback situation is an ongoing living meme
A Greek tragedy. They actually found their guy, but they focused on what he couldn’t do instead of what he actually did, played him injured, scapegoated him, and then swapped him for a serial sex offender.
@@warlordofbritannia too bad he wasn't really a sex offender and women just wanted his money it was never proven many of the women were proven to be lying. Watson did fall off tho i won't lie about that
NFL Network did a Top 10 on worst free agent signings, and they mentioned Jeff Garcia on it. And then someone pointed out after leaving Cleveland, he managed to take Philadelphia and Tampa Bay to the playoffs before remarking, "Bless you, Cleveland, you just have that effect on people."
@@maxxjapan619 🤣🤣
@@johnomalley7211He was definitely a real sex offender.
Did you know that?
The Cleveland Browns have over 40 quarterbacks in the last 20 years since they returned in 1999. That is the same years since the Tom Brady era.
Plus one.
Packers have had 3 in 30 years
@@bobbysbreakdowns Are you telling me that ONLY three QB's ever started a game for the Packers in 30 years? Most of these "starting" QB's were one game starts for some reason or another.
You mentioned the browns missing the chance to draft Big Ben in 2004 but you left out the best part. Not only did he go to their hated rival the Steelers but he also won 2 superbowls and until Baker Mayfield had the most wins of any quarterback in the browns stadium. He absolutely tortured browns fans for almost two decades
As someone who has liven in Cleveland for all my 23 years of life. Although this entire video was incredibly well done, I despise your existence for reminding me just how disappointing our entire organization is….
Meh post '99 wasn't so good, but plenty of old history to be proud of. And TBH, you can actually be pretty proud of the continuity that this team actually has now. Trust in AB.
I don't need to watch this video. I lived this life. I'll still watch though...
Literally pained me to watch this
As a niner fan, I think they should be next. 3 SB losses within the last 15 years is impressive and disappointing 😂
Oh there time will come
I think we have to wait a few years for that. They might not be done yet
In the '70s, it was the Vikings. In the '80s, the Broncos. In the '90s, the Bills. There haven't been a lot of repeat losers close in time since then-the Patriots lost three times across 11 years, but they also won 6, so that's not really a mark of futility. The 49ers are about the "best" we get in the 32-team, salary-cap era.
I feel for you guys. Kyle Shanahan was my teams OC in the ridiculous 28-3 BS. I do feel a little less pain knowing that at least a small portion of that blown lead can now safely fall on his shoulders.
@@TheMILVSCR
Imagine if Kyle just ran the ball with the lead in any of his 3 Superbowl losses as OC or HC
This is like watching a car accident for 2 hours that you have already experienced every day for 25 years and I love it!
Jeez i fell asleep watching BrandonPerna and while waking up to this great vid, great thing man
6:52 OJ SIMPSON is crazy
im mean one got away frm murder and the other kill bc his wife cheated on him but put aside both hof
Just a missing white suit
But smart enough to hire the best lawyers money 🤑 could buy, and then stiff the best one. (Cochran)
That was wild. It took a second for me to get it. That was some savagery. Well played sir, well played.
@@ryane5483 same
"Went on to draft two Hall Of Famers....Jonathan Ogden and O.J. Simpson."
I'm fuckin dead
Both HOF murderers I could see the mistake lol.
*Only Ray Lewis didn't murder anyone.*
@@bigkev9539according to him
@@bigkev9539 he was complicit in one
@@YOSSARIAN313
*No. His friends stabbed the other two guys after them and their enteroge instigated a brawl with Ray Lewis and his then friends that night. Even though it was determined to be self-defense, he lied to try to cover for his two friends (aka "obstruction of justice").*
As a browns fan I can confidently say that depression no longer affects me.
Woahhhhhh a 2 hour video?!?! This is bouta be great
As a Browns fan that has been through it since the 80's, I know the pain. The saying, 'There is always next year.' was thrown around a lot through the years but the dedicated Browns fans will always show up for games.
I've been checking this channel day in and day out for weeks, and finally... A NEW UPLOAD! ❤❤
All three NFL teams who suffered winless seasons had a future Hall of Fame on their roster.
'76 Buccaneers: LeRoy Selmon
'08 Lions: Calvin Johnson
'16 Browns: Joe Thomas
Just goes to show you really need more than one good player.
The Browns winless season was 17. I think he was still there though so your point is still valid.
@@RBSmada You're right, it was '17. But, yeah, they went winless even with a Hall of Famer.
Football's a tricky game. And yet me getting dates correct is even trickier.
The only reason I knew Delhomne was a Brown was because I am a Panthers fan and I remember being heartbroken at age 11 when he went to Cleveland
Holy shit a fellow panthers fan.
Seeing a 2Hr Tubfrog video in the sub feed and you just know it’s boutta be an absolute banger
I BEEN WAITING ALL DAY FOR THIS TO DROP PAPA FROG THANK YOU
In 2016, duke Johnson, while actively holding the football, gave up a fumble because the refs gave a phantom fumble recovery to the Washington [redscted].
yeah ppl just enjoy dogging them, they fail to mention them openly being screwed year after year after year. the NFL comes out with an average of 6 stories a season about how wrong calls were made against the Browns and literally cost them the game.
I love this 1 or 2 hr long videos. I clean my place while listening to Tubfrog and it makes cleaning go so much faster.
As an outsider that Deshaun Watson trade is still baffles me
This was a great video. You have a great way of putting this information together.
Baker winning in the postseason with the buccs, and having his best season, while the team they gave all those picks to beat them is the best bit of Karma in NFL history.
@@Kevin-ws6bl Why'd ya ask?
It really wasn’t. The browns were injured to hell so their legitimate hopes ended when Deshaun went out for the season after the ravens game. So the fact that they were even there after all of their injuries, coming out of the hardest division, and having to start 5 QBs total was an achievement, and proved the team is bought in to the front office and what they have going. If that’s supposed to be bad karma, then it wasn’t bad in the slightest.
@christiancorley4309 quit coping. The Browns are screwed because Deshaun Watson has been terrible and his cap hit will be way higher. Unless Watson starts playing like an elite quarterback the Browns aren’t getting close to a super bowl
@@mylespoun9709 before you try an make any blanket statement about the browns and cap, please go listen to/read pieces from Jack Duffin. He’s a cap expert who’s followed the browns for years, and he’ll help you learn how the cap actually works, so you can not regurgitate the same talking points that other people have, when talking about the browns’ and how they operate.
@@mylespoun9709 imho they had 3 chances. the drive, the fumble, and 2020.
Baker Mayfield going to the Browns was the best and the worst thing that could have happened. On one end, he was the perfect jolt for that franchise and could have had more playoff chances with that team. But on the other end, his immaturity and playing through that devastating injury that he had to his non-throwing shoulder really cost him his job there. I really think Cleveland should have just shut him down after the Texans game when he got hurt.
I think they would have, but he got medically cleared to play, and it was a contract year. I bet they let him make that decision
@@christiancorley4309 But, you can see before and after the torn labrum in his non-throwing shoulder, along with re-aggravating it a few weeks later, that his throwing mechanics were screwed up and it costed the team multiple games to miss the playoffs.
@@manzac112True but the browns are also a cursed franchise as Baker was cooking on the Bucks.
This is where the team didn’t save Baker from himself. Football players are going to want to play, period. Where it’s his non-throwing shoulder, ok, give Baker 2-3 games to see if he can still go. After a few weeks though, it’s obvious he’s not the same player and the team needs to step in and say “Thanks Bake, but you’re not the same player with only one arm. You’re done, go get surgery.”
@@manzac112 his mechanics weren’t that screwed up. He was still able to throw and insisted on doing it. He’d have a few inaccurate passes here and there, but most of his issues came from playing outside of Stefanski’s system. Getting baited easily by robber, being late to reads, etc. Quincy Carrier did a film review of him that points this out.
I was mid-drink when hearing the Ray Lewis joke, spit it out involuntarily and choked with uncontrollable laughter
Bernie Kosar was a franchise quarterback.
A video like this for the Cowboys since Jerry bought the team would slap
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Dude amazing video
Me seeing that Seneca Wallace is now like 13 qb's back and then aging 40 years. Me remembering the jersey was originally Tim Couch's and instantly turn to dust.
Great work as always, looking forward to the next deep dive
Absolutely love your work bro!! Keep up the great work!
This is so fricking good, youve profected your art, thank you for entertaining us for free!!!!
Don't forget that wynn was selected 2 picks ahead of this guy named Tom Brady
“And OJ Simpson” lmao
Until Watson is gone, I hope the browns accomplish nothing
And if they do with Watson, what are gonna say?
@@IllMatic97 I see you in the comments defending Watson, so I’m not gonna say anything to you weirdo
Okay racist
@@kjsdpgijnThis has nothing to do with racism. It's about Deshaun Watson being another Ben Rothlisberger.
You don't need to hope.
Underrated channel fr
I have to say, I will always respect Hue Jackson for doing the plunge liked he promised
I think I actually creid after the couldn't resist the Kokinis line. Great vid
Well work can wait another hour for this one..
God damn a 2 hour vid lesssss goooooo. You are by far the hardest working football youtuber by far. Idk anyone making videos this long that are good every minute too. It’s easy to make something long but not good for 2 hours👏
Im loving these longer videos bro. Keep it up
Please bro ... no more f this stupidity!
This video is so long, yet it's well done, ive commented too much.
The team move was a wake-up call for my NFL fandom. On the cusp of 18, it made me grow up and abandon all emotional ties to a football team as an extension of my personality. Watching football without the childish emotions of a favorite team feels good.
Old Chiefs fan here, I watched nearly 50 years of heartache and failure, a little different because often they were good enough just to not get high draft picks. It's hard to imagine getting a top 5 pick every year and not hitting a winner at least by accident.
This was the fastest 2 hours ever, great documentary man!!
Every Browns fan remembers every name 😭🤣
Woke up with a hangover to see this on my feed.
Worth it.
As a Browns fan, I feel like I've seen us leading against the Steelers at halftime many, many times. And it's depressing how few of those games we ended up winning.
Haha this was awesome. Great work.
u a top youtuber not even just in the sports world u do fantastic recaps of 20 years of time it’s impressive stuff
W vid; love these long (pause) vids.
When they got going again in 1999 everyone knew it’d be a while before they found their footing. Never imagined that 25 years later they’d still be at square one. And of course the old Browns have been thriving from the jump in Baltimore.
This is better then Wikipedia and very entertaining with your channel. If I had to read this all of this info it would have put me to sleep, love the effort awesome work ❤😊
I don’t know if I have seen a video by you that doesn’t feature 28-3 at any point in it. It’s amazing. 😂
Great video. Not a browns fan but loved how you did this. Would love to see one on the titans but I know that wouldn't be popular.
Lol great one
Ever heard of Ed Reed 😂😂
Talented UA-camr
I'd have to say this video rivals "Days of Our Steelers" as the best long football documentary I've seen on UA-cam.
1:06:35 btw...that 2nd ravens superbowl was the season art modell passed away, the Baltimore jerseys had an "art" conmemorative circle sewed in
So...in the year browns fans could finally say "good riddance" so such a maligned person...the team he ripped away from them gets to send him off with a super bowl win...
Every time the Baltimore ravens were said it caught me off guard lol I should be expecting it but every freaking time. You did a killer job with that!
I love your videos man especially your longform ones not enough UA-camr do really long form NFL videos!!! please do one on the history of the Detroit Lions up until now !!
Now we got professor tub in the house.
The fact that they got rid of baker Mayfield after he brought more success to the franchise then they'd seen in years and signed Watson, surrounded by controversy and gave him a massive contract for Joe Flacco to come in and do more for them off the couch then Watson has is the most Brown's story ever 😂
For real I was so happy that Deshaun Watson was terrible. Also, it made me even more happy that Baker Mayfield found success on a team that has way less talent than the Browns
When this many QBs fail, you KNOW it isn't the QB... It's the ineptitude around him making it nearly impossible to succeed. Baker is in the process of making that abundantly clear.
Hot take, but Hue Jackson's winless-ness wasn't entirely his fault. He had some catastrophic luck with special teams and injuries.
Great video brother
Baker Mayfield was a decent QB with a bad season and the Browns chucked him aside because they dont know what a starting QB, even if they arent the best, is worth
Agreed, and what surprised me most was that a lot of the fans seemed happy with the move at the time. Oooof
@@ROMBomb001baker was very polarizing some people loved him and others hated him both for good reason.
The problem with baker is that although he is an average to slightly below average QB (if you just average his years together) he has these peaks and valleys
2019, 2021,2022 he was objectively a bottom 5 QB in the sport
2020 and 2023 he was 10-12. 2018 he was about 12-15.
And also regardless of good coaching or good players around him he will still have these issues. He’s just so inconsistent that the browns didn’t feel his highs were good enough to justify the lows and tbh I agree considering we’re not looking to just be a playoff team and maybe win a game… we wanna try and win a chip and even at bakers peak I don’t think he will be able to do that (look at 2020)
This is such a great video. It's taking me a couple days to watch it but I'm almost done lol. Love your WW1 reference. 1:40:43 I don't know how many people are going to get that.
I lost it with the Thanos clip around the twenty minute mark😂
The amount of greed in this organization is insane, my whole world shattered when I saw that we traded Baker Mayfield. I wanted to give him one more year, he was playing through injury in his last year in Cleveland, and the disrespect our management showed this man out the door by trading for Groper Cleveland....I feel for Baker and I hope that Jimmy Haslem rots in hell
As a lifelong Browns fan i love this! Def gonna have to sub! Even if you did kind of skim over the whole Peyton Hillis thing 😂!
Havent seen anyone mention u calling ray lewis oj simpson lol ur dry delivery is too good 😂
you turn my frown into a smile tubby
The Browns game vs the Bills at 42:24 that they lost 37-7 I was born on that very day I kid you not
TWO. HOURS. Hell yes! Just got off of work. Got some grub. Got some beer. Got a great video to watch!
Don't listen to these heathens. This is peak content and I don't mind the longer vids. Great stuff.
45:49 can’t blame you for that search bar 😂
Nice! A two-hour TubFrog video about footballing sadness! A pleasant surprise on my sick day today. Seriously. I will alleviate my own headache today by indulging in Browns fans’ perpetual headache.
*Update* it didn’t work, because I couldn’t help myself from feeling sorry for them. For those poor young men, the Browns. The broken Browns 😢
Great video any shot you could do one on the Bills 17 year drought?
😂😂😂
Far from a Browns fan, but I remember all those names
As a Toledo native that thinks Cleveland is a cesspool...it's really interesting how popular Cleveland sports teams are compared to Cincinnati.
Like I've seen so many Browns and Indians jerseys growing up, but NEVER see any repping yhe Bengals or Reds.
It's so funny/telling/ironic that the only playoff game we've won was sans the HC.
Been waiting for the browns video
Still can’t believe that the Browns won’t keep Flacco
As a Packers fan I never knew we signed Tim couch
Gosh I've really spent 10 years rooting for the Browns already. I was just Browns curious at first but that Ravens field goal block loss was what cemented me as a Browns fan. Even now as I wish no success for Deshaun Watson I still root for the Browns
This isn’t a comedy, it’s a horror movie
As a Lions fan, blowing a 24-7 lead in the playoffs sounds familiar…
Lions are never going to the playoffs again. Enjoy while it lasted
@@gunnercade7728 I really hope this isn’t a Browns fan talking because that would be sad
@@baseballsoffury642Detroit sports overall sucks
@@marquanmr not really. We have been better lately. Lions will be better for the next few years because of our new ownership
@@baseballsoffury642 tigers suck, pistons terrible, lions pretty good. But for the better part of the last decade, all Detroit teams been terrible.
Big Ben was at one point holding the most wins in the Browns stadium for like a year and a half. Thats how bad the browns qb situation was during this time
This was a good watch man
As a Steelers fan it is heart warming to see baker doing well.
Was watching the dynasty documentary and realized something. Belichick benched kosar and it led to turmoil for the qb position for the browns till, well i guess joe flacco. He benched bledsoe and it led to the Patriots dynasty. An eye for an eye.
Baker was and is good too but we screwed that up
I legit sit down and watch these like its movie night
The goat has returned