Warp has a detectable signature. The locals could detect the massive warp signature generated from powering the battle. They’re smart enough to learn from what they’ve detected. They’re also ruthless enough to use it on themselves. I didn’t have an issue with that plot point. It’s exactly what the US and many other countries would do with the tech developed from a warp signature.
Sure given time maybe they could figure out a way to make one. But it was only 3 months since they saw the battle, there is no way they make a warp bomb in that short of time. If this episode came out later in the season it would have made more sense.
Yeah, I think when people hear the word "telescope" they assume an optical telescope, whereas it's more likely going to be a radio telescope as well as optical.
@@TomNicholson77 regular telescope is a pretty easy conclusion to reach. Happily, we see things invisible to mere telescopes thanks to all the various tools we’ve devised. Honestly, if a great honking space battle happened just outside our solar system? We’d be reading all sorts of things, most likely. CETI would just go bonkers.
And it was clearly stated as NOT a Warp Drive but a warp bomb. Since warp technology is based on power from controlled matter/antimatter reactions, those very p ok potentially could leave signatures that could be picked up by an advanced prewatp culture. The never said they were able to view a battle but rather an unusual event through their abilities to monitor space, just as we today can detect differing types of radiation across the universe with our technology. How much we have advanced due to those observations and interpretations is astronomical (pun intended) in nature.
I have to give some props to the cinematography. That 360° dolly pan around the transporter pad while the away team is beaming off the ship is the first time we've seen Star Trek characters transporting from multiple angles in an uncut single camera shot. It was filmed with the same type of camera equipment that was used to film The Matrix.
That shot is similar to the shot of Pike, his Security and Science officers beaming onto Discovery in the Season 2 first episode "Brother". The point of that shot was for the camera to wind up behind the ear of the science officer so we could see it wasn't Spock.
Great episode breakdown, BUT you forgot to mention Pike was watching Klaatu's warning speech before departing Earth at the end of "The Day The Earth Stood Still". As a metaphor for MAD and other doomsday scenarios of our own making, it neatly foreshadowed and tied into what's thematically explored in the episode. Brilliant, IMO.
So many easter eggs: the shuttle Pike was in was called Stamets, Pike referred to Uhura as a Prodigy, almost all women on the bridge whereas in TOS Pike character mentioned he couldn't get used to women on the bridge lol, the USS Archer(of course); Lieutenant Kyle; the very first opening scene of the Enterprise had the same color swoop as Star Trek The Motion Picture. So many more eggs I lost count! Also, when Pike's communicator was chirping there was an old rotary telephone next to it lol
This is how you make a Star Trek episode You can totally see the difference in quality attention to detail respect for the lore everything take notes Picard and I'm looking at you discovery. This is how you do it!
I agree and I have a question. Things like Spock having a sister are unknown to me because I didn't watch Discovery. Would you recommend Watching Discovery which I could never get into, or can one simply watch selected episodes that provide the needed background for these particular plot elements. Thank you so much for any advice
@@user-xu4ow3bu6f okay here's what you need to know in this regard. Captain Pike had to take command of discovery. The woman that Spock is referring to is the Mary Sue of Star Trek Discovery Michael Burnham. She was adopted by sarik at a young age and raised with Spock. there was a rogue AI that merged with Discovery couldn't be destroyed and all hell breaks loose The only way to solve the problem they send discovery with Michael Burnham to the future 1,000 years. In order to do that they needed a time crystal from a Klingon monastery on the planet borough. It was there that Captain Pike saw his future. That's really all you need to know in that regard.
@@highlander723 thank you Highlander. That is pretty good and even makes me want to watch those episodes. I think I'll just have to bite the bullet and watch Discovery to get in the vibe. This first episode of Pike was so unbelievably excellent in comparison with Picard and with Discovery. Enterprise was not very good either. So gracious of you to take the time and really appreciate the information
@@user-xu4ow3bu6f If you feel you must. I posted all that so you wouldn't have to watch Discovery I just can't do that to a fellow Trekkie. LOL But if you must you must. Good luck
@@highlander723 yes I know. I turned it on once I watched a couple of episodes and then realized that it was just so terribly vacuous I couldn't continue so I might just find the particular episodes you reference, which I could research easily enough. But I promise I won't torture myself. So good to see many in the community enjoying this new brilliant vibrant meaningful and adult version of Star Trek.
@@joeswanson733 Not crazy as all. Global nuclear war could literally exterminate ever human over time from radiation defects, famine, nuclear winter, etc.
@@BackwardTravisty so I think the star trek human are peak humans are something because even pike was saying overall humans lost 1/3 of it's population that means with a population of 8.5 billion you are still down to 5.95 billion the same as If we were back to 1998 levels
I think what is interesting is that we now see that Spock probably began formulating the events in "The Menagerie" right after the events in "The Cage", long before the accident actually happens to Pike.
My guess on how Kylie was able to develop warp tech from observations is that their telescopes weren't all optical. Some of their telescopes are like our LIGO which we used to detect gravitational waves. Warp engines curve space like gravity does so if they had tons of data on the warping of space, that combined with their own particle accelerator research may have been just enough to make develop and understanding of warp physics (and presumably matter/anti-matter production).
Star Trek has returned! So much to say, so little time to say it. Love going back to the episodic format like the original series had (including it's sequels). Love the fact that they didn't use subtitles while Spock and T'Pring spoke in Vulcan (as someone who is visually handicapped, this can be VERY distracting, having to pause the show, get up and read the subtitle, un-pause, repeat). I sincerely hope that the writers and producers will continue the respect to the lore and cannon of Gene's dream.
My Thursdays just got even better. It’s become Star Trek day for me 😂 Friday being Star Trek review/reaction day. How fitting episode 1 was a parallel Earth like planet with a prime directive dilemma and a Captain speech. TOTALLY Trek. I think they had more advanced telescopes that was able to detect the warp fields, that revealed the basic principle of warp theory, which they immediately set about using in its crudest way: as a beat stick.
@@iknowdave9379 _'The Orville'_ is the true inheritor of Star Trek's legacy. In June we get season three of _'The Orville'_ , so right around the corner.
You're the 3rd reviewer who is very enthused about this new show As am I! Uhura's distraction of one of the Planet's sports teams allowed Chapel to dose the Alien scientist. This planet's race reminds me of the one in the TOS episode "A Piece of the Action" are very curious AND even out current Scientists and such can already find things in space and figure out what they are just from using various telescopes! Remember that! You see towards the end of the episode how they are already breaking down how the Enterprise is put together. We so so many Easter eggs in this and hope to see more! Now, as for Wesley and Kore in your previous review, If what he said is true, we may very well see BOTH pop into any of the current series, or not!😉
I loved it. The bridge colours, the communicators, the thing that the captain is handed to sign, all the shout outs etc. I just wish they would use the OG theme music without the changes. 👏👏🥰
Regarding warp discovery. Knowing it's possible may have contributed more to them developing it. their telescopes could have given them clues on how the ships are configured. sometimes you accomplish something purely because you realize it's possible in the first place.
I can't believe my senses. A real Star Trek episode from CBS !! Perhaps they finally got the right writers and creative directors working on this project.
They used the word 'telescope', but it was likely some kind of sensor technology, that could detect anti-matter and other elements required for warp technology. The word 'telescope' just probably carried over from earlier centuries.
Great review and I loved the episode. They did leave a few unanswered questions. How did the crew get off the Archer ship unless all of them beamed down for some reason. The planet did not have space flight yet, or did not have any spaceships in orbit when Enterprise arrived. Second, yes, how do you reverse engineer a warp bomb by looking at it in high powered telescopes and also seeing spaceships near Discovery? The only thing I could say is maybe the scientists were getting close to creating a working model of a warp drive (after finding a crashed alien craft). But made the bomb first.
The species' picked up more than just visible light through their telescopes, they likely ran the whole gamut of the electromagnetic spectrum, and possibly even some sci-fi-ey types of energy that don't really exist. This sensor data (in the real world, btw) can tell the scientists a lot about the physics going on, including a warp field. Seeing something like that would lead to all sorts of scientific discoveries, whether directly from those readings, or because of new theories and experiments were developed. My issue is how quickly they did it, which seemed rather quick to me.
yeah, we can detect planets in orbit of stars that "might" be capable of supporting some sort of life, given they apparently present similar conditions to earth in terms of atmosphere and orbiting their parent stars in a so called "goldilocks zone".
There are no "hallways" on ships, they are called "gangways". BUT, I have heard "corridor" on Navy ships. Similarly, walls are bulkheads, ceilings are overheads, floors are decks, doors are hatches... and it goes on and on ("chow" ,'head", AND "rack").
Im sure their telescopes are picking up the radiation or other energy signatures from the battle, like how we look for gamma or infrared, and when they seen these (for them) powerful new signatures they attempted to recreate it from the read outs
Have been a Trekkie since the earlier 1970's and, I gave this first episode a rating of "B-". I am very much looking forward to seeing its future episodes. Great to see Pike as the real Captain of the Enterprise (smile...smile).
I got the sense that the fight in Discover was near enough to their planet that they didn't need warp capability to get there. And either a ship (or more than one ship) crashed on their planet or they saw the fight up there and sent people up to investigate.
Thanks for reading that part, I’m dyslexic, I am always having to poss trying to see what they are saying, but a lot of times it just goes past me so I do appreciate that because I wanted to know what that said.
The telescope question is appropriate to ask; I'm leaning on a group of telescopes whereas each as specific functions, such as full spectrum, thermal, optics, layers of infrared, x-ray etc and they compiled all the data together to create a schematic based upon probability on how those alien ships functioned.
@@joeswanson733 Not typical optical, Webb can utilize many spectrums to analyze objects; think of a precursor to long range scanning. Then the best scientists use probability analysis to put a logical puzzle together.
I’m glad you brought up that point that they created warp technology from witnessing the ships from the outside lol. Don’t get me wrong still loved the show as a life long Star Trek enthusiast. I have loved it all from start to current regardless of imperfections or critiques I make. The more Star Trek the better!!!
I thought about this and maybe their 'telescope' wasn't necessarily only visual. Its possible the information they received from a radio (or even more advanced) telescope was enough to be able to reverse engineer from the warp signatures and they branched off from there.
Yeah space telescopes like Hubble pickup radiation, the aliens probably "saw" the warp signature radiation of the battle and attempted to recreat that energy from the read outs
If the Kylie are comparable, technologically, to our current capabilities, then in addition to optical telescopes, they'd have orbital astronomical spectroscopy (i.e., telescopes measuring various sections of the electromagnetic spectrum). They should also have been able to use observational data of the structures and motions of the various ships in orbit to estimate properties like mass and energies required for different kinds of work. So, it's conceivable that they'd be able to infer what the process of energy production is that's necessary to account for the data. But beyond external features of warp technology (i.e., nacels) and theoretical knowledge that such ships would use matter-anti-matter reactors, they'd have to be more clever than we currently are to design a working matter-anti-matter reaction that warps spacetime.
On TOS, I only remember Kirk being made up as a Romulan. Other than Spock covering his ears or the crew wearing the same clothes as the natives, no one on TOS was given a shot to be genetically altered to look like the natives. That didn't even happen in the 24th century. This may be a pre-TOS show, but it feels and looks like it takes place in the 25th century. Ok, so it's another reboot. I'll deal with it on that level.
pretty sure its gonna pull an enterprise and do episodic storytelling with an overlying story arc thats not directly featured every or even every other episode but its still kinda in the backround doing its thing..
Regarding how they developed warp tech just by seeing ships in space. My hypothesis is that on the planet, among various scientists, that there were multitude of "whacky" theories that were ignored and brushed aside. However once people see that a particular theory is not only possible, but used by several different warring alien species way out in space, one dude's obscure theory turns into a fully funded government project, supervised by the Department of Defense and the military industrial complex.
Did I hear it wrong? I thought Pike said it was a war started with unrest in one area (US), then called the Eugenics War, and finally known just as World War III. Am I wrong?
As for the warp core I could definitely see how you could do it with spectroscopy. They could detect what elements are there. What quantities. I'm sure there were already alien scientists with theories about warp drive. So it's not surprising that you might have their version of an Einstein or Hawking that got the data and it provided the missing pieces to the puzzle or move their theory into a different direction. besides it really depends on what telescopes they had in orbit. The one thing that I don't understand is if Spock said it had been 3 months since They were all together on Enterprise..... And the battle for zero point was one light year away from the planet How could they have possibly seen the light yet It would have taken a year
I think it's been more than 3 months. Because it took 2 months to repair the Enterprise after Discovery then they went off to somewhere and then now Enterprise is back in spacedock for a refit. So I think it's like a year later.
It was great, unlike the massive amount of gatekeeping going on in the comments about it. if we don't get a spinoff of some sort with La'an as space Batwoman, then that would be a huge miss. I think that Trek having different shows for different audiences is a sign of it's true potential as a franchise. Nurse Chapel surprised me, she's got to be the biggest upgrade of a character from TOS so far on this show. Robert April was pretty interesting. That part where Pike interrupts to get Spock was golden. This is truly Horny Trek. The reference to the Jan 6th insurrection was quite a swing, as Trek does. This kind of felt like the Kelvin movies at times, which I liked.
They didn't have a blurry 'photo' of a warp drive. They had many extremely powerful fairly long signals and readouts of them working. Visible light was only a tiny part of the information they received. If it's in the same universe as Picard the Eugenics wars were in the 90s because Soong took out the old file after his computer was wiped.
T'Pring showed up in TOS season 2, when we were introduced to Pon Farr. Pon Farr happens in Vulcan males every 7 years. SNW is starting 11 years before season 1 of TOS. So Spock should feel it in season 6 of SNW. Hopefully, it will be handled tastefully - say, “Captain's Log: Science Officer Spock has headed back to Vulcan to take care of some pressing family matters.”
It was great. Love the old format of episode/new adventure. It hit all the right Trek notes. Cast are great, uniforms look genuinely good, the tech is a great nod to the original but thoroughly well designed to look futuristic. The Kirk moment at the end was so flipping clever and unexpected. Loved April's casting and role in the episode. Ethan Peck is brilliant and loved the whole section on Vulcan. Looks like the Gorn may be the big villains in the series at some point.
The best part... the windshields on the shuttle were dirty!!! After decades of hyper-clean perfect sets. Been a fan since I watched the OS back in the 70,s it was so disconnecting to think the future did not have one dustball or a scrap of paper. It was unnatural but now we know Star Trek is human after all. Spock needs a Rumba :)
"You can't just show someone an iphone and have them make it" Um isn't that what Star Trek is about? We saw communicators and PADDs and figured out how to make them.
Good Morning Nick, I did like it very much. I enjoyed every part about it and I am like you wondering HOW THEY make a warp bomb just buy seeing a battle through a telescope. But the way they tied it in to Discovery was good and THAT Spock mentioned that he missed Burnham was good. VERY GOOD EPISODE thanks for sharing your thoughts
I liked this Pilot episode, but am not sure how in Discovery injecting self is not allowed (watched the 2nd season) with the alien and unknown, but in SNW they are altering themselves with alien dna-they should stick with one set of rules. I the future star trek I think they do makeup and prosthetics. I could have misunderstood. Feel free to explain. All characters were great so far-hope they stay the same and not turn into villains on the 3rd season or something because like I said I like the all so far. Loved the bridge, the sickbay with emergency transporter, the conference room off the bridge-great add on! I liked the developments of characters and also the stand alone episode-beginning and an end of the adventure! Looking forward to next Thursdays episode!
Not all telescopes are for visible light. You also have Infrared, Radio, Xray... etc. The question becomes, could these explain how a 21st Century civilization can develop a rudimentary warp device? also if Warp energy can be used as a weapon.... why haven't we seen this before?
Oh, Nick, Nick, Nick! 😆 I happily suspend my disbelief concerning how these people got the warp bomb 💣 technology! 😆 Let's just celebrate 🍾 that plain, regular episodic Star Trek is BACK! 👍
also the good thing about the return to episodic format is that something actually comes to resolution within the episode and we don’t have to endure an entire season of filler to get to something of significance happening.
The only retcon this show gives us is extra narrative that allows Enterprise and Discovery to make sense in the context of the original series. The eugenics wars were intended by the writers to be indefinitely retconned, because the real-world events that inspired them are still a matter of current events as far as Earth history is concerned. They were originally inspired to a great extent by Nazi Germany's quest for the Aryan superhuman race and the wholesale slaughter of the holocaust, but also other atrocities and war crimes of the 20th century along with ongoing atrocities and unrest in the present day.
I think you’re incorrect about them retconning the wars to the present I believe that the wars still happened at the same time they’re just using modern images. Other than that, I enjoyed your review and I like your channel, I also loved this series premiere and look forward to more episodes.
It might be a bit simplistic to say "they figured out how to build a warp bomb by looking through a telescope". If they're at mid-21st century levels of tech i'd assume they have slightly better imaging tech as we do and we can already tell chemical compositions of near-by comets from their tails, plumes of ices from Jupiters moons, hell even what makes up distant stars. So assuming that, and that dilithium is native to their planet I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to imagine them seeing large dilithium signatures along with huge matter-antimatter explosions and putting 2 and 2 together. (edit) If anything i think calling it a "warp" bomb might have been the only real misstep since warp implies it can travel FTL. Which unless it was a bomb mounted on an FTL missile wouldn't make a ton of sense.
I really appreciate the premiere - I love it from the first minute. It's amazing what happens when you hear the fans. It's unbelievable, really; I could be really picky and find minus points to this. It's really not worth mentioning. The captain is a captain, the story is a story, and the lines are amazing. The crew looks like a crew. The captain checks with the bridge officers for recommendations (TNG). The visuals and CGI it's breathtaking. I guess also these guys that are making Star Trek are learning. They got it right for this episode and this premire. It's modern, it's technologically advanced which makes sense for 2200-something years. It looks nice, it looks funny and looks like you can check the show with your family. The writers make the Captain amazing, the speech delivered on the Planet it's amazing. The actions taken to the solution are reasonable and sound and show responsibility and strength. Also, I agree that from a telescope you can't build a warp drive. But they also didn't build a warp drive, they build a bomb. After all, it's Sci-Fi it's supposed to look sci-fi. Personally, for me, it didn't change anything about the actual view of the episode. I would really love the see another episode of First Contact - also from the alien viewpoint. I think was really smart to do that.
That's really excellent analysis. I liked it when I swap pike riding a horse which paid homage to his horse riding in the pilot the cage. I wonder, did he get some sugar from his pocket and give it to the horse? That would have been a great Easter egg
@@shadowmist1246 Except that, as far as I know, Kirk never said "screw it" about the Prime Directive. he interpreted it, as the senior officer in the field, is duty-bound to do, but never knowingly broke it to satisfy his personal sense of morality. The closest you can get to say he broke the PD was in "A taste of Armageddon", when he stopped a war, rather than simply leaving the area with the Enterprise. Of course, if he did that, the war would continue, maybe even worsened as actual bombs were to be used, instead of virtual ones. You could that "A private Little War" was a breach of the PD, but, while Kirk's solution was not ideal (he'd be the first to agree), it was the best he could do to neutralize the Klingon tampering with the local civilization. It was an attempt to uphold the PD, morethan anything. The fact is that Kirk was a far more by-the-book officer than any of the others we followed. Certainlly more than loose cannons like Sisko and Picard (who broke regulations and orders like nobody business, but was so flippant and self-righteous about that that nobody noticed. Plot armor also helped).
Thanks, Nick, great review. Unfortunately, it looks like we’re headed for a new scope of fiasco for the audience in Europe. They kicked Discovery from Netflix, just days before season 4 was set to launch. I wasn’t too happy with the only streaming service in my country that I could find for this, so I ended up, buying every episode individually, on Amazon Prime. And now, not even that option seems to be available. The only known ways to access the show, all seem to have legal issues. If they don’t get their act together, people from the EU will end up, having seen all your reviews, before even episode 1 comes around. Shame. I can’t wait to see SNW first hand. It‘s been a while, since we got to enjoy old-school Star Trek.
I may have missed it with Nick's review, but the USS Archer looked like a scout ship with a crew of at least 50 people. I only saw three crew members. Where were the other crew members?
my guess for this "plot hole" is that it's a heavily automated ship and the crew is just 3 people... i know it's stupid like what if hey get attacked... we saw in STIII what happens when automated ships get hit at the right spot... they stop working lol
@@joeswanson733 I'm a huge Star Trek fan I used to play the old FASA tabletop game is a kid and that was definitely a Hermes class scout. I dug out my old book from the basement and you're right it's supposed to have a crew of 195 crew and officers. So my guess is they completely automated the systems on that ship to be ran by a "chimpanzee and two trainees."
They don't explain why it's only 3 crew members, but Spock brings it up as interesting, so they're not hiding it etc. Maybe it'll be explained in the next episode?
This gave me and Emotion i lost in Disco and Picard. I smiled sooo much and Yeppp I cried on that Speech he gave. Just an Observation i saw when the Aliens were on the Steps looking at the Ship with the News woman talking ...They looked like they were wearing 60s clothes and look at there hair..close to 60s style.
One of the things I liked about this, moment when Captain Christopher Pike beamed in the conference room, was actually showing our history, brutally and honestly. This brought back to mind TOS, where as aliens would scan the Enterprise, they would learn about our barbaric history, but here is the Enterprise with it's crew. An excellent moment.
@@Tinrs80 obviously he was too busy making sure there were no transgressions against the sacred Star Trek thou shalt not do ANYTHING that wasn’t in TOS texts……how DARE they have a hairstyle that isn’t a bouffant beehive
I was expecting Spock to make him forget as was the case with kirk in TOS. What a horror to know the exact date (10 years) when your life will become a horror.
I think what is interesting is that we now see that Spock probably began formulating the events in "The Menagerie" right after the events in "The Cage", long before the accident actually happens to Pike.
They take a starship to an other planet with 3 people on board.... not even an engineer with them. If the planet fired on the enterprise as soon as they showed up, why didn't they destroy the USS Archer sitting there with no Shields up.
I've watched "Amok Time: too many times to count since 1967. I must have missed something. I think the scenes with T'Pring and Spock in this first episode are based on some warped recollection of a scriptwriter who heard about "Amok Time" and the Vulcans, in general, third hand from a teenager with raging hormones.
T’Pring and Spock were engaged but T’Pring fell in love with another Vulcan in the meantime. So you know, there is some room for drama, especially since we saw Nurse Chapel and Spock on what looked like a date in one of the teasers.
Yeah, but if you watch Amok Time again, you’ll notice that it establishes that Spock hasn’t seen T’Pring since childhood. That’s even why he’s sitting staring at a monitor that has a picture of T’Pring at age 12 or something. So yeah, we can call it what it is, a retcon.
I agree with you, it so refreshing to see a new modern Star Trek show that have gone back to its episodic storytelling roots.
So far, this is a substantial improvement over everything "official" since 2005. I hope they can keep it up.
I dunno, I still think Lower Decks is better, but this is only one episode in, so that could change.
Warp has a detectable signature. The locals could detect the massive warp signature generated from powering the battle. They’re smart enough to learn from what they’ve detected. They’re also ruthless enough to use it on themselves.
I didn’t have an issue with that plot point. It’s exactly what the US and many other countries would do with the tech developed from a warp signature.
Sure given time maybe they could figure out a way to make one. But it was only 3 months since they saw the battle, there is no way they make a warp bomb in that short of time. If this episode came out later in the season it would have made more sense.
@@kkehoe5 doesn’t worry me. They’re a smart people. Why not?
Yeah, I think when people hear the word "telescope" they assume an optical telescope, whereas it's more likely going to be a radio telescope as well as optical.
@@TomNicholson77 regular telescope is a pretty easy conclusion to reach. Happily, we see things invisible to mere telescopes thanks to all the various tools we’ve devised. Honestly, if a great honking space battle happened just outside our solar system? We’d be reading all sorts of things, most likely. CETI would just go bonkers.
And it was clearly stated as NOT a Warp Drive but a warp bomb. Since warp technology is based on power from controlled matter/antimatter reactions, those very p ok potentially could leave signatures that could be picked up by an advanced prewatp culture. The never said they were able to view a battle but rather an unusual event through their abilities to monitor space, just as we today can detect differing types of radiation across the universe with our technology. How much we have advanced due to those observations and interpretations is astronomical (pun intended) in nature.
I have to give some props to the cinematography. That 360° dolly pan around the transporter pad while the away team is beaming off the ship is the first time we've seen Star Trek characters transporting from multiple angles in an uncut single camera shot. It was filmed with the same type of camera equipment that was used to film The Matrix.
That shot is similar to the shot of Pike, his Security and Science officers beaming onto Discovery in the Season 2 first episode "Brother". The point of that shot was for the camera to wind up behind the ear of the science officer so we could see it wasn't Spock.
Great episode breakdown, BUT you forgot to mention Pike was watching Klaatu's warning speech before departing Earth at the end of "The Day The Earth Stood Still". As a metaphor for MAD and other doomsday scenarios of our own making, it neatly foreshadowed and tied into what's thematically explored in the episode. Brilliant, IMO.
Indeed! Looks like Pike loves scifi whereas Picard doesn’t.
So many easter eggs: the shuttle Pike was in was called Stamets, Pike referred to Uhura as a Prodigy, almost all women on the bridge whereas in TOS Pike character mentioned he couldn't get used to women on the bridge lol, the USS Archer(of course); Lieutenant Kyle; the very first opening scene of the Enterprise had the same color swoop as Star Trek The Motion Picture. So many more eggs I lost count!
Also, when Pike's communicator was chirping there was an old rotary telephone next to it lol
Yeah it was really funny when Pike started saying “you know I’m just not used to… having a new first officer”. :D
It was the 1960s, I think this can be forgiven
I loved it! I just hope the writers and show runners stay on target, if they do it will be lighting in the bottle all over again!
Thanks!
I loved the show. It was comfortingly familiar, but still exhilaratingly new.
This is how you make a Star Trek episode You can totally see the difference in quality attention to detail respect for the lore everything take notes Picard and I'm looking at you discovery.
This is how you do it!
I agree and I have a question. Things like Spock having a sister are unknown to me because I didn't watch Discovery. Would you recommend Watching Discovery which I could never get into, or can one simply watch selected episodes that provide the needed background for these particular plot elements. Thank you so much for any advice
@@user-xu4ow3bu6f okay here's what you need to know in this regard.
Captain Pike had to take command of discovery. The woman that Spock is referring to is the Mary Sue of Star Trek Discovery Michael Burnham. She was adopted by sarik at a young age and raised with Spock.
there was a rogue AI that merged with Discovery couldn't be destroyed and all hell breaks loose The only way to solve the problem they send discovery with Michael Burnham to the future 1,000 years.
In order to do that they needed a time crystal from a Klingon monastery on the planet borough.
It was there that Captain Pike saw his future.
That's really all you need to know in that regard.
@@highlander723 thank you Highlander. That is pretty good and even makes me want to watch those episodes. I think I'll just have to bite the bullet and watch Discovery to get in the vibe. This first episode of Pike was so unbelievably excellent in comparison with Picard and with Discovery. Enterprise was not very good either.
So gracious of you to take the time and really appreciate the information
@@user-xu4ow3bu6f If you feel you must. I posted all that so you wouldn't have to watch Discovery I just can't do that to a fellow Trekkie. LOL
But if you must you must. Good luck
@@highlander723 yes I know. I turned it on once I watched a couple of episodes and then realized that it was just so terribly vacuous I couldn't continue so I might just find the particular episodes you reference, which I could research easily enough. But I promise I won't torture myself. So good to see many in the community enjoying this new brilliant vibrant meaningful and adult version of Star Trek.
That entire history of Earth breakdown scene was really frightening to be truthful. Well handled visually as well.
not really cool that they're patining republicans as the ones taht started WW3
Yeah, they just used real news feeds.
WWIII happens in Star Trek history in 2026-2053.
@@BackwardTravisty you know for a nuclear war 600 million dead isn't even that crazy
@@joeswanson733 Not crazy as all. Global nuclear war could literally exterminate ever human over time from radiation defects, famine, nuclear winter, etc.
@@BackwardTravisty so I think the star trek human are peak humans are something because even pike was saying overall humans lost 1/3 of it's population that means with a population of 8.5 billion you are still down to 5.95 billion the same as If we were back to 1998 levels
I think what is interesting is that we now see that Spock probably began formulating the events in "The Menagerie" right after the events in "The Cage", long before the accident actually happens to Pike.
My guess on how Kylie was able to develop warp tech from observations is that their telescopes weren't all optical. Some of their telescopes are like our LIGO which we used to detect gravitational waves. Warp engines curve space like gravity does so if they had tons of data on the warping of space, that combined with their own particle accelerator research may have been just enough to make develop and understanding of warp physics (and presumably matter/anti-matter production).
No one is going to call out the SILENT RUNNING reference?
Star Trek has returned! So much to say, so little time to say it. Love going back to the episodic format like the original series had (including it's sequels). Love the fact that they didn't use subtitles while Spock and T'Pring spoke in Vulcan (as someone who is visually handicapped, this can be VERY distracting, having to pause the show, get up and read the subtitle, un-pause, repeat). I sincerely hope that the writers and producers will continue the respect to the lore and cannon of Gene's dream.
IMO this was Star Trek at its core..superb :)
My Thursdays just got even better. It’s become Star Trek day for me 😂 Friday being Star Trek review/reaction day. How fitting episode 1 was a parallel Earth like planet with a prime directive dilemma and a Captain speech. TOTALLY Trek. I think they had more advanced telescopes that was able to detect the warp fields, that revealed the basic principle of warp theory, which they immediately set about using in its crudest way: as a beat stick.
I really enjoyed the first episode, It had an "Orville" feel to it.
It's a sad day when The Orville has been more Star Trek than Star Trek. Love Orville!
@@iknowdave9379 _'The Orville'_ is the true inheritor of Star Trek's legacy.
In June we get season three of _'The Orville'_ , so right around the corner.
Great review
A strong start for such a strong show!
You're the 3rd reviewer who is very enthused about this new show As am I!
Uhura's distraction of one of the Planet's sports teams allowed Chapel to dose the Alien scientist.
This planet's race reminds me of the one in the TOS episode "A Piece of the Action" are very curious AND even out current Scientists and such can already find things in space and figure out what they are just from using various telescopes! Remember that! You see towards the end of the episode how they are already breaking down how the Enterprise is put together.
We so so many Easter eggs in this and hope to see more!
Now, as for Wesley and Kore in your previous review, If what he said is true, we may very well see BOTH pop into any of the current series, or not!😉
I loved it. The bridge colours, the communicators, the thing that the captain is handed to sign, all the shout outs etc. I just wish they would use the OG theme music without the changes. 👏👏🥰
Regarding warp discovery. Knowing it's possible may have contributed more to them developing it. their telescopes could have given them clues on how the ships are configured. sometimes you accomplish something purely because you realize it's possible in the first place.
I can't believe my senses. A real Star Trek episode from CBS !!
Perhaps they finally got the right writers and creative directors working on this project.
Episode 2 is even better (imo).
They used the word 'telescope', but it was likely some kind of sensor technology, that could detect anti-matter and other elements required for warp technology. The word 'telescope' just probably carried over from earlier centuries.
Great to see you again. I always enjoy your Star Trek reviews!!🖖
Hey, thanks!
Great review and I loved the episode. They did leave a few unanswered questions. How did the crew get off the Archer ship unless all of them beamed down for some reason. The planet did not have space flight yet, or did not have any spaceships in orbit when Enterprise arrived. Second, yes, how do you reverse engineer a warp bomb by looking at it in high powered telescopes and also seeing spaceships near Discovery? The only thing I could say is maybe the scientists were getting close to creating a working model of a warp drive (after finding a crashed alien craft). But made the bomb first.
Lower decks is episodal as well :)
The species' picked up more than just visible light through their telescopes, they likely ran the whole gamut of the electromagnetic spectrum, and possibly even some sci-fi-ey types of energy that don't really exist. This sensor data (in the real world, btw) can tell the scientists a lot about the physics going on, including a warp field. Seeing something like that would lead to all sorts of scientific discoveries, whether directly from those readings, or because of new theories and experiments were developed. My issue is how quickly they did it, which seemed rather quick to me.
We can detect atmospheres lightyears away right now, so extrapolating data from those warp cores burning nearby wouldn't be that odd.
yeah, we can detect planets in orbit of stars that "might" be capable of supporting some sort of life, given they apparently present similar conditions to earth in terms of atmosphere and orbiting their parent stars in a so called "goldilocks zone".
great first episode, looks great, acting is awesome, story was very engaging
There are no "hallways" on ships, they are called "gangways". BUT, I have heard "corridor" on Navy ships. Similarly, walls are bulkheads, ceilings are overheads, floors are decks, doors are hatches... and it goes on and on ("chow" ,'head", AND "rack").
Im sure their telescopes are picking up the radiation or other energy signatures from the battle, like how we look for gamma or infrared, and when they seen these (for them) powerful new signatures they attempted to recreate it from the read outs
Have been a Trekkie since the earlier 1970's and, I gave this first episode a rating of "B-". I am very much looking forward to seeing its future episodes. Great to see Pike as the real Captain of the Enterprise (smile...smile).
The *real* Enterprise.
I got the sense that the fight in Discover was near enough to their planet that they didn't need warp capability to get there. And either a ship (or more than one ship) crashed on their planet or they saw the fight up there and sent people up to investigate.
I am glad to see the Star Trek shows coming back
Thanks. Watching season one recaps to prepare for season two.
Thanks for reading that part, I’m dyslexic, I am always having to poss trying to see what they are saying, but a lot of times it just goes past me so I do appreciate that because I wanted to know what that said.
The telescope question is appropriate to ask; I'm leaning on a group of telescopes whereas each as specific functions, such as full spectrum, thermal, optics, layers of infrared, x-ray etc and they compiled all the data together to create a schematic based upon probability on how those alien ships functioned.
So you can reverse engineer stuff from telescope?
@@joeswanson733
Not typical optical, Webb can utilize many spectrums to analyze objects; think of a precursor to long range scanning. Then the best scientists use probability analysis to put a logical puzzle together.
I’m still holding out hope that we see Admiral Archer in this series 🤍🤍🤍
He was born in 2112.
And accorsing to cannon, passes the day after kirk took command of enterpise
@@tornadoe13 I believe he passed the day after Enterprise first launched (~2241), not when Kirk took command (2265).
I’m glad you brought up that point that they created warp technology from witnessing the ships from the outside lol. Don’t get me wrong still loved the show as a life long Star Trek enthusiast. I have loved it all from start to current regardless of imperfections or critiques I make. The more Star Trek the better!!!
I thought about this and maybe their 'telescope' wasn't necessarily only visual. Its possible the information they received from a radio (or even more advanced) telescope was enough to be able to reverse engineer from the warp signatures and they branched off from there.
Yeah space telescopes like Hubble pickup radiation, the aliens probably "saw" the warp signature radiation of the battle and attempted to recreat that energy from the read outs
I thouroughly enjoyed SNW Ep 1. I'm hoping they can keep it up.
I think the first few episodes will be mostly introducing the characters. After that, the stories might get a little denser.
Nick, great video as always. Anson Mount and company did not disappoint, great kickoff to the series. HIT IT!
13:15 they mentioned that wreckage from the battle probably made it's way to them as the battle was near enough to their planet.
Absolutely loved the first episode. Great review btw.
Captain Batel is Wynonna Earp. Cool. Thought I recognized her.
Th9is is true Star Trek, This new serie started very well. EXCELLENT REVIEW!
If the Kylie are comparable, technologically, to our current capabilities, then in addition to optical telescopes, they'd have orbital astronomical spectroscopy (i.e., telescopes measuring various sections of the electromagnetic spectrum). They should also have been able to use observational data of the structures and motions of the various ships in orbit to estimate properties like mass and energies required for different kinds of work. So, it's conceivable that they'd be able to infer what the process of energy production is that's necessary to account for the data. But beyond external features of warp technology (i.e., nacels) and theoretical knowledge that such ships would use matter-anti-matter reactors, they'd have to be more clever than we currently are to design a working matter-anti-matter reaction that warps spacetime.
A classic “find an abandoned Federation starship” storyline with a classic “disguise yourself as an alien to blend in” plot. I’m totally on board!
but they could've done iwth it prosthetics instead of gene therapy.... like bruh
On TOS, I only remember Kirk being made up as a Romulan. Other than Spock covering his ears or the crew wearing the same clothes as the natives, no one on TOS was given a shot to be genetically altered to look like the natives. That didn't even happen in the 24th century. This may be a pre-TOS show, but it feels and looks like it takes place in the 25th century. Ok, so it's another reboot. I'll deal with it on that level.
@@gogreen7794 I know right like bruh lol
@@joeswanson733 Maybe Starfleet realized the gene reconfiguration didn't work so well and dropped it??
@@gogreen7794 because nothing can be cheaper than prosthetics lol also having it wear off at the worst time possible like spock
pretty sure its gonna pull an enterprise and do episodic storytelling with an overlying story arc thats not directly featured every or even every other episode but its still kinda in the backround doing its thing..
Im wondering if the SS Puget Sound was actually a sleeper ship carrying Augments made by Adam Soong using Project Khan.
Regarding how they developed warp tech just by seeing ships in space. My hypothesis is that on the planet, among various scientists, that there were multitude of "whacky" theories that were ignored and brushed aside. However once people see that a particular theory is not only possible, but used by several different warring alien species way out in space, one dude's obscure theory turns into a fully funded government project, supervised by the Department of Defense and the military industrial complex.
But it's been 3 months done the battle...and the planet is over 1 ly away...
@@joeswanson733 I said it was a hypothesis. Everything on TV is in an alternate universe so I can't easily be proven wrong, or right.
Wasn't April a commodore in the Animated Series (i.e. on Kirk's Enterprise)?
Not sure he'd only appeared in one episode of the animated series and it's been a while You're right though he might have been a commodore.
@@highlander723 Just looked it up. "Commodore Robert April" appeared in the last ever episode of TAS (#22) called "The Counter-Clock Incident".
This doesn't add up on 2269 April is a commodore but in 2259 he's an admiral???
I thought the second Civil War was a reference to the Eugenics wars involving Khan, but then that was in my head because of the Picard finale.
Did I hear it wrong? I thought Pike said it was a war started with unrest in one area (US), then called the Eugenics War, and finally known just as World War III. Am I wrong?
As for the warp core I could definitely see how you could do it with spectroscopy. They could detect what elements are there. What quantities. I'm sure there were already alien scientists with theories about warp drive. So it's not surprising that you might have their version of an Einstein or Hawking that got the data and it provided the missing pieces to the puzzle or move their theory into a different direction. besides it really depends on what telescopes they had in orbit.
The one thing that I don't understand is if Spock said it had been 3 months since They were all together on Enterprise..... And the battle for zero point was one light year away from the planet How could they have possibly seen the light yet It would have taken a year
.... you just destroyed the entire plot of ep 1 lol
@@joeswanson733 the comment was placed on a video explaining the entire episode, but it was this comment that was spoiler filled?
@@joeswanson733 sorry but when you work at In the sciences you're surrounded by science nerds that talk about these things everyday.
@@highlander723 no problem. i'm saying you did a good job dismantling ep 1 with ease.
I think it's been more than 3 months. Because it took 2 months to repair the Enterprise after Discovery then they went off to somewhere and then now Enterprise is back in spacedock for a refit. So I think it's like a year later.
It was great, unlike the massive amount of gatekeeping going on in the comments about it. if we don't get a spinoff of some sort with La'an as space Batwoman, then that would be a huge miss. I think that Trek having different shows for different audiences is a sign of it's true potential as a franchise. Nurse Chapel surprised me, she's got to be the biggest upgrade of a character from TOS so far on this show. Robert April was pretty interesting. That part where Pike interrupts to get Spock was golden. This is truly Horny Trek.
The reference to the Jan 6th insurrection was quite a swing, as Trek does. This kind of felt like the Kelvin movies at times, which I liked.
They didn't have a blurry 'photo' of a warp drive. They had many extremely powerful fairly long signals and readouts of them working. Visible light was only a tiny part of the information they received. If it's in the same universe as Picard the Eugenics wars were in the 90s because Soong took out the old file after his computer was wiped.
T'Pring showed up in TOS season 2, when we were introduced to Pon Farr. Pon Farr happens in Vulcan males every 7 years. SNW is starting 11 years before season 1 of TOS. So Spock should feel it in season 6 of SNW. Hopefully, it will be handled tastefully - say, “Captain's Log: Science Officer Spock has headed back to Vulcan to take care of some pressing family matters.”
starting 6 years before TOS, unless i am wrong but SNW is set in 2259
@@Jinn174 I heard 2254, eleven years before Kirk becomes Captain in 2265.
@@dataweaver Pike was introduced in Discovery season 2 in 2257
Great review I’m really looking forward to this series!
I love your passion for Trek. I have come to watch your channel for the best and most honest reviews and commentary. Keep it up!
It was great. Love the old format of episode/new adventure. It hit all the right Trek notes. Cast are great, uniforms look genuinely good, the tech is a great nod to the original but thoroughly well designed to look futuristic. The Kirk moment at the end was so flipping clever and unexpected. Loved April's casting and role in the episode. Ethan Peck is brilliant and loved the whole section on Vulcan. Looks like the Gorn may be the big villains in the series at some point.
Why do you take a shuttle craft from earth,get 50 feet from the ship, then beam aboard?
I know it's stupid. You can beam from earth transporter to enterprise....like bruh
Maybe he wanted to admire his ship, like Picard did and Kirk did.
@@thomashong2938 pike didn't look all that into it
I loved how the Enterprise looked...new but still the same.
The best part... the windshields on the shuttle were dirty!!! After decades of hyper-clean perfect sets. Been a fan since I watched the OS back in the 70,s it was so disconnecting to think the future did not have one dustball or a scrap of paper. It was unnatural but now we know Star Trek is human after all. Spock needs a Rumba :)
"You can't just show someone an iphone and have them make it" Um isn't that what Star Trek is about? We saw communicators and PADDs and figured out how to make them.
Good Morning Nick, I did like it very much. I enjoyed every part about it and I am like you wondering HOW THEY make a warp bomb just buy seeing a battle through a telescope. But the way they tied it in to Discovery was good and THAT Spock mentioned that he missed Burnham was good. VERY GOOD EPISODE thanks for sharing your thoughts
I liked this Pilot episode, but am not sure how in Discovery injecting self is not allowed (watched the 2nd season) with the alien and unknown, but in SNW they are altering themselves with alien dna-they should stick with one set of rules. I the future star trek I think they do makeup and prosthetics. I could have misunderstood. Feel free to explain. All characters were great so far-hope they stay the same and not turn into villains on the 3rd season or something because like I said I like the all so far. Loved the bridge, the sickbay with emergency transporter, the conference room off the bridge-great add on! I liked the developments of characters and also the stand alone episode-beginning and an end of the adventure! Looking forward to next Thursdays episode!
Not all telescopes are for visible light. You also have Infrared, Radio, Xray... etc. The question becomes, could these explain how a 21st Century civilization can develop a rudimentary warp device? also if Warp energy can be used as a weapon.... why haven't we seen this before?
Oh, Nick, Nick, Nick! 😆 I happily suspend my disbelief concerning how these people got the warp bomb 💣 technology! 😆 Let's just celebrate 🍾 that plain, regular episodic Star Trek is BACK! 👍
But....they definitely will be exploring that Khan reveal. So episodic on it's face but season long story in the background. I'm fine with that.
In one of the movies, Enterprise enters the atmosphere and crashes. This Enterprise can actually levitate/float in mid-air. Never knew this.
also the good thing about the return to episodic format is that something actually comes to resolution within the episode and we don’t have to endure an entire season of filler to get to something of significance happening.
so a vulcan can engage in intimate relations outside of pon farr?
Can someone tell the sound affects guys, they forgot the sound of the Enterprise's warp engines running in the back ground?
The only retcon this show gives us is extra narrative that allows Enterprise and Discovery to make sense in the context of the original series. The eugenics wars were intended by the writers to be indefinitely retconned, because the real-world events that inspired them are still a matter of current events as far as Earth history is concerned. They were originally inspired to a great extent by Nazi Germany's quest for the Aryan superhuman race and the wholesale slaughter of the holocaust, but also other atrocities and war crimes of the 20th century along with ongoing atrocities and unrest in the present day.
I think you’re incorrect about them retconning the wars to the present I believe that the wars still happened at the same time they’re just using modern images. Other than that, I enjoyed your review and I like your channel, I also loved this series premiere and look forward to more episodes.
Good summation but you forgot to mention a most likely connection between La'an Noonien-Singh and Khan!
Great Review. Love the shirt you are wearing. There are a couple of the Captains/Ships I can't identify. Could you help me out?
Sure! Which ones?
Top row: Kirk & Enterprise, Picard and enterprise D, sisko and defiant/ds9, janeway and voyager, archer and nx01 enterprise
Bottom row: burnham and discovery, Picard and la Sirena, freeman and Cerritos, dal and protostar, pike and enterprise
So it’s every hero ship and it’s main leader for every start trek series.
Thanks. Do you still sale hoodies with this graphic? I can't find this exact image in your store.
It might be a bit simplistic to say "they figured out how to build a warp bomb by looking through a telescope". If they're at mid-21st century levels of tech i'd assume they have slightly better imaging tech as we do and we can already tell chemical compositions of near-by comets from their tails, plumes of ices from Jupiters moons, hell even what makes up distant stars. So assuming that, and that dilithium is native to their planet I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to imagine them seeing large dilithium signatures along with huge matter-antimatter explosions and putting 2 and 2 together.
(edit) If anything i think calling it a "warp" bomb might have been the only real misstep since warp implies it can travel FTL. Which unless it was a bomb mounted on an FTL missile wouldn't make a ton of sense.
I really appreciate the premiere - I love it from the first minute.
It's amazing what happens when you hear the fans.
It's unbelievable, really;
I could be really picky and find minus points to this. It's really not worth mentioning.
The captain is a captain, the story is a story, and the lines are amazing.
The crew looks like a crew.
The captain checks with the bridge officers for recommendations (TNG).
The visuals and CGI it's breathtaking.
I guess also these guys that are making Star Trek are learning. They got it right for this episode and this premire.
It's modern, it's technologically advanced which makes sense for 2200-something years.
It looks nice, it looks funny and looks like you can check the show with your family.
The writers make the Captain amazing, the speech delivered on the Planet it's amazing. The actions taken to the solution are reasonable and sound and show responsibility and strength.
Also, I agree that from a telescope you can't build a warp drive.
But they also didn't build a warp drive, they build a bomb. After all, it's Sci-Fi it's supposed to look sci-fi.
Personally, for me, it didn't change anything about the actual view of the episode.
I would really love the see another episode of First Contact - also from the alien viewpoint. I think was really smart to do that.
That's really excellent analysis. I liked it when I swap pike riding a horse which paid homage to his horse riding in the pilot the cage. I wonder, did he get some sugar from his pocket and give it to the horse? That would have been a great Easter egg
It's interesting that Pike was even more cavalier towards the Prime directive than Kirk was.
I suppose the major difference was that for Pike, the prime directive was sort of being established whereas for Kirk, it was established.
@@shadowmist1246 Except that, as far as I know, Kirk never said "screw it" about the Prime Directive. he interpreted it, as the senior officer in the field, is duty-bound to do, but never knowingly broke it to satisfy his personal sense of morality. The closest you can get to say he broke the PD was in "A taste of Armageddon", when he stopped a war, rather than simply leaving the area with the Enterprise. Of course, if he did that, the war would continue, maybe even worsened as actual bombs were to be used, instead of virtual ones.
You could that "A private Little War" was a breach of the PD, but, while Kirk's solution was not ideal (he'd be the first to agree), it was the best he could do to neutralize the Klingon tampering with the local civilization. It was an attempt to uphold the PD, morethan anything.
The fact is that Kirk was a far more by-the-book officer than any of the others we followed. Certainlly more than loose cannons like Sisko and Picard (who broke regulations and orders like nobody business, but was so flippant and self-righteous about that that nobody noticed. Plot armor also helped).
Thanks, Nick, great review. Unfortunately, it looks like we’re headed for a new scope of fiasco for the audience in Europe. They kicked Discovery from Netflix, just days before season 4 was set to launch. I wasn’t too happy with the only streaming service in my country that I could find for this, so I ended up, buying every episode individually, on Amazon Prime. And now, not even that option seems to be available. The only known ways to access the show, all seem to have legal issues. If they don’t get their act together, people from the EU will end up, having seen all your reviews, before even episode 1 comes around. Shame. I can’t wait to see SNW first hand. It‘s been a while, since we got to enjoy old-school Star Trek.
they are probably trying to generate artificial demand to sell bluerays
We don’t get all the European programs that we want to see either. Here in the US, we are encouraged to get a VPN.
Well, use some pirate sites.
Im just gonna buy the box set. I have a reigion free player so i can import if need be.
I loved the show! Great review!
I may have missed it with Nick's review, but the USS Archer looked like a scout ship with a crew of at least 50 people. I only saw three crew members. Where were the other crew members?
my guess for this "plot hole" is that it's a heavily automated ship and the crew is just 3 people... i know it's stupid like what if hey get attacked... we saw in STIII what happens when automated ships get hit at the right spot... they stop working lol
In the holideck
@@joeswanson733 I'm a huge Star Trek fan I used to play the old FASA tabletop game is a kid and that was definitely a Hermes class scout. I dug out my old book from the basement and you're right it's supposed to have a crew of 195 crew and officers. So my guess is they completely automated the systems on that ship to be ran by a "chimpanzee and two trainees."
They don't explain why it's only 3 crew members, but Spock brings it up as interesting, so they're not hiding it etc. Maybe it'll be explained in the next episode?
@@GPsarakis maybe to test the new automatic systems?
This gave me and Emotion i lost in Disco and Picard. I smiled sooo much and Yeppp I cried on that Speech he gave.
Just an Observation i saw when the Aliens were on the Steps looking at the Ship with the News woman talking ...They looked like they were wearing 60s clothes and look at there hair..close to 60s style.
One of the things I liked about this, moment when Captain Christopher Pike beamed in the conference room, was actually showing our history, brutally and honestly. This brought back to mind TOS, where as aliens would scan the Enterprise, they would learn about our barbaric history, but here is the Enterprise with it's crew. An excellent moment.
Not the shaved head, that dont fit 60s style on bit. Only issue with the cast I can see right now.
@@martinbechman6633 U
Didnt read what part i was talking about apparently.
@@Tinrs80 obviously he was too busy making sure there were no transgressions against the sacred Star Trek thou shalt not do ANYTHING that wasn’t in TOS texts……how DARE they have a hairstyle that isn’t a bouffant beehive
Actually I enjoy the series with a continuous story. It makes the show more interesting and gives me a reason to keep coming back each week.
@JJnS Farms your statement is completely False and wrong all the way.
Now, That's what I call Star Trek !!!! 🖖
Great first episode, despite the plot holes.
I was expecting Spock to make him forget as was the case with kirk in TOS. What a horror to know the exact date (10 years) when your life will become a horror.
I think what is interesting is that we now see that Spock probably began formulating the events in "The Menagerie" right after the events in "The Cage", long before the accident actually happens to Pike.
yay i love star trek again
It was all right. History of earth in three minutes, thank you Klatu , without Patricia Neal, but Spock and Pike
If they have introduce Kirk brother and April they have to introduce Gary Mitchell
Yeah, figuring out out they reversed engineered warp technology, would create a WTF moment for a techno-nerd.
It's like a homecoming, finally. Love it
They take a starship to an other planet with 3 people on board.... not even an engineer with them.
If the planet fired on the enterprise as soon as they showed up, why didn't they destroy the USS Archer sitting there with no Shields up.
I've watched "Amok Time: too many times to count since 1967. I must have missed something. I think the scenes with T'Pring and Spock in this first episode are based on some warped recollection of a scriptwriter who heard about "Amok Time" and the Vulcans, in general, third hand from a teenager with raging hormones.
T’Pring and Spock were engaged but T’Pring fell in love with another Vulcan in the meantime. So you know, there is some room for drama, especially since we saw Nurse Chapel and Spock on what looked like a date in one of the teasers.
Yeah, but if you watch Amok Time again, you’ll notice that it establishes that Spock hasn’t seen T’Pring since childhood. That’s even why he’s sitting staring at a monitor that has a picture of T’Pring at age 12 or something. So yeah, we can call it what it is, a retcon.
@@bcs2em625 so?
Why did Una and crew leave the Archer to be captured?
Because he ordered them to.
Finally, a real Star Trek episode. Looking forward to more.