Loved Spock seemingly accepting his half human status. Makes reference to the Klingon Captain that he is indeed not a typical Vulcan. Hope Carol Kane stays as Ship Engineer the rest of the season. She adds a bit of light humor.
Did anyone else notice the change in Spock's appearance? His hair looks more like a helmet, higher on his forehead, his sideburns are shorter, no slight curl at the ends, his eyebrows are more angled downward. He looks slightly emasculated. I loved it that Spock had such a masculine look in S1.
One other thing about the new engineer worthy of mention.... Besides being bored with her day job....It was also revealed that she knew Spock's mother... When she referred to Spock as the son of Amanda Grayson.... It shows that Amanda Grayson was no lightweight to capture the attention of someone who had experienced so much and so many
I thought Scotty was coming back, not Dr. Ruth? Less than impressed with the second season opener. Spock needs to get his feelings in check. He is half Vulcan too, lest we forget.
@@jonearleyYou don’t remember telling ass laughing as Spock before the character came together? Which could also fit with growth I guess(I don’t like to write head canon for them)
@@jonearley Also.... This new Engineer most likely knows Scotty... There is a novel out there about how he argued with his instructors on a regular basis....
Carol Kane may not be an Andorian but she is a very experienced actor with her own brand of “alieness” about her. She’ll help Spock in “storming the castle”. 😆
Her character could be similar to Guinan and Boothbe in TNG - the long-lived alien who gives helpful advice that saves the crew. I look forward to seeing more of her backstory like how she met Spock's mother...
I loved the episode. I loved the feeling and Pelia was HILARIOUS. The Klingons were AMAZING. They are Klingons, the whole setting, the feeling they were the Klingons I mostly remember! But what will always stay with me from this episode.... "I WANT THE SHIP TO GO!" That cracked me up beyond anything.
@Sci-Finatics Hello Nick, it is so good to be back. I did like this episode a lot as it was fun to watch, especially the light hearted moments. That said for me personally, I enjoyed the pilot episode much more. I found this episode to be not as strong as the previous episodes as well as due to the focus on action. I was so happy to see Spock having a huge focus on him as well as the other members of the crew. I thought the CGI was spectacular especially with the eye candy of star base one. Spock-I loved the character work of Spock in this episode, seeing how he executed the role of being a captain for the first time, as well as how he dealt with trying to quell his emotions, via the Vulcan lute. I am really enjoying seeing the fleshing of the younger version of Spock leading into the TOS era. Regarding the stealing of the Enterprise, I was surprised with Spock’s decision, as it was quite quick, without much discussion and thought of the consequences , especially under his watch being a first time captain. I also thought that him leaving the bridge to see Nurse chapel was impulsive and non-Vulcan like...not captain like behaviour. I am also interested to see how the Chapel/T’Pring love triangle leads up to the TOS. I just loved the scene where he negotiated with the Klingon and drinking blood wine, stating “Indeed”. Klingons- I was pleased to see that the Klingons looked more like the Klingons from the TOS movies. And I also found it interesting to learn more about the post Klingon war era and how it affected M’Benga and Nurse Chapel, giving more depth to their characters. The only part of the episode that didn’t work for me was the action scene with them fighting and defeating the Klingons and seeing Nurse Chapel not looking heavily battered and bruised. It really appeared far-fetched, awkward, far too forced and went on for too long. I am excited to see more of the eccentric, fun and fascinating Pelia, the interaction between her and the crew members, such as Spock, La’an, Una and to learn more about her alien history. She will fit in well with the TOS universe.
I hope at some point they bring back Kor as a younger commander. Seeing Kor , Koloth or Kang as younger officers would be delightful. How about a captain Bob Wesley?
I thougt it funny that they were using green serum to hulk out. Apart from that: not a fan of the fighting. Where did they get the skill to flatten a dozen Klingons? Drunk Spock: hilarious. Phantastic acting from Ethan Peck. What's everyone's issue with Pelia's accent? I'm not even a native speaker, but had no problems understanding her.
They are using a crossfield class sauser section, and must be using its transponder. As Jordi said in Picard season 3, you can't reprogram a transponder and change that info
S2 Ep1 has reawakened my love for Star trek. Season 1 helped raise it, S2 sealed it. I love how it showed that Spock was completely capable of stepping up into pike's shoes when needed, and yet kept his own identity as well. And not afraid to do what's right.
My personal theory with the Crossfield class ship is that it is a pre-refit version, that the USS Discovery and USS Glenn were upgraded to the design we've already seen for the sole purpose of developing and deploying the spore drive. It would definitely follow the design aesthetic more realistically.
S2E1 is absolutely EXCELLENT! Loved every minute of it. The whole "Strange New Worlds" series, plotline, acting, special effects, and brevity just hits a "sweet spot" for the entire franchise IMHO. Those ruby red crystals flying by was just mesmerizing...and that green stuff the doctor/nurse took --- what was it exactly? I gotta get some! 🙃
It took 3 days to finish. Sorry but this is not Star Trek. Boring meaningless fight scenes unprofessional dialogue plus the writers have NO tactical experience. I can't even enjoy this went I am bored. Thank God it wasn't playing in prime time nobody would ever watch it
@@dandeliondown7920 And what exactly was Carol Kane doing? How could anyone like her? Am I mad? Have I gone insane? What other proof do we need that this is the mirror universe Star Trek?
Missed opportunity for that transporter chief to shine. He could have been monitoring for signals from Mbenga and Chapel's comm badges and rescued them without waiting for Spock's orders and been a bit of a hero. Oh well, maybe next time
Interesting that many 'firsts' in ST are Klingon centric: TMP (V'Ger attack), Enterprise: 'Broken Arrow,' Discovery: 'Vulcan Hello; and now SNW (S2): 'The Broken Circle'
Do you think the implication of the Lanthanites was that Flint was one? There was a rumour that Flint would have appeared in the planned 5th season of Enterprise and that Archer would have learned his nature, this would line up with Lanthanites being discovered in the 22nd century.
Ethan Peck is playing Spock brilliantly; or at least the way we would love to see Spock. Spock isn't quite mature enough yet to have his human side tamed and I am enjoying this character very much.
and yet he had it tamed at the beginning of Season 1. He seems to be falling apart emotionally just like he did in discovery. Very confusing for this character. I'm assuming he also would have learned to control his emotions growing up on Vulcan but that doesn't seem to be the case either. And Vulcans are supposed to be even more strongly emotive than humans.
@@Patricia599 Despite how Spock may have been played in the past, he is not all Vulcan, he is 50% Human. I like how that is being acknowledged more here. His problems started when he let his "walls" down and left rage out to fight a Gorn. He is having issues putting those walls up, especially when it concerns Chapple. 8-)
Seriously! Y’all about a course correction. That ugly caterpillar created this butterfly. Now bugger off with the remainder. Use that budget for something worth our time (cough monster maroon lost years cough)
@@Knightfall182 Pike and Spock came in to Disco Season 2 (more or less to save it), and then people wanted more of them. So yeah, without disco i guess we would have never gotten this show.
@@beldin2987 Well by that logic, we wouldn't have gotten Pike and Spock without Gene as well, or the JJ films that made those characters viable again. This show exists, if anything, despite STD.
I'm glad they stuck with klingons that were started with TMP and not the Kelvin or Disco klingons. I would even liked to have seen a mixture of the TOS with TMP. That would have made it fun for me.😊
Yes it is great to see Paramount has discovered there are people outside the US and have decided to release it the same time in other places, not having to wait a day later to see it here in Australia. I totally loved this episode and to the idiots that keep complaining about New Trek just stop watching it.
I’d like to know fan’s attitude towards M’Benga’s secret super serum he apparently created during the war. It appears only Chapel was privy to it. You think they’ll keep it secret, which is my viewpoint, they’d be court-martial for sure if Federation found out, and I see Pike as having distaste toward it.
I'm not sure it was a serum created by M'Benga. It could be the Federation supplied it to their soldiers (the way the U.S. government wishes it could in the Marvel world) in order to help them survive a Klingon attack. However M'Benga seems to have held onto some of it in what must be against Starfleet regulations.
I really liked this episode. Everyone did a phenomenal job. I am wondering how they are going to resolve the Gorn situation. I had the impression no one had seen a Gorn before Kirk did. Now they're about to start a war?
I suppose they will explain it in terms of noone has seen a Gorn per say. Heard about them and maybe stories from survivors of attacks but not necessarily seen
I wish they would declare this officially and alternate universe because I am totally rooting for Spock/Chapel. Its amazing what they've done with Chapel in this series but it has to be an alt universe as it doesn't jibe with TOS.
True, but this is before TOS, anything can happen, I recall T'pring and Spock not working lasting in TOS. I like the dynamic between Chapel and Spock, one very reserved and the other with a lot of spunk. Very good yin and yang chemistry, much better than the Spock and Uhura relationship in the reboot trilogy.
I also was never opposed to alternate realities. It has been mentioned in nearly every series about alternate realities and to take a series from the perspective of a different universe is a perfect concept for a Trek show or movie. We have decades of Trek in the Prime universe to forever rewatch and enjoy, an alternate universe is absolutely welcome so long as it's still taken with care, which it has so far with SNW and I'm very pleased with it.
The airlock scene was ridiculous. They would be instantly dead when confronted with a 10e-17 Torr pressure. Think of a Stretch Armstrong or a soda-pop can in a vacuum chamber. SPLAT!
It was a fine episode in itself. However, I don't think an episode almost devoid of Pike and Number One should have served as the season premiere. Just doesn't make much sense to me.
Nice to see the Klingons back to normal. Plus, I hope they clarify the Spock/Chapell relationship this season. As for the Gorn we knew they were coming.
Episode missed calming dad role of Pike and mum role of No.1 while the new old lady engineer was unintelligible. Nurse Chapel fighting large Klingons was not believable, even on stims. Hope it gets better.
Exactly. I had to turn on subtitles to catch what she was saying. I also rolled my eyes during the fight scene. Her fists should be hamburger after that. I was expecting they would become like super assassins and be more creative than just punching in the face over and over again
That was an aspect I also really didn't like. The writers should be careful to introduce miracle solutions like that, because then they have to answer the question in future epsisodes why it isn't used all the time. They didn't even show any negative side effects, which might serve as an explanation. Every story universe needs internal consistency and stuff like that just needlessly throws this consistency out the window.
Lazy writing for the whole supervile thing.... They could have used their brains to figure out how to escape from the Klingons instead of taking something that we've never heard of and making you invincible that was a bit laughable
I love Carol Kane. She is already a great new character. I really enjoyed the episode. This new season looks to be killer! I'm really happy that the Klingons once again are back to being the cool, bad assed Hells Angels of Space.
there actually was a Discovery era Klingon sitting at the table next to La'an during the drinking scene. thought it was genius they had a mi because the Klingons have an empire so variations would make evolutionary sense - almost like the Vulcans and Romulans or even the rigged Romulans vs the smooth headed Romans. Also the green drug was the one used during WW3 for the super soldiers.
It was a Crossfield class design before having Spore drives fitted. we see the USS Discovery in Disco S1e1 before & after it had Spore drives fitted. I liked the use of the different Nacelle design. So goes to show there was more Crossfields out there than the USS Crossfield & the Discovery & they didnt all have Spore drives.
If you want to find such breaches of canon, you will find plenty. Even more you will find between TNG and TOS, within TNG (e.g. have a look at the borg at the first encounter and their lack of any desire to assimilate), between DS9 and TNG (the Ferengi are not pathetic), between TNG and the motion pictures (WHERE does Scotty die/disappear?), within the movies (the mere existing of "the motion picture"), and so on. By the way. If you want to criticize something here, it would rather be "Galileo 7". Spock is commander and first officer on an important spaceship but never had any command experience? That is plainly ridiculous.
Addionally, in "Menagery", 5 episodes before "the Galileo 7", Spock highjacks the Enterprise, so it definitely not the first time he takes command in "the Galileo 7" even within TOS canon.
Regarding the Gorn. I have a theory that the Gorn we see fighting Kirk in the OS is an "elderly" Gorn. That is why he is so large and slow. Perhaps their species uses the very young and energetic "children" to be the badass fighters to take down their adversaries. They are small, agile, and ferocious and vicious killers. As they age they may become more calm and intelligent. At this stage in their lives they could be building and manning ships and be quite technological capable. As they grow older they may slow down considerably but still have a high sense of intelligence as we see in the Gorn that fought Kirk. Remember the Gorn that fought Kirk had also bee kidnapped and placed on that planet for entertainment. They could have easily just kidnapped a very old and slow Gorn!!
There not going to explain anything. There writing for a younger audience that is not ankered to 1960 canon I read comments were some people had no clue captain pike will be disfigured at all. It was a total shock surprise.
Fun fact that ship the Klingon built isn't a crossfiled class the reason why it's called the crossfiled class it because it has a crossfiled class souser section
I still would like to see some smooth head conflict but they can’t be subservient because there is NO WAY and I WILL NOT accept if they say this part of some not well thought out political wanna be point while totally forgetting Kor Kang and Koloth: Smoothers who obviously had the surgery later on. I’ll accept if they throw in Disco Klingons. I mean we have Hispanics, Asians and so many different confusing kinds(I just found out an associate and all of their family I know is Korean and not Rich Japanese Lexus drivers, wild) African people and natives all over that have spritual “mutilations”. I accept all variations of Klingons as long as the writings hood. THEY JUST BETTER NOT DISRESPECT THE DAHAR MASTERS.
I think this is a topic where we just have to accept that TOS didn't have the money to make Klingons look good. As soon as they did have money in the movies, they fixed that. I know that there was a retconned explanation in ENT, but to be honest, it is better to just forget the TOS Klingon design. It didn't look good.
@@james_halpert right. If you are going to judge TOS it really should be against it's peers instead of against graphics that are 60 years more mature and has the advantage of modern computers.
@@christopheryoder8292 I don't quite understand what you mean. Star Trek The Motion Picture came out in 1979 with basically no digital effects. The only difference was that they had more money for better prosthetics and thus decided to make Klingons look much more distinct from humans, which the majority of the audience perceived as "looking better".
Looks like a Crossfield class if it was redesigned with a TOS aesthetic. Which honestly I think is great. Keep the base design but give it a style overhaul to fit the rest of the show.
I loved the episode. I could of done without the super serum (seemed out of place for star trek) and the weird upside down rotating camera bit.. but other than that.. I liked it.
I didn't understand the rotating camera at all. It rotated and 3 seconds later it rotated back and nothing gravity defying happened in between. Didn't make sense to me.
You can't introduce the serum with explaining at some point why it wasn't mass produced for combat. I hope they explore that. Perhaps it affects your aggression in a murderous way.
@@alejandronopasanada5302 they did follow through with the daughter being hidden in the transporter storyline. Remember. They have to find a way of giving the guy a demotion by the time bones takes over as doctor. Because mbenga was still on the enterprise, but he was just a assistant. . Even if it was for just two episodes in the original TV show. Perhaps this serum stuff does it. Or maybe not ,as you pointed out.
Oh an there was a Klingon or two that reminded me of the Klingon makeup in the Star Trek In To Darkness. The other were like in the ST Movies. There was a mix of styles. I would even have like to have seen a Discovery style Klingon. They all don't have to look alike!
Yeah I wish they had a few augment virus victims and disco klingons, to tie things together. I did like how classically tng la’an’s first drinking buddy looked.
I can accept a few ridgeless virus victim Klingons, even though I think it would look a bit silly in such an expensive looking show as SNW. But please no STD Klingons, I just want to forget that whole mess of a show, from the tasteless and weird design all the way to the abysmal story and characters.
@@james_halpert I dunno, I really like Discover season 1 and 2. I like a new take on the Klingons. Not every alien can look human but have weird skin color and antennas or tusks. Those Klingons were done right scary. I wish they would of had the actors speak English (We know they aren't but for out sake, it's easier to follow a story without reading sub-titles or not reading those titles fast enough). I think they looked rather good and much more alien than the drunk pirates of the Movie/TOS and DS9 era who were more bark than bite.
@@Daveyk021 Drunk pirates, I love that image ;-) New and bold designs are great, but apply it to new races. They shouldn't have changed a beloved existing design, just created their own. But I guess that's a general problem these days. All these Hollywood types just want to re-imagine and therefore often destroy beloved existing things instead of just creating something new of their own.
The super serum stuff I think will come back to haunt MBenga. If he invented it or is found using it, he could be demoted or go to prison for awhile. Which would explain why he’s under MCCoy later on . Same with Chapel , could explain why she’s still a Nurse during Kirks time.
Great episode - this series does justice to the legacy of standalone episode of the week. One problem I had with was several points in this episode were very dark, like the infamous Game of Thrones dark episode. It was probably done for 4K TV effect, but while I have a 4K TV, I watched it on my iPad and even with brightness all the way up, couldn’t hardly make out anything. I hope this was a one off and they don’t continue this darkness. (Insert obvious ‘Into Darkness’ joke reference here, LOL)
Overall I liked this first episode of S2...but really take issue with Chapel and the Doctor surviving in space for a couple minutes before being beamed on board Enterprise! In reality, their blood being so much warmer than the absolute zero temp of space, would cause it to boil and then blood vessels would explode, and then death.
@@Patricia599sorry to say but it would boil because of the low pressure (or non existent pressure) And their bodies would be just like puffed Cerialis xD there is definitely no way to survive that in reality
Let me tell you buddy, I look at a lot of Star Trek channels, but when you spliced into your video "IT'S A FAKE!" from Vreenak, you won yourself a new subscriber, lol.
So when I take Cannon out of the equation and just think this is an alternate timeline or universe then I could enjoy this show because I cannot tolerate breaking Canon and also the way they are portraying Spock that is why therefore I believe this is an alternate universe which Star Trek Discovery established stating there are very many multivarses
Remember Chapel has a thing for him in the original so hes probbly going to the forgetting thing he did to Kirk to her or something to himself...I think mistake on Goran as they weren't identified till TOS.. i dont like that.
@7:38 (bad Klingon outfits in Season 1 Discovery) So, are we going to have a purge of Discovery from Star Trek canon? It's inclusion in canon already destines the Federation to 100 years of chaos and depression (after the Burn, IIRC). It limits the whole Trek enterprise. I enjoyed the beginning of Discovery, but after the Burn season, and then seeing the next "Anomaly" season, I just gave up on it. Season-long depressive Trek is not enticing at all. I think it might be better if we just forget the whole series ever existed (like many of the movies ;-) FWIW, I love what's happening with Strange New Worlds. I cried with Spock when Nurse Chapman came back to life! I enjoyed other Trek series, but they were iterative advancements on Trek. SNW is a return to form on more ways than one: it surprises me the way The Original Series did at the time. Discovery may have tried to do this, but what came out is not really Trek at all. Even The Orville is more Trek than Discovery was.
As for Spock’s “thing” to make the ship go, wouldn’t it be fascinating if he lands on “Engage?” This would loosely tie him with Picard much later. We know Spock meets Picard in The Unification episodes of TNG, but who’s to say he didn’t also meet him earlier when PIcard was on the Stargazer? Just food for thought. 🤷♂️
I just kinda wished the engineer would’ve been a changeling. Could’ve still pulled off the exact same “prolonged life/hiding among humans” trope. Would’ve been a nice tie-in with TNG/DS9, but oh well. I still like the Charakter. I also kinda didn’t like the fact that they used Klingons as the “bad guys” again. Not very honorable, at least. I am willing to believe there are small factions of rogue Klingons, but 30+… I don’t know. They might as well have used any other alien species or even humans.
What's interesting is that the stolen pirate ship is a crossfield class. I'd figure all the crossfield blueprints would have been classified after the Glenn and Discovery
Maybe we will find out they were. That ship looked nothing like a crossfield class. That would be so dumb…so so dumb if they did this throwback to say “hay, remember this? Yeah, we made it a whole other existing ship…ya know cause SECRET!” Shut up Star Trek, other people saw that ship. Please I hope they don’t get dumb like that.
Shipping Chapel and M'Benga a bit more than Chapel and Spock (since we know that latter is doomed and M'Benga is such a sweetie - though not to combatant Klingons).
Thanks to the prophets we don’t have to wait an extra 24 hours to see it in Australia! I can watch it Thursday nights instead of getting home late after work Friday and watching it! Yay!
I hope they do boldly go and do discover some strange new worlds and not just another season of Star trek show dealing with war agaist the federation. Did enjoy this episode.
For Nichelle.
Who was First through the door and showed us the stars.
Hailing Frequencies Forever Open...
Good words.
@@PaulChristianJenkinsJDYes they are and truly missed. RIP Nichelle Nichols.
Loved Spock seemingly accepting his half human status. Makes reference to the Klingon Captain that he is indeed not a typical Vulcan. Hope Carol Kane stays as Ship Engineer the rest of the season. She adds a bit of light humor.
I am hearing shades of her performance in Scrooged... She is a top of the line actresss
This new engineer is never going to panic. She's seen it all.
Latka's wife.
@@PaulChristianJenkinsJDAnd Miracle Max's wife too.
Did anyone else notice the change in Spock's appearance? His hair looks more like a helmet, higher on his forehead, his sideburns are shorter, no slight curl at the ends, his eyebrows are more angled downward. He looks slightly emasculated. I loved it that Spock had such a masculine look in S1.
One other thing about the new engineer worthy of mention.... Besides being bored with her day job....It was also revealed that she knew Spock's mother... When she referred to Spock as the son of Amanda Grayson.... It shows that Amanda Grayson was no lightweight to capture the attention of someone who had experienced so much and so many
I thought Scotty was coming back, not Dr. Ruth? Less than impressed with the second season opener. Spock needs to get his feelings in check. He is half Vulcan too, lest we forget.
@@jonearleyYou don’t remember telling ass laughing as Spock before the character came together? Which could also fit with growth I guess(I don’t like to write head canon for them)
That’s pretty cool and to be expected in the kind of woman that may grab hood to Sarek who was supposed to be among the best of Vulcans.
@@alejandronopasanada5302 True
@@jonearley Also.... This new Engineer most likely knows Scotty... There is a novel out there about how he argued with his instructors on a regular basis....
Carol Kane may not be an Andorian but she is a very experienced actor with her own brand of “alieness” about her. She’ll help Spock in “storming the castle”. 😆
But still difficult to understand. No more accents from her.
Her character could be similar to Guinan and Boothbe in TNG - the long-lived alien who gives helpful advice that saves the crew. I look forward to seeing more of her backstory like how she met Spock's mother...
EE-Bee-DAH!
(please or thank you .. one of the two)
11:25 It looks like the Broken Circle had the saucer section of a Crossfield attached to whatever secondary hull and nacelles they could find.
You know what they say: Klingon today, Gorn tomorrow
New game - take a drink every time Nick says 'Quirky" about Pelia!
I loved the episode. I loved the feeling and Pelia was HILARIOUS. The Klingons were AMAZING. They are Klingons, the whole setting, the feeling they were the Klingons I mostly remember!
But what will always stay with me from this episode.... "I WANT THE SHIP TO GO!"
That cracked me up beyond anything.
Now!
@Sci-Finatics Hello Nick, it is so good to be back. I did like this episode a lot as it was fun to watch, especially the light hearted moments. That said for me personally, I enjoyed the pilot episode much more. I found this episode to be not as strong as the previous episodes as well as due to the focus on action. I was so happy to see Spock having a huge focus on him as well as the other members of the crew.
I thought the CGI was spectacular especially with the eye candy of star base one.
Spock-I loved the character work of Spock in this episode, seeing how he executed the role of being a captain for the first time, as well as how he dealt with trying to quell his emotions, via the Vulcan lute. I am really enjoying seeing the fleshing of the younger version of Spock leading into the TOS era. Regarding the stealing of the Enterprise, I was surprised with Spock’s decision, as it was quite quick, without much discussion and thought of the consequences , especially under his watch being a first time captain. I also thought that him leaving the bridge to see Nurse chapel was impulsive and non-Vulcan like...not captain like behaviour. I am also interested to see how the Chapel/T’Pring love triangle leads up to the TOS.
I just loved the scene where he negotiated with the Klingon and drinking blood wine, stating “Indeed”.
Klingons- I was pleased to see that the Klingons looked more like the Klingons from the TOS movies. And I also found it interesting to learn more about the post Klingon war era and how it affected M’Benga and Nurse Chapel, giving more depth to their characters. The only part of the episode that didn’t work for me was the action scene with them fighting and defeating the Klingons and seeing Nurse Chapel not looking heavily battered and bruised. It really appeared far-fetched, awkward, far too forced and went on for too long.
I am excited to see more of the eccentric, fun and fascinating Pelia, the interaction between her and the crew members, such as Spock, La’an, Una and to learn more about her alien history. She will fit in well with the TOS universe.
I hope at some point they bring back Kor as a younger commander. Seeing Kor , Koloth or Kang as younger officers would be delightful. How about a captain Bob Wesley?
I thougt it funny that they were using green serum to hulk out. Apart from that: not a fan of the fighting. Where did they get the skill to flatten a dozen Klingons?
Drunk Spock: hilarious. Phantastic acting from Ethan Peck.
What's everyone's issue with Pelia's accent? I'm not even a native speaker, but had no problems understanding her.
They are using a crossfield class sauser section, and must be using its transponder. As Jordi said in Picard season 3, you can't reprogram a transponder and change that info
S2 Ep1 has reawakened my love for Star trek. Season 1 helped raise it, S2 sealed it.
I love how it showed that Spock was completely capable of stepping up into pike's shoes when needed, and yet kept his own identity as well.
And not afraid to do what's right.
My personal theory with the Crossfield class ship is that it is a pre-refit version, that the USS Discovery and USS Glenn were upgraded to the design we've already seen for the sole purpose of developing and deploying the spore drive. It would definitely follow the design aesthetic more realistically.
Excellent point and so true.
Do we know the name of the Klingon captain that Spoke drank with? Because it looks like that it might be a younger version of Chancellor Grocan.
S2E1 is absolutely EXCELLENT! Loved every minute of it. The whole "Strange New Worlds" series, plotline, acting, special effects, and brevity just hits a "sweet spot" for the entire franchise IMHO. Those ruby red crystals flying by was just mesmerizing...and that green stuff the doctor/nurse took --- what was it exactly? I gotta get some! 🙃
It took 3 days to finish. Sorry but this is not Star Trek. Boring meaningless fight scenes unprofessional dialogue plus the writers have NO tactical experience. I can't even enjoy this went I am bored. Thank God it wasn't playing in prime time nobody would ever watch it
this show is absolutely the greatest start to a Star Trek show ever. season 1 was phenomenal, and s2 ep1 was a dam good start.
The greatest…since TOS of course. ;)
It was a great start for the 2nd season.
I think Star Trek is more than just action, explosions, and seen Spock cry.
@@valueofnothing2487 And Star Trek is not about medical teams taking drugs to become fierce fighters.
@@dandeliondown7920
And what exactly was Carol Kane doing? How could anyone like her? Am I mad? Have I gone insane? What other proof do we need that this is the mirror universe Star Trek?
Missed opportunity for that transporter chief to shine. He could have been monitoring for signals from Mbenga and Chapel's comm badges and rescued them without waiting for Spock's orders and been a bit of a hero. Oh well, maybe next time
They don't have comm badges. The sensors on the bridge picked up a beacon in the EVA equipment.
That was not Zathros you showed on screen when you spoke his name.
It was Zathros.
Interesting that many 'firsts' in ST are Klingon centric: TMP (V'Ger attack), Enterprise: 'Broken Arrow,' Discovery: 'Vulcan Hello; and now SNW (S2): 'The Broken Circle'
Do you think the implication of the Lanthanites was that Flint was one? There was a rumour that Flint would have appeared in the planned 5th season of Enterprise and that Archer would have learned his nature, this would line up with Lanthanites being discovered in the 22nd century.
Flint claimed to be completely human.
The season premiere was one of the best episodes of any Star Trek series I have ever seen, and I may have seen every one ever released.
When was your last cat scan?
Your easily pleased.
@@opinionateddrone what a lovely way of sharing your opinion.
Ethan Peck is playing Spock brilliantly; or at least the way we would love to see Spock. Spock isn't quite mature enough yet to have his human side tamed and I am enjoying this character very much.
You crazy
@@JoeCroninSHOW That's not the first time I've been accused of that - lol.
and yet he had it tamed at the beginning of Season 1. He seems to be falling apart emotionally just like he did in discovery. Very confusing for this character. I'm assuming he also would have learned to control his emotions growing up on Vulcan but that doesn't seem to be the case either. And Vulcans are supposed to be even more strongly emotive than humans.
@@Patricia599 Despite how Spock may have been played in the past, he is not all Vulcan, he is 50% Human. I like how that is being acknowledged more here. His problems started when he let his "walls" down and left rage out to fight a Gorn. He is having issues putting those walls up, especially when it concerns Chapple. 8-)
The only thing I thank Discovery for is the creation of this wonderful show.
Seriously! Y’all about a course correction. That ugly caterpillar created this butterfly. Now bugger off with the remainder. Use that budget for something worth our time (cough monster maroon lost years cough)
Lol what sour grapes.
Lol... Discovery didn't do shit. If anything this show is counterprogramming for Discovery
@@Knightfall182 Pike and Spock came in to Disco Season 2 (more or less to save it), and then people wanted more of them. So yeah, without disco i guess we would have never gotten this show.
@@beldin2987 Well by that logic, we wouldn't have gotten Pike and Spock without Gene as well, or the JJ films that made those characters viable again. This show exists, if anything, despite STD.
I'm glad they stuck with klingons that were started with TMP and not the Kelvin or Disco klingons. I would even liked to have seen a mixture of the TOS with TMP. That would have made it fun for me.😊
I would like the ship to go…now
Yes it is great to see Paramount has discovered there are people outside the US and have decided to release it the same time in other places, not having to wait a day later to see it here in Australia. I totally loved this episode and to the idiots that keep complaining about New Trek just stop watching it.
I actually don't watch new Trek except SNW
@@pedasnif you don’t watch Prodigy or Lower Decks, you’re missing a lot.
Thanks for the review. I'm glad to see so many positive comments. I'm still wondering how they made an episode with no Captain and Number 1.
I’d like to know fan’s attitude towards M’Benga’s secret super serum he apparently created during the war. It appears only Chapel was privy to it. You think they’ll keep it secret, which is my viewpoint, they’d be court-martial for sure if Federation found out, and I see Pike as having distaste toward it.
I'm not sure it was a serum created by M'Benga. It could be the Federation supplied it to their soldiers (the way the U.S. government wishes it could in the Marvel world) in order to help them survive a Klingon attack. However M'Benga seems to have held onto some of it in what must be against Starfleet regulations.
I really liked this episode. Everyone did a phenomenal job. I am wondering how they are going to resolve the Gorn situation. I had the impression no one had seen a Gorn before Kirk did. Now they're about to start a war?
I suppose they will explain it in terms of noone has seen a Gorn per say. Heard about them and maybe stories from survivors of attacks but not necessarily seen
I wish they would declare this officially and alternate universe because I am totally rooting for Spock/Chapel. Its amazing what they've done with Chapel in this series but it has to be an alt universe as it doesn't jibe with TOS.
Agree.
True, but this is before TOS, anything can happen, I recall T'pring and Spock not working lasting in TOS. I like the dynamic between Chapel and Spock, one very reserved and the other with a lot of spunk. Very good yin and yang chemistry, much better than the Spock and Uhura relationship in the reboot trilogy.
I also was never opposed to alternate realities. It has been mentioned in nearly every series about alternate realities and to take a series from the perspective of a different universe is a perfect concept for a Trek show or movie. We have decades of Trek in the Prime universe to forever rewatch and enjoy, an alternate universe is absolutely welcome so long as it's still taken with care, which it has so far with SNW and I'm very pleased with it.
Was anyone perplexed amid the prolonged & ambitious fighting scene, especially being in the medical profession.. ?
Back to Star Trek Indifferent after the joy of Picard season 3
The airlock scene was ridiculous. They would be instantly dead when confronted with a 10e-17 Torr pressure. Think of a Stretch Armstrong or a soda-pop can in a vacuum chamber. SPLAT!
It was a fine episode in itself. However, I don't think an episode almost devoid of Pike and Number One should have served as the season premiere. Just doesn't make much sense to me.
Nice to see the Klingons back to normal. Plus, I hope they clarify the Spock/Chapell relationship this season.
As for the Gorn we knew they were coming.
These Klingons look right but have no honor and are a bunch of scaredy cat wusses
Does anyone else think that the flag officer at the end with April could have been Nogura?
I just lost 20 minutes in research…I’m a Star Trek fan so whatever.
The end credits shows he's Commodore TaFune played by Russell Yuen
Episode missed calming dad role of Pike and mum role of No.1 while the new old lady engineer was unintelligible. Nurse Chapel fighting large Klingons was not believable, even on stims. Hope it gets better.
Exactly. I had to turn on subtitles to catch what she was saying. I also rolled my eyes during the fight scene. Her fists should be hamburger after that. I was expecting they would become like super assassins and be more creative than just punching in the face over and over again
That was an aspect I also really didn't like. The writers should be careful to introduce miracle solutions like that, because then they have to answer the question in future epsisodes why it isn't used all the time. They didn't even show any negative side effects, which might serve as an explanation. Every story universe needs internal consistency and stuff like that just needlessly throws this consistency out the window.
Im glad it wasn’t just me. I couldn’t understand her either, low volumn compared to everyone else.
Same with Doctor M’Benga. I always struggle to hear what he is mumbling
@@krashmegiddo4960 Same I had no idea what either was going on about when making that decision. Then the bad slow mo fight was just comical.
I believe una person she needs to defend her could be T'apol ????
Great idea. Curious about this one.
On The Ready Room, they mentioned the name of this lawyer, but I didn’t hear the name clearly.
or,....Sarek?
Spock in 2:1 = Spock in original series pirating Enterprise for Pike!
hey, was Avery Brooks playing that klingon who was dealing with noonien-singh for the federation weapons?...those eyes look like his, lol....
There was one Discovery syle Klingon in the background at a table.
Spock’s favorite pastime stealing Enterprise
It’s probably how the Discovery would look if it was not being used as a test bed for the Spore drive.
about 400 years ago Pelia went by the name Simka and was married to a foreign garage mechanic at a cab company.
Lazy writing for the whole supervile thing.... They could have used their brains to figure out how to escape from the Klingons instead of taking something that we've never heard of and making you invincible that was a bit laughable
Nice to see the doctor mbenga is actually a first-generation augment from the Chrysalis project one of Khan's original Brothers
He just seems to have a lot of secrets.
Eventually he's going to get caught and have repercussions from it
@@kev30631So true. Look at what happened to Commander Chin Riley.
I love Carol Kane. She is already a great new character. I really enjoyed the episode. This new season looks to be killer! I'm really happy that the Klingons once again are back to being the cool, bad assed Hells Angels of Space.
there actually was a Discovery era Klingon sitting at the table next to La'an during the drinking scene. thought it was genius they had a mi because the Klingons have an empire so variations would make evolutionary sense - almost like the Vulcans and Romulans or even the rigged Romulans vs the smooth headed Romans. Also the green drug was the one used during WW3 for the super soldiers.
It was a Crossfield class design before having Spore drives fitted. we see the USS Discovery in Disco S1e1 before & after it had Spore drives fitted. I liked the use of the different Nacelle design. So goes to show there was more Crossfields out there than the USS Crossfield & the Discovery & they didnt all have Spore drives.
Upside down design
Wasn't Galileo-7 Spock's first command? The writers are not following canon again. And this is a big slip.
If you want to find such breaches of canon, you will find plenty. Even more you will find between TNG and TOS, within TNG (e.g. have a look at the borg at the first encounter and their lack of any desire to assimilate), between DS9 and TNG (the Ferengi are not pathetic), between TNG and the motion pictures (WHERE does Scotty die/disappear?), within the movies (the mere existing of "the motion picture"), and so on.
By the way. If you want to criticize something here, it would rather be "Galileo 7". Spock is commander and first officer on an important spaceship but never had any command experience? That is plainly ridiculous.
I'm all for this being a slightly alternate reality.
Addionally, in "Menagery", 5 episodes before "the Galileo 7", Spock highjacks the Enterprise, so it definitely not the first time he takes command in "the Galileo 7" even within TOS canon.
@@jamieroberts4543 Could live with that. To a degree, all Star Trek series are in a slightly alternate reality :D
Some time ago I went and searched through all of the episodes of ST:TOS & Kirk says " Engage " once.
Regarding the Gorn. I have a theory that the Gorn we see fighting Kirk in the OS is an "elderly" Gorn. That is why he is so large and slow. Perhaps their species uses the very young and energetic "children" to be the badass fighters to take down their adversaries. They are small, agile, and ferocious and vicious killers. As they age they may become more calm and intelligent. At this stage in their lives they could be building and manning ships and be quite technological capable. As they grow older they may slow down considerably but still have a high sense of intelligence as we see in the Gorn that fought Kirk. Remember the Gorn that fought Kirk had also bee kidnapped and placed on that planet for entertainment. They could have easily just kidnapped a very old and slow Gorn!!
There not going to explain anything. There writing for a younger audience that is not ankered to 1960 canon
I read comments were some people had no clue captain pike will be disfigured at all. It was a total shock surprise.
Uhura recognized the accent when she was in the turbo-lift. Uhua revealed that she was a Lanthanite.
AND FINALLY Paramount+ decided to release it simultaneously with the US (at least over here in Brazil), instead of about 18 hours later 😁
It was similar in Australia too.
Frustrates the pirates and spoiler babies. 😆
I love Pelia, very quirky, Im curious,...if she was in Earth centuries ago,..maybe she met Guinan...just a thinking exercise
Ld be cool if they did as carol kane was in the movie jumping jack flash with Whoopi Goldberg
Fun fact that ship the Klingon built isn't a crossfiled class the reason why it's called the crossfiled class it because it has a crossfiled class souser section
I thought Spock's first command was in "The Galileo Seven."
different universe or someone in the holodeck again
In the scene where we descend into the mines, a large hill is in the shape of a face. Do you know whose face that is?
But this should be the time period that Klingons had smooth heads.
Not all have smooth heads. Based on what was shown on ENT
I still would like to see some smooth head conflict but they can’t be subservient because there is NO WAY and I WILL NOT accept if they say this part of some not well thought out political wanna be point while totally forgetting Kor Kang and Koloth: Smoothers who obviously had the surgery later on. I’ll accept if they throw in Disco Klingons. I mean we have Hispanics, Asians and so many different confusing kinds(I just found out an associate and all of their family I know is Korean and not Rich Japanese Lexus drivers, wild) African people and natives all over that have spritual “mutilations”. I accept all variations of Klingons as long as the writings hood. THEY JUST BETTER NOT DISRESPECT THE DAHAR MASTERS.
I think this is a topic where we just have to accept that TOS didn't have the money to make Klingons look good. As soon as they did have money in the movies, they fixed that. I know that there was a retconned explanation in ENT, but to be honest, it is better to just forget the TOS Klingon design. It didn't look good.
@@james_halpert right. If you are going to judge TOS it really should be against it's peers instead of against graphics that are 60 years more mature and has the advantage of modern computers.
@@christopheryoder8292 I don't quite understand what you mean. Star Trek The Motion Picture came out in 1979 with basically no digital effects. The only difference was that they had more money for better prosthetics and thus decided to make Klingons look much more distinct from humans, which the majority of the audience perceived as "looking better".
I think their "Super Soldier" formula isn't Star Fleet sanctioned/issue.
Because Nurse Chaple is a Genealogist researcher.
I thought that Klingon captain was Michael Shannon (General Zod from Superman movie).
Looks like a Crossfield class if it was redesigned with a TOS aesthetic. Which honestly I think is great. Keep the base design but give it a style overhaul to fit the rest of the show.
*Spock* was in command during *The Cage* ... and he seemed fine with it
I was a bit confused, so thank you!
I loved the episode. I could of done without the super serum (seemed out of place for star trek) and the weird upside down rotating camera bit.. but other than that.. I liked it.
Yeah, I fell into my chair after the gym and smoking one. I saw that part and really paused to look and make sure what I was watching.
I didn't understand the rotating camera at all. It rotated and 3 seconds later it rotated back and nothing gravity defying happened in between. Didn't make sense to me.
You can't introduce the serum with explaining at some point why it wasn't mass produced for combat.
I hope they explore that. Perhaps it affects your aggression in a murderous way.
@@kev30631 what if 10 episodes from now they say nothing else about it 🤔🤣😂🤣
@@alejandronopasanada5302 they did follow through with the daughter being hidden in the transporter storyline. Remember.
They have to find a way of giving the guy a demotion by the time bones takes over as doctor. Because mbenga was still on the enterprise, but he was just a assistant. . Even if it was for just two episodes in the original TV show.
Perhaps this serum stuff does it. Or maybe not ,as you pointed out.
So the solution to Kobayashi Maru it's the challenge the opposing Captain to a drinking contest
Don't forget the Scotty drinking scene in TOS. Episode escapes me, bad guys steal the Enterprise, make it go to "plad" much fun is had.
Marianne Ravenswood was drinking an Australian mountain climber under the table in Raiders. The Tibetan locals were just placing bets.
Oh an there was a Klingon or two that reminded me of the Klingon makeup in the Star Trek In To Darkness. The other were like in the ST Movies. There was a mix of styles. I would even have like to have seen a Discovery style Klingon. They all don't have to look alike!
Yeah I wish they had a few augment virus victims and disco klingons, to tie things together. I did like how classically tng la’an’s first drinking buddy looked.
I can accept a few ridgeless virus victim Klingons, even though I think it would look a bit silly in such an expensive looking show as SNW. But please no STD Klingons, I just want to forget that whole mess of a show, from the tasteless and weird design all the way to the abysmal story and characters.
@@james_halpert I dunno, I really like Discover season 1 and 2. I like a new take on the Klingons. Not every alien can look human but have weird skin color and antennas or tusks. Those Klingons were done right scary. I wish they would of had the actors speak English (We know they aren't but for out sake, it's easier to follow a story without reading sub-titles or not reading those titles fast enough). I think they looked rather good and much more alien than the drunk pirates of the Movie/TOS and DS9 era who were more bark than bite.
@@Daveyk021 Drunk pirates, I love that image ;-) New and bold designs are great, but apply it to new races. They shouldn't have changed a beloved existing design, just created their own. But I guess that's a general problem these days. All these Hollywood types just want to re-imagine and therefore often destroy beloved existing things instead of just creating something new of their own.
The super serum stuff I think will come back to haunt MBenga. If he invented it or is found using it, he could be demoted or go to prison for awhile. Which would explain why he’s under MCCoy later on . Same with Chapel , could explain why she’s still a Nurse during Kirks time.
MBenga has PTSD I think that he may have some sort of break down sometime
@@chrisinnes2128 i think this might have something to do with his daughters mother?
Yes I'm thinking that too
No mention about Galdonterre? DS9 reference
Do you suppose PIke will get Sam Cogley as the defense attorney?
Oh I hope so.
Didn’t they say “She”? Maybe they’ll do the pronoun thing.
Oh, maybe it will be Areel Shaw
Better call Saul
Great episode - this series does justice to the legacy of standalone episode of the week. One problem I had with was several points in this episode were very dark, like the infamous Game of Thrones dark episode. It was probably done for 4K TV effect, but while I have a 4K TV, I watched it on my iPad and even with brightness all the way up, couldn’t hardly make out anything. I hope this was a one off and they don’t continue this darkness. (Insert obvious ‘Into Darkness’ joke reference here, LOL)
WOKE TRASH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Admiral April wasn't he the captain of Enterprise before Pike ? Also enjoyed episode 1 of season 2
Yes he was.
Right after having to rage against the Gorn poor Spock was put into command.
The result was fun but I hope it doesn't stick around too long.
Overall I liked this first episode of S2...but really take issue with Chapel and the Doctor surviving in space for a couple minutes before being beamed on board Enterprise! In reality, their blood being so much warmer than the absolute zero temp of space, would cause it to boil and then blood vessels would explode, and then death.
no their blood would not boil. However they would not survive that long due to the effects of vacuum and the drop in arterial pressure.
@@Patricia599sorry to say but it would boil because of the low pressure (or non existent pressure)
And their bodies would be just like puffed Cerialis xD there is definitely no way to survive that in reality
Let me tell you buddy, I look at a lot of Star Trek channels, but when you spliced into your video "IT'S A FAKE!" from Vreenak, you won yourself a new subscriber, lol.
Dr MBenga became Dr Badass! lol
So when I take Cannon out of the equation and just think this is an alternate timeline or universe then I could enjoy this show because I cannot tolerate breaking Canon and also the way they are portraying Spock that is why therefore I believe this is an alternate universe which Star Trek Discovery established stating there are very many multivarses
Canon nazis are the worst for Star Trek
Ethan peck is doing good with Spock. The movie Spock is much worse
Let's all pretend that TOS "ARENA" never happened.
In "Strage New Worlds," time, "Arena" hasn't happened---yet.
@@earth2006 exactly.
Remember Chapel has a thing for him in the original so hes probbly going to the forgetting thing he did to Kirk to her or something to himself...I think mistake on Goran as they weren't identified till TOS.. i dont like that.
@7:38 (bad Klingon outfits in Season 1 Discovery) So, are we going to have a purge of Discovery from Star Trek canon? It's inclusion in canon already destines the Federation to 100 years of chaos and depression (after the Burn, IIRC). It limits the whole Trek enterprise. I enjoyed the beginning of Discovery, but after the Burn season, and then seeing the next "Anomaly" season, I just gave up on it. Season-long depressive Trek is not enticing at all. I think it might be better if we just forget the whole series ever existed (like many of the movies ;-)
FWIW, I love what's happening with Strange New Worlds. I cried with Spock when Nurse Chapman came back to life!
I enjoyed other Trek series, but they were iterative advancements on Trek. SNW is a return to form on more ways than one: it surprises me the way The Original Series did at the time. Discovery may have tried to do this, but what came out is not really Trek at all. Even The Orville is more Trek than Discovery was.
Question: when are they going to get enough money to turn the damn lights on?!
As for Spock’s “thing” to make the ship go, wouldn’t it be fascinating if he lands on “Engage?” This would loosely tie him with Picard much later. We know Spock meets Picard in The Unification episodes of TNG, but who’s to say he didn’t also meet him earlier when PIcard was on the Stargazer? Just food for thought. 🤷♂️
I just kinda wished the engineer would’ve been a changeling. Could’ve still pulled off the exact same “prolonged life/hiding among humans” trope. Would’ve been a nice tie-in with TNG/DS9, but oh well. I still like the Charakter.
I also kinda didn’t like the fact that they used Klingons as the “bad guys” again. Not very honorable, at least. I am willing to believe there are small factions of rogue Klingons, but 30+… I don’t know. They might as well have used any other alien species or even humans.
What's interesting is that the stolen pirate ship is a crossfield class. I'd figure all the crossfield blueprints would have been classified after the Glenn and Discovery
Maybe we will find out they were. That ship looked nothing like a crossfield class. That would be so dumb…so so dumb if they did this throwback to say “hay, remember this? Yeah, we made it a whole other existing ship…ya know cause SECRET!” Shut up Star Trek, other people saw that ship. Please I hope they don’t get dumb like that.
Depends whether it was a refit version or original crossfield like Discovery and Glenn
It is a ka'athyra, a Vulcan Lyre.
Take a shot every time he says "quirky."
Since there probably where not many crossfields they could have miss identified it especially since it shares the cross fields saucer
This was Spock's first command, not the shuttle Galileo 7 ?? WTF !
Shipping Chapel and M'Benga a bit more than Chapel and Spock (since we know that latter is doomed and M'Benga is such a sweetie - though not to combatant Klingons).
That drug M'Benga and Chapel used HAD to be Jet.
Those domes with a biosphere are something I've never seen on Star Trek before. Really cool!!
Pretty sure they are a link to Silent Running
According to the news, Anson Mount had to be away for the birth of a child - thus his absence
Thanks to the prophets we don’t have to wait an extra 24 hours to see it in Australia! I can watch it Thursday nights instead of getting home late after work Friday and watching it! Yay!
Same here in Brazil, starts at same day as in USA.
Captain Gorkon
I hope they do boldly go and do discover some strange new worlds and not just another season of Star trek show dealing with war agaist the federation. Did enjoy this episode.