This is Why Tadej Pogacar might become the G.O.A.T. | ‘Physiological freak’ and master tactician
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Tadej Pogacar | ‘Physiological freak’ and master tactician with serene calmness.
From the perspective of his parents, team manager and coach. They describe Tadej Pogacar is a physiological marvel, master tactician and supremely calm in every situation.
It is these three attributes that make Tadej such a supremely talented bike rider, able to dominate on the world stage.
Early life
Tadej was born, 1998 in Slovenia. His mother a Teacher and Father a factory manager.
Pogacar and is brother as children were very good at unicycling, Tadej’s mother said. “Like clowns in the circus. They were famous around here, many people watched and admired when they came by.”
These unicycles were stolen, marking the end of unicycling for the Pogacar brothers, and the beginning of life on two wheels.
Cycling and racing passion begins
When he was 11 and racing against 14-year-olds, national coach Andrej Hauptman, a former pro who rode for Italian teams Lampre and Fassa Bortolo, turned up to watch one of his races.
He was concerned to see a small boy riding alone half a lap behind the peloton. He asked why the organisers didn’t ‘put him out of his misery’ and withdraw him.
‘He’s not half a lap down, he’s half a lap up,’ Hauptman was told. Within another lap or so Pogačar had lapped the bunch.
He would then go on to win Tour de l’Avenir,(‘race of the future’) one of the sport’s most prestigious under-23 races.
In 2017, aged 21, he was fifth in the Tour of Slovenia behind Rafal Majka, Giovanni Visconti, Jack Haig and Gregor Mühlberger. A year later he was back to place fourth behind Roglič, Rigoberto Urán and Matej Mohorič.
Signs with UAE
UAE-Team Emirates showed their interest early, tracking Pogačar for more than a year. There were also links through Hauptman. he had raced for the team in the early Noughties, when it was sponsored by Lampre, and talented Slovenians Luka Pibernik and Jan Polanc turned pro there from his Radenska team. Pogačar also signed up with Hauptman’s former agent, Alex Carera, who has worked with champions like Chris Froome, Thor Hushovd and Vincenzo Nibali.
Professional debut
As is indicative of his career so far. Andrej Hauptman, was once asked about the big challenges Pogačar has faced, about his struggles. He’s never had one,” he replies. Nothing? No crashes? “Never a problem. Always alert, focused, in the right place at the right time.
Pogacar lost his passport on the day the team was to depart Australia after the TDU, which just so happened to be independence day, a national public holiday. Tadej didn’t panic however remarked Team manager Peiper: “I saw how relaxed he was under pressure and I think that's one of his strongest traits.”
As the 2019 season progressed, it became clear that he had a gift for stage racing to go with this preternatural calm. His contract was redrafted after he won the Tour of the Algarve. It was followed by sixth place in the Tour of the Basque Country and a first World Tour victory in California.
Pogacar Physiology
Pogacars trainer Iñigo San Millán described the Slovenian as a “diamond that needed to be polished,” when he arrived at the team. “From testing, his recovery capacity on a muscular and mitochondrial level was judged to be exceptional. Blood analysis shows he’s ready to race hard again after a few days, when peers are still exhausted.”
Such capacities are part-trainable, part-genetic. His parents were asked where they think Tadej’s physical and mental abilities come from, his mother Marjeta refers to his grandparents, lifelong farmers who did football and gymnastics in their youth. The whole Pogačar family helps out in the fields when required. With no machines, it’s long hours of manual labour, harvesting tons of potatoes or caring for their cows. “I think it’s important. The children saw that you have to work to have a result,” Marjeta says.
In an interview with Iñigo San Millán and training peaks, Iñigo revealed that on the “first physiological test I realised that this guy was from a whole different level.”
Tadej starts off his test at much lower lactate levels than anyone else Inigo has tested. “He starts tests at 0.7, 0.8, 0.9, 1, 1.1, 1.2 minimals, they are at 3 minimals. By the time he’s at 3 minimals they are at 6 minimals. He will be well below threshold when they are above threshold.”
“His suffering capacity is huge. His head is calm, relaxed. He never gets nervous. His a master tactician.” In the tour of California he wanted to know who his enemies were for the next days mount baldy stage. He told Iñigo “I wanted to see how they were breathing, look at their faces. I realised that there is no threat here for tomorrow, that he only had to worry about the two riders who attacked on todays stage.” Having that mental capability under pressure at such a young age is showing maturity far in excess of other riders his age, another factor in how Pogacar is able to win the worlds biggest bike races.
Today Po Gaga is an inspiration to us all
They lost me here
can't outgoat VingeGOAT
Pogacar seems to struggle with heat, in cold weather Pog seems unbeatable
lets just say that POG and Vinge are evenenly matched on a normal day. Jumbo Visma Team simply had the perfect TDF and the mental boost while swimmung on such a euphoric wave of success and teamspirit surely was a huge boost to Vinges performance
tadej has no team, this was the difference in the end because team tactics is what got vingegaard his time gap.
@@mrbubblebuns3994 well lets just say: uae thought pog was unbeatable until he was beaten and then gave himn3 riders. His team is decent enough, but they dont have anywhere nearbthe team dynamics of jumbo
Pogačar, should be spoken: pogachar
In order to ascend to the legendary level, he needs a good team. UAE is definitely has a lot of holes to fight that TJV with Wout.
who is poegaga?
Master tactician? Now all he needs is strategy.
... or maybe not!
Please learn how to pronounce his name.
Sandworm. Stop believing in miracles.
The AI text to speech didn’t work too well
Ok, that explains the complete butchering of ALL the names! 😂 Makes the rest of the TRS quite impressive
He's very strong, but there are other strong riders. We've seen Jonas Vingegaard drop him in this year's Tour and is now matching him pedal stroke for pedal stroke. He needs to learn to race smarter. He's used to being able to just ride away from people and he can't do that with Vingegaard. He needs to stop wasting energy sprinting for fourth place.
Cycling is a team sport, and Jonas V is benefitting from a stronger squad that has helped him conserve energy so that he can match Pogacar's moves. That was what happened the day JV took the yellow jersey from Pogacar- UAE lost 2 key riders (at least one that day), and Jumbo Visma had a 3 on 1 vs Pog in the final climbs. They attacked him again and again until he tired and Jonas got a 2:20 min lead on him that he was able to hold onto for the rest of the race. Wout Van Aert was just an all purpose beast supporting Jonas the whole time.
@@ighsight Exactly. Why is it that nobody is talking about this aspect of Jonas winning this years Tour de France ...they just keep saying how amazing Jonas is, when the fact is that yes, he is a great rider, but Tadej still was Amazing against the whole Jumbo team, without as strong as a team of his own. He was only like 3:24 behind Jonas at the end if the tour, & 1 hr , i think ahead of the 2nd place in the Young riders competition, & a lesser rider would have been blown away by the Jumbo team. In my eyes, Tadej is still the all around best. And, if he gets as strong as a team as Jumbo, next year , then look out.
tadej needs a better team that can hang with his pace in the mountains. he basically ran all the mountain stages on his own, you just can't win that way. unless there is a mountain time trial for stage 20 like 2020. 😎😎
@@mrbubblebuns3994 What are you guys even talking about, what about the situation on Hautacam? It was Mcnulty & Pogacar vs Jonas Vingegaard for an hour. As you guys say Sure Jonas had the stronger team, but there is also Stages, where Vingegaard was alone vs Pogacar and a teammate of Pogacar.
@@dextermorgan4490 dont forget roglic. they have 2 contending GC.
Just to be in the Tour de France, you have to be special. Then to talk about the most talented rider in the race is of course a pretty amazing rider.
I think back however to many of the 'amazing riders'. I think back to all the buzz about Egan Bernal. The future of a cyclist is always an unknown with all the talent in the world. He sure is good though. He seems to suffer less on the bike compared to his contemporaries in my observation. We have all watched him look 'fresh' when completing stages and quick with a smile. Not an ounce of stress on his face. A gifted rider for sure.
I remember me and my friends all talking about how special Bernal was going to be in 2018 watching him as a super domestique for Froome and Thomas. 2019 felt like a confirmation of everything watching him win the TdF. Sucks that injuries have taken the last few years away from him but his win at the Giro last year gives me hope he can challenge guys like Pogacar and Vingegaard for Grand Tours in the future.
For more on mitochondria in athletic performance, see Greg LeMond's "The Science of Fitness".
Pronounciation is Poga"char"... not pogakar...
Tadidžej Pogica .. English native speaking always murder the names
Most riders' names have been mangled in this video - makes it hard to listen to. Makes you think the guy doesn't really follow cycling.
@@stevemawer848 it's an AI voice
You sure its not PogaMON
I was just wondering why (at 45 years old) it feels like I have to recover an entire week after Saturday's long ride, just so I can go again next Saturday. I could use a few of those Pogacar mitochondria, haha.
You could probably cycle every other day and build up to a longer ride on Saturday and need less time to recover.
Same thing happened to me. My solution was stopping to ride long for a time and ride more but shorter, now i usually feel fresh after the long weekend ride.
at 45, if it's taking you a week to recover, you need to check your diet and sleep. I'm 45, and I recover in about 2 days, sometimes less. it really helps to drink alot of beet juice and bananas blended together everyday. your not old, but at our age you need to take nutrition seriously in order to perform close to the levels you did in your 20's and 30's.
@Franklin Swimmbladder3 proof, none? pathetic
@@mrbubblebuns3994 Doubt it's the beet and banana shakes doing it for you, but yeah... nutrition as a whole is a big part of the equation.
He has a monster body, and is very calm and cool.. But…. He is not Cesar on the battlefield.. He is 23 years old, he loves life and being on his bike.. He just wanna cycle..
I do not think that Jonas beat Tadej. Tadej competed and lost against Jumbo Visma
Yes,and about hard 23'tdf,Jonas beat him not on the climbs,even long ones,but because better training, Pogacar was still injured ,but that not the excuse, he just lost his endurance,strength on third week, that's it..see Jonas now at Vuelta, he's like now is without doping,haha,I.m joke,I hope we have clean generation now..but,Why Jonas come here to 'help'Roglic and JV for 3d big Tour at the same year,good,I like that,just he have to be humble, old Jonas,to not try to be leader,Primoz is better here and he always helping everyone in the team, mentor,maestro,won the Giro without team,only Sepp,;-)..oops,too long..I hope they all,Pogi,Jonas,Remco,Tao G,etc. To clash next year at the TdF ,will be epic..;-)
My ears!! Its Pogačar not Pog--a-car!! My god, learn his name.
what kind of car ?? Poga car
"Po-Gah-Car" 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂 The narrator defo knows nothing about cycling. So many names said wrong. 🤣🤣🤣
Will, after Merckx. Possibly on the same height. Can will all races, except Roubaix. Will meet van Aert, MVDP or possibly Pidcock. Although the last one is also quite light, but has more off-road experience.
Almost all those names are soooo wrongly pronounced.
If you are making videos involving any slavic names, you should learn how to pronounce them. This doesn't make any sense. Who the heck is "Po-Ga-Ga" ? Only bright spot is Hauptman (which is basically a german surname). Keep up the good work.
This is just a cacophony of mispronounced last names... Maybe look up how to pronounce Pogacar's and Majka's names? You are not even close and they are really not that hard.
Horrible horrible narrating and pronounciation. Disrispectful to Pogačar and all others whose names were botched. AI at it best I guess 🙄
Merckx continues to be the greatest of his era and the greatest of all time. Look how Vingegaard stepped up and is going to defeat Pogacar this year.
he just did......
Your constant mispronunciation of his name makes your comments of no worth, in my opinion.
Remember watching something like this about lance and we know now, how it turned out.
Tadedej Pogaka🤔 Well I guess this is why you shouldn't let AI do the voice over.
I think this says it all what we have been watching from this guy. My prediction is that he can win many more tour de france and can also win anything on a racing bike . This will be a GOAT 🐐🙌
Yes, you know what you are talking about
Geit ? n Fantastich coureur!
And though he struggles to get rid of Vingegaard.
Very interesting topic and analysis!
Learn to say names broo. For real
That aged well....NOT !!!
Best of all time? No. That remains with Eddie Merckx.
11 Grand Tours (five Tours of France, five Tours of Italy, and a Tour of Spain)
Winning both The Tour and the Giro in the same year 3 times (‘70, ‘72, ‘74)
All 5 Monuments
Set the world hour record
3 World Championships
Won every major one-day race other than Paris-Tours
And extensive track victories.
All on non-aero steel bikes, steel rims, no clip less pedals, no aero bars, with 5-6 cogs on the block, no wind tunnel testing, none of the science that goes in to the food and training of today, no doping and all on roads that would pass as cow paths today.
Merckx was a powerful rider. Probably never be another like him.
@@lukespack To me, Merckx was to bicycling as Wayne Gretzky was to hockey. Like you said, the probability is high that there will be
another like him.
No doping??? Hahaha ik ben een fiere Belg maar hier moet ik toch wel om lachen.
Merckx is THE eternal great cyclist he will never be matched ...ever..
not as much competition as today
POGACAR Is already one of the greatests right now..but of course to be the greatest needs to win more.. World championship, Milano-Sanremo, Paris-Roubaix, Giro d Italia and more Tours..but he can do all that
Po. Ga. Char.
Can someone explain what this means about training his mitochondria in various zones? What exactly does that look like in terms of training?
Listen to Peter Attia , MD podcast : THE DRIVE interviewing Inigo San Millan …
Appalling pronunciation by ChatGPT
Please learn how to pronounce all the names
Tadej Pogačar is already the greatest! Slovenian prodigy!
Hes perfect hes there, then someone who can beats him, is from another planet, with a bigbeast friend from another universe.
Ah yes, mitochondria, the essential that 99.99% of coaches do not address. I have written a 28 page synopsis listing most of what you need to know about increasing the quantity and power of your mitochondria. Necessary things for me to do at age 76 to maximise my performance.
He's pretty good, but Im much better.. I avoid the world stage because I shun attention and prefer to ride to the park, beaches and Jamba juice..
I would subscribe if you(or the reading machine) would at least pronounce Pogacars name correctly
Jonas Vingegaard entered the chat
Entertaining cyclist but they sad all the same things about Lance and Froome. Why no mention of Pog Ds Gianetti
When a content creator can’t even be arsed getting the speech synthesis to pronounce the guy’s name correctly, you stop listening right away.
learn to pronounce names
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOAT !!! His name is LANCE FRIGGING ARMSTRONG. THE BOSS
Nah, the computer voice killed this for me a minute in. Pay for a human is my advice.
I still dont know what types of nutrition he uses to fuel his mitochondria.Anyone know?
he is a myth already . to complete his dominance he must go for a giro-vuelta double on 2023
Never doubt pogi
It really seems that he will be on a legendary top level very long but he will propably have to deal with contemporary opponents like van Aert, van der Poel and Evenepoel to name a few for years ahead.
It looks like he has the potential to at least be one of the greats but today it seems like there are a number of very gifted younger athletes
Are you doubting the goat?! Never say pogi is anything worse than the best.
He's not very calm this year with all that unnecessary attacking
I wouldnt say he is not calm but he is not great strategist in my opinion.
Good analysis .my thinking behind poggy is since team GB and marginal gains , cycling has become way more professional, and we are seeing the first generation of young riders benefitting from the science, healthy diets , best cyclist gets to be team leader . The generation of alcohol and rider seniority getting gc leader are over , a transition like professional football from beer kebabs to wine and pasta 😃. He really does have a great riding head which enhances his physical attributes . I have doubt but I hope he's just a new wave of riders benefitting from latest fitness science. Also many of the top riders have had big crashes which touch wood poggy has not so he is in good shape from that respect also
Thank you, @Theabc2000! This new wave of riders is undoubtedly benefiting from enhancements in aerodynamic efficiency, in terms of the kit that they wear and bikes they ride, in addition to nutrition as you mentioned. Then again, the peloton has adopted both, so you would expect to see the gains negated between riders. I think it's the innate qualities of these riders, as Tadej's trainer says in the interview, he's 'extraordinary' biologically.
please dont use automated voices, it makes for poor narration.
Good video and well done.
Then came stage 11 2022😄
Some jinx at play here I think 😅
I was thinking the same 😁
The commentators thought he ran out of calories. Hadn't eaten enough during the ride. Good lesson if that's the case.
@@whittenmethod Or he's just a talented rider that followed too many moves and blew up. This goat talk is unnecessary. Especially in cycling where body type dictates as much as anything. He cant sprint, he's not the best pure climber, he doesn't dominate one day races. He's an exellent all rounder that benefitted by growing up when nutrition and training have never been better understood and there will be many more behind him.
this dude won 2 consecutive Tours by the time he was 22. One miserable stage (which was a tactical error really) doesn't change a thing. Stop jumping on every smallest opportunity to hate on him
if you could only pronounce names right…
So......... born in 1996, he turned 18 in 2017 ????????? Slow genes.
Lol he was not, born in 98 will say he was 19. Pretty bad to get one of the most simple facts wrong when you make a video like this :p
*Correction* - Tadej was born in 1998 and not 1996, so he was in fact 18 in 2017 when he raced the Tour of Slovenia.
Fem van Empel could beat him in a sprint.
Use a human voice or go away.
:(
If only there where No vingegaard..😁
You will wish that on the last day when you see Pogi in yellow. Ofc you must believe in the opposite since from DK
@@Windinthe...bald5821 Tadej is not gonna win its getting clearer by the day. He really has never been able to beat vingegaard at anypoint more than in a couple of sprints. He is his equal and in this tdf his nemesis.
He took time on vingegaard in 2021 when vingegaard crashed. Thats really the only time it happened, and before that vingegaard was not captain, so he was not going for time in the early flat stages.
HOwever Tadej is a very complete rider, and next year will maybe look different, cause Jonas is more of a specialized rider not as complete as Tadej.
Thank you
May be Vingegaard will be GOAT?
NAH!!! 😎 Jonas is better ✔
Yea so many excuses about Poke-A-Car that its sickening - Oh he blew up this and that - Jumbo Has a miracle team that if Poga have had that bla bla bla - Vingegaard in 2021 was never going to ride the tour de france he was their as a reserve for Tom Dumolin but he withdrew from that race which gave an out of shape Vingegaard the opportunity to help Roglic - a month before Jonas got injured and was very ill prepared - Roglic crash in that tour - Jonas were suddenly unexperienced the captain for Jumbo and end up 2nd being out of shape due to only training for a few weeks. This year he wins it in superior fashion - 2 mountain stages and a TT he could have won easily - Hes young still 25 and has several years he can develop further - if I were Poga or Poga fans I would sleep bad at night thinking about future tours - Jonas Vingegaard is a beast an APEX monster with no competition - and the lot of you still have no idea how good he is - so lets look at future results and compare afterwards - mark my words he's gifted beyond anything you can imagine - perfect physique for GC proven in medical tests - I can only say good luck to all the Poga fans - you're gonna need it 😝
@@jeschristensen8965 not having a team is a big deal, and it showed. tadej basically got second on his own. only had one bad stage, the rest he was dead even with an excellent rider that had an awesome team. I mean, when you have someone like sepp kuss who can lead you on some of the toughest climbs in the race without dying out early, you're in a good place to win. none of tadej's team could even keep up with him, lol.
He can’t. There will only ever be one man that won 7 tours… in a row. Doped or not when everyone that matters was also doped, one man is and will always be the GOAT no matter his personal flaws, LA will always be the GOAT.
Contador had 6.8 W/kg FTP at his peak. Pogacar “only” has 6.3 W/kg FTP.
his prime is yet to come tho..
contador was on some shit bro 🤣🤣
Contador should have kept off the beef Bertie. 😂
@@7164G Vingegaard's prime is also yet to come
@@jeschristensen8965 I agree that there is still more to come from Jonas, but given the fact that Pog is two years younger I think his ceiling is higher. Also don’t forget that he won two TDF at the age of 21 and 22.
I am looking forward to the battles this young fellas are going to give us in the future..
Greetings from Slovenia ☺️
Oh rhe next Eddy merckx
testing will catch up
this is why BS like this video might become just another bla bla bla
this tour's not over yet.
Definitely yes.
Why they pronounce his name like bread? Foccacia?
Today he met his match in Jonas V. Jonas tamed Pog in the high mountains and also the TT!!
Are you doubting the goat?! Never say pogi is anything worse than the best.
Doping
This lost so much value just days after
Pogacar cannot be the greatest of all time unless he increases his racing schedule of the Grand Tours and wins them all. Then all 5 monuments and at least winning 🏆 one of those 3 times in a row. The manner of his wins would occasionally need to change like perhaps a win in freezing rain by a large margin like Bernhardt Hinault in Leige Bastogne Leige. Getting the 1hr record at any altitude would be another test. His recuperation is certainly Eddy Merck. ..ish . So POG if you want to be the GOAT all you really need is the desire and the best cycling gloves money can buy. Can you do it?
Road-ric…😂
is is a dombo
Tadej Pokemon 😮
doping. simple. as. that.
So what does this make vinegaard?😜
Only until the next GOAT comes along !
I think people forget about Merckx's palmares - multiple road world champion, multiple grand tours winner, and a former hour record holder! TP is yet to demonstrate such variety. People tend to make these kinds of comparisons way to soon into a rider's career. Every rider is different, and every generation is different. It's unfair to compare Tadej to whoever is considered the G.O.A.T, because even that changes like the seasons. I trust he doesn't give two hoots about who's comparing who with whom.
The Cannibal - is the G.O.A.T. - Pogacar Wout is not near Eddie MerckX - Its fan based propaganda by the Poga and Wout fans - those riders need to win 500 races to come close to Eddie - Theirs to many riders today that can take a slice of the pie for that to happen. Cheers Conrad
@@jeschristensen8965 these kinda comments are beyond stupid. you cant compare Merckx wins to any of the wins today. The Peleton hast become a lot lot stronger on average making it way harder to outperform the average world tour pro. It wouldnt even be possible to go like Merckx and be the best sprinter at his time while going for gc.
@@wattier8218 Being the respectful beeing that I am - looking at the stats and the accomplishments of Eddie I think that speaks for itsself - its not like the opponents didn't have any muscles in the 70's unable to compete - Its beyond wrong to suggest that anyone else can have that title which will lead me to say - fan based propaganda BS - if you suggest otherwise - That the whole pro cycling community as a whole has gotten stronger and also will be in on the slice of pie as I describe above - is not my problem - Accomplishments tell the whole story - The Cannibal is without competition and rightfully the best of alltime - History don't lie - Its even shameful to say otherwise or even dissagree with that statement - If you wanna compare with then and now its not possible of numerous reasons - but this guy won 500 bike races and is one of very few legends that deserve such a praise. Poga or Wout are not legends - they are strong riders and thats where they will stay at when their careers are over - not legends.
@@jeschristensen8965 Today about 30-40% of riders in the peleton pose a race winning threat, back then maybe 10%. compare it to F1s Fangio: he won 5 Championchips against mostly bad drivers. Today science eneables every athlete in the peleton to use their full potential and if you are not on that very day, you wont win. The margin for error has become a lot lot smaller and with specialist sprinters, its simply isnt possibly to win sprints for a 65kg gc rider anymore. Also there is a lot more proffesionals these days, that means that every race you go to, you will meet athletes that have prepared for this and only this event and are fresh and ready and know the course off by heart. So wake up, you cant keep coming up with the argument with the amount of races he has won and compare him to todays riders with that, times have changed and the statistics he has produced cant be produced anymore, it is simply not possible. And btw im not saying that he isnt the goat, what im saying is that comparing him is complete nonsens. If you are going to compare strenght, thats okay, in todays numbers hes matching todays pros at above 6w/kg or below Ganna 6, MVP 6, Bernal 6,5,Pog 6,3(6.7w/kg over 24 min). So yes he ist the goat by numbers and will always be. But the "and will always be" goes to show that comparing him is simply stupid
@@wattier8218 Those w/kg means Pogacar won the Tour de france 2022 - YES? if not it means Jonas Vingegaard must have a higher w/kg which means Vingegaard should be the GOAT according to your numbers logic - Its fanbased propaganda nothing else - I don't respect that
He will never even come close to THE GOAT, and we all know who that is. For a start THE GOAT won over 20 sixes, won his 1st of 4 world titles at 19. Taddy PoL is good, but absolutely no one ever has come close to THE GOAT, and it is seriously unlikely anyone ever will!
I'm 62 years old. My VO2 Max hit 84.0 last year. 2000 hours in Zone 2 might have a lot to do with it.
Lance Armstrong is the greatest cyclist of all time
LMAO NO
@@IAmAlpharius20 7 tours
@@brentonfender2081 he cheated for all 7 and lied about it. Not the greatest.
@@IAmAlpharius20 LOL the Tour de France regulations used to specify riders had to supply their own drugs. Cycling created the culture and Lance was a product of it. Without him and Floyd Landis who were treated differently for being Americans nothing would have ever changed. In the major doping era, you had to dope to compete. The cream still rises. Many of Lance's contemporaries cheated and are still lying about it. Contador's doctor was the drug dealer and Alberto is still listed as a tour winner. Lance changed the game with his preparation and training. You many not like it but he's the GOAT. 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
@@brentonfender2081 doesn't justify it lmao.
Yknow what's funny? I was just like you. Worshipped Lance. Then he admitted to doping.
Jonas Vingegaard is the GOAT. Pogcar won’t win another TDF
Po ga ka