Citation X Flight - FMS Programming HDG, ALT, NAV, FLC, VNAV, APP - Which Buttons Do WHAT!? FlightFX

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Flight FX, an aircraft developer for Microsoft Flight Simulator reached out to me asking if they could collect some pictures and sound recordings of a Citation X on the ground. I told them that they could come along on a trip and get all of the sound and data they needed. This video will help those learning to fly the Citation X (in the sim or real world) by showing how the FMS and Flight Guidance Panels function in the actual airplane. It covers how to program a flight plan, input performance, and program an arrival and approach. Also, it covers how to have the VNAV intercept and track a vertical path on an arrival. It's a bit technical, but also very informative. Enjoy!

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  • @RetreadPhoto
    @RetreadPhoto 4 місяці тому +3

    For simulation purposes, you and Citation Max taught me almost everything I needed to know about the Citation. Thanks for that! The FMS’s quirks and nuances are quite challenging, and there’s not much out there on it. It took me probably 6 hours of trial and error and reading the manual to figure it out, then another two hair-pulling hours to master the format for entering manual waypoint coordinates. The reverse thruster took some trial and error, at least on X-Plane. I finally figured out FLC, but the TOGA button and “takeoff mode” is still rather a mystery. The bank limiter was a mystery for a bit, as was the pressurization and APU. Definitely a lot of work compared to a Skyhawk, but a very satisfying challenge. Really appreciate what some of you great UA-camrs do in support of the aviation domain and those who love it, including sim pilots.

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  3 місяці тому

      Wow! Thank you! To be put in the same sentence as Citation Max is humbling, to say the least. I only have 3% of the subscribers that he has. 🤦🏼‍♂️😂
      Glad to hear that you are figuring out the X! The TOGA button is actually pretty simple. It brings the Flight Director bars up to I believe 13.5° which is optimal for takeoff or go around pitch. Pushing that button will also sequence to the missed approach in the FMS if you are shooting an approach and have to go missed.
      Thank you so much for the comment. I greatly appreciate it! I grew up on Microsoft Flight Simulator long before flying in the real world, so I am thrilled that I have the opportunity to give back a little bit to the Flight Sim community!

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto 3 місяці тому +1

      @@johnkluenker I think I finally discovered that about the FD bar on TO, just haven’t used it since then (memory fades). So it sounds like the GA part of that is like the Suspend button on Garmin when going missed. I’ll have to try that. I never really practiced a Go Around on the X.

  • @RetreadPhoto
    @RetreadPhoto 4 місяці тому

    Wow, briefing right turn four times and programming it in, and then having them change it to left at the last second is insane. No wonder there’s so many oopsies out there. Nicely done.

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  3 місяці тому

      Haha! They definitely keep us on our toes! Thank you!!

  • @kurtaxtell7559
    @kurtaxtell7559 5 місяців тому

    This will be fantastic getting guidance from two excellent pilots on learning the citation X and X+ in the future thanks a lot guys!

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      Thank you! Happy to help. The X is an amazing airplane!

  • @Keyfloatz
    @Keyfloatz 5 місяців тому

    I’m only 1 minute in, thank you for giving us behind the scenes on this beautiful bird!
    Safe travels, and good fortune!

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому +1

      You’re welcome! Glad that you appreciate the video!

  • @Keyfloatz
    @Keyfloatz 5 місяців тому

    I’ll be looking forward to the videos of you comparing the real to simulation.
    I didn’t know you could re-enable vnav after atc descend request. (Just have to wait until level with the descent bug )
    That was helpful, and good to know.
    I’m going to replicate that in the simulator next time.

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for checking out the video! Glad I could help. I’m looking forward to making some more follow-up videos once I get my hands on the virtual airplane. Stay tuned!

  • @lac1260
    @lac1260 6 місяців тому +1

    Best news I’ve heard all day

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      It’s going to be awesome!!

  • @frankb518
    @frankb518 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey John, Great to see you ans A new Video........ And Mark I see...... Will watch through this!

  • @airplanegeek893
    @airplanegeek893 2 місяці тому

    Very nice video sir. Congrats! Earned a new subscriber.

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  2 місяці тому

      Thank you so much! I’m glad that you enjoyed it. And thank you of course for subscribing!

  • @larsoppermann4461
    @larsoppermann4461 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for the great video. I've recently gotten back into flight-sims and loving the Citation-X in X-Plane 12; this is so helpful for figuring out the practical use of the simulated systems and learning the actual procedures. Keep 'em comin'!

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      Thank you, Lars! I really appreciate the comment. As the FlightFX Citation X release gets closer, I will be putting out some more videos and certainly once it is released I will make some videos where I am working directly with the virtual aircraft. Should be good! Thanks for watching!

  • @gazzarethx
    @gazzarethx 5 місяців тому

    Loved the Eaglesoft Citation X, looking forward to getting my hands on one in MSFS...

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому +1

      Same here! I had the Eaglesoft X as well. Loved it! Looking forward to what Flight FX comes up with!

  • @MajorLazer182
    @MajorLazer182 5 місяців тому +1

    Great Video John, gotta love the Honeywell Suite, although it does show its age ;) Thanks for going into detail. I was wondering, if you dont mind me asking, you were talking about piloting the same aircraft for more than a decade. Are you only flying this aircraft or are you doing other (freelance) gigs on the side?

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому +1

      Thanks! I have flown this specific Citation X for (going on) 18 years for this company. I do occasionally dabble in other contract side gigs when we aren’t busy with this airplane. It’s nice to get different perspectives on the Citation X fleet and how other operators fly them.

  • @xenaandzenafromsanbernadin3807
    @xenaandzenafromsanbernadin3807 5 місяців тому

    Oh wow this is fantastic news!

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      Thank you! Stay tuned for more!

  • @dolphin4337
    @dolphin4337 5 місяців тому

    Awesome channel, and small world at the KSCK. I've seen you all taxing out/taking off every once in a while from around the corner at Vintage Aviation! Great looking plane and appreciate you giving an insight from the flight deck!

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      Thank you! I really appreciate the comment. Stop by the hangar sometime and say hello!

  • @lebobo4532
    @lebobo4532 5 місяців тому

    Damn, never got really interested into private jets for FS but you made me loving it ! You won a new suscriber today, cheers from France cap !

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      Thank you for checking out the video and subscribing! This is going to be a really incredible add-on for Flight Sim. Stay tuned for some more follow-up videos. I’m a big fan of the Citation X. I hope you enjoy it! AirForceProud95 made a great video documenting the day we hosted the FlightFX team. I’ll share the link. It’s a great video. Where in France do you live? I love France. It’s so beautiful! 🇫🇷 ❤️
      ua-cam.com/video/ErnkB-7MR_Q/v-deo.htmlsi=AX7E68lB1RHdcmxs

  • @FrankV.-zl7vo
    @FrankV.-zl7vo 4 місяці тому

    Hi John, thanks so much for sharing. Had a quick question as I’m new to the X: Why was Lemon not showing on your MFD at 18:55? I think you mentioned you had the RNAV loaded, and I see on the chart that Lemon is a fix on that approach. Thank you and keep the great content coming!

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  4 місяці тому +1

      Good catch! I forget exactly what happened, but we had made a change later in the flight and deleted the RNAV approach for some reason. That part didn’t make the final cut when I edited the video, but that’s why it wasn’t there when I loaded the ILS.

  • @rustyrogers86
    @rustyrogers86 6 місяців тому

    Wow! Very thorough video bro! Audio and video was excellent as well! Nice work! 😎

  • @Mets747
    @Mets747 5 місяців тому

    Amazing news!! Thanks so much for allowing access to this incredible airplane.

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому +1

      You’re welcome! Thanks for watching! I’m definitely excited about this X. Long overdue for MSFS2020!

  • @familyborde2160
    @familyborde2160 4 місяці тому

    Hi, I really like your videos. I’m at FS taking a Citation X initial and your videos have really helped. Where can I find the checklist like the one you ha e on the video (Pre start to after start). Thanks!! And looking forward to more of your videos!

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  4 місяці тому

      Awesome!! Glad to hear you’re learning the X. It’s a fantastic airplane! I have some pictures of the checklist that I can send you. Do you mind sharing your email address? Enjoy your training and thanks so much for the comment!

  • @paulgriffiths6237
    @paulgriffiths6237 5 місяців тому

    Please continue with these videos , for my preparations for the MSFS version. Thank you.

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      Will do. More to come, I promise!

    • @paulgriffiths6237
      @paulgriffiths6237 5 місяців тому

      Thank you so much. Only one or two 10's on the Isle Of Man registration, so a rare sight. Amazing airplane, that wing, and the airplane in profile is amazing.

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      @paulgriffiths6237 I agree! I have always been a big fan of the Citation X. I’m a lucky guy to be paid to fly one!

    • @paulgriffiths6237
      @paulgriffiths6237 5 місяців тому

      Maybe FlightFX would do your X colors in the modeling of the X and avatars of you and Mark. That would be cool 😎

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      @paulgriffiths6237 ha ha! That would be pretty cool. Honestly, I’m not much of a fan of our paint scheme, but avatars would be awesome! 😆

  • @jfelipe1987
    @jfelipe1987 6 місяців тому +1

    can't wait

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      It’s going to be awesome! They are putting next level detail into it.

  • @michaelschiralli8523
    @michaelschiralli8523 5 місяців тому

    Hi John, this was a very helpful video for me! Thank you. In X-Plane 12, I am currently learning this plane. I have a quick two questions: 1) regarding the APU, should I shut it down immediately after both engines are started successfully? Or should I leave the APU running while I taxi? I have seen many different techniques online regarding APU usage and was curious on the proper procedure. 2) I know you can use the speedbrake lever near the thrust levers to slow the plane down in the air, but does this activate the ground spoilers upon landing or is there a separate mechanism for activating the ground spoilers? I know that there is reverse thrust as well, but I was curious on the proper procedure to activate the ground spoilers. Thank you again!

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому +1

      So glad that the video was helpful. Thank you for the comment! Regarding the APU, we have used both techniques. We used to shut it down right after starting the main engines. Most other operators keep it running until after takeoff and shut it down while climbing through 10,000 feet. It depends on the serial number of the aircraft and which electrical system it has. The simulated 10 most likely will have the split electrical system. With that system, it makes sense to keep the APU running until after takeoff. It is helpful to provide back up power in the event of the loss of an engine or engine driven generator. Believe it or not, there is no speed limit for the use of the speed brakes. You can deploy the speed brakes even at Mach .92 if you need to. There are no specific ground spoilers. also, there is no automatic function of the speed brakes. Manual application only. That being said, there is no function to arm any sort of automatic deployment of the speed brakes. The standard technique for landing the X that works really well. Is that once the main wheels touch just deploy the speed brakes. The technique is a little counterintuitive. Right before you touch down, I bring the thrust levers to idle and bring my hand over to the speed brake lever. again, the moment the main wheels touch you pull the speed, brake lever and simultaneously push forward on the yoke, a bit to lower the angle of attack and fly the nose wheel to the ground. On the legacy X there is a limitation to not deploy the thrust reversers until the nose wheel is planted on the ground. With the engines mounted so high, the thrust reverses have the tendency to pull the nose up where you then lose your nose wheel steering capability. So you fly the nose wheel to the ground and apply full forward pressure with the yoke while deploying the thrust reversers. Interesting, right!?

    • @michaelschiralli8523
      @michaelschiralli8523 5 місяців тому

      @@johnkluenker Thank you very much for the great and detailed reply! It is indeed very interesting the mechanics of the plane plus the physics of flying and how it all comes together. All the best to you.

    • @RetreadPhoto
      @RetreadPhoto 4 місяці тому

      ⁠​⁠@@johnkluenkeryeh, I did a couple wheelies there for a while during the learning phase, but eventually learned the sequence you mention, as well as pushing back on the ramp using a single reverse thruster, even though some companies eschew that practice. The documentation in X Plane Mobile isn’t very good on reverse thrusters, and it has a habit of slamming to full throttle during deployment. It’s been a pain to remember pushing forward on the yoke to prevent wheelies, and it’s hard to see the speed on mobile to know when to disengage around 70. But I’ve landed it at Catalina Island a few times! 😉

  • @William0204
    @William0204 4 місяці тому

    How did you guys get Checklist on ForeFlight? Input manually or download from specific source?

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  4 місяці тому +1

      Mark built it manually on ForeFlight. However, I have been able to share it with people which has been nice. Shareable via AirDrop.

    • @William0204
      @William0204 4 місяці тому +1

      @@johnkluenker Gonna have to meet up with you guys then!😂 Appreciate your content. Going for FlightSafety in July✊🏻

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  4 місяці тому +1

      Awesome! During this latest recurrent, we went the entire time without cracking a paper checklist. We downloaded a digital copy of the emergency abnormal checklists and saved it into the files on ForeFlight. It was pretty great.

    • @William0204
      @William0204 3 місяці тому

      @@johnkluenker Well if you guys are ever in Fort Lauderdale area let me know!🙏🫡

  • @lac1260
    @lac1260 3 місяці тому

    What did ATC want you to do with “stay outside lemon”?

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  3 місяці тому

      ATC told us to do that in order to keep adequate spacing behind the airplane in front of us. 👍🏼

    • @lac1260
      @lac1260 3 місяці тому

      Was it a IAF for the ILS and they wanted you to fly around it? Was trying to follow along. I’m a new jet guy at FSI working on my X type rating. Your videos have been tremendously helpful.
      Also, any chance you could share your ForeFlight checklist 😊

  • @DavidR_192
    @DavidR_192 5 місяців тому +1

    Great content, but the backing music was way too loud, when you were speaking in the first few minutes. Music like that is best really, really quiet - just tickling the user, far in the background. (Or even better - no music at all, during pieces to camera).

    • @johnkluenker
      @johnkluenker  5 місяців тому

      Thank you. Getting the audio levels right between music and dialogue is the most difficult part of making these videos. I put a lot of time into that and it still doesn’t turn out perfectly. This is about as good as I could get it for this one and I’m happy with it. I have only listened to it on my laptop and phone however, so when you watch it on a TV or another device, it can throw off the balance depending upon the audio settings of the specific device.