Is this mic not meant to connect to a boom mic stand? It sounded like you said you were using this mic to record this video but for some reason I'm unable to connect it to my boom mic stand is there a special adapter or something that I need?
A Deity reviews a Deity! "He said, 'let there be sound,' and it was so, and he heard that it was good. Thank you for this blessing, Curtis! I didn't think I would encounter a mic that I would consider in place of the Smic2, but this nudged its way in... I'm impressed in its functionality!
If I have the Deity D3 Pro connected directly to the camera, will it turn off when I turn the camera off, and then turn on when I turn the camera back on? (without me pushing any buttons?)
Mmmm, sort of. You still have to turn it on at the start of the day and it will go into something of a sleep mode until you turn your camera back on. But the battery will run down if you leave it in the on position all the time.
@@curtisjudd Yeah, I watched several comparison videos and I think I lean slightly towards DEITY in terms of sound quality. The D3 Pro is also currently $139 compared to $250 for the Rode NTG. Thanks for the response!
Hi there! I currenty own a really cheap Movo VXR10 and I got some problems with it. The microphone is so loud from itself, that I can't lower the volume down in my camera and it still clips if I am in the car (for ex.). I've been looking into new microphones and I really don't know what to do. This one does not have a negative DB dial, does it? Is it much louder then the Video mic pro+? That one does have a -10 db. The internal sound of the Sony6500 is terrible. What should I do? Go for the Deity or Video mic pro+.
Hi Wess Media, I found both the D3 Pro and RODE VideoMic Pro+ to work well with the Panasonic GH5 which also has a very hot mic input. So there is enough room to reduce the output volume for both of these to work. I just don't know about the Sony a6500.
Curtis Judd thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I'm really curious if the video micro and the deity have the same db output on the lowest possible setting. Would you know that by chance?
The RODE can go to -10dB (assuming that means -10dB from its unity gain setting). The D3 Pro's has a sensitivity spec of -24dB~-44dB re1V/Pa. So this isn't an apples to apples comparison, but both work nicely with the GH5 in my tests.
Hey Chris, awesome stuff. What's the best recommended on OR off camera recorder to get good, clean sound at LIVE concert events that's compact, effective and still affordable? I use the Song a7iii camera and as expected, even at the lowest audio setting, on board audio can be overblown. I would also like to use this mic for vlogging (at home and on the road) if one does exist. Or would I need to get an on camera mic (Rode, Deity) and a field recorder such as Zoom H5?
I'm an owner of the Aputure V-Mic D2, which I can only assume this mic is the successor to. I'm a big fan value wise of the D2 and am wondering how much of an improvement this mic will offer. I like that they've gone to rechargeable lithium from the AAA configuration on the D2 and the size is more compact as well. Not sure on audio quality though. Any thoughts on that, Curtis?
Hey Gerald, I never had the chance to work with the D2 so I’m not sure how it compares in terms of audio quality. If you’re ever in the Park City Utah area, let me know and we’ll do a comparison.
Thank you very much, between your videos, Gerald Undone and DSLR Video Shooter. I've learned a lot and I'm on my way to making my first short film. Thank you very much, I really appreciate this reviews and recommendations.💙
Hey Curtis. I came back to watch this because I am in the market for a camera mount mic. The thing that had me interested in the Rode Video Mic Pro Plus, is the auto on/off. What about this mic, does it have the auto on/off feature?
Hi Jay, good to hear from you! It sort of does, but you must first put it in standby mode. It’ll stay in that mode for 15 minutes and if it doesn’t detect your camera recorder on in that time, it shuts off completely. What I have noticed with the RODE VMP+ is that it is basically always in standby mode which is cool but if you don’t use it for a few days, it runs the battery out. So it is a trade-off.
This review made me buy this mic! When you said it was a great mic for the price and it was for people who are looking to start working with quality audio I knew this was it! Man what a great buy this was. I’m considering pairing this with a rode wireless set up.
I already have the RODE VideoMic Pro+, and I love it. The D3 Pro looks like an excellent choice as well. I might pick one up as back up. It certainly seems worth the investment. Man, those Rycote windscreens are expensive. Excellent review.
Yes, Rycote charges higher prices I suspect for at least 2 reasons: 1) They do the R&D to make these designs which work really well and 2) they're based in the UK where employees are not cheap. But I can say that their gear is top notch in terms of performance and durability over time.
Thank you! Been going back and forth between this and the Rode Video Pro + and your review, examples and even showing using with boom make the Deity V Mic D3 Pro an easy choice. Appreciate your clear fact and testing methods. Thanks again!
THANK YOU for this review. I"ve been waiting for this. This looks like an awesome piece of kit for the money. Good quality and great versatility. This will make a nice Christmas present for my new Pansasonic G9 which is a Christmas present for me. Love the flexibility with this as a decent boom mic along with a camera mount, the many handy features, and quality. I'll make sure to purchase using your link, though I do prefer B&H.
Useful and thorough, as always. Thanks Curtis! I wish I had bumped into you at NAB. I would have introduced myself and thank you in person. Keep up the good work!
There isn't a specific one made for the D3 Pro yet as far as I know. But the mic's diameter is 21mm so any of the rycote softies for 21mm mics would be worth considering: bhpho.to/2zjYM9y
Another great video by you. I also have a D3 Pro and I really like it. Normally for my voice over work I use Shure SM7B and when I just do not want to show my mic on the screen I use D3.
Mahmud, have u ever tried comparing the d3 vs the smb7? I have the d3 and luv it but debating whether it's worth the investment to upgrade to the smb7. I need it for simple vlogging on my canon m50 at home
Im looking at a D3 Pro as budget choice for upgrading from Rode video micro. I do use the Rode wireless go 2 running the sound directly to the mic input in an Atem Mini Pro. My question, will the Deity D3 Pro work well with the Rode wireless or should I spend the extra 100-ish dollars for a Rode video mic pro+? Im using the mic on a table top tripod 20 inches out of frame in front of me - I want to push back about 12 more inches but still have decent audio.
These little shotgun mics just don’t have that much “reach” so it will isolate a bit more than the micro, but you’ll still pick up a good bit of room ambience.
Hi Curtis, thanks for another excellent review. Really appreciate your considered in-depth assessments with a clear one screen summary up front. You are my goto audio kit reviewer and I subscribed 3 weeks ago. I now find myself 'binge viewing' your channel to learn more. As a photographer on a convergence journey to video, I'm a video novice who's sound knowledge and practice are a weakness - so your insights are valued. Just took delivery of this Deity V3 Pro as my first step towards decent sound in video. Maybe I will gravitate towards off-camera sound recording, into something like a SD Mix-3, with timecode sync in post.... but know I must 'learn to walk my Deity, before trying to run' with greater complexity (and cost). Anyway...top reviews.
Glad you did this video ! I was about to buy the Rode videomic pro + (for an ambiant mic on top of panasonic camcorder v770), but this one sounds at least equivalent to me. I have to check if it works with my camcorder and if it does I will probably buy it because it is significantly less expensive than the Rode.
I would love to hear a side-by-side of what this sounds like compared to mounting a Senny MKH-416 into the GH5's XLR adapter but in the same position as the top-mounted mic instead of boomed.
Curtis Judd cool! Hit me up. I’ve got about 6 other mics you could mess with while you’re out here if you need. Blue spark, blue baby bottle, rode vmp+, Sony wireless lavs, comica wireless lavs, that MKH 416, and a few other cheaper ones. I’m in the Valencia area (just north of la)
My wife went onto my UA-cam account on the Nvidia Shield and said, "let me pick a video I think you'll like." After 30 seconds or so, she clicked on this video. She was right! 😂 Quick question, do you think -12dB and level 4 on the D3 Pro is the optimal setting on the GH5? The reason I ask is that I found the levels to be a lot lower on my Tascam DR70D when using the D3 Pro compared to the S-Mic 2. I didn't want to loudness normalize and find myself boosting the noise floor, so I opted to turn the D3 Pro to the 10 setting. It still wasn't clipping on the Tascam and still lower in volume to the S-Mic 2. Just trying to figure out the optimal settings.
Hi Joe! Too funny! The setting at 4 worked well for the GH5 into it's 3.5mm mic input. I believe that when you are using the mic with the 3.5mm to XLR adapter into an XLR input, you'll want to set the gain dial to 0 and let the recorder/preamp do the amplification work. On my DR-60DmkII, I set the gain dial to 0 on the D3 Pro, then set the gain for input channel one to mid and the trim dial near max to get the peaks hitting around -12dB. I like to leave about that much headroom on consumer level recorders like the Tascam in case things get a little loud. How does that work on your end?
@@joentell Ah, ok. Sorry about that. I had to crank the D3 Pro to 10 with the input gain on the DR-60DmkII's 3.5mm input set to high gain. The Tascam DR 3.5mm inputs are notoriously poor (though the XLR inputs are good). So I'd go straight to camera in that case.
As always, a thoughtful review. I would however like to hear it used as an on-camera mic instead of a close boom, since that's what it's designed to do. I worry about the short interference tube not dealing with longer distances well while still delivering some comb filtering indoors, and an on-camera test would give a little more insight into that.
Hi Colin, thanks. The samples were recorded on camera (GH5) at approximately 3 feet. You will note more "room" sound in those recordings vs. the rest of the talking head clips where it is boomed over my head. The Deity does ever so slightly better than the RODE in terms of "dealing with longer distances" because of its slightly more focused polar pattern, but once you get beyond about 3 feet, you'll pick up a fair bit more room or location sound.
Again for the nth time a super great review. But.. Question Curtis, would you recommend this if i'm going to shoot in an indie film with indoor dialogue scene (ex. Bathroom or a small room low ceiling with lots of stone walls) - lots of reverberation than using my shotgun mic *NTG3* connected to F8 with Rode Newshooter or Sony UWPD11. I'm saving to get a AT4053b or Audix SCX1 -- I'm currently using Samson C02 (which is i'm kinda unhappy with some of the results) and NTG 2 & 3b Should I just save to get the 4053b or can I use the VMic D3 Pro for indoor dialogue for some tvc's, online ads or indie films? I would love to hear your response. Regards from the Philippines. Thanks so much!!
Hi Mikhail, No, if you've already got an NTG3, no need to add this. The D3 Pro is also a shotgun/interference tube design. For those tight indoor spaces, best to save up for the AT or Audix. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd Thank you so so much!! If i could subscribe more than a hundred times I'll do it. Haha! Great help. Looking forward to seeing your new video. ☺️
If I already have the RODE VideoMic Pro+, would this be worth upgrading? Your video says this is probably better to get due to its price, but I'm wondering if it'd be worth the $200 to buy this to replace the RODE or if something else is better.
@@curtisjudd No problems whatsoever. I'm just always trying to get better audio and like keeping up to date with what's out there :) I'll keep using it then.
Hey Curtis! I just purchased this microphone for my old Canon T3i. I have the internal gain set as low as possible while the knob set at +10. This is the most optimal way for reducing noise but I still get a decent chunk of white noise. Do you know if recording to a H4n pro vs. into camera will make a difference in terms of noise reduction?
Long shotgun mics like the RODE NTG8 and Sennhesier MKH8070 or ME67: NTG-8: bhpho.to/2Ju8WNf Sennheiser MKH8070: bhpho.to/2JRyMdr Sennheiser ME67: bhpho.to/2JST32i
Hi Curtis! Is there an elegant solution to use this on the Blackmagic Pocket 4K seeing as the camera doesn't provide plug-in power? Is there a 3.5mm to mini-XLR cable that can convert phantom to 3V ‘Plug-in Power’? I've just purchased it and would sometimes like to have it on the camera. I've got the 3.5mm to XLR adapter from Deity but then I'd be using 3 parts (3.5mm cable + adapter + XLR to mini-XLR cable)
Hi Diego, the mic does not need plugin power as it supplies its own power. The problem with the P4K is the way it is wired which is completely unique. You may need a TRS cable to trick it. But contact DEITY support for details.
Hello Curtis, i have been looking at these comparisons for awhile and there are 2 things that bother me about the de3. First and the most important is the battery. This seems to be a mic which will only last maybe 3 years and then it becomes thrash, or it will resell for little, like a smartphone. Second is reliability, i have seen some users comment about receiveing products with poor or damaged batteries. The only thing i dislike about the rode is the location of the 3.5mm cable. Right now if you shop you can find lightly used Rode pro+ at 200$. Which are your thoughts about this? Edit (removed freq response disparity)
I don’t use on-camera mics much so I haven’t stressed the battery over time but I follow your reasoning. In regard to batteries, it seems like the VMP+ draws on its battery constantly, even in standby so you have to recharge every 3 days or so, whether you use the mic or not. So there are trade offs on both.
Hey Curtis, I keep coming back to this video because I'm planning on shooting my second short film in the next few weeks. It has a lot more dialogue so the cheap lav mic with Zoom H1 solution isn't gonna cut it anymore. I was first planning to just rent a Sennheiser MKH 416 with a full audio kit just to be save but now I'm not so sure anymore. Just simply buying something like the Deity D3 Pro with the location kit could save me a lot of hassle and money in the long run but I'm just not sure if the audio is gonna be good enough. I know I will also need something like the Rode blimp for wind protection as well. That would fit without problems, right? Would you say this would be an acceptable option for booming dialogue, maybe even combined with a Zoom H1 still? It would save me sooo much money but I also want the sound to be good...
@@curtisjudd Alright thank you for the help. I purchased your production sound course a few years ago so I know all about that 18 inch rule my dude ;) Would you say the Rode Blimp Mark 2 would be a good option for this and some better XLR mics in the future? I can't seem to find the Rycote one you're showing in this video but I'm guessing it's way more expensive anyway...
I bought one, and it came with a faulty battery. I contacted Deity over social media and they sent out a replacement for me from their Hong Kong Office. Just be aware that these things happen, and I'm not sure how much quality control happens in the background, but I'm giving this company a try. I've already bought the VLAV, S Mic 2 and the D3 Pro. The replacement they sent holds a charge but I have not yet tested its longevity, but good on Deity for immediately replacing it with a new mic. I did open up the broken mic and it's (interesting) how they constructed it. Later on that.
can you help me understand. Why around 3 minutes in do you have on the left screen all the infor about the D3 and above it says "you are listening to he rode. I'm easily confused. Which is it and not to be a wise guy but why would you do that? I hope it's just me being confused. Thank You, PS. Big fan of you and your channel and videos. UNDONE suggested I watch this video on one of his videos
Thanks for all you do, Curtis. I am primarily a still shooter, but like most shooters I have had to start doing more video. I have a client with a large West Coast style open office, complete with 30' ceilings, lots of glass, concrete floors, and white noise generators. I need to do a series of talking head videos in their space which presents obvious issues from the audio front. I will do what I can to bring moving blankets in, but I have a mic question. I have a Joly modified Oktava 012 hypercardioid which I use as my primary boom mic (thanks for that review BTW), along with a Rycote BBG, as well as a decent wired lav and a couple Samson cardioid mics (for backup). I plan to pick up a Fethead Phantom to help push to my Zoom H5, but my question is this... Should I consider a D3 Pro or another "true" shotgun mic for this particular boom application? I know that shotguns are really meant for outdoor applications, but these wide open spaces and sound reflections worry me. I will need to feature a decent amount of the office environment when framing, so getting in closer than 12"-18" is a non-starter. Thank you in advance for your valued opinion. Cheers!
Hi Scott, no, a shotgun can run into phase issues via its interference tube when in reverberant spaces and the mic is slightly off axis of the talent. In this case, I’d rely on the lav mic and look to boom from under the frame with the Oktava. Wide interviews are a challenge and I usually end up using a Lav.
@@curtisjudd Thanks so very much for the prompt response. One clarification... If I have enough headroom with the composition, would you still suggest booming from underneath the subject rather than from above? My guess is that I should be able to get the mic within 15" or so from the subject. Again, thank you for all of your videos... You have been a tremendous resource as I learn more about the video side of the business. Cheers!
Hi Curtis! When I use this mic on the pocket 4K with the Deity D-XLR adapter I get extreme noise levels. Totally unusable. Also when there is not even a microphone contected to the adapter there is a lot of noise. Do you have any idea how this is possible or what is wrong?
Hi Suzanne. Do you also get the same amount of noise if you use the 3.5mm microphone input on the P4K? You'll need a TRS cable to make that work, but just curious. Might be worth contacting DEITY support to see if they can help optimize that setup. Best wishes!
Thank you for this. You've really helped me a lot and I'd love your opinion on a mic selection, specifically a deity mic. I shoot you tube videos and educational e-Learning courses. I've been using an SM57 to Fethead to Scarlett in my home office and it works quite well. When I'm on the road, I take an AT875r and plug it into a Saramonic Smartrig 2. This is a fairly compact light weight set up that allows me to plug into my smartphone but also into my laptop headphone jack and record very good audio without a USB interface .... BUT I've got micitis ... and started thinking about a MKH416 until I saw the new S-Mic 2. I know 416 and S-Mic 2 can be used as both shotguns and for Voice Work quite well. But now I see this D3 Pro and I have to ask could I use the the D3 Pro be used effectively from my desktop? Would it sound good enough to do Podcasts with and is the sound comparable to the S-Mic 2? Thanks for considering offering an opinion on this. I don't mind having 2 or 3 mics for different uses but If I could pare down the amount of equipment I have without compromising quality of sound that would be awesome. I may just sell everything I currently have and get and get these two Deitys. Thanks again!
Hi Howard, The D3 Pro is good, but for some situations, I'd feel a lot better having the superior RF rejection capabilities of the S-Mic 2 and especially the MKH416 (which uses an RF bias design). If you're going to pare down to fewer microphones, I'd spend a little more and get one of the higher end mics which does better with RF. Our world is only getting more noisy in terms of RF. Its a bummer when you lose a take to interference.
Great video. Just to clarify: Did you plug the mics directly into the GH5, or did this go via an external recorder? Do you reckon this would work to shoot a close-up dialogue between two people while mounted on the camera?
Great review, you're the best outhere for audio. How would you connect it to the pocket 4k? The provided cable doesn't work so I got a trs to trs, but it still seems quiet to me on 75% gain on the camera and +20db on the mic. Would it be better to run it to the xlr? That would be quite cumbersome though... Thanks
Filip Mašek did you ever get the Deity D3 Pro working? Mines constantly in sleep with my pocket 4K. Works fine on my Nikon and one of my work mates GH5. I’ve tried TRS to TRS, TRRS to TRS, TRS patch cable, Mini XLR to XLR with a XLR to 3.5 😂 nothing works for me
Love your videos, I learn so much! Quick question: I have this mic and the H4n. Are there any settings you would recommend? Should I turn down the H4N gain as much as possible and bring the microphone gain up or the other way around? Thanks!
@curtisjudd Hey Curtis! Great channel! One quick question = If I need an extension cable to run between the mic and the camera (running from the Deity directly to a Fuji X-t3), what type of cord do I need to get and how long do you think it could be, at most, for the signal to be able to travel through without phantom power from the camera, relying solely on the internal battery of the mic? Thanks, best /Leo
Can this be plugged directly into the h1n or does it still need the TRRS to TRS adapter ? The combo in this video sounds superb! Wondering what your input level is on the h1n. I always try to keep my level at 50 when using the rode smartlav, but my audio never sounds smooth like this audio. I’m looking for an inexpensive option to boom my audio for interviews and have heard so many great things about the Deity D3 Pro. Great video, BTW.
Hi Ric, This was recorded into the original Zoom H1. I believe the input level on the recorder was set to 50 or so - it's been a while so this is from memory. Good luck!
Awesome video! I have the same gear. I need to get a boom pole setup. On camera isn’t going to work. I’m filming 10’ away. Recommendations for long cable to gh5? Thanks! Subbed
Dear Curtis. First off I have to say I love your videos and I learned a lot from them. With this out of the way I have a question or better two for you. So I am studying technical journalism and at first was focusing more on pr and writing but know I fell in love with shooting video and coming from a photographics point off view I had no idea how to get good sound. So for my projects for university I used their equipment. Which consisted of a rode ntg 2 with a tascam dr100 and a wireless lavalier setup from sennheiser. Last November I bought a "used" XT 3 which replaced my xt1 and filmed a bit with the new camera. Now that I start to look for my own audio equipment I am not sure what to get. I shoot lots interviews so like I said i am mostly familiar with shotgun and lavalier mics. After searching a bit I found the deity d3 pro and I like it from the hearing tests. But i am not sure what to get. So would u rather go for: A Deity D3 Pro with a zoom h1 or a zoom h4n or a tascam dr 60 or would u look for a completly different setup (I dont like wireless solutions that much) Or go with a Rode NTG 2 with the recorders above. And in addition to that what lav would u get (since money is an issue i would use it with a zoom h1 as a on body recorder or if i can get a cheep used one a zoom f1 but i doubt it) Thanks for your help in advance. And keep up with the excellent work. Thankfully Matthias
Hi Matthias, I think the D3 Pro and an H1 would be a good combination. But if you also need to record a lavalier, an H4n Pro might be a better choice as you could record both - the D3 Pro into one of the XLR inputs and the lavalier into the 3.5mm input. I'd usually recommend the Tascam for its XLR inputs but its 3.5mm input is not that great - quite a bit of self-noise. I would NOT recommend the NTG2 and H4n. They don't work well together. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd Thank you for the quick answer. This was my fault with the first question I ment the H4n pro not the older H4n; saw your video ua-cam.com/video/PRd-nZGGSv4/v-deo.html in which you were mentioning it with the NTG 2. Now since price is a matter and I maybe useing the lav with a recorder as a free on body solution I tend to shift to a setup with a H1 and a lav (which i can also use with a D3 pro in case I need a small solution). But now I have a follow up question: So would you rather use a longer cable for the lavalier and tie the talent to the Shotgun mic or leave him the freedom. In the later case i would maybe opt for a combination of a H1 with a lavalier and a Tascam dr 60 with the deity or the Rode NTG 2, just because from a handling perspective I like the Tascam more (but is there a huge different in sound using the Tascam for one mic and the Zoom for another?) So i guess i definitivly get a H1 (not the H1n event tough i like the features the not lockable dial is just a problem when using it on a talent; and the F1 and DR10 are just to expensive for me at the moment). And dependent on the mic I will maybe get an aditional recorder. Best wishes!
Hey Curtis... How would you compare this to the Smic 2.... So far... They really don't sound too much different... Just more (by more I mean a tiny bit) lift of the high end frequencies on the D3 Pro & the Smic2 is water proof.
I think you nailed the differences in terms of sound. Of course the big difference is that one has a native XLR output and the other 3.5mm. Oh, and the S-Mic 2 is bigger and has a substantially more focused polar pattern so it will reject a bit more ambient noise.
@@curtisjudd is it loads more at rejecting the off axis... If so then I'll keep saving. If it's minor then... I'll get the D3 Pro. As for it not being XLR, I'll get the Deity XLR adapter so I can run it into my Zoom F6.
@@DavidGriffin It is noticeably more directional. Also, that adapter - they said it converted the signal to balanced but I'm not sure about how or the type of balancing they've done. In other words, not sure you'll be able to run long cables without picking up interference. The D3 Pro is first and foremost a camera-top microphone.
Been sesrching everywhere for someone who can say something about using it with a zoom, thank god you mentioned it here! Didn't think it was gonne be on their website! Haha. Thank you for this! Tho im curious as to how you would set the gain on the h1n and the mic if you attached them together?
I'd. probably put the Zoom at 50/100 (or is it 5/10 on the H1n) and then use the D3 Pro's gain to optimize the level until the meters top out at -12dB.
Mr. Judd - I have another question: why do you upload in 4k? Is it personal preference? Do you find it helps with search ranking - I noticed that the top several results were 4k for 'deity d3 pro' - or is just for your audiences benefit? All three? Thanks.
Mostly so that when I do screencast demos of software, it makes it easier for people to see the details. It never crossed my mind that UHD would influence the search algorithm, I don’t usually give the search algorithm more thought than setting up the keywords for the video.
Pulled the trigger and did order it from Amazon, deity it's making it easy to choose them over Rode. They should push it a bit more and compete with the RodeLink next.
Hi Curtis. Your channels are fabulous! I'm a small film maker I rely on them. Question on RF interference on the D3 pro: you demonstrate the RF issue with your Rode transmitter close to the mic on a boom. I want to mount this on my laptop with wifi running. However, I checked the low reviews on Amazon and B&H and 5-10 complain about constant and unrelenting rf noise, even after many remedy attempts. Is this the fault of an unshielded cable? have they upgraded the shielding? 🧐
Good question. I would suspect the cable, yes. I don’t know whether they’ve done anything to address that but you might try contacting their support to see? Best wishes!
Thanks Curtis. I am going to buy this one. Talking about the high pass filter, I will use my Zoom H1n as recorder. Should I use the high pass filter on this mic or to use the filter on H1n? What's your suggestion? Appreciate it.
Hey Curt! I'm thinking to switching from the rode wireless go + lavalier to the deity d3 pro using it on my gh5. At what maximum distance do you recommend using it from the camera? I mean to have a sound superior to the rode wireless go. I do video courses at a distance of about 1 maximum 2m. Thanks!
Hi Francesco, for best results, I would keep the microphone within about 40cm of the person speaking. You can move farther away, but the sound will not be as rich and you will pick up much more room sound. Best wishes!
Hey Curtis, been going through your many videos on mics, and I'm wondering if this one with the D-XLR adapter provides balanced output. If so, does this mean it can be used with cable runs over 20-ft? Also, if I'm using the D-XLR adapter, will I be able to plug it in to the mini-XLR on my BMPCC 6K Pro? I understand that the included TRS cable isn't compatible with BMPCC, but I'm hoping that if converted to XLR, that eliminates those compatibility issues. Also, your channel is the gold standard for this kind of information. Thank you!
Hi ekko808, I learned after I made the video that the DXLR adapter does something called impedance balancing which is not the same as using a transformer and I'm not sure whether it is just as effective. If you wanted to be sure, you might look at the RODE VXLR Pro instead, which does use a transformer to create a transformer balanced signal and with which you can make longer cable runs - easily 20+ feed. And yes, a standard XLR to TA3 adapter should work fine with the 6K pro.
@@curtisjudd thanks Curtis. Do you think you'll make a comparison video showing difference between recording straight into a camera with XLR like the 6K and into a recorder? As a mostly one person shooter, I'd be really interested in your take, or any tips on that.
@@ekko808 I did years ago. My take is this: Test your equipment. If it sounds good, it is good. So go with it. Trust your ears and get out there and make some great videos. Here's the video from years ago if you think it would be helpful: ua-cam.com/video/2oZp_k7AmXs/v-deo.html
New to the channel. I found this very helpful. I am interested in purchasing a microphone for recording wildlife, primarily bird song. What do you think would work best for subjects that would likely be greater than 6’ away?
That depends on whether you want a microphone to capture a wide stereo ambience sort of sound or want something more isolating that captures mainly the sound at which you aim the mic. A longer shotgun mic will be more isolating. A stereo pair of cardioid microphones will capture better wide ambient sounds.
So for just twenty bucks i can opt for this instead of the vidmic pro (not the plus) for my G85. I do plan on enrolling in your audio course for my Christmas shopping.
Hi - My Deity D-3 Pro sat idle for over a year. When I tried to charge it, the battery failed to supply power, basically bricked. Deity will not cover it as it was bought at a non authorized dealer. Is there anyway to replace the Li-ion internal battery? I can only use it currently if I hard wire the mic with USB-C and AC adapter. Looks like I may have to purchase another one?
@@curtisjudd thanks Curtis - I think the base one would be right for me plus a boom pole adaptor of some sort. I see there is a location kit but it has a XLR adaptor that I wouldn't use.
@@markshirley01 Hi Mark, the D3 base model comes with a shock mount with a cold shoe. I'm not sure, but it might have a 3/8" tap on the bottom (the D3 Pro version does) so that will work with a boom pole, but cannot be adjusted like a proper pole shock mount like those from Rycote. You could just buy a Rycote shock mount like this, though they're not super inexpensive: bhpho.to/2rCXswC
Hi Curtis. Very impressive assessment as usual. Could you inform me about its sound quality compared with Rode VideoMic Pro+ in term of several aspects like: bass, treble, clarity, sibilance, etc? Which one is better? Thank you!
Hi Nata, I believe the D3 Pro may have been discontinued so keep that in mind. I think I preferred the sound of the RODE VMP+ right out of the camera, but both of them are reasonably balanced for this class of microphone.
And....HE’S BACK! Hooray! Very nice review and great coverage sir! I also have this mic and it’s really nice.
Thanks BFM!
I’ve been binging your videos this week and just wanted to say thanks for the great info
Thanks Tyler!
I just got this today, and this review video still holds up. Thanks for the analysis!
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Just starting out with a canon c100, putting the kit together and I think this is the mic for us. Thank you for your valuable, no nonsense vids.
👍 Happy filming!
Is this mic not meant to connect to a boom mic stand? It sounded like you said you were using this mic to record this video but for some reason I'm unable to connect it to my boom mic stand is there a special adapter or something that I need?
Hi Kevin, You'll need a 5/8 to 3/8" adapter. Here is an Amazon affiliate link to the one I use (I earn from qualifying purchases) geni.us/pDBy
Great info - thanks. Would you prefer this mic over the Rode VideoMic NTG? (Indoors, connected via 3.5mm)
I prefer the sound of the DIETY, but the battery in mine no longer charges and I haven't taken the time to get it replaced by DEITY.
@@curtisjudd ok thank you :) Sorry about the battery.
A Deity reviews a Deity!
"He said, 'let there be sound,' and it was so, and he heard that it was good.
Thank you for this blessing, Curtis! I didn't think I would encounter a mic that I would consider in place of the Smic2, but this nudged its way in... I'm impressed in its functionality!
Haha! Thanks again Insanejughead! Happy recording! And you again win the price for the first comment to make me literally LOL!
LMAO, you should write poetry my dude
haha this is an amazing comment
If I have the Deity D3 Pro connected directly to the camera, will it turn off when I turn the camera off, and then turn on when I turn the camera back on? (without me pushing any buttons?)
Mmmm, sort of. You still have to turn it on at the start of the day and it will go into something of a sleep mode until you turn your camera back on. But the battery will run down if you leave it in the on position all the time.
@@curtisjudd thanks!
The presenter Curtis Judd is an outstandingly excellent communicator.
Thank you, Michael.
Do you have a recommendation between the Deity D3 Pro and the Rode VideoMic NTG?
I prefer the sound of the DEITY but the RODE has more features such as use as a USB audio interface.
@@curtisjudd Yeah, I watched several comparison videos and I think I lean slightly towards DEITY in terms of sound quality. The D3 Pro is also currently $139 compared to $250 for the Rode NTG. Thanks for the response!
Hi there!
I currenty own a really cheap Movo VXR10 and I got some problems with it. The microphone is so loud from itself, that I can't lower the volume down in my camera and it still clips if I am in the car (for ex.). I've been looking into new microphones and I really don't know what to do.
This one does not have a negative DB dial, does it? Is it much louder then the Video mic pro+? That one does have a -10 db. The internal sound of the Sony6500 is terrible.
What should I do? Go for the Deity or Video mic pro+.
Hi Wess Media, I found both the D3 Pro and RODE VideoMic Pro+ to work well with the Panasonic GH5 which also has a very hot mic input. So there is enough room to reduce the output volume for both of these to work. I just don't know about the Sony a6500.
Curtis Judd thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I'm really curious if the video micro and the deity have the same db output on the lowest possible setting. Would you know that by chance?
The RODE can go to -10dB (assuming that means -10dB from its unity gain setting). The D3 Pro's has a sensitivity spec of -24dB~-44dB re1V/Pa. So this isn't an apples to apples comparison, but both work nicely with the GH5 in my tests.
Hey Chris, awesome stuff. What's the best recommended on OR off camera recorder to get good, clean sound at LIVE concert events that's compact, effective and still affordable? I use the Song a7iii camera and as expected, even at the lowest audio setting, on board audio can be overblown. I would also like to use this mic for vlogging (at home and on the road) if one does exist. Or would I need to get an on camera mic (Rode, Deity) and a field recorder such as Zoom H5?
Probably something like the RODE Stereo VideoMic Pro: ua-cam.com/video/GnH7oR2pYsI/v-deo.html
VERY helpful video, thank you Curtis!
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I'm an owner of the Aputure V-Mic D2, which I can only assume this mic is the successor to. I'm a big fan value wise of the D2 and am wondering how much of an improvement this mic will offer. I like that they've gone to rechargeable lithium from the AAA configuration on the D2 and the size is more compact as well. Not sure on audio quality though. Any thoughts on that, Curtis?
Hey Gerald, I never had the chance to work with the D2 so I’m not sure how it compares in terms of audio quality. If you’re ever in the Park City Utah area, let me know and we’ll do a comparison.
You really deserve more subscribers. Been following for years. So thankful for your content.
Thanks!
I purchased this microphone a couple of months ago and I'm more than happy with it. The gain knob is a really nice touch.
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Curtis just tested the mic out today. Its amazing thank you for the suggestion. I feel its has more clarity then my video mic pro.
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Thank you very much, between your videos, Gerald Undone and DSLR Video Shooter. I've learned a lot and I'm on my way to making my first short film. Thank you very much, I really appreciate this reviews and recommendations.💙
Thanks and happy filming!
Hey Curtis. I came back to watch this because I am in the market for a camera mount mic. The thing that had me interested in the Rode Video Mic Pro Plus, is the auto on/off. What about this mic, does it have the auto on/off feature?
Hi Jay, good to hear from you! It sort of does, but you must first put it in standby mode. It’ll stay in that mode for 15 minutes and if it doesn’t detect your camera recorder on in that time, it shuts off completely.
What I have noticed with the RODE VMP+ is that it is basically always in standby mode which is cool but if you don’t use it for a few days, it runs the battery out. So it is a trade-off.
Curtis Judd Thank you!!!
This review made me buy this mic! When you said it was a great mic for the price and it was for people who are looking to start working with quality audio I knew this was it! Man what a great buy this was. I’m considering pairing this with a rode wireless set up.
Thanks Adam!
Getting close to that silver UA-cam Play button I see ;) Great video as always.
Thanks Saphir3000!
Super great and comprehensive video Curtis, thanks for sharing!
Thanks Tomas!
I already have the RODE VideoMic Pro+, and I love it. The D3 Pro looks like an excellent choice as well. I might pick one up as back up. It certainly seems worth the investment. Man, those Rycote windscreens are expensive. Excellent review.
BOYA and MOVO make some as low as $9 that will work. It needs to be atleast 13cm interior depth.
Yes, Rycote charges higher prices I suspect for at least 2 reasons: 1) They do the R&D to make these designs which work really well and 2) they're based in the UK where employees are not cheap. But I can say that their gear is top notch in terms of performance and durability over time.
Good to have you back. This looks like my next upgrade on sound. Thank you for a great review.
Thanks Mark!
Thank you! Been going back and forth between this and the Rode Video Pro + and your review, examples and even showing using with boom make the Deity V Mic D3 Pro an easy choice. Appreciate your clear fact and testing methods. Thanks again!
Thanks Bruce! Happy recording!
I received mine today... Great mic. First expensive mic in my kit
👍 Happy recording!
Looks like this will be my first shotgun mic :)
Happy recording. 🎤
Haven't seen anyone commenting on recording of live music with this mic. Anyone have feedback on this? Thanks!
Should work fine for a mono music recording.
Thanks Curtis. Excellent teaching as usual. Could you please do a video covering all of your mics, why you chose them and what you use them for?
Yes
This is a good one. Giving Rode Pro a run for its money especially with the adjustable gain. I may just have to get one. Thank you Curtis. -Will
Thanks Will. Yes, Nice to see this type of competition.
THANK YOU for this review. I"ve been waiting for this. This looks like an awesome piece of kit for the money. Good quality and great versatility. This will make a nice Christmas present for my new Pansasonic G9 which is a Christmas present for me. Love the flexibility with this as a decent boom mic along with a camera mount, the many handy features, and quality. I'll make sure to purchase using your link, though I do prefer B&H.
Hi Art, good to hear from you! I'll add the B&H links once they start selling them (not listed on their site at the moment).
Useful and thorough, as always. Thanks Curtis! I wish I had bumped into you at NAB. I would have introduced myself and thank you in person. Keep up the good work!
Thanks alonzojt. Maybe next year!
This looks like a great versatile mic for beginner creators :)
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super clean explanation and review of this mic. really enjoyed the video!
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Just got this mic. This video was incredibly helpful. Thank you so much for making these intuitive videos.
Thanks!
Thank you Curtis for your very comprehensive video
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Which deadcat will fit on this?
There isn't a specific one made for the D3 Pro yet as far as I know. But the mic's diameter is 21mm so any of the rycote softies for 21mm mics would be worth considering: bhpho.to/2zjYM9y
Maybe contact Deity support to see if they know of any lower cost options.
@@curtisjudd Thanks Curtis!
Fantastic as always
Thanks Andrew.
Good demo. I heard more ambient room reflections in the Rode. You confirmed this with the off-axis test. Maybe this is my new mic.
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Another great video by you. I also have a D3 Pro and I really like it. Normally for my voice over work I use Shure SM7B and when I just do not want to show my mic on the screen I use D3.
Nice combination!
Mahmud, have u ever tried comparing the d3 vs the smb7? I have the d3 and luv it but debating whether it's worth the investment to upgrade to the smb7. I need it for simple vlogging on my canon m50 at home
Im looking at a D3 Pro as budget choice for upgrading from Rode video micro. I do use the Rode wireless go 2 running the sound directly to the mic input in an Atem Mini Pro. My question, will the Deity D3 Pro work well with the Rode wireless or should I spend the extra 100-ish dollars for a Rode video mic pro+? Im using the mic on a table top tripod 20 inches out of frame in front of me - I want to push back about 12 more inches but still have decent audio.
These little shotgun mics just don’t have that much “reach” so it will isolate a bit more than the micro, but you’ll still pick up a good bit of room ambience.
I am so glad a human like you exists. Thanks for the great reviews, bud!
Wow, thanks, that made my day!
Welcome back Curtis hope you had a great time 👍😎🙏
Thanks! I had a restful time which is what I needed. 🙂
Hi Curtis, thanks for another excellent review. Really appreciate your considered in-depth assessments with a clear one screen summary up front. You are my goto audio kit reviewer and I subscribed 3 weeks ago. I now find myself 'binge viewing' your channel to learn more. As a photographer on a convergence journey to video, I'm a video novice who's sound knowledge and practice are a weakness - so your insights are valued. Just took delivery of this Deity V3 Pro as my first step towards decent sound in video. Maybe I will gravitate towards off-camera sound recording, into something like a SD Mix-3, with timecode sync in post.... but know I must 'learn to walk my Deity, before trying to run' with greater complexity (and cost). Anyway...top reviews.
Thanks Ricky and best wishes on your journey!
Glad you did this video ! I was about to buy the Rode videomic pro + (for an ambiant mic on top of panasonic camcorder v770), but this one sounds at least equivalent to me. I have to check if it works with my camcorder and if it does I will probably buy it because it is significantly less expensive than the Rode.
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Thanks.
I wonder if your self-noise tests would be different with 'A-weighting', to match the ear's response?
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Wow! You are truly a audio pro! I like your white noise test! Great content!
Thanks Alan!
this mic looks like a nice addition to the audio kit. thank you for the effort and the sharing. i am a very satisfied subscriber. thumbs up.
Thanks smalltalk.productions.
Well done, excellent presentation Curtis!
Thank you!
I would love to hear a side-by-side of what this sounds like compared to mounting a Senny MKH-416 into the GH5's XLR adapter but in the same position as the top-mounted mic instead of boomed.
Me too! Know where we can borrow a 416 and the XLR1 adapter?
@@curtisjudd I've got a 416 in my studio if you're near LA, but no XLR1
@@TommyCallaway I might just call on you next time I'm in the area.
Curtis Judd cool! Hit me up. I’ve got about 6 other mics you could mess with while you’re out here if you need. Blue spark, blue baby bottle, rode vmp+, Sony wireless lavs, comica wireless lavs, that MKH 416, and a few other cheaper ones. I’m in the Valencia area (just north of la)
Will do!
Nicely done. I like the straightforward "thumb's up"!
Thanks Otis!
My wife went onto my UA-cam account on the Nvidia Shield and said, "let me pick a video I think you'll like." After 30 seconds or so, she clicked on this video. She was right! 😂
Quick question, do you think -12dB and level 4 on the D3 Pro is the optimal setting on the GH5? The reason I ask is that I found the levels to be a lot lower on my Tascam DR70D when using the D3 Pro compared to the S-Mic 2. I didn't want to loudness normalize and find myself boosting the noise floor, so I opted to turn the D3 Pro to the 10 setting. It still wasn't clipping on the Tascam and still lower in volume to the S-Mic 2. Just trying to figure out the optimal settings.
Hi Joe! Too funny! The setting at 4 worked well for the GH5 into it's 3.5mm mic input. I believe that when you are using the mic with the 3.5mm to XLR adapter into an XLR input, you'll want to set the gain dial to 0 and let the recorder/preamp do the amplification work. On my DR-60DmkII, I set the gain dial to 0 on the D3 Pro, then set the gain for input channel one to mid and the trim dial near max to get the peaks hitting around -12dB. I like to leave about that much headroom on consumer level recorders like the Tascam in case things get a little loud. How does that work on your end?
@@curtisjudd I am not using the XLR adapter, just the 3.5mm input on the Tascam DR70D labeled "EXT IN 1/2"
@@joentell Ah, ok. Sorry about that. I had to crank the D3 Pro to 10 with the input gain on the DR-60DmkII's 3.5mm input set to high gain. The Tascam DR 3.5mm inputs are notoriously poor (though the XLR inputs are good). So I'd go straight to camera in that case.
@@curtisjudd Thank you sir. That makes a lot of sense. I never considered that the 3.5mm input would be different, but of course. 🙏
To my ears, they sound crazy similar. And the deity you can CHARGE, and has a better build quality.
Not bad. Thanks for the review Curtis!
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As always, a thoughtful review. I would however like to hear it used as an on-camera mic instead of a close boom, since that's what it's designed to do. I worry about the short interference tube not dealing with longer distances well while still delivering some comb filtering indoors, and an on-camera test would give a little more insight into that.
Hi Colin, thanks. The samples were recorded on camera (GH5) at approximately 3 feet. You will note more "room" sound in those recordings vs. the rest of the talking head clips where it is boomed over my head. The Deity does ever so slightly better than the RODE in terms of "dealing with longer distances" because of its slightly more focused polar pattern, but once you get beyond about 3 feet, you'll pick up a fair bit more room or location sound.
Jeez - you even said as much in the video. Not sure how I missed that!
@@colinfrangos9653 No worries at all. Happy recording! 🎤
Than you Curtis! very nice review!
Thanks Family Guy!
Again for the nth time a super great review.
But.. Question Curtis, would you recommend this if i'm going to shoot in an indie film with indoor dialogue scene (ex. Bathroom or a small room low ceiling with lots of stone walls) - lots of reverberation than using my shotgun mic *NTG3* connected to F8 with Rode Newshooter or Sony UWPD11.
I'm saving to get a AT4053b or Audix SCX1 -- I'm currently using Samson C02 (which is i'm kinda unhappy with some of the results) and NTG 2 & 3b
Should I just save to get the 4053b or can I use the VMic D3 Pro for indoor dialogue for some tvc's, online ads or indie films?
I would love to hear your response.
Regards from the Philippines. Thanks so much!!
Hi Mikhail, No, if you've already got an NTG3, no need to add this. The D3 Pro is also a shotgun/interference tube design. For those tight indoor spaces, best to save up for the AT or Audix. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd Thank you so so much!! If i could subscribe more than a hundred times I'll do it. Haha! Great help. Looking forward to seeing your new video. ☺️
If I already have the RODE VideoMic Pro+, would this be worth upgrading? Your video says this is probably better to get due to its price, but I'm wondering if it'd be worth the $200 to buy this to replace the RODE or if something else is better.
Are you having problems with the VideoMic Pro+? If not, I’d stick with it.
@@curtisjudd No problems whatsoever. I'm just always trying to get better audio and like keeping up to date with what's out there :) I'll keep using it then.
Hey Curtis!
I just purchased this microphone for my old Canon T3i. I have the internal gain set as low as possible while the knob set at +10. This is the most optimal way for reducing noise but I still get a decent chunk of white noise.
Do you know if recording to a H4n pro vs. into camera will make a difference in terms of noise reduction?
It is definitely worth a try. Camera preamps on older DSLRs were notoriously poor. If you've got an H4n Pro, that'd be my first choice. Best wishes!
I thank you for the effort you put on doing these reviews. Hug!
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Hey Curtis, what IS a shotgun mic that could handle much more distance from the subject?
Long shotgun mics like the RODE NTG8 and Sennhesier MKH8070 or ME67:
NTG-8: bhpho.to/2Ju8WNf
Sennheiser MKH8070: bhpho.to/2JRyMdr
Sennheiser ME67: bhpho.to/2JST32i
Hi Curtis! Is there an elegant solution to use this on the Blackmagic Pocket 4K seeing as the camera doesn't provide plug-in power? Is there a 3.5mm to mini-XLR cable that can convert phantom to 3V ‘Plug-in Power’? I've just purchased it and would sometimes like to have it on the camera.
I've got the 3.5mm to XLR adapter from Deity but then I'd be using 3 parts (3.5mm cable + adapter + XLR to mini-XLR cable)
Hi Diego, the mic does not need plugin power as it supplies its own power. The problem with the P4K is the way it is wired which is completely unique. You may need a TRS cable to trick it. But contact DEITY support for details.
Hello Curtis, i have been looking at these comparisons for awhile and there are 2 things that bother me about the de3.
First and the most important is the battery. This seems to be a mic which will only last maybe 3 years and then it becomes thrash, or it will resell for little, like a smartphone.
Second is reliability, i have seen some users comment about receiveing products with poor or damaged batteries.
The only thing i dislike about the rode is the location of the 3.5mm cable.
Right now if you shop you can find lightly used Rode pro+ at 200$.
Which are your thoughts about this?
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I don’t use on-camera mics much so I haven’t stressed the battery over time but I follow your reasoning. In regard to batteries, it seems like the VMP+ draws on its battery constantly, even in standby so you have to recharge every 3 days or so, whether you use the mic or not. So there are trade offs on both.
Hey Curtis,
I keep coming back to this video because I'm planning on shooting my second short film in the next few weeks. It has a lot more dialogue so the cheap lav mic with Zoom H1 solution isn't gonna cut it anymore.
I was first planning to just rent a Sennheiser MKH 416 with a full audio kit just to be save but now I'm not so sure anymore. Just simply buying something like the Deity D3 Pro with the location kit could save me a lot of hassle and money in the long run but I'm just not sure if the audio is gonna be good enough. I know I will also need something like the Rode blimp for wind protection as well. That would fit without problems, right? Would you say this would be an acceptable option for booming dialogue, maybe even combined with a Zoom H1 still? It would save me sooo much money but I also want the sound to be good...
I think it would be good, even with an H1. Number one thing is to boom within 18 inches of the talent.
@@curtisjudd Alright thank you for the help. I purchased your production sound course a few years ago so I know all about that 18 inch rule my dude ;) Would you say the Rode Blimp Mark 2 would be a good option for this and some better XLR mics in the future? I can't seem to find the Rycote one you're showing in this video but I'm guessing it's way more expensive anyway...
@@Saphir3000 Yes, and the Blimp 2 has the same Rycote suspension system. I'd definitely go with the Blimp 2 - it works really well.
I bought one, and it came with a faulty battery. I contacted Deity over social media and they sent out a replacement for me from their Hong Kong Office. Just be aware that these things happen, and I'm not sure how much quality control happens in the background, but I'm giving this company a try. I've already bought the VLAV, S Mic 2 and the D3 Pro. The replacement they sent holds a charge but I have not yet tested its longevity, but good on Deity for immediately replacing it with a new mic. I did open up the broken mic and it's (interesting) how they constructed it. Later on that.
Thanks for telling us about your experience. Good info!
can you help me understand. Why around 3 minutes in do you have on the left screen all the infor about the D3 and above it says "you are listening to he rode. I'm easily confused. Which is it and not to be a wise guy but why would you do that? I hope it's just me being confused. Thank You,
PS. Big fan of you and your channel and videos. UNDONE suggested I watch this video on one of his videos
It was a mistake. Please accept my sincere apologies. You were in fact listening to the RODE at that point.
Thanks for all you do, Curtis. I am primarily a still shooter, but like most shooters I have had to start doing more video. I have a client with a large West Coast style open office, complete with 30' ceilings, lots of glass, concrete floors, and white noise generators. I need to do a series of talking head videos in their space which presents obvious issues from the audio front.
I will do what I can to bring moving blankets in, but I have a mic question. I have a Joly modified Oktava 012 hypercardioid which I use as my primary boom mic (thanks for that review BTW), along with a Rycote BBG, as well as a decent wired lav and a couple Samson cardioid mics (for backup). I plan to pick up a Fethead Phantom to help push to my Zoom H5, but my question is this... Should I consider a D3 Pro or another "true" shotgun mic for this particular boom application? I know that shotguns are really meant for outdoor applications, but these wide open spaces and sound reflections worry me. I will need to feature a decent amount of the office environment when framing, so getting in closer than 12"-18" is a non-starter.
Thank you in advance for your valued opinion.
Cheers!
Hi Scott, no, a shotgun can run into phase issues via its interference tube when in reverberant spaces and the mic is slightly off axis of the talent. In this case, I’d rely on the lav mic and look to boom from under the frame with the Oktava. Wide interviews are a challenge and I usually end up using a Lav.
@@curtisjudd Thanks so very much for the prompt response. One clarification... If I have enough headroom with the composition, would you still suggest booming from underneath the subject rather than from above? My guess is that I should be able to get the mic within 15" or so from the subject.
Again, thank you for all of your videos... You have been a tremendous resource as I learn more about the video side of the business. Cheers!
@@ScottClintonPhotography If you can get within 15" by booming above, that is almost always the preferred position.
Hi Curtis! When I use this mic on the pocket 4K with the Deity D-XLR adapter I get extreme noise levels. Totally unusable. Also when there is not even a microphone contected to the adapter there is a lot of noise. Do you have any idea how this is possible or what is wrong?
Hi Suzanne. Do you also get the same amount of noise if you use the 3.5mm microphone input on the P4K? You'll need a TRS cable to make that work, but just curious. Might be worth contacting DEITY support to see if they can help optimize that setup. Best wishes!
Great Video!
What do you think about this microphone for filmmakers? (dialogue for short films, documentarys, etc)
I’d look at the D4 in 2023: ua-cam.com/video/FPw77qwIgGc/v-deo.html
I think you should do a test outdoors, since DSLR cameras are More often use that way. The lowend of Rode is Better, don't you think?
Good idea, thanks for that. There is more low end on the RODE. The D3 sounds closer to my actual voice.
Thank you for this. You've really helped me a lot and I'd love your opinion on a mic selection, specifically a deity mic. I shoot you tube videos and educational e-Learning courses. I've been using an SM57 to Fethead to Scarlett in my home office and it works quite well. When I'm on the road, I take an AT875r and plug it into a Saramonic Smartrig 2. This is a fairly compact light weight set up that allows me to plug into my smartphone but also into my laptop headphone jack and record very good audio without a USB interface .... BUT I've got micitis ... and started thinking about a MKH416 until I saw the new S-Mic 2. I know 416 and S-Mic 2 can be used as both shotguns and for Voice Work quite well. But now I see this D3 Pro and I have to ask could I use the the D3 Pro be used effectively from my desktop? Would it sound good enough to do Podcasts with and is the sound comparable to the S-Mic 2? Thanks for considering offering an opinion on this. I don't mind having 2 or 3 mics for different uses but If I could pare down the amount of equipment I have without compromising quality of sound that would be awesome. I may just sell everything I currently have and get and get these two Deitys. Thanks again!
Hi Howard, The D3 Pro is good, but for some situations, I'd feel a lot better having the superior RF rejection capabilities of the S-Mic 2 and especially the MKH416 (which uses an RF bias design). If you're going to pare down to fewer microphones, I'd spend a little more and get one of the higher end mics which does better with RF. Our world is only getting more noisy in terms of RF. Its a bummer when you lose a take to interference.
Great video. Just to clarify: Did you plug the mics directly into the GH5, or did this go via an external recorder? Do you reckon this would work to shoot a close-up dialogue between two people while mounted on the camera?
To camera. It’ll sound like a camera mounted microphone meaning it will pick up more room sound than if you boom it closer to the talent.
Great informative video. Would it work okay for outdoor video of wildlife 100 yrs away
Thanks George. Not really. For capturing sound at that distance, you really need a rather specialized microphone such as a parabolic.
Welcome back, Curtis!
Thank you Tim, good to be back!
Great review, you're the best outhere for audio. How would you connect it to the pocket 4k? The provided cable doesn't work so I got a trs to trs, but it still seems quiet to me on 75% gain on the camera and +20db on the mic. Would it be better to run it to the xlr? That would be quite cumbersome though... Thanks
It sounds like you got farther with the P4k and this mic than I did! Good work. I'll need to get an adapter cable and see how it goes. Thanks!
Filip Mašek did you ever get the Deity D3 Pro working? Mines constantly in sleep with my pocket 4K. Works fine on my Nikon and one of my work mates GH5. I’ve tried TRS to TRS, TRRS to TRS, TRS patch cable, Mini XLR to XLR with a XLR to 3.5 😂 nothing works for me
Love your videos, I learn so much! Quick question: I have this mic and the H4n. Are there any settings you would recommend? Should I turn down the H4N gain as much as possible and bring the microphone gain up or the other way around? Thanks!
Thanks Fred. I'd set the ZOOM's input level to around 25 and adjust the gain on the microphone from there until the meters top out at around -12dB.
Well done. Really enjoyed it.
Thanks
@curtisjudd Hey Curtis! Great channel! One quick question = If I need an extension cable to run between the mic and the camera (running from the Deity directly to a Fuji X-t3), what type of cord do I need to get and how long do you think it could be, at most, for the signal to be able to travel through without phantom power from the camera, relying solely on the internal battery of the mic? Thanks, best /Leo
Hi Leo, I'd try this: bhpho.to/2EEPmeP I'm not positive it will work, but pretty sure
Can this be plugged directly into the h1n or does it still need the TRRS to TRS adapter ?
The combo in this video sounds superb! Wondering what your input level is on the h1n. I always try to keep my level at 50 when using the rode smartlav, but my audio never sounds smooth like this audio.
I’m looking for an inexpensive option to boom my audio for interviews and have heard so many great things about the Deity D3 Pro.
Great video, BTW.
Hi Ric, This was recorded into the original Zoom H1. I believe the input level on the recorder was set to 50 or so - it's been a while so this is from memory. Good luck!
Awesome video! I have the same gear. I need to get a boom pole setup. On camera isn’t going to work. I’m filming 10’ away. Recommendations for long cable to gh5? Thanks! Subbed
Hi Rotter, I haven't used this on a 3.5mm extension cable but any decent quality TRRS to TRRS 3.5mm extension cable should do the job. Best wishes!
Dear Curtis.
First off I have to say I love your videos and I learned a lot from them. With this out of the way I have a question or better two for you.
So I am studying technical journalism and at first was focusing more on pr and writing but know I fell in love with shooting video and coming from a photographics point off view I had no idea how to get good sound. So for my projects for university I used their equipment. Which consisted of a rode ntg 2 with a tascam dr100 and a wireless lavalier setup from sennheiser. Last November I bought a "used" XT 3 which replaced my xt1 and filmed a bit with the new camera. Now that I start to look for my own audio equipment I am not sure what to get.
I shoot lots interviews so like I said i am mostly familiar with shotgun and lavalier mics.
After searching a bit I found the deity d3 pro and I like it from the hearing tests. But i am not sure what to get.
So would u rather go for:
A Deity D3 Pro with a zoom h1 or a zoom h4n or a tascam dr 60 or would u look for a completly different setup (I dont like wireless solutions that much)
Or go with a Rode NTG 2 with the recorders above.
And in addition to that what lav would u get (since money is an issue i would use it with a zoom h1 as a on body recorder or if i can get a cheep used one a zoom f1 but i doubt it)
Thanks for your help in advance. And keep up with the excellent work.
Thankfully Matthias
Hi Matthias, I think the D3 Pro and an H1 would be a good combination. But if you also need to record a lavalier, an H4n Pro might be a better choice as you could record both - the D3 Pro into one of the XLR inputs and the lavalier into the 3.5mm input. I'd usually recommend the Tascam for its XLR inputs but its 3.5mm input is not that great - quite a bit of self-noise. I would NOT recommend the NTG2 and H4n. They don't work well together. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd Thank you for the quick answer.
This was my fault with the first question I ment the H4n pro not the older H4n; saw your video ua-cam.com/video/PRd-nZGGSv4/v-deo.html in which you were mentioning it with the NTG 2.
Now since price is a matter and I maybe useing the lav with a recorder as a free on body solution I tend to shift to a setup with a H1 and a lav (which i can also use with a D3 pro in case I need a small solution).
But now I have a follow up question: So would you rather use a longer cable for the lavalier and tie the talent to the Shotgun mic or leave him the freedom. In the later case i would maybe opt for a combination of a H1 with a lavalier and a Tascam dr 60 with the deity or the Rode NTG 2, just because from a handling perspective I like the Tascam more (but is there a huge different in sound using the Tascam for one mic and the Zoom for another?)
So i guess i definitivly get a H1 (not the H1n event tough i like the features the not lockable dial is just a problem when using it on a talent; and the F1 and DR10 are just to expensive for me at the moment). And dependent on the mic I will maybe get an aditional recorder.
Best wishes!
I would only use a longer cable if you're shooting seated interviews. If the talent is moving, I'd go with the H1 and lavalier.
Hey Curtis... How would you compare this to the Smic 2.... So far... They really don't sound too much different... Just more (by more I mean a tiny bit) lift of the high end frequencies on the D3 Pro & the Smic2 is water proof.
I think you nailed the differences in terms of sound. Of course the big difference is that one has a native XLR output and the other 3.5mm. Oh, and the S-Mic 2 is bigger and has a substantially more focused polar pattern so it will reject a bit more ambient noise.
@@curtisjudd is it loads more at rejecting the off axis... If so then I'll keep saving. If it's minor then... I'll get the D3 Pro. As for it not being XLR, I'll get the Deity XLR adapter so I can run it into my Zoom F6.
@@DavidGriffin It is noticeably more directional. Also, that adapter - they said it converted the signal to balanced but I'm not sure about how or the type of balancing they've done. In other words, not sure you'll be able to run long cables without picking up interference. The D3 Pro is first and foremost a camera-top microphone.
@@curtisjudd this is what needs to be said in a year end review. Thanks. Info will tell ppl where each mic in the series stands.
Can deity d3 pro used in computer and phone by just plug the included cable in? or we need to used another cable?
Yes, can use the included cable for most computers and phones.
Curtis Judd when using computer, can d3 pro usd usb-c cable to connect with laptop?
Been sesrching everywhere for someone who can say something about using it with a zoom, thank god you mentioned it here! Didn't think it was gonne be on their website! Haha. Thank you for this! Tho im curious as to how you would set the gain on the h1n and the mic if you attached them together?
I'd. probably put the Zoom at 50/100 (or is it 5/10 on the H1n) and then use the D3 Pro's gain to optimize the level until the meters top out at -12dB.
@@curtisjudd Thank you!
Mr. Judd - I have another question: why do you upload in 4k? Is it personal preference? Do you find it helps with search ranking - I noticed that the top several results were 4k for 'deity d3 pro' - or is just for your audiences benefit? All three? Thanks.
Mostly so that when I do screencast demos of software, it makes it easier for people to see the details. It never crossed my mind that UHD would influence the search algorithm, I don’t usually give the search algorithm more thought than setting up the keywords for the video.
@@curtisjudd I see. I really appreciate it.
Pulled the trigger and did order it from Amazon, deity it's making it easy to choose them over Rode. They should push it a bit more and compete with the RodeLink next.
They’re working on it. 😀
Hi Curtis. Your channels are fabulous! I'm a small film maker I rely on them. Question on RF interference on the D3 pro: you demonstrate the RF issue with your Rode transmitter close to the mic on a boom. I want to mount this on my laptop with wifi running. However, I checked the low reviews on Amazon and B&H and 5-10 complain about constant and unrelenting rf noise, even after many remedy attempts. Is this the fault of an unshielded cable? have they upgraded the shielding? 🧐
Good question. I would suspect the cable, yes. I don’t know whether they’ve done anything to address that but you might try contacting their support to see? Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd Thanks Curtis. I think I’ll do that and I’ll try to share that answer with you and your followers.
@@VirtualVillageStudio Thanks!
Thanks Curtis. I am going to buy this one. Talking about the high pass filter, I will use my Zoom H1n as recorder. Should I use the high pass filter on this mic or to use the filter on H1n? What's your suggestion? Appreciate it.
Hi Hugo, I'd use the filter on the microphone to potentially leave more headroom in the H1n's preamp.
@@curtisjudd Got it! Thanks.
Great review as always!
Thanks Aaron!
Hey Curt! I'm thinking to switching from the rode wireless go + lavalier to the deity d3 pro using it on my gh5. At what maximum distance do you recommend using it from the camera? I mean to have a sound superior to the rode wireless go.
I do video courses at a distance of about 1 maximum 2m. Thanks!
Hi Francesco, for best results, I would keep the microphone within about 40cm of the person speaking. You can move farther away, but the sound will not be as rich and you will pick up much more room sound. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd thank you so much! what would I do without your advice! :)
Hey Curtis, been going through your many videos on mics, and I'm wondering if this one with the D-XLR adapter provides balanced output. If so, does this mean it can be used with cable runs over 20-ft? Also, if I'm using the D-XLR adapter, will I be able to plug it in to the mini-XLR on my BMPCC 6K Pro? I understand that the included TRS cable isn't compatible with BMPCC, but I'm hoping that if converted to XLR, that eliminates those compatibility issues. Also, your channel is the gold standard for this kind of information. Thank you!
Hi ekko808, I learned after I made the video that the DXLR adapter does something called impedance balancing which is not the same as using a transformer and I'm not sure whether it is just as effective. If you wanted to be sure, you might look at the RODE VXLR Pro instead, which does use a transformer to create a transformer balanced signal and with which you can make longer cable runs - easily 20+ feed.
And yes, a standard XLR to TA3 adapter should work fine with the 6K pro.
@@curtisjudd thanks Curtis. Do you think you'll make a comparison video showing difference between recording straight into a camera with XLR like the 6K and into a recorder? As a mostly one person shooter, I'd be really interested in your take, or any tips on that.
@@ekko808 I did years ago. My take is this: Test your equipment. If it sounds good, it is good. So go with it. Trust your ears and get out there and make some great videos. Here's the video from years ago if you think it would be helpful: ua-cam.com/video/2oZp_k7AmXs/v-deo.html
New to the channel. I found this very helpful. I am interested in purchasing a microphone for recording wildlife, primarily bird song. What do you think would work best for subjects that would likely be greater than 6’ away?
That depends on whether you want a microphone to capture a wide stereo ambience sort of sound or want something more isolating that captures mainly the sound at which you aim the mic. A longer shotgun mic will be more isolating. A stereo pair of cardioid microphones will capture better wide ambient sounds.
FYI. The Deity D3 Pro is nearly half off on Amazon. Really sweet deal.
👍
Can you do a video on blimps and windscreen etc...how they work, when use them, and price.
Yes: ua-cam.com/video/0WuHVobIQUs/v-deo.html
So for just twenty bucks i can opt for this instead of the vidmic pro (not the plus) for my G85. I do plan on enrolling in your audio course for my Christmas shopping.
That'd be a good deal at only $20!
gogo 100k :) ... and cheers for another great review!
Thanks Gregor!
fantastic review, thank you
Thanks tihkal!
Hi - My Deity D-3 Pro sat idle for over a year. When I tried to charge it, the battery failed to supply power, basically bricked. Deity will not cover it as it was bought at a non authorized dealer. Is there anyway to replace the Li-ion internal battery? I can only use it currently if I hard wire the mic with USB-C and AC adapter. Looks like I may have to purchase another one?
Hi Bob, I'm not a skilled DIY-er when it comes to these things. Perhaps someone else here can help?
Curtis I own a Rode videomic-go will the Deity D3 be a better mic on a Nikon D750 - I often use a boom when I use the Rode.
Definitely, yes, both in terms of audio quality and output level.
@@curtisjudd thanks Curtis - I think the base one would be right for me plus a boom pole adaptor of some sort. I see there is a location kit but it has a XLR adaptor that I wouldn't use.
@@markshirley01 Hi Mark, the D3 base model comes with a shock mount with a cold shoe. I'm not sure, but it might have a 3/8" tap on the bottom (the D3 Pro version does) so that will work with a boom pole, but cannot be adjusted like a proper pole shock mount like those from Rycote. You could just buy a Rycote shock mount like this, though they're not super inexpensive: bhpho.to/2rCXswC
Great video, thank you. I will pick this Mic up as a replacement of my Rode Video Micro
Happy recording!
Hi Curtis. Very impressive assessment as usual. Could you inform me about its sound quality compared with Rode VideoMic Pro+ in term of several aspects like: bass, treble, clarity, sibilance, etc? Which one is better? Thank you!
Hi Nata, I believe the D3 Pro may have been discontinued so keep that in mind. I think I preferred the sound of the RODE VMP+ right out of the camera, but both of them are reasonably balanced for this class of microphone.
@@curtisjuddThank you, Curtis. Very clear and helpful.