You're practicing filmmaking the WRONG way

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  • @Kaotix_music
    @Kaotix_music 2 роки тому +126

    your explanation of musicians looking at their inspirations to get better, rather than practicing scales and chords is spot the heck on. I do music production for a living and get asked SO MANY times "What can I do to be better at music production!??" and the answer I give every single time is - Remaking your favorite songs. Sound by sound, drum by drum, fill by fill, even try to sound design the same leads you hear in all the synths or flip through all your synth preset packs and try to find sounds close to it and save them in a separate folder to use later for your own work. By using your ears to recreate what you hear in your favorite song to be nearly identical you learn so many things and actually *understand* what it is youre hearing and why youre hearing it. Why it makes sense to have that certain element in the song. Way bring it in one section and take it away in another etc etc. IT makes your brain wrap your head around all the concepts so much better

    • @AleksPlaysMc
      @AleksPlaysMc Рік тому +1

      When I used to play my horn more I used to get asked a million times about my practicing and how I'd sound like certain guys, and all I did was listen to them and play along to their notes and then just play over a recording to play what sounds right while mimicking their sound and style. It can be good practice to look at these shots and find what defines them and make them yours even if still mimicking it. At least with music, I was able to retain that sound and that style from whatever player I would emulate so much better if I learned to play along and then followed it up by playing how I'd imagine they'd play at a different gig or on another run-through. I'd imagine it'd better internalize what characteristics are important to the shot the same as it helped me find comfort basically doing musical impressions of the different players I've admired so much.
      I find it really funny I got so far without understanding past what a diminished scale is, and I've still got buddies hyping me up years later in university anytime they can invite me to a gig. Might say something about these skills. Enjoy what you're doing and you'll be able to get good at it just by seeing so much of it and doing it yourself. A good lens, a decent body, and a love for looking at gorgeous shots could probably land some solid jobs. But learning all the mechanics and settings pushes you further forward into being able to consistently perform well.
      But sadly that's why I quit playing so much. At a certain level, you're expected to only mess up in the sense of missing a note or two in a read, but when you can't quickly read all the chords and you're not near fast enough for those pro charts then you get a big slap in the face and learn to show all the respect to those who can perform better than your best and do it every night. I'm just glad to have a hobby now and I plan to treat photography the same so I don't burn out like I did with music for a while.

    • @DanPeal1
      @DanPeal1 Рік тому +2

      Most likely same goes with majority of art disciplines. I'm painter myself, and best way to learn it to study master paintings, 1:1 copies, in this case you have to understand how they tackled certain problems

    • @D5Do
      @D5Do 10 місяців тому

      Definitely true. I don't know scales or the very basics, since I went straight to playing songs on the guitar and the piano. Now I just learn the songs I like and practice those until I can play them the way I want.

  • @arthurlorenzocolombini9956
    @arthurlorenzocolombini9956 2 роки тому +161

    "In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not. " A.Einstein
    it applies to the whole life experience / thanks for the reminder Ryan!

    • @prajjwalvinodh968
      @prajjwalvinodh968 2 роки тому +13

      “Wait, did I say that”
      A. Einstein

    • @imabadboi
      @imabadboi 8 місяців тому

      he isn't just 'A' Einstein
      He is THE Einstein smh

  • @Indian.Traveller
    @Indian.Traveller Рік тому +1

    Learnt something new today, "Don't just try filmmaking, practice it.. and practice it in the right way". Thank you so much for this

  • @lifeofcarter
    @lifeofcarter 2 роки тому +112

    Can't tell you how much I needed this reminder to go out and practice and try and recreate some of my favorite content creators shots! Thanks!

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +7

      It’s so refreshing!!!

    • @mySeaPrince_
      @mySeaPrince_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@RyanKao
      I have always been interested in the making of...
      Like thing's .. in any material and it's design
      &
      this includes how a film or game was made.. there are a few YT channels that look into this.. but I like it when DVDs include a second disc of extras and making of.. or later a documentary..
      One point I notice is your film's .. your a step up from videos 😻 ..
      are in 18:9 but sometimes .. whatever happens (I'm watching on an android phone) and it plays in 18:9 but in the width of 16:9 having a piece at the bottom which is showing something else.. I'm not sure of the cause.
      It's not just your channel, sometimes by stopping that film.. going to another channel start watching for a couple of seconds and stop it.. then come back to your film can fix it.. sometimes..
      I like the 18:9 and would like to upload in this format but can YT actually handle it?
      Ryan I've just noticed there are spam replies.
      Put the certain words in blocked.

  • @prohere21
    @prohere21 2 роки тому +37

    This makes a lot of sense. I compare this to my experience years ago when I first started learning English. My teacher told me that instead of learning individual words it was better to focus on learning complete sentences. Now I am super motivated to practice with one of my favorite series ''MR Robot'' Thanks man!

    • @lewisguapo
      @lewisguapo 2 роки тому +5

      Can't go wrong with mr robot, best show out there...

    • @prohere21
      @prohere21 2 роки тому +3

      @@lewisguapo I've seen it 3 times already and I think this is going to be the 4th time 😂

  • @Bryantfstephens
    @Bryantfstephens Рік тому +1

    I’m literally 2 minutes into this video and got the chills. “He’s right!” Everything else I do I follow this. Even my photography I do but for some reason not my filmmaking… I’ve even heard that quote before.
    Thanks a lot I’ll do better to be better.

    • @c.allangba
      @c.allangba 10 місяців тому

      I'm telling you it's so weird😄

  • @got2beable
    @got2beable 2 роки тому +1

    bro MAN!!! that is the content im looking for. I am a total beginner and i always wanted to learn more about filmmaking and man you are doing such a good job on showing what we need and how we can do it. it helps me so much to start finally. thank you so much!

  • @WillBowers
    @WillBowers 2 роки тому +2

    been starting to do this more and more and you're so right, it helps confidence so much when you pull off a fire recreation of a shot that inspires you. thanks man :)

  • @jexsestudios4772
    @jexsestudios4772 Рік тому +3

    Literally just found your channel and all I can say is Thank you. The way you explained everything with such a chill vibe is gold. I'm usually energetic off camera, but my mood is similar to yours and you have inspired me to go out there and just create, practice, and perfect what I love!

  • @DigiplayW8
    @DigiplayW8 2 роки тому +3

    I have been doing this with photography. I got some professional presets for Lightroom and have been examining the changes they made and then go from there on my own. I think it's the perfect way to truly grasp concepts and a fantastic way to learn

  • @Supercon57
    @Supercon57 2 роки тому

    It's also important to not just know how to visually create those looks but to understand when and why you would use them

  • @lizkarendiaz7418
    @lizkarendiaz7418 Рік тому +1

    Found this video through recommendations and honestly so spot on, I was just thinking of how much I don't practice my skills but get new gear, I needed to hear this and I think I found it in the perfect time! Love your videos

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  Рік тому

      Really appreciate this Liz, and glad you could resonate with the message. Thanks for keeping up with the channel!!

  • @ayou52
    @ayou52 2 роки тому +4

    This should be a series on your channel! loved it man!

  • @rinusworldzm
    @rinusworldzm 2 роки тому +6

    This is invaluable stuff dude. Thank you for this and I honestly understand my own frustration now at my lack of growth in my craft. Practicing the wrong way that leads too less practice. I'm switching it up form here.

  • @kurtispeak
    @kurtispeak 2 роки тому +11

    Excellent portrayal of practicing your cinematography skills and just putting them to the test Ryan! I've been itching to create stuff like this too so you definitely boosted that for me! I loved the way you edited the ungraded footage to graded and it morphed into each other to match the shot in the film.

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +3

      Thanks so much Kurtis! Give it a try!!!

  • @australianboy
    @australianboy 2 роки тому +2

    A very good insight into filmmaking, cinematography, and personally for photography. Imitating, attempting to simulate, framing, recreating shots… so much goodness in one video. (Also enjoyed counting “of course”)

  • @heddlestenphotography3189
    @heddlestenphotography3189 2 роки тому +4

    I love videos like this just to see people’s workflow. I get really stumped and lose inspiration pretty easily, and seeing other people struggle, and seeing how they work through things really helps me get out of the funk. It’s hard to do that when everyone shows only the perfect results, it’s not as realistic to the real process. :)

  • @chrishudsonpk
    @chrishudsonpk 2 роки тому +10

    Beautifully done, Ryan! Would love to see more of these.

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +3

      Got more in the works!! Thanks Chris

  • @speeddemon4692
    @speeddemon4692 Рік тому +1

    As a beginner i never thought of it like that but i'm slowly starting to realize that the reason why cinematography or photography feel so abstract is because of the bits and pieces it takes from other things to create a contradictingly unique and skillful craft.

  • @petrolpoodle
    @petrolpoodle 2 роки тому +1

    One of my favourite videography videos I've watched in the last 2 years of binging! What a unique, inspiring and amazingly executed idea!

  • @ISRAADVISUALS
    @ISRAADVISUALS 2 роки тому +1

    Every camera video test video
    "Plants is the perfect thing to shoot to test this camera"

  • @thelazylorenz
    @thelazylorenz 2 роки тому +11

    This is really inspiring! You should make this a regular thing!

  • @giulianogirelli
    @giulianogirelli 2 роки тому +1

    in the great ocean of youtube as far as filmaking is concerned, I am only now aware of your great skill in communicating concepts in a simple and effective way, even from an emotional point of view. great job Ryan, bravo bravo

  • @arnoldmukama996
    @arnoldmukama996 Рік тому +1

    we need nore videos like this , i loved this one

  • @targetfilmsproduction
    @targetfilmsproduction 2 роки тому

    Very productive way of keeping your creativity fresh

  • @itsalexoh
    @itsalexoh 2 роки тому +2

    Loved seeing the BTS of all the scenes you recreated! My takeaway from this video is the realization of "I'm capable of creating frames that look like they can fit in those movies" when you put to practice your skills to create something you find interesting!

  • @SiThuVisuals
    @SiThuVisuals 10 місяців тому +1

    This is so amazing and inspiring. I finally got my on camera monitor and can’t wait to practice out. 👏🏻

  • @Alijaber7
    @Alijaber7 2 роки тому +4

    Amazing outcome. Can’t wait to get to color grading/correction part

  • @sethdubois1790
    @sethdubois1790 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome overview. It's one thing to have to learn on the fly, but practicing fundamentals helps make those "on the fly" moments much easier to handle.

  • @lisavanggg
    @lisavanggg 2 роки тому

    Your results were seriously spot on! The frame, the lighting, the colour. I'm blown away.

  • @iankim9684
    @iankim9684 2 роки тому

    you're the best! this really got me thinking. many thanks from korea I'm your big fan!

  • @Caz_snaps
    @Caz_snaps 2 роки тому +2

    This is good! I’ve been putting off starting to shoot random things or solo shots just walking around but it’s putting that first step and just shoot! Failure helps you get better!

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +2

      Absolutely!!! Go for it dude

    • @mySeaPrince_
      @mySeaPrince_ 2 роки тому +1

      Carry a camera with you ready to film...

  • @anthonypc1
    @anthonypc1 Рік тому

    11:50 Wow you make that couch sitting almost look easy! 💪🏼😉
    I wouldn't have guessed the core endurance that slouch took.

  • @paulbvid
    @paulbvid 2 роки тому

    U r the most well spoken filmmaker I follow. Bought the Sony 24-105 after seeing ur review on that. All ur posts are dope

  • @jacklee7343
    @jacklee7343 2 роки тому +8

    Humbling to see you continue to practice in your filmmaking journey!

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Jack!!! 🙏

  • @visualsofnova
    @visualsofnova 2 роки тому +1

    I had all the knowhow of camera and every technicality from file format to color spaces and what not. But I quit my job last year to pursue filmmaking and when I first held the camera to shoot, my mind was blank. I had references and all but no idea how to bring things in my head to life. Since then, It been 15 months and I'm working fulltime as a cinematographer/editor. I got interested in film through Peter Mckinnon in 2016 but started shooting in 2021, with one goal, to be better than peter. I'm still far from that but I'm already able to keep up people who have 5 times the experience I have. And the approach I take is simple, I'll keep observing and copying everything I can understand, and as I get better at those, I start to see even more things I previously couldn't see and rinse and repeat until I'm at the highest level. There no ceiling to how good of a filmmaker you can be, and I'll keep getting better and better.

  • @matheusdaring
    @matheusdaring 2 роки тому +1

    very nice, ryan. i think you're the most underrated creator right now on youtube. thanks for the great tips as always. cheers from brazil!

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +1

      Wow, thank you Matheus 🙏 appreciate your support

  • @alexisaguirrevideos
    @alexisaguirrevideos Рік тому

    Art is all about feeling at the end of the day. You have to practice getting good at transmuting intangible thoughts and feelings into meaningful experiences via art form. Which we art form you prefer, doesn’t matter as long as you feel it.

  • @wei-r-doe.tv.studios
    @wei-r-doe.tv.studios 2 роки тому

    Yes, definitely I’ve been in a major slump not having ideas or trying to save to purchase n produce good content but, this omg 😱 thank you 🙏🏾.

  • @jeffreyhofmeister3103
    @jeffreyhofmeister3103 Рік тому +1

    Rayon, thank you for this presentation. It was very informative. Kind of one that makes you think about what we need to keep in the back of your minds. My dad was a mechanical engineer, he always said practice, practice and more practice will make improvement. This kind of hits home.

  • @alilogs1256
    @alilogs1256 2 роки тому +1

    Both some how delivering the same message. beautiful

  • @calvinwongmedia
    @calvinwongmedia 2 роки тому

    Great video! My cinematography teacher in the past also asked us to do this exercise. We had to perfect the lighting as well too though.

  • @websurfer945
    @websurfer945 2 роки тому

    Great point bro, mindful about the practice and works is always the key

  • @nigell.8705
    @nigell.8705 10 місяців тому +2

    Your fiance, wife now probably, is a keeper.

  • @marcgalang707
    @marcgalang707 2 роки тому

    I love this video and the sponsor of this video, Canva. I use it everyday for powerpoints, social media graphics, magazine ads and all the way up to big billboards. It's insane. Now back to the video. I'm thinking of recreating a few shots from Mr. Robot and Taxi Driver.

  • @tubomit
    @tubomit 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you so much for this video which inspires me to practice in a much more efficient way. ♥️ from Việt Nam 🇻🇳

  • @Camera_n00b
    @Camera_n00b Рік тому +1

    Very interesting point of view about practice... I'll try it...Thanks!

  • @alexeypunov2642
    @alexeypunov2642 2 роки тому +3

    What a great video. Motivating, HQ results, perfect example of a great practice for a daily routine.
    You got my honest Subscribe, buddy

  • @baller4ad
    @baller4ad 2 роки тому

    I loved just coming along with you on this and watching you practice framing. Felt oddly soothing. 😃

  • @dtyusufceylan
    @dtyusufceylan 2 роки тому +1

    This is one of the most inspiring videos I’ve ever watched on UA-cam ! Thanks

  • @DanielGT_93
    @DanielGT_93 Рік тому +1

    Finally a good video that inspired me to try. Almost all videos talk about equipment and technical stuff, i need the ideias and inspiration. I tried all shots with my Nex 3f and an 35mm 1.6 by ttartisans, and given the equipment, i think it looked cool! Thanks

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  Рік тому +1

      Glad I could help Daniel! Thanks for watching!!

  • @apmotionbyandyphoto650
    @apmotionbyandyphoto650 2 роки тому +17

    I dont think perfect practice makes perfect as nice as it sounds, but i do believe that Practice Makes Improvement. Because we are never perfect we just become better than we were

  • @TheLoftySloth
    @TheLoftySloth 2 роки тому +2

    i love this idea. I have been wanting to do this with music videos for years!!

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +1

      Do it!! So much fun

  • @JayKayM
    @JayKayM 2 роки тому

    This was Insane Wow thank you Ryan🔥🔥🔥

  • @Federicoxserrano
    @Federicoxserrano 2 роки тому

    Love this man! What a great reminder.

  • @SachaBourlon
    @SachaBourlon 2 роки тому

    Man great vid! I actually started to do that a couple of months ago, but I only took shots and composition of Netflix’s documentaries as I love their storytelling!! Nice color grade btw !!

  • @muhmdmorra
    @muhmdmorra Рік тому +1

    I didnt find what i thought I would see from the video title, however I am glad i did watch the video!
    Man, this is so dam inspiring and u did a really good job!
    One of a few best videos touturial i found

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  Рік тому

      Amazing to hear. Glad you found it inspiring!! 🙏🥲

  • @LeviSpangler
    @LeviSpangler 2 роки тому

    I'm not sure why people think its a bad thing to "copy" shots that you find inspiring. Thats how every artist grows.

  • @priyaanshu6391
    @priyaanshu6391 2 роки тому +1

    This makes so much sense! I'm inspired. Thanks Ryan.

  • @nobacasanova
    @nobacasanova 2 роки тому

    i know i just got into this hobby recently
    ive been thinking about this alot, just gotta find the right buddy to help me over

  • @AbdulVid
    @AbdulVid 2 роки тому

    Omgg this was exactly what I needed hahah! After the first min I was like I gotta go do this rnn but then I couldn't just not watch the rest of the piece. Loved it!

  • @TristinOByrne
    @TristinOByrne Рік тому

    Thanks man really needed this in my life

  • @jared_taylor
    @jared_taylor 2 роки тому +1

    I definitely agree with this and have found recreating scenes or recreating color grades from movies have help me get way better. I even had a team practice a shot for shot scene from a movie. This really grew everyone a lot. And analyzing everything with the intention of recreating it is a way more involved version of analysis

  • @PrendosNewZealandLimited
    @PrendosNewZealandLimited Рік тому

    Last shot was pretty cool. Definitely going to try this exercise. Thanks heaps man.

  • @brandonfrancis1317
    @brandonfrancis1317 2 роки тому

    Should make this a series

  • @hogg1media627
    @hogg1media627 Рік тому +1

    Great idea!!!! its fast forwarding and challenging ourselves to EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD ACTION! good video!

  • @AdamAbello
    @AdamAbello 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome idea for actual practice 👏 giving some purpose to playing around love it

  • @leokeller
    @leokeller 2 роки тому +1

    probably my new favourite video on your channel

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +1

      Ayyyy thank you dude!

  • @Bluehmind
    @Bluehmind 2 роки тому

    The lighting and tha doggy 😅... Great work!!

  • @MrJimaja
    @MrJimaja 2 роки тому

    That's so very true! I've been practicing wrong, I'm glad I saw your video! You have a new subscriber!

  • @backyardjunkie
    @backyardjunkie 2 роки тому

    Ryan, this is great content, inspired now to try some of this. Thanks yooo, and your assistant of course.
    Nice apartment by the by, love the Windows to the floor..

  • @Biblicaltaylors
    @Biblicaltaylors 2 роки тому

    Best video I have seen on the internet bro. Seriously great to see and motivating.

  • @john.richter_
    @john.richter_ 2 роки тому +4

    Practice makes perfect.
    Excellent video mate! 🤍

  • @stevenkralovec
    @stevenkralovec 2 роки тому +1

    This is inspiring, Ryan! Now I want to try to recreate shots from movies I like

  • @lucaspacs
    @lucaspacs 2 роки тому

    Best and most useful video i've watched so far this year.

  • @AlexBjorstorp
    @AlexBjorstorp 2 роки тому

    Love this idea Ryan! Definitely something I need to try myself.

  • @MarcelWasserman
    @MarcelWasserman 2 роки тому

    Loving your content, thank bud.

  • @stevenxzuber
    @stevenxzuber 2 роки тому

    Ryan, a wonderful piece of content right here! I am insanely impressed about how much you have grown and the overall storytelling and quality of your work. Been following you since you had like 10k subs and here you are rocking 170k and many more to come! Keep it up man

  • @homesickandwestbound4321
    @homesickandwestbound4321 2 роки тому

    Great advice!!! I'm setting straight away to try some Wes Anderson inspired shots!

  • @glatznatureproductions
    @glatznatureproductions Рік тому +1

    Super inspirational and informative video. Thanks for sharing.

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  Рік тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @MapleOrange
    @MapleOrange 2 роки тому +2

    This definitely inspired me a lot, i really appreciate this man.

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +2

      Yoo thanks Leon!

    • @MapleOrange
      @MapleOrange 2 роки тому

      @@RyanKao anytime man I’m just trying to get like you

  • @jazmintabuena
    @jazmintabuena Рік тому

    This is very helpful! Thank you. Wanna try this one out soon.

  • @samuelmaynard84
    @samuelmaynard84 2 роки тому +34

    Awesome video bro I’m definitely going to try this! I love this idea. Is it a bit far fetched to recreate the Batman car chase scene😅

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +4

      Do it!!!!

    • @mySeaPrince_
      @mySeaPrince_ 2 роки тому +1

      I saw a video on YT about.. I think it was the latest film.. most were Visual Effects .. actually done for real..
      With a few Special Effects done after on a computer.. masking out the crane or rather large trolley car (17? tons) that made the Batmobile fly.. the lorry flipping was done for real, big spikes at the front of the cab and a massive air cannon under the trailer.. you see the smoke when it's upside down in the film.
      I enjoy watching the making of films..
      Also have a look at filming miniatures and how magicians do things.
      Just looked at your channel.. didn't watch any videos..
      Your getting a healthy number of views..
      On average 154 videos.. long form.. are needed to get 1000 subscribers.. your above that ratio.. keep doing what you are doing. At about 625 subscribers traction can happen, only a theory.. I've noticed.

  • @rasikmohanmunda1214
    @rasikmohanmunda1214 Рік тому +1

    very much creative way of getting better

  • @akarca
    @akarca 2 роки тому +1

    I agree

  • @KristinaAdventures
    @KristinaAdventures 2 роки тому

    wow absolutely love this idea Ryan! I always notice framing of content creators' videos and admire it, but I have never gone out to recreate them! will focus on that to improve my filmmaking. this is my first video I watch of yours, will be following you! keep up the outstanding work 😊👍

  • @alexisaguirrevideos
    @alexisaguirrevideos Рік тому

    My 5th grade teacher taught us this same quote that you started the video with. I love her.

  • @kpafilms
    @kpafilms 10 місяців тому

    Great Video! Would love a video like this one using a sony a7sii for people with older bodys

  • @irandario
    @irandario 2 роки тому

    I loved this one. Congrats! So inspiring!

  • @iclickridetravelbysoumita8193
    @iclickridetravelbysoumita8193 2 роки тому

    Great exercise for beginners! Thanks Ryan 🙏

  • @xinspiredu3294
    @xinspiredu3294 2 роки тому +1

    Drop the best shedule practice routine

  • @tomshani3349
    @tomshani3349 Рік тому +1

    Amazing advice mate!

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  Рік тому

      Glad it was helpful Tom!!

  • @MrDavidPartida
    @MrDavidPartida 2 роки тому

    Phenomenal upload 👏🏼
    Side: The Lobster has been added to the “to do list” for the day

  • @mannaffolki
    @mannaffolki 2 роки тому

    Nice work. Thanks for the inspiration!

  • @ChaceMcLees
    @ChaceMcLees 2 роки тому +1

    brb going to go recreate Ryan's videos for practice

  • @mossgatherer_
    @mossgatherer_ 2 роки тому

    This is so helpful and on the nose. Thank you!

  • @jj8624-s8m
    @jj8624-s8m 2 роки тому

    This was a great one, great analogies!

  • @Jossy.mp4
    @Jossy.mp4 Рік тому

    The one you did on the living room, I actually liked yours a lot better, especially cuz of the hair light coming in clutch from the sun. extra saucy :)

  • @jortex
    @jortex 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for the amazing videos! Super helpful and inspiring!

    • @RyanKao
      @RyanKao  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it 🤝

  • @YourArtJournal
    @YourArtJournal 2 роки тому

    Wow! Pure Talent! This is indeed inspiring. Thank you!