You Need This Tool - Episode 21 | 3 in 1 Shear Brake & Slip Roll
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You Need This Tool - Episode 21 | 3 in 1 Shear Brake & Slip Roll
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for everyone looking, prices are much lower on these today than was made i this video. The 30" "generic" model he has in the video can be purchased for less than $450 today and a "quality machine" from a manufacturer like Baleigh Industrial in 30" can be purchased for about $600. That said for guys needing a smaller one, they make these as small as 12" units and those go for around $250. Just looking out for ya.
Appreciate the honest review. I think we have all bought tools with lots of anticipation and excitement only to later be disapointed.
+🔥Ramsey Customs - turbocobra I agree
We have a mixed bag of brand names in our shop.
They range from Baileigh, Pexto, Tennsmith, Di-Acro, Woodward, Edwards, Van Sant/Trick-Tools, Swag, Roper, Whitney, Roper/Whitney and JD2.
Most of these are not entry level units, some are relatively expensive and some are what I consider lower end.
However, we have very few issues with them, some have been in service quite a few years and are used extensively on a regular basis.
When asked about what to buy, I usually reply, buy what you will use and get the best quality/duty that you can comfortably afford.
+patw52pb1 I would agree with that.
Your candor is much appreciated. Had been eyeing up one of these machines, but after watching this vid I think a Beverly shear ($150) and a small box and pan brake ($350) would a better choice for my shop.
Problem is I found once you get that tool its only the start. You need allot more to complement it. Shrinker stretcher , planishing hammer, English wheel and a Nice water cooled tig welder that has a very nice low end to join all this metal working together.
for sure!
sounds like a good problem to have. I'd have to buy them 1 at a time, but Id have plenty of practice time in between purchases
Amazing cutter
I’ve got a slip roll. I’m continuously folding 1/2” bends with it. Ideally, I’d love to have a ‘baking plate’ that’s fixed behind the bending tool (excuse my lack of technical terms)
I’ve seen slip rolls with these in place. Maybe they’re a custom piece ? I’ve tried it myself but can’t seem to find a piece that back plate can hold in place. Lol I’m writing these realizing it prob make no sense and I need to do a video. 🤣
Thank you for your review
I try to maximize each dollar and square foot of shop space when buying tools. I really appreciate you being honest about your opinion of the performance of these 3 in 1 tools. I think I might find a way to get the individual tools in better quality. Buy once, right? Thanks man.
It is Friday 2021 and I just bought a Porsche 914 barn find so I am checking out the tools I am going to need.
Your right FOOL I need that tool!
+Blake's Garage lol
nice one duuuude
Yep I agree they are only good for small pieces I had one and sold it and got a proper brake and sheer. Try and sheer a piece of 30 inch 20 gauge and you will see what happens. I also found with mine that I had to always gap the sheer depending temperature if it was hot it would bind and if it was cold it would chew the piece that was on the sheer the rollers and brake where ok.
Dave
+David Cashin agree...thanks
I appreciate the no BS approach, great video.
+Tim datoolman Thanks
There's almost 2 minutes of BS approach before he starts.😂
Came here to get an idea of what this tool can do as I found a used one on fb marketplace. Really appreciate the feedback and opinion, great content and will be subscribing!
I just bought one from Harbor freight for $450+ tax it's awesome and small and does not take up that much room meant for exactly what I need it for.
Dude you got good taste in cars, the shop truck and Grey goose look so good next to each other.
+draperb1 lol...thanks
Excellent. Agree 100%.
THANKS FOR ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO, I WAS LOOKING TO BUY ONE FOR MY SHOP BUT YOUR RIGHT BUY A BRAKE AND A SLIP ROLL SEPERATLEY FOR A NICER JOB
I always say combo tool do everything ok but noting great. Great video keep them coming
I would agree
Appreciate the honesty! THE ONLY WAY TO TELL IT! Keep on a trucking and a rockin!
+Earl Cousins thanks
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nice work! the this tool section is really good and I send my sons to your channel for reference so I hope you continue to add to the section. There's new gear coming out all the time and nice to get a good info. so not to waste time and money.
You were pondering on ideas for shows...
How about some information on setting up a home shop properly ? lighting, tool storage, work benches,large tool location, safety thoughts (don't go to far), how and where to store chemicals, power outlets/breakers, air outlet,tool storage, ventilation..flooring,work bench ,climate control. smoke detectors, room for expansion for large projects,on and on,Theres just a hundred things to consider. Everybody sets up their shop differently, and for dffierant types of work and reasons I would be interested in your thoughts on that.
My grandfather was a boat builder and going to his shop was the best thing on the planet. Small shop but everything in its place(easier to heat/cool). I'm pretty sure I spent more time in the shop then in the house. He put the wood stove and a one exterior wall on wheels so you can roll large projects out of the building. Even had a bunkhouse on the side...you didn't really ever need to leave except for re-supply,, ahhh good times !
+Peter Parsons great idea...thanks.
I am probably not a very good person to explain shop layout. Mine is still not right
Hi, I know this machine is only rated to 1mm steel and 1.5mm thick aluminum but if you push it to its limit will it fold 3mm aluminum?
I know it's not recommended but with more force will it fold it?
So what exactly does a bigger brake and shear do better? I'm looking at getting one of these, but I'd prefer to buy the better one if this is shit, b
here is a tool suggestion i spot weld cutter if you didn't do one yet I bought one two weeks ago and it's one of the better tools i have bought
+Fred Sitzenstock good idea
The Fab Forums
it beats thell outof using an arir chisel to rip the sheet metal off
Baileigh industrial has a HUGE range of tools, and there cost spread is real fair. but anything they make is worth its $ . I plan to buy all my tools from them when I build my shop . there benders and cold saws are super impressive and stout . never let me down in the shops ive worked in that use there gear .
+twistymcslide2 Yeah I like Baileigh stuff and recommended it before on this channel.
Great video as always!
+In The Kitchen With Matt thanks man
+The Fab Forums No problem!
Love the honesty!!
+Bill Parsons thanks...got be real
I bought mine at harbor freight a few years ago. I think 450. It works like you say,.. okay.
excelente herramienta. saludos.
These are nice but they require ALOT of tinkering to get them to work smoothly... as far as the break... Unless your a 350lb guy, putting a bend in 30 inches of 16ga is near impossible... I added a foot pedal to mine like alot of guys are doing....
Thanks, know it only does 90 degree angles is really helpful.
no problem
I would like that 30" but it states only 22ga max :/
Starts at 1:51
I need a box brake with at least 2" depth for boxes. Will this brake work?
yeah it would have the reach...but depending on the material, it may not be able to bend it.
The Fab Forums Thanks! I ended up buying a 24” box and pan brake so I could bend 16 gauge. The one I chose won’t allow a 2” box depth, but I think I have a workaround for that.
Great informative review!
+Andeep Dhanjal Thanks
I want to be honest too! finish that gray goose I want to see it hit the track!!! its not good to put stuff in the back burner you'll lose interest & how come I never see you use that tool u know the sweat band marker holder? lol
+Hector Castro I have used it in several videos
Did you already do a video on your bead roller?
+Joe hardwick I have, it was episode 6
curious on a slip roll vs an english wheel vs a planshing hammer machine why choose on vs the other? Still trying to figure this one out.
a slip roll will only roll the material...an english wheel or planisher can smooth and shape the material by flattening or stretching small areas
@@Thefabforums ok so then whats the difference in using a planshing hammer machine vs english wheel vs a stretcher/shrinker machine? Thanks for clarity on the slip roll so its more just to form cylinder shapes , cone shapes , or u- like shapes /partial cone or cylinder shapes.
@@natefidalgo7625 main difference is the shrinker stretchers only stretch in one direction. The planisher and English wheel stretches in all directions at the same time. You also get more reach with a wheel or planisher
@@Thefabforums cool i just was getting at the distinction of when to uses an english wheel vs when to uses a planishing machine like when you want one machine over the other you already cleared up the slip roll question for me.
@@Thefabforums ok so if you have a planisher and english wheel say then is there a point to getting a stretcher/shrinker tool or can you do everything on the english wheel and planisher machines...Basically is there a major benefit to have them once you have an english wheel and planisher.
Thanks for your candor.......
no problem
nice little tool....I have one here
yeah it comes in handy sometimes
nice tool for a weekend fabricator
+Harry Powers I agree
does 30 inches mean that it will sheer 30'' , bend 30'', and roll 30''? I ask because I want one for building body work on bikes when my english wheel and shaping bags can't give me the right shape
Also if it say's for example it can handle 22 gauge mild steel does that mean that it can handle thicker aluminum?
+SuperChief83 it can handle close to 30" of 22 gauge material. Thicker if its aluminum or not as wide
So just go up in thickness and size to find what it can handle? Also does the slip roll have the hardening effect of an english wheel because 20-22 gauge aluminum is pretty flimsy. Also thanks for the reply cheers
+SuperChief83 yeah anytime you add dimension it adds stiffness.
Thanks a lot for the info
Can this tool shear brake 2-3mm thickness of alu plate?
really depends on the width
@@Thefabforums Thanks for the reply man. just bought one today and bring it back. But when I try to brake it to 90 degree of the 2mm of thickness 6061 aluminum it just break.... maybe I should try softer like 5052?
I bought a used one and the shear isn’t working .. would I have to adjust it?
+Dat Tepo not sure...What's it doing
The Fab Forums it’s not cutting the metal it just bends it into a 90 .. from looking at your videos I’m sure that’s not what it’s suppose to do
thanks for being honest. :D cool vid.
no problem
I work in a shop and I just bring stuff I need sheared and broke to work do I don't have to buy one xD
cool
2-minute intro? Come on.
not sure what your point is?
My point is the intro is waaaaay too long. You may think it's a cool intro but chances are most people aren't interested.
Hey man do a Video on your band saw setup.
+roamy37748 I have. Its probably a ton of videos back though
Ok man new subscriber here so I'll go back and look
Wondering how many didn't make it threw the 1:00 minute intro to see what is not a bad review video....
3.6 %
So, bigger schop ? 😊😊
+Alexandre Garcia one day
im a fool cuz i dont have that tool fool hit that like guys keep it up bro
+Electrical_Dynamo thanks
Mallennials: does it have Wi-Fi?
Me: why yes it does, put your fingers under there and turn the lever to get Wi-Fi.
keep the same rule . thank u so much
+lovely Onyx Thanks
You can ship it to me then
👍👍👍
only works good with aluminium.
+Todd Fritsche I use it with steel all the time. It was actually sheet metal used in the video....its just not good for heavy gauge stuff
I have the red one from Harbor freight and it only cuts aluminum good, if it's set properly.
First again? Fuck yeah!
+Jthorr lol
+The Fab Forums Loving the vids man been watching for sometime now, just finally subbed!
+Jthorr awesome...thanks for watching
What a joke of a review.
Why does it not do anything well? What does it not do well? Do you even know?
Absolutely useless...
I've got one.
Its a total crap.
Rollers got bent.
Bender never bends even on full lenght
In the shear base welds snapped and its useless.
Never used it with anything thicker than 1mm stainless.
Waste of money
+marmooster Lol...that sucks. Stainless is some tough stuff
holy shit. 1mm of stainless is probably the same thickness as 24gauge but in stainless its a lot tougher and heavier. probably need 14 gauge brake for that stuff.
@@jesusborrego3270 It also depends on which stainless alloy
was ein Gesabbel ohne Inhalt.
Stop trying to be funny... lol ain't workin