I've been running the Auto Breech Lock Pro (ABLP) for about 2 years now on pistol cartridges. When you've got a toddler running around, time is as precious as it gets and this thing gets it done. I normally used the Lee Classic Turret Press as my old reliable, but the ABLP is as reliable and easy to set up as the Turret Press. Price is fantastic, reliability is as solid as the Turret Press and you can load safely 6 rounds a minute and like I said with a toddler each minute is a blessing. 5 minutes before I go to work = 30 rounds, 10 minutes = a day at the range.
I’ve used my Pro 4000 for 9mm for awhile now and am satisfied with it. For the price you can’t beat it, although you have to be patient, follow the instructions and watch the Lee videos on assembly. It can be finicky and requires your full attention and checking adjustments periodically. Lee provides some great support so use them when necessary. I managed to install a bullet feeder after some struggles so it’s almost a real “Progressive Reloader” just got to figure how to feed the primers automatically. Keep up the good work and thanks for the videos.👍
@@matthewbryars4176 Hi Matthew, no primers I’ve just about run out😬but when I had plenty I just had to sync that operation into my rhythm. Have you had any luck with finding reloading components?
I just got my Pro 4000 as a dedicated .38 Special progressive press for loading cowboy action shooting rounds. I have the case collator which isn't the best but it works. I also have the bullet feed system. After loading 1000s of rounds on a Lee Challenger single stage press, I'm quite pleased to have a progressive press. I've never used a turret press or any other progressive press so I can't compare it to anything else. However, you can't beat the price. Additionally, I've used Lee products for years without a single issue with anything they produce so wasn't' concerned with quality. Before I purchase anything, I do a ton of research, read reviews, and watch UA-cam videos. The Lee Pro 4000 just makes the most sense. Because to me the most important factors are 1) does it work as advertised and 2) is it a good value? Even though money is no issue, I just can't see spending a boat load of money when I can buy something that I know is going to work.
This is the review I've been looking for my just purchased Lee 90900. I won't be loading 6.5 Grendel, but all my pistol cartridges along with 5.56 and 30.06. My 50BMG will be loaded on my dedicated Lee 50BMG single stage Breech Lock press. Thank You again Gavin for posting these very helpful and very informative videos.
I have been using the ABLP since it came out - It was an easy press to set up and use - I however do all my brass prep off press including priming. So I have stage 1 powder - stage 2 bullet feeder - stage 3 bullet seating - stage 4 factory crimp die. I also use a automatic case feeder - now the fun part is I have a camera mounted so I can see it the case to see my powder level - so all I have to do is pull the handle and look at the powder level in the case.
I have one that i use mainly for 38 special. One problem I had was my shell plate was to tight for the primer tool so it binds on its way out. Ground out the bottom part of each pocket so it works. The only great thing I can say about the primer system is that I get a lot of exercise picking up primer from the floor! The press it self works fine, but my next press will be a 750xl! Love your videos! I'm not sure I would be into reloading if i didn't watch your channel!
I'm my opinion, the Safety Prime has always been the part of Lee presses that they haven't managed to improve much over the years, it's always been the weakest link per se. I've always found batch priming brass with a hand primer or otherwise and just feed in pre-primed cases makes this kinda progressive loading way faster.
Any of your Grendel vids get a thumbs up from me! I love getting over to E. WA from the west side to stretch the legs on both my 24" Radical upper build and my 12" Faxon bbl pistol build. I'm getting set up to start loading for them on my Loadmaster; got shell plate and dies for Christmas. Would love to go shooting with you sometime! Thanks for the great content and high quality production value!
well thanks for showing us the Lee primer set up . my thoughts are it would be easer to prime by hand . so a Dillon 1100 is the one I'll going for. not sure if i will get a bullet feed or not just yet I dont load that many a year but I would like to do it in 1 batch.
I don’t know anything about reloading but I find these videos really interesting. Hopefully I’ll be out of this shoebox someday and will have room to do some reloading of my own
Great video, well done Gavin. I've owned a Lee Auto Breech Lock Pro since soon after it was introduced. With the Safety Prime borrowed from my Lee Classic Turret Press and the brass feeder and Auto Drum powder measure borrowed from my Load Master, you could say I have a Pro 4000. I run some .380 and 9mm on it but, that is about all. It seems too small for my rifle calibers. I really like the Load Master except for its priming faults, so my overall go-to is the Lee Classic Turret press.
I’d like to see this press with some longer cases. I’ve heard you have to remove the auto change rod and it becomes a single stage. Say .308, 300 WM, 6.5 Creed, 30-06. I’d try it on mine but I’m still waiting to get it...
Everything up to .308 will run progressive I ran a lot of 6.5 Creedmoore on mine. You do have to remove the advance rod for longer cases it will start to rotate before the bullet comes completely out of the die and just turn it by hand after it clears and before it starts onto the guide rod. But all my larger magnum stuff I still load on my old trusty RCBS Rock Chucker as I have done for years! I just recently purchased a 6000 pro which is capable of running the large magnums progressively! But will still probably run my magnums on the single stage as I don't run hundreds of them at a time
Another great video. When will you do a video on the LEE APP press. That's a little gizmo of a creation by Lee that saves a tons of time prepping brass. PLEASE!!!
Bought mine a few months ago, load 45 colt/38spl/357mag with bullet feed, best bang for your buck! I would like to see Lee offer more shell plate options to include most of the small and standard length rifle cases to make this press even more versatile (45-70 too). Case feed and auto powder measure works very well, you will likley get some ball/spherical type powder leakage through the drum. I have two drums, one leaks slightly the other dose not.
The only thing I would change is the powder throw to my Lee Pro disc. I use H335 30.9 grains and it is reliable for my Grendel load data on a Barnes 100 grain TTSX.
Have you done any testing of the 6.5 Grendel using a AR-15 with 24" barrel? I'm building an AR in that configuration, and am wondering about type of powder and charge.
IMO you should be measuring/trimming bottleneck cartridge brass after sizing because cases too long can increase pressures but maybe I’m missing something and that can’t happen if using a progressive.
Im looking at the press and the Hornady AP. I know the Hornady gives you the ability to put in a bullet feed as well as a case feeder. Will this press allow you to use a third parties bullet feeder to make it a little more user-friendly. I’m not exactly sure if the safety prime system is all of that. But also, yet again I don’t own one of these presses at all so I’m speaking from zero Experience.
How accurate is the powder charge? I'm thinking about buying this unit to reload 44 magnum using H110 powder. From everything I've read and watched, the gr weight with that powder really needs to be spot on or it can cause over pressure.
I was told by a dealer that the 4000 is only for pistol and .223 cartridges but you mentiin using it for rifle. Was the dealer wrong and rifle ammo can be reloaded on the 4000?
I've been having trouble finding a case plate for 6.5prc... do they have one available? Or is there one that's close that could be modified or something?
good afternoon I would like to start reloading 9mm and .223 but there are so many brands and I don't know which one to buy! Can you recommend any reload press? Thank you!
Gavin, as a reloader that has been reloading with a single stage press, I am looking to get into the AP press. Do you think it is easier to set one up for pistol ammo or rifle ammo
which do you prefer the loadmaster or pro 4000? I have loadmaster and really like it, but dont use the auto case feeder, tried the auto bullet feeder with 38 wadcutters me and the bullet feeder didn't get along real well. auto rotate and primer feeder work great. Also upgraded to the auto drum powder measure big improvement.
For some reason mine is very hard to push up or down when i am on depriming/resizing, it just doesn't want to go up or down, i did adjust so many times, and lube the case really good, it just didn't help much, i did a couple ammo anyway just to test out but it won't even fit in my ar15 chamber. Seems like the resizing dies made it worse than before resizing. What do you think the problem?
I promised Lee I was done with buying another Lee press. I have 2 loadmasters, and 2 single stages. One of my singles messed up and the lifetime warranty was no good because they redesigned it. So I bit the dust with it. PS: my load masters are less dependable than a second hand yugo. They make good dies and case trimmers, but as far as their progressive press it’s surprising they can X-ray in business. My next press will be blue or green.
What is the benefit of the 4th position? ie, the Pro 1000 vs Pro 4000. That is a core difference. I plan to reload both 9mm and .223, but, can't see the benefit of the 4th position. Do you see other benefits on the Pro 4000? Also, I see the Pro 1000 you can swap out the die turret to another set very easily, but the Pro 4000 looks to not have that feature.
The powder measure can have the entire 1# powder attached to it instead of the small clear plastic bottle. This press is a very strong competitor to the Dillon 550. Same volume per hour, 4 stations, and so simple a cave man can use it. You can adjust the length of the lever arm so your shoulder is not in such an awkward canted position like in the video. The priming system is perfectly adequate for 3-350 rounds per hour. This is what a Dillon 550 realistically puts out. It is also simple.
Went through my primer stash today and found 4 bricks of SR primers so thinking about setting up a dedicated 223 press. Has anyone used the pro 4000 for 223 or 5.56 loads and tested in an accurate semiauto to see how they run? Does Lee warn against any brand of primer on this press?
You can run 223 on this well I run 223 224 Valkyrie 6.5 grendel 6.5 Creedmoore and 350 legend on mine the only 2 suggestions I have is run your sizing die only so you can size and trim then hand prime unless you are ok with dropping 1-2 primers out of 10 on the floor then set it up with powder bullet seater and factory crimp die and run it progressive that way! I have recently purchased the Lee 6000 pro for my rifle and keep my 4000 set up for pistol. The 4000 will run anything up to a .308 in overall coal
Trouble with the powder measure just pours out every where when I put casing up to put powder in nothing goes in if anyone knows how to fix this please let me know
My press has always had a shell plate indexing issue since I opened the package. I have to manually index the press, which sucks... Still faster than single stage. Just annoying poor people problems.
Your reviews and videos are very good. You might put a curtain behind you to make it easier to see the press with some contrast rather than blending into the shop equipment
The pro 4000 is trash. Will not index reliably. Will not feed cases reliably, Primer feed system is a cheap piece of $h1t Don't buy one , you'll be very disappointed. I'm an experienced reloader with 43 years of loading behind me. I own a lot of equipment and Speaking from experience, I can tell you that Lee Progressive Machines are Crap. Save the extra money and buy yourself a Dillon 550B , 550C, Square Deal B, or an XL650/750 or an RL Super 1050 . After one day of loading, you will be glad you bought a Dillon. If you buy the Lee, I guarantee you the you WILL get Buyer's Remorse.
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I've been running the Auto Breech Lock Pro (ABLP) for about 2 years now on pistol cartridges. When you've got a toddler running around, time is as precious as it gets and this thing gets it done. I normally used the Lee Classic Turret Press as my old reliable, but the ABLP is as reliable and easy to set up as the Turret Press. Price is fantastic, reliability is as solid as the Turret Press and you can load safely 6 rounds a minute and like I said with a toddler each minute is a blessing. 5 minutes before I go to work = 30 rounds, 10 minutes = a day at the range.
I’ve used my Pro 4000 for 9mm for awhile now and am satisfied with it. For the price you can’t beat it, although you have to be patient, follow the instructions and watch the Lee videos on assembly. It can be finicky and requires your full attention and checking adjustments periodically. Lee provides some great support so use them when necessary. I managed to install a bullet feeder after some struggles so it’s almost a real “Progressive Reloader” just got to figure how to feed the primers automatically. Keep up the good work and thanks for the videos.👍
Any luck with the primer feeding?
@@matthewbryars4176
Hi Matthew, no primers I’ve just about run out😬but when I had plenty I just had to sync that operation into my rhythm. Have you had any luck with finding reloading components?
I just got my Pro 4000 as a dedicated .38 Special progressive press for loading cowboy action shooting rounds. I have the case collator which isn't the best but it works. I also have the bullet feed system. After loading 1000s of rounds on a Lee Challenger single stage press, I'm quite pleased to have a progressive press. I've never used a turret press or any other progressive press so I can't compare it to anything else. However, you can't beat the price. Additionally, I've used Lee products for years without a single issue with anything they produce so wasn't' concerned with quality. Before I purchase anything, I do a ton of research, read reviews, and watch UA-cam videos. The Lee Pro 4000 just makes the most sense. Because to me the most important factors are 1) does it work as advertised and 2) is it a good value? Even though money is no issue, I just can't see spending a boat load of money when I can buy something that I know is going to work.
This is the review I've been looking for my just purchased Lee 90900. I won't be loading 6.5 Grendel, but all my pistol cartridges along with 5.56 and 30.06. My 50BMG will be loaded on my dedicated Lee 50BMG single stage Breech Lock press. Thank You again Gavin for posting these very helpful and very informative videos.
Just recently found your channel. So far I've heard no profanity. Thank goodness! Good information. Thank you!
I have been using the ABLP since it came out - It was an easy press to set up and use - I however do all my brass prep off press including priming. So I have stage 1 powder - stage 2 bullet feeder - stage 3 bullet seating - stage 4 factory crimp die. I also use a automatic case feeder - now the fun part is I have a camera mounted so I can see it the case to see my powder level - so all I have to do is pull the handle and look at the powder level in the case.
I have just got mine and started with a 9mm kit. Your videos has been really useful to me as a newbie in reloading. Thank you.
I have one that i use mainly for 38 special. One problem I had was my shell plate was to tight for the primer tool so it binds on its way out. Ground out the bottom part of each pocket so it works.
The only great thing I can say about the primer system is that I get a lot of exercise picking up primer from the floor!
The press it self works fine, but my next press will be a 750xl!
Love your videos! I'm not sure I would be into reloading if i didn't watch your channel!
When will you be doing the progressive reloader shoot out? Rough estimate would be lovely! Thanks for the great info mate
Same question here.. been watching with great anticipation for the progressive shootout.
I'm my opinion, the Safety Prime has always been the part of Lee presses that they haven't managed to improve much over the years, it's always been the weakest link per se. I've always found batch priming brass with a hand primer or otherwise and just feed in pre-primed cases makes this kinda progressive loading way faster.
Any of your Grendel vids get a thumbs up from me! I love getting over to E. WA from the west side to stretch the legs on both my 24" Radical upper build and my 12" Faxon bbl pistol build. I'm getting set up to start loading for them on my Loadmaster; got shell plate and dies for Christmas.
Would love to go shooting with you sometime! Thanks for the great content and high quality production value!
well thanks for showing us the Lee primer set up . my thoughts are it would be easer to prime by hand . so a Dillon 1100 is the one I'll going for. not sure if i will get a bullet feed or not just yet I dont load that many a year but I would like to do it in 1 batch.
I don’t know anything about reloading but I find these videos really interesting. Hopefully I’ll be out of this shoebox someday and will have room to do some reloading of my own
I like it! It’s to bad primers are extinct in the couer d alene, Spokane area...
I love it I have one to load 9mm and 7.62×54 it works great I even put a bullet feeder on it and it works great to.
Hopefully mine will be in by this weekend
Great video, well done Gavin. I've owned a Lee Auto Breech Lock Pro since soon after it was introduced. With the Safety Prime borrowed from my Lee Classic Turret Press and the brass feeder and Auto Drum powder measure borrowed from my Load Master, you could say I have a Pro 4000. I run some .380 and 9mm on it but, that is about all. It seems too small for my rifle calibers. I really like the Load Master except for its priming faults, so my overall go-to is the Lee Classic Turret press.
Quick question... Since you have station 4 open can you move bullet seat/crimp die to station four and add a bullet feeder to station three?
I love mine. For the money a great press. great review.
The manual priming is quite a turn off.
Yeah, it's all about price points.
I’d like to see this press with some longer cases. I’ve heard you have to remove the auto change rod and it becomes a single stage. Say .308, 300 WM, 6.5 Creed, 30-06. I’d try it on mine but I’m still waiting to get it...
Everything up to .308 will run progressive I ran a lot of 6.5 Creedmoore on mine. You do have to remove the advance rod for longer cases it will start to rotate before the bullet comes completely out of the die and just turn it by hand after it clears and before it starts onto the guide rod. But all my larger magnum stuff I still load on my old trusty RCBS Rock Chucker as I have done for years! I just recently purchased a 6000 pro which is capable of running the large magnums progressively! But will still probably run my magnums on the single stage as I don't run hundreds of them at a time
Another great video. When will you do a video on the LEE APP press. That's a little gizmo of a creation by Lee that saves a tons of time prepping brass. PLEASE!!!
Have you done a video on installing the bullet feeder on this press
Bought mine a few months ago, load 45 colt/38spl/357mag with bullet feed, best bang for your buck! I would like to see Lee offer more shell plate options to include most of the small and standard length rifle cases to make this press even more versatile (45-70 too).
Case feed and auto powder measure works very well, you will likley get some ball/spherical type powder leakage through the drum. I have two drums, one leaks slightly the other dose not.
Is it just me or is this so much fun thanks 👍
The only thing I would change is the powder throw to my Lee Pro disc. I use H335 30.9 grains and it is reliable for my Grendel load data on a Barnes 100 grain TTSX.
LEE PRESISION for the money is great America Made equipment.
I really enjoy mine. Load 9mm and 5.56 with it. Only downside is the priming system.
Have you done any testing of the 6.5 Grendel using a AR-15 with 24" barrel? I'm building an AR in that configuration, and am wondering about type of powder and charge.
Great videos, but where the heck are you finding components to load with?? Share the luv brother !😁
I've been through *multiple* shortages- I have maintained my stock over the years as needed.
My brother....In my opinion you need a better background to appreciate the machine , just my opinion !!
Good content brother !!
awsome press
IMO you should be measuring/trimming bottleneck cartridge brass after sizing because cases too long can increase pressures but maybe I’m missing something and that can’t happen if using a progressive.
Im looking at the press and the Hornady AP. I know the Hornady gives you the ability to put in a bullet feed as well as a case feeder. Will this press allow you to use a third parties bullet feeder to make it a little more user-friendly. I’m not exactly sure if the safety prime system is all of that. But also, yet again I don’t own one of these presses at all so I’m speaking from zero Experience.
How accurate is the powder charge? I'm thinking about buying this unit to reload 44 magnum using H110 powder. From everything I've read and watched, the gr weight with that powder really needs to be spot on or it can cause over pressure.
I was told by a dealer that the 4000 is only for pistol and .223 cartridges but you mentiin using it for rifle. Was the dealer wrong and rifle ammo can be reloaded on the 4000?
What about trimming the case after sizing?
Gavin thanks for posting this I have the kit how do you think it would last loading 308 Winchester
Gavin have you done a video on the dillon 650xl for rifle cartridges?
Yes! Check out my older videos...
Where are you getting your stock from. I still can’t find anything bullets, primers, brass, and power. We’re you bulked up ahead of time?
I've been having trouble finding a case plate for 6.5prc... do they have one available? Or is there one that's close that could be modified or something?
What about case trimming after sizing?
@gav I am looking to run 6 5X55 through the loadmaster once i find the load i like. Have you reloaded big rifle round through the loadmaster?
good afternoon I would like to start reloading 9mm and .223 but there are so many brands and I don't know which one to buy! Can you recommend any reload press? Thank you!
Gavin, as a reloader that has been reloading with a single stage press, I am looking to get into the AP press. Do you think it is easier to set one up for pistol ammo or rifle ammo
And 223 is good to go as well
Thanks for the info. How do you think this compares to lee's load master ?
which do you prefer the loadmaster or pro 4000? I have loadmaster and really like it, but dont use the auto case feeder, tried the auto bullet feeder with 38 wadcutters me and the bullet feeder didn't get along real well. auto rotate and primer feeder work great. Also upgraded to the auto drum powder measure big improvement.
I had the loadmaster and returned it. I like the 4000 better. Better priming system.
Save yourself a lot of frustration and skip the LoadMaster. It requires way to much tinkering to keep it running.
I'd like to get into reloading with this Lee Pro 4K but it won't happen any time soon. Everything is sold out!
I think I'm replacing my loadmaster!
Would you just remove the de-primer/re-sizer die if you bought your brass pre-primed and ready to go?
Yes!
For some reason mine is very hard to push up or down when i am on depriming/resizing, it just doesn't want to go up or down, i did adjust so many times, and lube the case really good, it just didn't help much, i did a couple ammo anyway just to test out but it won't even fit in my ar15 chamber. Seems like the resizing dies made it worse than before resizing. What do you think the problem?
Lee pro 6000 review?
Would love to get one but why bother. I can't find components to load on it. Really sucks
FOR THE PRICE IT IS ONE OF THE BEST PROGRESSIVE OUT THERE.
Estimate on price per round?
I promised Lee I was done with buying another Lee press. I have 2 loadmasters, and 2 single stages. One of my singles messed up and the lifetime warranty was no good because they redesigned it. So I bit the dust with it. PS: my load masters are less dependable than a second hand yugo. They make good dies and case trimmers, but as far as their progressive press it’s surprising they can X-ray in business. My next press will be blue or green.
Blue is good. I own 2. Did you contact Lee? I would think they would upgrade you with the "lifetime warranty" if it cannot be fixed.
@@jawsmod yes and they would give a discount if I bought another Lee press.
The powder storage looks tiny.
Hi, can u show 340 mag and 338-378 wby mag , thanks
What is the benefit of the 4th position? ie, the Pro 1000 vs Pro 4000. That is a core difference. I plan to reload both 9mm and .223, but, can't see the benefit of the 4th position. Do you see other benefits on the Pro 4000? Also, I see the Pro 1000 you can swap out the die turret to another set very easily, but the Pro 4000 looks to not have that feature.
Factory crimp die.
The powder measure can have the entire 1# powder attached to it instead of the small clear plastic bottle.
This press is a very strong competitor to the Dillon 550. Same volume per hour, 4 stations, and so simple a cave man can use it.
You can adjust the length of the lever arm so your shoulder is not in such an awkward canted position like in the video.
The priming system is perfectly adequate for 3-350 rounds per hour. This is what a Dillon 550 realistically puts out. It is also simple.
I have both. It's not a Dillon 550, but it will get the job done.
Went through my primer stash today and found 4 bricks of SR primers so thinking about setting up a dedicated 223 press. Has anyone used the pro 4000 for 223 or 5.56 loads and tested in an accurate semiauto to see how they run? Does Lee warn against any brand of primer on this press?
You can run 223 on this well I run 223 224 Valkyrie 6.5 grendel 6.5 Creedmoore and 350 legend on mine the only 2 suggestions I have is run your sizing die only so you can size and trim then hand prime unless you are ok with dropping 1-2 primers out of 10 on the floor then set it up with powder bullet seater and factory crimp die and run it progressive that way! I have recently purchased the Lee 6000 pro for my rifle and keep my 4000 set up for pistol. The 4000 will run anything up to a .308 in overall coal
Trouble with the powder measure just pours out every where when I put casing up to put powder in nothing goes in if anyone knows how to fix this please let me know
Seems like a inexpensive way to get into progressive but the primer feed and seating is hinky.
👍👍
So those progress rounds have coolaid hair and protest someone's rights ?
My press has always had a shell plate indexing issue since I opened the package. I have to manually index the press, which sucks... Still faster than single stage. Just annoying poor people problems.
I got it for my son
Do you trim cases before or after resizing them
After. They stretch during sizing
The woe that is living in a 300 sq foot studio with no room for a true press.
???
Your reviews and videos are very good. You might put a curtain behind you to make it easier to see the press with some contrast rather than blending into the shop equipment
I'm okay with Load-Master being ignored, but more curious why everyone does...
LOTS of Loadmaster videos on this channel
My guess is you did 6.5 Grendel because you could not get the case feeder to work with 223 cases. You are sneaky! If not, let's see a video of 223.
no primers, no powder, no bullets... maybe next year
No stock of any press in the whole country... Funny
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This is not much of an automated process. Better off hand loading it.
2:32 I like that😍💋 💝💖❤️
The pro 4000 is trash.
Will not index reliably.
Will not feed cases reliably,
Primer feed system is a cheap piece of $h1t
Don't buy one , you'll be very disappointed.
I'm an experienced reloader with 43 years of loading behind me.
I own a lot of equipment and Speaking from experience, I can tell you that Lee Progressive Machines are Crap.
Save the extra money and buy yourself a Dillon 550B ,
550C, Square Deal B, or an
XL650/750 or an
RL Super 1050 .
After one day of loading, you will be glad you bought a Dillon.
If you buy the Lee, I guarantee you the you WILL get Buyer's Remorse.
Need lovely 😍💋 💝💖❤️
Lee makes crap products