I smiled all over it aswell. Finally after 20 years it is now viable. I tried it in D2 LoD and eventually swapped to kicksin instead because it is too much of a dmg loss charging all over again, and have a burst dmg like every 5 to 8 seconds. A Procsin was or is already better than LoD MA Assa. Also a minus of charging over and over again is the squishiness of assa herself. Before you have all your charges up, you probably were 80% or even more just fresh meat.
I really wanted to make a Hell-viable Dual Claw Assassin some day so this is good news. When I read about the runewords I didn't suspect they'd let those 50% chances on Mosaics stack additively, but here we are. I was sure they'd make it 2 x 50% check.
Interesting thing is that you don't really need high end gear like Enigma. You can use Dragon Flight to teleport around for the most part, and it keeps refreshing your charges as well. For bosses/ubers I suspect Tiger Strike will be instant kill (8 kicks with 3rd charge of tiger strike lvl 40+ along with some crushing blow are hundreds of thousands of dmg). I suspect the charge management, especially for phoenix strike, will be a pain, especially if you overcharge.
i just used 2x mosaic on a cheated level 99 char and cleared p5 baalrun yes its difficult bc u are onehit but from a damage perspective its absolut crazy, means if u have 2x mosaic u can do EVERYTHING
I was thinking about dragon tail during this - it double dips damage, multipliers, giving all the bonus ED to the phys, then converting it to the increased fire, then buffing the fire. Having high level permanent 3 charge tiger strike on a dragon tail with 1000% bonus fire damage - that would be some damage.
Wow, that sounds like a very impressive and fun build. You seem to have a lot of game knowledge and experience with the assassin class. I admire your creativity and strategy for using different skills and gear to optimize your damage and mobility. I’m curious to learn more from you. Thanks for sharing your insights and tips.👍
Literally chillin at work listening to this, I took my sunglasses off and immediately after llama says “put your sunglasses on you’re gonna need them” lmao
Love the MA-sin, but I kind of wish that they put the new mechanic on the class rather than on a specific runeword because now this is getting closer to diablo 3 where the builds and items are dictating each other. If they would've added it to claw mastery, going up to 50% at a certain level, you could use 1 mosaic and another weapon of choice, now it's just: "playing MA? yepyep, double mosaic or play another build".
don't forget cobra strike can also be stacked, meaning you're getting an insane amount of life and mana leech. the build is just busted. Im ok with it because the usual builds are as stale as can be.
I kinda saw this coming after that patch announcement. But it is nice to see it played out. But damn, that is both beautiful and disgusting at the same time. Martial arts assassins needed love but these claws are the only items that can let them shine.
True. As fun as this item would be, brand new mechanics brought into the game I feel it's changing d2. I'm all for a variety of existing skills and auras on items as well as MA assassin skill improvements. This item basically removes the whole charge and release concept of the assassin.
You can essentially guarantee they will nerf this. They will likely reduce mosaic to 45%, so that you cannot have 100% charge not consumed uptime. If they dont change the runeword, they will have to change the damage scaling or stacking of the charges to remove previous charges
Probably but maybe they won't. They have let Javzon and Hammerdin be stupid OP for 20 years, maybe they will let us have some fun with something new for a while before clobbering it. Its not like end game D2 is difficult for any S tier build anyway.
I think this new build is really fun! i have been waiting ages for Assa to viable finally now it is. Ill keep as is for the first season then i would balance to only have one kind of charges if you have 2 Mosaic ( only if 2 ) otherwise u can stack all charges
Looks great to me as a trapsin user and a MAsin wanna play user now i can finally play the reason i first chose her and last timed i used MAsin but now we can enjoy this class as intended
It's nice that the martial arts assassin has more viability pvm. I'd rather them let her own this patch and nerf next patch like the cold sorc and her reign. I'm probably just going to start barb and rush hustle and see what builds work well.
Yeah, fully agreed. Could you imagine, each character could have a season to reign over. This is the season of the assassin. Maybe next season nerf her and give necromancer a chance to own, like skeletal mages insane power with ability to auto cast skeletal mage from corpses or something.
I wasn’t going to play this season because it seemed like not enough changed to make it different. After seeing this without a doubt I’m playing the MA sin
check out the new wartheory video addressing the biggest issue with the new sin setups and the missile damage delay flags...also this build is gonna kill gfx cards LOL turn your vfx quality and vfx lighting quality down to get the best experience playing this and also to crash less during travincal or at shenk...
I called this the crashed build because it crash my game so frequently when the skill is activated. On a serious note they need to improve the Battle net on d2r.
Arguing whether it will be nerfed or not is kind of ridiculous. Blizzard has shown they are willing to change the landscape of D2 finally and after all this time they just accidentally created a build that mitigates all enemy resistances, mitigates all incoming damage via 300+ resistances and freezing the entire screen, has 100% uptime with virtually zero maintenance, and only requires a minute to "setup". Yea, I'm sure they'll leave that in game as-is.
I could see them just changing the spenders to only cast once per finishing move cast. So even with six+ kicks it casts just one set of each finisher. That'll also make the other spender moves a more compelling choice potentially rather than just Kick.
does Cobra Strikes adds up after you stacked all the other charges ? I can see my assasin stealing mana and live if I use only Cobra strikes but as soon as I stack all the other charges wont steal anymore ,,, even if I cast Cobra as last ... (It's my first time using the assisn so I must do something wrong ;) )
I love how he's getting petty on a few gcs that are worth like an UM each but he's real nonchalant about the infinity, "he just has infinity", lol. I'd much rather see mid tier build without enigma and infinity. If you're gonna show case an end gear build, you might as well deck her out with gear you know the player is going to have at that point, like all skiller gcs
I wish they put chance to save charge on some synergy instead of the only rune word. Or just remove charges consuming mechanic completely replacing it with timed duration without any renewal possibility. At least it will not look so broken.
They will almost certainly change how Mosaic works so that you can't get the 100% charges are never consumed effect. That's the part that makes this broken and silly.
why would this get nerfed? It's worse than Cold or Lightning Sorc in terms of clearspeed/speed in general and worse than a regular kicksin when it comes to bossing. This build is literally average idk why they would nerf it especially with it beeing a melee build aka it's bad to begin with
They might not nerf it at all. I suspect this may have something to do with D4 and them pumping assassin's. They're spending a lot of time honing this game, when d4 comes out if they release an assassin DLC, they may be incentivized to make Assassin a fan favorite in this game just to plug it in that game. That and they may be looking to buff just plain every class in some way over time, from the scale of it lately it feels like a lot of classes are just getting reworks and buff's in general, especially mid-level items. Mal / Gul is not too expensive for this build, they likely are trying to make the mid-game more satisfying. But we'll see of course. It's definitely the vampire survivors build though, nailed it.
Finally! The day that LOD came out I started with a martial arts assasin and was blown away over how good she was at the low levels, 5 hours later I was lvl 28 and could not beat the ancients for the life of me, went to bed and havn't played martial arts since.
@@a.f.331 For single player, you have to use some other build to get to the point where you can create 2 mosaics. Then you respec into this build. 2 Mals and 2 Guls are basically nothing.
This build doesn't make the skill tree work well, though. It essentially compromises the entire idea of the ebb and flow between charging and discharging, and replaces it with a unique mechanic that is entirely tied to dual wielding one specific item. Not a great way to make the tree work. I do, however, agree that it looks quite fun and it is most likely what I will be trying this ladder.
Maybe there should be a chance to not consume any charges on the Claw Mastery Skill level with an added % not to consume charges on certain/all Claw Weapons or maybe just on the Unique Claw Weapons. Same like the Ress all on a Paladin Shield, a Claw would either have some +skills or a %chance to not consume charges.
@@viciouscrossbow real talk tho ... this build is worse than any sorc build when it comes to clear speed and worse than a regular kicksin when it comes to bossing. I kinda understand that it can do both to a degree but it straight up is not even close to Sorc in it's current state so it will not change the meta. Some people will play it this season because it is new for sure, but it really is not that good
@@yarlehnowz This build isn't as strong as a fully geared javazon though, so if it's 'way too OP' and needs to be nerfed, then I hope they nerf all the other 'way too OP' builds, or it's pretty dumb to just nerf this imo.
Just rolled Mosaic on single player, so I can confirm it works. It seems this time they brought everything related to the new season to single player as well! Which is awesome!!!
Thanks for that confirmation. I have always felt ladder stuff should be available on single player right from the start especially being a single player only player. Theres really no reason not too cause theres nothing to compete against.
Thank christ. it felt so bad having to arbitrarily wait a whole season to get the cool new stuff, just to have to feel the same thing about the next season's stuff when you just want to play single player and not deal with online.
FYI, was watching Ginger Gaming Mentor test Assassin builds with dual Mosaic claws, and the game was freezing when dropping repetitive Meteor charges from Phoenix Strike on Uber Diablo. Not an issue on Hell Players 8, but the extra life of the Uber D-Clone was causing a rediculous amount of meteors to fall and was locking up the game.
Man... I've been playing dual claw Phoenix Strike assassin since the character was first released. I didn't care that she was off-meta, it was just a fun build to play. To see her grow into this absolute avatar of devastation makes me so happy! Hopefully the nerfs won't slam her into oblivion
Wow, you are a true legend of the Phoenix Strike assassin! I respect your loyalty and creativity for sticking with this off-meta build and making it shine. You have mastered the art of unleashing all the elements with your dual claws and kicking your enemies into oblivion. You are an inspiration for all assassin players out there!
Ginger mentor did some pretty extensive testing - NHD really messed with claws of thunder, especially if you use it with PS chain lightning. Ideal seems to be 3 Blades of Ice, 2PS, 3Cobra/Tiger charges. FoF messes with leech converts phys to fire), so likely want to avoid charges on that too.
Always thought javazon was bs op, so to put other characters up there is refreshing. It’s kinda neat and something fun to try. Also if you play sp it’s harder to get lv 40 skills so it’s not as op
yeah its cool but you keep saying low gear with enigma, andys, maras, griffons, soj, arachs mesh, and oh yeah the thing that makes this all work and the most expensive, infinity
MA assassin was able to do P8 without this insanity. Now is just so broken, and this is not even the strongest MA build, dragon Talon + tiger strike will melt ubers even faster, also Cobra Strike, in the other hand tiger strike + dragon tail for 90k splash sustained dmg at 7 frames is ridiculous
The probability should just stack differently (should be two independent trials, so 75% total) - even having a total of 80-90% would work ok, you'd have your fun for a while then after 5-10 insane hits you'd have to recharge... I think that's fair
I laugh every time watching these type of videos when hearing "and anni and torch of course". As casual player not sitting at Diablo 24/7/365 I'm lucky to have like 2 annis and NO torch for all the season 😀
@@ischi8368 I'm not using external websites to trade. And several days I tried to find some Anni or Torch in lobby. None...zero....nada....this game really needs trading platform.
when he started to explain the charges on phoenix strike i was like: "Wait dont all charges stack?" And yes. Yes they do. I hope this stays in the game. Its immense fun.
Everything u build to 3 charges except phoenix strike. It all works for claws of fire, claws, of thunder, and claws of ice. Phoenix strike releases the charge it is at so charge 2 is better than charge 3. Hope this makes sense. Basically only phoenix strike you stop early and all other ma charge skills you can charge to 3 no worries.
OMG, thanks for doing this test, I knew it will be OP. And what do you think about TS? It's cheap x10-20 damage multiplier now. There was old TS + Dragon Tail combination which is already pretty descent, but can go even further now.
How to fix martial arts: They need to revamp all the assassin runewords and unqiues to have a 100% chance to proc ONE of the abilities. Like shadow killer should have blades of ice, bartucs could have something from claws of thunder , etc. I think this would solve this issue and still be in line with what they are trying to do. That way you can also build certain types of martial arts. Right now you have ALL of it all the time for very little investment and every other weapon for sin is completely useless. This is the wrong way to go about this.
Love this build. Its op as hell but as someone who loved playing MA sin all the time. It just wasn't strong enough past p1. Now I can have as much fun as I want telestomping everything with fireworks.
100% percent chance to not use charges is kind of a glitch. It is like 100% resistances or 100% crushing blow. Everything that adds up like this is capped to 75% or 95% so there is no reason for this one to allow 100% chance. But enjoy it as long as it lasts.
Its a challenging line to walk. If you feel too weak then people get frustrated and quit, if you feel to OP everything feels trivialized, people have fun with it for a bit then get bored and quit.
Reminds me of my critical mass wizard build on D3 way back. Super fun but I can see why it might get out of hand. Granted this is like top tier end game gear. I can see a nerf coming, at least to stacking charges.
I hate this. Genuinely. It's Path of Exile/D3. The fact that this even left the drawing board is laughable and indicative of the mindset these devs have. They don't understand the game and how d2 itemisation works. It's too much moved to the item, just like D3 legendary items. Uninstalled D2R months ago and this just reinforces my decision.
I'm so hyped!! I've always played as a martial arts assassin even when she was considered a C tier. I definitely feel like I have a good advantage after all these years and trial/error 😉. Super excited to try these new runes and strategies 👌
I admire your passion for playing an unpopular character. You must have a lot of skill and dedication to master her as a martial arts assassin. I’m glad you’re hyped for the new runes and strategies. I hope you have fun and dominate the game!
MA assassin FINALLY being viable is amazing. It suddenly looks like it competes strongly for BEST S tier bulid which is a bewildering thought. Not necessarily a bad one though. At least I hope it gets to have this power level for season 3. They can adjust it for season 4 if it proves too dominant. So so happy to see new endgame viable builds. More of this blizzard!!! We build love variety!
Well its just Blizzard.... worst balancing ever in the last 10 years ..... Blizzard has only 2 modes for balancing -> very underwhelming and insanely overpowerd. MA needed a buff badly . But its done in a way that is just a joke.... MA is still bad unless you get exactly these 2 weapons... then it becomes ridiculous op.... well thats not how balancing should work
This is stupid lol. This is beyond viable, this is just them throwing everything about MA assassin out the window and saying fck it let's make it the best character in the game. I respect the zero fcks given, but yeah.. This is going to end up with them nerfing core MA assassin gameplay to make sure they don't have to admit this Mosaic runeword was a mistake. There has to be a way to balance this character in the middle, somehow, since this is insanely strong.
This is so awesome. Even with the next hit delay on thunder claws and Phoenix strike this build seems to wreck.. now do a tiger strike one and try it with full crushing blow build
I don't see why they should nerf it. Yeah, it's ridiculously strong. But again, we've had 3 S tier builds dominate the meta for a very, very long time. Either nerf all of them, or allow another member to join the tiny club.
It needs to be nerfed. Not into the ground.... I'm fine with it remaining the best spec in the game for season 3. But, I think it needs to be brought down to similar power of Blizz Sorc in S2 which was already crazy strong.
On the flipside: Allowing builds like this to be viable is what set PoE on the course of becoming "run around and blow up the entire screen". It all started with Cast on Crit and Discharge, then it snowballed into the state that it's currently in. I'd rather not have D2R end up like that. You can make a build viable without allowing it to blow up the entire screen.
@@Squatch_11 The issue with Seasons are that you constantly have to add more to change the meta, so the further on seasons go, without actually new zones and content, the more you are either stuck with a game that is boring and always feels the same with no evolving meta, or you end up in a problem like PoE, where seasons upon seasons of new items and/or systems have resulted in absurd amounts of Power Creep. D2 had ladder, but seasons were never even thought of as a way to keep interest in Diablo 2 when it was originally designed. I like to think of D2R as its own "Re-imagining" of D2 in modern era. Thus it feels necessary to me that the game evolves, rather than annoying me.
Definitely need a nerf. Another proof that the devs dont test their changes enough. I think they should remove the charge duration refresh, but increase the charge duration. I also think the number of different kind of charge should be limited. Something like 2 kind of charge at the same time. It would enable more strategic play when dealing with immunes.
Inspired by Llama's Hell guided playthrough on a MA assassin, I attempted to finish Hell myself with the same Phoenix strike build. Took me about 3 weeks to finish it with budget items. Because I don't have D2 Resurrected, I did it all in my old 1.13 version where I have none of the new runewords or the charges consume buff to phoenix strike. Just the fact that I finished hell with budget gear and MA assassin in the old version of the game was enough to make me feel proud, since I am not a veteran Diablo 2 player. My items were Smoke Armor, Chromatic circlet with socketed PDiamond, Rhyme shield, a magic 28 fire rest plated belt, a magic 20 frw and poison resist boots, rare gloves with 10 IAS and cold and poison res, angelics amulet and ring. My weapon was malice claw for mobs and strength claw for bosses. My merc was holy freeze with tal's mask, lionheart armor and honor thresher for mobs and strength thresher for bosses. My inventory was full with life or resist charms. It's insane how much of a glass cannon she is. She dies very easily even on level 83 with 1360 health but also deals so much elemental damage that baal went down in 2 minutes. Most of my time in the baal fight was going back to town for potions, despawning his clone or death from festering appendages rather than the actual fight.
I just love this: Lama saying "if you hate it, I dont blame you"
Also Lama: smiling all over his face. 😂😀
I smiled all over it aswell. Finally after 20 years it is now viable.
I tried it in D2 LoD and eventually swapped to kicksin instead because it is too much of a dmg loss charging all over again, and have a burst dmg like every 5 to 8 seconds. A Procsin was or is already better than LoD MA Assa.
Also a minus of charging over and over again is the squishiness of assa herself. Before you have all your charges up, you probably were 80% or even more just fresh meat.
Maybe he's referring to the blinding graphics. Reminded those people of D3.
yes and
@@barial1 some people just hate d3 becos it's too colorful n bright
Geek
I really wanted to make a Hell-viable Dual Claw Assassin some day so this is good news. When I read about the runewords I didn't suspect they'd let those 50% chances on Mosaics stack additively, but here we are. I was sure they'd make it 2 x 50% check.
Originally in D2, every item with the same aura/effect will stack up.
I'm glad they didn't change that.
i'd like to call this a "christmas assassin" build, since she looks like a goddamn christmas tree when fully charged
Perhaps the "Mrs. Claws" build.
@@XisoLate Your joke isn't getting enough love. I laughed.
it's the ravesin, case closed.
@@XisoLate That's brilliant :D
Mrs. Santa-Claws ?
Interesting thing is that you don't really need high end gear like Enigma. You can use Dragon Flight to teleport around for the most part, and it keeps refreshing your charges as well. For bosses/ubers I suspect Tiger Strike will be instant kill (8 kicks with 3rd charge of tiger strike lvl 40+ along with some crushing blow are hundreds of thousands of dmg).
I suspect the charge management, especially for phoenix strike, will be a pain, especially if you overcharge.
i just used 2x mosaic on a cheated level 99 char and cleared p5 baalrun yes its difficult bc u are onehit but from a damage perspective its absolut crazy, means if u have 2x mosaic u can do EVERYTHING
its millions depending on your set up. was hitting that before this patch
Overcharge is fine, just switch your weapons and kick once with that CTA😂
I was thinking about dragon tail during this - it double dips damage, multipliers, giving all the bonus ED to the phys, then converting it to the increased fire, then buffing the fire. Having high level permanent 3 charge tiger strike on a dragon tail with 1000% bonus fire damage - that would be some damage.
Wow, that sounds like a very impressive and fun build. You seem to have a lot of game knowledge and experience with the assassin class. I admire your creativity and strategy for using different skills and gear to optimize your damage and mobility. I’m curious to learn more from you. Thanks for sharing your insights and tips.👍
We're all gonna be kung fu fighting
Will we be fast as lightning?
@@deathrattleshaker it may be a little bit frightning
@@PoxikFrostbitedoesn't matter cause we got expert timing
Just think how many claws we have thrown away in the past looking for the GG traps claws 🤣
Literally chillin at work listening to this, I took my sunglasses off and immediately after llama says “put your sunglasses on you’re gonna need them” lmao
Love the MA-sin, but I kind of wish that they put the new mechanic on the class rather than on a specific runeword because now this is getting closer to diablo 3 where the builds and items are dictating each other. If they would've added it to claw mastery, going up to 50% at a certain level, you could use 1 mosaic and another weapon of choice, now it's just: "playing MA? yepyep, double mosaic or play another build".
I am happy to see another top teir build. Hammerdin and sorc have remained on top for far to long. :)
I want a whole group of these doing baal runs
Whenever there's a good build or skill, Llama says it's "broken", then it gets nerfed. Thanks dude.
Most of us will never get all that hacked edited gear
don't forget cobra strike can also be stacked, meaning you're getting an insane amount of life and mana leech. the build is just busted. Im ok with it because the usual builds are as stale as can be.
I kinda saw this coming after that patch announcement. But it is nice to see it played out. But damn, that is both beautiful and disgusting at the same time. Martial arts assassins needed love but these claws are the only items that can let them shine.
Indeed, these claws are mandatory for the build (and pretty cheap). I would rather see changes to the skills than item such as these.
True. As fun as this item would be, brand new mechanics brought into the game I feel it's changing d2. I'm all for a variety of existing skills and auras on items as well as MA assassin skill improvements. This item basically removes the whole charge and release concept of the assassin.
I love it and I hate it at the same time. It's really cool, like making a Tesladin or whatever with insane gear, but it doesn't require insane gear.
OMG...FINALLY...I've loved Sin from the start. Now I have a reason to come back again.
I expect us to see a "Can't Stack Damage Charges" nerf in the future.
this has always been my favorite build, its so nice to see it being buffed :D
Assassin and Necro are always gonna be my favorite characters.
followed around a guy running this build as a reasonably geared lightning sorc, it was indeed nuts.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Every patch I've been waiting to hear that the sin has improved.
OMG that is AWESOME! Love it! Thanks Lama for the build.
You can essentially guarantee they will nerf this. They will likely reduce mosaic to 45%, so that you cannot have 100% charge not consumed uptime. If they dont change the runeword, they will have to change the damage scaling or stacking of the charges to remove previous charges
Probably but maybe they won't. They have let Javzon and Hammerdin be stupid OP for 20 years, maybe they will let us have some fun with something new for a while before clobbering it. Its not like end game D2 is difficult for any S tier build anyway.
I think this new build is really fun! i have been waiting ages for Assa to viable finally now it is.
Ill keep as is for the first season then i would balance to only have one kind of charges if you have 2 Mosaic ( only if 2 ) otherwise u can stack all charges
Looks great to me as a trapsin user and a MAsin wanna play user now i can finally play the reason i first chose her and last timed i used MAsin but now we can enjoy this class as intended
It's nice that the martial arts assassin has more viability pvm. I'd rather them let her own this patch and nerf next patch like the cold sorc and her reign.
I'm probably just going to start barb and rush hustle and see what builds work well.
What there need on cold sorc ?
Yeah, fully agreed. Could you imagine, each character could have a season to reign over. This is the season of the assassin. Maybe next season nerf her and give necromancer a chance to own, like skeletal mages insane power with ability to auto cast skeletal mage from corpses or something.
I’m torn. Go with the herd? Or go with FoHdin which I’ve never done.
they're going to put it that you can only have one type of charge up at a time
Basically, get 1 vex 1 ist and destroy the game. Insane. Great to see a really new build in action
I wasn’t going to play this season because it seemed like not enough changed to make it different. After seeing this without a doubt I’m playing the MA sin
100% this will never get live like it is at the moment
It was clear that with 100% chance from both mosaics this will be broken so i dont know why you all wanted it to be 50% per claw
omg, can finally play the assasin without feeling like I'm wasting my time entirely. (I refuse to play traps)
Love it personally! Now make a budget build with just the 2 RWs and no infinity
You don't really need infinity with this. It's got 4 different damage types already. Infinity is just icing on the cake.
Could you do a play through of this build like you do with the other classes and making it through hell difficulty with the assassin?
I actually love it.
20 year old game , time to get crazy !
Haven't played in a bit...what are the numbers next to item names?
check out the new wartheory video addressing the biggest issue with the new sin setups and the missile damage delay flags...also this build is gonna kill gfx cards LOL turn your vfx quality and vfx lighting quality down to get the best experience playing this and also to crash less during travincal or at shenk...
Did I miss something? Is it April 1st already?
Faxe or bust of speed I tried fade ok but bust of speed makes it so much fun
i dont get where the meteors are coming from.... you arent wearing anything with chance to cast anything
i think its from phoenix strike?
Never played a MA assa? Too bad
What if D2 had a build equivalent to Path of Exile's cast on crit discharge build?
Finally, Assassin isnt just a trash class!
Halfway through the video I said "What in the path of exile nonsense is this". Then you said path of exile assassin and i lol'd
Can you Play this build casual? Single player? How Long to build like this?
wait i’ve never seen that spell “chaos bolt” is that new?
What are the numbers in parenthesis next to the item names? Ah...a mod.
I hope they dont nerf it. Meele needed some love.
I called this the crashed build because it crash my game so frequently when the skill is activated.
On a serious note they need to improve the Battle net on d2r.
This build only works with the new RW, correct?
I think this is finaly the First Build you can have Fun with in endgame. They shouldnt nerve this they should buff other chars as well.
Wouldn’t treachery work well too?
Arguing whether it will be nerfed or not is kind of ridiculous. Blizzard has shown they are willing to change the landscape of D2 finally and after all this time they just accidentally created a build that mitigates all enemy resistances, mitigates all incoming damage via 300+ resistances and freezing the entire screen, has 100% uptime with virtually zero maintenance, and only requires a minute to "setup". Yea, I'm sure they'll leave that in game as-is.
I could see them just changing the spenders to only cast once per finishing move cast. So even with six+ kicks it casts just one set of each finisher. That'll also make the other spender moves a more compelling choice potentially rather than just Kick.
does Cobra Strikes adds up after you stacked all the other charges ? I can see my assasin stealing mana and live if I use only Cobra strikes but as soon as I stack all the other charges wont steal anymore ,,, even if I cast Cobra as last ... (It's my first time using the assisn so I must do something wrong ;) )
Is this still viable for the new season that started today?
I love how he's getting petty on a few gcs that are worth like an UM each but he's real nonchalant about the infinity, "he just has infinity", lol.
I'd much rather see mid tier build without enigma and infinity.
If you're gonna show case an end gear build, you might as well deck her out with gear you know the player is going to have at that point, like all skiller gcs
with just an infinity on the merc and no sunder charms and no skillers it still shreds p8
Does Terrorized Meph work as intended now?
I like it but still started sorc its about as crazy looking as a wind druid if it was mutil colored and vibrant
This is the most expensive build in game, because you need to dual wield RTX 4090 for it to work
LOL! Tho tbh, its not that bad. Its nothing compared to the lightshows that S tier PoE builds put on the screen.
Finally a new character after 20 years. Thanks blizzard.
YES. Finally. A melee character on par with the broken casters.
Let's hope barb gets something similar will be awesome
And still can't compare to a half as well geared LF Javazon.
@@Loathy rly did u not see the p8 crushed with eas?
@@StockDrifter barb needs twohanded weapons w/o penalty and to be able to use both sets of weapons on I and II if his mastery of weapon is 20 or more.
This is awesome but will most likely be nerfed hard - This is the "Vampire Survivors" build
I wish they put chance to save charge on some synergy instead of the only rune word. Or just remove charges consuming mechanic completely replacing it with timed duration without any renewal possibility. At least it will not look so broken.
They will almost certainly change how Mosaic works so that you can't get the 100% charges are never consumed effect. That's the part that makes this broken and silly.
@@Phyrre56 yeah, agree. Pretty sure they will in the end of season.
why would this get nerfed? It's worse than Cold or Lightning Sorc in terms of clearspeed/speed in general and worse than a regular kicksin when it comes to bossing. This build is literally average idk why they would nerf it especially with it beeing a melee build aka it's bad to begin with
They might not nerf it at all.
I suspect this may have something to do with D4 and them pumping assassin's. They're spending a lot of time honing this game, when d4 comes out if they release an assassin DLC, they may be incentivized to make Assassin a fan favorite in this game just to plug it in that game.
That and they may be looking to buff just plain every class in some way over time, from the scale of it lately it feels like a lot of classes are just getting reworks and buff's in general, especially mid-level items. Mal / Gul is not too expensive for this build, they likely are trying to make the mid-game more satisfying.
But we'll see of course.
It's definitely the vampire survivors build though, nailed it.
Finally! The day that LOD came out I started with a martial arts assasin and was blown away over how good she was at the low levels, 5 hours later I was lvl 28 and could not beat the ancients for the life of me, went to bed and havn't played martial arts since.
How is this gonna help you with normal ancients?^^
@A. F. you skip it or have someone help. If sp you're screwed lol or have to level another way then switch
@@a.f.331 For single player, you have to use some other build to get to the point where you can create 2 mosaics. Then you respec into this build. 2 Mals and 2 Guls are basically nothing.
There is a guide from the author of the video, where he went through normal pretty smoothly, using fists of fire skill.
@@a.f.331 This is an endgame build. Just level up with traps / blade sentries, they annihilate ancients.
i hope when they nerf this they dont destroy it completely. always wanted this skill tree to actually work well
Yeah definitely when not if. This is way too OP lol
This build doesn't make the skill tree work well, though. It essentially compromises the entire idea of the ebb and flow between charging and discharging, and replaces it with a unique mechanic that is entirely tied to dual wielding one specific item.
Not a great way to make the tree work. I do, however, agree that it looks quite fun and it is most likely what I will be trying this ladder.
Maybe there should be a chance to not consume any charges on the Claw Mastery Skill level with an added % not to consume charges on certain/all Claw Weapons or maybe just on the Unique Claw Weapons. Same like the Ress all on a Paladin Shield, a Claw would either have some +skills or a %chance to not consume charges.
@@viciouscrossbow real talk tho ... this build is worse than any sorc build when it comes to clear speed and worse than a regular kicksin when it comes to bossing. I kinda understand that it can do both to a degree but it straight up is not even close to Sorc in it's current state so it will not change the meta. Some people will play it this season because it is new for sure, but it really is not that good
@@yarlehnowz This build isn't as strong as a fully geared javazon though, so if it's 'way too OP' and needs to be nerfed, then I hope they nerf all the other 'way too OP' builds, or it's pretty dumb to just nerf this imo.
I hope they will provide such love for the Barbarian in the next patch. And for all melee characters in general
We should get melee splash for melee attacks. In PD2 with splash it just feels like another game when you play for example frenzy barb.
This is no love, they just did in the wrong way without thinking at all.
And that build is not even the strongest.
use me as a fix 2 handers for ww barbs and druids button LOL
AMEN! jesus christ, FRENZY/WW BARB ANNNNNNNND BOWAZAN!!!! hOLY fuck bowazon PLEASE GOD!
@@andresalanis7767 explain please
Just rolled Mosaic on single player, so I can confirm it works. It seems this time they brought everything related to the new season to single player as well! Which is awesome!!!
Thanks for that confirmation. I have always felt ladder stuff should be available on single player right from the start especially being a single player only player. Theres really no reason not too cause theres nothing to compete against.
Thank christ. it felt so bad having to arbitrarily wait a whole season to get the cool new stuff, just to have to feel the same thing about the next season's stuff when you just want to play single player and not deal with online.
@@Yepmyaccount Fairly sure they created it on single player Online, it isn't available in offline.
Can it be created in non ladder too?
@@BladeDemonX1 No, ladder exclusive RW, last seasons RW's can be made in non-ladder tho
After all these years, I’ve never seen any of those finishing moves before lol
YEEEAHHH, this will get nerfed 100% ... but hopefully they will just make Mosaic way more expensive instead of actually nerfing the mechanic.
so early its in 360p
FYI, was watching Ginger Gaming Mentor test Assassin builds with dual Mosaic claws, and the game was freezing when dropping repetitive Meteor charges from Phoenix Strike on Uber Diablo. Not an issue on Hell Players 8, but the extra life of the Uber D-Clone was causing a rediculous amount of meteors to fall and was locking up the game.
🤣🤣 Awesome.
Tell him you can't run D2R on a potato toaster.
Classic mode
Imagine how long the game would last if 8 players in one game with this build would start killing mobs xD.
Man... I've been playing dual claw Phoenix Strike assassin since the character was first released. I didn't care that she was off-meta, it was just a fun build to play. To see her grow into this absolute avatar of devastation makes me so happy! Hopefully the nerfs won't slam her into oblivion
come play PD2
Relatable. Always loved the sin, but I never was much of a trap man. This feels like justice.
Instead of nerf we need more buffs like this for all other bad builds
Wow, you are a true legend of the Phoenix Strike assassin! I respect your loyalty and creativity for sticking with this off-meta build and making it shine. You have mastered the art of unleashing all the elements with your dual claws and kicking your enemies into oblivion. You are an inspiration for all assassin players out there!
Probably they won't, don't think they care about d2r rn, at least u til d4 player base leaves and goes back to d2
The Claw! - Sun Tzu
360p ftw xD
Ginger mentor did some pretty extensive testing - NHD really messed with claws of thunder, especially if you use it with PS chain lightning. Ideal seems to be 3 Blades of Ice, 2PS, 3Cobra/Tiger charges. FoF messes with leech converts phys to fire), so likely want to avoid charges on that too.
Always thought javazon was bs op, so to put other characters up there is refreshing. It’s kinda neat and something fun to try. Also if you play sp it’s harder to get lv 40 skills so it’s not as op
Why is it 360p?
Because we're so early it hasn't uploaded in 1080 yet.
yeah its cool but you keep saying low gear with enigma, andys, maras, griffons, soj, arachs mesh, and oh yeah the thing that makes this all work and the most expensive, infinity
Honestly I'm glad we get more S tier, and every class should have at least one build at this level.
EXACTLY! The amount of time and effort to build what THIS is takes forever...every class should be able to pay off for that time investment
MA assassin was able to do P8 without this insanity. Now is just so broken, and this is not even the strongest MA build, dragon Talon + tiger strike will melt ubers even faster, also Cobra Strike, in the other hand tiger strike + dragon tail for 90k splash sustained dmg at 7 frames is ridiculous
No this is the only S tier build now. All the former S tier builds are now A tier.
It would be really exciting and an incentive to play on the ladder.
@@____GoMeZ____ people will have this built by the end of the weekend lol
The probability should just stack differently (should be two independent trials, so 75% total) - even having a total of 80-90% would work ok, you'd have your fun for a while then after 5-10 insane hits you'd have to recharge... I think that's fair
I laugh every time watching these type of videos when hearing "and anni and torch of course". As casual player not sitting at Diablo 24/7/365 I'm lucky to have like 2 annis and NO torch for all the season 😀
Well, you can get a low rolled torch for any class but Paladin and Sorc literally a handful of perfect gems.
@@ischi8368 I'm not using external websites to trade. And several days I tried to find some Anni or Torch in lobby. None...zero....nada....this game really needs trading platform.
@@ischi8368 I'm pretty much SSF every gameplay.
@@DavidBusa Are you a consol pleb? You can litterally just make a game called: "N torch O rune". No need for external websites...
@@ESP4thaWin I'm PC player. And I tried this. Again none.....zero.....nada.
when he started to explain the charges on phoenix strike i was like: "Wait dont all charges stack?" And yes. Yes they do.
I hope this stays in the game. Its immense fun.
Everything u build to 3 charges except phoenix strike. It all works for claws of fire, claws, of thunder, and claws of ice. Phoenix strike releases the charge it is at so charge 2 is better than charge 3. Hope this makes sense. Basically only phoenix strike you stop early and all other ma charge skills you can charge to 3 no worries.
The problem with that is they either need to make all the other characters like this or nerf it.
OMG, thanks for doing this test, I knew it will be OP. And what do you think about TS? It's cheap x10-20 damage multiplier now. There was old TS + Dragon Tail combination which is already pretty descent, but can go even further now.
How to fix martial arts:
They need to revamp all the assassin runewords and unqiues to have a 100% chance to proc ONE of the abilities. Like shadow killer should have blades of ice, bartucs could have something from claws of thunder , etc.
I think this would solve this issue and still be in line with what they are trying to do. That way you can also build certain types of martial arts.
Right now you have ALL of it all the time for very little investment and every other weapon for sin is completely useless. This is the wrong way to go about this.
Love this build. Its op as hell but as someone who loved playing MA sin all the time. It just wasn't strong enough past p1. Now I can have as much fun as I want telestomping everything with fireworks.
100% percent chance to not use charges is kind of a glitch. It is like 100% resistances or 100% crushing blow. Everything that adds up like this is capped to 75% or 95% so there is no reason for this one to allow 100% chance. But enjoy it as long as it lasts.
I get how people dont like seeing their powerful builds get beaten but why cant every build be powerful
Nah. People don't like seeing D2R head down the slippery slope that POE went down. Once you let a build like this thru, there is no going back.
They need higher mode then hell and tzone
Its a challenging line to walk. If you feel too weak then people get frustrated and quit, if you feel to OP everything feels trivialized, people have fun with it for a bit then get bored and quit.
Reminds me of my critical mass wizard build on D3 way back. Super fun but I can see why it might get out of hand. Granted this is like top tier end game gear. I can see a nerf coming, at least to stacking charges.
I hate this. Genuinely. It's Path of Exile/D3. The fact that this even left the drawing board is laughable and indicative of the mindset these devs have. They don't understand the game and how d2 itemisation works. It's too much moved to the item, just like D3 legendary items. Uninstalled D2R months ago and this just reinforces my decision.
I'm so hyped!! I've always played as a martial arts assassin even when she was considered a C tier. I definitely feel like I have a good advantage after all these years and trial/error 😉. Super excited to try these new runes and strategies 👌
Same!! Even with CoH and decked out gear I always had trouble raising the monster level. Let's goo!
I admire your passion for playing an unpopular character. You must have a lot of skill and dedication to master her as a martial arts assassin. I’m glad you’re hyped for the new runes and strategies. I hope you have fun and dominate the game!
MA assassin FINALLY being viable is amazing. It suddenly looks like it competes strongly for BEST S tier bulid which is a bewildering thought. Not necessarily a bad one though. At least I hope it gets to have this power level for season 3. They can adjust it for season 4 if it proves too dominant. So so happy to see new endgame viable builds. More of this blizzard!!! We build love variety!
Well its just Blizzard.... worst balancing ever in the last 10 years ..... Blizzard has only 2 modes for balancing -> very underwhelming and insanely overpowerd. MA needed a buff badly . But its done in a way that is just a joke.... MA is still bad unless you get exactly these 2 weapons... then it becomes ridiculous op.... well thats not how balancing should work
These videos are how nerfs happen lol
Would a small nerf put this in line with other top tier builds done correctly? Sure, but do we trust blizzard to not overcorrect itself. Hell no.
This is stupid lol. This is beyond viable, this is just them throwing everything about MA assassin out the window and saying fck it let's make it the best character in the game. I respect the zero fcks given, but yeah.. This is going to end up with them nerfing core MA assassin gameplay to make sure they don't have to admit this Mosaic runeword was a mistake. There has to be a way to balance this character in the middle, somehow, since this is insanely strong.
Seems very gear dependent. One thing about hammerdins for example is that they can be really good before you have all the end game gear.
x2 mal/gul is not much gear dependent
@@RunicGG He has full charms and a Griffon’s Eye too, as well as Enigma and Infinity.
@@sunshower6560 it farms on p8 with basic gear you don’t need most of the gear he showed. Enigma isn’t needed either since you have dragon flight.
@@timothybraun3796 I assume you’ve tested this yourself? Interesting if so and really exciting.
This is so awesome. Even with the next hit delay on thunder claws and Phoenix strike this build seems to wreck.. now do a tiger strike one and try it with full crushing blow build
I don't see why they should nerf it. Yeah, it's ridiculously strong. But again, we've had 3 S tier builds dominate the meta for a very, very long time. Either nerf all of them, or allow another member to join the tiny club.
I hope this doesn't get nerfed, the game needs more fun build variety. Every class should have a build that can pop off like this.
It needs to be nerfed. Not into the ground.... I'm fine with it remaining the best spec in the game for season 3. But, I think it needs to be brought down to similar power of Blizz Sorc in S2 which was already crazy strong.
On the flipside: Allowing builds like this to be viable is what set PoE on the course of becoming "run around and blow up the entire screen". It all started with Cast on Crit and Discharge, then it snowballed into the state that it's currently in. I'd rather not have D2R end up like that. You can make a build viable without allowing it to blow up the entire screen.
@@Squatch_11 The issue with Seasons are that you constantly have to add more to change the meta, so the further on seasons go, without actually new zones and content, the more you are either stuck with a game that is boring and always feels the same with no evolving meta, or you end up in a problem like PoE, where seasons upon seasons of new items and/or systems have resulted in absurd amounts of Power Creep.
D2 had ladder, but seasons were never even thought of as a way to keep interest in Diablo 2 when it was originally designed. I like to think of D2R as its own "Re-imagining" of D2 in modern era. Thus it feels necessary to me that the game evolves, rather than annoying me.
100% Nerfed tomorrow
Definitely need a nerf. Another proof that the devs dont test their changes enough.
I think they should remove the charge duration refresh, but increase the charge duration.
I also think the number of different kind of charge should be limited. Something like 2 kind of charge at the same time. It would enable more strategic play when dealing with immunes.
This is worth it, a small nerf is ok, but really it needs to remain S tier. I was smiling the whole time. Thanks!
Inspired by Llama's Hell guided playthrough on a MA assassin, I attempted to finish Hell myself with the same Phoenix strike build. Took me about 3 weeks to finish it with budget items. Because I don't have D2 Resurrected, I did it all in my old 1.13 version where I have none of the new runewords or the charges consume buff to phoenix strike. Just the fact that I finished hell with budget gear and MA assassin in the old version of the game was enough to make me feel proud, since I am not a veteran Diablo 2 player.
My items were Smoke Armor, Chromatic circlet with socketed PDiamond, Rhyme shield, a magic 28 fire rest plated belt, a magic 20 frw and poison resist boots, rare gloves with 10 IAS and cold and poison res, angelics amulet and ring. My weapon was malice claw for mobs and strength claw for bosses. My merc was holy freeze with tal's mask, lionheart armor and honor thresher for mobs and strength thresher for bosses. My inventory was full with life or resist charms. It's insane how much of a glass cannon she is. She dies very easily even on level 83 with 1360 health but also deals so much elemental damage that baal went down in 2 minutes. Most of my time in the baal fight was going back to town for potions, despawning his clone or death from festering appendages rather than the actual fight.