Great review. I'm in the US. I have a 2022 Classic 350 and a T100. I live in a rural hilly area. I might like a 500. But, will it be heavy is the question. I like this 350 because it is so light and it has classic character. I'm 73. Only so many more years with my Triumph I fear. I think the new Triumph 400 bike would be perfect for me, but I fear it has almost no character. I'm not sure what direction to go in. I do enjoy this Classic 350 and I think it will always have a spot in my garage. Its the Triumph I am not so sure about. First world problems, eh? As far as mods to the 350. After reading many many reports, I've decided to avoid performance mods. I'm going to leave the motor, intake and exhaust OEM. Other mods? Yes, much like you have done.
It's a nice problem to have I think. I don't really see why the current 350 engine can't be bored out to 500cc, everything else on the bike could stay the same, it'd just have a little more grunt for long hills.
@@ClassicRides Having modified and rebuilt motors, including boring out motors, I am reluctant to do stuff like that anymore. Maybe its my amateur mechanical skills? I don't know. But, I have found that every time I do something like that it kills the market value of the vehicle or bike #1, and #2, it never seems to be as reliable and trouble free as it would have been if I just left it alone. I think for now I will keep my 350 and my T100 and enjoy them both as long as I can just as they are. Sure, I will make non-engine mods but only if they are 100% reversible. If Triumph, or someone else, would build a modern retro with maybe 40 hp and weighing around 400+/_ Lbs. I would jump on it. I bet a lot of people would. Maybe RE will do that? Right now, just like you, I want to spend some more time on my Bonneville while I can. It is a lovely bike for sure. Sadly, our riding season is about to end here in Vermont. I'm planning to put both bikes in storage soon.
Hey, if this was intentional, no worries! But just in case, I wanted to share a tip: You're not quite using the center stand technique on the RE. The key is to put more force on the stand extension with your leg, while your hand just helps balance as you lean back. Once you get the hang of it, it's super easy! Give it a try - you'll be surprised how effortless it becomes with practice.
@@ClassicRides I agree! I bought a used Bullet 500. A bit more modernized version that kept the soul of the 1 cylinder Classic/Bullets would have been amazing.
Great real world review Matt. Had mine from new in April this year, 2200 miles and zero issues…maybe you were just a bit unlucky with those niggles….bin the fuel-x 😎 As a Guzzi V7 owner too I’ll look forward to your thoughts on that bike 👍🏻
Thanks Dave, I think it'd had just been a bit neglected to be honest so a bit of attention fixed most issues. Seems a lot of folk ditch the Fuel X and have a better running bike so I'll be doing that asap. I've only been out on the V7 a couple of times and I've enjoyed it so far, need to few more miles to properly form an opinion though!
@@ClassicRides Volcanic Brown channel bought his 350 classic back from a friend who had done a few performance mods to the bike, he ended up removing them as he said the bike was nicer to ride as standard. I did recently see a video on UA-cam where someone suggested replacing the injector with one of the RE Hunter (a certain part number) that unlocked more performance. I'm not sure how creditable this mod is but does sound like it could be the answer (if true) to unlocking a bit more power.
@@AliasMrHackenbacker I saw those videos by Volcanic Brown, good food for thought; and I've also read up on swapping the injector out as this seems to be the part that informs the speed limiter. From what I've read all you gain is about 5mph at the top end so possibly not worth the hassle, especially since if you're on a incline you can't to max speed anyway.
Excellent! Really enjoyed that. I think your "non-review" ticked all the boxes. Please do more.... I live in North Manchester and have a stock Hunter 350 and a Gold Star if you want to try them.
Good summary of the bike. Had a lot of the similar niggles. Great to ride at 50-55mph - just find a quiet back road! Yes,the first thing I noticed was the spot light, thanks for the overview of installation. Create kits of these for your website and I think you’ll be on to a winner!
I’ve done most of the mods you mentioned apart from fuel x module, the happy zone for me was the dna/decat pipe with the standard cover back on. I’d recommend keeping an eye on the drive chain, mine had numerous tight spots & some binding links, I replaced it at 5000miles with a did x ring & it became smoother with a better gear change!
Your feelings are similar to mine regarding the 350 Classic. A ridiculous amount of false neutrals, which have virtually disappeared with miles and oil changes. The LCD panel mists up in warm weather (!?!), fortunately the clock doesn't. The original Ceat tyres are okay but nothing special. Suspension is on the harsh side, even at the softest setting. It's a heavy motorcycle for its capacity, though doesn't feel it on the road. However the bike is more than the sum of the parts, and the engine improves with every mile, to make a sweet little unit. Biggest bugbear for me are the tubed wheels, which look great but are a complete pain to live with not helped by Royal Enfield's old school mudguards and idiosyncratic design. Just fixed a rear puncture, so I know. I'd definitely think twice before embarking on a solo tour. I've serviced my Classic from day one and risked invalidating the warranty. Too many stories of basic work being left undone and schedules missed, plus it's a simple bike to work on. I don't know if Royal Enfield's UK labour rates are unrealistic, or dealers think it's a cheap bike that's not worth fussing over. There are accounts of very large mileages being accrued on some 350s, so the design is basically a sound one and rewards a little tlc.
Change out the tyres the Ceats are ok but i had over 8000+km on mine loads of tread but we’re feeling like they were worn out even though they still looked fine, and having been a Ducati rider for the last 20 + years 8000km on tyres is strange to me, I had metzeler road tec’s fitted everything felt better, braking and suspension I’ve gone up 3 clicks on my rear suspension as my wife is a regular pillion and run the chain slightly slacker for the same reason, I had forgotten what a good set of tyres do for a bike, made the Ceats feel like I was riding on hoops of concrete, but I agree with you about the tubed tyres and the limited tyre choices for the classic, I’ve even thought about a set of Htnr / Hunter wheels and some Michelins ? For me that would make my classic just about perfect, Pete🇫🇷
@@PeterHolland-mu7yn There are examples on UA-cam of riders changing spoked wheels for tubeless alloy on their Classic 350. This suits the plainer models more than the old school variants. There is an alloy wheeled Classic available in some markets, not sure if it made it to Britain.
Hi Matt, Thanks for your thoughts. Here in Australia, you can pick up either the classic or Bullet 500 the longest models are around 2021 for $15000 with a sidecar or from $11000 for a black edition. Then, going down from there.
You have to fit a relay to the bike. The bulbs in the lights draw anytime from 55w-80w, and the resistance in the wiring will melt the outer sheath and short out, resulting in wiring damage!
Enjoyed the review and found I had some of the same issues with my C350 you’ve noted - loose bolts, etc. Like you I de-cated, installed the FuelX, did the 500 mile maintenance - and the performance just wasn’t what I needed to be safe on our USA roads. Hills were a challenge too - especially when loaded. I changed the main sprocket but took it off as it didn’t help much. I considered installing the cam to get more power but decided to trade it in and wait for a 650 which I think should be excellent for this style and weight of bike. Hope it’s here soon! Great video per usual. Cheers from NE Ohio USA 😎
I can totally understand that, as a bit of a toy it’s brilliant but for a lot of folk like yourself it’s not going to cut it. The Interceptor is great though, I’m sure you’ll love it 👌
Great review love your "talkies " I to ride a small 20hp daily ride as yours it's fine until it smells a slope good job I live in the fens !!! But boy when you get back on the t120 it's a superb feeling for sure The enfield keeps your channel interesting for sure matt well done My wife was facinated by the way you got all the camping gear aboard Keep up the good work
Thanks Ian, we're the opposite here in the Peaks, there's virtually no flat ground anywhere so you're either going up or down at all times 😁 The T120 felt like an absolute beast after being away from it for so long, so much power compared to the 350! And yes, it's amazing what you can fit on a bike with a bit of strategic packing.
Thanks, I got my pannier rails from Hitchcocks Motorcycles, but I think they're a general shape so you should be able to find them from a number of places, including RE themselves.
I am still here and watching. Thanks for the videos. Keep them coming. Just a couple of things to put right on the bike. Yes, upgrade the headlamp bulb halfords do some sensible priced upgraded bulbs for motorcycles. Some people have fitted LED bulbs to save power as the alternator isn't overly powerful on these bikes,so don't be surprised if you get a flat battery at some point with the extra lamp fitted. As the charging over time may not keep up with the extra required. The surging you talked about,make sure the relays haven't been over greased as from new they are, and they make the relays play up. Also it is actually worth upgrading the relays, too. Might be worth looking to see how many teeth your front sprocket has, some people fit an extra tooth sprocket as they think it makes it go faster, it doesn't and these bikes like to be rev-ed and makes it work a little better on hills as standard. Quick question: Why did you wrap the decat pipe? I have a good ceat rear tyre if you need one 😊
Thanks David, I’ll definitely check the relays, thought I’d cleaned them out properly but perhaps I didn’t do it well enough. And I’ll be doing the led upgrade to the bulb too, the spotlight doesn’t seem to drain the battery too much, I did 3 hours with it on with the high beam on also and everything seemed ok (don’t think I’d risk my heated jacket too though!). The wrap is for two reasons, mainly the heat shield rattles a little against the decat pipe due to a dodgy bolt; and also keeping a bit of heat in the exhaust can’t hurt the gas flow out. The bike was pretty much untouched when I got it so I can’t imagine the front sprocket was changed, but I’ll check it anyway, thanks for the tip!
True, in the city we hardly go over 70-80 kmph but on the highways you can easily hit 120-140 kmph where the lack of power is so in your face. But on the other hand if it had more power if would probably not be this fun to ride at low speeds and probably also over heat in traffic and of course low fuel efficiency. So overall the 350 is the perfect balance for our conditions. Also those problems that you mentioned regarding the loose and dirty parts its definitely dealers fault, ive got three classics in my friends group and none of them had these issues. And yes the first oil change just transforms your bike, its unbelievable.
Yes I agree, none of the problems are really RE's fault, the dealer's putting the bikes together should have sorted them out. Wonderful bike once it's run in properly though!
Great vídeo 👌 you have good taste on bikes. I own the same bikes T120, Classic 350, and Guzzi v7. And I love to know what you think about V7 stone. Sorry for my english. Saludos desde México ✌️
Matt, you've mentioned before that you hate speaking on camera, but from this side of the screen I don't think you have anything to worry about. And you're still tempting me with the RE, I'm thinking of one as a bit of a project, something I could slowly turn into a bit of a classic trials lookalike for some gentle green lane pottering.
I would love to hear your thoughts on Moto guzzi. Particularly your thoughts on the dry clutch and its other unique characteristics. I like your honesty about the RE. Have you ridden the hunter 350.
No I haven't ridden it, would be interesting to see how different it is to the Classic. Need a few more miles on the V7 to properly form an opinion, but once I've got one I'll report back in a video for sure 👍🏻
Thanks for covering the additions to the 350, especially the auxiliary light. I'm an American, and I understand the value of the relay in the harness. Not sure what the issue is with others. Anyway. I've been looking forward to this video and appreciate your effort. Cheers.
Glad you found the video useful, I know Americans don’t really have a mental block around relays, I was just being a bit facetious about the coincidence 🙂
No worries, Matt. I get facetious. Sometimes, you just have to go there. 😉 That said, I appreciate your honest assessment of your Classic 350 experience. There are rumours about that a 650 Classic will soon be released. Some have already been photographed in the UK. This should be interesting.
Fantastic Matt, really enjoyed the review….thanks. I’ve a 2016 classic 500…have a false neutral happening on it too so will probably have to investigate…it’s only done about 2.5k miles so low mileage for an 8 year old plodder. Interested in which bar end mirrors you bought…they look ideal and aren’t wider than the bars which is what I’m after so would be grateful if you could let me know. Go well and thanks again
Thanks, glad you liked the review. I imagine your 500 will get better with a few more miles on it; the oil change and really pushing the bike past where it felt comfortable seemed to do the trick for me. The mirrors are from Hitchcocks Motorcycles, I don't think they had a 'name', but if you search their online catalogue I'm sure you'll spot them.
Cheers Matt. Good to hear your honest common-sense opinions and about your upgrades. I tried to find a maroon Bullet 350 recently and can't! They are all sold out in advance of the new Euro5+ bikes, apparently. I totally agree a 500 single would have been awesome (I find their 650 twin feels a bit 'modern' and boring). Maybe next year! (But I don't think so...) But I think I will give a Bullet a go when I can find one. I test rode one and loved it apart from I could barely get it to 60mph, but I'm hearing from just about everyone that after a few thousand it is much more reasonable (and that new air filters, plugs, etc help).
Yes once the engine's broken in they're much more useable, and I have to say if a maroon Bullet had been available when I bought my Classic I might not have bought the Classic.
A lot of folk saying that about the Fuel X, definitely going to take mine off. I've heard good things about the cam change too but I think for me I'm just accepting the bike for what it is, if I want big power I've always got the T120 🙂
@ClassicRides the cam is more of a have fun tinkering kind of thing. You don't really gain huge power. it just runs better overall. Also, now that you put on the decat pipe, try going back to the original filter with the fuel x to see if it works better. I think having too much air flow is causing the ecu to have problems, especially with the fuel x.
Great review mate!! Everything you said was on point. Also the issues you mentioned for the bike are things to be really considered but you know it’s an royal Enfield, issues like unwanted noises from brakes and loose nuts and etc are inherited issues from it’s older generation to this current one 😅 Also what engine oil would you recommend for this bike? And about the gears I’ve the same issue like downshifting is fine but whenever I shift from 1st to 2nd gear it’s always gets neutral, after pushing the gear level 2-3 times it shifts to 2nd.. this problem does not happen every time but whenever happens it just irritates a lot 🥲
I used Silkolene 15W-50 Comp 4 XP oil, seemed to do the trick for the false neutrals. Hope you get yours sorted as they’re a lot better when you’re not swearing at your left foot 😁
Yes! Review of MG would be appreciated. I personally have T120 and as a second bike I’ve chosen V7 which is perfect for daily rides but has some issues and can’t compete with T120. So not sure now if V7 was the best choice in this price range (maybe Kawasaki z650rs would be better?).
I've seen many reviews of the classic 350, most of them idealizing the mentioned defects of this bike as "discovery of slowness". It's not only the best classic looking bike on the market, it's also performing like an old bike, underpowered, with few stopping power and dark light, but lots of shining chrome. A very honest review Matt, thanks for that. As you say, a good base for improvements. Could a transmission change compensate any of the lacking power, i.e. changing sprockets/pinion?
I don't think there's a vast amount left in the engine to be honest, I suspect RE have built it for longevity rather than power so other than going down the road of changing the internals of the engine there's probably not a lot of gains to be made elsewhere. Still a very useable bike but I think bored out to 500cc might made it a touch better for faster roads.
Hi Matt, I have the same mods on my 350 dna, decathlon, fuel X lite. I experienced the juddering/surging both before and after the mods. I realised the surging was in top gear only and have concluded the surging was due to the bike trying to jump out of gear. I have since modified my gear change into top gear with upward pressure before the shift and a longer more deliberate upward push. I think the travel into top gear is further than any other gear. Since modifying my gear change I have not had any surging! Thought I would share to see if it works for you.
That's certainly interesting, I'll have to bear that in mind next time it happens. Mine seems to be throttle related as far as I can tell, releasing the throttle completely then coming back on seems to cure it, but I'll definitely look to see if it's related to gear change as well now.
Morning mate, my classic did not loosen up till I clocked up 2500km now goes so much better but I agree 10 - 15kph more top end would be welcome, but having been a Ducati rider for the last 20 years I appreciate the relaxed nature of the ride or I’m getting old. The front brake warped feel I had reported it to my dealer here in France when I took it in for a service and new metzeler road tec tyres, Fanch checked the callipers and gave them a service and with the new tyres which were I noticed seated on the rims properly the front brake problems gone, tyres or callipers ! not sure which cured it, but fine now, no warped disc pump feel, having a great dealership helps one you trust mine is a mom n pop shop they are also riders of their own bikes, important to me, ….. Pete 🇫🇷
That's interesting info on the 'warped' front disk feel, perhaps I'll wait until I swap out the front tyres and see if that changes anything. Thanks for sharing your experience, now all I need to do is find a garage I trust!
Thanks for pointing out the bike issues as these mostly appear to be from a lack of dealership assembly and service quality rather than original manufacture.
Enjoying your UA-cam content Matt also your stills on Instagram, I have done the same mods to my 350 and also added a Kent cam, great bikes! I think a few more talking to camera films would go down well, looking forward to the next. Keep up the stylish work. My last ride was brought to an early end with a rear puncture, needed a new tyre as well as inner tube, all done now, back out Monday 👍
Cracking video. I find my classic runs better and faster when the engine is proper hot and loosened up. Gearbox is better than my t100 but my clocks have the same issue as yours. Wish there was a storage facility like that near me in Shropshire. 👍
Thanks Trev, I'm lucky that the Tame Valley is littered with mills from the old cotton industry so there's usually space to rent if needed. I'd still rather have a proper garage though!
Hi Matt. Great videos, thanks for sharing. I’m 45 and want to get into riding? How do I start? Also - best beginners bike - Interceptor 650 or Bonnie 120?
If you’re in the UK, first step would be to get your CBT booked and go from there; it’s a long process! You could go for either bike really, the Interceptor is probably more beginner friendly, the T120 is quite a powerful bike but it can be done if you’re careful and don’t have a clumsy touch.
In my sixties I noticed i was slowing down to the annoyance of my mates until the only chat between us was my speed so i thought fuck this and bought a classic 350 now I ride alone and love it
I'm installing the Future Eyes F2 spot light-fog lamp (2x60 watt LED) on the OEM engine guard, functionally it works great as per my other ADV bikes. But visually, it looks out of place with the classic look of my Meteor 350. For my future reference, what is the size of your fog lamp? 3,5 inch or 4,5 inch in diameter?
Hi Matt, initially, I fitted the fuel lite, free flow pipe and the dna air filter. I have gone back to the stock pipe and removed the fuel lite. Running better without them. May have to check if reducing flow makes a difference. I love my reborn 350 . I think they plan to release a classic 650, so we will see. Thanks for sharing you thoughts.
Thanks for the info Mark, a lot of folk seem to be saying the same thing that their bike runs better without the Fuel X. I'm hoping there'll be one of the new Classic 650's at this years Motorcycle Live. be great to see one in the flesh.
I fitted all the above mods to my Meteor but went back to ‘stock’. Coastrider Scotland did a comparison while on a ride with his fully modified Classic 350 & a friend’s stock bike- there was no difference between them. Conclusion was to save your money for fuel, which, from my experience I would agree. Other issues you mention such as speedo & front disk would make me wonder if your bike has been a warranty donor, due to stock shortages, for example?
@@johnrutherford4276 Yes I saw that video, unfortunately after I bought all the new parts for my bike! I think putting it back to almost stock is the way forward. I don't think the bike was used as a parts donor, some of the issues seem fairly common and the others I think are just due to the bike not being looked after properly.
Wish I could afford a Ural! Think it's more to do with the dealerships to be fair, I'm not sure they want to put the effort in on a bike that's so cheap.
@@ClassicRides yep you're right about the Enfield. I got the 2016 Ural with 6000 klms...so big saving on new. But the quality control apparently has been improved heaps. I reckon a Himalayan with a 650/750 engine would be great
if you turn the handle bar towards you with your left hand, put your right foot against the centre stand, and your right hand on the bike grip/frame, just roll it onto the centre stand, you won't hurt your back..
The fuel injection "learns" by monitoring the O2 sensor. You shouldn't need a after market fueling. That may be for a closed course without O2 sensor. It needs to sit and idle for about 5 minutes, no throttle. Then operate it normally.
This bike’s engine has been designed to run extremely lean in order to get through Euro 5, adding a free flow air filter leans it out even more beyond the limits of what the ecu can adapt to. The Fuel X is supposed to address that, but it’s a bit of a blunt tool. Really it would benefit from remapping.
Hi Matt, interesting to hear your thoughts on the Classic, sorry to hear of the issues you found with it, sounds like the dealer is at fault. I was thinking of changing the rear shocks, are yours the ones that have the Allen key adjustment at the top or just the open springs? I find mine a bit of a heave to get it on the stand & I’ve read that a lot of owners have removed the Fuel X module, according to Hitchcocks their dyno showed the best performance was with the cam, decat pipe & just the dna air intake which I think gives it an extra 5 bhp.
Hi Les, my shocks just use a big c-spanner to adjust them. They’re quite basic but better than the originals I think, not super expensive either so a worthwhile upgrade I reckon.
Had a 350 classic exactly the same. Trouble was I also had a 500 classic trials rep running alongside the 350......the 500 won and the 350 was sold. The 350 can't cope with the hills whereas the 500 romps up them. I was disappointed royal Enfield didn't make a 500 on the 350 platform. It would be interesting to hear your views on the guzzi.
Another good honest video. Like your relaxed, no BS style. If you want to take my Classic 500 Tribute Black for a day out and compare that against the 350 and make a video on that, you are welcome. I'm near Hebden Bridge which I know you are familiar with. See video on my channel of the 500 TB. Cheers.
It's a silly question but how do you tie the bags to the pannier? I bought one of these bags from you but I can't tie them the way I saw in the video. The way I do it, it slides around the pannier. I fixed that by using zip ties but yours seam to be stable. Maybe do a youtube short explaining how to tie them :P Cheers
In short I use an extra small strap going from the inside metal hoop on the back, to up and around the grab bar hoop. That seems to stop any extra movement of the bag. If you send an email to matt@classic-rides.co.uk I can send you some pictures that will better show how I do it 👍🏻
The light is really just for aesthetics and I put it on the left side because there's already a lot going on on the right side of the bike. Plus I don't think it makes too much of a difference which side it's on for oncoming traffic to see, it's not really for them.
Hi Matt, not sure if anyone's mentioned this to you but these bikes have a speed governor that kicks in at about 72mph in 4th and 5th. I would guess that is what you are experiencing on the motorway. Check out the forums plenty of info there about this. I love these bikes too.
Hi Paul, thanks for the info but it's a lot more violent than a speed limiter, starts at about 65mph and comes with a strong smell of petrol so I'm assuming it's dumping fuel somehow, and also it can be fixed by rolling off the throttle, leaving it for a few seconds and when you put the power back on it's gone, fairly certain it's the Fuel X module.
Matt is would like your thoughts on the V7 Royal Enfield could also improve the performance of the classic 350 but you may loose some of its charm my old man had a B31 BSA in the mis 70s when I started motorcycling that would hold an indicated 80mph but that was risky as the breaks were piss poor it was more a case of swerve to avoide rather than the breaks pulling you up😂😂
Good vid Matt. Interesting comments. Americans for most part can't change a battery in a clock let alone wire a relay. I've used them 50 + years. Switches can't stand the amps that go through them. That is a good basic motorcycle. I have a few areas here in the mountains I could use one. Crazy the RE dealer close to me wanted to add $3000 dollars to the cost. No. not worth it to me. Same for the Triumph Speed 400. So I don't have one yet. I see their merits very well. I have back roads which I can travel a slower pace fairly safely. Dealers today for the most part don't do a good job. I use a few that do but seems the bigger they are the worse they are. Sadly the small life long dealer is history. Only a few survive today. Every nut and bolt needs gone over and torqued to spec. Same for maintenance items. I've seen inside the RE factory and there are plenty of workers putting components and machines together. They do a lot fast. Quarter million or so bikes a year now when they used not so even a tenth of that. The machine looks great. They knocked out the design. Metal parts well finished from end to end. Most all new is cheap plastic. Do the Moto Guzzi ride. Great bike. Always considered one. Maybe someday. Lack of dealer support around home. Interesting to see how you like it considering you have a Triumph twin. Man that new 1200RS Speed twin looks great. Be safe. All good from east Kentucky USA
Thanks Sam and I agree with you on the dealer thing, my experiences so far have not been great with a number of different businesses, poor service and poor workmanship all for a premium price, it's not too surprising a lot are going out of business. I quite enjoy the Moto Guzzi so far, but I need to ride it a bit more to properly form an opinion. As soon as I do I'll be making a video on it!
@@ClassicRides good the cylinders get in way of my knees some. In my past years of air cooled BMW's Guzzi was always a backup second choice. Also I have a 78 Benelli 750 SEI which has a lot of switch gear, suspension components from the 850T standard model of the time.
I were somewhere on the middle field. The Classic felt too 'classic', the Meteor (Fireball and co) felt too modernish, a bit 'childish'. Then RE released the Meteor 350 Aurora version a year ago, love at first sight. 1500 miles this summer in the saddle after a 10-year break, she gets new treats every month and I don't feel it underpowered - although as far as I know RE scrapped that 72mph lock from this version. Once I accidently went beyond 85 mph, definitely NOT on UK motorway, of course. ;) Later I'd like to have an Interceptor or a Bonneville, but I will keep the Meteor 350 as a bobber-project.
@@ClassicRides Forgot to mention: thank you for your videos, very inspiring, I hope I can do some camping trip next year myself! (As soon as my budget recovered from buying the Meteor :D )
Very interesting non bike review, review. I was surprised to hear about a) the number of false neutrals, and b) that an oil change cured this. But AI confirms this can do the trick. Also sorry to hear about the number of loose items. The dealer I bought my Classic 350 Reborn from may have done the opposite, so that overtightening and liberal use of thread cement made it impossible (for me) to remove the bar end on one side, as I rounded out the hex head completely. A broken drill bit and then even worse, broken extractor, mean that the very nice bar end mirrors are still in their box. The bike will reach 115 kph, but isn't as happy as it is doing 85, but that's fine by me. I don't find hills are a problem. That said, I agree with you that a single cylinder 500 cc would probably have been a hit.
Yes the oil change/false neutral thing makes little sense to me, but I’m not so mechanically minded to doubt my observations. I hope you get that bolt out at some point. I think there’s been some low quality metals used as I’ve also quite accidentally rounded off a bolt, sheered the head clean off a handlebar bolt and threaded one of the mirror holders. I know I’m not heavy handed so perhaps they confused metal with cheese.
@@ClassicRides Haha! It certainly cheesed me off. Apparently the initial oil is maybe of a higher viscosity to protect the engine during running in? The fresh oil is the right lower viscosity one for the life of the now loosened up engine? Anyway I hope you enjoy the bike as much as I do mine ,-)
You might be hitting the rev limiter at around 73mph fella. Fuel x is not needed for filter and cat delete, so I agree to remove it - just runs too rich and uses more fuel. Might be useful in hotter climates when a lean mixture can ause overheating. The headlight needs a better bulb - poss a good quality LED - which will take the load off the charging system as it is not very powerful stock. I love mine though, "Vince" !
Yeah I think an LED bulb and Fuel X removal is the way forward. The surging is quite violent and starts from around 65mph upwards so I don't think it's the rev limiter, plus a strong smell of petrol leads me to think the Fuel X is causing the bike to dump loads of fuel all at once. I'll know for sure once I've removed it 👍🏻
I respect every one's opinion but let me tell you honestly i am in love with my standard 350 2019 with only kicker option ....... my father fullfiled his dream by buying a RE motorcycle ....... but for me i want to buy 2 more RE bikes esspecially a 1995 series bullet and a diesel bullet also ...... Hope one day i will achive it .....
It's got to be the most beautiful motorcycle out there today 😍 but 20hp on European roads would be scary 😨 RE needs to put a 500cc motor in this bike. I ride my Triumph Bonneville slowly around country roads and enjoy the scenery but l know ive got the power to ride anywhere.
Sounds like you got someone’s else’s problems. I bought a new 2022 RE Classic 350 halcyon green and I have zero problems. Dealership put it together properly and I have made some modes as well like dna air filter but I did not decat or use fuel x those were always questionable in the forums so I happily decided against them and sounds like I made a good choice.
I think you've made good choices with your bike. Aside from the warped front brake disk, most the problems on the bike are easily fixable and down to either poor workmanship at dealerships or me adding something questionable to the bike. But none of it takes away from the fact that it's a great bike 👍🏻
nice garage - two vw bullies and a stag. good company for a classic looking bike. :) you really have to love this bike, when there are so many issues out of the box. but your´re right: you get what you pay for. beauties are not always have to be perfect. :D :D in the wintertime i will change my chain kit at the bonnie and i will take 17:40 sprockets because at low speed she´s a little bit restive. someone told me, that this will soften this issue. lets see.
I know what you mean about the low speed jitters with the Bonnie, I've just done the DNK remap and I have to say it's super smooth at low speed now, all the jerkiness has gone even in Road mode (I used to put mine into rain mode for slow traffic).
I'm wondering if it will lose part of the character by being a twin. The Classic is essentially a Bullet with a fancy frock on, and I just can't imagine a twin cylinder Bullet.
Great review. I'm in the US. I have a 2022 Classic 350 and a T100. I live in a rural hilly area. I might like a 500. But, will it be heavy is the question. I like this 350 because it is so light and it has classic character. I'm 73. Only so many more years with my Triumph I fear. I think the new Triumph 400 bike would be perfect for me, but I fear it has almost no character. I'm not sure what direction to go in. I do enjoy this Classic 350 and I think it will always have a spot in my garage. Its the Triumph I am not so sure about. First world problems, eh? As far as mods to the 350. After reading many many reports, I've decided to avoid performance mods. I'm going to leave the motor, intake and exhaust OEM. Other mods? Yes, much like you have done.
It's a nice problem to have I think. I don't really see why the current 350 engine can't be bored out to 500cc, everything else on the bike could stay the same, it'd just have a little more grunt for long hills.
@@ClassicRides Having modified and rebuilt motors, including boring out motors, I am reluctant to do stuff like that anymore. Maybe its my amateur mechanical skills? I don't know. But, I have found that every time I do something like that it kills the market value of the vehicle or bike #1, and #2, it never seems to be as reliable and trouble free as it would have been if I just left it alone. I think for now I will keep my 350 and my T100 and enjoy them both as long as I can just as they are. Sure, I will make non-engine mods but only if they are 100% reversible. If Triumph, or someone else, would build a modern retro with maybe 40 hp and weighing around 400+/_ Lbs. I would jump on it. I bet a lot of people would. Maybe RE will do that? Right now, just like you, I want to spend some more time on my Bonneville while I can. It is a lovely bike for sure. Sadly, our riding season is about to end here in Vermont. I'm planning to put both bikes in storage soon.
@@robgerety I hope you get some rides before your bag weather arrives. Hopefully RE will do the right thing a make a 500 single in the future!
This bike is not for speed ..... but the feel that you get from this bike is unbeatable ❤
I 100% agree 👍
Yes to the Guzzi review Matt. You should do more of them. A refreshing change to other reviews. Excellent video as ever
Thanks Andrew, a little more work needed on my presentation skills but I'm getting more comfortable being in front of the camera.
You have got that modified in such a nice way and in keeping with the style, love that colour , I ride one recently and loved it .
Thanks Mark, they're great little bikes, a lot of fun and style for little money.
Great, realistic review Matt. The best one's come from owners, with no dealer to please. Looking forward to your next video.
Thanks Gary, I agree I prefer reviews from folk that do more than a 20 minute ride before telling you all about a bike 😁
Hey, if this was intentional, no worries! But just in case, I wanted to share a tip: You're not quite using the center stand technique on the RE. The key is to put more force on the stand extension with your leg, while your hand just helps balance as you lean back. Once you get the hang of it, it's super easy! Give it a try - you'll be surprised how effortless it becomes with practice.
Thanks for the tip, it was actually just hard to put on the stand because the rear tyre was flat, normally I don't struggle so much 🙂
Yes, they should have done the Classic 350 Reborn as a 500cc! I agree 100%.
650 coming ???
@@guyrose2239 Yeah. I hear that it is just a 650 Shotgun with some uninsiring changes, but we'll see when it's finally released.
It would have been great!
@@ClassicRides I agree! I bought a used Bullet 500. A bit more modernized version that kept the soul of the 1 cylinder Classic/Bullets would have been amazing.
we need a single cylinder 500, 650cc twin doesn't impress me tbh
Classics are the most beautiful I think
I agree 👌
Great real world review Matt. Had mine from new in April this year, 2200 miles and zero issues…maybe you were just a bit unlucky with those niggles….bin the fuel-x 😎 As a Guzzi V7 owner too I’ll look forward to your thoughts on that bike 👍🏻
Thanks Dave, I think it'd had just been a bit neglected to be honest so a bit of attention fixed most issues. Seems a lot of folk ditch the Fuel X and have a better running bike so I'll be doing that asap. I've only been out on the V7 a couple of times and I've enjoyed it so far, need to few more miles to properly form an opinion though!
@@ClassicRides Volcanic Brown channel bought his 350 classic back from a friend who had done a few performance mods to the bike, he ended up removing them as he said the bike was nicer to ride as standard. I did recently see a video on UA-cam where someone suggested replacing the injector with one of the RE Hunter (a certain part number) that unlocked more performance. I'm not sure how creditable this mod is but does sound like it could be the answer (if true) to unlocking a bit more power.
@@AliasMrHackenbacker I saw those videos by Volcanic Brown, good food for thought; and I've also read up on swapping the injector out as this seems to be the part that informs the speed limiter. From what I've read all you gain is about 5mph at the top end so possibly not worth the hassle, especially since if you're on a incline you can't to max speed anyway.
Excellent!
Really enjoyed that. I think your "non-review" ticked all the boxes. Please do more....
I live in North Manchester and have a stock Hunter 350 and a Gold Star if you want to try them.
Thanks Chris, very kind of you to offer your bikes, if I decide to make 'reviews' a part of the channel I may well get in touch 🙂
Good summary of the bike. Had a lot of the similar niggles. Great to ride at 50-55mph - just find a quiet back road! Yes,the first thing I noticed was the spot light, thanks for the overview of installation. Create kits of these for your website and I think you’ll be on to a winner!
Thanks, I'm thinking about doing just that!
Nice review. I’ve just received pea shooter pipes for my Interceptor so the Classic Rides bags will work better.
That’s great Dave, I fitted peashooters to my Interceptor too, it’s a good look so I’m glad to hear it also makes the bags a bit more useable.
I’ve done most of the mods you mentioned apart from fuel x module, the happy zone for me was the dna/decat pipe with the standard cover back on. I’d recommend keeping an eye on the drive chain, mine had numerous tight spots & some binding links, I replaced it at 5000miles with a did x ring & it became smoother with a better gear change!
I think you might have hit the sweet spot for these bikes, a lot of folk seem to saying that setup is the best 👌
Good summary - and good idea to scrap the DNA air filter, the stock set up is best , especially once it’s run in
Thanks Tom, I probably didn’t give it enough of a chance in its stock form, looking forward to seeing how it runs without the fuel X in it.
Enjoyed the show. Thanks for sharing your thoughts 😊
Hope they were useful 👍🏻
Your feelings are similar to mine regarding the 350 Classic. A ridiculous amount of false neutrals, which have virtually disappeared with miles and oil changes. The LCD panel mists up in warm weather (!?!), fortunately the clock doesn't. The original Ceat tyres are okay but nothing special. Suspension is on the harsh side, even at the softest setting. It's a heavy motorcycle for its capacity, though doesn't feel it on the road. However the bike is more than the sum of the parts, and the engine improves with every mile, to make a sweet little unit. Biggest bugbear for me are the tubed wheels, which look great but are a complete pain to live with not helped by Royal Enfield's old school mudguards and idiosyncratic design. Just fixed a rear puncture, so I know. I'd definitely think twice before embarking on a solo tour.
I've serviced my Classic from day one and risked invalidating the warranty. Too many stories of basic work being left undone and schedules missed, plus it's a simple bike to work on. I don't know if Royal Enfield's UK labour rates are unrealistic, or dealers think it's a cheap bike that's not worth fussing over. There are accounts of very large mileages being accrued on some 350s, so the design is basically a sound one and rewards a little tlc.
Totally agree, it's a lovely bike with a few niggles but nothing major to worry about, and for the price they're hard to grumble about.
Change out the tyres the Ceats are ok but i had over 8000+km on mine loads of tread but we’re feeling like they were worn out even though they still looked fine, and having been a Ducati rider for the last 20 + years 8000km on tyres is strange to me, I had metzeler road tec’s fitted everything felt better, braking and suspension I’ve gone up 3 clicks on my rear suspension as my wife is a regular pillion and run the chain slightly slacker for the same reason, I had forgotten what a good set of tyres do for a bike, made the Ceats feel like I was riding on hoops of concrete, but I agree with you about the tubed tyres and the limited tyre choices for the classic, I’ve even thought about a set of Htnr / Hunter wheels and some Michelins ? For me that would make my classic just about perfect, Pete🇫🇷
@@PeterHolland-mu7yn There are examples on UA-cam of riders changing spoked wheels for tubeless alloy on their Classic 350. This suits the plainer models more than the old school variants. There is an alloy wheeled Classic available in some markets, not sure if it made it to Britain.
Hi Matt,
Thanks for your thoughts. Here in Australia, you can pick up either the classic or Bullet 500 the longest models are around 2021 for $15000 with a sidecar or from $11000 for a black edition. Then, going down from there.
It’s good you have choices, a 500 with a sidecar would be perfect 👌
You have to fit a relay to the bike. The bulbs in the lights draw anytime from 55w-80w, and the resistance in the wiring will melt the outer sheath and short out, resulting in wiring damage!
You wouldn’t believe the amount of folk who questioned me on the necessity of a relay 😁
Enjoyed the review and found I had some of the same issues with my C350 you’ve noted - loose bolts, etc. Like you I de-cated, installed the FuelX, did the 500 mile maintenance - and the performance just wasn’t what I needed to be safe on our USA roads. Hills were a challenge too - especially when loaded. I changed the main sprocket but took it off as it didn’t help much. I considered installing the cam to get more power but decided to trade it in and wait for a 650 which I think should be excellent for this style and weight of bike. Hope it’s here soon! Great video per usual. Cheers from NE Ohio USA 😎
I can totally understand that, as a bit of a toy it’s brilliant but for a lot of folk like yourself it’s not going to cut it. The Interceptor is great though, I’m sure you’ll love it 👌
Thanks for this video. Hope your elbow is better soon. Looking to seeing you out and about
Thanks Edward, hopefully won't be out of action for too much longer 🤞🏻
Yes to the Guzzi Mat, great vid
Thanks Wayne, I’ll get a few more miles done on it then a short ‘review’ will follow 👍
Great review love your "talkies "
I to ride a small 20hp daily ride as yours it's fine until it smells a slope good job I live in the fens !!!
But boy when you get back on the t120 it's a superb feeling for sure
The enfield keeps your channel interesting for sure matt well done
My wife was facinated by the way you got all the camping gear aboard
Keep up the good work
Thanks Ian, we're the opposite here in the Peaks, there's virtually no flat ground anywhere so you're either going up or down at all times 😁
The T120 felt like an absolute beast after being away from it for so long, so much power compared to the 350! And yes, it's amazing what you can fit on a bike with a bit of strategic packing.
Excellent video!
The bike camping trips as well.
Where did you get the C shape pannier rails?
Nice low sitting bags!
Thanks, I got my pannier rails from Hitchcocks Motorcycles, but I think they're a general shape so you should be able to find them from a number of places, including RE themselves.
@ClassicRides thanks much.
I am still here and watching. Thanks for the videos. Keep them coming. Just a couple of things to put right on the bike. Yes, upgrade the headlamp bulb halfords do some sensible priced upgraded bulbs for motorcycles. Some people have fitted LED bulbs to save power as the alternator isn't overly powerful on these bikes,so don't be surprised if you get a flat battery at some point with the extra lamp fitted. As the charging over time may not keep up with the extra required.
The surging you talked about,make sure the relays haven't been over greased as from new they are, and they make the relays play up. Also it is actually worth upgrading the relays, too. Might be worth looking to see how many teeth your front sprocket has, some people fit an extra tooth sprocket as they think it makes it go faster, it doesn't and these bikes like to be rev-ed and makes it work a little better on hills as standard. Quick question: Why did you wrap the decat pipe? I have a good ceat rear tyre if you need one 😊
Thanks David, I’ll definitely check the relays, thought I’d cleaned them out properly but perhaps I didn’t do it well enough. And I’ll be doing the led upgrade to the bulb too, the spotlight doesn’t seem to drain the battery too much, I did 3 hours with it on with the high beam on also and everything seemed ok (don’t think I’d risk my heated jacket too though!).
The wrap is for two reasons, mainly the heat shield rattles a little against the decat pipe due to a dodgy bolt; and also keeping a bit of heat in the exhaust can’t hurt the gas flow out.
The bike was pretty much untouched when I got it so I can’t imagine the front sprocket was changed, but I’ll check it anyway, thanks for the tip!
True, in the city we hardly go over 70-80 kmph but on the highways you can easily hit 120-140 kmph where the lack of power is so in your face. But on the other hand if it had more power if would probably not be this fun to ride at low speeds and probably also over heat in traffic and of course low fuel efficiency. So overall the 350 is the perfect balance for our conditions. Also those problems that you mentioned regarding the loose and dirty parts its definitely dealers fault, ive got three classics in my friends group and none of them had these issues. And yes the first oil change just transforms your bike, its unbelievable.
Yes I agree, none of the problems are really RE's fault, the dealer's putting the bikes together should have sorted them out. Wonderful bike once it's run in properly though!
Great vídeo 👌 you have good taste on bikes. I own the same bikes T120, Classic 350, and Guzzi v7. And I love to know what you think about V7 stone. Sorry for my english. Saludos desde México ✌️
You own the perfect trio of bikes! (your English is perfect btw!)
Matt, you've mentioned before that you hate speaking on camera, but from this side of the screen I don't think you have anything to worry about.
And you're still tempting me with the RE, I'm thinking of one as a bit of a project, something I could slowly turn into a bit of a classic trials lookalike for some gentle green lane pottering.
That’s an excellent idea, I’m thinking of doing the same with mine!
I would love to hear your thoughts on Moto guzzi. Particularly your thoughts on the dry clutch and its other unique characteristics. I like your honesty about the RE. Have you ridden the hunter 350.
No I haven't ridden it, would be interesting to see how different it is to the Classic. Need a few more miles on the V7 to properly form an opinion, but once I've got one I'll report back in a video for sure 👍🏻
Thanks for covering the additions to the 350, especially the auxiliary light. I'm an American, and I understand the value of the relay in the harness. Not sure what the issue is with others. Anyway. I've been looking forward to this video and appreciate your effort. Cheers.
Glad you found the video useful, I know Americans don’t really have a mental block around relays, I was just being a bit facetious about the coincidence 🙂
No worries, Matt. I get facetious. Sometimes, you just have to go there. 😉 That said, I appreciate your honest assessment of your Classic 350 experience. There are rumours about that a 650 Classic will soon be released. Some have already been photographed in the UK. This should be interesting.
@@kevindaly5093 Yes I'm hoping RE will officially unveil the Classic 650 at the upcoming bike shows, will be interesting to see it in the flesh.
"Don't do bike reviews..." and shares a great video about his bike. Well done also for the bike mods Matt, it looks awesome! 👍👍
Thanks Nelio, I'm just not massively comfortable talking in front of a camera, maybe getting slightly better at it as time goes by! 😁
@@ClassicRides you don't look so Matt, therefore its a massive improvement. 👍
Fantastic Matt, really enjoyed the review….thanks.
I’ve a 2016 classic 500…have a false neutral happening on it too so will probably have to investigate…it’s only done about 2.5k miles so low mileage for an 8 year old plodder.
Interested in which bar end mirrors you bought…they look ideal and aren’t wider than the bars which is what I’m after so would be grateful if you could let me know.
Go well and thanks again
Thanks, glad you liked the review. I imagine your 500 will get better with a few more miles on it; the oil change and really pushing the bike past where it felt comfortable seemed to do the trick for me. The mirrors are from Hitchcocks Motorcycles, I don't think they had a 'name', but if you search their online catalogue I'm sure you'll spot them.
@@ClassicRides many thanks …I shall take a look at their site 👍
Cheers Matt. Good to hear your honest common-sense opinions and about your upgrades.
I tried to find a maroon Bullet 350 recently and can't! They are all sold out in advance of the new Euro5+ bikes, apparently.
I totally agree a 500 single would have been awesome (I find their 650 twin feels a bit 'modern' and boring). Maybe next year! (But I don't think so...)
But I think I will give a Bullet a go when I can find one. I test rode one and loved it apart from I could barely get it to 60mph, but I'm hearing from just about everyone that after a few thousand it is much more reasonable (and that new air filters, plugs, etc help).
Yes once the engine's broken in they're much more useable, and I have to say if a maroon Bullet had been available when I bought my Classic I might not have bought the Classic.
Great review 👍 I installed the cam on mine, and the bike ran even better. I think the fuel x system does more harm than good.
A lot of folk saying that about the Fuel X, definitely going to take mine off. I've heard good things about the cam change too but I think for me I'm just accepting the bike for what it is, if I want big power I've always got the T120 🙂
@ClassicRides the cam is more of a have fun tinkering kind of thing. You don't really gain huge power. it just runs better overall. Also, now that you put on the decat pipe, try going back to the original filter with the fuel x to see if it works better. I think having too much air flow is causing the ecu to have problems, especially with the fuel x.
Great review mate!! Everything you said was on point. Also the issues you mentioned for the bike are things to be really considered but you know it’s an royal Enfield, issues like unwanted noises from brakes and loose nuts and etc are inherited issues from it’s older generation to this current one 😅
Also what engine oil would you recommend for this bike?
And about the gears I’ve the same issue like downshifting is fine but whenever I shift from 1st to 2nd gear it’s always gets neutral, after pushing the gear level 2-3 times it shifts to 2nd.. this problem does not happen every time but whenever happens it just irritates a lot 🥲
I used Silkolene 15W-50 Comp 4 XP oil, seemed to do the trick for the false neutrals.
Hope you get yours sorted as they’re a lot better when you’re not swearing at your left foot 😁
Yeah I heard about it the same, does it still happen in 2024 j series engine? Planning to get one in a couple of weeks-ckassic350
@@nevermind714 Yes, my 350 is a J-series. Seems less common than on the older generation bikes, but can still happen.
Yes! Review of MG would be appreciated. I personally have T120 and as a second bike I’ve chosen V7 which is perfect for daily rides but has some issues and can’t compete with T120. So not sure now if V7 was the best choice in this price range (maybe Kawasaki z650rs would be better?).
I have to ride the V7 a bit more to form a proper opinion, but so far I like it. As you say though it’s no T120!
I've seen many reviews of the classic 350, most of them idealizing the mentioned defects of this bike as "discovery of slowness". It's not only the best classic looking bike on the market, it's also performing like an old bike, underpowered, with few stopping power and dark light, but lots of shining chrome. A very honest review Matt, thanks for that. As you say, a good base for improvements. Could a transmission change compensate any of the lacking power, i.e. changing sprockets/pinion?
I don't think there's a vast amount left in the engine to be honest, I suspect RE have built it for longevity rather than power so other than going down the road of changing the internals of the engine there's probably not a lot of gains to be made elsewhere. Still a very useable bike but I think bored out to 500cc might made it a touch better for faster roads.
Great video. I have and love the 350 classic
Thanks Steve
Hi Matt, I have the same mods on my 350 dna, decathlon, fuel X lite. I experienced the juddering/surging both before and after the mods. I realised the surging was in top gear only and have concluded the surging was due to the bike trying to jump out of gear. I have since modified my gear change into top gear with upward pressure before the shift and a longer more deliberate upward push. I think the travel into top gear is further than any other gear. Since modifying my gear change I have not had any surging! Thought I would share to see if it works for you.
That's certainly interesting, I'll have to bear that in mind next time it happens. Mine seems to be throttle related as far as I can tell, releasing the throttle completely then coming back on seems to cure it, but I'll definitely look to see if it's related to gear change as well now.
Morning mate, my classic did not loosen up till I clocked up 2500km now goes so much better but I agree 10 - 15kph more top end would be welcome, but having been a Ducati rider for the last 20 years I appreciate the relaxed nature of the ride or I’m getting old.
The front brake warped feel I had reported it to my dealer here in France when I took it in for a service and new metzeler road tec tyres, Fanch checked the callipers and gave them a service and with the new tyres which were I noticed seated on the rims properly the front brake problems gone, tyres or callipers ! not sure which cured it, but fine now, no warped disc pump feel, having a great dealership helps one you trust mine is a mom n pop shop they are also riders of their own bikes, important to me, ….. Pete 🇫🇷
That's interesting info on the 'warped' front disk feel, perhaps I'll wait until I swap out the front tyres and see if that changes anything. Thanks for sharing your experience, now all I need to do is find a garage I trust!
Thanks for pointing out the bike issues as these mostly appear to be from a lack of dealership assembly and service quality rather than original manufacture.
Yes I’d agree with that, there’s no criticism of Royal Enfield really, the bike’s issues were mainly due to the dealers/previous owner.
Seen a couple of these around Plymouth and the bike nights. Look great in the bronze chrome. Nuances aside it’s a lovely stylish machine.
They are indeed, and I think once the niggles are sorted I reckon it'll keep going forever.
Love this!
Thanks 🙏
Enjoying your UA-cam content Matt also your stills on Instagram, I have done the same mods to my 350 and also added a Kent cam, great bikes! I think a few more talking to camera films would go down well, looking forward to the next. Keep up the stylish work.
My last ride was brought to an early end with a rear puncture, needed a new tyre as well as inner tube, all done now, back out Monday 👍
My puncture is a little strange as it holds air for about 10mins before going flat. Looking forward to getting it fixed.
Cracking video. I find my classic runs better and faster when the engine is proper hot and loosened up. Gearbox is better than my t100 but my clocks have the same issue as yours. Wish there was a storage facility like that near me in Shropshire. 👍
Thanks Trev, I'm lucky that the Tame Valley is littered with mills from the old cotton industry so there's usually space to rent if needed. I'd still rather have a proper garage though!
Hi Matt. Great videos, thanks for sharing. I’m 45 and want to get into riding? How do I start? Also - best beginners bike - Interceptor 650 or Bonnie 120?
If you’re in the UK, first step would be to get your CBT booked and go from there; it’s a long process!
You could go for either bike really, the Interceptor is probably more beginner friendly, the T120 is quite a powerful bike but it can be done if you’re careful and don’t have a clumsy touch.
And yes please for a Guzzi review
I’ll do my best 👍
In my sixties I noticed i was slowing down to the annoyance of my mates until the only chat between us was my speed so i thought fuck this and bought a classic 350 now I ride alone and love it
Riding with mates is great, but there's a lot to be said for hassle-free rising that comes with doing your own thing 😁
I drive the same bike and I love it. He’s slow but I don’t mind. In France the speed is limited. Enjoy
It's definitely greater than the sum of its parts.
I'm installing the Future Eyes F2 spot light-fog lamp (2x60 watt LED) on the OEM engine guard, functionally it works great as per my other ADV bikes. But visually, it looks out of place with the classic look of my Meteor 350.
For my future reference, what is the size of your fog lamp? 3,5 inch or 4,5 inch in diameter?
It's a 5 inch light 👍🏻
It’s relaxing even when you are not camping 👍🏻
I am the epitome of low energy 😁
love your helmet .Which one is it?
Thanks, it’s a Hedon Hedonist helmet with a Biltwell peak 👍
Hi Matt, initially, I fitted the fuel lite, free flow pipe and the dna air filter. I have gone back to the stock pipe and removed the fuel lite. Running better without them. May have to check if reducing flow makes a difference. I love my reborn 350 . I think they plan to release a classic 650, so we will see. Thanks for sharing you thoughts.
Thanks for the info Mark, a lot of folk seem to be saying the same thing that their bike runs better without the Fuel X. I'm hoping there'll be one of the new Classic 650's at this years Motorcycle Live. be great to see one in the flesh.
I fitted all the above mods to my Meteor but went back to ‘stock’. Coastrider Scotland did a comparison while on a ride with his fully modified Classic 350 & a friend’s stock bike- there was no difference between them. Conclusion was to save your money for fuel, which, from my experience I would agree. Other issues you mention such as speedo & front disk would make me wonder if your bike has been a warranty donor, due to stock shortages, for example?
@@johnrutherford4276 Yes I saw that video, unfortunately after I bought all the new parts for my bike! I think putting it back to almost stock is the way forward.
I don't think the bike was used as a parts donor, some of the issues seem fairly common and the others I think are just due to the bike not being looked after properly.
Very cool clip Matt...I'm sure potential buyers would be very interested
Speaking of shonky assembly....my 2nd bike is a Ural outfit 🥴
Wish I could afford a Ural! Think it's more to do with the dealerships to be fair, I'm not sure they want to put the effort in on a bike that's so cheap.
@@ClassicRides yep you're right about the Enfield. I got the 2016 Ural with 6000 klms...so big saving on new. But the quality control apparently has been improved heaps. I reckon a Himalayan with a 650/750 engine would be great
Would definitely enjoy your style applied to a review of your friend's Moto Guzzi
I’ll do my best to get one sorted 👍
My Signals Classic does seem to like a few revs too 😀
Yep the relay takes the current and the switch just operates the low current side of it.Makes perfect sense.
It's all better for your fingertips if it decides to short through the switch ⚡️
if you turn the handle bar towards you with your left hand, put your right foot against the centre stand, and your right hand on the bike grip/frame, just roll it onto the centre stand, you won't hurt your back..
I know how to lift the bike thanks, it had a flat rear tyre which is why it was hard 👍
The fuel injection "learns" by monitoring the O2 sensor. You shouldn't need a after market fueling. That may be for a closed course without O2 sensor. It needs to sit and idle for about 5 minutes, no throttle. Then operate it normally.
This bike’s engine has been designed to run extremely lean in order to get through Euro 5, adding a free flow air filter leans it out even more beyond the limits of what the ecu can adapt to. The Fuel X is supposed to address that, but it’s a bit of a blunt tool. Really it would benefit from remapping.
Hi Matt, interesting to hear your thoughts on the Classic, sorry to hear of the issues you found with it, sounds like the dealer is at fault.
I was thinking of changing the rear shocks, are yours the ones that have the Allen key adjustment at the top or just the open springs?
I find mine a bit of a heave to get it on the stand & I’ve read that a lot of owners have removed the Fuel X module, according to Hitchcocks their dyno showed the best performance was with the cam, decat pipe & just the dna air intake which I think gives it an extra 5 bhp.
Hi Les, my shocks just use a big c-spanner to adjust them. They’re quite basic but better than the originals I think, not super expensive either so a worthwhile upgrade I reckon.
Had a 350 classic exactly the same. Trouble was I also had a 500 classic trials rep running alongside the 350......the 500 won and the 350 was sold. The 350 can't cope with the hills whereas the 500 romps up them. I was disappointed royal Enfield didn't make a 500 on the 350 platform. It would be interesting to hear your views on the guzzi.
I'm a big fan of the trails 500 and have wondered a few times if that's the bike I should have bought.
Another good honest video. Like your relaxed, no BS style. If you want to take my Classic 500 Tribute Black for a day out and compare that against the 350 and make a video on that, you are welcome. I'm near Hebden Bridge which I know you are familiar with. See video on my channel of the 500 TB. Cheers.
Thanks, that’s a kind offer, your Tribute is a beaut!
It's a silly question but how do you tie the bags to the pannier? I bought one of these bags from you but I can't tie them the way I saw in the video. The way I do it, it slides around the pannier. I fixed that by using zip ties but yours seam to be stable. Maybe do a youtube short explaining how to tie them :P
Cheers
In short I use an extra small strap going from the inside metal hoop on the back, to up and around the grab bar hoop. That seems to stop any extra movement of the bag. If you send an email to matt@classic-rides.co.uk I can send you some pictures that will better show how I do it 👍🏻
Nice video.
Matt
Thanks Chris.
Why you put the extra lamp on the left ? Surely it should be on the right for oncoming traffic to see !
The light is really just for aesthetics and I put it on the left side because there's already a lot going on on the right side of the bike. Plus I don't think it makes too much of a difference which side it's on for oncoming traffic to see, it's not really for them.
Hi Matt, not sure if anyone's mentioned this to you but these bikes have a speed governor that kicks in at about 72mph in 4th and 5th. I would guess that is what you are experiencing on the motorway. Check out the forums plenty of info there about this. I love these bikes too.
Hi Paul, thanks for the info but it's a lot more violent than a speed limiter, starts at about 65mph and comes with a strong smell of petrol so I'm assuming it's dumping fuel somehow, and also it can be fixed by rolling off the throttle, leaving it for a few seconds and when you put the power back on it's gone, fairly certain it's the Fuel X module.
Which kind of engine oil did you use to fix the false neutral problem ??
It was a combination of factors really, but the oil helped a lot. I used Silkolene Comp 4 XP 15W-50.
Matt is would like your thoughts on the V7 Royal Enfield could also improve the performance of the classic 350 but you may loose some of its charm my old man had a B31 BSA in the mis 70s when I started motorcycling that would hold an indicated 80mph but that was risky as the breaks were piss poor it was more a case of swerve to avoide rather than the breaks pulling you up😂😂
I agree with you there, a little more power wouldn't be a terrible thing though. If I want big power I'd just take the T120 to be fair.
Good vid Matt. Interesting comments. Americans for most part can't change a battery in a clock let alone wire a relay. I've used them 50 + years. Switches can't stand the amps that go through them. That is a good basic motorcycle. I have a few areas here in the mountains I could use one. Crazy the RE dealer close to me wanted to add $3000 dollars to the cost. No. not worth it to me. Same for the Triumph Speed 400. So I don't have one yet. I see their merits very well. I have back roads which I can travel a slower pace fairly safely. Dealers today for the most part don't do a good job. I use a few that do but seems the bigger they are the worse they are. Sadly the small life long dealer is history. Only a few survive today. Every nut and bolt needs gone over and torqued to spec. Same for maintenance items. I've seen inside the RE factory and there are plenty of workers putting components and machines together. They do a lot fast. Quarter million or so bikes a year now when they used not so even a tenth of that. The machine looks great. They knocked out the design. Metal parts well finished from end to end. Most all new is cheap plastic. Do the Moto Guzzi ride. Great bike. Always considered one. Maybe someday. Lack of dealer support around home. Interesting to see how you like it considering you have a Triumph twin. Man that new 1200RS Speed twin looks great. Be safe. All good from east Kentucky USA
Thanks Sam and I agree with you on the dealer thing, my experiences so far have not been great with a number of different businesses, poor service and poor workmanship all for a premium price, it's not too surprising a lot are going out of business.
I quite enjoy the Moto Guzzi so far, but I need to ride it a bit more to properly form an opinion. As soon as I do I'll be making a video on it!
@@ClassicRides good the cylinders get in way of my knees some. In my past years of air cooled BMW's Guzzi was always a backup second choice. Also I have a 78 Benelli 750 SEI which has a lot of switch gear, suspension components from the 850T standard model of the time.
I were somewhere on the middle field. The Classic felt too 'classic', the Meteor (Fireball and co) felt too modernish, a bit 'childish'. Then RE released the Meteor 350 Aurora version a year ago, love at first sight. 1500 miles this summer in the saddle after a 10-year break, she gets new treats every month and I don't feel it underpowered - although as far as I know RE scrapped that 72mph lock from this version. Once I accidently went beyond 85 mph, definitely NOT on UK motorway, of course. ;)
Later I'd like to have an Interceptor or a Bonneville, but I will keep the Meteor 350 as a bobber-project.
Glad to hear you’re enjoying your Meteor, there’s definitely a bit more power in the Classic than RE allow, but not much 😁
@@ClassicRides Forgot to mention: thank you for your videos, very inspiring, I hope I can do some camping trip next year myself! (As soon as my budget recovered from buying the Meteor :D )
El sonido de la Classic queda en los videos genial
Thanks, it sure does sound good 👍
Very interesting non bike review, review. I was surprised to hear about a) the number of false neutrals, and b) that an oil change cured this. But AI confirms this can do the trick. Also sorry to hear about the number of loose items. The dealer I bought my Classic 350 Reborn from may have done the opposite, so that overtightening and liberal use of thread cement made it impossible (for me) to remove the bar end on one side, as I rounded out the hex head completely. A broken drill bit and then even worse, broken extractor, mean that the very nice bar end mirrors are still in their box. The bike will reach 115 kph, but isn't as happy as it is doing 85, but that's fine by me. I don't find hills are a problem. That said, I agree with you that a single cylinder 500 cc would probably have been a hit.
Yes the oil change/false neutral thing makes little sense to me, but I’m not so mechanically minded to doubt my observations. I hope you get that bolt out at some point. I think there’s been some low quality metals used as I’ve also quite accidentally rounded off a bolt, sheered the head clean off a handlebar bolt and threaded one of the mirror holders. I know I’m not heavy handed so perhaps they confused metal with cheese.
@@ClassicRides Haha! It certainly cheesed me off.
Apparently the initial oil is maybe of a higher viscosity to protect the engine during running in? The fresh oil is the right lower viscosity one for the life of the now loosened up engine?
Anyway I hope you enjoy the bike as much as I do mine ,-)
Classic 650 is new love.❤
It’s a good looking bike 👌
You might be hitting the rev limiter at around 73mph fella. Fuel x is not needed for filter and cat delete, so I agree to remove it - just runs too rich and uses more fuel. Might be useful in hotter climates when a lean mixture can ause overheating. The headlight needs a better bulb - poss a good quality LED - which will take the load off the charging system as it is not very powerful stock. I love mine though, "Vince" !
Yeah I think an LED bulb and Fuel X removal is the way forward. The surging is quite violent and starts from around 65mph upwards so I don't think it's the rev limiter, plus a strong smell of petrol leads me to think the Fuel X is causing the bike to dump loads of fuel all at once. I'll know for sure once I've removed it 👍🏻
@@ClassicRides Sweet, hope it fettles it for you brother
I respect every one's opinion but let me tell you honestly i am in love with my standard 350 2019 with only kicker option ....... my father fullfiled his dream by buying a RE motorcycle ....... but for me i want to buy 2 more RE bikes esspecially a 1995 series bullet and a diesel bullet also ...... Hope one day i will achive it .....
I hope you get to own the bikes you want too 🤞
Absolutely agree a Classic 500 J Series engine would be my dream.
Seems like an easy win for RE, really don't know why they haven't done it.
@@ClassicRidesbecause emissions. It is easier to meet requirements when the engine is smaller
@@judassson You're probably very right 👍🏻
They're going to release a classic 650 though with a parallel twin engine. But the single cylinder thump is definitely something else.
It's got to be the most beautiful motorcycle out there today 😍 but 20hp on European roads would be scary 😨
RE needs to put a 500cc motor in this bike.
I ride my Triumph Bonneville slowly around country roads and enjoy the scenery but l know ive got the power to ride anywhere.
Agree with you 100% Mike, the 500 would have been ideal.
I think you should start selling spotlights as a side brand Matt ;)
It’s in the works 😁
Sounds like you got someone’s else’s problems. I bought a new 2022 RE Classic 350 halcyon green and I have zero problems. Dealership put it together properly and I have made some modes as well like dna air filter but I did not decat or use fuel x those were always questionable in the forums so I happily decided against them and sounds like I made a good choice.
I think you've made good choices with your bike. Aside from the warped front brake disk, most the problems on the bike are easily fixable and down to either poor workmanship at dealerships or me adding something questionable to the bike. But none of it takes away from the fact that it's a great bike 👍🏻
nice garage - two vw bullies and a stag. good company for a classic looking bike. :)
you really have to love this bike, when there are so many issues out of the box. but your´re right: you get what you pay for. beauties are not always have to be perfect. :D :D
in the wintertime i will change my chain kit at the bonnie and i will take 17:40 sprockets because at low speed she´s a little bit restive. someone told me, that this will soften this issue. lets see.
I know what you mean about the low speed jitters with the Bonnie, I've just done the DNK remap and I have to say it's super smooth at low speed now, all the jerkiness has gone even in Road mode (I used to put mine into rain mode for slow traffic).
@@ClassicRides did you send your ECU to them or did you do the ECU flash on your own?
@@rramirrezz I did it myself, it's pretty easy to be honest, you just need the right equipment.
What a good looking mechine ❤
Thanks 👍
I have a Classic 350 Chrome Red one, amazing machine. I still miss my 500 though, some lowlife stole it.
Glad to hear you’re enjoying your 350, but sad that someone took your 500, some things just can’t be replaced.
💯 Guzzi V7
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Nice one Matt, Enfield's looking well, T120 still my favourite. 👍👍
Mine too, but it's hard to knock the Classic for the price.
Did you ride classic 350 ever?
This is literally a video on my Classic 350…
Very watchable for a "non bike review" review!
Thanks Simon! 👊
Classic 650 launching in a month (Nov24) 😊
Yes I'm looking forward to seeing it!
I'm wondering if it will lose part of the character by being a twin.
The Classic is essentially a Bullet with a fancy frock on, and I just can't imagine a twin cylinder Bullet.
@@AlexOnABoat I think a 500 single is the bike we all want, surely RE can't let BSA have that segment of the modern classic market all to themselves.
Honda has made a better version cb350
We can't get those in the UK so couldn't possibly comment 🙂
I agree with what you said about thrashing this bike a little bit.. the engine definitely frees up after few thousand kms of sensible thrashing 😂
You have to abuse it to use it 👍🏻