Why do PRF vs PRP? |Is it worth it at all?
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- Опубліковано 22 січ 2022
- My first advanced procedure! What are they? What is the difference?
Why do them?
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PRP means Platelet Rich Plasma and PRF means Platelet Rich Fibrin.
WHAT ARE THE TREATMENTS?
Both of these treatments will take the epidermal growth factor out of our own plasma and re-inject it back into the skin to help increase the skins thickness, increase skin's luminosity and help minimize the signs of aging by increasing the production of fibroblasts. Fibroblasts are responsible for Type I collagen production in our tissue.
So the main reason why I decided to pursue these types of treatments was they can help increase your body's ability to produce collagen. I have a lot of fine lines under my eyes I which is why I thought I would start there. The investment was $200.
Although there are some similarities between PRP & PRF it is the differences between these two products that makes the PRF stand out as a superior treatment option.
Essentially both procedures require blood to be drawn and placed in a centrifuge when the blood is then processed to help separate the blood into distinct layers.
PRP
PRP is spun at a higher speed which allows for the lighter platelets & plasma to collect in the top part of the test tube. The platelets and plasma are then collected from the upper part of the test tube & injected back into the face.
PRF
The PRF is spun at a lower speed so that the layers of the blood are not as distinct which allows some white blood cells and stem cells to remain in the platelet layer that is collected for treatment. There are more healing factors within the PRF than is typically seen in the PRP. The lower spin speed causes less trauma to the individual cells of the blood allowing more stem cells to remain in the final product.
ANOTHER DIFFERENCE
The concentration of platelets also varies. The ideal platelet concentration within a PRP sample should be 2-5 times the level of platelets typically found in the body. However newer research states that the concentration sample taken using PRF is 10 times the concentration amount found in the body.
FINAL
Lastly when taking a PRF sample no anticoagulent is used during the processing of the blood. With PRP the blood collected is placed in tubes that have use a anticoagulent which keeps product from clotting too quickly. This helps to keep the PRP as natural as possible.
RESULTS
Results can take up to six weeks and l continue to improve over the next 3-6 months. These results can last about 6 mo's to a year.
FREQUENCY
It's recommend 2-4 times to really continue to see those results.
WOULD I DO IT AGAIN?
Yes I plan on doing this agin. Yes there was bruising but that is easy to cover and temporary. I've seen a large enough improvement in the skin under my eyes that i feel it's worth continuing.
Put in the comments your thoughts! If you have had this procedure or a similar one I would like to hear how it turned out for you.
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I’m almost 3 weeks in from my first treatment and in 5 weeks going to have my second treatment - I love the science behind this. Slow and steady wins the race with prf ☺️
That’s great!! I definitely agree 😀
Hi I’m also going for PRF next week, is it worth? Does it improve fine lines and wrinkles
@@prabjot2832 Absolutely! You may need a few treatments to see results BUT they continue to improve for 3-6 months after initial session.
@@winningagingskinwithalison Hey, so I'm going for my 2nd tx. tomorrow. I hate to say that the "results" I saw were probably just from the plumping affect but then it went away and I can see my dark hollows again :-( They are probably as bad as they used to be, sadly to say. Just wondered if anyone else experienced this and if they go away after a few treatments?? I'm concerned b/c I'm spending a lot of $$ to not see any results. I'm doing the PRF gel which is supposed to be better/longer lasting over time. I'm not thinking it's all that TBH. :-(
@@firstklasshealthandwellnes1077 Ugh I hear your frustration. I don't know if PRF is the best for hollows as opposed to filler. However know you are still increasing your skin's production of collagen and elastin which is still a good thing!
I absolutely love PRF.. I have seen incredible differences in my skin , my under eyes, just my total face is all over better. I do this treatment myself ( I have mother has been a nurse her entire adult life so she has been so beneficial to me with explaining and showing me the way to draw my blood for the PRF. The time I have to spin the blood and how to keep everything extremely sanitary.
I have always loved the effects I received when doing micro needling so when I added PRF and saw Improvements with using a natural product that my body produced I knew this was right choice comparing filler and other skin boosters with PRF.
Do you inject the prf yourself? Or microneedle it or what? Pretty brave if you inject yourself, even with PRF!
Whow great! As I already wrote in the comments, I was at my doctors office for PRF and she created a vally and mountain landscape under my eyes which lasted about 2 months! After they dissapeard I saw no benefits from PRF. I wonder how you managed it, congratulations!
Very informative video!!!! Thank you for sharing!!!!!!
Yeah I’m
Glad you found the content useful! Are you considering this treatment?
I was PRF patient n°1 at my doctors office, unfortunatelly I didn't know that! The result were mountains and valleys below my eyes. Finally after 2-3 months they dissapeared BUT I had no positive effect in any point of time. Here in Germany PRF isn't known that well yet. So I tried PRP. After the first PRP treatment I didn't see any improvement, it's known that you have to do it more often. I give it a try at least once again.
Maybe one session is not enough. And you can check what lessens prp.prf's effect: bad nutrition, omegas 3, anti inflammatory drugs...
I feel like results vary depending on the quality of your red blood cells and platelets. Quality will depend on your food intake and lifestyle choices. There’s probably some genetics involved too.
Brilliant point!
Excellent point!! I appreciate your input 👍🏻
PDO is something you could look into as well for better results, just a suggestion. Thank you for your video.
Yes I’ve done that as well thank you! What about you?
@@winningagingskinwithalison yes I did and it is worth it and was painless because my injector used lidocaine first. I had it done over 1 year ago and it was extremely painfully and was never going to do it again until she said that she injects the numbing agent first. What a difference!
@@dominiquew.8181 Yes the threads to have a bite! My NP does it but only uses topical lidocaine which is tolerable but I’d probably like the injection better!
PDO threads do not address skin texture like fine lines, wrinkles and sun damage.
I just had PRF done yesterday and I have no bruising because the technician used a cannula to inject the prf which is zero bruising or if there is, its at very minimum. I'm happy with the immediate result.
That's awesome! Keep me posted on your progress:)
Where did u get it done?
@RamonaGaudillo in Las Vegas. If you live here let me know
Hi new subscriber. Thanks for sharing, I loved this! I had PRP done twice about 6-7 years ago. Had a lot of bruising but I was happy with results for about a year or so. The T also did RF device after the treatment. I have hollows under my eyes and I don't really think it helped that much but overall I liked it. Bruising is a killer though!! I found a new Therapist who uses both PRP and PRF and she said in her opinion (she is a nurse too) that some people like one or the other. Personally she prefers the PRF but it doesn't work as well on a few people. They go back to PRP. So I'm on the fence as to which one I will get. She has a machine that does BOTH. I'm not sure if that's the way it's meant to be done or not. She said PRF is a smaller vial so I might just get my eyes done with it. Did it help with fine lines (crow's feet) for you? Just dreading the bruises but lots of tips down below in comments. Thank you 🙂
My therapist also said that you get slightly more bruising with PRF as opposed to PRP.
@@TheMijas07 Yes I definitely see an improvement. I still have wrinkles & crows feet but they're minimized. However, I am a big user of Retinal around my eyes too as well as peptide eye reams. All will address crows feet. hard to if one thing is doing the work. It's prolly a combo. I would do PRF again despite the bruising. I didn't know that PRF was a bit more aggressive ugh anything that works usually is lol
@@winningagingskinwithalison Thank you - that's good to know! Retinal I could never get on with or tret or anything like that. I really did try in different ways. Peptide creams are good. Do you have a favourite? I switch around but make sure to keep the area well hydrated. I'll update in comments when I eventually get to doing the PRF.
Try EZ gel PRF filler for the hollows
@@sherriscorner2015 thank you. Have you tried this yourself yet?
Thanks for sharing your journey!
Does PRF help with hollows at all, or do you think filler is the only thing? I’ve done PRP and it definitely helps to rejuvenate/heal the skin, but does nothing for hollows.
Glad to hear that PRP worked for you! And you are correct fillers are still the best option for hollows. Have you heard of Sculptra? I’ve not had this done but it’s similar to PRP in that it uses your own fibroblasts but lasts 2-3 years. I wonder if that would address hollows.
@@winningagingskinwithalison Thanks for the quick response! I haven’t. I heard the original restalyne was a good option because it doesn’t attract as much water as other fillers.
My concern is the filler migrating in my face. Part of me wants to just save up for surgery instead of filler, but if I could find a safe and realistic filler option that would stay in place for a while, I’d do that while looking into surgery! Lol
@@f3042 I didn’t know that about Restalyne thank u for mentioning. If I hear of another filler option I’ll send to you😀
@@winningagingskinwithalison Good deal, thanks! Be well!
@@winningagingskinwithalison no Sculptra does not do anything to the hollows or under eyes. I had it done. Sculptra just helps your own body produce collagen that's it. You need 3 sessions to see results. I am planning to get my second treatment soon. I have also done filler under my eyes and it did nothing! I had the PRP done for the first time just 2 days ago. Let's what happens there. Just sharing.
Thanks for sharing
This video was posted 2 months ago; would you say you are having good results now? I’m excited to try this!
I do see some slight improvement on the skin underneathe my eyes. However, to see results you need a few treatments. It's similar to microneedling, typically a few treatments are needed to see results since we are working w/our own body's natural production of collagen and elastin. Let me know how it goes for you! I didn't use topical arnica which would have helped w/the bruising FYI something to consider.
Hello..i was wondering if PRP was painful? I was thinking of getting the treatment done. Worried about the brusing and swelling. Do you have helpful tips? Like using ice on your face ?
You are numbed for the procedure but can still feel tiny pokes. Definitely tolerable and the procedure itself is pretty quick. You can use ice to help minimize swelling and everyone is different as far as the bruising is concerned. I did have quite a bit but it also depends on the modality used. For example my esthetician didn't use a cannula when she placed the Fibrin back into my skin. I was told that would help significantly. And you can apply an arnica gel that also minimizes bruising. I didn't use that for this procedure but have for others and it works well. I was able to cover my bruises w/foundation and color correcting concealer too. It took about two weeks for the bruising to fade. I hope this helps! Let me know if you move forward with it:)
@@winningagingskinwithalison i will do the procedure..alittle nervous but hoping it improves my skin
Yes
Thank you for your video. I prefer to listen to someone in my age group. I may have missed, but did you just have the one procedure when you did this video?
Prp is the process that needs anticoagulant, please refer to ncbi-in response to last comment.
I'm not sure about this, it's something I've never had done, but seriously I had a mini face lift in the office by a verynskillwd surgeon and it was nothing. He did a fabulous job, no pain, scarring around the ear, couldn't even see. So I believe that sometimes a surgeon is the best corrector for many of these issues if you want to look the best you can. I had that done younger than most, but again I can't deny the fabulous results I received. I've also had an anterior brow lift, mind you, none of my surgeries have made me look deformed or look like I've had work done. I get told by many people how beautiful I am and truly appreciate their compliments. I continue upkeep with dermal fillers which I love and ultrasound therapy. I'm just trying to figure out what this actually does? It seems microneedling could substitute this?
Glad to hear you've had success w/a mini face lift! It's better to do that when we are younger as a preventative measure too aging. Microneeding is used when doing PRF in order to get the fibroblasts from your blood back into your skin. Microneedling by itself does't typicallly require a blood sample. That is the procedural difference BUT yes they both do the same thing in the sense we are trying to increase the production of collagen & elastin in our skin & keep skin youthful:)
I guess the question I'm asking, if they both produce collagen (the PRF with your own fibroblasts) which procedure garners the longest results, straight out microneedling with radio frequecy, or PRF microneedling? How many sessions?
@@Chanel15477 Based on what I have read online the PRF has been proven to be more effective in the long run, and the number of sessions depends on a few factors, your current age and what is the desired end goal. It looks as though most medical professionals recommend 3-6 sessions per year. I feel like this is a treatment that could be on-going with once the initial 3-6 are done, maybe 1-2 would be sufficient for maintenance. Not sure if that helps!
@@winningagingskinwithalison Mote effective at what? Improving skin texture, volume, removal of darkness around the eyes, I'm not understanding. I had two vials of sculptra done at one time, and I asked her why, she said why not? I later found out, you have to find out how much collegen your own skin will produce after the first vial is initiated. I didn't know this at the time. Personally, it's more of a communication issue than anything else. If you want alot of fullness it needs to be discussed and most of these injectors are terrible communicators. I would take 2-3 treatments of filler, one per month, than wait on a sculltra result, that's just me. I'm a seasoned customer. Although, I will say that it could be the way its re-constituted. If they aren't formulating it correctly you won't get enough product. I say this because my friend had sculptra and looked over-filled for a few months, then it settled and she looked great. It just seems If you want something to last lips, cheeks, whatever, you need to be a little overdone at first. Finding just the right amount of over done can be a difficult task. 🙃
Prp facials improve the skin firmness and texture. Obviously some people need to also address the skin laxity, which is why face lifts are right for some people.
My clinician ask me for using their product for atleast 3-4 weeks prior to start PRF. I mean is it really important or they are just mucking around to sell their products only because Its just normal retinol, niacinmise, vit c which I am already usin? Thoughts please or if your clinicial ask you or anyone in this group who have done the PRF already. It would be very helpful.
Thanks heaps every one who ever is going to help me with their answers or thoughts.
Cheers you ladies😀😀
Hmmm...my clinician didn't suggest that for me prior to treatment. If u already have that in your routine, not sure if you need more. The only thing I can think of is that the percentage of Vitamin C, Retinol or Niacinamide might be higher & they want your skin to acclimate to it.
Where do you order your vacutubes? Without additives and no anticoagulant ? Specifically for prf. I can’t find them anywhere.
I’m happy to ask the NP that performed the treatment & get back to you I was just a willing participant😉
How long does the end result last for??
Could you do an update if you continued since it’s been 6 months? Have you done it again? Thank you
Yes I would be happy too!
@@winningagingskinwithalison awesome thank you. Looking forward to it
PCL ( gouri, rejuran i..) jalupro eyes. PN are all great alternatives to filler and tox
I have not heard of these. Can you share more?
Have you been taking any supplements or collagen to help with healing?
Thank u for asking! Yes collagen is a staple in my routine. Are you considering this treatment?
Billy never answered ☹
@@55Porter Hopefully they will 😊
How much was your procedure?
I had PRP a week ago..its my second treatment. its been 5 days.. my swelling is gone but my under eyes look dark..when can i see a difference.. the first time i got it i looked good after a week. but this time.. it seems to looks darker.. is this normal.. and should i give more time? to let it heal
Definitely give your self about 4 weeks to fully heal, there could be some bruising that is causing that area to look a little darker. Topical Arnica gel could assist w/any bruising.
Just had done and I'm freaking because one eye bruised bad. Trying arnica external and internal.
So sorry your eye is so bruised! give it time I had good luck w/using the Arnica topical for bruising i experienced in other procedures. Let me know how it goes!
I had serious bruising with Belotero under my eyes so will never do that again. She did laser to help with the healing. I don’t smoke or drink either. Looking into Prf but leery of it since I bruised so much.
Did you use arnica the next time and did it decrease the bruising ?
I have used Arnica for other procedures & it definitely did minimize bruising. I still onl had the PRF done one time. Are you considering it? I still love my results!
@@winningagingskinwithalison thanks ‘n yes I’m conceding it but having bruising for 3 weeks seems a bit much of a downtime and I’m worried about that :(
@mynameis211 : Arnica gel (3x a day), mixed with Manuka honey was amazing. Absolutely no bruising & cannula needle stick sites healed darn near next day.
Is there a risk of and artery clog as in fillers?
Based on what I’ve learned on. PRP or PRF there is minimal risk at all except for site infection which is extremely rare. Are u thinking about doing this?
No risk of occlusion as it’s your own bodies’ product
You mention using Arnica topical. Which one to use?
The Boiron brand was recommended by a medical professional. I've been using their Arnicare Bruise Gel and found it to help minimize length of bruising. I bought on Amazon. If you use it lmk how it works for you:)
@@winningagingskinwithalison SWEET! Thanks! Have the PRF scheduled for 5/20 so really want to try this for that!!
@@firstklasshealthandwellnes1077 You do! Awesome I want to see hear al about it:)
@@winningagingskinwithalison Will do! Just ordered it :-D
@@winningagingskinwithalison I'm amazed...not a SINGLE ounce of bruising!! Not sure why but I used Arnica tablets (3 x's/day) for the first 5 days and then used the gel twice a day for the first 2 days. NOTHING...not even a tad bit of bruising! Again, not sure if this was due to Arnica or what but I'll do it again for next time! Do you notice the results getting better over the next couple of days/weeks or when do you notice the under eye "bluishness" goes away? I see mine is MUCH better and this is day 2, but I still see some blue and wondered if it gets better as time goes on?
Are you oppose to fillers or more Undereye procedures?
Not at all, if I did anything under my eye it would be botox. Actually I think that could address crows feet maybe not bags. What about you?
I’m researching & looking into these procedures. Wanting safe absolute solutions for under eye.
did you get an increase in volume in the area where you had the treatment done?
I most certainly did.
You should’ve had them use a cannula you wouldn’t of had any bruising or downtime
I will do that next time thank you!
How would I know I’m getting prf not prp ?
So sorry for delayed reply. Did you have this procedure done already?
You just tell them which one you want (difference is how fast they spin down your blood vial in the centrifuge. That differenciates if they draw up plasma layer or fibrin layer from the blood vial, before they inject)
i do my own mesotherapy and microneedling without numbing
Thats awesome! How deep do you needle at home?
@@winningagingskinwithalison just shallow but i use peels too.....threads sculptra hanheal meso etc
@@mirandasworld oh my gosh! Where do you get your Sculptra?
@@dl9118 you can get all the products online that they do in office and the equipment, i do the treatments for friends there is even your own prf machine for only 300 dollars and sculptra is like 140 dollars
@@mirandasworld Where exactly on line? I am so excited!
Seems a lot of downtime for not really noticeable results
Yes I agree. This treatment is one where results are not immediate.
You need several treatments of prf in order for it to be effective. It’s not immediate results like filler.
@@bnb0510 yYou are correct definitely need more than one treatment. I’m prolly doing it again this Spring. Are you considering this too?
@@bnb0510 prf takes longer to show results but the results last for years and are potentially permanent.
@@winningagingskinwithalison Would you mind sharing the approximate amount you paid for a treatment?
sorry but better do an eye lift. bags are still there...
lift makes them go away for 90%
Yeah I didn’t think this would completely resolve under eye bags. 😊
Eye lift and fat transfer the best
PRP less risky than under eye filler?
Yes! However it’s important to do your research on the medical professional you choose to do the treatment. See their work & reviews.
@@winningagingskinwithalison Cool thanks for the advice.
@@lisaray101 Absolutely lmk how it goes for you😀
Thank you one more thing, getting PRP applied topically instead injections for dark circles is it safer?
I would like to know you age to put everything in perspective.
I was 51 when I did this treatment. I haven’t done more since though I’d like to. Have you tried it?
i did not see big difference in the before and after. -Did you
The difference is definitely slight but this is one of those treatments that require multiple before truly seeing a difference. I think I read 2-3 more times is most beneficial.
There is difference. The difference depends on how bad your signs of aging are. The more minor the signs of aging the more difference you'll see. These treatments like PRF certainly work and produce results for the next six months plus.
@@hopeislandful Yes I believe they do too. It's a slower result process for sure.
How many sessions did you do?
I only did one. In order for this to be more effective & long lasting 3-4 over a year is best. Have you tried it?
I just had it done, but now I have two little lumps :( did you experienced anything like this?
@@mo8160 hmm..the only thing I experienced was bruising. Are they sore to the touch?
I'm surprised, that you did micro needling with PRF, instead of PRF injections... I heard injections are much more effective 😱💅
Yes if I do it again I will have her use a cannula so it won't bruise as much :)
Wow. You went through those pictures pretty fast. Didn’t have enough time to see anything.
I appreciate the feedback! Next time I will slow the pics down for better viewing:)
I cannot see any difference …before and after shots need to have same lighting and no facial expression ..otherwise you cannot see difference. I e smiling in one and other is no expression .. irs only commonsense to do this otherwise there is NO comparison
Is this filler
Hello! This treatment doesn't use filler. It's a process that involves spinning your blood in a centrifuge and carefully removing the platletes rich in firbrin and reinjecting back into your face.
The Fotos are useless when you show it with Makeup
Thanks for you feedback I thought I had some w/out but I see I could’ve added a few more.
Unfortunately, you explained things wrong...PRF is the one who needs anticoagulant and you need to move fast. Short time in tge centrifuge and low speed.
Hmmm..I definitely don't want to put the wrong info out here! However, I double checked and my research did indicate that PRF was done the way I explained it.
@@winningagingskinwithalison you stated PRP.
@@winningagingskinwithalisonprf is spun at 1000 where as prp spins at 2-3000
This is all bs & scam.
Save your money.
Oh no!! Why do you say that?
wanna know your Instagram handle so i can ask my questions