I just feel the deck needs better protection. Definitely takes a lot of effort as far as set up goes. But wouldnt feel so bad if your Maste can at least be a bit more resilient afterwards yknow? This deck immediately folds to source stripping and de-digivolve. Scapegoat being only active while being specifically [Angel] archetype also sucks. Scapegoat without the archetyping would be a huge help for the deck.
The idea behind it having limited to no protection is that it's a purple deck. Yeah, you can get rid of my cards with little effort, but they ain't gone forever.
0:15 Blue lol Also, super sick video idea! I love to theory craft cards and effects, so diving into why certain things struggle and hypothesize fixes for those problems is awesome.
Jamming in a nutshell Blue was balanced by the fact that their Digimon typically had low DP so you could easily swing over them, but that’s not really the case anymore because of all the new attacking hazards
Arguably... it's identity. The deck is unique where Examon aside its the only jogress/dna deck that required 2 lvl 5's to get its top end. Making it slower but with what was supposed to be a strong strategy element allowing for removal or going wide. With Chaos Degrade still being a great removal card its to high cost and takes space from the Ace card that does something similar with a body on board. I would also argue that being the level 5's are kind of stretched thin as support being they are split between several archetypes (angel, demon lords, Lilith, etc). Making consistency as well as strong support hard to produce without over catering to other decks. Maste would be solid for generic support but would also be hurting as well with patamon having created as much animosity as it did. There is also the jumping through hoops to verify is this that or is that this. The deck could use cheaper evo to speed up getting to the boss but you would then have to work around other problems being mainly...it does what everyone else does. edit: you can offer a meiri that allows the starter deck gato's on play to work as when digivolving but you'd be pulling a bit from hina and making the deck more dependant on tamers to speed it up. You can give the deck unique feild or option cards but you'd be pulling from nso, royal base, and possibly three musketeers. You can try the double digimon but that feels more in line for Terriermon/Lopmon support down the line as an experiment (had some push back with that due to pokemon tcg stuff when I suggested it). The deck genuinely just needs its own support dealing with the over all theme of time and space.
Everything you mentioned here is spot on. Level 3 searchers, Gatomon that can play Mirei, dual color anges and ladydevis. The two of them on one card is a fantastic idea, I had thought of a similar idea one time, styling them as the next line of special Digimon cards after ACE cards, calling them DUO Digimon. But yeah, Mastemon always seems to get the short end compared to Imperial, who always gets support within a set or two of Maste getting support. I can only assume someone at Bandai has a vendetta after getting stalled out by Mastemon's peak back in BT9-BT10. I also really want to see a Mastemon that gets Partition, cause I mean come on, you show us all these cool Partitioning DNA Digimon back in BT-16, and then but one set later release a Mastemon that doesn't have it? Booooo. Also bring back BlackGatomon into the synergy pool too. I don't want "Holy Beast" synergy, I want "has Gatomon in name" synergy. Please Bandai, I swear it won't break the game to give Mastemon a little bit of power to play with. We are out here having to play 4-d chess just to make the most mediocre of plays.
Long post here. I'm a Maste player and I'll tell you most of what is the problem at the lower end but the deck has bigger problems. 1. No mirei that's a memory setter. This makes all those plays of giving your opponent a lot of memory to break your board. Hardly matters how many bodies you put up when your opponent when they'll just beat you especially when most decks can clear board before attacking. Another big problem is a lot of work for mediocre pay off. The starter deck maste is still the best but once on board unless you play a body off flame hell scythe, she does nothing. Then there's the lack of partition , especially when ex6 release around 16 when it was introduced. To summarize, maste problem "too much work too little pay"
You hit the nail on the head in regards to too much work with little pay out. Arguably a partition mastemon would have already been huge enough. I think this was partially avoided to allow for DNA BLAST EVO. Which is unfortunate. I don’t think a memory setter is absolutely necessary because the tamers for mirei are already really good. A gato that plays Mirei would help with 1 or less tamers
I built digitally a mastemon deck dog / anubis based a while ago, teching anubismon and everything and I've never felt more powerful in my life playing a deck, it felt wrong, like I fixed something I didn't even wanted to touch as I'm not a maste player nor even a purple player (having like 15+ decks, none of them purple). But please I encourage people to try it out as jogress resets "ganining memory by playing by effect" inherit abilities (and mastemons play by effect) making it much more memory efficient
in my opinion biggest thing that is holding back mastemon is some slight changes in wording or color on some cards. the deck has a lot of tools bandai just seemingly does not want half of them to work with the other half the ex6 level 5s should read “if you did not play a mirei by this effect” instead of “if you already have mirei in play”. this would mean that if you don’t have a mirei at all the card isnt basically a vanilla. the salamon and gatomon from ex6 should have been purple and yellow. this would allow for more flexibility in level 5s, which imo was the intention of the deck in the first place. if they feel salamon would be too strong just change that to “a different” instead of “a” for its memory gain condition. as for future cards, i do agree that a dual digimon card would be really cool, but i think it’s strange to be able to digivolve into it in universe wise. i’d have it as like a 7 cost to play purple yellow with no capability to evolve from 4s, name treated as [angewomon/ladydevimon] then choose one of something like recovery 1 or delete a level 5 or lower mastemon could also use a “miraculous mega knight” type option. big issue with the deck is having mastemon stick around. you can kinda do that with domini now but thats a while thing to have set up. basically give the same effect as mega knight but make it 4 cost and play a gato from hand instead
A few changes after thinking about it. All Salamon's should have end of turn DNA's. Gatomons should have varying degrees to play Mirei. One from security, one from hand, and one from trash. Cover all your bases. Play Analog Youth too why not. Dual color level 5's, and a partition Mastemon. Done.
i feel machindra need something like this, a lv4 or lv5 who can play analogman or a new analogman or a option that reference analog curse, or maybe is bandai have fear of ex1 machindra xDD
In the best only 2 but you don't have any card to recovery in 2 turns. Well you can scale but the machindra with when evolve are... Meh. Yes one of them can add analog and put 1 machine cyborg but trash the rest hurt if you want use a tech... Them the machindra millenium is funny but that is all... Have an on delete to revive a lv 5 or lower and an herency only if you want do a meme tech xD Oh and the Chaosdramon... Well ex3 is the best. Chaosdra x can help and the soc is tech xD
@@Mekaizer The new cyberdramon ace is pretty good for finding and getting out your analogmans, plus has a good inherited effect. Cheap to play, digs 5 and plays and de-digivolves if you hit or already had one Obviously ace overflow can be an issue, especially if dealing with things that trash digivolution sources or against removal heavy decks, but it's solid support
You touched on the issues, but also missed some other glaring issues this has vs other DNA digivolve decks. 1. No memory setters: While both Mirei can gain one memory, neither set it to three and can cause you getting choked out. 2. Lack of recovery: You lose the stack you get nothing back and have to build again. You don't even have any form of protection so once you play your Mastemon you are just hoping you can swing from there. Even worse with the Blast Ace losing you memory when it leaves the area. 3. Lack of general support: Unlike say any of the Tamer 02 digivolution lines you don't have any real support outside of the intended lines you help you build up. You can't really splash in a Hawkmon to help you get your stacks going. People have tried Lucemon support, but that only works for the older Mastemon and not the Blast Ace version. These are some of the problems I have seen trying to get the deck to run. Other minor issues are the conflicting support for Angels and Fallen Angels as you can't try to focus on both or needing dual colour levels 4s to support older versions of Angewomon and LadyDevimon who have single colour requirements.
Few things to consider. Even imperial decks rarely utilize a memory fixer but imagine this as well. A Mirei that plays a gatomon for free once per a turn and then returns it to the hand end of opponents turn. I think generally lack of protection is another. Mastemon is a well designed Digimon but its support is just too expensive
(Salamon) -Color: Yellow/Purple -Play Cost: 3 -DP: 1000 -Digivolve: 0 on Nyaromon / 1 on purple or yellow -On Play: Reveal the top 3 cards of your deck. Add 1 Digimon with (Angel) or (Holy) in one of its traits, and 1 yellow tamer to your hand. Trash the rest. -Inherit: When a card is added to your Security, (Draw 1). The above card I just described is all I want for a Mastemon/Magnadramon deck. I don't know why Bandai is so adverse to making something so simple, but they are. (Edit: updated the card's info to better reflect the entirety of its functionality.)
@DIGI-PANDA I would say reveal 3 cards from the top of the deck and place trash the remaining cards. This way you get your much needed search while creating synergy for cards like BT16 Gatomon and Mastemon.
So despite everything, I still run yellow Kari Kamiya memory tamer that suspends to gain a memory when a card was added to security. If anything, along with sala searchers I’d like a Mirei memory tamer who “suspends to play out Ladydevi/Angewomon from hand, trash, or sources when Mastemon/yellow and purple digimon is DNA’ed.” Either that or “suspends to give Mastemon/yellow purple dna uneffected by digimon effects.” Basically I’d want the possibility to have two ace targets with 1 dna/another dna potential from off of one mastemon dna for more board wiping. Dominimon being able to spit out shit loads of digimon that he can just straight up protect inspired this idea mostly because I run into the issue of people just wiping my field despite having a Mastemon and Ace potential on the field with lady/ange. Otherwise, I just want to be unaffected too. Tired of just getting out flanked easily by Imperial just suspending, source stripping, and bottom decking for half the price I pay to play this game. Also I’d like a new level 7 that’s strictly for the deck. Maybe a Mastemon X, Ordinemon with protection/ace, or something new entirely. Really hate splashing in Shinegreymon stuff especially since I still don’t own ruin mode. Maybe a lvl 7 yellow/purple dna that “unsuspeds all your tamers and gives dp minus -6000 per tamer unsuspended.” Iunno, something crazy like that. Give it some if it would be removed from the battle area clause too like “if it would be removed from field, play out 1 yellow level 5 and 1 purple level 5 from hand, trash, or sources.”
At this point, immunity for Digimon has a few specific clauses. 1. The Digimon cannot attack - in the case of Belphemon and Mother 2. They're Royal Knights Because Mastemon is in neither of these categories, likely she won't get protection - but partition? That would be nice.
If we consider the other DNA deck that's competitive, Imperial, the answer is memory efficiency. The dual Digimon card and making them double color is a great step forward, but the biggest aid would be the gatomon that plays mirei. That would let you get to lvl6 in a turn. Also partition on Mastemon was very much needed.
Honestly, yeah. My theory is that, being the face of the line since Kari’s Gatomon rarely became Salamon, Gatomon is the searcher. However, they don’t give much for Gatomon to do to be easily brought out. And Salamon gets next to nothing so the entire archetype is in this weird limbo. All of your ideas are great. The Salamons especially since the best the deck has access to is the bt16 one that only really works as a plan b. Duo Digimon cards could be interesting if they worked like Dual tamers in the “this is treated as one and/or the other” way. I’ve wanted to have some more tamers that were Digimon in the same vein as Arukenimon and Mummymon. It would work wonders for villain lines like Mephistomon, Argomon and, especially, something like Murmukusmon. Great content. I do hope that, one day, the DCG gets a switch game.
I cant comment on the state of masta cause i dont ever really play it. However i love this content idea panda looking forward to maybe some more of these kindda vids if time allows at least.
@DIGI-PANDA for now only once i can come up with that could use some love is shakamon ( journey to the west ) the older cards just dont fit the theme well and dont work great in the deck so it could use some new cards that help its game play. Also would love to see some new 4 great dragon stuff i really like how the deck play cyceling through great dragons to make a really powerful goldramon effect trigger but again older cards and could do with some retrains ( also both current stacks do somewhat of the same thing could do with some more diverse effects ) Hope this helps :)
I've played a bunch of different versions of Mastemon. The single most important problem with the deck: There is no real synergy among all the Maste cards. They are all bits and bobs of various pieces, pretending to be a cohesive whole. And every time that a new Maste piece comes out, the power creep outdates half the deck. Such as, if the starter deck Gatomon came out today it would grab a digimon, a tamer, and be On Play, AND When digivolving. So you are always playing a deck that is half out of date.
This I also strongly agree with. And looking at more support cards today, it seems Bandai is moving to the route of cycling out old support. None of the new leomon cards digivolve for cheap on the new accel support cards
Maste and machinedramon both need some love. Dual color level 5s for masta would help as well as a good searcher level 3 and a good egg. I feel like the options and the top end are good but its missing the bottom end to give it that extra bump. Machinedramon is my other deck, I think it needs a good level 4 and either a machinedramon ace or a chaosdramon ace. I know it got support in the last set but it felt clunkier.
I wanna have this discussion because as someone who played mastemon. The deck and archetype has many of issues. I due agree we need a lot even if we the most competitive deck out them. I just want the deck to be playable with less issues or at least things she can have access to that the other do. 1) dual colors cards especially with this deck suppose to focus on both yellow and, purple support. I love to see the digitama be dual color to help even the starting turn issues. I also agree angewomon ladydevimon not being dual color slows down things too. We need searchers cause the only lv 3 searchers Are tsukaimon and, salamon. Neither grab tamers, they get everything else but they have limits too. 2) memory support even tho mirei from BT11 gives 1 memory it's not enough at point. I personally would like a mirei that jumped the memory to 3. 3) massive removal especially when most decks have massive removed before getting to level 6. We don't have it tell lv 7 (odinemon and, shinegreymon ruin mode [which I don't own at all]. Chaos degeneration is nice but it's only 1 shot removal.
Mastemon is, in my eyes, one of the fairest archetypes that currently exists in the game. It's boss card is still relatively strong despite being a card being, what, 2 years old now? It's strongest plays are still pretty good. It's support has all been pretty decent making it's strong plays easier and more consistent with every wave while not breaking it while also giving it new utility by giving inherits like your entire board getting blocker and retaliation in bt 11 and Mastemon getting alliance and scapegoat in ex 6, plus a new Ace that's a little better than most originally thought imo. All of this is to say that I don't necessarily want Bandai to change how they have designed the archetype. It has it's flaws to be sure, but I'm generally fine with those flaws sticking around. At most, I want a new baby that can maybe make yellow base feel better and a way to play Mirei for free even if you already have one on the board. Both Mirei are very strong so I understand why they limited the amount of Mirei you were allowed to play for free, but I don't think the limit was fully necessary. Getting two free Mirei probably ain't gonna break the deck.
As a long time mastemon player, I dont think the deck needs more search , between the 2 Gatos, bt11 angewomon and the boost I think its enough, what I do think the deck needs is 3 things: 1. Better Inheritable on the lvl 3s and 4s and laydevis, I find the retaliation doesn't really do much, most of the time my opponent isn't swinging into my stuff because of other reasons (big blockers and ace), scapegoat is a bit better but I would rather my maste die and keep my lvl 5s alive so I can threaten ace, then use scapegoat to save a maste thats doesnt do anything. The lvl 3s and 4s almost do nothing. 2. The second issue, maste doesn't do much by herself, the ace is fine because its an ace, but the st10 maste doesnt really do anything now days, without any cards like luce or tk/cody, all she does is play a lvl 5 and delete a lvl 5 or lower, even with those cards you get a bit more removal range but still quite weak imo with how much work you need to play her , compared to things like velgrmon. I constantly find the deck super strong when I have dominimon out and wish maste had its effect, because dominimon almost does a similar thing of playing a lvl 5 to setup aces and removes most lvl 5s. I think maste herself needs some sort of protection/float to make her worth the effort. 3. And now for my hot take, I dont like SR mirei, it only working when there is 1 digimon in play and costing 5, make it extremally clunk to me. its good when you are very behind, but outside of that its doesn't really do much, people will say that there isnt enoguh tamer removal in the game but there is enough that you feel it in maste. The lvls 5s dont help because I find the SEC Mirei so much better to get out and combo with because it does something no matter the board state. A memory setter Mirei would be nice but since we can only every cheat 1 mirei out Idk if would be better then the SEC.
Mirei in general I feel like is good but only good if both are out at the same time. In regards to better inheritables, I agree! I didn't want to dive too much into inheritables because frankly they could be anything. And the next question is do we want protection effects? Do we want Mastemon to have partition? So many options.
I don't really like the idea of dual digimon cards, it could be something but I think that it should be a "special" thing like in Pokemon with the GX Pokemons or something like that. And I think that giving a lvl3 searcher and a lvl4 Tamer-player to Mastemon would make the deck like all other decks. Digimon tcg always worked hard to make all color type decks feel unique, and while red, blue and green NEED a searcher and a tamer-player because they focus on attacks, other decks search and play cards in other ways. Purple usually recycle cards from the trash and yellow plays with your security, you could give Mastemon cards abilitys to play tamers from trash/security (like geogreymon) and trash cards from your deck and then recycle them in your hand, I think Mastemon could feel more consistent like this without losing her unique play-style.
I don’t mind uniqueness. It’s more so a you have to spend so much memory to play just one tamer or play Angewomon to play said tamer. Then afterwards if you want to play the second Mirei you’ll have to do it of your own accord
@@DIGI-PANDA It would be cool an effect that goes like: "On play/When digievolving - Trash the top 3 cards of your deck. Then, play 1 Mirei from your trash without paying the cost." Or like: "On play/When digievolving - search your security, play 1 Mirei without paying the cost. Then, shuffle your security and recovery +1" A little broken as effects but you can make them work by increasing the play and digievolution cost by 1. The inherited could just be "Retaliation" and "Barrier"
To me, I think the deck need better protection for the ST-10 gatomon early, a way to add pieces quicker, or make the Lv. 5 Angewomon/LadyDevimon more resilient to removal, or easier way to cheat out more mireis. EX6 Angewomon/LadyDevimon is nice but only allow to play one off the effect. Most of the early game, you kinda have no choice but to hard play the gatomon to find pieces. Though, due to how easy it is now to remove Lv. 4 or 4000 DP, the Gatomon will guarantee to die if you go second, sometimes survive if going first. And with the good inheritable/play/digivolve/ effect Angewomon/LadyDevi being 6000 DP, they are way too easy to get popped with most meta cards recently, which makes it much harder to play the ACE Midgame is generally okay as long as you have both Mirei ready with decent trash setup End game is really good with very high recursion, depends on the cards you have, it’s very possible to kill 5 security and win at once. But that early game though… it’s really rough when you don’t dee the pieces.. in a highly brickable deck
I could agree to a level 3 searcher but i think that would ruin the uniqueness of the deck compared to others DNA decks. I agree with some of the other comments asking it to have a better payoff for what it costs to bring it out. The new Examon card looks to make that thing virtually a game ender once it comes out as a reward for putting so much effort to build it. Comments about making it more resilient would be a better payoff for it too since not only is it Yellow/purple, to resilient and recursive colors, but also it was always positioned to be the more defensive tactical starter deck over imperialdramon's aggressive combo playstyle. It would fit pretty thematically.
Interestingly, we have an Angewomon and Ladydevimon that gains memory when one or the other is played (respectively). But I do wonder what if we had effects similar to the Exveemon and Stingmon that when they DNA together you gain a memory? Because that makes blast digivolution even more obnoxious.
I just want to ask if it would really unbalance the game to make the EX6 Angewomon and Ladydevimon just say you can choose to play the tamer or use the effect every time. So many other things play tamers all day, but my favorite archetype gets the most lackluster one since Kurisarimon, and we're considered lucky we even got that.
I don't think the Mastemon players want to hear this but I think the deck having access to too much protection would be broken. Considering that it's one of the best decks to be able to consistently use Chaos Degradation, an option card that circumvents many forms of protection, probably even most forms of protection, would create completely unbalanced gameplay. Tho the consistency of scapegoat absolutely needs to be improved in the deck, it's a little too easy to take out a Mastemon as things are now. Partition playing out two level fours is already kind of nuts, now imagine it's instead two level fives that are just a little too big to be taken out by a ruin mode. Maybe something more like decode would be more balanced, combined with your suggestion of a duel coloured and/or named level five would fit the need of the ace variant.
having ladydevi and angewomon be dual color is a bit if a flavour fail, gatomon is dual color because it goes inti either, kinda like choosing a side. however dual digimon is somethig i have thought about and Defnetly want to see in the future
56 comments after just 16 hours is crazy , The comments cover it almost all the point I would add since mastemon is a trash reliant an easy way to fill the traash with a key cards is also good to the deck
I know that Yellow/Purple Angewomon and LadyDevimon won't be happening soon because Bandai doesn't want to have people use the same Mon. It's probably the reason why Shakkoumon went from Yellow/Blue to Black/Yellow. But I wouldn't mind a Dual Digimons as long they don't overdue it. Lopmon and Terriermon could be one of them along side of Jogress deck. Adventure Agumon & Savers Agumon shouldn't be one soon.
Feel like you glossed over the fact that Mastemon is a boss monster from BT8 whose best combo piece is Lucemon, an unsearchable out-of-archetype card. Mastemon Ace isn't even strictly better since it doesn't interact with Lucemon and Blast DNA is a fragile mechanic, not to mention losing so many resources plus overflow when it dies. If Takemikazuchi is allowed to exist, we can get a new Mastemon card whose power level actually reflects the current state of the game.
I feel like Lucemon falls under the unintended interaction. And while it isn’t searchable, via newer stuff you can with the starter Gato. Overall, I’m not saying these are the only things that can fix the deck but bring about discussion
Digipanda I don't know if you are a Digimon fun or only a tcg fun but the reason why are angewo and ladydevi that plays mirei and gato is the searcher instead of salamon is because the partner digimon of mirei are angewo and ladydevi, not the pre evolution. Since the tcg is really bonded with the real lore of the franchise, they filled the decks with lv4 and 5 only for gameplay reason, so I think that this is the reason of the deck being like this.
I understand that. And I get it. I know Mirei was only partnered with the level 5s but regardless the issue at hand is the amount of memory you need to spend for the payoff for a Mastemon stack. No protection. No partition. Frankly if that’s the case ignoring gato and sala then I’d be looking for option cards that are much cheaper that can play your angewomon or ladydevimon for a reduced cost or for free.
@DIGI-PANDA Yeah, maybe that is a way. But, you know what? I want to trust bandai, if you look at the new examon's support in BT20 they are making it really faster and the amount of memory you need is less, not very less but surely useful. So I think that someday mastemon will be very great ^^
I think expecting every deck to get a lv3 searcher ends up being boring, for example the new reveals for bt-20 are good but they all look cookie cutter, salamon not being the searcher can let them make lv3s that can go into gato easier, like the bt-16 one, what really sucks about the ex6 ange and lady are the fact that you can only play 1 mirei for free, while now new support lv4s can play up to 2 on the field, it feels extremely bad to be almost immediety powercrept about 1 or 2 sets after release, a dual shared card would be amazing even if it costs more, a good on play like removal or stun to play with mastemon's effects and an inheritable to protect maste would be amazing. while def custom a unqiue training like they did for pulsemon for mastemon that could just play a gatomon or salamon and get the inherit upside for cheaper than it would be to hardplay the 5 cost gato
I won't say you hit the nail as the others. Comparing Omni/Grey/Garuru (which all are different decks) with any deck is a bad idea. 1. I had ~20 cards in hand before decking out, so no more searchers please. Not all cards must be searched, is part of the strategy while deck building and while playing, in Mirage you won't play Gaomon BT11 if you only need a lv5 and your deck has 4 Huankunmon and 3 Zudomons. I'm pretty pleased with Gatomons. 2. No need to compare dual tamers with dual Digimon, that's horrible, why I won't be able to use that single card fot DNA then? Any deck isn't meta by 2 reasons: Speed and/or Field Control. Mastemon isn't the best in any, but is good enough for both. To be tier 1 instead of 2 it will need something to gain field control for the lv5s, like Omnimon's delay trap; gain speed by trashing cards while digivolving (would be solved if EX6 Gato trashed the rest instead of botton, which is solved anyway playing 4 Darkness Wave which speeds the hell up) and playing free at least both Mireis (which is solved playing ShineBM BT17 for speed and field control). Deck building is crucial to upgrade the deck as Dominimon, ShineBM and Darkness Wave reinforce the missing parts. Decking out will be solved with BeelzeBM ACE. It's a good deck, I don't want to implode into a perfect power creep tier 1, I like it the way it is but I would really love that both Mirei cost 4 to include 2 BT19 Impmon, those tamers have to enter quick to the battlefield
I don’t disagree with Omni. I actually considered talking about DNA Omni as well for this but felt against it because maste is its own deck. That being said I do agree that Mirei is one of the biggest issues of the deck - finding it and playing it for free. Playing two Mireis is ideal to get the full combo. Shame there’s no partition though
I just feel the deck needs better protection. Definitely takes a lot of effort as far as set up goes. But wouldnt feel so bad if your Maste can at least be a bit more resilient afterwards yknow? This deck immediately folds to source stripping and de-digivolve. Scapegoat being only active while being specifically [Angel] archetype also sucks. Scapegoat without the archetyping would be a huge help for the deck.
If the scapegoat worked similarly to chaperomons protection it would have been SO MUCH BETTER 😭
The idea behind it having limited to no protection is that it's a purple deck. Yeah, you can get rid of my cards with little effort, but they ain't gone forever.
Protection OR partition would be rhetorical best thing for the deck
0:15 Blue lol
Also, super sick video idea! I love to theory craft cards and effects, so diving into why certain things struggle and hypothesize fixes for those problems is awesome.
Jamming in a nutshell
Blue was balanced by the fact that their Digimon typically had low DP so you could easily swing over them, but that’s not really the case anymore because of all the new attacking hazards
I wanted to adjust the formatting for what if's to create more discussion! I really enjoy the comments and what other people have in mind.
@@DIGI-PANDA Well I'd say goal accomplished! Looking forward to future discussions.
Arguably... it's identity. The deck is unique where Examon aside its the only jogress/dna deck that required 2 lvl 5's to get its top end. Making it slower but with what was supposed to be a strong strategy element allowing for removal or going wide. With Chaos Degrade still being a great removal card its to high cost and takes space from the Ace card that does something similar with a body on board. I would also argue that being the level 5's are kind of stretched thin as support being they are split between several archetypes (angel, demon lords, Lilith, etc). Making consistency as well as strong support hard to produce without over catering to other decks. Maste would be solid for generic support but would also be hurting as well with patamon having created as much animosity as it did. There is also the jumping through hoops to verify is this that or is that this. The deck could use cheaper evo to speed up getting to the boss but you would then have to work around other problems being mainly...it does what everyone else does.
edit: you can offer a meiri that allows the starter deck gato's on play to work as when digivolving but you'd be pulling a bit from hina and making the deck more dependant on tamers to speed it up. You can give the deck unique feild or option cards but you'd be pulling from nso, royal base, and possibly three musketeers. You can try the double digimon but that feels more in line for Terriermon/Lopmon support down the line as an experiment (had some push back with that due to pokemon tcg stuff when I suggested it). The deck genuinely just needs its own support dealing with the over all theme of time and space.
Everything you mentioned here is spot on. Level 3 searchers, Gatomon that can play Mirei, dual color anges and ladydevis. The two of them on one card is a fantastic idea, I had thought of a similar idea one time, styling them as the next line of special Digimon cards after ACE cards, calling them DUO Digimon.
But yeah, Mastemon always seems to get the short end compared to Imperial, who always gets support within a set or two of Maste getting support. I can only assume someone at Bandai has a vendetta after getting stalled out by Mastemon's peak back in BT9-BT10.
I also really want to see a Mastemon that gets Partition, cause I mean come on, you show us all these cool Partitioning DNA Digimon back in BT-16, and then but one set later release a Mastemon that doesn't have it? Booooo. Also bring back BlackGatomon into the synergy pool too. I don't want "Holy Beast" synergy, I want "has Gatomon in name" synergy.
Please Bandai, I swear it won't break the game to give Mastemon a little bit of power to play with. We are out here having to play 4-d chess just to make the most mediocre of plays.
Partition was definitely something I wanted to consider! I think a lot of DNA digivolved Digimon should get this moving forward.
@DIGI-PANDA I agree, at least non Ace DNA digimon should have partition
Long post here.
I'm a Maste player and I'll tell you most of what is the problem at the lower end but the deck has bigger problems.
1. No mirei that's a memory setter.
This makes all those plays of giving your opponent a lot of memory to break your board.
Hardly matters how many bodies you put up when your opponent when they'll just beat you especially when most decks can clear board before attacking.
Another big problem is a lot of work for mediocre pay off. The starter deck maste is still the best but once on board unless you play a body off flame hell scythe, she does nothing.
Then there's the lack of partition , especially when ex6 release around 16 when it was introduced.
To summarize, maste problem "too much work too little pay"
You hit the nail on the head in regards to too much work with little pay out. Arguably a partition mastemon would have already been huge enough. I think this was partially avoided to allow for DNA BLAST EVO. Which is unfortunate.
I don’t think a memory setter is absolutely necessary because the tamers for mirei are already really good. A gato that plays Mirei would help with 1 or less tamers
I built digitally a mastemon deck dog / anubis based a while ago, teching anubismon and everything and I've never felt more powerful in my life playing a deck, it felt wrong, like I fixed something I didn't even wanted to touch as I'm not a maste player nor even a purple player (having like 15+ decks, none of them purple).
But please I encourage people to try it out as jogress resets "ganining memory by playing by effect" inherit abilities (and mastemons play by effect) making it much more memory efficient
The arts you chose are so pretty 😭
ALSO whenever you need a playtest, I am happy to anytime!!
I can show you where I nabbed them! They’re basically battle spirits Digimon arts
in my opinion biggest thing that is holding back mastemon is some slight changes in wording or color on some cards. the deck has a lot of tools bandai just seemingly does not want half of them to work with the other half
the ex6 level 5s should read “if you did not play a mirei by this effect” instead of “if you already have mirei in play”. this would mean that if you don’t have a mirei at all the card isnt basically a vanilla.
the salamon and gatomon from ex6 should have been purple and yellow. this would allow for more flexibility in level 5s, which imo was the intention of the deck in the first place. if they feel salamon would be too strong just change that to “a different” instead of “a” for its memory gain condition.
as for future cards, i do agree that a dual digimon card would be really cool, but i think it’s strange to be able to digivolve into it in universe wise. i’d have it as like a 7 cost to play purple yellow with no capability to evolve from 4s, name treated as [angewomon/ladydevimon] then choose one of something like recovery 1 or delete a level 5 or lower
mastemon could also use a “miraculous mega knight” type option. big issue with the deck is having mastemon stick around. you can kinda do that with domini now but thats a while thing to have set up. basically give the same effect as mega knight but make it 4 cost and play a gato from hand instead
A few changes after thinking about it. All Salamon's should have end of turn DNA's. Gatomons should have varying degrees to play Mirei. One from security, one from hand, and one from trash. Cover all your bases. Play Analog Youth too why not. Dual color level 5's, and a partition Mastemon. Done.
i feel machindra need something like this, a lv4 or lv5 who can play analogman or a new analogman or a option that reference analog curse, or maybe is bandai have fear of ex1 machindra xDD
With so many flood gates, I honestly done find machinedramon a problem. Think at this point is how many turns of set up do you need?
In the best only 2 but you don't have any card to recovery in 2 turns. Well you can scale but the machindra with when evolve are... Meh. Yes one of them can add analog and put 1 machine cyborg but trash the rest hurt if you want use a tech... Them the machindra millenium is funny but that is all... Have an on delete to revive a lv 5 or lower and an herency only if you want do a meme tech xD
Oh and the Chaosdramon... Well ex3 is the best. Chaosdra x can help and the soc is tech xD
@@Mekaizer decode, black level 5
@@Mekaizer The new cyberdramon ace is pretty good for finding and getting out your analogmans, plus has a good inherited effect. Cheap to play, digs 5 and plays and de-digivolves if you hit or already had one
Obviously ace overflow can be an issue, especially if dealing with things that trash digivolution sources or against removal heavy decks, but it's solid support
The deck really just needs more protection and speed
Memory efficiency is another.
You touched on the issues, but also missed some other glaring issues this has vs other DNA digivolve decks.
1. No memory setters: While both Mirei can gain one memory, neither set it to three and can cause you getting choked out.
2. Lack of recovery: You lose the stack you get nothing back and have to build again. You don't even have any form of protection so once you play your Mastemon you are just hoping you can swing from there. Even worse with the Blast Ace losing you memory when it leaves the area.
3. Lack of general support: Unlike say any of the Tamer 02 digivolution lines you don't have any real support outside of the intended lines you help you build up. You can't really splash in a Hawkmon to help you get your stacks going. People have tried Lucemon support, but that only works for the older Mastemon and not the Blast Ace version.
These are some of the problems I have seen trying to get the deck to run. Other minor issues are the conflicting support for Angels and Fallen Angels as you can't try to focus on both or needing dual colour levels 4s to support older versions of Angewomon and LadyDevimon who have single colour requirements.
Few things to consider. Even imperial decks rarely utilize a memory fixer but imagine this as well. A Mirei that plays a gatomon for free once per a turn and then returns it to the hand end of opponents turn.
I think generally lack of protection is another. Mastemon is a well designed Digimon but its support is just too expensive
(Salamon)
-Color: Yellow/Purple
-Play Cost: 3
-DP: 1000
-Digivolve: 0 on Nyaromon / 1 on purple or yellow
-On Play: Reveal the top 3 cards of your deck. Add 1 Digimon with (Angel) or (Holy) in one of its traits, and 1 yellow tamer to your hand. Trash the rest.
-Inherit: When a card is added to your Security, (Draw 1).
The above card I just described is all I want for a Mastemon/Magnadramon deck. I don't know why Bandai is so adverse to making something so simple, but they are.
(Edit: updated the card's info to better reflect the entirety of its functionality.)
Question is do we bottom deck the rest or trash the rest? Three cards or four cards off the top?
@DIGI-PANDA
I would say reveal 3 cards from the top of the deck and place trash the remaining cards. This way you get your much needed search while creating synergy for cards like BT16 Gatomon and Mastemon.
So despite everything, I still run yellow Kari Kamiya memory tamer that suspends to gain a memory when a card was added to security. If anything, along with sala searchers I’d like a Mirei memory tamer who “suspends to play out Ladydevi/Angewomon from hand, trash, or sources when Mastemon/yellow and purple digimon is DNA’ed.” Either that or “suspends to give Mastemon/yellow purple dna uneffected by digimon effects.”
Basically I’d want the possibility to have two ace targets with 1 dna/another dna potential from off of one mastemon dna for more board wiping. Dominimon being able to spit out shit loads of digimon that he can just straight up protect inspired this idea mostly because I run into the issue of people just wiping my field despite having a Mastemon and Ace potential on the field with lady/ange. Otherwise, I just want to be unaffected too. Tired of just getting out flanked easily by Imperial just suspending, source stripping, and bottom decking for half the price I pay to play this game.
Also I’d like a new level 7 that’s strictly for the deck. Maybe a Mastemon X, Ordinemon with protection/ace, or something new entirely. Really hate splashing in Shinegreymon stuff especially since I still don’t own ruin mode.
Maybe a lvl 7 yellow/purple dna that “unsuspeds all your tamers and gives dp minus -6000 per tamer unsuspended.” Iunno, something crazy like that. Give it some if it would be removed from the battle area clause too like “if it would be removed from field, play out 1 yellow level 5 and 1 purple level 5 from hand, trash, or sources.”
At this point, immunity for Digimon has a few specific clauses.
1. The Digimon cannot attack - in the case of Belphemon and Mother
2. They're Royal Knights
Because Mastemon is in neither of these categories, likely she won't get protection - but partition? That would be nice.
If we consider the other DNA deck that's competitive, Imperial, the answer is memory efficiency. The dual Digimon card and making them double color is a great step forward, but the biggest aid would be the gatomon that plays mirei. That would let you get to lvl6 in a turn. Also partition on Mastemon was very much needed.
I agree with this. Protection or floating partition would be beneficial for the deck
Honestly, yeah.
My theory is that, being the face of the line since Kari’s Gatomon rarely became Salamon, Gatomon is the searcher.
However, they don’t give much for Gatomon to do to be easily brought out. And Salamon gets next to nothing so the entire archetype is in this weird limbo.
All of your ideas are great. The Salamons especially since the best the deck has access to is the bt16 one that only really works as a plan b.
Duo Digimon cards could be interesting if they worked like Dual tamers in the “this is treated as one and/or the other” way.
I’ve wanted to have some more tamers that were Digimon in the same vein as Arukenimon and Mummymon. It would work wonders for villain lines like Mephistomon, Argomon and, especially, something like Murmukusmon.
Great content.
I do hope that, one day, the DCG gets a switch game.
Appreciate it! These types of videos are always fun to explore! And I hope more and more players are enjoying this structure and formatting.
3:57 When was Mirei ever shown with Salamon?
She never was. For me it’s more of a gatomon is angewomons pre evolution so we’ll just reverse the route and go with the line
I cant comment on the state of masta cause i dont ever really play it.
However i love this content idea panda looking forward to maybe some more of these kindda vids if time allows at least.
If you have any suggestions let me know! I’ve got a list of a few I wanted to start with!
@DIGI-PANDA for now only once i can come up with that could use some love is shakamon ( journey to the west ) the older cards just dont fit the theme well and dont work great in the deck so it could use some new cards that help its game play.
Also would love to see some new 4 great dragon stuff i really like how the deck play cyceling through great dragons to make a really powerful goldramon effect trigger but again older cards and could do with some retrains ( also both current stacks do somewhat of the same thing could do with some more diverse effects )
Hope this helps :)
I've played a bunch of different versions of Mastemon. The single most important problem with the deck:
There is no real synergy among all the Maste cards. They are all bits and bobs of various pieces, pretending to be a cohesive whole. And every time that a new Maste piece comes out, the power creep outdates half the deck.
Such as, if the starter deck Gatomon came out today it would grab a digimon, a tamer, and be On Play, AND When digivolving.
So you are always playing a deck that is half out of date.
This I also strongly agree with. And looking at more support cards today, it seems Bandai is moving to the route of cycling out old support. None of the new leomon cards digivolve for cheap on the new accel support cards
Maste and machinedramon both need some love.
Dual color level 5s for masta would help as well as a good searcher level 3 and a good egg. I feel like the options and the top end are good but its missing the bottom end to give it that extra bump.
Machinedramon is my other deck, I think it needs a good level 4 and either a machinedramon ace or a chaosdramon ace. I know it got support in the last set but it felt clunkier.
Partition would be HUGE. That alone I think could change the entire deck.
That or some way of memory recovery.
I wanna have this discussion because as someone who played mastemon. The deck and archetype has many of issues. I due agree we need a lot even if we the most competitive deck out them. I just want the deck to be playable with less issues or at least things she can have access to that the other do.
1) dual colors cards especially with this deck suppose to focus on both yellow and, purple support. I love to see the digitama be dual color to help even the starting turn issues. I also agree angewomon ladydevimon not being dual color slows down things too. We need searchers cause the only lv 3 searchers
Are tsukaimon and, salamon. Neither grab tamers, they get everything else but they have limits too.
2) memory support even tho mirei from BT11 gives 1 memory it's not enough at point. I personally would like a mirei that jumped the memory to 3.
3) massive removal especially when most decks have massive removed before getting to level 6. We don't have it tell lv 7 (odinemon and, shinegreymon ruin mode [which I don't own at all]. Chaos degeneration is nice but it's only 1 shot removal.
Mastemon is, in my eyes, one of the fairest archetypes that currently exists in the game. It's boss card is still relatively strong despite being a card being, what, 2 years old now? It's strongest plays are still pretty good. It's support has all been pretty decent making it's strong plays easier and more consistent with every wave while not breaking it while also giving it new utility by giving inherits like your entire board getting blocker and retaliation in bt 11 and Mastemon getting alliance and scapegoat in ex 6, plus a new Ace that's a little better than most originally thought imo.
All of this is to say that I don't necessarily want Bandai to change how they have designed the archetype. It has it's flaws to be sure, but I'm generally fine with those flaws sticking around. At most, I want a new baby that can maybe make yellow base feel better and a way to play Mirei for free even if you already have one on the board. Both Mirei are very strong so I understand why they limited the amount of Mirei you were allowed to play for free, but I don't think the limit was fully necessary. Getting two free Mirei probably ain't gonna break the deck.
Wasn't expecting this. Seems like a fun series.
(Silphymon at some point? 😅)
Probably! Everything to fix Silphymon and Shakkoumon is literally in the lower base. That’s it
@DIGI-PANDA I fully agree!
New non-ACE versions of Vike and Valk wouldn't hurt, either.
As a long time mastemon player, I dont think the deck needs more search , between the 2 Gatos, bt11 angewomon and the boost I think its enough, what I do think the deck needs is 3 things:
1. Better Inheritable on the lvl 3s and 4s and laydevis, I find the retaliation doesn't really do much, most of the time my opponent isn't swinging into my stuff because of other reasons (big blockers and ace), scapegoat is a bit better but I would rather my maste die and keep my lvl 5s alive so I can threaten ace, then use scapegoat to save a maste thats doesnt do anything. The lvl 3s and 4s almost do nothing.
2. The second issue, maste doesn't do much by herself, the ace is fine because its an ace, but the st10 maste doesnt really do anything now days, without any cards like luce or tk/cody, all she does is play a lvl 5 and delete a lvl 5 or lower, even with those cards you get a bit more removal range but still quite weak imo with how much work you need to play her , compared to things like velgrmon. I constantly find the deck super strong when I have dominimon out and wish maste had its effect, because dominimon almost does a similar thing of playing a lvl 5 to setup aces and removes most lvl 5s. I think maste herself needs some sort of protection/float to make her worth the effort.
3. And now for my hot take, I dont like SR mirei, it only working when there is 1 digimon in play and costing 5, make it extremally clunk to me. its good when you are very behind, but outside of that its doesn't really do much, people will say that there isnt enoguh tamer removal in the game but there is enough that you feel it in maste. The lvls 5s dont help because I find the SEC Mirei so much better to get out and combo with because it does something no matter the board state. A memory setter Mirei would be nice but since we can only every cheat 1 mirei out Idk if would be better then the SEC.
Mirei in general I feel like is good but only good if both are out at the same time.
In regards to better inheritables, I agree! I didn't want to dive too much into inheritables because frankly they could be anything. And the next question is do we want protection effects? Do we want Mastemon to have partition? So many options.
I don't really like the idea of dual digimon cards, it could be something but I think that it should be a "special" thing like in Pokemon with the GX Pokemons or something like that.
And I think that giving a lvl3 searcher and a lvl4 Tamer-player to Mastemon would make the deck like all other decks. Digimon tcg always worked hard to make all color type decks feel unique, and while red, blue and green NEED a searcher and a tamer-player because they focus on attacks, other decks search and play cards in other ways.
Purple usually recycle cards from the trash and yellow plays with your security, you could give Mastemon cards abilitys to play tamers from trash/security (like geogreymon) and trash cards from your deck and then recycle them in your hand, I think Mastemon could feel more consistent like this without losing her unique play-style.
I don’t mind uniqueness. It’s more so a you have to spend so much memory to play just one tamer or play Angewomon to play said tamer. Then afterwards if you want to play the second Mirei you’ll have to do it of your own accord
@@DIGI-PANDA It would be cool an effect that goes like:
"On play/When digievolving - Trash the top 3 cards of your deck. Then, play 1 Mirei from your trash without paying the cost."
Or like:
"On play/When digievolving - search your security, play 1 Mirei without paying the cost. Then, shuffle your security and recovery +1"
A little broken as effects but you can make them work by increasing the play and digievolution cost by 1.
The inherited could just be "Retaliation" and "Barrier"
Interesting topic!
Thank you! Traveling today so my responses will be shorter. If you’ve got a particular archetype you’d like to see, drop it in the comments!
@DIGI-PANDA we appreciate you!
Ravemon!
To me, I think the deck need better protection for the ST-10 gatomon early, a way to add pieces quicker, or make the Lv. 5 Angewomon/LadyDevimon more resilient to removal, or easier way to cheat out more mireis. EX6 Angewomon/LadyDevimon is nice but only allow to play one off the effect.
Most of the early game, you kinda have no choice but to hard play the gatomon to find pieces. Though, due to how easy it is now to remove Lv. 4 or 4000 DP, the Gatomon will guarantee to die if you go second, sometimes survive if going first.
And with the good inheritable/play/digivolve/ effect Angewomon/LadyDevi being 6000 DP, they are way too easy to get popped with most meta cards recently, which makes it much harder to play the ACE
Midgame is generally okay as long as you have both Mirei ready with decent trash setup
End game is really good with very high recursion, depends on the cards you have, it’s very possible to kill 5 security and win at once.
But that early game though… it’s really rough when you don’t dee the pieces.. in a highly brickable deck
Protection, memory efficiency, free tamer play - those are all the big ones. The pay off feels terrible if your stack is outed immediately
I could agree to a level 3 searcher but i think that would ruin the uniqueness of the deck compared to others DNA decks. I agree with some of the other comments asking it to have a better payoff for what it costs to bring it out. The new Examon card looks to make that thing virtually a game ender once it comes out as a reward for putting so much effort to build it.
Comments about making it more resilient would be a better payoff for it too since not only is it Yellow/purple, to resilient and recursive colors, but also it was always positioned to be the more defensive tactical starter deck over imperialdramon's aggressive combo playstyle. It would fit pretty thematically.
Interestingly, we have an Angewomon and Ladydevimon that gains memory when one or the other is played (respectively). But I do wonder what if we had effects similar to the Exveemon and Stingmon that when they DNA together you gain a memory? Because that makes blast digivolution even more obnoxious.
@@DIGI-PANDA a part of me likes to imagine that's why Paildramon and Dinobeemon don't have Blast DNA evos yet lol
Id appreciate a memory-setter Mirei, but thats just me😊
I wouldn’t mind this but at the same time both Mireis out at the same time can be a Mastemon play. I do think the partition is kind of important
I just want to ask if it would really unbalance the game to make the EX6 Angewomon and Ladydevimon just say you can choose to play the tamer or use the effect every time. So many other things play tamers all day, but my favorite archetype gets the most lackluster one since Kurisarimon, and we're considered lucky we even got that.
Those cards should have been if you have one or less tamers. Getting two Mireis usually sets up your play.
I be down if tag team digimon can Activate the DNA effect of DNA digimon but you just have to pay Digivolve cost
Feel like I’d have to change the wording to only ever treat the Digimon as one or the other.
i am sooooo down for white dual digimon that evo on either color and still enable their archetypal level 6 evos. Sick idea!
Dual Digimon is a huuuuge credit to Americanbash who mentioned it. Question is should they be white or should they have dual color status
I don't think the Mastemon players want to hear this but I think the deck having access to too much protection would be broken. Considering that it's one of the best decks to be able to consistently use Chaos Degradation, an option card that circumvents many forms of protection, probably even most forms of protection, would create completely unbalanced gameplay. Tho the consistency of scapegoat absolutely needs to be improved in the deck, it's a little too easy to take out a Mastemon as things are now.
Partition playing out two level fours is already kind of nuts, now imagine it's instead two level fives that are just a little too big to be taken out by a ruin mode. Maybe something more like decode would be more balanced, combined with your suggestion of a duel coloured and/or named level five would fit the need of the ace variant.
having ladydevi and angewomon be dual color is a bit if a flavour fail, gatomon is dual color because it goes inti either, kinda like choosing a side.
however dual digimon is somethig i have thought about and Defnetly want to see in the future
56 comments after just 16 hours is crazy ,
The comments cover it almost all the point
I would add since mastemon is a trash reliant an easy way to fill the traash with a key cards is also good to the deck
Mastemon is popular! I wanted to touch on some initial points that I feel would lower the base line of memory cost when it’s so expensive
I know that Yellow/Purple Angewomon and LadyDevimon won't be happening soon because Bandai doesn't want to have people use the same Mon. It's probably the reason why Shakkoumon went from Yellow/Blue to Black/Yellow. But I wouldn't mind a Dual Digimons as long they don't overdue it. Lopmon and Terriermon could be one of them along side of Jogress deck. Adventure Agumon & Savers Agumon shouldn't be one soon.
Feel like you glossed over the fact that Mastemon is a boss monster from BT8 whose best combo piece is Lucemon, an unsearchable out-of-archetype card. Mastemon Ace isn't even strictly better since it doesn't interact with Lucemon and Blast DNA is a fragile mechanic, not to mention losing so many resources plus overflow when it dies.
If Takemikazuchi is allowed to exist, we can get a new Mastemon card whose power level actually reflects the current state of the game.
I feel like Lucemon falls under the unintended interaction. And while it isn’t searchable, via newer stuff you can with the starter Gato.
Overall, I’m not saying these are the only things that can fix the deck but bring about discussion
Digipanda I don't know if you are a Digimon fun or only a tcg fun but the reason why are angewo and ladydevi that plays mirei and gato is the searcher instead of salamon is because the partner digimon of mirei are angewo and ladydevi, not the pre evolution. Since the tcg is really bonded with the real lore of the franchise, they filled the decks with lv4 and 5 only for gameplay reason, so I think that this is the reason of the deck being like this.
I understand that. And I get it. I know Mirei was only partnered with the level 5s but regardless the issue at hand is the amount of memory you need to spend for the payoff for a Mastemon stack. No protection. No partition. Frankly if that’s the case ignoring gato and sala then I’d be looking for option cards that are much cheaper that can play your angewomon or ladydevimon for a reduced cost or for free.
@DIGI-PANDA Yeah, maybe that is a way. But, you know what? I want to trust bandai, if you look at the new examon's support in BT20 they are making it really faster and the amount of memory you need is less, not very less but surely useful. So I think that someday mastemon will be very great ^^
Esosmon next please but also thanks for making this too
You’re welcome! That one’s on the list already :)
I think expecting every deck to get a lv3 searcher ends up being boring, for example the new reveals for bt-20 are good but they all look cookie cutter, salamon not being the searcher can let them make lv3s that can go into gato easier, like the bt-16 one, what really sucks about the ex6 ange and lady are the fact that you can only play 1 mirei for free, while now new support lv4s can play up to 2 on the field, it feels extremely bad to be almost immediety powercrept about 1 or 2 sets after release, a dual shared card would be amazing even if it costs more, a good on play like removal or stun to play with mastemon's effects and an inheritable to protect maste would be amazing. while def custom a unqiue training like they did for pulsemon for mastemon that could just play a gatomon or salamon and get the inherit upside for cheaper than it would be to hardplay the 5 cost gato
I won't say you hit the nail as the others. Comparing Omni/Grey/Garuru (which all are different decks) with any deck is a bad idea.
1. I had ~20 cards in hand before decking out, so no more searchers please. Not all cards must be searched, is part of the strategy while deck building and while playing, in Mirage you won't play Gaomon BT11 if you only need a lv5 and your deck has 4 Huankunmon and 3 Zudomons. I'm pretty pleased with Gatomons.
2. No need to compare dual tamers with dual Digimon, that's horrible, why I won't be able to use that single card fot DNA then?
Any deck isn't meta by 2 reasons: Speed and/or Field Control. Mastemon isn't the best in any, but is good enough for both.
To be tier 1 instead of 2 it will need something to gain field control for the lv5s, like Omnimon's delay trap; gain speed by trashing cards while digivolving (would be solved if EX6 Gato trashed the rest instead of botton, which is solved anyway playing 4 Darkness Wave which speeds the hell up) and playing free at least both Mireis (which is solved playing ShineBM BT17 for speed and field control).
Deck building is crucial to upgrade the deck as Dominimon, ShineBM and Darkness Wave reinforce the missing parts.
Decking out will be solved with BeelzeBM ACE.
It's a good deck, I don't want to implode into a perfect power creep tier 1, I like it the way it is but I would really love that both Mirei cost 4 to include 2 BT19 Impmon, those tamers have to enter quick to the battlefield
I don’t disagree with Omni. I actually considered talking about DNA Omni as well for this but felt against it because maste is its own deck. That being said I do agree that Mirei is one of the biggest issues of the deck - finding it and playing it for free. Playing two Mireis is ideal to get the full combo. Shame there’s no partition though
I was literally just thinking this yesterday 😂
Reprint and affordability
This too ha ha
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Hope you enjoyed this discussion!
Can i request Lucemon or Millenniummon?
Absolutely! I have a whole line of discussions prepping for this!
Salamon on play get 1 Lucemon and trash 3 Demon Lords sounds nice
#chaos