Me-262 was the most aesthetically beautiful fighter ever produced. Watching it in flight is like watching a tiger shark that has taken to the skies with wings and engines fixed to it's body.
At least the pilot survived, I was thinking we'd see a flight of big ugly Jugs waste the poor guy while landing. Pretty much sums up the futility of the Luftwaffe by 1944, they had some great planes, but not nearly enough, and so many of the best pilots were gone by then. Thoroughly watchable video for even a casual observer like me.
And then the best pilots that had seen theyr friends die were flying suicidal several sorties a day because they knew any day was there last at that point
DISCLAIMER, please read before commenting: This is not supposed to be an accurate representation of reality. That's why the video title begins with: "IL-2 1946:". I'm showing off the game, not history. I know of the game's weaknesses , believe me. Please watch this, before complaining: ua-cam.com/video/XIg5oOGblCw/v-deo.html
kpadmirer Not the first one to see combat, the RAF was forbidden to fly the Meteor over German-held territory to prevent it from being shot down and salvaged.
Klasse geflogen! So muss man sie fliegen, die 262. Mit hohem Geschwindigkeitsüberschuss ran, präziser Feuerstoss, und dann in weitem Bogen ohne den Geschwindigkeitsvorteil aufzugeben dem Begleitschutz entkommen.
In den Händen eines erfahrenen Piloten und mit der richtigen Taktik geflogen, war sie wie die Me-163 tatsächlich eine (fast) unbezwingbare Waffe. Auch gegen die V2 gab es damals keine Abwehrmöglichkeit.
@@dr.-ing.ansgar_matthes Im Gegensatz zur V2 war die ME262 allerdings immerhin effektiv, da überlegen. Die V2 war ein millitärischer Misserfolg, da die Technik einfach nicht gut genug war, um eine PRÄZISE Mittelstreckenrakete zu bauen. Zur Me 163: Jeder Flug war ein Himmelfahrtskommando... Die Idee eines Abfangjägers ist gut, aber der Antrieb war einfach zu gefährlich für die Piloten.
@@dr.-ing.ansgar_matthes Der ganze Krieg hätte nicht sein müssen, aber wenn man davon absieht und die Effektivität betrachtet, wurden für die V2 unverhältnismäßig viele Ressourcen und Arbeit hineingesteckt für die Ziele, die damit erreicht werden sollten und nicht erreicht wurden. Die V2 war natürlich eine bemerkenswerte Rakete, aber vor allem unter zivilen Aspekten mit Sicherheit ein Meilenstein der Geschichte.
I'm impressed with how you are able to fly the plane. My engines always catch fire. I seriously have no clue how to prevent that from happening, i try to be as gentle on the throttle as possible, still it happens.
What did he do, hit the bomb load? I kinda don't think so, or there would have been more damage and a big flash. (What i mean by more damage is it would have damaged some of the other 17s around it) can anyone tell me what he hit to do what he did?
@@christopherwestern9223 it's because if how IL2s damage modeling works. Every plane has a tail section and wing sections that can break off. Then there is a core fuselage section, usually the nose, cockpit, and a part of fuselage. Damage that enough and the plane blows up, with everything going to maximum damage and all flammable parts catching on fire.
Why is there a white and a yellow arm on the speedometer? Which one is the right one? It seems the yellow is accurate at high altitude while white is accurate at low altitude.
Holy shit…holy shit 64 year old 🇦🇺watching this on a IPad Mini with over the ears BT Head Phones never experienced this before…holy shit my heart was racing through out “I” was so grateful to make that concrete bunker hanger in the end …..bastards were trying to kill me. Wow….what a plane that ME 262 was so sad never again brothers never again.
The red? Its called a red out. When you put to many negative G's on a plane, your blood flows to your head and you get red out. Its just the opposite of what happens with a gray out or black out. Those are to many positive G's and your blood flows to your feet.
Wonder if turbo props would have been better suited to the 262... 4 counter rotating Jumo turbo props, and a few more degrees of wing sweep. Solve that slow take off and landing issue. 😉
You show nice deflection shooting skills, especially in side approach. For the mission, I think it could be a little more "accurate". If the allies feared the ME 262 and consequently ambushed them at take-off and landings, germans were not so dumb to leave them unprotected, especially during missions. Historically, as the ME 262 needed a long straight landing approach, german feated all the way with many FLAK towers, especially quad 20mm AA, and they were patrolling above the airfield with air cover. FLAK guns were not especially in shortage, at the end of the war.
John Arnold “Battle of Bodenplatte.” It’s an upcoming expansion (although it can be played stand-alone) for IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad. It will feature ME-262s, among other late-war aircraft. Also, Flying Circus for IL-2 BoS is releasing relatively soon as well - it brings WWI aircraft and a WWI career. I pre-ordered it, have early access - I’m actually having more fun flying WWI planes than I think I will with the 262.
Fabulous mission. One of the top five. Did you land at a different airfield? I was expecting to see the wrecks and damage from when you took off. Excellent cat and mouse game at the end. Damn those Yanks with their 20-20 vision. Gruss aus Kiedrich
I landed at the same airfield. The issue is that wrecks, craters, fire effects and stuff disappear if you start a new replay. I restarted the replays every 15 minutes or so in this, so i wouldn't have to film everything in one sitting.
Thanks for the reply. Any idea if/when AI is going to evolve where flight crews will be able to exit their aircraft in a non-escape mode? It would be cool to watch them crawl out and greet the ground crews and inspect the aircraft. Gruss, Bill
Lol, ME262 claims are wildly unrealistic next to US loss records. The US kept track of what planes they lost, and to what causes. They didn't lose 550 planes of any kind to Jets in WWII.
@Custom HolyGunZ Most of the resources use contemporary Luftwaffe victory claims and the claims made by veterans decades after the war, neither of which are reliable. The luftwaffe themselves had stopped verifying claims in February 1945 (wasn't deemed that important with their country falling apart and being invaded), where as the majority of ME262 claims were made between March to May 1945, after verification had ended. In short, the 550 claim number is purely based on incomplete surviving documentation and veteran recollections from the 1980's. It is extremely unreliable and does not match up with US loss records, which are preserved and can be used to fact check ME262 victory claims if one has the patience. I've gone through US losses personally for many of the ME262 actions in March and April 1945 (US "INTOPs" reports), including reading the individual loss reports for all US aircraft lost those days (known as Missing Air Crew Reports, for which 99% of lost aircraft have one). ME262s did not shoot down anything remotely close to 550 aircraft. It is most certainly under 200 and may be even as low as 100 aircraft. Whatever technological merits of the ME262, it simply didn't matter much when US escorts were so numerous and the Jets had to come to the bombers. The ME262s had to attack US bombers at X altitude while US fighters were several thousand feet higher waiting to jump on them. In practice, the ME262 units often lost as many aircraft as they shot down, which was an improvement over aircraft like the ME109 and FW190 which were slaughtered when they appeared in 1945, but it was far less than what is often assumed the ME262 really did.
@Custom HolyGunZ US intelligence reports (a.k.a. INTOP's reports) and Missing Air Crew Reports (MACRs) were classified documents at the time, they are not going to lie about losses to jets, otherwise their entire purpose is ruined. How can 8th Air Force Commanders plan missions and counter losses to German jets if they won't even acknowledge what they lost to those jets? If it were official figures released to the public, you could argue propaganda maybe, but internal reports it makes no sense to lie. No, the US records are fine. They even compliment the German jet pilots skill and aggressiveness on a few days when they did in fact shoot down some Allied planes. And it is not just Allied records that contradict ME262 claims, at times Luftwaffe records show no jet sorties on some days, yet in books on JG7 some of these ME262 pilots took off and shot down US aircraft. So you have both German AND American records contradicting what is written in books. Most US aircraft lost on days ME262s flew were lost to flak. This isn't surprising as US raids were consistently suffering battle damage to 50-60% of aircraft dispatched, which indicates very heavy flak concentrations over targets.
@Custom HolyGunZ Well it wasn't suicidal to fly unlike the ME109 and FW190 by that point, but the loss rate for guys flying in the ME262 was still awfully high. It was a technological marvel, but in practical terms it wasn't able to accomplish much given the conditions it flew in. If they could have fielded more jets it probably would have had the numbers to do some real damage. As it was, most ME262 engagements were more akin to hit and run attacks then a sustained air battle. If the escorts scattered the ME262s (which is what actually happened most of the time) then the number of kills were low. On days where the ME262s had clouds and could use the bomber contrails to approach undetected, they could do some damage.
What an amazing mission! And the Allies really did stake out airfields that had Me 262's on them, so pretty accurate to me. Edit: Again, what an amazing mission you made / flew. Edit2: At end of video, safety?
This is a bit silly but I sometimes think... by doing all the terrible things the German government did in the 40s and losing the war they lost their chance to be world leaders in aviation in the 50s and 60s. Then again, who knows how slowly things would have progressed if it was not for WW2.
Me 262s shot down some american planes near end of ww2, some were shot down themselves by allied fighters because they were slow and vulnerable at takeoff, landing
TheSturmovik talking specifically on the me 262, they were slow on landings because of pilot lowering thrust on jet engines to slow down for landing. American fighter pilots in p51s etc picked up on this following them after dogfights and took opportunity to shoot them down before they made it back to Luftwaffe airfields
Great flying, you really had to keep your wits about before committing to the final approach. Walter Nowotny died btw on his first combat mission flying the 262.
That was a very nice flight..!!! You must have a very nice computer to be able to play that game on.. because even the sound and the graphics look amazing..!! I been playing 1946 for a lot of years but my game looks pretty dull, not like this one here..
Not only were the ME262s vulnerable on take off/landing but the temperamental jumo 004 turbojets often played up in combat and the vaunted 540mph top end was not always available thus some were caught in the air by USAAF Fighters as they couldn't get away.
Yes, it's my understanding that a shortage of rare earth metals such as chromium resulted in the use of inferior metals in the fan and compressor blades. The engines were quite literally disposable and easily swapped due to their location under the wings.
Los primeros en hacer este tipo de aviones y otras armas hermosas ,de por si mejores que todas las tortas de los malos que ganaron por cantidad no por calidad !!!!
Didn't the ME-262 only have about fifteen minutes of flying time? From take off to the site of the battle, seems like a very long way for a plane that can only fly for fifteen minutes! Also, wouldn't it be more accurate if it showed a American plane shooting it down as the ME-262b was on it's final approach to land?
The 262 carried 2570 litres of fuel, I do not have a book at hand to look up the 262s endurance, but Wikipedia states it at 60 to 90 minutes. Where do you have 15 minutes from? o_O To answer your second question, it is impossible to make AI shoot you down on landing. I tried. Hard. ua-cam.com/video/XIg5oOGblCw/v-deo.html
ahhh, i like to hear the noise of my riedel-starter in the morning.. time to smell the sweet aroma of some burning fortress in my oxygem mast... ;-) achtung, indianer in der platzrunde. horrido, ✙urbansoldier✙
esse avião caça jato mais lindo da Alemanha a velocidade dele era insuperável realmente era a visão da guerra da Alemanha ao ataque dos bombardeiros americano parabéns pelo video.
então eu sou apaixonado por avioes de todos tipos e modelos principalmente pelos modelos alemão eu tenho um modelo 262ME com canhão na frente então fiquei impressionados pela qualidadee do video pela visão de guerra para defender o território alemão pois se eles resolve fazer esses jato dois anos antes os alemão ganhava a guerra eles fizeram de tudo foi o maximo de tecnologia sobre aviação. parabens mais uma vez fantástico.
@@Myuutsuu85 the really stupid ideas of hitler , 2 years more to take producction because the stupid wanted a fighter bomber , and after that the most common one was the "just" fighter model And just one of the stupid ideas of him
@@krosskreut3463 it's a common misconception that the ME262 was delayed because of Hitler. The main reason for it's late introduction was that it was based on highly experimental technology and more than half of the required test flight hours were skipped before going into production. Though the Germans had a lot of high tech machinery available the possible production numbers were still be too low to really matter. The ME262 engine for example (Jumo 004) was a good design considering what was available but still it could have been much more effective if the Germans have had access to Tungsten steel in huge quantities. Also projects like the Dora rail artillery gun, the V2 + V1 and the Maus tank were a waste of resources since their effectiveness in combat was too low to justify the costs. The Germans should rather have concentrated on computer technology, aquisition of rare materials and a streamlined set of vehicles with focus on compatibility. Well one can argue about this for hours but the results of WW2 will never change. One can only remember the mistakes and the horror pictures seen in it and do everything at hand to prevent it from happening again anywhere on the globe.
@@Squee7e wow , amazing , thanks for the explanation , and i with you that the v weapons and the maus were the worst option for so valuable resources (maybe modified thelow powered versions of the v2 as the small a5 and fill it with explosive or ap cap would be a better idea and for planes as high altitude bombs or made then a super pc 1400 of lower or more weight and be a sc like guide bomb) , and i would add the cupole , the unfinnished graff zeppelin (for how long was to be for be finnished) and not made for me good proyects as the he 280 with 4 20 mm guns as the early jet (at least for me) or not made the panther f or 2 insteated of the tiger 2 (at least was good that) or the stupid sturmtiger (was a better idea weapin then with a 150 gun as the hummel (or shorter ) and a casemate as the others but nooo beter a low reload super rocket launcher)
Yes, that's why the video title begins with "IL-2 1946" and why UA-cam displays the game cover of "IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946" under the video. Of course it's WarThunder, when the video description answers the question "What game is this?" with "IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946".
Me-262 was the most aesthetically beautiful fighter ever produced. Watching it in flight is like watching a tiger shark that has taken to the skies with wings and engines fixed to it's body.
Walter Novotny, an austrian hero: 258 shot-downs, in over 400 campaigns !!! God bless his soul !
Why?
@@michaelweaver7898 why what ?
Гитлер тоже австриец, куча поводов для гордости ).
@@shumatych герой истребитель и усатый герой, это разные понятия...
Wonderful thanks! It is pretty accurate in that the Mustangs and Thunderbolts knew when to jump the 262s--while they were taking off and landing.
Yeah...seems pretty accurate to me!
Oleg Maddox masterpiece!!
- Vajradatta - That was the only way to bring down an Me262.The equivalent of shooting somebody in the back and getting credit for it.
Fantastic video! I can't wait to repeat that in Battle of Bodenplatte!
Fishyyy earned The Knights Cross of The Iron Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords and Diamonds that day.
It's nice that he has been shot down a bit later :)
And a cup of tea!
@@bigwetslug1940 And a Lüger
At least the pilot survived, I was thinking we'd see a flight of big ugly Jugs waste the poor guy while landing. Pretty much sums up the futility of the Luftwaffe by 1944, they had some great planes, but not nearly enough, and so many of the best pilots were gone by then. Thoroughly watchable video for even a casual observer like me.
only just ,they knocked 700 planes out of sky in 3 mts ,then no fuel ,but keep flying till end
And then the best pilots that had seen theyr friends die were flying suicidal several sorties a day because they knew any day was there last at that point
This guy is the best. tactics, fire efficiency... nice
DISCLAIMER, please read before commenting:
This is not supposed to be an accurate representation of reality. That's why the video title begins with: "IL-2 1946:". I'm showing off the game, not history.
I know of the game's weaknesses , believe me. Please watch this, before complaining:
ua-cam.com/video/XIg5oOGblCw/v-deo.html
Those canons sounds like Mike Tyson punches.
Your videos always tend to be quite historically accurate I've found, you definitely put in a lot of effort into them :)
Gosh Lidia, what are you talking about?? (Don't answer).
Thanks
Most enjoyable to watch must be very similar to a real mission well done !
Wow, that landing was intense. Saved by the hangar.
The worlds first operational jet fighter
Brett Lloyd No shit Sherlock.
Gloster Meteor was first.
kpadmirer Not the first one to see combat, the RAF was forbidden to fly the Meteor over German-held territory to prevent it from being shot down and salvaged.
Yup the first..german space magic and butthurt allies
more like butthurt germans for losing two wars in a row
Lol! Good effort to get in the hangar after landing.
Klasse geflogen! So muss man sie fliegen, die 262. Mit hohem Geschwindigkeitsüberschuss ran, präziser Feuerstoss, und dann in weitem Bogen ohne den Geschwindigkeitsvorteil aufzugeben dem Begleitschutz entkommen.
das ist rrrrichtik , hoil dir im Siegerrkrranz (;--))
In den Händen eines erfahrenen Piloten und mit der richtigen Taktik geflogen, war sie wie die Me-163 tatsächlich eine (fast) unbezwingbare Waffe. Auch gegen die V2 gab es damals keine Abwehrmöglichkeit.
@@dr.-ing.ansgar_matthes Im Gegensatz zur V2 war die ME262 allerdings immerhin effektiv, da überlegen. Die V2 war ein millitärischer Misserfolg, da die Technik einfach nicht gut genug war, um eine PRÄZISE Mittelstreckenrakete zu bauen.
Zur Me 163: Jeder Flug war ein Himmelfahrtskommando... Die Idee eines Abfangjägers ist gut, aber der Antrieb war einfach zu gefährlich für die Piloten.
@@Squee7e Die V2 verbreitete dennoch genug Schrecken, Zerstörung und Tod.
@@dr.-ing.ansgar_matthes Der ganze Krieg hätte nicht sein müssen, aber wenn man davon absieht und die Effektivität betrachtet, wurden für die V2 unverhältnismäßig viele Ressourcen und Arbeit hineingesteckt für die Ziele, die damit erreicht werden sollten und nicht erreicht wurden. Die V2 war natürlich eine bemerkenswerte Rakete, aber vor allem unter zivilen Aspekten mit Sicherheit ein Meilenstein der Geschichte.
I like how there are also He 162 too in the hangar
I'm impressed with how you are able to fly the plane. My engines always catch fire. I seriously have no clue how to prevent that from happening, i try to be as gentle on the throttle as possible, still it happens.
Try not running them at full throttle.
That's exactly what i tried, but nothing works. The catch fire even after throttling halfway max.
Just try to keep it between 70%-100% at all times.it usually happens for me when you drop power below 60%
Hotel amafa
Lol, I bet they were like that in ww2. The quality in materials used for the engines weren’t that great when they were built.
21:54 Holy Shit !
I know right !!!! haha
Did his cannon sever the rear fuselage? Too fast my old eyes to see?
@@jduff59 The 17 completely broke apart. It exploded into pieces.
What did he do, hit the bomb load? I kinda don't think so, or there would have been more damage and a big flash. (What i mean by more damage is it would have damaged some of the other 17s around it) can anyone tell me what he hit to do what he did?
@@christopherwestern9223 it's because if how IL2s damage modeling works. Every plane has a tail section and wing sections that can break off. Then there is a core fuselage section, usually the nose, cockpit, and a part of fuselage. Damage that enough and the plane blows up, with everything going to maximum damage and all flammable parts catching on fire.
I'm still flying in this flight simulator. For me it is the best of all.
Surely.
Alejandro Gómez, Me too! I still have Windows XP for this purpose only. 👍
For additional graphics boost, use reshade.
I like ist too, but in the newest i can use my vr headset
Fun Fact: There's a Nowotny skin (official) for the Bf-109 F2 IL2 BoS
Why is there a white and a yellow arm on the speedometer? Which one is the right one?
It seems the yellow is accurate at high altitude while white is accurate at low altitude.
Nowotny died in an Me-262. His last words: "My God, I'm burning."
Interesting!
Not much you could do if the wings took any hits then the jet fuel would catch fire
And this is why I want a PC
I can run this game at good frame rates and res on my 2013 laptop, so if you have a computer of any sort it should run fine.
Holy shit he just blew that B-17 up at 21min and 57sec
Awesome vid :)
Holy shit…holy shit 64 year old 🇦🇺watching this on a IPad Mini with over the ears BT Head Phones never experienced this before…holy shit my heart was racing through out “I” was so grateful to make that concrete bunker hanger in the end …..bastards were trying to kill me. Wow….what a plane that ME 262 was so sad never again brothers never again.
Cool job!
Nice looking graphics for such an old game ! What graphics mods do you use ?
46:40 WTF?????
The red? Its called a red out. When you put to many negative G's on a plane, your blood flows to your head and you get red out. Its just the opposite of what happens with a gray out or black out. Those are to many positive G's and your blood flows to your feet.
Christopher Western he's probably remarking at the marksmanship of the pilot which I too must say is admirable
nice B and Z, and editing
43:48 *Maurice! Nooo!!!!!*
P51:change the world, my final message, good bye
Wonder if turbo props would have been better suited to the 262... 4 counter rotating Jumo turbo props, and a few more degrees of wing sweep. Solve that slow take off and landing issue. 😉
You show nice deflection shooting skills, especially in side approach.
For the mission, I think it could be a little more "accurate".
If the allies feared the ME 262 and consequently ambushed them at take-off and landings, germans were not so dumb to leave them unprotected, especially during missions.
Historically, as the ME 262 needed a long straight landing approach, german feated all the way with many FLAK towers, especially quad 20mm AA, and they were patrolling above the airfield with air cover.
FLAK guns were not especially in shortage, at the end of the war.
There where also special FW190 units protecting the airfields
The attack at 21:55 ... Insane 😱😱😱
Would be cool to see a mission with R4M rockets being used.
Can't wait for BoBP
Cat's Evidence Locker what?
John Arnold “Battle of Bodenplatte.” It’s an upcoming expansion (although it can be played stand-alone) for IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad.
It will feature ME-262s, among other late-war aircraft.
Also, Flying Circus for IL-2 BoS is releasing relatively soon as well - it brings WWI aircraft and a WWI career. I pre-ordered it, have early access - I’m actually having more fun flying WWI planes than I think I will with the 262.
Fabulous mission. One of the top five. Did you land at a different airfield? I was expecting to see the wrecks and damage from when you took off. Excellent cat and mouse game at the end. Damn those Yanks with their 20-20 vision. Gruss aus Kiedrich
I landed at the same airfield. The issue is that wrecks, craters, fire effects and stuff disappear if you start a new replay. I restarted the replays every 15 minutes or so in this, so i wouldn't have to film everything in one sitting.
Thanks for the reply. Any idea if/when AI is going to evolve where flight crews will be able to exit their aircraft in a non-escape mode? It would be cool to watch them crawl out and greet the ground crews and inspect the aircraft. Gruss, Bill
Hey Franz, I want to take the Me-262 out for a Sunday Flight. Fill up the cannons incase I run into someone.......
Why did you take so long to go round and do your second attack ? Time is fuel !
MUSTANGS
Muito bom! Nowotnny foi um as da Luftwaffe
thank you for mission
What are these escorts hoping for?
ME 262 PULLED DOWN AROUND 550 US BOMBERS
Lol, ME262 claims are wildly unrealistic next to US loss records. The US kept track of what planes they lost, and to what causes. They didn't lose 550 planes of any kind to Jets in WWII.
@Custom HolyGunZ Most of the resources use contemporary Luftwaffe victory claims and the claims made by veterans decades after the war, neither of which are reliable. The luftwaffe themselves had stopped verifying claims in February 1945 (wasn't deemed that important with their country falling apart and being invaded), where as the majority of ME262 claims were made between March to May 1945, after verification had ended.
In short, the 550 claim number is purely based on incomplete surviving documentation and veteran recollections from the 1980's. It is extremely unreliable and does not match up with US loss records, which are preserved and can be used to fact check ME262 victory claims if one has the patience.
I've gone through US losses personally for many of the ME262 actions in March and April 1945 (US "INTOPs" reports), including reading the individual loss reports for all US aircraft lost those days (known as Missing Air Crew Reports, for which 99% of lost aircraft have one). ME262s did not shoot down anything remotely close to 550 aircraft. It is most certainly under 200 and may be even as low as 100 aircraft.
Whatever technological merits of the ME262, it simply didn't matter much when US escorts were so numerous and the Jets had to come to the bombers. The ME262s had to attack US bombers at X altitude while US fighters were several thousand feet higher waiting to jump on them. In practice, the ME262 units often lost as many aircraft as they shot down, which was an improvement over aircraft like the ME109 and FW190 which were slaughtered when they appeared in 1945, but it was far less than what is often assumed the ME262 really did.
@Custom HolyGunZ US intelligence reports (a.k.a. INTOP's reports) and Missing Air Crew Reports (MACRs) were classified documents at the time, they are not going to lie about losses to jets, otherwise their entire purpose is ruined. How can 8th Air Force Commanders plan missions and counter losses to German jets if they won't even acknowledge what they lost to those jets? If it were official figures released to the public, you could argue propaganda maybe, but internal reports it makes no sense to lie. No, the US records are fine. They even compliment the German jet pilots skill and aggressiveness on a few days when they did in fact shoot down some Allied planes.
And it is not just Allied records that contradict ME262 claims, at times Luftwaffe records show no jet sorties on some days, yet in books on JG7 some of these ME262 pilots took off and shot down US aircraft. So you have both German AND American records contradicting what is written in books.
Most US aircraft lost on days ME262s flew were lost to flak. This isn't surprising as US raids were consistently suffering battle damage to 50-60% of aircraft dispatched, which indicates very heavy flak concentrations over targets.
@Custom HolyGunZ Well it wasn't suicidal to fly unlike the ME109 and FW190 by that point, but the loss rate for guys flying in the ME262 was still awfully high.
It was a technological marvel, but in practical terms it wasn't able to accomplish much given the conditions it flew in. If they could have fielded more jets it probably would have had the numbers to do some real damage. As it was, most ME262 engagements were more akin to hit and run attacks then a sustained air battle.
If the escorts scattered the ME262s (which is what actually happened most of the time) then the number of kills were low. On days where the ME262s had clouds and could use the bomber contrails to approach undetected, they could do some damage.
What is the namof this gane tel me
Peanut butter rainbows are awesome.
I see Major Nowotny remembered to put on his lucky underwear on this day lol ;) Another great video. keep it up :-D
Why my mouse dont work in this game
Me 262 climbs like a turtle, I think I still prefer the Bf109 K4.
The biggest problem with early jets :not so powerful engines
Any body know if this is computer game and where I can find it thanks
Big foot De USA it is
Is called IL-2 1946
You can buy it on steam it cost under 10 bucks
Yes it's showing it's age but is still a great sim if graphics arent as important as gameplay
What an amazing mission!
And the Allies really did stake out airfields that had Me 262's on them, so pretty accurate to me.
Edit: Again, what an amazing mission you made / flew.
Edit2: At end of video, safety?
Good thing these came late in the war and in small numbers, or bad day for the allies
This is a bit silly but I sometimes think... by doing all the terrible things the German government did in the 40s and losing the war they lost their chance to be world leaders in aviation in the 50s and 60s. Then again, who knows how slowly things would have progressed if it was not for WW2.
Me 262s shot down some american planes near end of ww2, some were shot down themselves by allied fighters because they were slow and vulnerable at takeoff, landing
what plane is not vulnerable at takeoff, landing ? honestly
TheSturmovik talking specifically on the me 262, they were slow on landings because of pilot lowering thrust on jet engines to slow down for landing. American fighter pilots in p51s etc picked up on this following them after dogfights and took opportunity to shoot them down before they made it back to Luftwaffe airfields
TheSturmovik every one but the 262 was especially bad at takeoff. Think heavy bomber bad
お、タキシングに入る前のMe262を護衛する為に飛び立ったのは、Ta152？
Great flying, you really had to keep your wits about before committing to the final approach. Walter Nowotny died btw on his first combat mission flying the 262.
imagine this game with il2 sturmovik graphics please somebody remaster this like cliffs of dover
This is not my home. I live near the two Airports Achmer and Hesepe both are less than 5 km away from my home
That was a very nice flight..!!!
You must have a very nice computer to be able to play that game on..
because even the sound and the graphics look amazing..!!
I been playing 1946 for a lot of years but my game looks pretty dull, not like this one here..
Not only were the ME262s vulnerable on take off/landing but the temperamental jumo 004 turbojets often played up in combat and the vaunted 540mph top end was not always available thus some were caught in the air by USAAF Fighters as they couldn't get away.
I believe those engines were only usable to a mere 13 hours! It’s amazing what they’ve done with jet engines since.
Yes, it's my understanding that a shortage of rare earth metals such as chromium resulted in the use of inferior metals in the fan and compressor blades. The engines were quite literally disposable and easily swapped due to their location under the wings.
Los primeros en hacer este tipo de aviones y otras armas hermosas ,de por si mejores que todas las tortas de los malos que ganaron por cantidad no por calidad !!!!
I love the Messerschmitt me 262 except if it was an American plane
Didn't the ME-262 only have about fifteen minutes of flying time? From take off to the site of the battle, seems like a very long way for a plane that can only fly for fifteen minutes!
Also, wouldn't it be more accurate if it showed a American plane shooting it down as the ME-262b was on it's final approach to land?
The 262 carried 2570 litres of fuel, I do not have a book at hand to look up the 262s endurance, but Wikipedia states it at 60 to 90 minutes. Where do you have 15 minutes from? o_O
To answer your second question, it is impossible to make AI shoot you down on landing. I tried. Hard.
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ahhh, i like to hear the noise of my riedel-starter in the morning.. time to smell the sweet aroma of some burning fortress in my oxygem mast... ;-)
achtung, indianer in der platzrunde.
horrido, ✙urbansoldier✙
262 more more more! Sorry you just triggered my inner geek. First
esse avião caça jato mais lindo da Alemanha a velocidade dele era insuperável realmente era a visão da guerra da Alemanha ao ataque dos bombardeiros americano parabéns pelo video.
obrigado :)
então eu sou apaixonado por avioes de todos tipos e modelos principalmente pelos modelos alemão eu tenho um modelo 262ME com canhão na frente então fiquei impressionados pela qualidadee do video pela visão de guerra para defender o território alemão pois se eles resolve fazer esses jato dois anos antes os alemão ganhava a guerra eles fizeram de tudo foi o maximo de tecnologia sobre aviação. parabens mais uma vez fantástico.
Where is the English translation? Lol
Plane shot down. Player kill credit: xXXH3MM3ALXXx
V.R. would be fun with this.
Thank God the Germans didn't have that kind of an interceptor earlier in the war.
There would be a lot less snowflakes and ANTIFA if they did...
@@christopherwestern9223 aye.. wanted to make a damn bomber out of it.
@@Myuutsuu85 the really stupid ideas of hitler , 2 years more to take producction because the stupid wanted a fighter bomber , and after that the most common one was the "just" fighter model
And just one of the stupid ideas of him
@@krosskreut3463 it's a common misconception that the ME262 was delayed because of Hitler.
The main reason for it's late introduction was that it was based on highly experimental technology and
more than half of the required test flight hours were skipped before going into production.
Though the Germans had a lot of high tech machinery available the possible production numbers were still be
too low to really matter.
The ME262 engine for example (Jumo 004) was a good design considering what was available but still it
could have been much more effective if the Germans have had access to Tungsten steel in huge quantities.
Also projects like the Dora rail artillery gun, the V2 + V1 and the Maus tank were a waste of resources since their
effectiveness in combat was too low to justify the costs.
The Germans should rather have concentrated on computer technology, aquisition of rare materials and
a streamlined set of vehicles with focus on compatibility.
Well one can argue about this for hours but the results of WW2 will never change. One can only remember the mistakes
and the horror pictures seen in it and do everything at hand to prevent it from happening again anywhere on the globe.
@@Squee7e wow , amazing , thanks for the explanation , and i with you that the v weapons and the maus were the worst option for so valuable resources (maybe modified thelow powered versions of the v2 as the small a5 and fill it with explosive or ap cap would be a better idea and for planes as high altitude bombs or made then a super pc 1400 of lower or more weight and be a sc like guide bomb) , and i would add the cupole , the unfinnished graff zeppelin (for how long was to be for be finnished) and not made for me good proyects as the he 280 with 4 20 mm guns as the early jet (at least for me) or not made the panther f or 2 insteated of the tiger 2 (at least was good that) or the stupid sturmtiger (was a better idea weapin then with a 150 gun as the hummel (or shorter ) and a casemate as the others but nooo beter a low reload super rocket launcher)
Fisheye you shouldn't pick on se, Americanners.
How to know you are playing Germany? Well your air superiority is being bombed in the base while trying to take off lol
Is this war thunder?
Yes, that's why the video title begins with "IL-2 1946" and why UA-cam displays the game cover of "IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946" under the video. Of course it's WarThunder, when the video description answers the question "What game is this?" with "IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946".
it is cool!!
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В конце было забавно...))
а ПВО,на дне рождения у Фюрера?
Ho Hum
She's my waifu
That pilot is way too big for that plane
智障飛行員
打敵機這麼笨
R
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our Lockheed Shooting Star jet was better than theirs, faster and handled so well that it was used as a trainer into the 1970's
@ , i totally agree.
What that's game play called can anyone tell me?