War of the 8 Princes | MOSTLY ACCURATE HISTORY
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- If you’ve never heard of the War of the Eight Princes, you’re not alone. When it was announced as a new campaign for the Total War game series - many were left scratching their heads. Focused on a forgotten era of Chinese history filled with intrigue, betrayal and murder - where even the winners couldn’t make it out alive. So to clue you in - here’s an accurate history of the War of the Eight Princes. Well. Mostly Accurate.
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I swear to God, Chinese history makes Game of Thrones look like child's-play
Its insane
Its a soap.
Real history is always better, overall, than written. Written fiction based heavily upon a real bit of history is the next best thing. Hence the RoTK novel being fuckin' amazing.
China's history is basically them uniting then breaking apart then uniting then breaking apart then uniting etc. etc. over and over again
but we liked Game of Thrones as well : ). Real good stories will always be appreciated anywhere, anytime, no matter the culture backgrounds.
Cao cao in heaven "I should have recruited zhuge liang"
And cao mao when seeing what a mess sima clan is :"eat shit"
Every body wants to recruit Zhuge liang.... cao cao only hates him because red cliff
Paper Cat not sure why he’d hate him for that. That was all zhou yu. Had nothing to do with zhuge.
@Sima Yi I'm totally agree with you. The LGZ version of RoTK is more bias towards Shu-Han and made out against the Wei. I would say possibly Sima Yi had more upper hand on him.
@@hansottawa There are many advantages, of course. Sima Yi is sticking to Cao's estate. Eating cling to the Cao family
The quality of your videos are highly UNDERRATED. Deserves way more view.
10:20 "-in the hands of the barbarian tribes-"
...but that (The Sixteen Kingdoms) is another story...
So China went from 3 kingdoms to 8 princes to 16 kingdoms?
@@antlantis1234 China went from a lot of chaos/wars to a lot of chaos/wars, then to a lot MORE wars and then to EVEN MORE wars.
It only became relatively stable in Tang Dynasty (618 to 907) and then back to f**king chaos and multiple kingdoms again. Then there was the relatively stable (but not really) Song Dynasty from 960 to 1279, followed by Mongolian invasion and colonisation (Yuan Dynasty 1279 to 1368) which, you guessed it, more chaos and wars, fire and blood.
Then the Ming Dynasty (1368 to 1644) was relatively peaceful (but not really) and then...you guessed it, fking chaos were brought by another Northern tribe, Manchu, which ruled China in its LAST dynasty ever - Qing Dynasty (1644 to 1912) which was filled with ethnic conflicts between Man and Han people, and a bunch of princes fighting against each other for the throne.
After that, it was anti-feudal uprisings and revolutions, conflicts between domestic warlords, European colonisations, Japanese genocidal invasion (WW2), bloody civil war between Mao (Communist Party) and Jiang (Nationalist Party), and then Communist ruling until now.
So yeah. That's just a super brief summary of Chinese history, AKA Game of Thrones non-stop for 4000+ years.
Now you know why so many Chinese people want to migrate to other parts of the world.
JLhannah24 gonna binge watch them soon
@@antlantis1234 Basically, china was punished for the better part of a thousand years because Han did in fact have heaven’s mandate and Cao Pi’s ambition cursed the land with incompetent, blood thirsty usurpers.
I choose to believe this because it at least tries to make sense of why China for years couldn’t stop KILLING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN PETTY POWER STRUGGLES.
If there’s no pic I wouldn’t have known who’s who..
This is amazing!
Note, I think you mistakenly referred to Sima Ai as Sima Yi at 6:01, but that aside this whole video is fantastic. Thanks for making it!
Fun fact. His name is both Ai and Yi as it depends on how you translate it. It was still a mistake on my part but technically not wrong.
Cody Bonds Oh neat!
乂 could be Ai, or Yi（义）
Sima Yan should have been a legendary character. He founded a dynasty.
I'm surprised there has been no dynasty warriors spinoff game based on this affair.
6:55 Never trust anyone named Yue(h).
9:44 hey look It's Liu Bei!
What a tragic.family
So... many... names...
Yep. That's why I used the portraits, it helps to keep them straight.
their names are all so similar I can never remember anyone from chinese history outside of cao cao.. and mainly because I remember him as chocolate. seriously... they are all just one syllable names! ai, dong, yong, song hai wai lai lei wei pei wai ... its so confusing...
It's difficult for me to keep it straight as well, as I've never encountered this history before. That's one reason I try to make sure there is a related picture of the person on screen each time I say their name.
Which one of them actually cared about the emperor?
No one, even Sima Ai . He care more about peoples, but too bad he get burned to death.
@@MrStupidarmy Man that sucks... Felt kinda bad for the Emperor with that many scheming Prince around.
@@MrStupidarmy ai really cared thought. the moment when he was burned alive sing a poem about his cousin the emperor that make most of the soldier cried
Some historian believed the Emperor was developmentally disabled, so he only good for a figure head.
Not entirely sure about the names or the entire context, but when the puppet Emperor’s brother or cousin got betrayed and captured by some general, he took the time to write a goodbye letter to sneak out to Hui before being executed. You wouldn’t spend your last days or hours-not frantically plotting a way out for survival, but instead writing a letter to your brother, unless you were at the very least fond of the guy.
miles too confusing all the names sound the same
well , thats end ..... fk ... lel
please do more noobs guide for warhammer
Specific one you're interested in?
any of the tomb kings
@@codybonds The tomb king guy that started in northern lustria i forgot what his name is
Monarchs desired soft lives, so they desired being in power.
If not in power, their soft life was taken away. They were addicted to the dopamine hit of a soft life of
absolute power, and elimination of all those who would resist and impinge on their dopamine. Humans
are driven by desire for dopamine, and a soft life is like an endless supply of that - once its taken away, everything else is bland. It's hard to get off the dopamine of a soft life. So much so, that the monarchs are
willing to muder their own family to get that hit back. It really was quite a degenerate situation.
People constantly reference Game of Thrones, because it applies to nearly any situation with monarchies that are in any way unstable.
"THEY'RE MAKING THE FRIGGIN FROGS CROAK." - Sima Alex Jones
You made me laugh out loud. Thanks dude
"If they make them croak again, I'm telling you, TWO EIGHTY AD is gonna happen again. TWO EIGHTY AD!"
😂
Sima Jones
Today on how to self destruct an Empire 101
Oh, like you’re one to talk, Tarkin. How’s that backlash from Alderaan treating you?
Oh, wait, you got blown up for that. That‘s everything you need to know. The prosecution rests.
Any king figure in the history: Dies with having more than one son
Kingdom: Ah shit, here we go again.
Which is why you always want a clear line of succession.
@Robert Claus
Would a clear line of succession have worked in China? I mean what's stopping this drama when there are so many sons.
@@johnrockwell5834 "Clear line of Succession" was only a fantasy back in that particular period of Chinese History. Please allow me to elaborate:
1, An Imperial house can not solely rule by themselves, they had to rely on the helps & alliances of powerful regional nobles, whom were the backbones of manorial economic system at the time. Also a fair amount of high-ranking government official positions had to be shared among them, and some times political marriages with the Crowned Prince had to be made. The imperial house had to deal with them with extreme caution, Emperor Wu of Jin himself stole the throne from the Cao family following his father's and grandfather's steps.
2, Naturally the Crowned Prince will be put into essential civil & military positions after coming of age, exp: Deputy Army Marshal, Deputy Minister, while his own staff would be assigned to. Not only to make sure he'd become a more qualified ruler, but also very importantly, NOT become a PUPPET for the powerful noble house in the future. Such methods sounds all rational & logical, however there's a very DEADLY side-effect: Crowned Princes whom had been put into such position have a common trend to plot to murder and overthrown their fathers to seek power sooner, while their fathers have a similar common trend to arrest and execute the sons out of such fear as well. There were many examples trough out history, even among some of the emperors considered the greatest.
3, Now imagine you are an emperor in such dilemma, name a adult, smart, competent son as Crowned Prince there's a high chance you'll end up killing each other. Name a child, or in this case mentally disable, incompetent son, he'll probably end up as a puppet or be killed by someone else. Emperor Wu of Jin did this, he sent his cousins, nephews, members of his own families (the princes) to important regions, with prominent military & civil powers. Hence creates a balance between noble houses, imperial family members, and imperial courts. Personally I'd say it was the best he could've done at the time. Even if it ended up a total mess.
@Cheng Kane
Thoughts on Europe in their succession? Did they do better than the Chinese?
@@johnrockwell5834 it's centralisation vs feudalism, and I'm really not a expert on European history, all I know it's that once pure bureaucrat classes completely replaced nobles in the political system at around 8th to 9th Century in China, succession stopped been a problem at all.
It's tragic how brothers fought each other and brought China to chaos again. If y'all think about it, their wars are petty compared to the likes of Sun Jian, or Cao Cao, or Liu Bei.
They werent actually brothers. Just related
@Adrian It's kinda complicated, Sima Lun & Sima Liang are brothers and sons of Sima Yi. Sima Yue is the grandson of Sima Yi's brother Sima Kui. Sima Yong is the grandson of Sima Yi's brother Sima Fu. Sima Wei and Sima Ai are brothers and grandsons of Sima Zhao, brother of Liang and Lun. Sima Ying is the halfbrother of Ai and Zhao. Sima Jiong is the cousin of all three of them. Then there are the emperor bloodlines but it gets even more convoluted
"Brothers" is a stretch, only a handful were actually brothers and even then, more likely than not did not have the same mother and were raised separately. Besides, they were all groomed to be count nobles and royalty where trust in one another really isn't taught.
@@KittenCritters wait, Sima Ying is the half brother of Sima Ai and Sima Zhao, but Sima Ai is the grandson of Sima Zhao....what? how? Sima Zhao's mom would have to be involved in some weird crap where one of Sima Zhao's sons has a kid with his mom...
@@andrewle7429 Half-brother of Ai and Wei, In confused myself trying to write it even
"LETS MOVE THE CAPITAL TO CHANG'AN"
Dong Zhuo: I wouldn't do that if i were you
The Ghost of Dong Zhuo advised against it, and then the Sima Prince said "Who the hell are you!?"
@@minuteman3317 DZ: "I'm your Father!"
Prince: "NOOO!!!"
Fun fact. The reason why Emperor Wu had such a huge harem with over a thousand concubines was because he decreed that every noble family had to supply him with courtesans. Because he had too many women to shag and had to use a goat as a sort of "eenie meenie miny moe" and picked whichever door the goat stopped at. Because of this some of his concubines cleverly left salt outside their door because goats like licking salt.
Didn't know the first part. I just figured no one taught him how to share as a child.
I don't think the Hebrew Bible was an book well known in China. The fall of Solomon is directly attributed to his 1000 large harem and was about a millennia before the 8 Princes period.
History does like to repeat itself.
@@artofthepossible7329 plus i mean at the time, how many ppl would've been able to translate Hebrew into Ancient Chinese script? i feel like that task in of itself is like winning the lottery if u could find such a person at the time.
@@andrewle7429 As there was Roman coins from the 5 Good Emperors period in China, it wouldn't be too out of place to find Hebrews among the Chinese population, great wanderers to escape persecution and all that, but as the farthest I can get for translated copies of the Bible was the 1800s, although version likely existed during the Mongol empire and the Yuan dynasty.
Last part is a bit shocking. Was Wu handsome for them? Were standards really that low?
Sima Ai best boy. Ironically he starts in Changsha like my other best boy Sun Jian
ElectableDane there s no irony there, changsha does tend to produce good people and im proud to say im from there ;)
Straight shooter, quick temper, and slightly over average fighter. Those are good people.
@@junnengchen5895 damn man changsha has some good food too
kabigon Spicy food da best!
between the 2, i prefer Sima Ai's playstyle, tech and infrastructure development, and Jing Infantry and Archers r nice . tho it is annoying that any building chain that increases food reduces "Reform"....
I'm disappointed Cody didn't mention that Sima Ai was the only kindest person in a family of dicks, when he was about to be burned alive Sima Ai wrote a letter to his brother Emperor Hui, and it was said that the men who watched him burned alive was outraged by it.
Liu did actually but few century after with Rise of Sui Dynasty
Sima yi is probably screeching from the heavens when this is happening
And Cao Cao is laughing saying "serves you right you treacherous so and so!", as whatever their problems, the Cao family stuck together.
@SovietBiscuit the worst mistake was when Cao Shuang tried to demote Sima Yi.
"IMBECILES!!!"
Cao cao and sima yi are fighting while zhuge liang , liu bei and the 5 tiger generals are watching having a good laugh and eating popcorn
Malik Rahman technically, it’s not a demotion. Sims Yi was promoted to the position of Grand Tutor, but that took away all his military authority.
Cao Cao knew that Sima Yi would be a threat in the future and would one day usurp the Cao dynasty. There is a story that after one particular meeting with Cao Cao and while Sima Yi was about to leave, Cao Cao shouted Sima Yi's name behind his back and Sima Yi made the gesture of turning only his head at Cao and not his body. This was known as 'the wolf's gaze' and Cao Cao knew that only a man with great ambition and cunning could make such a gesture. Another story is that Cao Cao once had a dream of three horses (The 'ma' in the name Sima means horse) eating straws in a manger (The word 'cao' means manger). In retrospect, in indicates that Sima Yi and his two sons (the three horses) would one day consume the Cao family (manger). From then on, Cao Cao became very wary of Sima Yi's power and influence and warned his son that Sima Yi was not content in being under his authority and would certainly interfere in his affairs. Nevertheless, Cao needed Sima Yi to aid his son in fighting against Zhuge Liang and therefore could not afford to get rid of him. Hence Cao Cao was partly responsible for his own dynasty's downfall.
well Sima Yi's family eventually ate themselves inside out
Also with the rise of barbarian tribes, northern China entered the "16 Kingdoms" period, that's another story though.
I'm surprised they didt put in the empress as a faction like dong zhuo
While making this history she became the one I was most interested to play. It's a real shame she wasn't finished for the game. She even has a unique unused model.
@@codybonds hopefully they add her later
@@codybonds She has an in game model~? Waaah?
@@codybonds is there somewhere that we can see it?
@@GA_Thrawn445 I think Cody is referring to the trailer model.
You seem to have had added a zero at 7:25 - I've always seen that number sourced as 10,000. The slaves were actually concubines that Zhang Fang originally took as sex slaves for his men, but then ordered cannibalized when they ran into a food shortage. Cruel bastard.
Just double checked my notes. You're right I misread it. I even put 10,000 in the script. Though I still believe it's unlikely it was all slave women and frankly doubt the event happened at all. But it does aptly describe the barbarity of the era.
@@codybonds I've read in quite a few places that numbers of armies were greatly exaggerated lol
Wow I didnt know Evenicle was based on a true story
@@masonarmand8988 This is China we're talking about, where there's bodies to throw into the grinder everywhere.
Jfc
I am a Chinese, highly educated, kind of an expert in history. However, I cannot even pronounce the names of the 8 princes correctly, and hopelessly confused about this part of history.
It’s ok it’s before your language was modernized.
In US we even speak a different English dialect to Mother Britannia
Sima Zhong's son, the Crown Prince Jia Nanfeng schemed against, Sima Yu was rumored to be a genius. Depending on which historical narrative you believe this was the reason that Sima Yan was so insistent that his intellectually incapable son be the heir despite the fact that there were a whole buttload of capable princes (born from his own loins no less)- because this grandchild of his was so intelligent he was rumored to be the next Sima Yi. Jia Nanfeng would not harbor a crown prince not born from her own womb, however, and sabotaged his education, his development, and did everything possible to get rid of his short of killing him... and then killed him in the end anyway.
Truth be told she was not really any worse than any of the other princes scheming for control of the throne. If she managed to maintain control she would have been remembered in history as a brutal but fair dictator. Instead, she lost power and without a strong legacy of prosperity to offset her brutality, all popular history remembers her is for the increasingly brutal things she did in her bid to maintain control.
@Akin Khoo actually it was yang jun who broke the status quo by conspiring against sima liang
yeah, classic "I'll make my good for nothing son the heir so when he die my genius grandson will become the emperor when he die" move. what can go wrong
Sima Ai and Sima Liang mains, bro. Mostly Ai, for me, personally.
"Good doesn't mean your're gonna win." That's deep.
You certainly made good use of the character portraits and the event pictures as well!
But the story still seems quite confusing, maybe I'm just bad at remembering names.
That's why I tried to keep the faces up there when talking about them. The names are not easy to remember.
Admirable that even after the emperors pass away the frogs CROAK tirelessly
司马乂in the game is called sima ai but actually called sima yi， ca changed the pronunciation to avoid confusion
Wikipedia recognizes him as Sima Ai as well. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sima_Ai
@@codybonds wikipedia is wrong
@@gonavygonavy1193 Wikipedia isn't strictly wrong- the character used for Ai/Yi has two pronunciations (see en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E4%B9%82). This isn't the first time ancient peoples' names have been pronounced differently - consider Caesar (which I'm assuming you pronounced in your head with a soft C, not the "correct" hard C) or Zhang Jue/Jiao (Jiao being the more modern of the two pronounciations).
@Akin Khoo It’s read Ai even noted in Jiyun (集韻) and Kangxi Dictionary (康熙字典).
The pronunciation of this word in Mandarin Chinese somehow evolved to Yi.
In Mandarin Chinese it is pronounced yi, but in older version dictionary(especially those written before CCP made Chinese pronunciation standardized ) and Taiwan dict it has both ai and yi pronunciations. Also 乂exists in Japanese kanji, and some say it could be pronounced as がい(gai) (I’m not good at Japanese so I’m not very sure about that)
So calling him Sima Ai s is okay, but probably we will never know if his real name should be yi or ai
Sima ai was the only decent person with actual capabilities of the eight and was betrayed and burned alive for his prestige , truly tragic
Ambition and greed is a terrible thing. I loved this expansion though. If I remember all these relationships correctly, Liang and Lun are brothers as both are sons of Sima Yi. Wei, Ai and Ying are brothers since they are sons of Sima Yan. Jiong is their cousin since he is the son of Sima You. Yong and Yue are grandsons of Sima Yi's brothers so they are cousins of Liang and Lun once removed.
Even hardcore fans of ancient China history like us are typically unfamiliar with this part of history, all we know was bunch of so called "nobles" with surname Sima gathering troops from both Chinese farmers and babarian tribes to fight each other.
Literally not even a century after the three kingdoms its shattered again
A century? The civil wars started within a decade of the Fall of Wu.
Sima wei was actually a really good commader and warrior, its kinda shocking how he died so easily
I am from Changsha. Yes, we do produce the best princes
Dude opening gate to the barbarian is not only downfall of Jin, but also catastrophic for the entire Han ethnic.
I'm sure this video is much appreciated. It's so much less fun when you don't know the history or the characters you are supposed to rp.
I admire you for diving into this. I love history, but I've always found it difficult to grasp Chinese history due to my lack of knowledge of the language.
Keeping the pictures of each relevant person onscreen is the only way I could keep it straight.
I see that Yuan Shao resurrected as a prince. Can never keep that vassalizing bastard down.
Jia Nanfeng is the great version of Cercei Lanister.
Do a video for each of the eight princes, just like you did with the warlords of the three kingdooms
There's just not enough info on them to warrant a separate video for each. I'll probably do one video that covers all their game mechanics but this is their whole story in one go.
@@codybonds Well..if you want to know more detailed history about the princes .There are 8 episodes made by Serious Trivia that cover almost all of the war and why it happened. It's really interesting,you should check it
@@codybonds en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Jin#Annals_(%E7%B4%80) Eight princes' biographies are all noted in Volume 59, and Empress Jia's is in Part 7 of Volume 31, Emperor Hui in Volume 4. Although there's no translation in the Internet, there is book in Amazon.
Great video but a little wrong at 0:31. Emperor 'Wu' is a posthumous name, which is not given by himself but by others after the person's death. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posthumous_name
And this is why you never trust anyone with the family name of Sima unless their name is either Liang or Ai.
Oh good, now that this video is out I can finally play the DLC. PS this was a great video
Thanks. It took about 3x longer to make than my normal ones. And I personally just can't get into a historical game if I don't know something about who I'm dealing with.
@@codybonds I feel the same. I'm only really now getting into the base 3K after watching your videos and a smattering of the 2010 show itself.
Thanks Cody. Was waiting for this video. Cool and concise as usual.
But not funny? I meant this one to be humorous but nobody has mentioned that. Poop jokes are high art!
@@codybondsOk . They were funny mate. Not Richard Pryor, David Chapelle funny, but funny all t he same lol. thanks for the vids
Its nice you put character designs from Total war and ROTK together as comparison.
It's clear Total War got the idea from ROTK. I was surprised how similar the art styles were.
@@codybonds yup, the only difference is CA characters are more crude and realistic than the fantasied Koei characters.
Im suprised the decendents of liu and sun didnt attempted reestablish their old kingdoms during all this
In conclusion: brother kills his brother to take his brother throne and then his another brother killed his own brother to take his throne with the help of the Wicked witch
YONG PLAY YING LIKE A DAMM FIDDLE
He was in his teen when the war broke oit
I've been wondering for so long.. why couldn't Koei adapted this event much further on into the Dynasty Warriors franchise? I mean I get this storyline on what I heard is a bit darker.. so I'm guessing Koei didn't want to do it..
Dong zhuo: seems i wasnt the only tyrant and enyone followed my way of imperial ambition 😈
Best thing about Chinese history is no matter how fucked up or chaotic the nation is, some random ass general always manages to gather shit ton of troops like how Russians build Strelet in age of empire.
I find it funny that that every chinese prince, general, minister, concubine, etc. can raise an army of 100s of thousands in the blink of an eye.
Keep in mind that the population of China was about 60 Million which put them about the same as the Roman Empire at its height. Considering Roman emperors could raise the legions to 650K its possible that separate Princes can raise about 100k Each
I swear... Roman/Byzantine and Chinese history makes Game of Thrones look tame a fuck.
I wish the characters displayed here where moved into MTU Eight Princes or something.
Yo, where's the HBO adaptation of this thing? Would blow game of thrones out of the water.
Not enough asian actors
Wait for Total War, Mongols Empire
I like these types of videos you're making. They're fun and informative.
This one is for not only Cody Bonds but anyone that knows. Where can I find the most information on the eight princes? I've looked at wiki and Googled it. Any help in addition to these sources would be loved! Help!
I could not find any resources in English when I made this. Hopefully someone knows of a Chinese translation that will help.
@@codybonds thanks man for the quick response. I love you're work!
@@jeremyminten5340 The only work I know of is one by Rafe de Crespigny. The guy who CA used as their historic advisor. And it is a small part of a larger book on the era.
@@codybonds yessss! I was wondering who they used! This is very helpful thanks man!
What I'm learning is that being good is more detrimental than being an evil piece of shit...why History...why.
I don't think it's just a thing of the past sadly. There's a certain level of mercilessness and exploitation required to rise to leadership positions, as well as a desire for power.
@@codybonds maybe humanity is destined to kill itself :\
A lot of Chinese history could be solved just by making sure the emperor isn’t a child or mentally disabled.
It's not hard to create new games off total war. Just use the same map from Three Kingdoms, and readjust the story line and characters.
Empress Jia Nanfeng is way too pretty in the games. History recorded that she is short, plumb and deeply tanned skin. Worst still, she is horrendously ugly.
Sad that Sima Yi's efforts came to this
Karma, that's what happens, Cao should be the only family that won the war of three kingdoms.
Why is it subsumed under the three kingdoms era? Would it be more appropriate if it is subsumed under the Jin dynasty instead?
The game the art assets are drawn from is Total War: There Kingdoms
This mess started less than a decade after the Fall of Wu, the Jin dynasty imploded very quickly.
I love all the mash ups of portraits from Koei :)
This war really messed china real bad.
Normally this event is called the "rebellion of the eight lord " in China
The government orders the frogs to croak
I kinda recognize some the names because of playing Dynasty Warriors 7... Or it was 5? I forget ('^^ I'm not well versed in the Chinese history.
But your quick & humorous way of telling the (mostly) accurate history of this game is nice x3
7 is the game that includes the Sima family's rise to power.
SIMA YI: "Srly?!"
9:45 Sima Chi. isn’t that Liu Bei’s character portrait from the ROT3K games by Koei?
so.... much betrayal and backstabbing. it's like the gods said i'm in the mood to binge some soaps.
Yep that’s why China has a different culture than democratization of the West.
I frankly don’t blame them not even Russia had a better history
I thought Sima Ai was innocent
Wow, the history of China was so complexed
So damn informative, thank you
He bravely run away. Njce
Guess none of the princes know about the dictator's handbook
Yup..then it cause 400yrs of constant warfare..until Sui managed to unify China again however at a great cost to the Sui dynasty which pave the way for Tang to succeed it
And one more time I'm strengthened in the assumption that China just can't do small: If they do well they really do well; If they screw up, they *really* screw up
8:05 - let's TAKE the Emperor - AND MOVE HIM SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everyone with the name Berg is happy again
6:05 - should be sima AI
So......whatever happened to the rest of the warlords in 3K and maybe the Eight Princes videos?
This is a fucking mess. lol
Huh having known next to nothing about the 8 Princes I picked Sima Yue and won the campaign in the end.
Other than your dreadful pronunciation of Chinese names the history is enjoyable.
Just awesome!
After watching the Advisor's Alliance, I want to make things right.
You should do a profile on each Prince.
If this DLC had sold better I would. But as is nobody talks about it anymore.
@@codybonds too bad I actually like it.
battleroyal in map of Jin empire lol