Defeat of Socialism in the USSR (Urdu)
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2021
- Dr. Taimur Rahman speaks about the defeat of socialism in the USSR at the political school organised by National Students Federation at Research and Publications Centre, Lahore 4 June 2021.
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People often confuse "private property" with "personal property" or "personal objects"! The two are quite distinct.
Sir admire your courage and work. Allah Almighty give you strength peace and prosperity Amen
ِبڑا اہم موضوع ہے۔ بطور سوشیالوجسٹ اور سوشلزم کے طالب علم کے میرے لیے یہ بڑا اہم سوال تھا۔ میں نے ابھی ویڈیو دیکھی نہیں ہے مگر موضوع دیکھ کر سامنے ہے کہ کتنی اہم ویڈیو ہے اور لازماً دیکھی جانی چاہیے.
I wonder. how a well researched lecture of this caliber is free. It identifies that Dr Taimur Rahman truly loves the common peoples of this society. He conclude his lecture by saying that 'theoretical struggle is the most important struggle (toward a communist state)'. For this struggle we have to read Marx in the background of Pakistan. Thank you Sir for such a historical lecture.
As a Marxist I believe knowledge should be free and available to all.
@@Taimur_Laal Long live Comrade.
@@Taimur_Laalas ever, well put.
Please watch this , they had this discussion after Dr Asatar Bair had a tweet about Stalin trending. I've commented there and mentioned you.
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Thanks comrade for such a coherent view of history… Lal salaam✊🏻
Dr. Rehman, your face resembles 90% with my elder brother Rajinder. 😃 My parents migrated from Kabirwala Trihaiyanwala Multan in 1947.
I am From Kabirwala😇
There is nothing in the face...... The face of our village cowherd resembles 95% to Mukesh Ambani....
@@danishchaudhary2.0 My maternal grandfather named Khan Chand was tenant share cropper of sone Muslim landlord in Trihaiyanwala village. Landowner had also alloted him a house in the village and land for tilling.
@@mohinderkumar7298 What was the name of that Muslim landlord?
Actually we are not locals , wo also migrated from India to here!!
@@danishchaudhary2.0 I don't know landlord's name in Trihaiyanwala village. My mother died in 2018. My grandfather's name was Khan Chand. Villagers might know which landlord had Khan Chand tenant whom the Landlord helped profusely even to the extent of arranging Tobacco, rice, roasted blackgram loaded on Mare for use / consumption on the way or for the time period of 1 month during which my grandfather with family stayed at platform of Khanewal railway station before train journey for Amritsar / Kurukshetra was arranged.
Knowledge, information and intellect - right combination of these three factors is Dr Taimur Rehman's lecture and analysis. We are lucky to have professor like him in today's dark Pakistan
Love this
And I am lucky to have you as a friend comrade Asjad. Thank you for your support over all these years.
Speaking a bit too fast.
Yes sir and you are doing marvellous work in theoretical framework. People are listening you and learning from you in far flung areas by watching your vedios.
More power to you🚩🚩 Laal Slaam
Dr.Taimur excellent point. We are looking for causes of collapse of Soviet Union in 1989 in the events of 1930s!! We barely analyse bogeys of Perestroika, Glastnot --the events that emerged out of nowhere just prior to the 1989 Collapse of USSR. Except Russia, barely any of the other 14 Republics shed parasitism. They chose to have RUTHLESS OVERDEPENDENCE on Russia for over 70 years. These 14 Republics themselves were burden on USSR and invited ruthlessness to quell their mediocrity and prolonged stagnancy. Russia was overstretched. Recall Stalin's birthplace Georgia on the eve of 1989 Collapse of USSR. Highly reactionary! They (Estonia, Lithuania, Georgia) as parasites took out HAMMER from the symbol of Soviet flag in 1980s to ape America's bogey of liberalism and individualism. The result?
Subtitles are required to understand your views completely. You've explained this concept very beautifully
Lal Salam, from Kerala...India...
Mashalllah ! I always wait for your informative talk
You are the person of this era who can change and save pakistan
After seeing super power fail with this concept ...!
Sir u r an amazing teacher and an inspirational speaker.. i love your energy.. and your way of teaching.. keep it up sir!!!!!
I must say that after listening to your lectures, I am gaining a completely different view on Communism and Socialism. In the West and also Islamic societies, Communism is seen as evil and anti religion. I believe we need to study Marxism, Socialism, Communism, Leninism, Maoism and Stalinism on their own terms and on their own merits and demerits.
Hi Taimur. Can you please release a version of this video in English? Or perhaps add sub titles?
I love your lectures , sir.
Very helpful lecture but Dr. It would be really helpful if you can explain post Stalin period and post krushev period in detail. Also discuss about Cambodia, Cuban, Vietnam, Korea economic models too and why they are very different from ex-soviet and China model. Thanks in advance.
Thanks sir ur videos r really helping
Sir, May I get Dr.Azeem's lecture on Marx's history you mentioned in the beginning of your speech? though I got reached your lecture late
Sir dr syed azeem sahab k lectur jin ka ap ny zikr kia h wo kahan uploaded hen? Kindly share link.
Taimur Sir where can I find your book on fall of USSR which you mentioned earlier in lecture
Please Sir
I love the way u explain the things...
Absolutely easy and informative video, specially for new learners.
کامریڈ بڑے اہم سوالات تھے ذہن میں جِن کا آپ نے اِس ویڈیو میں جواب دے دیا ہے۔
I tried a search for the book "The Long March" that you have a picture of in the beginning of the video and I was not able to find it. Does anyone know how I could get it?
It is a forthcoming work. Not yet published.
Our leader ,our love our dignity sir taimor Rahman❣️❣️❣️❣️love from pakhtunkhwa
Sir can u make a lecture series on subcontinent intellectuals of
british india like sir syed , mau azad,
Tilak etc
It is in our kashmir university syllabus@
Pg pol science
Very informative video
And new perspective for us
Would please give the same lecture in English? ??
Sorry, this one was dissappointing when compared to your other videos, seemed like a lot of hand waving and presentation of an incomplete picture which is understandable given the time constraints.
I would love to see a more rigourous presentation of these arguments maybe in a series of videos like the Arab-Israeli one, if and when you can get the time.
One of the best video from you sir👍👍
All people are equal in moral ethics but different in resources
Where can I find the other lectures you mentioned?
This lecture was much needed. A powerful reply.
Dr. Taimor Sir,,,, glamour of Lahore
I wish there were English subtitles.
Me too.
Can you please explain domestic structures?? I have read somewhere that collapse of domestic structure was the main reason for the demise of Soviet Union likewise in Afghanistan Somalia and Sudan..rather than aggression from some outside force??
Sir please uyghurs ki history or current situation pe koi short video banen
Where can I get your book?
I'm very interested in the "salary system" during the Stalin period. The Trotsky bit was quite interesting. About his Euro centrism, Trotsky critism about Stalin was also about the nature of his "brutal Asiatic" rule. I remember reading some long essay about Stalin by Trotsky and he made a big thing it. Was a while back now, I should revisit it. Even Stalin himself referred to himself as Asiatic. His daughter called him Asian in this old UK interview I was just watching. Must of been some significance attached to this, asians been seen to be authoritarian by nature. Unenlightened and undemocratic unlike Europeans.
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Oh there is a book called Oriental Despotism a comparative study of total power written in 1957. Not read it but the title tells me that feeds into the stereotype too.
There's actually an interesting blog called The Oriental Despot by Jay Tharappel where he has an article called Anti-Stalinism is left wing racism .
It's very important lecture
why its a already failed ideology ...
This lecture is powerful slept on capitilism.Laaal Salaaam Comrade Taimur
slept nhi slap hota hai
The Soviet system was in the Museum of History. Now at present new system in Russia. Russian Republic not or no more Soviet Union. There is no more Berlin wall. This wall was destroyed by the common people of Germany.
Prof. Rahman, I know you are a very busy man. I'd love to hear something like this in English. You are a great teacher
H4
Now I have completely another idea of what ISSR was. Sir you have completely changed my opinons about socialism and specially the numbers of death of Socialism. I am now your big fan.
Also learn from other side too...
Hello Sir, Can u recommend any book regarding why USSR broke?
Hello. Even though it's not a book, it might be interesting. This is a video (with English closed captions) reflecting the viewpoint of Russian Marxists.
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I think title may be "Defeat of Whatever in the Name of Socialism in USSR" Or "Defeat of Experimental Socialism in USSR" Or Defeat of State Capitalism in USSR".......
God bless you sir.. love you soo much..❤️
The child in 9:30 so cute.
ڈاکٹر تیمور کیا میں آپ سے فون پر رابطہ کر سکتی ہوں،؟
Great explanation! 🙇🏻♂️
Free market
Unfree citizens
Sir kindly upload the lecture of Syed Azeem which held before you.
Regards
That will be uploaded from NSF page.
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Thank you sir please don't forget to share the link when it upload.
Sir Dr syed azeem ka lecture kaha upload ho ga?
On NSF page.
@@Taimur_Laal can you please mention the page or link?
Great explaination
Dear can you enlist some primary books to understand Marxism?
Plz answer Sir,
The world is progressing with the passage of time. Like racism is there but has been reduced, misogyny is there but lower than before, there are the UNO and Amnesty Intl for human rights and there is democracy instead of monarchies.
My question is that if the world is accepting overwhelmingly those ideas which are beneficial for humanity and Socialism is good for humanity instead of capitalism then why is the world not accepting socialism? What are the obstacles?
The whole of 20th century is the advance of socialist ideas.
@@Taimur_Laal ...thank u sir..
Great sir.
Excellent Sir.
"How small of all that human hearts endure that part that kings or laws can cause cure"
Samoule johnson
The main point has been missed. The international great debate between the Chinese and Soviet communist parties.
The main defect in the policy of Soviet government after Stalin's death was that it took socialism as something negotiable. Khrushchev declared that since socialism had been built in two large countries, there was no need for revolution in other countries anymore. They would gain socialism with the help of those two countries. Thus, he denied the necessity of the class struggle in those countries. As a result, Nehru and Indira became the leaders of the working people in their eyes. Actually, it was an imperialist policy in the garb of socialism. Mao Tsetung stood against it and finally the Chinese communist party stated that the Soviet leaders were the "new Tsars of Russia".
We in our childhood had a taste of such imperialist policies of USSR. The Soviet engineers in Bokaro steel plant had a huge difference in wages in comparison to their Indian counterparts. They had their own colony into which Indians had no entry. The steel produced in the plant was taken away to USSR at a throwaway price. The Indian government nationalised many sectors and their profits were sent to USSR in lieu of petroleum. USSR spread similar business in many countries of the third world. This created a class within a class and the Bourgeoisie began to rise again within USSR. Gorbachev's moves were the culmination of these events.
Courtesy- Dr. Nabarun Ghoshal
What? Defeat of the Socialist Model in the former USSR? And who defeated him? Who won instead? What Economic Model was left in place of Socialism? And finally, the most important question: Why?
sosialism defeated by its own people , who rejected this idea and , capitalism won ,but its also failing to solve human problem, now Islamic economy model is left , because its the only solution that could bring justice .
@@digitalfactory6502 You are confused. There is no such thing as an "Islamic" Economic Model. Islam is RELIGION, and not Economy. Now, I will explain to you what Communism is and its result: SOCIALISM. Maybe you confuse the word Communism with Dictatorship. U R wrong in the concepts. Communism is an Economic Model to Manage the wealth of a nation. Communism Does Not Rule cuz it is NOT a Political System. The Dictatorship Yes! Governs a country, and it can be a Right-wing Dictatorship, an Ultra-Right or Fascist Dictatorship. Or It can be a Dictatorship of the Left, be it Socialist or Communist. You have heard of Communism, but you DO NOT know what Communism is. U don't know the good Communism has done to the US people. To understand it, U should see with careful eyes what Capitalism is. Without the appearance of Communism, you would be living within an entirely Capitalist Gov’t System (I said System, and not Model), and you would not have benefits for work, SRSW (Special Rights of the Specialized Worker); a fair salary, rewards and compensation, health coverage and accidents; Social Security, retirement, paid vacations, 8-hour days, 2-days off. Nursery and maternity... you would have nothing. NO Right to protest and demonstrate, and even less, the Right to Strike. The US has all that and it is thanks to the theories of Communism. Look: Communism is an Economic Model, and NOT precisely a Gov’t System. [* Gov't System, or Political System are: Monarchy; Dictatorship; Theocracy, Democracy and Republic. The Economic Models are: Capitalism, Communism, Socialism (which can also be a Political System), Free Market (which leads to Imperialism or Liberalism), Mixed Economy, and, Centralized Economy. The Gov’t System, GOVERNMENT. The Economic Model, ADMINISTER or MANAGES.] Well then, Communism is an Economic Model that up to now has NOT been applied anywhere on the planet. Why? Cuz Communism is INAPPLICABLE. Communism is a Utopia impossible to impose. It is a wonderful dream. Fantastic Dream! It is a great theory; extraordinary but, in reality IT DOES NOT WORK. For you to understand, there is a comparison. Communism is like Christianity. As you should know, Christianity is based on charity, kindness, tolerance, and self-denial. In good thoughts and best deeds but, it is IMPOSSIBLE to achieve that. Nobody is a good Christian. We are envious, violent, cheating, or self-righteous. Nobody turns the other cheek; no one keeps the Ten Commandments. The idea is good, but it is inapplicable. Well, the same thing happens with Communism. Only two countries have declared themselves communist: The USSR and China. (Now, at this moment, and since the events of Tiananmen Square (1989), China is an Free Market Open Economy. Cuba and Korea are Socialists too). But since the theory of the Communist Economic Model is an Unapplicable Utopia, today neither China nor Russia are communists today. They are one-party parliamentary dictatorships. The same is happening in Cuba. And what was left of Communism? SOCIALISM. Today, Norwegian, Sweden, Finland, Poland, Germany, Austria, France, Luxenburg, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Greece and 33 of the 35 countries of the American Continent are Socialists. The US Democratic Party is Socialist. Even Socialism, due to its scope and application, can be considered a Political System. Socialism, being a Model, can work with the Monarchy, the Dictatorship, or with Democracy. Works well with all Systems, as long as CORRUPTION is eradicated. And now, History: In the year 1524-25, there was in Germany, the Peasant War ("Erhebung des gemeinen Mannes"), this war was falsely associated with the religious revolts of Martin Luther, but in reality, it was a peasant uprising against the nobility headed by the Emp. Karl V, who slavishly exploited his people, supported by the Church of Rome. As you can read on Wikipedia, it ended in a massacre, because the monarchy, ALL MONARCHIES, ended their social problems with a massacre. In this case, there were almost 100,000 deaths in six months. However, the atrocity left something worth rescuing: All the European kingdoms saw that it was convenient to give the peasants better treatment, or they would rise to cut off their heads (French Revolution). It also established that the Common Man could organize himself socially, economically and politically, without the intervention of the feudal lord, if they worked in COMMON, thinking of the community, for the benefit not of a landowner, but for the Commonwealth. And it worked...! Nine years before the massacre, Saint Thomas More wrote a seminal work for modern sociology: Utopia (1516; an ideal society). In light of the events that occurred in Germany, and later in Tuscany, French Provence and Spanish Flanders, this work was accused of attacking "God and the King" and was prohibited by Pope Clement VII. In those times, King and Church ruled the world. In 1535 he was tried by order of King Henry VIII, accused of high treason for not rejecting the Church of Rome, in the face of the emergence of the Anglican Church, nor accepting the "Act of Supremacy", which declared the kings as head of this new Church. More lost his; they beheaded him. Time passed; the French Revolution broke out under the motto: Freedom; Equality and Fraternity (Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité) the same words that appear written in Sir Thomas More's "Utopia". Three centuries passed, and new thinkers emerged who addressed social issues. Feudalism was disappearing and its place was taken by Capital. However, the wealthy could not have the prestige of the monarchy or the Church, so they made a pact with them and bought their titles. After hundreds of wars and millions of deaths, the new "Sir, Lord, Baronet, Counts and Marques" arrived... paid titles, of course. Well, the world realized that anyone, ANYONE, could become a Noble, if they had the money to pay. Even Pirates or Mercenaries, orThe Beatles, for example. The problem here was that after the Napoleonic Wars there were too many rich "commoners"… (The archetype of all of them was Cecil Rhodes), who started world colonialism, but noticed that money alone DID NOT PRODUCE WEALTH. Work is what produces wealth. The work is done by Man. So, OTHERS had to be forced to work for the rich, either out of slavery, for wages, or starvation. During the 19th and part of the 20th century, the underprivileged worked 10 and 12 hours a day, Saturdays and Sundays, no vacations, no benefits, no health insurance, no education, no nothing. If perhaps a machine ripped off a worker's arm, that was a worker's problem and not the employer's. They worked as poor children, and they grew old just as poor. The benefits that we have today arose from the Chicago Martyrs Massacre, May 1, and those ideals were put on the table by Communism. Without him, we would continue as in the 19th century. Without Communism, Capitalism would not have any restraint, as in fact it currently does not. Communism showed a better way; more humane, supportive and fair.
@@salvadorvizcarra769 brother capitalism is not a natural model it needs IMF WTO etc. To force the model on other countries.
On the other hand communism is achieved through socialism.communism is an end and the socialism is the means to an end.100 years ago the condition of the workers were bad ,now we can see some improvements.
There is not a single TRUE CAPITALIST country.
The country which undergoes socialism communism becomes powerfull.There is not a single exceotion to this rule.Infact the moment USSR introduced liberalisation it fell.
Sir you are amazing
Also speak about economic hitman book which is ghost written .
Sir aap ki baat Russian sahi k wo capitalism ki terf aya to inko noqsan Howa lekin China to yahi capitalism akhatyar inki tarqi aap ko malom ya Kia waja hai
What was role of Lack of free elections in Soviet Union in it's down fall?
Comrade,
Can you do this video in english?
Sure. But soon. I have to finish my series on Arab-Israeli conflict first.
@@Taimur_Laal ok. Comrade. Thanks
@@Taimur_Laal Looking forward to it.
تیمور رحمان چینی انقلاب پر بھی ایک لیکچر سیریز بنایئے۔۔
great
Superb
Excellent
Sir ye Khalid sb kon hain?
Decolonizing ke liye socialism ke pass kya hai?
I feel or my understanding after the lecture is that "socialism is initial stage of capitalism".
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What about the soviet Afghan war. Why did soviet union invade? The drug addictions really did pile up during that time. What was the politburo thinking then ?
I m communiest
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شکست ✓ ہوئی ناکام نہیں ہوا✓
sir Mig biggest helicopter in world first computer invention when u say these to capitalist they are shocked even today russia uses most weapons and design of soviet era
System comes later , first come the purposses of life and objective of life , without right concept of life every system should be failed today or tomorrow because it doesnt fit with the nature of human being because its emanate from a flasehood (wrong concept), which has happened in case of USSR.
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NSF means ..?
National Students Federation
NSF abbreviated as National Student Federation represents the deprived students, farmers, workers, women and minorities of Pakistan.
Did STALIN followed Lenins PHILOSOPHY ?
No
ایک شکست خوردہ نظام کی تعریف میں رطب اللسان ہونا اپنا وقت تو ضایع کرنا ہی ہے دوسروں کا بھی ضایع کرنا ہے، سیدھا اس موضوع پہ بات کرو کے اس نظام کو شکست کیسے ہوئی، وقت کے ساتھ کیا کیا اصلاحات کرنی چاہیے تھی، مذہبی معاملات پہ پابندی لگا کے زبردستی مذہبی امور سے روکنا بھی ایک جابرانہ کام تھا سوشلسٹوں کا، اور بھی وجوہات ہونگی، دوسرا اس طرح سوشلزم کے اوصاف بیان کرنا یک طرفہ بات ہو جائے گی، سوشلسٹس اور سرمایہ دارانہ نظاموں کے حامیوں کو چاہیے کہ آمنے سامنے بیٹھ کے مقابلانہ انداز میں ایک دوسرے کو غلط ثابت کریں۔
I'll even take subtitles.... :(
I can't find that book, is it available in English?
@@jfrorn no. It is a forthcoming publication. I haven't completed it yet.
@@Taimur_Laal Let us know, based on the title it sounds like a must read!
great NSF
waise ye baat mujhe hazam nahi hui is hisab se modi india me 2 baar bahut votes se election jeeta iska matalb wo sahi hai aur sab pakistani media pakistan army galat bhala ye to wo baat hui apna ullu sidha karne kuch facts ko ignore karo kuch kosach mano
Pakistan fauz 4 jange harne ke baad bhi nahi sikhi.
North Korea 😂😂 Socialist Country 😂😂😂aur Democracy kya mazak karte ho Comrade 😂😂😂
Lessons for Pakistan :- Organize in groups/collectives in mind the individualised people to be conscious about their lost vision of citizenship. Feel like citizens, not subjects. Develop entrepreneurship in family. At the same time, organize socially to demand quality basic services from government, viz., safe drinking water, quality medical & health services and quality education. Dr.Taimur is right --this has to be done without shouting Zindabad Murdabad! How? Love Your "Neighbor" (I mean to say by neighbor not India who is your "Dushman Mukq" 😃. By neighbor I mean to say neighborer household in your Village and Municipal Ward). Develop social fusion. Help everyone in need. Develop cooperation. Mutual help and appreciation. Love your fellow villagers more than you exhibit love for Kashmir! Kashmir is here! Going nowhere! 😃Be confused, not!
Ap ko Pakistan k hr sher ma apnay comrades k zarya kr Wana chaiye.
کس لیے گھڑے مردے اکھیڑ رھے ھو بھاٸ فاٸدہ نہیں اسلام پر ریسرچ کرلٕں آپ نہایت ذھین انسان ھں
Absrurd arguments. The speaker is clearly biased in favour of what he believes.
Pakistani "Tarraqi pasandon " ka safar " KARL MAX SE NAWAZ SHARIF/ FAZAL UR REHMAN TK"
Long live capitalism long live free market econoy
Huh?
Less than 1% own 99% and rest 99% own 1% in capitalist countries. Please watch these kind of break ups in USA, Western Europe and even in Middle East
Capitalism is no longer viable in the modern world
Long live People!
Long live the Love!
Long live Revolution!
As he said in this video , " leave the politics of slogans and start actually reading books "