Check out PART TWO here: ua-cam.com/video/KJizRWvI2bM/v-deo.html HUGE thanks to Aspen Aspires for this collaboration! It was awesome. Let me know if there's too many midroll ads in this video. Also, I'm hoping to post episode 8 of Project Apollo later this month(no guarantee though), which will be about the relationships between predator and prey species of cattle.
On koalaotters: there is a living marsupial, the yapok, which contains its young whithin its pouch when it dives thanks to a sphincter in it. As for the barbels in the catfish amphibians, caecilians have barbels so it's not an unusual feature for amphibians to develop
The gorilla goats literally have a prefect real world representative. The extinct ungulate chalicothere, a knuckle walking horse relative with a tail. How is it unlikely?
Well that is a good point, I was thinking about them being a derived goat or primate, but with that in mind I would have ranked them higher. My apologies!
As a biology nerd seeing the hybrid animals used to hurt me so badly because I always look at things with “how would that be possible” when watching movies, and it’s pretty annoying because it stops me from enjoying the movie sometimes.
For the camel-elephant you have to remember that deserts can get to freezing temperatures at night, making large, elephant ears detrimental as well as unnecessary if the animal has the same adaptations as camels (which, since they have humps they do). Camels rarely sweat and the fat stored in their humps helps them regulate their body temperature in desert environments. Camels mostly only store their fat in their humps, which draws heat away from their bodies and their fur is thick enough to shield them from the sub-zero temperatures of night. This is why camels don't have a need for elephant-like ears. Also, elephant ears aren't just for thermoregulation but also communication and intimidation. As for Elephant Koi, there are giant fish in the fossil record that aren't filter feeders in real life. Megalodon being a prime example but you also have the modern giant ocean sunfish which eat jellifish and the extinct Leedsichthys which may have reached lengths of 54 ft or 16.5 metres and likely ate jellifish, small fish and shrimp. Real life Koi are also omnivorous which would give the Elephant Koi greater opportunities to feed to maintain their massive sizes. We know very little about the Avatar oceans, especially the deep oceans but given the amount of mega-predators we see we can conclude that the Avatar oceans must be very rich in wildlife that we just don't get to see. As for the Shirshu's sense of smell it is actually highly plausible. Cougars have been known to track females in heat hundreds of miles from smell alone. Elephants also have an excellent sense of smell, able to locate water underground from over 20 kilometres (12 miles) away.
You had a minor oversight with the koala otter: Being an aquatic marsupial would not be as big of a problem as you suggest. Since water opossum just evolved for their pouch to be watertight, which seems like it would be normal for most aquatic marsupials: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_opossum
"The boarcupine's aggression knocks it to the bottom of B tier" How to say you don't know anything about wild pigs without saying you don't know anything about wild pigs.
There was a theory a while ago that the avatar world was far smaller than ours which is how a lot of the non benders did massive acrobatic feats (ty lee), and helps explain how things as large as the buzzard wasps can fly. If that is the intent that would help quite a bit with the square cube law issue a lot of the larger earth kingdom animals faced, less energy moving and climbing around and less muscle and bone strength needed for their mass
If their world is much smaller with lighter gravity that would make these make a lot more sense, and that kind of tracks as it seems like their iworld is really really small based on how fast they can get around there
If the Avatar world were smaller in scale compared to our own, it would indeed make sense of several phenomena in the series like Large Animals, Energy Requirements or Structural Support. are there any other speculative theories that helped reconcile fantastical elements in media with real-world principles?
Well the word “REALISM” is in all caps in the title so I think people would see and understand Then again this is the internet and many people do not read
Would the intelligence of some animals also make a difference in the plausibility? Like the pigmy panthers being able to understand who momo is looking for in appts lost days (at least I think they do it I remember it correctly) it could be that it’s too unclear but I think it’s fun to consider
I would have imagined the Reptile birds to be reptile like birds, not the other way round. The claws on the wings is seen in several birds in our world (hoatzins and turacos as chicks, and most ratites) I would have thought them to be neotonous hoatzins or turacos, hoatzin if you want it more iguana like or turaco for more parrot. The tail being an atavistic trait as they adapt to a more quadruped lifestyle.
The pentapus has five tentacles and it is radially symmetrical (with five eyes instead of the two eyes of cephalopods) so rather an a cephalopod it's more plausible for it to be an echinoderm related to starfish.
Possibly, although it seems plausible that these animals are cephalopods that lost limbs instead of echinoderms that evolved a very octopus-like body plan
@@AspenAspires The radially distributed five eyes is what led me to think they were echinoderms, since it would be weird for a bilateral cephalopod to evolve pentaradial symmetry, whereas starfish already have five eyes (though they're at the end of each tentacle instead of near the top)
@@sqrt2295 upon further inspection you are right, so the pentapus may be an echinoderm. Many points still apply with a montane aquatic animal, although I am slightly embarrassed that I missed that
Well there was once a platypus species "Obdurodon tharalkooschild" that was twice the size of the modern one, which is still just 1 meter long & as wide as a dog of that lengt, but it shows that they aren't that limited in their size range. Oh & they had teeth in their bill, like the platypus bear to.
3:24 Buffalo yaks also appeared in the legend of korra in a flashback where tanraq korras dad as well as several northern water tribe Warriors ride several to chase a band of barbarians out of the northern water tribe capital city
3:55 What do they eat though? We never saw any grass in the northern water tribe? 10:55 also what do they eat? At least the south pole has been show to be in permafrost. They build cities out of ice. In the north we see some melting, but not a blade of grass. 16:29 if they are based on crocodiles they may very well be hibernating or just waiting all year from some large migration to pass through. Maybe some sort of bowvine periodically migrates through the canyon. 21:48 Adult possums don't. Baby possums actually do it irl.
That is true, although some animals may struggle with finding enough food to make them that large. Canyon crawlers for example may be fine getting that large, but what do they eat in the desert environment of the canyon that allows them to sustain themselves!
Great video! Not sure if it is just me, but for large portions of the video, the audio and the images on screen felt out of sync by a few seconds, might want to look into that.
On koalaotters: there is a living marsupial, the yapok, which contains its young whithin its pouch when it dives thanks to a sphincter in it. As for the barbels in the catfish amphibians, caecilians have barbels so it's not an unusual feature for amphibians to develop.
The raven eagle is my fave. The possom chicken is decently likely. It kinda remind me of tree ant eators. And of course possoms. Also it may not have feathers and just have hair like feathers. The tiger dillo may have a shell to protect them from hazzardus enviorments and internal comfrontations. Also i may wanna add that the other serphants may be extinct being y we only see 1.
@@AspenAspires I saw it on my home page like 2 minutes after posting that comment. I have watched it now, although I think I forgot to like so you ended up helping me regardless.
the giant carp I would consider plausible as throughout the earths history giant fish have evolved I mean heck we have giant fish today Sharks and Sunfish are good examples making the giant fish in my opinion plausible.
@@AspenAspires exactly its not magic while to us it is for them its like a normal thing plus you never see anything truly magic it gives you bending and everything else you see is just that which is why i love avatar
@@Dem1z_ well in their world bending is reality but their world is not our reality, so when they bend it is appropriate to call it magic. The thing about magic that if it was real we would never call it that.
Also, to 28:04, the animal that is probably eating them would be the sabertooth moose lion, or maybe even the different large insects in the earth kingdom.
and another thing, the unagi & serpent are both supposed to be wild animals, not supernatural creatures. They should have been placed in either D tier or F tier, I would vote for D tier, considering large marine reptiles & fish have existed before.
@@justaguyontheinternet3893the reason I put The Unagi and The Serpent in F tier is because they’re like Godzilla. You don’t see a breeding population of Godzillas, which all species have, you only see one. There’s only one Unagi and Serpent, much like how there is only one Godzilla
They* speak slow because I’m just used to narrating all my videos like that. In real life I talk a little less slowly, and I’m sorry if I spoke a bit too slow for your liking
@@AspenAspires thanks for the answer! And sorry for miss-gendering you! This is just personal preference, obviously, but I feel it may help your vids if you spoke with a faster cadence.
Check out PART TWO here: ua-cam.com/video/KJizRWvI2bM/v-deo.html
HUGE thanks to Aspen Aspires for this collaboration! It was awesome.
Let me know if there's too many midroll ads in this video. Also, I'm hoping to post episode 8 of Project Apollo later this month(no guarantee though), which will be about the relationships between predator and prey species of cattle.
Glad to do the collaboration and I can’t wait to do more! Can’t wait to see more Appolo content 😊
On koalaotters: there is a living marsupial, the yapok, which contains its young whithin its pouch when it dives thanks to a sphincter in it. As for the barbels in the catfish amphibians, caecilians have barbels so it's not an unusual feature for amphibians to develop
Also, Macroeuphractus is a real life example of an armoured predator
Pls do an ant seedworld
@@Voomal123 that sounds like an interesting idea
The gorilla goats literally have a prefect real world representative. The extinct ungulate chalicothere, a knuckle walking horse relative with a tail. How is it unlikely?
Well that is a good point, I was thinking about them being a derived goat or primate, but with that in mind I would have ranked them higher. My apologies!
This is eye candy on steroids, as a biology nerd and an avatar lover
Darn I cut off the comment, I meant to have a comma with a , and a generic “good job!”
@@Samanimates292glad you enjoyed the videos!
As a biology nerd seeing the hybrid animals used to hurt me so badly because I always look at things with “how would that be possible” when watching movies, and it’s pretty annoying because it stops me from enjoying the movie sometimes.
@@KingDrakoTyrell Like what movies?
@@Samanimates292 any movies really.
For the camel-elephant you have to remember that deserts can get to freezing temperatures at night, making large, elephant ears detrimental as well as unnecessary if the animal has the same adaptations as camels (which, since they have humps they do). Camels rarely sweat and the fat stored in their humps helps them regulate their body temperature in desert environments.
Camels mostly only store their fat in their humps, which draws heat away from their bodies and their fur is thick enough to shield them from the sub-zero temperatures of night. This is why camels don't have a need for elephant-like ears.
Also, elephant ears aren't just for thermoregulation but also communication and intimidation.
As for Elephant Koi, there are giant fish in the fossil record that aren't filter feeders in real life. Megalodon being a prime example but you also have the modern giant ocean sunfish which eat jellifish and the extinct Leedsichthys which may have reached lengths of 54 ft or 16.5 metres and likely ate jellifish, small fish and shrimp.
Real life Koi are also omnivorous which would give the Elephant Koi greater opportunities to feed to maintain their massive sizes.
We know very little about the Avatar oceans, especially the deep oceans but given the amount of mega-predators we see we can conclude that the Avatar oceans must be very rich in wildlife that we just don't get to see.
As for the Shirshu's sense of smell it is actually highly plausible. Cougars have been known to track females in heat hundreds of miles from smell alone. Elephants also have an excellent sense of smell, able to locate water underground from over 20 kilometres (12 miles) away.
All of these very valid points! I’m really glad you enjoyed this video
The Buffaloyak looks like its just a cold adapted Wildebeest, lmao
I could definitely see it 🤔
You had a minor oversight with the koala otter: Being an aquatic marsupial would not be as big of a problem as you suggest. Since water opossum just evolved for their pouch to be watertight, which seems like it would be normal for most aquatic marsupials: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_opossum
Also it’s possible the “ears” are just a bunch of fur that happens to look like an ear
Huh! I must have missed that, and I’m sorry! If I knew about that, I would have likely ranked them higher.
@@user-kt4to5xs9lor they may collapse/fold against the head
"The boarcupine's aggression knocks it to the bottom of B tier"
How to say you don't know anything about wild pigs without saying you don't know anything about wild pigs.
True but they were aggressive to my boy Appa that’s why they went lower on the list 😅
@@AspenAspiresnothing dis similar to a wolverine and bison
Wild pigs and peccaries are some aggressive mofos.
There was a theory a while ago that the avatar world was far smaller than ours which is how a lot of the non benders did massive acrobatic feats (ty lee), and helps explain how things as large as the buzzard wasps can fly. If that is the intent that would help quite a bit with the square cube law issue a lot of the larger earth kingdom animals faced, less energy moving and climbing around and less muscle and bone strength needed for their mass
If their world is much smaller with lighter gravity that would make these make a lot more sense, and that kind of tracks as it seems like their iworld is really really small based on how fast they can get around there
The planet being smaller makes sense, considering there's only the one continent, and a few island.
@@alexjewett7455Yeah
If the Avatar world were smaller in scale compared to our own, it would indeed make sense of several phenomena in the series like Large Animals, Energy Requirements or Structural Support. are there any other speculative theories that helped reconcile fantastical elements in media with real-world principles?
Elephant Koi "only" look about 10 meters long. Which matches stuff like whale sharks and leadcycthyes (spelled that wrong).
That may be true, although morphology wise they don’t seem to have the apparatus for filter feeding that allows/allowed those fish to get so big
@@AspenAspires perhaps bigger or more plentiful prey
The tiger-dillos could be prey for dragons. That could explain their armor.
That might mean that the armor is fire proof which would make them more dangerous to fire benders and that would explain their reputation!!
Ooh that would make sense! Armor and size would be very good defenses against dragosn
that thumbnail is gonna get you shanked
I may or may not have intentionally made it a little inflammatory, but if this does get me shanked that would be a really funny way to go out
Well the word “REALISM” is in all caps in the title so I think people would see and understand
Then again this is the internet and many people do not read
Would the intelligence of some animals also make a difference in the plausibility? Like the pigmy panthers being able to understand who momo is looking for in appts lost days (at least I think they do it I remember it correctly) it could be that it’s too unclear but I think it’s fun to consider
That would have been fun to consider as well
I would have imagined the Reptile birds to be reptile like birds, not the other way round. The claws on the wings is seen in several birds in our world (hoatzins and turacos as chicks, and most ratites)
I would have thought them to be neotonous hoatzins or turacos, hoatzin if you want it more iguana like or turaco for more parrot. The tail being an atavistic trait as they adapt to a more quadruped lifestyle.
The most realistic animals in Avatar are the non-benders!
That may be true 😅
Bear: *exists*
I don't know
An endurace predator that is omnivore and like to see fire?
That sounds very unrealistic for me
Sheep pig is possible, for we have the Mangalica
True, although for the Hybrid Pigs I may have been a bit biased, my apologies 😅
@@AspenAspires No worries 👍
The pentapus has five tentacles and it is radially symmetrical (with five eyes instead of the two eyes of cephalopods) so rather an a cephalopod it's more plausible for it to be an echinoderm related to starfish.
Possibly, although it seems plausible that these animals are cephalopods that lost limbs instead of echinoderms that evolved a very octopus-like body plan
@@AspenAspires The radially distributed five eyes is what led me to think they were echinoderms, since it would be weird for a bilateral cephalopod to evolve pentaradial symmetry, whereas starfish already have five eyes (though they're at the end of each tentacle instead of near the top)
@@AspenAspires I'd say it's converging evolution, with body symmetry very rarely changing. The starfish ancestry seems more plausible
@@sqrt2295 upon further inspection you are right, so the pentapus may be an echinoderm. Many points still apply with a montane aquatic animal, although I am slightly embarrassed that I missed that
It was interesting video and if you will analyze feasibility of creatures from another series I wu gladly watch it.
I would be down to come back to that later, there’s plenty of places to go like Amphibia
Turkey Duck should have gotten S as it resembles Muscovy Ducks so closely.
Good point, 🤔
Well there was once a platypus species "Obdurodon tharalkooschild" that was twice the size of the modern one, which is still just 1 meter long & as wide as a dog of that lengt, but it shows that they aren't that limited in their size range. Oh & they had teeth in their bill, like the platypus bear to.
That is a good point 🤔
This is the collab I didn't know I needed!
3:24 Buffalo yaks also appeared in the legend of korra in a flashback where tanraq korras dad as well as several northern water tribe Warriors ride several to chase a band of barbarians out of the northern water tribe capital city
Noted, thank you very much!
Next Project Apollo ep when?
Alien Evolution says in the pinned comment that he wants to release episode 8 of Apollo later this month
came over here from Aspen's discord
Poggers
Glad to see someone from the server here! Thank you so much for the support
Until I read the title I was about to throw hands for putting Appa in F tier lol
Fair enough! Appa is the best boy
3:55 What do they eat though? We never saw any grass in the northern water tribe?
10:55 also what do they eat? At least the south pole has been show to be in permafrost. They build cities out of ice. In the north we see some melting, but not a blade of grass.
16:29 if they are based on crocodiles they may very well be hibernating or just waiting all year from some large migration to pass through. Maybe some sort of bowvine periodically migrates through the canyon.
21:48 Adult possums don't. Baby possums actually do it irl.
These are good points, thank you for the input!
Well the Avatar world is smaller than ours(probably) so it kinda make sense for animals to be larger
That is true, although some animals may struggle with finding enough food to make them that large. Canyon crawlers for example may be fine getting that large, but what do they eat in the desert environment of the canyon that allows them to sustain themselves!
Great video! Not sure if it is just me, but for large portions of the video, the audio and the images on screen felt out of sync by a few seconds, might want to look into that.
We had some copyright issues so we had to mess around with things, which messed up the sync. I’m so sorry if that messed with your viewing experience!
Pls make a The Croods animal accuracy video
Ooh that sounds like a fun idea! My summer is going to be busy but I could see that happening in the future eventually
No way! I was like hold on is this the right video😂
Glad you’re here watching! We hope you enjoyed it
On koalaotters: there is a living marsupial, the yapok, which contains its young whithin its pouch when it dives thanks to a sphincter in it. As for the barbels in the catfish amphibians, caecilians have barbels so it's not an unusual feature for amphibians to develop.
Noted
20:17 blub forgot that Muscovy ducks exist 💀
Can you please continue the cattle speculative evolution?
He is currently working on it last time we talked so hopefully it comes out soon!
Lets go
Let’s go!!! 🗿
Also, Macroeuphractus is a rl example of an armoured predator.
The raven eagle is my fave.
The possom chicken is decently likely. It kinda remind me of tree ant eators. And of course possoms. Also it may not have feathers and just have hair like feathers.
The tiger dillo may have a shell to protect them from hazzardus enviorments and internal comfrontations.
Also i may wanna add that the other serphants may be extinct being y we only see 1.
Fair points
nice video
Nice comment!
'Twas great, I'm hpyed for part 2
Hope you enjoy it!
It is up on my channel if you haven’t seen it yet
@@AspenAspires I saw it on my home page like 2 minutes after posting that comment. I have watched it now, although I think I forgot to like so you ended up helping me regardless.
I hope you do this with Madly Mesozoic with the accessing survival speculative evolution animals on the channel.
As someone who has tried to grow cabbages, I disagree with Cabbage slugs not being real! :D
Oh no! I hope your cabbage growth goes well
I dare you to rank Pikmin enemies by realism next.
Cool
Thank you!
the giant carp I would consider plausible as throughout the earths history giant fish have evolved I mean heck we have giant fish today Sharks and Sunfish are good examples making the giant fish in my opinion plausible.
Good argument that could work, if I were to redo this I would put the elephant carp in B or C tier
Sky bison are s tier and no one can convince me otherwise
I personally imagine the sky bison being of possible extraterrestrial origin.
24:31 bro had clearly never lived near a boar in his life 💀
Can you make more vieos on the vow evolution world
The elephants closest relatives are hyrax capensis no elephant shrews
Not* of course
Also in Dutch their name translates to clipbadgers which makes the afrotheria even more misunderstood
@@len518my bad I made that one wrong
28:18 maybe they canabalise each other regularly and need the shells to protect against it
That could be an interesting hypothesis! I like that idea
Why would you rank the koala otter bellow the polar bear dog even thoigh they both have ears too big for the polar region?
I would say as the Polar Bear dog appears to be more terrestrial and the Koala Otter is more aquatic, and the proportions involved
@@AspenAspires yeah, I agree,
WHAT THIS WAS MADE BY YOU?
Made by me and Alien Evolution!
Pls Do An Flying Goats Video?
Why do they mix reptiles and mammals like turtles with seals and penguins with seals
Artistic liberty which looks cool but is implausible, kinda like the Jurassic park raptors or dilo
you missed polar leopards
Turkeyducks are real
More or less I guess that is true
@@AspenAspires I saw them in a zoo they are black in colour and have white markings and they have the thing which turkeys have on their nose
whens the next Apollo video
just call the godly fish gods
Mm fish god
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The editing is a BIT delayed from the audio 😅😅😅😅
Do intelligent life on apollo
I would love to see that
The serpent shows up both in the serpents pass and s3e1☝️🤓
Thank you! Sorry I missed that, but that still leaves them in F tier
Theres no magic in avatar
Bending is not seen as magic by the people of that world, but from our perspective where bending doesn’t exist, it basically functions as magic
your joking
@@AspenAspires exactly its not magic while to us it is for them its like a normal thing plus you never see anything truly magic it gives you bending and everything else you see is just that which is why i love avatar
@@Dem1z_ well in their world bending is reality but their world is not our reality, so when they bend it is appropriate to call it magic. The thing about magic that if it was real we would never call it that.
Considering a platypus is an actual creature, im sure avatar animals could exist.
Also, to 28:04, the animal that is probably eating them would be the sabertooth moose lion, or maybe even the different large insects in the earth kingdom.
also, the camelephant is from the fire nation, not the earth nation, considering the fire nation has a dance based off them.
and another thing, the unagi & serpent are both supposed to be wild animals, not supernatural creatures. They should have been placed in either D tier or F tier, I would vote for D tier, considering large marine reptiles & fish have existed before.
@@justaguyontheinternet3893I'm not personally a huge fan of his rankings tbh
The unagi n serpent are quite enormous tho
@@justaguyontheinternet3893the reason I put The Unagi and The Serpent in F tier is because they’re like Godzilla. You don’t see a breeding population of Godzillas, which all species have, you only see one. There’s only one Unagi and Serpent, much like how there is only one Godzilla
I find that the avatar series with korra or whatever isn’t nearly as good as the original
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WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR VOICE????
That was largely my voice actually!
@@AspenAspires TANK YOU!!
@@kimberlylewistyner2070 no worries, I hope you liked my voice!
@@AspenAspires i like it!
Why does he speak so slow?
Probably because people would complain that he talks to fast if he spoke faster.
They* speak slow because I’m just used to narrating all my videos like that. In real life I talk a little less slowly, and I’m sorry if I spoke a bit too slow for your liking
@@AspenAspires thanks for the answer! And sorry for miss-gendering you!
This is just personal preference, obviously, but I feel it may help your vids if you spoke with a faster cadence.
Neat :)
Glad you liked it dude! 👍👍