What Actually Moves The Hobby Needle? Top 5 (Early) Extended Young Guns & Hobby Free Agency Primer

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  • @mariocavallo331
    @mariocavallo331 3 місяці тому +2

    I hope you guys make 7 mill from this episode. Ive gotten an ad every 3 min so far lol

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  3 місяці тому

      hahahaha....really? $7 is a lot closer than $7M. If it's too bad let us know and we'll see if there's an option to dial it back.

    • @briandelauro3471
      @briandelauro3471 3 місяці тому

      That’s weird I got maybe 1 or 2 at most.

  • @mjrowen9563
    @mjrowen9563 3 місяці тому

    Love seeing some Ottawa content on this show

  • @MoreHockeyCardsPlease
    @MoreHockeyCardsPlease 3 місяці тому

    Great dynamic with the 3 of you

  • @sportsfix6975
    @sportsfix6975 3 місяці тому

    Hey Troy, thrift stores in my city are loaded with hockey books dirt cheap, Im sure every city has them in the book area.

  • @markpayne7163
    @markpayne7163 Місяць тому

    Bad Kane takes Phil. Peeps change. Raymond cites Kane's guidance as a factor in improving his game. You guys thinking he wouldn't re-up with the Wings jinxed him back to the Wings. Thanks from a Wings fan!

  • @ojibwe_86
    @ojibwe_86 2 місяці тому

    There’s sooooo many pre McDavid boxes that are underrated. So many.

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  2 місяці тому

      What's a few of your favorites?

    • @ojibwe_86
      @ojibwe_86 2 місяці тому

      @@hockeycardsgongshow I won’t list all of them, because it’s more than 100. I will start with 93-94 only.
      1. 1993-94 Fleer Ultra
      2. 1993-94 Leaf Hockey
      3. 1993-94 Donruss Hockey
      4. 1993-94 Pinnacle
      5. 1993-94 Topps Stadium Club
      6. 1993-94 Parkhurst
      7. 1993-94 Topps Premier
      8. 1993-94 Upper Deck SP
      9. 1993-94 Score
      10. 1993-94 Classic

  • @Ivysonia
    @Ivysonia 3 місяці тому

    Phil much better job his go round! Great listening!

  • @86collectables-qy9qr
    @86collectables-qy9qr 3 місяці тому

    Great episode like usual boys! My only counter is grading cards. I was always in the boat with Phil and Troy….grading is overrated, real collectors don’t care about grading etc (until recently). Unfortunately my family isn’t into cards like I am, my kids want nothing to do with it (which is ok). Grading allows these cards one day to be sold a lot easier by them. They’re not going to sit there and try and figure out the value of raw vs graded. Collecting grading helps it being sold down the road.

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  3 місяці тому

      Good perspective Bobby! Appreciate you chiming in with your thoughts.

  • @BNR6POX
    @BNR6POX 3 місяці тому

    I understand the Phil criticism. Do I agree? No. Phil is no BS, seemingly very honest, and dies on the hill he finds himself on.
    Love hearing his input on things

  • @Sebby25
    @Sebby25 3 місяці тому +1

    Troy, you buried the lead on Shepard! 2X Calder Cup winning starting goalie with Hershey!!

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  3 місяці тому +1

      oops...yes! Thanks for remiding us!

    • @Sebby25
      @Sebby25 3 місяці тому

      @@hockeycardsgongshow you made up for it with “the field” 😂

  • @brucephilipson3109
    @brucephilipson3109 3 місяці тому

    I got the Jonathan Quick Future Fame card and I think it's AWESOME! Unfortunately I don't PC any of the players in the checklist.

  • @bobbydice8934
    @bobbydice8934 3 місяці тому +1

    I have some of Barkov's grail cards up for sale and I've hardly had any offers before or after their Cup win. Florida's market is terrible, same goes for Tampa Bay too. MacKinnon gets lost in McDavids shadow and the fact the NHL has done a brutal job marketing him. He also get's lost in Makar's shadow too (since Makar is pacing to be anywhere from 1 to 3 all time best defensemen). MacKinnon is just at the wrong place in time unfortunately for him. I think if MacKinnon played for the Rangers/Leafs/Habs his hobby love would be vastly different.
    I like the Exquisite cards too because they harken back to 2003 same goes for the retro 96 PMG's.
    I see no difference in grading a patch card vs non patch card, makes little sense to me. Every card looks better raw than graded.

  • @sportsfix6975
    @sportsfix6975 3 місяці тому

    Florida has 2 basketball teams 2 NFL Teams 2 baseball teams and 2 hockey teams, thats alot of options for your sports card dollar. Colorado also has 3 sports teams bigger than hockey

  • @alexmckenna5401
    @alexmckenna5401 3 місяці тому

    I have a 2016/17 McDavid Artifacts patch auto, mint, I take it out of the 1 touch and it is gorgeous. It’s a ruby green number to eight. You can not see the beauty in that card when you have it in one touch. It looks like every other card in a one touch. When I take it out and let the light gleam off it. Wow, now I know why I paid a thousand bucks for it. In short, I agree 100% I have Auston Mathews, Futurewatch Futurewatch patch McDavid cup rookie Matthews cop Rookie, Gretzky rookie, none of them graded. I am a collector I bought the card not the grade.

  • @Ben-nx1th
    @Ben-nx1th 3 місяці тому

    Personally I think that the hockey card hobby can’t compared to NBA, NFL or MLB. We are just fraction of collectors to those groups and most of us are extremely knowledgeable about their hobby. We only have a handful of legends and only five important vintage rookie cards (Vezina, Howe, Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux).
    That’s why you rarely see any hype and only slow movement in prices, and that’s why only a few cards become insanely valuable. Bedard and McDavid prices are a deviation to that, mainly because I think lots of non-hockey card collectors heard about those two and started buying his cards.

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  3 місяці тому

      You're right that the top tier in the hobby is a pretty small list :)

    • @sportsfix6975
      @sportsfix6975 3 місяці тому

      I made 2.5x my money so far on buying pre-order Bedard boxes, tins and blasters. Not opening them and selling them at their peak is the best way to make money off sports cards...but only when a generational talent is the rookie

  • @MoreHockeyCardsPlease
    @MoreHockeyCardsPlease 3 місяці тому

    I love how Phil just ripped Joshs datsyuk card apart

  • @BlaagTheMentor
    @BlaagTheMentor 3 місяці тому

    Nothing impacts the hobby more than when a player signs with or is traded to Montreal, Toronto or Vancouver (and to a lesser extent Calgary and Winnipeg). My sales skyrocket for any player in this scenario.

  • @cazschiller
    @cazschiller 3 місяці тому

    Oh I like how the show is evolving 😂 no more countdown, and the Fiverr voiceovers are full steam ahead lol

  • @EricSmith-yg6nu
    @EricSmith-yg6nu 3 місяці тому

    I wonder if there’s some fatigue in the hobby right now with the whole Bedard chase coming to the forefront?

  • @cwpucks1188
    @cwpucks1188 3 місяці тому

    Phil is right on i love to feel of of my cards, and every card i get i want raw. If i do buy one that was graded / authenticated i crack it out. Free your cards enjoy the hobby and your cards not the plastic cases. Condition has gotten so out of hand.

  • @sportsfix6975
    @sportsfix6975 3 місяці тому

    I believe San Jose's 1st game is against Bedard

  • @stillonly25cents67
    @stillonly25cents67 3 місяці тому

    re: player cards not increasing with a cup win in the last 2 years ... why would VGK fans invest in Eichel rookie cards in a Buffalo uni ... same for FLA Bob, Tkachuk, Bennet, Reinhart ... all in other unis ... yes Barkov is underrated but should there be a rush for Ekblad cards ... cup wins rarely are going to create new player collectors and most collectors want cards of players in their team's uni .... just one example of why the needle doesn't move not the only

  • @MoreHockeyCardsPlease
    @MoreHockeyCardsPlease 3 місяці тому

    Let kick off this Monday morning right

  • @AdamMCrawford
    @AdamMCrawford 3 місяці тому

    The #1 thing that moves the hobby needle is performance, stats & individual awards. MacKinnons market is doing nothing right now only because it was obvious for months that he would be the MVP, in the past 6 months his stuff is up around 30%. It's not going to magically shoot up 25% the night of the awards.

    • @AdamMCrawford
      @AdamMCrawford 3 місяці тому

      Another massive factor is playing style, which is why guys like Datsyuk, Bure etc command massive prices. They played the game in a beautiful way, and their collectors regonize that and want to own a piece of it. Bure will out sell "Stanley Cup champion HOFers" like Yzerman, Sakic, Forsberg all day long.

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  3 місяці тому +1

      I like adding playstyle as a factor...makes a lot of sense.

    • @sportsfix6975
      @sportsfix6975 3 місяці тому +1

      The odd Michigan doesn't hurt either....and looks also matter

  • @brucephilipson3109
    @brucephilipson3109 3 місяці тому

    Do you know who Connor Bedard outscored in rookie years? Connor McDavid..... Points in your rookie year is not a good stat to rank. That being said, I do think the Bedards are overvalued but more because of the number of cards/parallels/sets and (probably) because of the high print runs.

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  3 місяці тому +1

      Understand your point. McDavid did have a higher PPG avg. than Bedard as he played in only 45 games with the collarbone injury. It's definitely not the end-all-be-all.

  • @MNSportscardJunky
    @MNSportscardJunky 3 місяці тому

    Was that a drumroll or a motorboat 😅?

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  3 місяці тому +1

      Only the very talented can make one sound that can be used for both....:)

    • @MNSportscardJunky
      @MNSportscardJunky 3 місяці тому

      @@hockeycardsgongshow love it

  • @jephery3257
    @jephery3257 3 місяці тому

    The amount of advertisements makes this unwatchable

    • @hockeycardsgongshow
      @hockeycardsgongshow  3 місяці тому

      Really? How often has it been? We'll try to figure out how to turn it down. It's all UA-cam doing it's thing right now. Thank you for letting us know...we'll fix it