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Hi I’m Matt Lockey, welcome to my Coach Lockey UA-cam Channel. This UA-cam channel is designed to help you play better golf, and to help you enjoy your golf more!
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I like nothing more....than a little bounce and grind 🤭
😂
What, no chipper?
You can add a chipper too
Love the videos, Lockey. I have a few ideas that may or may not help the conversation. I think the course that a player predominantly plays at should determine the wedge make up of a player's bag. A varied selection of bounce should be essential in most amateurs bags. Presuming a 3 wedge combo GW 50/52, SW 54/56 and LW 58/60, their bunker club of choice SW/LW should be at least a mid-bounce if not high-bounce. You can think about a low bounce option on the alternate wedge subject to AoA and skill level. As the loft increases in a wedge you should be moving further away from hitting it 100%. GW should be the last 100% club in the bag. You should look to hit the GW 90%, 80% or 70% until you reach the distance of an 85% SW. Similarly, work down with SW until you reach the distance of a 70% LW.. Strike can really suffer when hitting wedges too hard, these are precision clubs not distance clubs. Players should look to build a wedge matrix for distance (TXG have a great video on this). Don't think buying a new wedge will cure your chipping woes, it won't. Go out and practise, make it fun. Challenge yourself, yes, but always make it fun. Nobody died because of a fluffed/duffed or bladed/knifed chip. It can happen to the best in the world so don't beat yourself up. This game is supposed to be fun. All the best in the next Muppet Tour event Coach!!!
Thanks for watching and your input to the conversation. This is a little bit too long for me to read though haha, will take me all day 😂
Funny when I go to the driving range the chipping greens and putting greens in the practice area are always less used, I say spend more time over there and you will see strokes disappear
People can definitely improve their short games too
I bought a couple of Ben Hogan wedges a few months before the company went under. My Vokeys were well past expiration. The 58 Texas Grind with back relief for tight lies and firm bunkers has worked out well. However the 52 with the standard V sole really catches in the rough relative to my old Vokey 54. No problem out of the fairway, but it's going to cost me strokes, so the search continues. Really sucks there's nowhere to try out wedges on grass around here.
The prettiest ones obviously! S159 black currently.
You only need a 60 to get out of bunkers....the "Chipper!" ( when you learn how to use it!) covers everything else!
I thought chippers were like 40°
No self respecting golfer uses a “chipper”
A little forward lean 70% on your lead foot really helps with tight lie chips
Haha they have plenty don't worry
My advice on when you find a wedge that you really like, when they bring out a new model, buy a new one of your model because they don't change much in performance from model to model and you should be able to get them on sale. Actually I'd buy 2.
Shame Callaway stopped doing non raw as I loved the MD5 Jaws but not a fan of rusty clubs
Zero percent chance that my golf shop will let me take a wedge outside to try it out
Where does the 'chipper' fit in all of that??
haha 😂 around the 9 or 8 iron loft
interesting video idea. iron set gap wedge vs specialty wedge 48-52 since lofts are all over the place. does a set gap wedge compete or is it a waste of money.
set gap wedge definitely will compete and will generally blend better into the specialist wedges. Unless you use big game improvers.
Love the content but where can you go and test grinds on multiple oem's wedges at the bit where you suffer most? No pro is stocking a 54 degree wedge in all grinds for you to check out
You can't. You'd have to order therm from utry for 25 a pop for 2 weeks. That could get costly
Golf clubs have testing days which manufacturers will bring lots of clubs to test. Just have to search who is doing them. I agree it is a lot harder that driver and iron fitting though and manufactures need to up their game on it.
Would be good if the big manufacturers had more wedge fitting days across the UK. Chance to get a hold of the different bounce and grind options and a little bit of advice.
There’s a local fitting centre near me that provide a full wedge service including shafts and on grass but i think that’s not too common place.
I agree, needs to get a lot better.
I carry a 52 and 61 and I mostly use the 52. I use the 61 when I am short sided and need to stop the ball quickly or get over something. But I can make the 52 work in different situations. I just like the idea of getting good with 1 club
Do you not find that is a big gap between the two?
I agree and do the same with my 56...eliminating my 60 all together.
@@CoachLockey it's a gap in degrees but I've learned to use the 52 from 40 yards in. Occasionally I'll use a full shot with the 61 bit it has to be a perfect distance. Anything outside 50 yards and I can hit my gap or pw
What's interesting about bounce is manufacturers stamp what they think is the "effective bounce" on their wedges. So for example if a club has a lot of actual bounce but with a sharp leading edge, its effective bounce might work out lower.
This means that you should try out multiple manufacturers, and not just assume that because you usually play 10* bounce in a vokey means you should get 10* in a Callaway wedge.
Cracking tips coach! 🤙🏻 thought you was gonna embarrass all of us with a chip in! 🤣
So close haha
@@CoachLockey nobody needs to see those! 🤣
Nice Obi One intro
For the beginner or high handicap golfer it’s a mystery as to which wedges to use, especially when it comes to grind. Most shops will push a standard PW and SW at you and an off the shelf set of irons unless they are a shop who cares to recommend a proper fitting.The fitter I had, chose to adjust all my irons at 2 deg. flatter and with 2 deg. more loft. Bounce or grind was never addressed because I am a high handicap golfer, just starting to break 💯consistently.
I say from experience that Callaway wedges - rather than the forged sets - are a bugger to bend.
Clearly there is a gap for a Coach Grind - who cares for the PM grind - our Coach won't defect to the LIV tour
Some good points here coach.
Thank you
I was playing vokeys and recently changed to Cleveland CBX Zipcores and the accuracy is so much better. I play cavity back irons so it just made sense to play cavity back wedges.
Accuracy is much better? How do you mean?
@@CoachLockey my miss hits are not as bad dispersion wise, and I am hitting more greens from 80 yards and in with the CBX
Might want to adjust your wedge assortment based on season/time-of-year, also. Heavy, long, wet grass in the spring is different than burned-out, tight turf conditions later in the summer. Would think that, at least, changes in bounce would be helpful. Good vid, Coach. Greetings from the States!
What happened on yesterdays post?
Went up by accident
For the longest time I had three wedges (50/56/60) and recently did away with my 60 degree and opted to put a chipper in my bag. I just started to use my 56 degree on pretty much anything close to the green practicing using less of a back swing, and/or accelerating more or less through the shot, manipulating the face and all that - seemed to just work better for me. I thought I would lose out on flop shots, but they just don't happen often enough and I can still pull them off with the 56. When I have a dead pan line I go to my chipper most of the time. Love these sort of videos and resulting discussions.
I have a dizzying array of wedges that come in and out of the bag, but at the moment it's 48.9 and 52.11 Cleveland CBX wedges and a Callaway Jaws MD5 56.10 S. You can use the CBX wedges almost anywhere with absurd ease, they spin like little Tasmanian Devils, and the distance consistency on full shots is absolutely insane. The 56º is for things like hard-packed bunkers and firm sand, tighter lies, and those very rare times when I need to hit a high shot - but mainly I use the Cleveland CBX wedges and a 9-iron around the greens. Sometimes an 8-iron, too.
The CBX's do have a big, wide sole, so there are a few situations where they don't work best for me. You can open the face on the 52º, but you have to have at least some grass underneath. If you've got a really tight lie you have to play them square. But I play most everything with a square face. The sole on the CBX's is better at protecting you from fat shots than it is from thinning it. Basically that means you can have confidence to hit down on the ball and that sole is going to do its thing and glide through the grass/turf.
Anyway, I know I sound like a CBX fanboy. They're just really, really good, though.
CBX my fanboy..... do you want me Roger if he will sign them for you haha.
I think that’s the clearest explanation of wedges and what to consider when buying that I have ever seen. Thanks!
*46°* PW Mizuno MP18MB
full shots
*51°* Cleveland RTX4 forged, bend from 52°...9°bounce(from10)
full shots and bump and run
*56°* Cleveland RTX4 10° bounce
Mid-grind
full shots and longer bunker shots
*60°* Scratch Golf 1018forged 10° bounce C-grind
full shots, bunker, short chips and pitch
*64°* Callaway Jaws Full Toe 9° C-grind
flop shots(good lies), chips and pitch with no green to work
64... hello floppy doppy doos
T200
PW 43° (carries 135/130)
GW 48° (carries 120/115)
SM9
54°. 10. S (carries 105/100)
58°. 10. S (carries 85/80)
Just recently changed from playing a 56 & 60. I much prefer the full shot yardages of the slightly lower lofted SW and LW.
Lovely 👍
Hi Sween Bean love the look of your Wedge set up,
I have T300 43deg & 48deg & Callaway 56 deg & 54 deg PM grind Wedges, and love the performance of both Titleist Wedges, Dickey
I just bought Mizuno's ES21 from last year, on sale, because I wanted something with higher and more centered CG, I balloon sandwedges, add loft, too much.
Strengthen that grip or bow that lead wrist.... yes please
I have 3 "specialist" if u want to call them that wedges plus my pitching wedge.
I have a 52 8 bounce (use it for full shots most of the time) 56 with 10 bounce (herl and toe relief gring,)in bunkers rough full shots anything really...60 (4 bounce) yep really....i can hit the ball straight up my own nose if i want to..only use it to get vertical quickly..pretty much never hit it full unless it's got to go into orbit but full shots aren't really what its for and i carry 15 clubs in my bag when i practice and depending on course conditions i might leave the 60 or drop my 4 iron as I'm getting a bit old for a 4 iron (even a helpful 1) but its great off a tee if needing to keep it low (deliberately) under the wind or for position on a short hole.
I wouldn't hit a 60 degree full very often either. Too many variables going on to be consistent with it hitting full shots.
Timely video Lockey.
Just bought a 60 degree Fulllface Zipcore Cleveland and have played a number of varied shot will it. I am still getting my head around the delicate close-in shots and the swing rythm required. Standing with my feet much closer together has improved my control and clean striking.
Got a 56 degree CBX 12 degree as well and had a 3/4 shot already hit the pin after one bounce on the course for a par save. This is replacing my PGF Status III Hi-Tech Sand Wedge. I am awaiting the 52 degree CBX on backorder and I can then swap out my old PGF Pitching Wedge. I plan to find more time pitching to the practice holes at my club and get these singing.
Strike is so important with a 60, launch and spin can differ so much when not struck consistently
I like to manipulate the face. I struggle with that 25 to 40 yard pitch. I don't know how much to open the club face & then length of swing to match. I seem to hit it short right when I open the club more than 10°. Please do a video on this type shot! Thanks. Love your content Coach!
When you open the club face lower your handle as well as that will point the loft at the target again and not right 👍
Like Matt's videos, but I have never seen him comment or respond lately
Hello, sorry been away and it is sometimes hard to keep up with all the comments. Doing an hour of it right now though 👍
All good in theory but you don’t get the chance to try different bounces and grinds on the course in different scenarios.
Companies definitely need to get better at offering wedge fittings but most have fitting days at golf clubs which will include wedges. Just need to search for where they are.
Just got new Jaws Raw - 50/54/58 which flows from my PW at 46. Gives me smooth flow with my selection.
As many said - practice, practice, and more practice. I spend multiple hours a day working on my short game and still have a ton of work to do. But it is golf and that is how the ball flows :)
Great video Coach!
How about a video on how to out-drive Mark ;)
Nice, lovely gapping with the wedges. Hope you enjoy the new Jaws Raw too.
How to out drive Mark haha, have pins like mine haha
This is good stuff bruh! I’ve got four wedges right now, but I’m tinkering with the idea of taking one out since my iron set overlaps with my 50 degree…and funny enough I prefer the wedge from my set. So right now I’m playing Mizuno MP-33’s wedge a 50, 54, 58 in the Cleveland RTX with 10 degree bounce.
Lovely, if you have a gap in your bag somewhere else it might well be worth ditching the 50 if it overlaps with your PW 👍
@@CoachLockey maybe I'll go chipper bruh!
On the top end of my bag I have driver, 3W, 5W, 19 degree H... I currently use the hybrid to take up the space where 3i and 4i are. I don't mind manipulating it to cover 180-200yds... If you got another suggestion I'm all ears!
I like my Mack daddy 5 with 56 14 bounce s grind. It works well in wet conditions and thick grass. I also use the jaws 50 10 degree bounce for my chips I want to roll further and tighter lies.
Nice 👌
Amazing how when we used to buy a set of Clubs and we got a Sand Iron and a Wedge. No bounce worries nor Loft worries. we played with what we were given.
Hi Coach Lockey Great 👍 Video, (4wedges) 56deg x13 bounce PM grind Callaway & 54deg x14 PM grind, T300 43 deg PW & T300 48deg GW both Titleist, you did a Titleist T300 Iron review and said try the Wedges:- I did and got them both and delighted 👍with them much more forgiving than tour wedges & fit perfectly with the Irons😃, being a little stronger with the lofts, Thanks Dickey 9hcp 75year Senior Golfer
So there is still hope then for this 66 year old to get to a single digit hcp.
Hi coach Lockey was thinking about getting a Ping ChipR, I have a excellent short game love hitting different shots around the Green😃, Enjoy the challenge of hitting it close👍, And was thinking 🤔 this club could give me extra options with a running shot, have read lot’s of reviews all rate it as a great new club, And particularly liked reading you get a nice bit of spin to control distance’s, Would love to hear your thoughts,Dickey 9hcp 75year Senior Golfer
Hey Lockey Boy! My favorite wedges are free ones please send me the high bounce 60, 56 and 52.
haha I wish I could.
@@CoachLockey seriously though love your content and wit. You and Mark really make me laugh so hard!