I do think its ironic the sigi pro saber is considered too heavy, we have one in our club and its the second lightest saber we use xD. Most sabers in our club are more similar to the polish saber you show, though we have a mix of polish and british sabers. This seems fairly similar to the regenyei sabers we have in our club, a bit lighter then the standard sigi saber, without being a true "dueling" saber/sport fencing saber.
@@CrewrowLarine Correct. Mine's 721g. Just legal. Funnily enough I have an original 1845 pattern rifle officer's sword that's at 649g. So the real deal would be too light xD.
Thank you!! Been waiting for an experienced tournament fighter review of this saber. It speaks to me as a novice trying to figure out what appeals to me the most about the weapon. This looks absolutely perfect for my style, heavily British influenced, mostly early to mid 19th century. It really does look and handle like the infantry officers sabers of that period. Awesome review.
@@TheMattStunts seriously though, Kvetun needs to get their head out of the sand and release a saber in the 700-750 gram range. I have fought with the Easton 3 and it’s a chunky boy at around 850g. It’s fine for club sparring but not in competition settings.
Nice video, I think that your point about different tournament rules is rly important when we talk about topic of weight of any weapon. As you said using lighter or heavier sword depends on preference and regulations. I am personally from Poland so I have no clue how it feels to fence with saber which is lighter then 750 grams honestly but it would be fun to try
Speaking for CIS region - we do have min weight in our rulesets. Most commonly used are 800 or 850gr sets with couple of tournaments with 750gr min weight.
Great review, I think there's a lot to be said for preferences in saber, and if you have a bit of money and want to go middle of the road from a weight perspective, this looks like a great option.
Not a bad breakdown. I will probably be getting one myself as I like Sigi track record on quality. The balance is my main concern as you said where the weight is matters. I’m gonna get one and we shall fight 💪🏻
Hello! First of all, congratulations for your channel and thanks for your review. I'm from Spain and I practice HEMA in Madrid. I love sabre, it is my favourite weapon. We like lighter sabres, like dueling ones. Currently I am using a modified Hutton but it's too short. Could you tell me which is the dueling saber you show on the video? Thanks!
Great and based review of the Sabre. I don´t really like this style of guard but that´s personal preference. For the min and max weights: I actually had to look this up, but the DDHF (Germany fencers association) has a weight minimum of 700g and can go up til 1,1 kg for tournaments. Everything under 700g will not be allowed to compete. So yeah weight wise it´s really more of a light side Sabre here. May i ask what kind of gloves you are normally using for Sabre fencing?
An excellent video, and just yesterday when we finished a saber tournament here in Peru we were questioning the weight standards of the tournaments in the USA and Europe. PS: What brand is the dueling saber that you show in the video? the one you mention is your favorite
Josh regularly uses the Hanwei 'Pecoraro' hilt (it’s actually a Masiello hilt, being perforated) with the 16 mm sabre blade by Castille, which is a pretty clean drop-in. He’s got other blades in his sabre graveyard, but that’s the money. I think the newer iterations of the Hanwei Pecoraro have a lighter guard, a slightly thinner shell for weight reduction, so that’s where the 600 g vs 650 g difference comes in. Do keep in mind that the stock Hanwei blade on their Pecoraro has notoriously inconsistent QC, so it might snap in two days or not for much longer. Castille blades are a bit more pricey than some other options, but few others are offering something as light as their 16 mm blade (maybe the replacement blades for the SIGI Light? we don’t have disassembly specs in this video, though).
Thanks for the video! It seems like as a middle of the ground saber this would also be a good option for a beginner, no? Asking for a friend -(its me, I'm the friend)
In the main saber tournament in Italy (CSEN circuit) the saber has to be between 600 and 850g, but I would also say that the main saber in Italian treatises are, as far as I know, dueling sabers more than infantry sabers.
Do you most spar against matched weight sabres? I have been moving towards lighter weapons in an attempt to be kinder and gentler, but I have had the occassional shot from a heavier blade blow through and strike me. Do you ever have issues with that kind of thing?
Ok so big question, how do you feel on the durability front? We all wanna capitalize on the speed of a dueling saber but considering the lack of regulation on the weapon it's common to put our lighter sabers against weapons they just weren't designed to fence against. I'm fine having a sliiiiightly heavier blade if it means I can use it for coaching, sparring and tourneys. Great review tough man, concise, well edited and to the point!
Are you using the lightest Castille has to offer? They have a 23 mm ‘trooper’ blade, and then their 20 mm and 16 mm sabre blades are lighter still (and slightly longer, mostly due to less curve). Of course, the 16 mm is a bit more likely to break, but for someone who competes as much as False Edge it’s worth that difference. The latest hilts for the Hanwei Pecoraro are also lighter still than their first iteration due to a slightly thinner shell, which is where I think the 600 g vs 650 g difference comes from.
Got sigi saber bow (with a fuller). Extremely floppy, on sigis' site it is stated that the flex is 7-8,5 kg, but so is krieger S2 and they act very differently. It is impossible to parry anything with this noodle. Don't know if it's just mine or is it normal for all of these sabers.
I've got a Sigi light on order and am very much looking forward to it. Your review solidifies exactly why I wanted it, thank you!
I do think its ironic the sigi pro saber is considered too heavy, we have one in our club and its the second lightest saber we use xD. Most sabers in our club are more similar to the polish saber you show, though we have a mix of polish and british sabers. This seems fairly similar to the regenyei sabers we have in our club, a bit lighter then the standard sigi saber, without being a true "dueling" saber/sport fencing saber.
Yes, Sigi pro is my "light" saber
@@flashingsword wild
@@FalseEdgeHEMA I also habe a Sigi light and here (in Germany) it scratches the near a lot of minimum weights in tournaments.
@@zedernwchter2556 german tournament rules are set as 700-1100g if I'm correct
@@CrewrowLarine Correct. Mine's 721g. Just legal. Funnily enough I have an original 1845 pattern rifle officer's sword that's at 649g. So the real deal would be too light xD.
This guy having fun with the Sabre vs him trying with it is a crazy difference. Wish I could link the other video
Thank you!! Been waiting for an experienced tournament fighter review of this saber. It speaks to me as a novice trying to figure out what appeals to me the most about the weapon. This looks absolutely perfect for my style, heavily British influenced, mostly early to mid 19th century. It really does look and handle like the infantry officers sabers of that period. Awesome review.
Right, can’t get an honest review out of Easton as he has a saber named after him by another company 🤣
@@TheMattStunts seriously though, Kvetun needs to get their head out of the sand and release a saber in the 700-750 gram range. I have fought with the Easton 3 and it’s a chunky boy at around 850g. It’s fine for club sparring but not in competition settings.
@@SwordScience I believe that they have... It's the Gymnasium saber 1895. Is listed as 750g in Kvetun's page
Nice video, I think that your point about different tournament rules is rly important when we talk about topic of weight of any weapon. As you said using lighter or heavier sword depends on preference and regulations. I am personally from Poland so I have no clue how it feels to fence with saber which is lighter then 750 grams honestly but it would be fun to try
In Europe there's few tournaments which allow some super light sabes as those who have 650 grams
Speaking for CIS region - we do have min weight in our rulesets. Most commonly used are 800 or 850gr sets with couple of tournaments with 750gr min weight.
Great review, I think there's a lot to be said for preferences in saber, and if you have a bit of money and want to go middle of the road from a weight perspective, this looks like a great option.
I really liked the sigi, it helped in the bind but still had a bit of speed
I like how you keep it a buck. Great review thank you.
Not a bad breakdown. I will probably be getting one myself as I like Sigi track record on quality. The balance is my main concern as you said where the weight is matters. I’m gonna get one and we shall fight 💪🏻
I’m a Sigi SIMP
Hello! First of all, congratulations for your channel and thanks for your review. I'm from Spain and I practice HEMA in Madrid. I love sabre, it is my favourite weapon. We like lighter sabres, like dueling ones. Currently I am using a modified Hutton but it's too short. Could you tell me which is the dueling saber you show on the video? Thanks!
Great and based review of the Sabre. I don´t really like this style of guard but that´s personal preference.
For the min and max weights:
I actually had to look this up, but the DDHF (Germany fencers association) has a weight minimum of 700g and can go up til 1,1 kg for tournaments. Everything under 700g will not be allowed to compete.
So yeah weight wise it´s really more of a light side Sabre here.
May i ask what kind of gloves you are normally using for Sabre fencing?
In Poland most common ruleset allows min. 700g for sabres.
An excellent video, and just yesterday when we finished a saber tournament here in Peru we were questioning the weight standards of the tournaments in the USA and Europe.
PS: What brand is the dueling saber that you show in the video? the one you mention is your favorite
Josh regularly uses the Hanwei 'Pecoraro' hilt (it’s actually a Masiello hilt, being perforated) with the 16 mm sabre blade by Castille, which is a pretty clean drop-in. He’s got other blades in his sabre graveyard, but that’s the money. I think the newer iterations of the Hanwei Pecoraro have a lighter guard, a slightly thinner shell for weight reduction, so that’s where the 600 g vs 650 g difference comes in.
Do keep in mind that the stock Hanwei blade on their Pecoraro has notoriously inconsistent QC, so it might snap in two days or not for much longer. Castille blades are a bit more pricey than some other options, but few others are offering something as light as their 16 mm blade (maybe the replacement blades for the SIGI Light? we don’t have disassembly specs in this video, though).
Thanks for the video! It seems like as a middle of the ground saber this would also be a good option for a beginner, no? Asking for a friend -(its me, I'm the friend)
In the main saber tournament in Italy (CSEN circuit) the saber has to be between 600 and 850g, but I would also say that the main saber in Italian treatises are, as far as I know, dueling sabers more than infantry sabers.
How's the flex compared to the Castille blade both in terms of of much force it takes and where it flexes?
accidently cause this early as a pleasant surprise, nice video man
i got the Ensifer Black because i loved the blade profile and shape but she is really heavy and i wished i had started with something lighter
Based video, based gentlemen, based all around.
@@josiasarcadia no u
we use 750g/800g-1000g as min-max for sabres 😎
Do you most spar against matched weight sabres? I have been moving towards lighter weapons in an attempt to be kinder and gentler, but I have had the occassional shot from a heavier blade blow through and strike me. Do you ever have issues with that kind of thing?
Out of curiosity, if there's no weight minimum, what's stopping you from using a sport saber in tournaments?
Ok so big question, how do you feel on the durability front? We all wanna capitalize on the speed of a dueling saber but considering the lack of regulation on the weapon it's common to put our lighter sabers against weapons they just weren't designed to fence against.
I'm fine having a sliiiiightly heavier blade if it means I can use it for coaching, sparring and tourneys.
Great review tough man, concise, well edited and to the point!
Whats your opinion on Russ Mitchel's views on Duelling sabers?
The tournament I’m going to this weekend I was a weight minimum of I think 650 g - maybe 750 I don’t remember.
Where do you get your pants from
Are you using a castille blade on a hanwei hilt for your dueling saber? I have that set up, and mine is 770g. How are you getting it so light?
Are you using the lightest Castille has to offer? They have a 23 mm ‘trooper’ blade, and then their 20 mm and 16 mm sabre blades are lighter still (and slightly longer, mostly due to less curve). Of course, the 16 mm is a bit more likely to break, but for someone who competes as much as False Edge it’s worth that difference.
The latest hilts for the Hanwei Pecoraro are also lighter still than their first iteration due to a slightly thinner shell, which is where I think the 600 g vs 650 g difference comes from.
@@jonharker9028 I’m using the 16mm blades with Pecoraro hilts purchased in 2022.
Got sigi saber bow (with a fuller). Extremely floppy, on sigis' site it is stated that the flex is 7-8,5 kg, but so is krieger S2 and they act very differently. It is impossible to parry anything with this noodle. Don't know if it's just mine or is it normal for all of these sabers.
What's that duelling sabre with the perforated hilt? It looks like a Hanwei Pecoraro but the blade is different? :)
Hanwei Pec hilt with a Castille 16mm Italian Dueling Sabre blade
@@FalseEdgeHEMA Thanks!
Well, that was a pretty honest review...
If it’s not a claymore, it’s a car antenna. Facts (jk)
first of all, what the hell is a "martially valid blade"?🤣
second, awesome review. Thank you.