"Sigi Montante" vs "The Iberian" | The safest weapons for realistic medival combat

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  • @dequitem
    @dequitem  4 місяці тому +2

    Sigi Montante sword: sigiforge.com/products/sigi-montante/

    • @henkisos6097
      @henkisos6097 2 місяці тому

      Great video, may you share information about your plastic arm protectors and the long mask overlay in the video?

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  2 місяці тому +1

      @henkisos6097 mayby one day. But till than. I can recommend ultimate Z

    • @henkisos6097
      @henkisos6097 2 місяці тому

      @@dequitem Thanks,
      And what is the name of the overly you are using?

  • @dashrendar5320
    @dashrendar5320 6 місяців тому +201

    Man I know it’s not about this but you always pick the most gorgeous spots to film 😂 well done

    • @DannyCurrinton
      @DannyCurrinton 6 місяців тому +23

      Very true lol, Bros always picking the best locations🤣

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +74

      Of course its also about my locations. I am an artist and I cant publish it if it do not stunn myself ;)

  • @Imdippinout
    @Imdippinout 6 місяців тому +74

    Lets take a moment to appreciate how this guy was able to talk for 12 minutes straight explaining in depth what fighting with a large sword is like all in a foreign language.

  • @Verixz-mz4zj
    @Verixz-mz4zj 6 місяців тому +129

    Bro’s got some gorgeous hair ngl

  • @ahuman6277
    @ahuman6277 5 місяців тому +19

    There is so much fear-based safety misinformation in HEMA. I was always told not to buckler punch because I'd give my opponent a concussion. Then I actually took a full-force buckler punch to the face and found out it didn't even hurt. "There's no safe way to spar with a montante," is another myth I've been skeptical of for some time. Thank you for testing it for us and taking the time to tell us about these beautiful swords!

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  5 місяців тому +3

      Thanks for your kind words!

    • @mattjack3983
      @mattjack3983 4 місяці тому +4

      There is ALOT of fear-based safety misinformation in HEMA! It frustrates the hell out of me. I have been told the same thing about punching with a buckler. Yes, you actually CAN give someone a concussion by punching them in the face or head with a buckler. But as someone who comes from a Muay Thai, FMA, and MMA background, and also trains and competes in Buhurt, i can promise you that you can give someone a concussion just the same by punching them in the face or head with a boxing glove. Getting punched in the face with a buckler while sparring isn't going to be any worse than being punched in the face with a fist. All sparring is going to come with at least SOME risk, if a level of realism is to be maintained. That's just a fact of life that you have to accept in martial arts training. The rules I normally spar under my training partners are simple:
      Don't hit me any harder than you want me to hit you. And do whatever you like as long as you are OK with me doing it back to you.
      Me and my partners are all in our 40s or older, and are all experienced martial artist from various backgrounds. We trust each other and are mature enough and experienced enough to spar with minimal "rules" to regulate safety, and in 5 years of training HEMA together, haven't injured each other once, other than bruises and the very rare occasional bloody nose or broken finger.

  • @RandomWolf44
    @RandomWolf44 6 місяців тому +17

    The ringing of the swords in the first fight is a magnificent sound.

  • @jylbo
    @jylbo 6 місяців тому +46

    Hey UA-cam, this channel is awesome, tell you algorithm to recommend this.

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +9

      I absolutely agree 😅

  • @nickthegreat9434
    @nickthegreat9434 6 місяців тому +21

    You really strike me as a young knight, dashing and good with the sword! Keep doing what youre doing man

  • @Talos_The_King
    @Talos_The_King 5 місяців тому +7

    I was considering buying the montante last night but decided to look for reviews and couldn't find any. Then tonight, i come across this in my recommended. Awesome video. I purchased the montante right after viewing.

  • @A_Medieval_Shadow
    @A_Medieval_Shadow 6 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for the insightful review! You show exactly what I see very seldomly in other reviews.

  • @A_Moustached_Sock
    @A_Moustached_Sock 6 місяців тому +7

    Thank you for the video. Im glad there is another to hopefully jumpstart this discussion and give another perspective on the use of these steel trainers and how ultimately they are plenty safe for sparring so long as you aren't an incompetent sparring partner driven by your own ego. Which if you were then you definitely dont need to training this or any other martial art at that point.

  • @LittleHouseOnThePrairie23
    @LittleHouseOnThePrairie23 5 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful fencing. Much more similar to ‘normal’ longsword fencing than I had imagined in my head. Thank you for the beautiful demonstrations you’ve been doing lately.
    I genuinely believe you are elevating the art.
    Cheers.

  • @themaidenlesswretch7819
    @themaidenlesswretch7819 6 місяців тому +7

    Always incredible, you’re the best!

  • @neilaleksandrov2655
    @neilaleksandrov2655 5 місяців тому +1

    I am so glad to watch this video. It shows you actually don't kill your partners...
    The locations you choose are so beautiful you make an excellent filmmaker... I don't think even Hollywood has that sort of taste for real beauty... Although your work sometimes reminds me of Ridley Scotts "The Duelists"

  • @rooo358
    @rooo358 6 місяців тому +4

    I’m a big fan of medieval history, but I tend to focus more on the clothes and don’t really know a thing about swords. I put this on intending to listen to it while I did some embroidery but in the end not a stitch got done because I was so absorbed by the video! I had no idea you could get swords that long (quite alarming to find they’re almost as tall as I am!) I also love the sound quality of your video, just listening to the clash of swords and the crickets made me feel like I was in a castle watching knights duelling in the training grounds. I look forward to seeing more of your videos and learning more!

    • @corvanphoenix
      @corvanphoenix 2 місяці тому +1

      @rooo358 lol! I focus on the swords but don't know a thing about the clothes! 🤣 I purchased some awesome linen & patterns the past Black Friday, but I can't even fold the thing let alone understand it! 🤣 I literally just learnt trigonometry instead of working out how to read the pattern. That was all very stressful of course, so I've paused to quickly make a wooden sword. Should be OK to try making clothes again in another day or so 😝

  • @Eissenherz
    @Eissenherz 6 місяців тому +4

    Such beautiful swords, gotta love them the most, thanks for sharing!

  • @christopherhawes9173
    @christopherhawes9173 4 місяці тому +1

    These are awesome realistic battles that look like you would have seen in the past. very cool content.

  • @reinoldi1097
    @reinoldi1097 6 місяців тому +20

    0:29 ...
    Hollywood....
    TAKE NOTES ! ... xD
    ok now i watch the video ^^

  • @8lvr9
    @8lvr9 6 місяців тому +1

    You truly are a one of a kind. Thank you for your content, stay safe.

  • @whakadabellgate5699
    @whakadabellgate5699 6 місяців тому +1

    This was really fascinating and informative. Good one.

  • @Temporaire7
    @Temporaire7 5 місяців тому +2

    My dream is to one day be able to forge my own medieval armor and a light longsword, shaped like theses :)
    I don't have the skills, the money or the knowledge, but I'll get there. This dream has no particular origin, although it's a concrete one, since I've been thinking about it for years. I've even made sketches of a muscular leather cuirass like the centurions, and the dream also includes a sailing ship. Where to? No fcking idea

  • @_Mugen_
    @_Mugen_ 6 місяців тому +15

    I’ve been wanting a sigi montante for so long now 😭😭 if only I wasn’t a broke peasant serf

    • @twobob8585
      @twobob8585 6 місяців тому +3

      Your get a pointy stick and be satisfied with that ( - ;

    • @_Mugen_
      @_Mugen_ 6 місяців тому

      @@twobob8585 I got my longsword and she’s a beauty I should be happy

    • @mikio8120
      @mikio8120 5 місяців тому

      if you go full optional on their website it will be €880,-. seems fair to me

  • @RyanPerez-x1j
    @RyanPerez-x1j 5 місяців тому +2

    amazing vid 🔥

  • @lo95cdex
    @lo95cdex 6 місяців тому +4

    adding some personal experience with heavier blades.
    My armoured longsword 1,3m is indeed a bit heavier, around 1,8kg, with diamond shaped crossection and pointy (somewhat unsafe) crossguard and pommel.
    That being said, I use it in normal historical gambeson (a bit more padded than my arming doublet) and good hema mask, I think a bruise might have been the worst I've suffered.
    I've also got a two handed 1,8m 2,5kg sword but used it in armour or light sparring, no injuries but we've never tried full speed.

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +3

      Nice experiences.
      Yes 2,5 kg is a little bit heavier than 1,8 kg and I would recommend full speed sparring with such a Blade too.

    • @lo95cdex
      @lo95cdex 6 місяців тому +3

      @@dequitem I'd have to try with someone who trusts me, there is a bit of stigma with heavier blades. Merited to an extent.

  • @Vavaski-bugleb
    @Vavaski-bugleb 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for sharing, big fan from Belgium 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Cosmo_noBones
    @Cosmo_noBones 5 місяців тому +1

    The sounds 0:46 incredible

  • @lunarprocyon
    @lunarprocyon 5 місяців тому

    I try to learn something new everyday. Pretty sure I've filled my quota for the week. You make a normally dry subject juicier than a carton of OJ.

  • @diogenesstudent5585
    @diogenesstudent5585 6 місяців тому +6

    I assumed the warhammers would be the most dangerous.

  • @DannyCurrinton
    @DannyCurrinton 6 місяців тому +4

    I really like the Sigi Monante sword alot, i like the swords design, its a very safe Fencing sword. Sick video Beautiful location!

  • @caedenkniep3528
    @caedenkniep3528 6 місяців тому +7

    Would you be interested in making videos on how to make armour? I noticed the blackening on the arm harness you're wearing in the video is quite dark, and i would love to learn your techniques.

  • @mattjack3983
    @mattjack3983 4 місяці тому

    I dont have fear or concern for your safety at all. You are an adult and can do what you like. Moreover, you are a trained and experienced martial artist, and you know what you're doing. Im confident that you have the skill and experience to keep yourself safe when you fight, as well as the maturity and class to accept whatever injuries you may recieve with dignity. If realism is to be maintained, there will always be some level of risk, and that is just a fact that every martial artist must accept when sparring.

  • @jorgen-ingmarcastell2864
    @jorgen-ingmarcastell2864 6 місяців тому +3

    Very interesting video.
    Another point of the speed of the blade.
    If not to heavy, the longer blade, the more speed at the point than cutting.
    Than it is to heavy, I don´t know, it depends how big and strong the wielder is.

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +1

      1,8 to 2 kg isn't heavy so yes the tip of these two swords will even be faster than most longswords.

  • @twobob8585
    @twobob8585 6 місяців тому +4

    I thought you my have dressed up a bit more brightly coloured to take on the roll of a true Landsknecht.😀

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +1

      But that's my regular hema gear.

    • @twobob8585
      @twobob8585 6 місяців тому +2

      @@dequitem Just pulling your leg.

  • @Michael_MW
    @Michael_MW 5 місяців тому

    You have an eye for production sir!

  • @dennealowens3790
    @dennealowens3790 6 місяців тому +1

    Dude love your videos can you do a video where you fight during a sunset in a open field pls

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +1

      One day for sure.

  • @gahmuretvanbegonia994
    @gahmuretvanbegonia994 5 місяців тому

    SIGI really is a good smith, i'm satisfied with mine

  • @monkeytogetherstrong9666
    @monkeytogetherstrong9666 6 місяців тому +1

    Lovely video my friend, my question has nothing to do with the video and I may be wrong but are you Bavarian by any chance? you have always given me Austro-Bavarian vibes, I do not know why. Well either way keep up the good work👍

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +3

      I come from north Germany. So I am not Bavarian, but I am also not offended! 😂😂😂

    • @monkeytogetherstrong9666
      @monkeytogetherstrong9666 6 місяців тому +1

      @@dequitem Oh well my bad😅, well nonetheless thank you for indulging my curiosity

  • @GorksChosenTitan
    @GorksChosenTitan 24 дні тому

    These 2 swords are great! I have a KA spadone, which I fthink is too dangerous for hema fencing.

  • @corvanphoenix
    @corvanphoenix 2 місяці тому

    I can't afford a Sigi Montante yet. So I'm making one out of hardwood! 🤣 I'll be sparring against Cold Steel poly longswords so it will be fine! I tell you, after spending days hand sanding the fuller on my arming sword & still only being half done, wood is a nice change! I'm close to finished all but the furniture already.

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  2 місяці тому +2

      😬 It will break, ad the brocken part can be dangerous! Be careful!

    • @corvanphoenix
      @corvanphoenix 2 місяці тому

      @dequitem Thanks, I'll be careful & carefully monitor it. We don't often spar with metal longswords because they snap! 🤣

  • @BongoX2x2
    @BongoX2x2 5 місяців тому +1

    “Don’t kill your training partner”. That would be good advice.

  • @robthompson1399
    @robthompson1399 Місяць тому

    Very interesting, thank you.
    What is your day job ? Is this a hobby, or full time knight ?

  • @doppelsoldner
    @doppelsoldner 6 місяців тому +6

    5:09 Yes that thrust was Tasty ❤

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +2

      Sorry😘

    • @Lamawalrus
      @Lamawalrus 6 місяців тому +2

      Some fun exchanges in this video as well, thank you guys

  • @hectorfr
    @hectorfr 6 місяців тому +1

    gracias

  • @Count._Dusk
    @Count._Dusk 6 місяців тому

    Man, I watched your other video, I would not want to be the guy getting hit. Those looked like some bruises in the making. Also the validation of knowing someone else uses siderings to carry swords like that is brilliant!
    Edit: I do actually have a question, it seemed like you guys weren't doing a lot of the momentum plays greatsword does. Was that intentional to avoid injury?

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +2

      No if you do the momentum stuff, it's easy to predict. That's not suitable for a duel.

    • @Count._Dusk
      @Count._Dusk 6 місяців тому

      ​@@dequitem Thank you for the explanation!

  • @artemvlasov1440
    @artemvlasov1440 6 місяців тому

    Hey, Dequitem you should do a video on the half sword playtest demo

  • @XandrestarX
    @XandrestarX 14 днів тому

    Cross guard rings can be unsafe when you grapple. When the fight goes to the ground you might land on your sword's rings and get injured

  • @TheFencingFox
    @TheFencingFox 6 місяців тому +2

    Where did you get your lirripipe hood overlay? I love it💚

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +2

      I stitched it myself.

    • @TheFencingFox
      @TheFencingFox 6 місяців тому +1

      @@dequitem it looks amazing, great job 🤘

  • @benjyfour
    @benjyfour 6 місяців тому +1

    I know a case of thie Piercing into a lung (hema tournement Lack of proper armor)

  • @feilixsoundstream145
    @feilixsoundstream145 6 місяців тому +1

    Dang I didn’t comment yet. Algorithm get a boost !

  • @ДикийЛесник-щ7г
    @ДикийЛесник-щ7г 5 місяців тому

    What about the Danish early two-handed sword, adapted for a powerful injection, who had a faceted narrow blade? Is it a good option in a duel and on the battlefield against a knight?

  • @William1-s8n
    @William1-s8n 6 місяців тому +1

    Hey, can you explain to me the difference between HMB and HEMA. Because theres a HEMA group in my city but from what it looks like, there isnt really that much armour involved and mainly just fencing masks and padding.

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +8

      Hmb is in armor but without thrusts. Hema is with thrusts but most hema clubs don't know shit about armored fencing. The best way is to do both and at the end you have to found your own harness fencing club like I did 😅

    • @William1-s8n
      @William1-s8n 6 місяців тому +1

      @@dequitem damn, well, I better hope this Hema club has people that know things about HMB and stuff. But thank you for the info. I appreciate it 🙏

  • @npeay6297
    @npeay6297 5 місяців тому

    Safest pommels for practicing how to end them rightly?

  • @infernofairy8810
    @infernofairy8810 6 місяців тому +1

    I sure would like one of these swords but im in America and they are the same price as a pistol

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +1

      Yes but is your pistol safe? 😅😅😅

  • @serhaterzi
    @serhaterzi 5 місяців тому

    I'm not sure but I feel like you speak Turkish too. I would be happy if you could feed my curiosity lol

  • @knucklesamwich-d1y
    @knucklesamwich-d1y 6 місяців тому +3

    are swords ideal for home defense?

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +2

      A sharp one can be leathal!

    • @afistfulfett7526
      @afistfulfett7526 6 місяців тому +4

      A spear is always the budget choice and you can launch it like a javelin

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +2

      @@afistfulfett7526 spears are to long for indoor fights. That's why I think a sword is absolutely the better home defense weapon. A Falchion would be even better in slashing unarmored home invaders but a sword is easyer to throw!

    • @qeter129
      @qeter129 6 місяців тому +7

      Katana's are the best suited swords for home defence in the current market. A good katana can be purchased around 150$, can be used in one or two hands, is short enough to be used in compact hall ways, is long enough to deal an immediate mortal wound in one strike, and is easy to store. If your being serious a pavese shield is a great follow-up purchase. In the 2022 riots a Dallas store owner defending his store with a cold steel gladius was stoned to death by rioters for a lack of ranged protection. Your never too advanced to get killed by a rock.

    • @gregorylatta8159
      @gregorylatta8159 6 місяців тому

      Viking Axe 😆

  • @moogrooper28
    @moogrooper28 6 місяців тому

    Do you have a full light gear sparring video with two handed sword?

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому

      Yes. It's my last duel video. Called high intensity.

  • @TheChadPad
    @TheChadPad 3 місяці тому

    There is more danger in boxing than what you two do with those swords.

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  3 місяці тому

      For your head yes, for your bones no.

    • @TheChadPad
      @TheChadPad 3 місяці тому

      @@dequitem Good point

  • @NIL0S
    @NIL0S 6 місяців тому

    Is it realistic/practical to use a shield with 2 handed swords?

  • @jaype331
    @jaype331 6 місяців тому

    What old swordfighting Manuel did you study?

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +1

      All armored fighting manuals.

    • @jaype331
      @jaype331 6 місяців тому

      @@dequitem okay thought some people just pick one and try to master it. Thanks 🙏

  • @AGS363
    @AGS363 6 місяців тому

    If it is safe to train Olympic fencing, where the full momentum is focused on a single point, it should also be safe to train with two-handed swords.

  • @Bounty_Hunter0000
    @Bounty_Hunter0000 6 місяців тому

    Whaaaat are thoooose... pants? Not Spes?

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +1

      They are made by spes 😅😅😅

    • @Bounty_Hunter0000
      @Bounty_Hunter0000 6 місяців тому

      @@dequitem Alright :D

  • @felix.der.ritter
    @felix.der.ritter 6 місяців тому

    I got stabbed multipel times by Dequitem

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому

      And your still alive, so I am safe as well. 😍

  • @kluyvik928
    @kluyvik928 6 місяців тому +1

    Это невозможно, первое что люди увидят это цель😇 если вы поняли о чём я!!!

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому

      I am not sure if the translation is correct.

    • @kluyvik928
      @kluyvik928 6 місяців тому

      @@dequitem even if you want to become a warrior, it’s better to buy weapons😂

  • @royalecrafts6252
    @royalecrafts6252 6 місяців тому

    is plenty safe

  • @truepremise2053
    @truepremise2053 6 місяців тому

    You weren't using jaeger then. Apologies.

  • @IL4NCER
    @IL4NCER 6 місяців тому

    Can you do a test of weapons stabs vs mail? bonus points if you get a ballistic dummy

  • @blumiu2426
    @blumiu2426 6 місяців тому +3

    I guess that was what I was noticing. It really is beautiful and not at all cumbersome to look at as one might think two-handed would be. However, likely is because you and partner knew what you were doing and thus shows the art form. Why film avoids actual fighting like this is strange. I guess because when it comes to finish an opponent, it's not dynamic or cinematic, but frantic and brutal. I never knew how much a dagger came into play most times if didn't finish with sword.

    • @dequitem
      @dequitem  6 місяців тому +1

      I love to look at grappling with swords in reality but I hat movie knife fights. It's always to clean.