Congratulations to Olbrychski, but kudos to Stanson for accepting the results with dignity - he was outmatched and defeated, yet kept his "cool" and carried on with a smile on his face. Well done, sir.
This is awesome because it should create a resurgence of interest in the Polish sabre. I feel like the sabre has more variation in styles than the longsword and therefore should be a fascinating weapon for HEMA tournaments. Olbrychski definitely has a different style to Stanson for example.
just my opinion, but i prefer military saber boots like this to polish saber. i like the mix of cutting and thrusting better. I like Olbrychskis form though.
Daniel Olbrychski is the real deal. To you young guys, look at how much feeling he gets into his blade-that translates into meaningful inertia to control the opponent's weapons. 1:30 is what I'm always going on about re: controlling an opponent's blade. But you can only really achieve that by staying relaxed and calm, and practicing seriously for a very long time. The sword needs to be a natural extension of your body, and that's what I'm seeing from grandfather. Respect from wudang.
Oh, c'mon. Don't we all like to be excited from time to time! I'm Polish citizen myself. And familiar with the move since my childhood as a part of our popculture sts. Just hoped on the video and found out about Antoni. Man, what a story it is to me! :D It' freaking cool! Take care!
@Love Law What a silly and ignorant thing to say. How about you upload a video of you fighting with a sabre. The original comment was asking why sabre fighting was not in the olympics and had nothing to do with the level of skill the two gentlemen have.
@Love Law Care to explain? As far as I've seen, this form of fencing is not in the Olympics. Perhaps you mean the Olympic event where both fencers are on a lined mat?
@Love Law calm down good sir, olympic saber fencing is a different sport, it is limited in regard to space, since its only happening on a narrow strip, also the weapons are different.. Both sports certainly produce athletes of great skill, and since olypic saber fencing is a professional sport ofc, the olympic athletes are of exceptional skill, Still their skillset is optimized for the exact rules and limitations of olympic saber fencing. This simplificiation of Olypic Fencing is , leading to an insane amount of skill and training put into mastering the skills needed to work withing those limitation. Which will with no doubt lead to them beeing on average better in those skills that are also essential to hema saber.. But Hema Sabere Fencing also requires skills, that are kind of different to Olympic Saber.. I personaly would love to see people form an Olypic background participating in Hema Saber. So one could see how easy it is for them to use their skills and how able they are to adapt to the Hema Saber Rules and Enviroment. If you say Hema Fencing is just bad Olympic Fencing, i think you are kinda biased, because they are just different sports. I think both Sports can benefit from each other and if one of them is gaining more popularity this can also raise the interest for the other one. There realy is no need to hate on each other, when both can learn from and with each other. Respect is of vital Importance =)
I think Stanson was trying to stick to techniques from or inspired by the pre-20th Century sabre sources. It's quite evident in his guards, posture, and footwork. Olbrychski mainly used Olympic fencing and a lot or althleticism with a heavy sabre, but that's not against the rules. He played better in this context. More and more of this is happening with sabres lighter than the old Regenyeis being more available. The ruleset is key in what kind of fencing happens, not just the participants and equipment used. I don't think it's reasonable to ask someone to fence only in a certain way if their way is permitted by the ruleset.
Do those fencers come from Olympic fencing cause it feels so. Nice fight, better than most saber/hema fight, it’s hard to find some good ones on youtube
Glad to hear you enjoyed the match! Kristofer Stanson has started to practice HEMA about 15 years ago, with initial focus on saber and longevity (www.fightermag.se/2016/06/19/intervju-med-nhfl-vinnaren-kristofer-stanson-ingen-ar-omojlig-att-sla-mig/). Antoni Olbrychski is a saber instructor in Poland (www.akademia-szermierzy.pl/o-nas/), his grandfather is a Polish actor and an accomplished sabre fencer Mr. Daniel Olbrychski, who played in major Polish historical movies Colonel Wolodyjowski (1968), The Deluge (1974) and With Fire and Sword (1998) based on Henryk Sienkiewicz 19th century classical novels.
I'm surprised Olbrychski won. To me his tactic seemed too aggressive to work, like almost suicidal. For instance, his cuts at Stanson's leg exposed his head quite a lot. And don't get me started on his "jumps"! But anyway, congrats to both fighters.
It was very risky but paid out. And yeah Olbrychski was too aggressive - something that in other circumstances would have probably finished him. On the other hand Stanson was very collected and maybe would have prevailed if the fight was longer - he would be the one with more Stamina left.
Yeah, cause u dont understand fencing lol. If u can tie ur opponent up scared defending their upper body, not only is hitting their leg a good idea, its stupid to try to hit them in the place they are preoccupied to defend
я думаю раз это хема а не спортивное фехтование то нужно на соревнованиях намеренно запрещать прыжки на ногах и атаки стрелой так как они противоречат бою и уводят хема в обычное спортивное фехтование
My critique of the young fencers, although they are very good, is they get excited, and that's how you get killed. Older fencers who have mastered the art remain calm. But very few will really master it at a young age, thus the sport is going to be different from the real thing. For a parallel, look at how Kayla Harrison fights. She's still young but she's a real master because she devoted her life to it and trained with the best. She stays calm throughout her bouts, even when going against full force striking. Never forget that when people did this for real, the matches would end after a single definitive strike, not always fatal, but often incapacitating. ("First blood" rules were designed to reduce fatalities but leave honor satisfied, b/c swords are dangerous.) That's the difference between the sport, where there are no consequences, and the real thing, where there are. I love this sport, but most seem to get the two things confused. Life or death struggle is quite a different thing from fencing safely with gear, and I only bring this up because there are so many beginners out there who vastly overestimate their capabilities, having no qualified teacher to disabuse them of those notions.
Not a fan of that olympic fencing style jump attacks. He swings his saber like a flail and in a real duel he would pay with his life for a touch to his oponents leg.
Unlike the protracted sword fights we see in movies real sword fights must not have lasted long! A few seconds and someone is hit. What a bloody mess real sword fighting must have been.
The Deluge was a bad thing for Poland though. That's why the Polish call it the deluge. You should have titled it Olbrychski's Jasna Góra or "By Fire & Sword."
1610 yers Kluszyno 2700 Polisch husars vs 35000 Rusian and Sweden Victory Poland. 1605 yers Kircholm 3000 Polisch and Lituanian husars vs 13000 Sweden Victory Poland.
Dude, seriously, noone cares. That's interesting piece of historical trivia, but it has nothing to do with modern fencing. Why bring this up? To humiliate Swedes? He's a sportsman and duelist who lost with dignity to a very skilled fighter, I'm sure people who actually duel with sabers respect eachother very much.
@@MoorishBandit Yeah exactly, 200 years ago. Now it's a prosperous 1st world country in the middle of Europe, is there still need to brag about something that happened 400 years ago completely out of context?
I especially loved the little jedi-jump to tap the other guy with the sword shaped object... with absolutely 0 regard for his own survival... good god HEMA is going to crap. So thankful I stopped getting involved in competition when this sort of crap became acceptable. Next up: electronic scoring...
@@GlwaddynionForest like I said... "with absolutely 0 regard for his own survival". Most comps have bylaws/rules about reckless fencing, but I have yet to see them enforced; thereby leading to the laughable display of martial skill seen here. The moment I started noticing judges and organizers NOT calling people on reckless fencing was the moment I stopped competing.
@@wildrangeringreen this is fine lol. The doubles happen either from slight mistimes or misreads of intention. Those are just fencing errors. These blokes would wipe the floor with guys who consider themselves "martial" (and frankly the majority of martially obsessed fencers Ive met are just panicky stophitters reminiscent of beginner epeeists). Anything that isnt a double is by definition fine.
@@GlwaddynionForest stop hitting (particularly of the hands and arm) is sufficient in violent encounters... that's the difference between martial fencing and sport fencing. One's practicing to butcher another person, the other is meant to be a game that can help one get better at the former (and there's nothing wrong with that). There is a problem when one conflates the two. Just like with firearms and darts, just because you've "killed him", doesn't mean he's dead yet. Reckless fencing ignores this and dispenses with self preservation in favor of overly aggressive action; usually in an attempt to meet the artificial conditions of success put in place by a ruleset (which has been drafted to facilitate a game).
@@wildrangeringreen stophits are a favourite in olympic fencing lol what are you on about. A pretty typical criticism of epee (though somewhat outdated) is it contains too many. My comment regarding stophits arent that they are bad, just that when done reactively without initiative they will almost always lead to doubles and are often late too. I agree, training and the real thing are different. the thing with fencing is that the real thing cannot be replicated to the same degree as unarmed combat, and comeptition is still the best way to attempt it.
Cause it works, there is no existing ruleset in real life that prevent those techniques. The winner here is just using a mix of epee and sabre from olympic fencing
@@alessandrofattori6548 My solution would be the same as the solution the old Epee fencers gave. The Fencer who gets hit the least wins. This would shift the focus from hitting a higher value point target while taking a hit, to disabling your opponent without getting hit.
The only thing it changes from epee in this fight is that they use sabres (so olympics fencer moves are implemented) and timing in which you can hit back your opponent is wider. No idea why every hema guy hate sport fencing when they really have small differences.
Congratulations to Olbrychski, but kudos to Stanson for accepting the results with dignity - he was outmatched and defeated, yet kept his "cool" and carried on with a smile on his face. Well done, sir.
This is too fucking wholesome for UA-cam.
This is awesome because it should create a resurgence of interest in the Polish sabre. I feel like the sabre has more variation in styles than the longsword and therefore should be a fascinating weapon for HEMA tournaments.
Olbrychski definitely has a different style to Stanson for example.
just my opinion, but i prefer military saber boots like this to polish saber. i like the mix of cutting and thrusting better. I like Olbrychskis form though.
Daniel Olbrychski is still alive. And every CH in polish words you read like H So OlbryHski not OlbryKski :)
It's rare to see a good sabre match footage, and yours is one of those
Have you seen Skall's " expert saber sparring video" ? Definitely worth seeing.
@@thrownswordpommel7393 Its good because Skall doesn't take part in it.
@@RandomGuy-ej9gr haha lol
Historical saber is so much fun to watch
Exactly
It's even better fighting it.
Daniel Olbrychski is the real deal. To you young guys, look at how much feeling he gets into his blade-that translates into meaningful inertia to control the opponent's weapons. 1:30 is what I'm always going on about re: controlling an opponent's blade. But you can only really achieve that by staying relaxed and calm, and practicing seriously for a very long time. The sword needs to be a natural extension of your body, and that's what I'm seeing from grandfather. Respect from wudang.
Well, he almost killed the other stuntman-actor when filming that duel and he defeated a guy who was trying to hijack an airliner in real life.
Very good commentary. Makes much easier to understand the score.
I love how they already nicknamed him Olbrychski "The Deluge" Like he's some kind of wrestler XD
Great commentary and great footage! Respect to both fighters, a very entertaining duel to watch and learn from.
Some of the best if not the best hema content on youtube great editing.
Fantastic fight and a video, thank you for that
Thank you for the kind words, glad you enjoyed it!
The oldest instructions about the Polish saber fight
szablotlukpolski.pl/pages/ebooki
ua-cam.com/video/S8SauT2DfuY/v-deo.html
Antoni "Making his grandfather proud" Olbrichskiy))
It sure is a cool backstory, but the commentators are definitely milking it a little bit too much
Oh, c'mon. Don't we all like to be excited from time to time!
I'm Polish citizen myself. And familiar with the move since my childhood as a part of our popculture sts. Just hoped on the video and found out about Antoni. Man, what a story it is to me! :D It' freaking cool! Take care!
I am delighted from winning of Olbrychski
Thanks from uploading! That's not a sparring, that's tournament fight thou ;)
Thank you for pointing that out.
So this is an actual sport? I thought hema was more like acting swordplay. Like when little kids play lightsaber or what not
@@geo4424 Very much not the case - you might be thinking of LARP.
@@geo4424 its much worse than you think! ua-cam.com/video/uFB5hVYyFW8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Nerdist
Polish people were famous for their saber fencing skills
Good film. The oldest instructions about the Polish saber fight
szablotlukpolski.pl/pages/ebooki
ua-cam.com/video/S8SauT2DfuY/v-deo.html
And for putting screen doors on their submarines.
@@jacobvisor3034 wtf, dude.
WHY THIS KIND OF SPORT IS NOT IN THE OLYMPIC?! :(( replace the standard fencing saber in olympic with this
@Love Law What? I don't care about them lol that is not what I meant to know, I am asking that can this HEMA as a whole be in the Olympic
@Love Law Nah I'll pass
@Love Law What a silly and ignorant thing to say. How about you upload a video of you fighting with a sabre. The original comment was asking why sabre fighting was not in the olympics and had nothing to do with the level of skill the two gentlemen have.
@Love Law Care to explain? As far as I've seen, this form of fencing is not in the Olympics. Perhaps you mean the Olympic event where both fencers are on a lined mat?
@Love Law calm down good sir, olympic saber fencing is a different sport, it is limited in regard to space, since its only happening on a narrow strip, also the weapons are different.. Both sports certainly produce athletes of great skill, and since olypic saber fencing is a professional sport ofc, the olympic athletes are of exceptional skill, Still their skillset is optimized for the exact rules and limitations of olympic saber fencing. This simplificiation of Olypic Fencing is , leading to an insane amount of skill and training put into mastering the skills needed to work withing those limitation. Which will with no doubt lead to them beeing on average better in those skills that are also essential to hema saber.. But Hema Sabere Fencing also requires skills, that are kind of different to Olympic Saber.. I personaly would love to see people form an Olypic background participating in Hema Saber. So one could see how easy it is for them to use their skills and how able they are to adapt to the Hema Saber Rules and Enviroment.
If you say Hema Fencing is just bad Olympic Fencing, i think you are kinda biased, because they are just different sports. I think both Sports can benefit from each other and if one of them is gaining more popularity this can also raise the interest for the other one.
There realy is no need to hate on each other, when both can learn from and with each other.
Respect is of vital Importance =)
BRAWO ANTONI !
The oldest instructions about the Polish saber fight
szablotlukpolski.pl/pages/ebooki
ua-cam.com/video/S8SauT2DfuY/v-deo.html
Antek jest na prawdę dobry!!! :)
The oldest instructions about the Polish saber fight
szablotlukpolski.pl/pages/ebooki
ua-cam.com/video/S8SauT2DfuY/v-deo.html
Daniel Olbrychski my Hero!!!
Outstanding saber assault!
The sparks flying is probably the best part man
Maybe somebody know where to buy or what name of under helmet protection like Olbrychski have?
BLOODY GOOD GAME
Well fought!
I think Stanson was trying to stick to techniques from or inspired by the pre-20th Century sabre sources. It's quite evident in his guards, posture, and footwork. Olbrychski mainly used Olympic fencing and a lot or althleticism with a heavy sabre, but that's not against the rules. He played better in this context.
More and more of this is happening with sabres lighter than the old Regenyeis being more available. The ruleset is key in what kind of fencing happens, not just the participants and equipment used. I don't think it's reasonable to ask someone to fence only in a certain way if their way is permitted by the ruleset.
Do those fencers come from Olympic fencing cause it feels so. Nice fight, better than most saber/hema fight, it’s hard to find some good ones on youtube
Glad to hear you enjoyed the match! Kristofer Stanson has started to practice HEMA about 15 years ago, with initial focus on saber and longevity (www.fightermag.se/2016/06/19/intervju-med-nhfl-vinnaren-kristofer-stanson-ingen-ar-omojlig-att-sla-mig/). Antoni Olbrychski is a saber instructor in Poland (www.akademia-szermierzy.pl/o-nas/), his grandfather is a Polish actor and an accomplished sabre fencer Mr. Daniel Olbrychski, who played in major Polish historical movies Colonel Wolodyjowski (1968), The Deluge (1974) and With Fire and Sword (1998) based on Henryk Sienkiewicz 19th century classical novels.
@@ViciouSExorcisT Greetings from Poland I like your great WOTR videos
@@luckyjosh84 Greetings, Josh! I hope you'll enjoy the future material as well, as you know, I always focus on quality vs quantity. ;)
All the hits are called based on the Ref?
Commentators might try not to attempt to interrupt and take over from one another all the time.
Antoni Olbrychski - znany z bycia wnukiem Dziadek byłby dumny Kippo
To jest zajebiste
Воистину, братан.
The oldest instructions about the Polish saber fight
szablotlukpolski.pl/pages/ebooki
ua-cam.com/video/S8SauT2DfuY/v-deo.html
Fact skalla is the brodcaster
"We have joined each other in death."
Похоже что Antoni раньше фехтовал на шпаге в спортивном фехтовании
The great northern war rematch!
great northern war was russia vs Sveden not Poland vs Sveden =)
I'm surprised Olbrychski won. To me his tactic seemed too aggressive to work, like almost suicidal. For instance, his cuts at Stanson's leg exposed his head quite a lot. And don't get me started on his "jumps"! But anyway, congrats to both fighters.
I also expected Stanson's more collected and calm stance to prevail, but maybe Olbrychski is cheating through his blood lineage :D
It was very risky but paid out. And yeah Olbrychski was too aggressive - something that in other circumstances would have probably finished him. On the other hand Stanson was very collected and maybe would have prevailed if the fight was longer - he would be the one with more Stamina left.
Yeah, cause u dont understand fencing lol. If u can tie ur opponent up scared defending their upper body, not only is hitting their leg a good idea, its stupid to try to hit them in the place they are preoccupied to defend
cool
я думаю раз это хема а не спортивное фехтование то нужно на соревнованиях намеренно запрещать прыжки на ногах и атаки стрелой так как они противоречат бою и уводят хема в обычное спортивное фехтование
The commentary is made by Skallagrim?
Same thought, any way to find out?
No ładnie ładnie
The commentator sounds like that skallgrim youtuber
Пятнашки
My critique of the young fencers, although they are very good, is they get excited, and that's how you get killed. Older fencers who have mastered the art remain calm. But very few will really master it at a young age, thus the sport is going to be different from the real thing. For a parallel, look at how Kayla Harrison fights. She's still young but she's a real master because she devoted her life to it and trained with the best. She stays calm throughout her bouts, even when going against full force striking. Never forget that when people did this for real, the matches would end after a single definitive strike, not always fatal, but often incapacitating. ("First blood" rules were designed to reduce fatalities but leave honor satisfied, b/c swords are dangerous.) That's the difference between the sport, where there are no consequences, and the real thing, where there are. I love this sport, but most seem to get the two things confused. Life or death struggle is quite a different thing from fencing safely with gear, and I only bring this up because there are so many beginners out there who vastly overestimate their capabilities, having no qualified teacher to disabuse them of those notions.
More fun to wacth than olympic saber
american commentator was a bit rude lol
I have liked Stanson's style more. Olbyrchski's style looks and feels much more like olympic fencing.
so, better
The Poles know what is what. They are the salvation of Europe.
Not a fan of that olympic fencing style jump attacks. He swings his saber like a flail and in a real duel he would pay with his life for a touch to his oponents leg.
I mean he literally would get less points if the guy hit his head. he just didnt
Looks so much better than gaylimpic fencing
pretty much the same style imo. most of the olbrichyski's thrusts were going for the contact rather than doing actual damage
Unlike the protracted sword fights we see in movies real sword fights must not have lasted long! A few seconds and someone is hit. What a bloody mess real sword fighting must have been.
Training whole life to get struck on the battlefield. These kind of things get in your head, even 2020 wasn't that bad in comparison!
this is no fencing
The Deluge was a bad thing for Poland though. That's why the Polish call it the deluge. You should have titled it Olbrychski's Jasna Góra or "By Fire & Sword."
1610 yers Kluszyno 2700 Polisch husars vs 35000 Rusian and Sweden Victory Poland. 1605 yers Kircholm 3000 Polisch and Lituanian husars vs 13000 Sweden Victory Poland.
И такое бывает.
Dude, seriously, noone cares. That's interesting piece of historical trivia, but it has nothing to do with modern fencing. Why bring this up? To humiliate Swedes? He's a sportsman and duelist who lost with dignity to a very skilled fighter, I'm sure people who actually duel with sabers respect eachother very much.
@@witoldendrju2458 let him have his moment, his country was snuffed out of existence 200 years ago.
@@MoorishBandit Yeah exactly, 200 years ago. Now it's a prosperous 1st world country in the middle of Europe, is there still need to brag about something that happened 400 years ago completely out of context?
I especially loved the little jedi-jump to tap the other guy with the sword shaped object... with absolutely 0 regard for his own survival... good god HEMA is going to crap. So thankful I stopped getting involved in competition when this sort of crap became acceptable.
Next up: electronic scoring...
maybe the other guy shouldve tried to defend himself
@@GlwaddynionForest like I said... "with absolutely 0 regard for his own survival". Most comps have bylaws/rules about reckless fencing, but I have yet to see them enforced; thereby leading to the laughable display of martial skill seen here. The moment I started noticing judges and organizers NOT calling people on reckless fencing was the moment I stopped competing.
@@wildrangeringreen this is fine lol. The doubles happen either from slight mistimes or misreads of intention. Those are just fencing errors. These blokes would wipe the floor with guys who consider themselves "martial" (and frankly the majority of martially obsessed fencers Ive met are just panicky stophitters reminiscent of beginner epeeists). Anything that isnt a double is by definition fine.
@@GlwaddynionForest stop hitting (particularly of the hands and arm) is sufficient in violent encounters... that's the difference between martial fencing and sport fencing. One's practicing to butcher another person, the other is meant to be a game that can help one get better at the former (and there's nothing wrong with that). There is a problem when one conflates the two.
Just like with firearms and darts, just because you've "killed him", doesn't mean he's dead yet. Reckless fencing ignores this and dispenses with self preservation in favor of overly aggressive action; usually in an attempt to meet the artificial conditions of success put in place by a ruleset (which has been drafted to facilitate a game).
@@wildrangeringreen stophits are a favourite in olympic fencing lol what are you on about. A pretty typical criticism of epee (though somewhat outdated) is it contains too many. My comment regarding stophits arent that they are bad, just that when done reactively without initiative they will almost always lead to doubles and are often late too.
I agree, training and the real thing are different. the thing with fencing is that the real thing cannot be replicated to the same degree as unarmed combat, and comeptition is still the best way to attempt it.
Olbrychskis grandfather - Daniel Olbrychski is an ACTOR with no fencing skills
Unfortunately Hema is going the same way as Olympic Fencing really sad.
Cause it works, there is no existing ruleset in real life that prevent those techniques.
The winner here is just using a mix of epee and sabre from olympic fencing
@@alessandrofattori6548 My solution would be the same as the solution the old Epee fencers gave. The Fencer who gets hit the least wins. This would shift the focus from hitting a higher value point target while taking a hit, to disabling your opponent without getting hit.
@@tarquiniussuperbus21 it changes nothing from now in epee, the one who has been hit less wins (or hits more it changes nothing)
The only thing it changes from epee in this fight is that they use sabres (so olympics fencer moves are implemented) and timing in which you can hit back your opponent is wider.
No idea why every hema guy hate sport fencing when they really have small differences.
@@alessandrofattori6548 You didn't understand my comment.
the hopping is annoying
playing tag with a fly swatter style, no finesse
1:51 LOL wow cringe SMH...
Sry..bullshit....there are no saber skills available here ... no real warrior would fight like this ... Both only looking for points
What did you expect