I've seen the real submarine in person on two or three occasions and it's impressive to see. Especially when you realize its feet would not be repeated until World War 1
0:22 Was the addition of Grampus from TUGS (an anthropomorphized version of the real USS Grampus) at that timestamp intentional, or just a coincidence because 1922 was the year USS Grampus was sunk as a target by the US Navy.
May I recommend the channel Oversimplified? A somewhat similar channel in it's content and presentation but about more general history like WW1, WW2, the Cold War, the Civil War, etc etc etc. He makes and narrates fun, educational, and hilarious animated videos, if you like this you'll dig Oversimplified
You can see the original H.L Hunley today at its museum with the same name in Charleston, SC. I’m from the state and I know about the submarine because I learned about it during my year of state history. It’s really incredible how quickly submarine technology improved between the American Civil War and WWI in such a short amount of time.
Very nice video! Really informative. But there's a tiny mistake at 3:34 CSS Pioneer never adopted a spar torpedo, she first utilized a system similar to that of Turtle with a screw and a charge, yet then adorned a torpedo which could be towed into an enemy vessel (which she used to sink 2 coal barges in tests) The spar torpedo wasn't adopted by Hunley's team until their 3rd model, which was called the "fish boat" or the "porpoise" until Horace Hunley's death upon which the boat was named Hunley in his honor, this was because they had a few mishaps with the towable torpedo drifting dangerously close to their sub when it surfaced. In short, the spar torpedo wasn't adopted by the Hunley team until 1864, and Pioneer was only used in 1862.
The reason why there are many conflicting reports about the H. L. Hunley has to do with the sporadic nature of the records themselves. Many of the records from the Confederacy were lost during the war or were hidden away, making it much harder to accurately determine what exactly went down. To give you an example of how some of these records ended up disappearing, well over 140 years *after* the war, when the Virginia State Capitol building was being renovated, they ended up removing some of the flooring and found a confederate records book for the year 1863 tucked away in the floorboards for later retrieval that never ended up happening. So, as a result of a lot of these records ending up destroyed or stashed away in someone’s wall or floorboard, the accounts we do have on certain programs is extremely limited. This also isn’t exclusive to the H. L. Hunley either. For example, The first ever railway gun to be used in combat only has brief mentions on both sides without any exact designs available for it. We don’t even know exactly what happened to the railway gun after it’s usage during the battle of Savage’s Station.
6:43 . The Confederate Navy was probably the smartest Confederate institution civilian or military. They never had faith in this, Hunley was a privateer and it was more the army’s pet project. Also Hunley was almost always rebuffed by confederate sailors when he was looking for volunteers. No one wanted to get anywhere near that metal death trap.
This is the best video on this subject I have seen so far. Well done. I have been following the story of the H.L. Hunley since it was rediscovered, but I learned a few new things from your video.
Hi, I enjoyed your video. FWIW Baxter Watson seems to be a complete mystery. I've researched Confederate submarines for a book I'm trying to write and there is almost no information about him. Your video helped as I had overestimated the length of one of the boats. Thanks for putting this together.
Good vid'. One theory I recall from a tv documentary wasthat small arms fire from the Hunley's victim pierced the forward conning tower, resulting in the Sub' flooding whilst heading for home. If true it would be an ironic fate; a bit like how HMS Invincible (1907) mortally damaged the German ship that sank her.
A little note on sources: A primary source is an original document. Immediate, first-hand accounts of a topic, from people directly connected to it. These can include: diaries, journals, first hand reports, original documents. Newspaper stories, by reporters who witnessed an event or who quote witnesses. Speeches, diaries, letters and interviews - what the people involved said or wrote. Photographs, video, or audio that capture an event. A secondary source is something like a book or article on a topic which is usually put together after the author reviews the primary sources. Many secondary sources, such as United States Navy institute's article, will cite the primary sources in the footnotes.
@Nautical Study No information I have ever learned is known to be a waste of time until I pass away. So when I know I am close to moving on I plan to make a list of the most useless things. Things I did. Things I learned. And people I wasted too much time on. I just think it will be something cool to leave the family...and maybe even useful in some way.
Some of the tactics and technology used in the American Civil War were way ahead of their time. The European militaries should have kept a closer eye on this conflict.
Back in 1971 I got suspended from Junior high School because of this topic. The little Nazi that was teaching world history. Seriously I still think this guy was a Nazi war criminal. He was trying to teach the class that Germany had developed the first submergables for naval warfare. I told him he was wrong. I told him it was the United States. He told me to shut up and sit down. I told him he was teaching the class wrong. It wasn't Germany, the Americans have done it in the revolutionary war then again in the war of 1812 with a submersible called the turtle and the turtle too they didn't sink anything but they were the first submersible for naval warfare that were somewhat successful or at least on record. He told me I was lying and I didn't know what I was talking about. He was the teacher I was the student and I need to shut up and sit down. All right then I asked him what about the HL Huntley? And he didn't even know what I was talking about. Then I said the CSS Huntley. The first submersible the sink it's Target? The war of Northern aggression? Confederate States Navy?And he still didn't know what I was talking about so I said give me a minute and left the class and ran down to the library to get the books that I needed to prove my point. The little Nazi had me kicked out of school. For leaving class and arguing with him. But I proved my point that I was right he was wrong. I had done a book report on submergables and submarines the year before.
You got a lot wrong the hunly sank 3 times, the pioneer did not have a spar torpedo but towed a torpedo under the ship it wanted to sink. The American diver only sank once and never killed any crew. The hunley had an 8 man crew not 9 man. all my reasharch is from reading manny books and articles on the Huntley and other submarines of the civil war and visiting the Huntley museum. The hunley was not sunk by the explosion of the torpedo, when I was at the museum the researchers said that what they thought happens was the men dove the sub to hide from union ships out looking for them and did not come up for air and ran out of air. This is in no means an attack at you or your channel I am just correcting some things you got wrong because I have a great interest in the hunley and have done a great deal of research.
My friend, I was born and raised in Tennessee. I understand that it was a different time, but that’s only functions as a good explanation, not a good excuse.
@My 7th account my friend, you are aware that Britain banned slavery in 1833, the Danish in 1846, the French in 1848, and the Dutch in 1861? Haiti abolished slavery as early as 1804. The concept of banning slavery was not new. In fact, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence had condemnations of slavery that were taken out for fear of offending rich southerners. There is a lot to consider in the civil war and I’m not saying the south saw slaves as equals but given that a good chunk of the “civilized” world had banned it, it wasn’t a radical concept.
@@NauticalStudy The North comprised with the South on the issue of slavery , the Northern valued their independence from Great Britain more than the slavery issue , both sides of the Mason Dixon Line bear equal guilt on the issue . Also yes the idea of freeing slaves in the US was radical , because it was the US . Britain and France could just free slaves, because slavery wasn’t in their county per say , it was in over seas colonies and the slave owners could be easily compensated , and they could find employment somewhere else . The US wasn’t this big over seas empire , in other words slavery was built into their society where as the British and French it was especially an add on .
Does an American need to be a "Confederate sympathizer" not to take glee in the horrible death of her crew, service persons in a conscripted American army? I find it slightly horrible your impulse is to dehumanize your countrymen, veterans, in this or any context. This is typical of prejudiced persons lacking authentic insight into the US Civil War. If you are so thrilled by mockery and debasement, perhaps you are the ones whose sympathies need examination.
My friend, I was born and raised in Tennessee, surrounded by southern culture. I think it's counterintuitive and hypocritical for anyone to advocate "legalize humor" and "take a joke" and then react so negatively in the phase of minor remarks. If you found it offensive, I apologize, but recognize this kind of humor has always been around and that's not about to change.
I like your videos very much, but history is history and there are too many smug comments about the Confederates. This detracts from otherwise excellent work and is unnecessary. Before anyone attacks me, I'm an Aussie. I just don't like good work undermined unnecessarily. Otherwise you'll end up being one of those "UK Meme Ships Part 5" types.
"how can I use this to harm other people" will be my family motto
I've seen the real submarine in person on two or three occasions and it's impressive to see. Especially when you realize its feet would not be repeated until World War 1
I'm surprised that you didn't mention the most recent recovery of the H.L. Hunley.
it looks like something Team Rocket would built LOL
😂😂😂😂
team crockett
0:22 Was the addition of Grampus from TUGS (an anthropomorphized version of the real USS Grampus) at that timestamp intentional, or just a coincidence because 1922 was the year USS Grampus was sunk as a target by the US Navy.
I wonder if he knows about TUGS.
And if he does,would he do a video on it?
@@rtxproductions4174 maybe some day!
You have the most interesting, educational and entertaining videos anywhere, sir! Very, very well done again! Thank-you for your work and research.
May I recommend the channel Oversimplified? A somewhat similar channel in it's content and presentation but about more general history like WW1, WW2, the Cold War, the Civil War, etc etc etc. He makes and narrates fun, educational, and hilarious animated videos, if you like this you'll dig Oversimplified
I would also recommend Mark Felton Productions if you're into 20th century history.
You can see the original H.L Hunley today at its museum with the same name in Charleston, SC. I’m from the state and I know about the submarine because I learned about it during my year of state history. It’s really incredible how quickly submarine technology improved between the American Civil War and WWI in such a short amount of time.
Very nice video! Really informative. But there's a tiny mistake at 3:34
CSS Pioneer never adopted a spar torpedo, she first utilized a system similar to that of Turtle with a screw and a charge, yet then adorned a torpedo which could be towed into an enemy vessel (which she used to sink 2 coal barges in tests)
The spar torpedo wasn't adopted by Hunley's team until their 3rd model, which was called the "fish boat" or the "porpoise" until Horace Hunley's death upon which the boat was named Hunley in his honor, this was because they had a few mishaps with the towable torpedo drifting dangerously close to their sub when it surfaced. In short, the spar torpedo wasn't adopted by the Hunley team until 1864, and Pioneer was only used in 1862.
The reason why there are many conflicting reports about the H. L. Hunley has to do with the sporadic nature of the records themselves. Many of the records from the Confederacy were lost during the war or were hidden away, making it much harder to accurately determine what exactly went down.
To give you an example of how some of these records ended up disappearing, well over 140 years *after* the war, when the Virginia State Capitol building was being renovated, they ended up removing some of the flooring and found a confederate records book for the year 1863 tucked away in the floorboards for later retrieval that never ended up happening.
So, as a result of a lot of these records ending up destroyed or stashed away in someone’s wall or floorboard, the accounts we do have on certain programs is extremely limited.
This also isn’t exclusive to the H. L. Hunley either. For example, The first ever railway gun to be used in combat only has brief mentions on both sides without any exact designs available for it. We don’t even know exactly what happened to the railway gun after it’s usage during the battle of Savage’s Station.
6:43 . The Confederate Navy was probably the smartest Confederate institution civilian or military. They never had faith in this, Hunley was a privateer and it was more the army’s pet project. Also Hunley was almost always rebuffed by confederate sailors when he was looking for volunteers. No one wanted to get anywhere near that metal death trap.
This is the best video on this subject I have seen so far. Well done. I have been following the story of the H.L. Hunley since it was rediscovered, but I learned a few new things from your video.
"thank you for wasting the last 9 minutes of your life with me" sounds like a rather ominous threat.
Hi, I enjoyed your video. FWIW Baxter Watson seems to be a complete mystery. I've researched Confederate submarines for a book I'm trying to write and there is almost no information about him. Your video helped as I had overestimated the length of one of the boats. Thanks for putting this together.
This was a really interesting topic, thank you for sharing this story!
I love your style. Keep up the awesome vids. You’re the man.
0:30 why is the boy naked????
What is the piece of music used in the first half of this video?
Good vid. You are correct that Wikipedia is intellectually challenged.
Good vid'.
One theory I recall from a tv documentary wasthat small arms fire from the Hunley's victim pierced the forward conning tower, resulting in the Sub' flooding whilst heading for home.
If true it would be an ironic fate; a bit like how HMS Invincible (1907) mortally damaged the German ship that sank her.
Interesting that Clive Cussler were involved in her find and raise... rise again.
very nice channel have been binging
Omg, About 2 weeks ago you had 20 subs and now 173!
Another week and it’s 773
Omg
@@cdostudio5079 1.13K subscribers as of 6/14/21
OMG
@@cdostudio5079 over 13k now
Could cover the thrasher or the scorpion or k19
Valse Septembre, right?
Not many boats can claim to have sunk 6 times
A little note on sources:
A primary source is an original document. Immediate, first-hand accounts of a topic, from people directly connected to it.
These can include: diaries, journals, first hand reports, original documents.
Newspaper stories, by reporters who witnessed an event or who quote witnesses.
Speeches, diaries, letters and interviews - what the people involved said or wrote.
Photographs, video, or audio that capture an event.
A secondary source is something like a book or article on a topic which is usually put together after the author reviews the primary sources. Many secondary sources, such as United States Navy institute's article, will cite the primary sources in the footnotes.
I'd say that a Newspaper or Journal can count as a secondary source instead of primary, but otherwise agree.
Brilliant Video, very well researched
@Nautical Study No information I have ever learned is known to be a waste of time until I pass away. So when I know I am close to moving on I plan to make a list of the most useless things. Things I did. Things I learned. And people I wasted too much time on. I just think it will be something cool to leave the family...and maybe even useful in some way.
Some of the tactics and technology used in the American Civil War were way ahead of their time. The European militaries should have kept a closer eye on this conflict.
Germany did. It is British who didn't take submarine seriously and paid the price
The Lusitania was a more important ship than the Titanic.
I believe they did find it
Clive Clussler found the Hunley.
The Confederate Navy had a ship pilot named Moses Dallas. He was a black man. Google it all.
Back in 1971 I got suspended from Junior high School because of this topic. The little Nazi that was teaching world history. Seriously I still think this guy was a Nazi war criminal. He was trying to teach the class that Germany had developed the first submergables for naval warfare. I told him he was wrong. I told him it was the United States. He told me to shut up and sit down. I told him he was teaching the class wrong. It wasn't Germany, the Americans have done it in the revolutionary war then again in the war of 1812 with a submersible called the turtle and the turtle too they didn't sink anything but they were the first submersible for naval warfare that were somewhat successful or at least on record. He told me I was lying and I didn't know what I was talking about. He was the teacher I was the student and I need to shut up and sit down. All right then I asked him what about the HL Huntley? And he didn't even know what I was talking about. Then I said the CSS Huntley. The first submersible the sink it's Target? The war of Northern aggression? Confederate States Navy?And he still didn't know what I was talking about so I said give me a minute and left the class and ran down to the library to get the books that I needed to prove my point. The little Nazi had me kicked out of school. For leaving class and arguing with him. But I proved my point that I was right he was wrong. I had done a book report on submergables and submarines the year before.
Steam Punk gone awry?
how did they raise the sub in the mid 1800s?
They pumped all the water out and made it resurface
Get this, since they had steam engines, they made steam cranes, then, they put them on barges, and used it for salvage operations!
You got a lot wrong the hunly sank 3 times, the pioneer did not have a spar torpedo but towed a torpedo under the ship it wanted to sink. The American diver only sank once and never killed any crew. The hunley had an 8 man crew not 9 man. all my reasharch is from reading manny books and articles on the Huntley and other submarines of the civil war and visiting the Huntley museum. The hunley was not sunk by the explosion of the torpedo, when I was at the museum the researchers said that what they thought happens was the men dove the sub to hide from union ships out looking for them and did not come up for air and ran out of air. This is in no means an attack at you or your channel I am just correcting some things you got wrong because I have a great interest in the hunley and have done a great deal of research.
Too many snive remarks on the south, history is history and that was a different time and mindset
My friend, I was born and raised in Tennessee. I understand that it was a different time, but that’s only functions as a good explanation, not a good excuse.
@@NauticalStudy Forest 2024
@My 7th account my friend, you are aware that Britain banned slavery in 1833, the Danish in 1846, the French in 1848, and the Dutch in 1861? Haiti abolished slavery as early as 1804. The concept of banning slavery was not new. In fact, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence had condemnations of slavery that were taken out for fear of offending rich southerners. There is a lot to consider in the civil war and I’m not saying the south saw slaves as equals but given that a good chunk of the “civilized” world had banned it, it wasn’t a radical concept.
Northerners had slaves, too.
@@NauticalStudy The North comprised with the South on the issue of slavery , the Northern valued their independence from Great Britain more than the slavery issue , both sides of the Mason Dixon Line bear equal guilt on the issue . Also yes the idea of freeing slaves in the US was radical , because it was the US . Britain and France could just free slaves, because slavery wasn’t in their county per say , it was in over seas colonies and the slave owners could be easily compensated , and they could find employment somewhere else . The US wasn’t this big over seas empire , in other words slavery was built into their society where as the British and French it was especially an add on .
God bless the Confederacy
Does an American need to be a "Confederate sympathizer" not to take glee in the horrible death of her crew, service persons in a conscripted American army? I find it slightly horrible your impulse is to dehumanize your countrymen, veterans, in this or any context. This is typical of prejudiced persons lacking authentic insight into the US Civil War. If you are so thrilled by mockery and debasement, perhaps you are the ones whose sympathies need examination.
My friend, I was born and raised in Tennessee, surrounded by southern culture. I think it's counterintuitive and hypocritical for anyone to advocate "legalize humor" and "take a joke" and then react so negatively in the phase of minor remarks. If you found it offensive, I apologize, but recognize this kind of humor has always been around and that's not about to change.
Jesus you had to have thrown this paragraph into a thesaurus word converter because holy shit there is a lot of unneeded words. Take a joke man
I like your videos very much, but history is history and there are too many smug comments about the Confederates. This detracts from otherwise excellent work and is unnecessary. Before anyone attacks me, I'm an Aussie. I just don't like good work undermined unnecessarily. Otherwise you'll end up being one of those "UK Meme Ships Part 5" types.
He's from the south, so he can, infact, make jokes about the Confederates-