Hello John just a heads up, I may be wrong but. The way I was shown to set up a boat trailer correctly was to get the nose load correct first. Every trailer is different but it will have an optimum nose load for stability at speed etc you have to move winch post forward and literally weight the nose of the trailer with like bathroom scales the nose load would potentially be in the 80kg range maybe more maybe less. once that's right you then adjust the rollers to suit and also adjust the rollers as low as physically possible to lower the center of gravity. With the nose load correct and a low center of gravity it will tow absolutely amazing. Now I'm possibly wrong but that is the way I was shown a taught years ago and its the way I set my boat trailers up and it seems to work perfectly the boat sits low and level etc and you need less water to launch too so a bonus. Again I might be wrong but the boat looks to far back and your nose load will be too light causing it to want to sway left to right at speed Good video tho I enjoyed it thanks for posting
Hi John, interesting video. When my 23 foot sailing boat broke the back of its trailer in Grove place slipway in Falmouth due to corrosion I was in a big mess. Fortunately I was given the details of Lizard trailers on the Water - me -Trout industrial estate in Helston. He made a temporary repair to my trailer in order to get the boat off the slip and then built me a new trailer that was set up specifically to my boat. As I wasmt using the boat over winter, he stored the boat in his yard FOC & I paid £1500 in 2014 for a brand spanking new trailer that I didn't have to make any adjustments to. That included a spare wheel & post on the trailer. Might be of interest to you in the future.
Thanks for bringing us along John, that information will really come in handy to anyone with a boat and trailer, I will certainly be using it in the future for when I buy a boat.
Phil at Warrior Boats will guide you on the best set up for your SBS. Warrior Boats used to supply SBS trailers with new builds. Keep a close eye on the L brackets holding your mudguards on. They have a tendency to crack, even on a brand new SBS trailer.. The 175 used to be supplied on the SBS1800 by Warrior Boats.
Hi John them SBS trailer s are so well built it's a long time ago since I bought one they are so well galvanised but never drill into them. I put my spare wheel forward of the front roller I had a plate made galvanised and put 2 U bolts under the frame and through the plate and bolted the wheel to the plate it worked great and I never forgot the spare 😂 enjoy love your videos take care.
I would've flipped over the rollers on the winch so that the shorter one was at the top. I replaced my Indespension trailer for an identical 15 year newer one and it took a fir bit of adjustment to get the rib sitting right. Also I always remove the light board holders at the back out of the trailer rails when I'm launching in case when you've got a big swell the boat doesn't get slammed into them. Lovely trailer.
Hello again John. I.e nose weight, I just looked back through my book, it's been a long time since I set a trailer up. I got my trailer nose weight by getting the laden weight with everything on the boat i.e gear and fuel and minus 6% you will probably find it's around 60-80kg ISH if you get that set right then adjust your rollers to suit the position of the boat it should sit lower on the trailer and a lot further forward than it does now and your stability will be 💯 perfect and a low center of gravity. It will be a dream to.tow it Please please double check what I'm saying do some research for your personal set up but now I starting talking about it and checked my book it's definitely right the nose load needs setting first. The way it's set now you light find it's very bouncy on the back of the van and no very stable with wanting to sway. Sorry of I have gone on to much I just want to help. Thanks Dave
I have no idea what you where talking about But after watching and listening to your evere so informative description, I know feel confident to go out and buy a boat n trailer...But really, always enjoy your videos, so much information bevit foraging, potting or tailoring, hope family all well, keep up the nice work...Thankyou
I sympathies with you John, I had to do exactly the same to mine what a nightmare. Adjust a little bit here throws out a lot over there. I bet you wish you had a little more length on that front winch column. I even had to adjust the axles as I had too much weight on the tow bar. Great topic though and well done
Cracking looking trailer John,patience was definitely a virtue there. But a job worth doing 💪. Scotland and wherever else you’ve got in mind look out 🎣🐟🦈
Very informative video john I'm down my boat tomorrow checking all these things out on the boat and trailer we got 50mph winds so if wrong will have to wait ✋️
SBS trailers from Wolverhampton. I used their 3 1/2 ton twin axle trailer to mount the front cockpit section of my Luftwaffe F4F 37+86. towed very well.
I am not a boat owner, but I still found that interesting. As I'm sure many boat owners will do.🧑🎓 If it makes others check and adjust their trailers to fit better, then the jobs a goodun.👏 Thanks, take care and stay safe.😷🙊
Hi John another great video, couple of things I would like to add to further assist your viewers .... I always move the axle to suit in order to get the balance and nose weight correct. Nose weight is really critical and really affects towing stability and the pressure on your vehicle's rear suspension. Also the trailer rear arms sticking out passed the rear swinging arm can cause issues in a swell or when beach retrieving, as your boat can hit them and they are quite sharp... hope these extra tips help
Excellent Video that will give people confidence to set up their own new trailer. You must have been up very early to get so much slipway time at your harbour. I was down there in September last year and it was manic.
Interesting video, I’ve just recently purchased a larger sib only 4m however it sits on a trailer I’ve not got a lot of experience launching with a trailer it’s kinda knocked my confidence a bit but I’m getting the hang of it 👍
Oh and that safety chain should be standard on every trailer. DO NOT RELY ON WINCH STRAP!!!! To hold the boat on the trailer specially on a steep slipway.
My winch strap under 2yrs old broke like you said, that belt is £9! So your spot on why risk £000,s I put a chain the chain stays on till the water is on the tyres. But if it is now standard on SBS it is a recent upgrade and was not when I bought an sbs in 2018. I fed back to Andrew and Lucy at SBS how in the US a chain is a legal requirement. At that point it was still up to owners to know to add a chain as safety back up. Cannot recommend that enough. Cheers
You know what's funny about that boat? I'm sure its a crazy awesome boat that you bought for very awesome and specific reasons for the ocean but to an american that boat looks like a toy, lol. Its just the way it looks. Its like our toys as kids were modeled after those boats and now we have all kinds of different boats. I live on one of the biggest freshwater lakes in the world which is essentially a big sea and I would love to have a boat like that! You know maybe you should come visit me and we could do some deep sea fishing in my lake for giant lake trout and salmon and steel head??
The strap is wound on back to front, you should be winding forward to bring it in. To make adjustmentd to my trailer we put the boat on the lawn. Thanks for your videos
Nice watch, quick tip I have knocked out the black caps on the roller bars. Unfortunately on my sbs they held water and rusted inside out. Replacements on and draining well.
Another great vid, thank you. Do you store your boat inside or outside? a vid on the pros and cons of different types of storage and how to prepare the boat for winter would be really helpful...!
I am about to do the same with a larger 21' boat and a larger SBS trailer. Being the same brand the setup of my trailer is almost identical but I agree with @C3BFA that not enough attention was placed on setting up the nose weight. If only driving local it's not such a big deal but in my case the first journey is over 200 miles, mostly motorway work. Here I expect to drive at 60mph max so stability is key. Mine is a 4 wheel trailer so it's less prone to swing but still it's worth getting it right.
rear swing beam is better set flush with the transom Dont for get the measure the nose weight need about 80 /100 KG s on the two hitch more is better than less
Hi again John.. Would you recommend any of the warrior boats... Just I can't see anything for sale up here in cumbria.. We are coming down to Torquay for a holiday in early June.. Not to far from you.. Well an hour or so can't wait.
Hi John, I know nothing about boats but love your vids. Just a thought but if you lowered both sets of guide wheels to the lowest holes on the back and brought the boat forward a little further then it would probably then touch the front hull wheel right? Also if the boat is sitting lower then would make it more stable when towing? Again no expert so learning by asking…
Lad .Should you block the vehicle wheels while out of the car while fidfling with the boat .Never pulled a boat or towed one. Regards from Alberta .Have a great day
Morning John - so do you trailer your boat in & out each time? Your hull looks spotless! Didn't you anti-foul your previous vessel? (I still have that thankless task to do for this season...) Cheers
I don’t like roller trailers for fibreglass boats, they don’t distribute the weight well enough and the boat bouncing up and down on the road can crack the hull. I’d be keeping an eye on that.
It certainly looks a good trailer, however. That light unit on the frame side at the back is surely very vulnerable to getting wet when launching if there any waves. Also I don't like the way that the winch handle flies round when you let the boat back, it could be dangerous, doesn't it come off? I really like the sand wheel and safety chain, don't ever be tempted drill holes in it when you mount a spare wheel. A lot of useful knowledge passed on as always.
How was the nose weight? When I got a new trailer for my Orkney 440 I had to move the axle forward 14 inches, just to get it so I could lift the front.
Hiya John 😊question how long do you leave your boat at the mooring, as we left ours for to long,and ended up having the devil of a job cleaning bottom it took hours 😢
Glass boat use's centre roller and side slides .not rollers . All the weights not spread evenly across the hull You will cause cracks in the glass . I would go on you tube watch trailer videos for glass boats , anyway g'day from downunder
What was wrong with the trailer you got with the boat, was there something physically wrong with it that meant that the boat was in danger of being damaged ?????
@@gusholliday8198 great be clueless too. Me, 50 years boating experience, 30 of the, as a commercial beam trawler skipper. Locker has relatively little experience, but gives the impression that he has a lot more. A charlatan, in other words
Love your work mate, if you ever find yourself in South Co Dublin and fancy a bit of off shore fishing I have the use of a hand built klinker that's at your disposal any time. Just message me on UA-cam and it's yours. Keep up the good work 💪
Well that was totally unexpected, really interesting to watch, enjoyed that John, thanks for posting that
Super interesting... All sorts of things I wouldn't of thought but all made sense by the end!
H from Bulgaria 🇧🇬.I am very happy for you 🎉
Hello John just a heads up, I may be wrong but. The way I was shown to set up a boat trailer correctly was to get the nose load correct first. Every trailer is different but it will have an optimum nose load for stability at speed etc you have to move winch post forward and literally weight the nose of the trailer with like bathroom scales the nose load would potentially be in the 80kg range maybe more maybe less. once that's right you then adjust the rollers to suit and also adjust the rollers as low as physically possible to lower the center of gravity. With the nose load correct and a low center of gravity it will tow absolutely amazing.
Now I'm possibly wrong but that is the way I was shown a taught years ago and its the way I set my boat trailers up and it seems to work perfectly the boat sits low and level etc and you need less water to launch too so a bonus.
Again I might be wrong but the boat looks to far back and your nose load will be too light causing it to want to sway left to right at speed
Good video tho I enjoyed it thanks for posting
No, you’re not wrong! You are, in fact, 100 percent correct.
@@officialWWM ye done more since this comment and yes it is right like your saying wwm
Well done John
Nice set up that.
Hi John, interesting video. When my 23 foot sailing boat broke the back of its trailer in Grove place slipway in Falmouth due to corrosion I was in a big mess. Fortunately I was given the details of Lizard trailers on the Water - me -Trout industrial estate in Helston. He made a temporary repair to my trailer in order to get the boat off the slip and then built me a new trailer that was set up specifically to my boat. As I wasmt using the boat over winter, he stored the boat in his yard FOC & I paid £1500 in 2014 for a brand spanking new trailer that I didn't have to make any adjustments to. That included a spare wheel & post on the trailer. Might be of interest to you in the future.
Always something worth learning.
Thanks for journey john , it's these little adjustments that if overlooked could be very expensive 👍
Thanks for bringing us along John, that information will really come in handy to anyone with a boat and trailer, I will certainly be using it in the future for when I buy a boat.
Phil at Warrior Boats will guide you on the best set up for your SBS. Warrior Boats used to supply SBS trailers with new builds. Keep a close eye on the L brackets holding your mudguards on. They have a tendency to crack, even on a brand new SBS trailer.. The 175 used to be supplied on the SBS1800 by Warrior Boats.
Hi John them SBS trailer s are so well built it's a long time ago since I bought one they are so well galvanised but never drill into them. I put my spare wheel forward of the front roller I had a plate made galvanised and put 2 U bolts under the frame and through the plate and bolted the wheel to the plate it worked great and I never forgot the spare 😂 enjoy love your videos take care.
Informative, thought u said "sun wheel" , that's on me Ha!
I would've flipped over the rollers on the winch so that the shorter one was at the top. I replaced my Indespension trailer for an identical 15 year newer one and it took a fir bit of adjustment to get the rib sitting right. Also I always remove the light board holders at the back out of the trailer rails when I'm launching in case when you've got a big swell the boat doesn't get slammed into them. Lovely trailer.
Hoping you are all safe and sound.
As always.Love the journey. Thanks
Thanks for sharing mate, very interesting !
Hello again John.
I.e nose weight, I just looked back through my book, it's been a long time since I set a trailer up. I got my trailer nose weight by getting the laden weight with everything on the boat i.e gear and fuel and minus 6% you will probably find it's around 60-80kg ISH if you get that set right then adjust your rollers to suit the position of the boat it should sit lower on the trailer and a lot further forward than it does now and your stability will be 💯 perfect and a low center of gravity. It will be a dream to.tow it
Please please double check what I'm saying do some research for your personal set up but now I starting talking about it and checked my book it's definitely right the nose load needs setting first.
The way it's set now you light find it's very bouncy on the back of the van and no very stable with wanting to sway. Sorry of I have gone on to much I just want to help.
Thanks Dave
Brilliant video John different from the norm but great for all old and newbie boat owners to see how adding a new trailer to your boat...
Making mistakes is part of the joy of learning
Nicely done John, your boat looks really well and stable on your new trailer.
Thank you for sharing. 👍👍
I have no idea what you where talking about But after watching and listening to your evere so informative description, I know feel confident to go out and buy a boat n trailer...But really, always enjoy your videos, so much information bevit foraging, potting or tailoring, hope family all well, keep up the nice work...Thankyou
Good to see all the equipment needed away from the videos. Good equipment is always best
I sympathies with you John, I had to do exactly the same to mine what a nightmare. Adjust a little bit here throws out a lot over there. I bet you wish you had a little more length on that front winch column. I even had to adjust the axles as I had too much weight on the tow bar. Great topic though and well done
Great vid John,can you do a video on reversing with a trailer? cheers mate.!!
This video is just in time for me, my rig is far too nose heavy so thanks for doing this.
Very informative
well explained john top man
Might have a look at knocking a similar sand wheel up that holds the spare wheel for ours👍
Awesome video.
I dig it 😎👍🏻
Nice
Cracking looking trailer John,patience was definitely a virtue there. But a job worth doing 💪. Scotland and wherever else you’ve got in mind look out 🎣🐟🦈
Nice video john
big technology bro🍀😉👍
Very informative video john I'm down my boat tomorrow checking all these things out on the boat and trailer we got 50mph winds so if wrong will have to wait ✋️
SBS trailers from Wolverhampton. I used their 3 1/2 ton twin axle trailer to mount the front cockpit section of my Luftwaffe F4F 37+86. towed very well.
Special Boat Service 👀
I am not a boat owner, but I still found that interesting. As I'm sure many boat owners will do.🧑🎓
If it makes others check and adjust their trailers to fit better, then the jobs a goodun.👏
Thanks, take care and stay safe.😷🙊
Hi John another great video, couple of things I would like to add to further assist your viewers .... I always move the axle to suit in order to get the balance and nose weight correct. Nose weight is really critical and really affects towing stability and the pressure on your vehicle's rear suspension. Also the trailer rear arms sticking out passed the rear swinging arm can cause issues in a swell or when beach retrieving, as your boat can hit them and they are quite sharp... hope these extra tips help
Excellent Video that will give people confidence to set up their own new trailer. You must have been up very early to get so much slipway time at your harbour. I was down there in September last year and it was manic.
Interesting video, I’ve just recently purchased a larger sib only 4m however it sits on a trailer I’ve not got a lot of experience launching with a trailer it’s kinda knocked my confidence a bit but I’m getting the hang of it 👍
Very interesting..is there any parts on the old trailer you could use.might save a few quid.
Hi, I used a set of bathroom scales to get the nose weight right. I had boat stands so was able to do all my adjustments in my driveway..
Oh and that safety chain should be standard on every trailer. DO NOT RELY ON WINCH STRAP!!!! To hold the boat on the trailer specially on a steep slipway.
How often to you stuff on trailers or small flatbeds with one strap?, I saw two yesterday, not good.
My winch strap under 2yrs old broke like you said, that belt is £9! So your spot on why risk £000,s I put a chain the chain stays on till the water is on the tyres. But if it is now standard on SBS it is a recent upgrade and was not when I bought an sbs in 2018. I fed back to Andrew and Lucy at SBS how in the US a chain is a legal requirement. At that point it was still up to owners to know to add a chain as safety back up. Cannot recommend that enough. Cheers
Not a fish anywhere, but I still enjoyed it..
You know what's funny about that boat? I'm sure its a crazy awesome boat that you bought for very awesome and specific reasons for the ocean but to an american that boat looks like a toy, lol. Its just the way it looks. Its like our toys as kids were modeled after those boats and now we have all kinds of different boats. I live on one of the biggest freshwater lakes in the world which is essentially a big sea and I would love to have a boat like that! You know maybe you should come visit me and we could do some deep sea fishing in my lake for giant lake trout and salmon and steel head??
Totally agree, but a damn cool "toy" !!
The strap is wound on back to front, you should be winding forward to bring it in. To make adjustmentd to my trailer we put the boat on the lawn. Thanks for your videos
Nice watch, quick tip I have knocked out the black caps on the roller bars. Unfortunately on my sbs they held water and rusted inside out. Replacements on and draining well.
Another great vid, thank you. Do you store your boat inside or outside? a vid on the pros and cons of different types of storage and how to prepare the boat for winter would be really helpful...!
I am about to do the same with a larger 21' boat and a larger SBS trailer. Being the same brand the setup of my trailer is almost identical but I agree with @C3BFA that not enough attention was placed on setting up the nose weight. If only driving local it's not such a big deal but in my case the first journey is over 200 miles, mostly motorway work. Here I expect to drive at 60mph max so stability is key. Mine is a 4 wheel trailer so it's less prone to swing but still it's worth getting it right.
Do you have to install running lights on the trailer ?
I didnt notice any ..
rear swing beam is better set flush with the transom Dont for get the measure the nose weight need about 80 /100 KG s on the two hitch more is better than less
Hi again John.. Would you recommend any of the warrior boats... Just I can't see anything for sale up here in cumbria.. We are coming down to Torquay for a holiday in early June.. Not to far from you.. Well an hour or so can't wait.
Hi John, I know nothing about boats but love your vids. Just a thought but if you lowered both sets of guide wheels to the lowest holes on the back and brought the boat forward a little further then it would probably then touch the front hull wheel right? Also if the boat is sitting lower then would make it more stable when towing? Again no expert so learning by asking…
Lad .Should you block the vehicle wheels while out of the car while fidfling with the boat .Never pulled a boat or towed one. Regards from Alberta .Have a great day
Morning John - so do you trailer your boat in & out each time? Your hull looks spotless! Didn't you anti-foul your previous vessel? (I still have that thankless task to do for this season...) Cheers
I don’t like roller trailers for fibreglass boats, they don’t distribute the weight well enough and the boat bouncing up and down on the road can crack the hull. I’d be keeping an eye on that.
Very nice boat that, what is it?
Hello, where did you get your sand wheel from and how did you fit it ?
It certainly looks a good trailer, however. That light unit on the frame side at the back is surely very vulnerable to getting wet when launching if there any waves. Also I don't like the way that the winch handle flies round when you let the boat back, it could be dangerous, doesn't it come off? I really like the sand wheel and safety chain, don't ever be tempted drill holes in it when you mount a spare wheel. A lot of useful knowledge passed on as always.
How was the nose weight? When I got a new trailer for my Orkney 440 I had to move the axle forward 14 inches, just to get it so I could lift the front.
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the motor vehicle must use a shift '' N '' as neutral with a trailer boat while slow down ramp to the water...
dont use a shift '' R '' as reverse
Hiya John 😊question how long do you leave your boat at the mooring, as we left ours for to long,and ended up having the devil of a job cleaning bottom it took hours 😢
A larger boat would fit much better to the trailer - even the wife should be able to see that😂
Absolutely 🤣
Glass boat use's centre roller and side slides .not rollers . All the weights not spread evenly across the hull
You will cause cracks in the glass . I would go on you tube watch trailer videos for glass boats , anyway g'day from downunder
I was wrong there can use rollers😊my bad
So by having the bigger end of the trailers for the smaller size of the boat.......🤔 Sound to me like you will soon be looking for a bigger boat 🤣🤣🤣
Still can't get the 1st comment in.
What was wrong with the trailer you got with the boat, was there something physically wrong with it that meant that the boat was in danger of being damaged ?????
You can tell this guy is new to boat management. He is clueless
bit harsh, Johns a mine of information that 1000's of people including myself have benefited from, carry on john, don't let these jerks put you off!
@@gusholliday8198 great be clueless too. Me, 50 years boating experience, 30 of the, as a commercial beam trawler skipper. Locker has relatively little experience, but gives the impression that he has a lot more. A charlatan, in other words
Sbs isn't that special boat services aka marine sas
Love your work mate, if you ever find yourself in South Co Dublin and fancy a bit of off shore fishing I have the use of a hand built klinker that's at your disposal any time.
Just message me on UA-cam and it's yours.
Keep up the good work 💪