Thank you for taking the time to make this comparison video! It feels so nice to see women representing! I just bought the Hoyt Eclipse and I can’t wait to start hunting with it! I chose the Eclipse because it was one of your 2 top choices and Podium Archer’s top choice. It was very interesting because he ranked Eva Shockey bow last place since it was slower, had more vibration, weighed the heaviest, and had a bumpier draw cycle. He ranked the Prima second because it tended to fall on its side (balance) whenever he drew the bow and because it had less forgiveness. FYI: If you have blue strings, consider swapping them out and stealth stripping the logo because deer see blue more intensely than we can perceive it.
Thank you! That means a lot! I love that everyone has differing opinions:). I hope you are loving the eclipse! So true, deer can see blue. I’m not a hunter so I haven’t stressed about it but such great advice!
Thanks so much and for all your videos. It is hard for us in Australia to try out all these bows, especially with supply being limited by covid. My wife is quite new to archery but after your excellent review has decided to get the Eva Shockey. Good to know that you rate all 3 so highly.
Oh thank you! I appreciate that so much! I’ve heard it’s hard to get your hands on things down there... it’s not much easier here right now either. Let me know how she likes it. I really love mine.
Excellent review . Very well done ! I am an aging bow hunter (40-45# max .) and looking for a forgiving easy tunable bow . I will look into the Bowtech .
Great video, your audio has really improved with your last few drops. My wife is going to buy one of these bows soon. Your reviews have been very helpful.
Thank you! we found out that it was an issue with recording with my phone. I was taking multiple takes and and the volume would vary wildly. Now I just do it in one take and edit like crazy haha. I’m so excited for your wife! I’m so glad that this has been of Some value. Let me know what she decides😊.
Though your comments were subjective, I appreciate your words about tune-ability, forgiveness, grip feel and the draw feel... I have one of the earliest Mathews women's bows and have had great luck... but now I'm going to make a trip to look at the Bowtech while I have been looking at the Prima. Short guy.
Hi! Really good review. I’m currently looking for a new bow for my daughter. I had not heard about the Eva Shockey Gen 2 until seeing your video and am now considering it. To be honest I’ve only owned Matthews so I’m totally biased. My daughter has been shooting for several years and is now going into middle school next year. So she’s only 11 but she’s outgrowing her Diamond Prism and is no longer a beginner. She needs something “next level”. I just don’t want to put her into something that’s too much for her to handle either… so I’ve been trying to find the right bow for her. She did test a Carbon Rose about a month back and seemed to handle it fairly well.
I know this is an older video, but I am brand new to archery and I am left handed so trying bows is difficult. I was in a toss up between the Hoyt and Mathews and just holding the Mathews to me it felt top heavy, so to hear you say that made me feel better. In the end I decided to go with the Hoyt! Thank you for making this.
Thanks for posting this video. I am looking for a new bow and trying to learn about bows and what will work the best for me. I never got to choose my first bow and had no say. Been shooting the same bow for 12 years. A big problem I am finding is the stores in my area are out of stock. They have nothing but 60, 70lb bows for men.
Hi! It’s so hard and frustrating that no one will stock bows in lower draw weights. That is something I’m working hard to change. The pandemic has also hit manufacturers pretty hard making it very hard to get your hands on anything. I’m so excited you are getting to upgrade! If you have any questions at all, I’m happy to help:). Thank you for you kind response!
The Gen one and Gen two are completely different. I personally didn’t like the Gen one. It was too light and wouldn’t settle well on the target for me. I also really disliked the grip- it felt like holding a 2x4 (they redesigned the Gen 2 to be slimmer. It’s not the most comfortable grip out there but I honestly shot more consistently with it) the Gen two is also significantly heavier (aluminum vs the carbon Gen 1) and the weight created a perfect balance. I feel like the gen2 and the prima have a similar feel. The prima is definitely a little more top heavy and weighted differently but I would say the Gen 2 is far more comparable to the prima than the gen1
Hey FYI the speed of the Prima will make up the slight difference in forgiveness with the 5.5” brace height as compared to the other bows. Where is comes into play more is with longer draw lengths because the power stroke will be effected more.
That’s a great point:). I still feel like you get more forgiveness with a longer brace height when shooting nearly the same speeds at the same draw lengths. I definitely think that the effect is greater at greater draw lengths, that’s why I said the difference is very slight but still worth mentioning 😊. I really appreciate the feedback.
I’m sorry I just saw this. Never a stupid question! It really depends. Personal frame size is an important consideration as well as what type of archery she is wanting to shoot. A longer Axel to Axel will give more stability but might be heavier, changes string angle, or be more difficult if you are going to be hiking around with it
I too am left handed and bought both the Bowtech Gen 2 and the Prima. The biggest difference is the draw. I have the BT Gen 2 in comfort mode and intend to flip it to the performance mod. to compare but the Prima is a steady hard pull throughout with barely a drop into a very short valley. The BT gen 2 starts out easy and there is a hump at the back of the pull and it dumps into a big valley with very high let-off. Neither one is spongy at the wall but the BT you can hold forever and the Prima wants to easily go. The Prima has 12-13 fps advantage using same arrow, same draw weight. The Bowtech is easier to shoot but with less force velocity than the Mathews. Bottom line? In comfort mode on the Bowtech I would feel confident shooting out to 25 yds on a animal and further on the Prima. Perhaps in the performance mode the BT will give me more confidence in making a pass thru shot.
The speeds are fairly comparable honestly. The eclipse actually gets better speeds than the Gen 2 on the comfort setting. I didn’t have access to the chrono when I made this video. I do now. I’ll try to update
I’ve been researching women’s bows since last fall and just found your videos last week. Very helpful! Thanks for the work you’ve put in. I’m about to pull the trigger and buy a new one. Going to shoot them once more before I do, though.
Yay!!!! I’m so excited for you!! Will you let me know which one you pick? I love hearing other people’s experiences and perspectives! Thank you for the kind words. That are so appreciated!
Eppich Archery Unleashed I ordered the Bowtech! I really thought I was going to go with the Hoyt Eclipse, I shot the Mathews Prima (didn’t love it over the other two for the 5 1/2” brace height.) Then I shot the Eclipse and Shockey over and over trying to decide, haha! It was a close decision. Waiting (the hardest part!) for the smoke grey, but it’ll be worth it! Now I’m off to research thumb releases, because I think I’d like to switch.
Yay! I’m so excited for you! I felt the same way between the two bows... but the more I shoot, the more I love the bowtech. I am so much more stable and consistent with the gen2. And the smoke great is😍
My wife has a Carbon Icon in smoke grey. She wanted an EVs Shockley, because of the purple cams, but at the time her draw was too big. Her draw is 29.5”. Turned out they sent her one of the first gen 2 carbon icons. We had ordered months before it was delivered.
Wow! Most women would kill to have a draw length that long... but it also can make your selection more challenging! The carbon icon is awesome! Does she love it?
Thanks for the video! I have been looking into the Hoyt Eclipse and was able to shoot one recently. It’s hard being left handed as no shops tend to carry the high performance women’s bows for lefties so I haven’t been able to try a Prima yet - I saw that you mentioned being able to purchase a roller guard for the Eclipse. Which roller guard do you recommend?
Hi chandler! Being a lefty and a woman in this industry definitely adds to the challenge! You are a rock star! The shop we shoot for has a an after market roller that they said would work. I’ll check the brand today. Honestly though, I’ve been shooting the ecliptic worth the slider for over a year and don’t miss a roller:)
@@eppicharcheryunleashed6182 Thank you so much! I did end up going with the Eclipse and had one ordered. I actually got to pick it up today and am already in love! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us!
Um suggestion. Have the draw weight the same when your doing the speed test. Hard to compare these when one is set heavier weight. Would like to see how the Mathews came in on that speed test. Thanks. Great video though.
I went and shot all three and spent a lot of time behind each. I see men reviewing these bows even though the don’t have correct draw lengths. Most of the people who review bows don’t own them. I owned 2 of the three. You are perfectly able to take my review or leave it.
Thanks for the info. It is very hard to find good real world info about short draw bows. But I have one request, please dont put the aggressive music so loud compared to speech volume, thanks!
Thank you! We try to give info that is helpful. Thank you for the feedback. We are very new at this and have run into some technical sound issues. We are working to remedy them
I'm a 200 pound athletic man and I would shoot a prima. Light bows are cool. Aimdor looks like Mathews that is my only hesitation....outsourcing to budget parts manufacturing companies. Also some blow ups on the new setups with too many parts and bowstrings, but nobody is knocking the accuracy of these Mathews bows they are legit hunting bows with a LOT of fans.
Hi Jennifer, I probably wouldn’t suggest a brand new archer starting with these as they are built to very specific specifications and minimal adjustability. I world suggest starting with a bow that has a wide range of adjustability. I usually recommend beginners try shooting a bear cruzer g2 (we have a review and it was my first bow), a Diamond infinite edge, or an Elite ember. The ember is more of a mid grade bow and is a great option. Mission by Mathews also have a few options you could try as well. If you have any other questions. I’m always happy to help any way I can. I will be dropping a review off the ember in the next week or so:)
Thank you so much for replying! I feel pretty overwhelmed as I do not know any other archers to ask these questions to. When you say adjustability I am assuming you mean the draw weight. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Thank you for your suggestions and honesty, I will be researching each of these prior to my trip to the bow shop :)
@@eppicharcheryunleashed6182 well if you think a song with these lyrics is something to share I have no reason to respect your opinion “Yeah-eh-eh-eh Bring out your boss, bitch Yeah-eh-eh-eh BLACKPINK!” Terrible
Thank you for the feedback. I’m sorry the music wasn’t to your liking. We are just trying to help people have information but we aren’t professional video makers. We are trying to make improvements.
Hi Maik, these bows are specifically developed to improve the efficiency for short draw length and low draw weight archers. They are marketed as women’s bows because women tend to be the ones that fit that category. If you have specific questions, we are happy to answer them but would appreciate comments to me respectful. Thank you for watching our video.
Thank you for taking the time to make this comparison video! It feels so nice to see women representing! I just bought the Hoyt Eclipse and I can’t wait to start hunting with it!
I chose the Eclipse because it was one of your 2 top choices and Podium Archer’s top choice. It was very interesting because he ranked Eva Shockey bow last place since it was slower, had more vibration, weighed the heaviest, and had a bumpier draw cycle.
He ranked the Prima second because it tended to fall on its side (balance) whenever he drew the bow and because it had less forgiveness.
FYI: If you have blue strings, consider swapping them out and stealth stripping the logo because deer see blue more intensely than we can perceive it.
Thank you! That means a lot! I love that everyone has differing opinions:). I hope you are loving the eclipse!
So true, deer can see blue. I’m not a hunter so I haven’t stressed about it but such great advice!
Thanks so much and for all your videos. It is hard for us in Australia to try out all these bows, especially with supply being limited by covid. My wife is quite new to archery but after your excellent review has decided to get the Eva Shockey. Good to know that you rate all 3 so highly.
Oh thank you! I appreciate that so much! I’ve heard it’s hard to get your hands on things down there... it’s not much easier here right now either. Let me know how she likes it. I really love mine.
Excellent review . Very well done ! I am an aging bow hunter (40-45# max .) and looking for a forgiving easy tunable bow . I will look into the Bowtech .
Great video, your audio has really improved with your last few drops. My wife is going to buy one of these bows soon. Your reviews have been very helpful.
Thank you! we found out that it was an issue with recording with my phone. I was taking multiple takes and and the volume would vary wildly. Now I just do it in one take and edit like crazy haha. I’m so excited for your wife! I’m so glad that this has been of Some value. Let me know what she decides😊.
Fantastic review. Accurate info combined with objective opinion. I look forward to more product reviews. I wish you the best of luck.
Thank you so much! That really means a lot. I really appreciate the support and kind feedback!
GREAT video on these 3 bows. Very detailed discussion/reviews on them! Oh and LOVE the hat!! 😉😁💖🏹
Thank you! I’m pretty blessed to own a business that can produce our own apparel:)
Though your comments were subjective, I appreciate your words about tune-ability, forgiveness, grip feel and the draw feel... I have one of the earliest
Mathews women's bows and have had great luck... but now I'm going to make a trip to look at the Bowtech while I have been looking at the Prima. Short guy.
Thank you for your kind comments! I would love to hear what you pick
Hi! Really good review. I’m currently looking for a new bow for my daughter. I had not heard about the Eva Shockey Gen 2 until seeing your video and am now considering it. To be honest I’ve only owned Matthews so I’m totally biased. My daughter has been shooting for several years and is now going into middle school next year. So she’s only 11 but she’s outgrowing her Diamond Prism and is no longer a beginner. She needs something “next level”. I just don’t want to put her into something that’s too much for her to handle either… so I’ve been trying to find the right bow for her. She did test a Carbon Rose about a month back and seemed to handle it fairly well.
Excellent video! Thank you for breaking everything down so well!
Thank you! I appreciate that so much! I’m so glad it was helpful:).
Thank you so, so much for this video!!! This is incredibly helpful, and it’s given me a lot to think about!
I’m so glad it was helpful!! Let me know what you get!!!💙
I know this is an older video, but I am brand new to archery and I am left handed so trying bows is difficult. I was in a toss up between the Hoyt and Mathews and just holding the Mathews to me it felt top heavy, so to hear you say that made me feel better. In the end I decided to go with the Hoyt! Thank you for making this.
I’m so excited for you to get your bow. The Hoyt is a great choice! I hope you’ll keep me posted
Thanks for posting this video. I am looking for a new bow and trying to learn about bows and what will work the best for me. I never got to choose my first bow and had no say. Been shooting the same bow for 12 years. A big problem I am finding is the stores in my area are out of stock. They have nothing but 60, 70lb bows for men.
Hi! It’s so hard and frustrating that no one will stock bows in lower draw weights. That is something I’m working hard to change. The pandemic has also hit manufacturers pretty hard making it very hard to get your hands on anything. I’m so excited you are getting to upgrade! If you have any questions at all, I’m happy to help:). Thank you for you kind response!
@@eppicharcheryunleashed6182 only bow i could get my hands on out of these 3 so far has been the mathews prima.
I did get to shoot an eva shocky gen one. How does the gen one compare to the gen two?
The Gen one and Gen two are completely different. I personally didn’t like the Gen one. It was too light and wouldn’t settle well on the target for me. I also really disliked the grip- it felt like holding a 2x4 (they redesigned the Gen 2 to be slimmer. It’s not the most comfortable grip out there but I honestly shot more consistently with it) the Gen two is also significantly heavier (aluminum vs the carbon Gen 1) and the weight created a perfect balance. I feel like the gen2 and the prima have a similar feel. The prima is definitely a little more top heavy and weighted differently but I would say the Gen 2 is far more comparable to the prima than the gen1
Hey FYI the speed of the Prima will make up the slight difference in forgiveness with the 5.5” brace height as compared to the other bows. Where is comes into play more is with longer draw lengths because the power stroke will be effected more.
That’s a great point:). I still feel like you get more forgiveness with a longer brace height when shooting nearly the same speeds at the same draw lengths. I definitely think that the effect is greater at greater draw lengths, that’s why I said the difference is very slight but still worth mentioning 😊. I really appreciate the feedback.
May I ask a stupid question? Should I be looking for a shorter riser/limb height for my lady?
Short might be faster.
Longer is slower, more forgiving. and better string angle.
go for 32-34" ATA riser imo
I’m sorry I just saw this. Never a stupid question! It really depends. Personal frame size is an important consideration as well as what type of archery she is wanting to shoot. A longer Axel to Axel will give more stability but might be heavier, changes string angle, or be more difficult if you are going to be hiking around with it
Great video. Curious what sight is that on your Hoyt?
Hi Grant, thanks so much! It’s the PSE BLACK MOUNTAIN Carbon Dr I have actually loved it and it’s really inexpensive!
Great video very informative
Thank you! I really Appreciate that!
I too am left handed and bought both the Bowtech Gen 2 and the Prima. The biggest difference is the draw. I have the BT Gen 2 in comfort mode and intend to flip it to the performance mod. to compare but the Prima is a steady hard pull throughout with barely a drop into a very short valley. The BT gen 2 starts out easy and there is a hump at the back of the pull and it dumps into a big valley with very high let-off. Neither one is spongy at the wall but the BT you can hold forever and the Prima wants to easily go. The Prima has 12-13 fps advantage using same arrow, same draw weight. The Bowtech is easier to shoot but with less force velocity than the Mathews. Bottom line? In comfort mode on the Bowtech I would feel confident shooting out to 25 yds on a animal and further on the Prima. Perhaps in the performance mode the BT will give me more confidence in making a pass thru shot.
what about speeds? speed makes a huge difference in choice especially with short draw lengths and low poundage.
The speeds are fairly comparable honestly. The eclipse actually gets better speeds than the Gen 2 on the comfort setting. I didn’t have access to the chrono when I made this video. I do now. I’ll try to update
I’ve been researching women’s bows since last fall and just found your videos last week. Very helpful! Thanks for the work you’ve put in. I’m about to pull the trigger and buy a new one. Going to shoot them once more before I do, though.
Yay!!!! I’m so excited for you!! Will you let me know which one you pick? I love hearing other people’s experiences and perspectives! Thank you for the kind words. That are so appreciated!
Eppich Archery Unleashed I ordered the Bowtech! I really thought I was going to go with the Hoyt Eclipse, I shot the Mathews Prima (didn’t love it over the other two for the 5 1/2” brace height.) Then I shot the Eclipse and Shockey over and over trying to decide, haha! It was a close decision. Waiting (the hardest part!) for the smoke grey, but it’ll be worth it! Now I’m off to research thumb releases, because I think I’d like to switch.
Yay! I’m so excited for you! I felt the same way between the two bows... but the more I shoot, the more I love the bowtech. I am so much more stable and consistent with the gen2. And the smoke great is😍
My wife has a Carbon Icon in smoke grey. She wanted an EVs Shockley, because of the purple cams, but at the time her draw was too big. Her draw is 29.5”. Turned out they sent her one of the first gen 2 carbon icons. We had ordered months before it was delivered.
Wow! Most women would kill to have a draw length that long... but it also can make your selection more challenging! The carbon icon is awesome! Does she love it?
Thanks for the video! I have been looking into the Hoyt Eclipse and was able to shoot one recently. It’s hard being left handed as no shops tend to carry the high performance women’s bows for lefties so I haven’t been able to try a Prima yet - I saw that you mentioned being able to purchase a roller guard for the Eclipse. Which roller guard do you recommend?
Hi chandler! Being a lefty and a woman in this industry definitely adds to the challenge! You are a rock star! The shop we shoot for has a an after market roller that they said would work. I’ll check the brand today. Honestly though, I’ve been shooting the ecliptic worth the slider for over a year and don’t miss a roller:)
@@eppicharcheryunleashed6182 Thank you so much! I did end up going with the Eclipse and had one ordered. I actually got to pick it up today and am already in love! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us!
Yay! I’m so excited for you!
Um suggestion. Have the draw weight the same when your doing the speed test. Hard to compare these when one is set heavier weight. Would like to see how the Mathews came in on that speed test. Thanks. Great video though.
I completely agree. I just didn’t have the opportunity to use a chronograph with all three bows at the same draw weight yet
No worries. Just waiting until that happens. Thanks. Have a fantastic day.
I’ll try to get that done ASAP!
How can you do a good review if you don't have all 3 bows
I went and shot all three and spent a lot of time behind each. I see men reviewing these bows even though the don’t have correct draw lengths. Most of the people who review bows don’t own them. I owned 2 of the three. You are perfectly able to take my review or leave it.
Thanks for the info. It is very hard to find good real world info about short draw bows. But I have one request, please dont put the aggressive music so loud compared to speech volume, thanks!
Thank you! We try to give info that is helpful. Thank you for the feedback. We are very new at this and have run into some technical sound issues. We are working to remedy them
I'm a 200 pound athletic man and I would shoot a prima. Light bows are cool. Aimdor looks like Mathews that is my only hesitation....outsourcing to budget parts manufacturing companies. Also some blow ups on the new setups with too many parts and bowstrings, but nobody is knocking the accuracy of these Mathews bows they are legit hunting bows with a LOT of fans.
I totally agree! They definitely aren’t just for women!
How can I order you hat 😁
Hi! Drop me a dm over on IG!:)
Are any of these bows appropriate for a beginner?
Hi Jennifer, I probably wouldn’t suggest a brand new archer starting with these as they are built to very specific specifications and minimal adjustability. I world suggest starting with a bow that has a wide range of adjustability. I usually recommend beginners try shooting a bear cruzer g2 (we have a review and it was my first bow), a Diamond infinite edge, or an Elite ember. The ember is more of a mid grade bow and is a great option. Mission by Mathews also have a few options you could try as well. If you have any other questions. I’m always happy to help any way I can. I will be dropping a review off the ember in the next week or so:)
Thank you so much for replying! I feel pretty overwhelmed as I do not know any other archers to ask these questions to. When you say adjustability I am assuming you mean the draw weight. Please correct me if I’m wrong. Thank you for your suggestions and honesty, I will be researching each of these prior to my trip to the bow shop :)
Yes, draw weight and draw length:). I’m happy to help any way I can. If you have INSTAGRAM you can message me any and all the questions you have:)
@@eppicharcheryunleashed6182 ahhh gotcha! If I ever make my way over to Instagram I will look you up for sure. Thanks again for being so helpful :)
If you have any other questions AT ALL, you can totally ask her too! I’m so excited for you and want you to feel supported!
Prima is the fastest but speed isn't everything i personally like a more forgiving bow myself also
I agree. It’s so personal
Terrible ghetto music - dislike applied
Thanks you, I appreciate that the only thing you cared about was the music.
@@eppicharcheryunleashed6182 well if you think a song with these lyrics is something to share I have no reason to respect your opinion “Yeah-eh-eh-eh
Bring out your boss, bitch
Yeah-eh-eh-eh
BLACKPINK!” Terrible
That ghetto azz intro music kinda ruins to video
Thank you for the feedback. I’m sorry the music wasn’t to your liking. We are just trying to help people have information but we aren’t professional video makers. We are trying to make improvements.
Haha I guess my friend just bought a bitch bow.
Hi Maik, these bows are specifically developed to improve the efficiency for short draw length and low draw weight archers. They are marketed as women’s bows because women tend to be the ones that fit that category. If you have specific questions, we are happy to answer them but would appreciate comments to me respectful. Thank you for watching our video.
@@eppicharcheryunleashed6182 Dang! I got schooled. 😐