I've been looking at electric car conversions for a while, it'd be nice to see a price on that to know what I'm getting myself into with one of those motors
Quick diclaimer here the TFGs output is 600 hp alone the electric motor which is ajasoned(sorry for my english) to it has 400 altough that motor in most of its time act as a generator.
With how Koenigsegg make everything as light as possible, I could imagine them becoming their own F1 team just to be instantly disqualified from the first race for making their car too light.
That's what better engineering gets you. Koenigsegg has long been at the front of the pack for ultra light out of the box powerful engineering. Ferrari and early Williams had that issue. "Your car is too fast it's not fair." Is always an out played argument. I feel they're best suited for the F1. They most likely don't want to lose money for prides sake. It's a fools game to enter the F1 as no one makes money. Lol 😂
weight has long been regulated in f1, KNSG would find loopholes in the rulebook to create new bizzare inventions and overall engine and electric power.
If youre going to do an apples to orange comparison for electrical vs a typical traditional combustion engine for weight vs output, it would be better to add the weight of the batteries to the elctrical motor and the fuel to the combustion because this will help with an overall comparison. Just my opinion
That is why I love Toyota since they’ve been investing heavily on a new battery tech like the solid state battery that cost less,cheaper and much lighter than lithium not to mention charges faster too.
@@jackarmstrong7285 but the electric motor doesn't run on traditional fuel either. The battery is the fuel tanks of the electrics and since they have vastly different characteristics than a box with liquid in them and the whole point of this video is "look how light this is!", you need to add the other parts that goes into running it up to the point it get similar
So small yet so powerful! I wonder how light and compact a 15hp motor would be. It would be a dream come true if we could use it as a 'plug and play' motor for a kayak, a motorcycle, a lawn mawer and, why not, even create electricity with a wind turbine.
It's small but not light though, if you know about an all aluminium gasoline engine's weight. Those engines with 1000cc displacement which is much bigger than the ev motor and with all the engine components weighs lesser than 75kgs, so EV motor may not be as compact as it seems. There can be mini 50hp+ single cylinder gasoline engines for the same weight as a 15hp ev motor, and wouldn't be any bigger or space consuming either.
cuz solar and wind dont create enough power, like most people you fail to realize how much is needed for the grid in general. nuclear can help but people are scared of it...
@@octoslut While I agree with you for grid scale solutions, you completely missed the point of the comment. He's far more interested in using them for private projects by the average individual (which, as a side note, is one of the places where renewables make a lot more sense than nuclear, as you can't safely build a reactor at home)
@@arachnenet2244 Just the run of the mill 1/10 scale brushless motors are in the 1-2hp range. They weigh a few grams. Brushless motors can be ridiculously power dense. The issue is, as usual, battery weight. Small nitro engines are also capable of 1 to 3hp. They weigh nothing. I have no doubts you could built a larger. very light weight titanium, or aluminum nitro engine capable of at least 15hp. I would be surprised if it weighs more than one or two kg. Special and expensive stuff, but I can't see why it isn't possible.
I've been messing with rc cars with brushless motors for a couple years now. They are absolutely insanely fast, even on 6s (3.4v per cell 6 cells) I know someone claimed one of the 1/5 scale brushless motors was 25 hp, about as big around as a Red Bull can, but a little shorter. The batteries last so much longer all the time. Eventually we will figure out how to store electricity more densely than with todays batteries.
Mate we can already without batteries but Governments do not support it as there is more money to be made with inefficient, degrading technology rather than no maintenance, universally retrofittable technology.
@@crxdelsolsir I think governments are coming around. They're sick of feeding oil rich foreign oligarchs who keep disturbing the peace. The world has not had a major conflict in many years but has enjoyed huge increase in wealth. Someone finally got the memo that peace is profit.
@@sonny9608 Like how a really good solution is for us to make our own oil and sell to Germany so they stop relying on the non-Soviets. Why Sleepy-Joe stopped our oil industry I can't fathom but it does confirm he is mentally unfit.
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This will be a big player and an influence in the automotive industry as a whole, i can't wait to see how this tech evolves in the coming ten to twenty years.
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It actually has 2100 hp, but the power is split throughout the speed. In other words, it has 2 electric engines that assist TFG from 0 to 200 km/h and 2 other electric motors that assist the TFG from 200 to 400 km/h (not exactly this but I made it simple. I didn’t talk about the Direct Drive that has its own electric motor and stuff. Just wanted to say it’s more complicated than that). And the same goes for the torque.
please continue....huge fan of your teams innovations. very exciting application to many many different regimes/purposes. I am excited about something like this for farm equipment/tractor/excavator. The weight issue is not a priority and is in fact counter to speed and performance. So a rather large battery bank would work nicely to create the mass necessary for many different industrial and agricultural applications. please link up with kubota and yanmar. Please!
På andra sidan av plånboksnivån skulle en 4 hp bil med en motor på varje hjul stor som en 1948 års hundkoja funka? Då rekommenderar jag kontakta Geely! Jag tror att en utvecklad lågbudget motor av detta slag kan revolutionera EV marknaden! Att byta fyra hjul sätta in ett batteripaket på några kilowatt och en EV är skapad! Waaoow
Wow, that size is amazing. For years I have been looking for an electric motor that has a bit more punch in a smaller package. That power is well above what I need, I hope in the future someone takes the tech and makes smaller electric motors for other applications.
same i want one for my Datsun b210 wagon the original engine is slap worn out and parts are already to hard to find for it so might as well turn it electric
I've been bragging about this for a year now. It's going to game changing if it's tech trickles down to us normies before combustion is completely gone, the synergy between the two different power sources has got to be one of the best mechanical team ups ever created :D
@@showmeanedge figured that's where you got thrown off. That's no different than a teen boy bragging about specs of the new Xbox system he just read about online to some of his friends who hadn't yet heard about it. That's what he meant. Again read rest of his post. Also note the pfp is just "the dude"
@@relansis6962 10 years is fair, considering they took the better part of a decade to develop the motors and inverters for the Plaid at that was just squeezing what they could out of radial flux motors. Again, Keonigsegg's MO (Modus Operandi), is pushing the tech. If it can be made better, then how and then do it. "Solving the problem." Tesla mostly feels like (hopefully not actually the case) they are pushing tech for bragging rights (clout), not to actually solve a problem. Once Keonigsegg gets deep into BEVs, Tesla is going to be falling behind. Tesla will still be richer, but not better. And... Keonigsegg got the Regera and then the Gamera built first. It is immaterial how many they built (88 Regeras, 3 Gameras planned) they have the tech done and ready to license now, much like "Freevalve". And Tesla still does not do crate motors. All those projects not by Tesla using Tesla motors, are from wrecked Teslas. Ford does crate motors, and you know GM is looking at it seriously.
@@relansis6962 Just make [sure] you are playing attention as they age. So many will watch Tesla or Ford or GM or... or... or... and ignore [smaller players like] Keonigsegg.
I have an equation for you to consider: aT + 8(CH) = _vol_ SD All that torque they are advertising plus all those cup holders equals a lot of spilled drinks….
they are cutting edge but their prices are insane, what really is even more brilliant is tesla, for like 90k you get the fastest and quickest production sedan or suv which also happen to be the 4 safest production cars in the world
1.5 million dollar+ super car, that comes with 1700 hp, and 8 cup holders. They’re already ahead of the game the have that many cup holders, having cup holders in a super car is just a straight flex
@@vicvega8986 no its there but not in a all wheel drive method. I would say its similar to how you see konigsegg show that block from the gemera engine with the electric motor.
Experimental Classification could be used on any vehicle. Why not a Formula 1.? Send the idea to one of the race teams. What's the worst that can happen is that they say no. A positive is that they will take it under serious consideration or Yes.
Pretty sure they didn't make the motor. It's a derivative of the YASA Yokeless motor. Ask me how I know, I was tasked with designing a GT car that would use two of those in the rear for torque steering as well as a 1.2 ICE engine upfront. The thing was (voluntarily) transmission-limited to 220 kph but could get there in about 8sec (traction was the main limitation). The insane torque you can get from those was a real problem though, designing a gear train able to take that much torque made me use a custom herringbone planetary gearing, the side thrust on the bearing and casing was just too much to handle for anything we could realistically put in an aluminium casing.
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@@bolt5564 We were supposed to present it to the Salon de L'automobile 2020 but of course there was a small problem called coronavirus. Check the 2022 edition, watch for a GT car 2+2 with a carbon fiber subframe, a 1.2 THP engine upfront connected to an 8 speed automatic gearbox. There will be two YASA P400 connected to each of the rear wheel on a quick disconnect system I designed (the whole rear powertrains drops without the need to unbolt the rear subframe).
As someone not an insider to that area, is Yasa like a different company and keonigsegg just licensed usage of their motors whereas tesla actually created their own motors?
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I don't know why people keep comparing the weight of electric motors to ICEs, it's a completely moot point unless you intend to plug that motor up to the mains. The weight of the motors in an electric car is pretty much irrelevant, the problem is always the batteries.
true, although it's great to hear that the weight of electric motor can be lowered. As batteries become more energy dense their weight is also lowered. You can't lower the weight of fuel and it's difficult to improve the gasoline engine even more. I don't think that the weight of electric vehicles will ever get lower than that of cars with an ICE engine, but I'm sure that it will get close to it.
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@@dxpehat7682 I think we're close to the physical limitations of current battery technology. It would take something very different to improve battery energy density substantially, one possibility being metal-air batteries which completely remove the cathode from the battery so could potentially be much ligher but those are still in very early stages. But the weight of EVs is something that only car enthusiats really care about anyway. Most people don't know or care about a car's weight as long as it drives alright. The more important factor is cost, batteries are still very expensive and if a new superior battery technology comes out it's unlikely it'll be cheaper at least until several years into production. The irony of electric cars is that a lot of people want them because they don't want to waste money on fuel, but can't afford one.
Put 4 of these in a car ...one on each tire. Instant 1300+ HP directly to the tires. No noise either, super freaky lol. Those Tesla Type S cars are insanely fast and the really creepy part is how quiet it is as it accelerates to those crazy speeds!
It's not quiet at speed. The tires slapping the ground and the vehicle punching a hole in the wind is actually pretty loud. Listen to them racing up Pike's peak. Not very quiet at all. Those electric motors sing a different tune.
It's significant to me in that it can be scaled. But I'm not sure in a horsepower to kilogram comparison, they exceeded Tesla. I didn't think the motors would be such a focus of development, but I'm glad they are. I really want to see easy retrofit kits for existing vehicles, and small packages certainly help with that.
@@transtubular If they want everyone to convert to electric drive, they have to come up with a cheap and drop in plug and play system. most people can't afford to spend an extra $500 much less a $30,000-50,000 electric car. A $7,000-10,000 drop in conversion? maybe.
Scaling limit in EVs isn't the motor or it's weight, it's the batteries. An EV will ultimately weigh more at the curb as a similar ICE vehicle with a full tank of gas and have significantly less range. Currently there really isn't a way around this as max energy density of batteries is no where near as dense as combustible fuel. I believe the same is true for even fuel cells
@@ProgrammerWithoutAName Pretty much this. It's why claims of the Tesla Semi Truck are looked at with a skeptical view. It's also why I think a Diesel Electric Semi would be more logical.
i'd like to add that an electric motor power rating is it's peak power that can be maintained for about a minute. In the case of this motor, it's about 20seconds peak power. The nominal or continues power is between 30-50% of it's peak power. as for this engine it's 100KW or 136hp(40% peak) as it's continues power. None the less it's amazing that this little thing can perform the way it does. source: motor authority Koenigsegg's electric motor
Whether electrically produced or mechanical, horsepower is an expression of work done over time. The definition of 1 HP is the ability to lift 33,000 lbs. 1 foot in 1 minute, where 2 HP has the ability to lift 66,000 lbs. 1 foot in 1 minute, and so on. The term 'horsepower' is used because when the first automobiles were produced, there was nothing to compare them to, other than the everyday utility of the time called: the horse. The rest is history.
if anyone is more in this topic, rotational and axial flux motors are essentially induction and reluctance motor and the raxial motor is just a hybrid between both which allows it to have a very good power to rpm curve based on the firmware controling the magnetic field. It's really fascinating stuff!
That's not correct. Axial and radial flux refer to the direction of the vector perpendicular to the gap between the rotor and stator relative to the axis of rotation. In radial flux, that direction is (all) radii of the cylindrical gap. In an actual flux motors that direction is parallel with the axis of rotation.
It's a very impressive motor, but comparing it to the weight of a BMW gas engine is misleading until you factor in the weight of fuel: batteries vs. gasoline.
@@GoldenEDM_2018 I do not know where you get your information from but ICEs are much more efficient than you just said, Toyota’s ICE (which one can buy at a reasonably price) is around 36-38% efficient including the gearbox, F1 cars presumably would have a thermal efficiency of nearly 50% with the gearbox while the engine efficiency is around 52%. Koenigsegg free valve can make +50% efficient engines. I know they are not very efficient, but modern ones are much more efficient than you might think Large marine diesels can also reach around 50% thermal efficiency
@Daniel Vipin "If battery tech improves dramatically, things like these will be possible." Batteries need to store at least 10 times more energy per weight unit to be a solution. It took 70 years to increase battery storage capacity four times.
While these cars' power figures are insane, what I'm more interested to see is the application of this tech to smaller (and more reasonable) applications. Imagine this tech, pared down to a third of the size of these motors, with one at each wheel of a GTI or Honda hatchback, priced at $35k. THAT will be a game changer.
Yes that would be funny.A cop sees a lawn mower going about 200 miles an hour,calls headquarters,captain i just clocked a lawn mower going 200 miles an hour,officer smith i need to see you back at the police station right now..
Imagine the possability of a bolt on kit that would turn any car into 600+ hp electric and potential 1200+ if you have room or willing to slightly modefy the vehicle. If it came with the electronic computer and battery pack(s) then it may not be that difficult to swap
There is a Japanese limo with eight wheels, each with its own motor. This would make it insanely fast. Right motors producing three hundred horsepower each would be mind boggling fast.
Every time I watch a video about Koenigsegg I realise how much of a massive fan of the guy I am. He just keeps coming up with awesome stuff and builds it all in house.
Koenigsegg feels to me like a guy who's going "I want that thing but it doesn't exist so I'm going diy" but he has multiple million dollars to throw at it.
Here's an idea, perhaps with the torque converter removed this motor might fit in the bell housing of my classic V8 thus keeping the engine. Under bonnet it would still look original but with the economy of electric for every day use. The best I ever got from the V8 was 12 mpg
I have been thinking the same thing about my Jeep. Keep the old inline 6, turn it into a hybrid with an electric motor sandwiched between the ICE and Gearbox. Just to think the 190hp 4.0 gets barely 100hp to the wheels, just a little extra power is more than enough.
I was thinking something very simular. I drive a large SUV for my family of 6. Sliding this in between the motor and trans, or shortening the driveshaft and bolting it up behind the transmission. This would allow people like myself that can't afford to run out and buy an all electric to improve their mileage. Plus a!low them to get a feel for electric without a huge investment. It would also reduce a lot of the wear and tear on the drive train if its only used for speeds below 25.
Honestly I hope the concept picks up on other electric cars or gets patented/outsourced bcs one of those units would be enough for a cheap small car in terms of power. We can also factor in the idea that they could be pretty energy efficient if limited to around 30% power. My dad's car is like 2 years old and doesn't have over 150hp.
An ensemble of more similar self sufficient parts working together would be made out of units. A normal engine's parts are nothing more than it's parts. A propulsion system that uses 4 similar engines that could work standalone basically has 4 units. You can use it interchangeably for any system that uses more of the same piece/subsystem in an array of some kind
So a Jeep 4.0L I-6 makes maybe 100hp to the wheels. Wouldn't sandwiching a motor smaller than 330hp, say just 100-150hp (or torque), between ICE & gearbox be a cost effective solution to add power&efficiency in existing cars?
Can it be scaled down? Like, 100hp at a third or half the size? And does the torque specs scale with it? If so, that tech is brilliant. Pair it with Toyotas solid state batteries and perovskite solar cells and electric cars should be even lighter than current petrol cars and won’t need to stop for recharging.
Just think of the amazing cars you could build at home with a power plant this small! You don’t need a transmission, just a differential with a final drive ratio that works for your top speed of choice. Batteries and motor esc, or motor controller system. Once you’ve got that it’s all about packaging and charging. I can’t remember if it’s AEM or someone else but I know someone’s more notable company has already made standalone units that can control the Tesla control units that control the Tesla motors. So if they can be adapted to run a Tesla motor by bypassing their over the air updates and locked out system, then they could definitely run this motor and you’d have a fully functioning car with as many electronic add ins as you want or need. Power windows, locks, power steering, headlights, indicators, taillights, accessories etc. The possibilities are endless. You can choose any car essentially and decide to go electric and it would be a huge amount of fun thanks to how tiny this power plant is but also remarkably powerful for its compact size.
If Koenigsegg could mass produce these, they would be revolutionary. Smaller and more powerful than a rotary, light as hell, and even damn near small enough to put inside a wheel itself. If only this tech was invented like 20 years ago
It would be beyond awesome if koenigsegg sold these motors as parts for people to buy to make project cars with. Depending on how they price them and the volume they can produce them, they could definitely make a healthy profit of selling the motors alone
!!!Oh HELL YES!!! The Gemera needs to happen 10 million times over. Also the Koenigsegg turbo 3 cyl variable cam engine is another example of incredible genius.
I would love to see their 3 cylinder engine in a replica of the Chrysler M5S turbocharged car (the Wraith car). It was designed to do more with less. Like the 3 cylinder engine.
@@danielbrealey2924 F1 is the source of most of the advancements made in ICE technology over the last 30 years. Where do you think variable valve, variable intake length, DOHC, traction control, ABS, reactive surfaces, reactive suspension, carbon fibre, flap-paddle shifting, etc etc etc originated? F1 is _constant_ R&D for the slightest fraction of an advantage.
@@masondegaulle5731 I'm aware, but it's also very heavily regulated. Just like most other forms of racing these days, it's become spec racing. Your not really allowed to think outside the box or other teams will try and have you disqualified... They all have to do something together or not at all it seems of the last 3 - 4 decades
Company’s that are develops this kinda tech need to offer them as a crate style motor. I’d happily stick one of these units in my car but I bet they won’t offer it up to the general public and would be an absurd price
I thought the same while watching this. The M5 e60 is my dream car, and I think it would be amazing to put one of these on it to compensate for the outdated power 🔥.
The issue is that your engine is complete, just add fuel. For a motor, you need to decide how many batteries and what kind of batteries, making the motor literally negligible in terms of weight and cost.
@@theashenfox oh yea 100% but I think of people like this offered crate motors with those combined electric motors and control units atleast buying battery packs etc would ease the design process
If only someone could build a decent size six passenger sedan with this technology so we could get away from small cars and giant SUVs that would be great.
No, they need to get away from the whole battery concept and focus on direct energy harnessing. Storing battery is absolute tech-medieval. It only really makes sense for small amounts of electricity but even that should soon be replaced with high power capacitors. They age a lot better than batteries due to their nature of getting constantly charged and discharged and are a lot better suited for that. But other than that, energy must be sourced directly. The battery concept definitely outlived itself.
@@JorenMathews Maybe he wants to get power directly from the road?? Never mind that that would make for a road that was 5-10 times more expensive to built and would take decades maybe even a century to build
"The battery concept" lol! Yeah, let's forget about improving the technology. The "concept" is obsolete! Lol! That's gotta come in handy when he's looking to buy stock! lololol!!
If this could be miniaturized you could have 20KW on each hub, powered by a serial hybrid, Obrist ZVG, super compact battery. No drive shafts to worry about.
That is an absolutely brilliant motor design and the weight figures are astonishing. But I do wonder if we will see this in higher numbers any time soon or even within the decade. It is not just that "They simply do it better" but also that Koenigsegg can get away with using madly expensive materials, loads of manual labour and having each drive unit individualy tested by a team of engineers. So what interests me is if this can be properly industrialised. If so, it could probably shave off 50 or more kilos off most BEVs, which would be a very welcome improvement. Not to mention the space savings.
I wrote my bachelor thesis on electric helicopters… electric engines are much more power dense since years, but when you add the energy supply to the equation they become just comparable with combustion engines. And if I remember well, they have a THIRD of the autonomy, (surely less then a half). World will change when a different electric energy storage technology will come out.
"a THIRD of the autonomy" ? Was 'autonomy' the word you meant to type, and if so could you expand upon that please? That's not a usage of that word with which I am familiar.
"I know we shouldn't compare a combustion engine to an electric motor" Kind of funny considering both are marketed by how many horses they replace lol Crazy power out of a motor that size, wonder if the controller for it is more complex.
not so..you people are so fkn branwashed. lets go green save the panet.. sorry,,it,ll never happen..the sun sasy so.. billions could of allready been saved, if every engine, was converted to lpg. the tech is there, nothing new needed. with higher compression, its more powerfull & hell clean..ev,s are bs tech.. waste of brain cells..
I'd be interested in a comparison between this motor and the motors developed by Lucid which includes the motors and inverters. They seem very very similar. Yamaha glad also developed a very small electric motor that is scalable and around the same size. It would be me if you could look into the number of new electric motor techs that are out there besides one that is so unattainable.
If engineers can get this thing to fit inside the wheels of a car, imagine the sheer internal volume it'll free up and also having each wheel have 300+ horsepower, would make for an amazing electric car.
If it's that powerful and light enough, then technically you can make a small aircraft out of that that can hold up a human right, like a hover craft vehicle without needing insane levels of energy. Forget the fastest wheeled cars with each motor being powered by it, but imagine the propeller used to transfer air and propulsion since they are quite lightweight?
Super impressive. I wonder of these kinds of motors can be modified for naval warships such as existing Arleigh Burke (and make up for the deleteriously, astoundingly insufficient main engine room space that prevented the Flights 1->2A getting the Grumman Advanced Hybrid Drive (AHDS) motors) to turn accessory drive, to turn the shafts on the reduction gear, or on other gears attached to the propeller shafts. These motors seem so small they could be attached in places not even available to the AHDS, depending on engineering considerations.if scaled up, I imagine they could handle 1,000 hp which would be good for a few knots.
Just one small problem with these motors they may be tiny but the battery packs to supply them are huge. Also currently we don't even have all our houses, buildings, streetlights, Etc on Renewable Power so in the end in a lot of regions you be switching one carbon source to another.
Amazing size efficiency, but what about electric consumption efficiency? In a car like a Koenigsegg, range is probably not a factor since it's a hybrid. But range is the biggest factor in everyday driving all electrics. We would need to see if that motor design would be a convenient port to the all electric car industry.
The electric motor has not been a problem for decades--it's better than a combustion engine in all respects. The difficulty is batteries. Compared to combustible fuel, fully-charged batteries hold a puny amount of energy per weight and volume. There's no solution for this on the horizon.
@@grasonicus I agree, I am referring to how this new design compares to electric motors currently in use in commercial vehicles. Since it's size is much smaller, but outputs great power, I wonder if the electric consumption efficiency might be sacrificed for size efficiency.
I know the EV motor mentioned in this video is lightweight and for the size and weight puts out a lot of horsepower and torque according to what is said here. I know the gasoline combustion engine counterpart being discussed in the video has comparable horsepower and slightly less torque while being considerably bigger and heavier. Sure makes you think of a underachiever. But when you weigh in the battery pack required for the Electric Motor to operate , would you lose the gains mentioned here in compared to the gasoline combustion engine? Especially if one takes account energy density of the battery pack versus gasoline energy density stored in fossil fuel while also considering the weight of gasoline once you fill up the tank. Which one actually weighs more and which one would win this competition compared to horsepower and torque output. I would also think one would need to take in account which one has more usable energy. I'm not a genius in this field, nor do I claim to be. I'm really not sure, I'm just curious. To the ones out there that know more than I do please help me understand better.
I was listening for the type any amp hour batteries needed for this kind of set up but it was not mentioned or what kind of charge system is used to charge the batteries. All of these thing have to be known before any one can make any kind of decision on this car or these motors.
@@charlesreohr6236 I emailed them looking for a price. They said they don't have one yet. They don't have a lot of info on this motor. They said 6 months.
@@charlesreohr6236 Yeah the power requirement dictate the size and weight of the battery. Kinda pointless to have a 2,000hp car that can only go 90 miles.
Also a motor system like that could possibly be licensed out to public transport vehicle manufacturers like Bombardier, Semens and Alstom so the motors could be used on electric mass transit vehicles and possibly high speed trains! :)
As I recall, when wiring hobby electric motors (1970's), one wiring system was called "series", while the other wiring system was called "shunted". A motor with "shunted" wiring had more power--less speed, while the "series" motor had more speed--less power. The idea of combining the two types of wiring systems is old news.
Has the "power" of this motor been independently been verified? Maybe it's also a perpetual motion machine, and a transporter from the starship Enterprise.
@@loztagain8278 yeah. In my experience, when claims of outrageous performance in the real world are presented to you without evidence that can be verified, they probably are false.
Its an electric motor, they virtually never break, and have literally 1 moving part, you’re thinking of the battery, if you’re going to be a hater at least have a basic fucking education in what your hating on
I don't think the torque would be very good. And trains need very good starting torque. Perhaps a hybrid design where conventional high-torque motors are used when starting but at high speeds it switches to the high-speed motors. The amount of torque this motor can produce is only "443 nm" according to the video, but a typical train could do 40,000nm of torque depending on the type of train!
Combining these with an engine that uses hydrogen rather than gasoline to generate electricity could be a viable option to cut vehicle pollution levels over time.
i watched a video about the company stress testing a Koenigsegg hitting it with a hammer flying over speed bumps rear ending other cars. They are actually really freaking sturdy!!
A Seimens Emrax 348 electrical motor, that is 348 mm in diameter, put out 509 H.P. and 738 ft. lbs of torque at peak power. It's maximum rpm is 4500. It only weighs 42 kilograms. These motors can be stacked together like a roll of coins. They are liquid cooled. They are also the most powerful electric motor power to weight ratio.
Can't just be me that wants to put one of these on a go-kart or something - imagine that!
i want to put in on a pedal assist bike, prolly be a normal bike after that.
I've been looking at electric car conversions for a while, it'd be nice to see a price on that to know what I'm getting myself into with one of those motors
That would be insane, someone needs to make it happen 🤞😂
@@bloopbloop9687 50k probably
Quick diclaimer here the TFGs output is 600 hp alone the electric motor which is ajasoned(sorry for my english) to it has 400 altough that motor in most of its time act as a generator.
With how Koenigsegg make everything as light as possible, I could imagine them becoming their own F1 team just to be instantly disqualified from the first race for making their car too light.
Koenigsegg as F1 tram or engine/tech supplier , amazing!
It would be so fast that it won the race before it even started lmao.
That's what better engineering gets you. Koenigsegg has long been at the front of the pack for ultra light out of the box powerful engineering. Ferrari and early Williams had that issue. "Your car is too fast it's not fair." Is always an out played argument. I feel they're best suited for the F1. They most likely don't want to lose money for prides sake. It's a fools game to enter the F1 as no one makes money. Lol 😂
weight has long been regulated in f1, KNSG would find loopholes in the rulebook to create new bizzare inventions and overall engine and electric power.
@Will Swift you don't know they weigh the cars after every race...
I wish they sold this as a unit… imagine all the engine swaps you could do with it…
yup, straight into my santa fe as a hybrid, the fuel milage would be insane!
1,000 hp Ford Escort wagon.
@@greggstrasser5791 Now we can safely fit 1000hp into a frickin miata
We need this in go karts
I need one for my boat
Imagine putting this engine into a motorcycle. The power to weight ratio would be insane.
The rider would need to be insane too! lol
Straight to heaven
Batteries?
@@finished6267 Yes, electric vehicles have batteries.
But it has to carry a huge battery to run, that could totally ruin the power to weight ratio.
If youre going to do an apples to orange comparison for electrical vs a typical traditional combustion engine for weight vs output, it would be better to add the weight of the batteries to the elctrical motor and the fuel to the combustion because this will help with an overall comparison. Just my opinion
I think the weight-to-power comparison should be between an electric motor and a fuel pump.
yes until lightweight batteries come along i does not matter if this motor only weighed 500grams.
That is why I love Toyota since they’ve been investing heavily on a new battery tech like the solid state battery that cost less,cheaper and much lighter than lithium not to mention charges faster too.
You don’t include the weight of the fuel + fuel tank when looking at the weight of a combustion motor tbf
@@jackarmstrong7285 but the electric motor doesn't run on traditional fuel either. The battery is the fuel tanks of the electrics and since they have vastly different characteristics than a box with liquid in them and the whole point of this video is "look how light this is!", you need to add the other parts that goes into running it up to the point it get similar
So small yet so powerful! I wonder how light and compact a 15hp motor would be. It would be a dream come true if we could use it as a 'plug and play' motor for a kayak, a motorcycle, a lawn mawer and, why not, even create electricity with a wind turbine.
Well do I have news for you! The really high end rc brushless motors are about the diameter of an average bicep and can punch out 10hp+.
It's small but not light though, if you know about an all aluminium gasoline engine's weight. Those engines with 1000cc displacement which is much bigger than the ev motor and with all the engine components weighs lesser than 75kgs, so EV motor may not be as compact as it seems. There can be mini 50hp+ single cylinder gasoline engines for the same weight as a 15hp ev motor, and wouldn't be any bigger or space consuming either.
cuz solar and wind dont create enough power, like most people you fail to realize how much is needed for the grid in general. nuclear can help but people are scared of it...
@@octoslut While I agree with you for grid scale solutions, you completely missed the point of the comment. He's far more interested in using them for private projects by the average individual (which, as a side note, is one of the places where renewables make a lot more sense than nuclear, as you can't safely build a reactor at home)
@@arachnenet2244 Just the run of the mill 1/10 scale brushless motors are in the 1-2hp range. They weigh a few grams.
Brushless motors can be ridiculously power dense. The issue is, as usual, battery weight. Small nitro engines are also capable of 1 to 3hp. They weigh nothing. I have no doubts you could built a larger. very light weight titanium, or aluminum nitro engine capable of at least 15hp. I would be surprised if it weighs more than one or two kg. Special and expensive stuff, but I can't see why it isn't possible.
I've been messing with rc cars with brushless motors for a couple years now. They are absolutely insanely fast, even on 6s (3.4v per cell 6 cells) I know someone claimed one of the 1/5 scale brushless motors was 25 hp, about as big around as a Red Bull can, but a little shorter. The batteries last so much longer all the time. Eventually we will figure out how to store electricity more densely than with todays batteries.
Mate we can already without batteries but Governments do not support it as there is more money to be made with inefficient, degrading technology rather than no maintenance, universally retrofittable technology.
@@crxdelsolsir I think governments are coming around. They're sick of feeding oil rich foreign oligarchs who keep disturbing the peace. The world has not had a major conflict in many years but has enjoyed huge increase in wealth. Someone finally got the memo that peace is profit.
The problem is charging
@@sonny9608 Like how a really good solution is for us to make our own oil and sell to Germany so they stop relying on the non-Soviets. Why Sleepy-Joe stopped our oil industry I can't fathom but it does confirm he is mentally unfit.
Wat is going on lololol, dis vid is abt an electric motor not abt government crap
This just proves how Koenigsegg is ahead of its competitors
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@@alunesh12345 random?
Cup holders in a super car?! They are breaking new ground.
@@alunesh12345 nah
@@alunesh12345 go away with your spam of your imagionaire friend. go see a psychiatrist
I'd love to adapt one of these to my mobility scooter.
Along with tank type treads, this should go just about anywhere.
mobility scooter from hell
This will be a big player and an influence in the automotive industry as a whole, i can't wait to see how this tech evolves in the coming ten to twenty years.
Depends on the patents
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@@alunesh12345 nah
@@alunesh12345 screw god
Yes but nobody has been able to come up with where all the electricity to charge all these vehicles is going to come from.
It actually has 2100 hp, but the power is split throughout the speed. In other words, it has 2 electric engines that assist TFG from 0 to 200 km/h and 2 other electric motors that assist the TFG from 200 to 400 km/h (not exactly this but I made it simple. I didn’t talk about the Direct Drive that has its own electric motor and stuff. Just wanted to say it’s more complicated than that). And the same goes for the torque.
please continue....huge fan of your teams innovations. very exciting application to many many different regimes/purposes.
I am excited about something like this for farm equipment/tractor/excavator. The weight issue is not a priority and is in fact counter to speed and performance. So a rather large battery bank would work nicely to create the mass necessary for many different industrial and agricultural applications.
please link up with kubota and yanmar. Please!
Thats incredible! Thanks for clearing that up. Looking at your user name, I think I can trust the source. 😁
På andra sidan av plånboksnivån skulle en 4 hp bil med en motor på varje hjul stor som en 1948 års hundkoja funka? Då rekommenderar jag kontakta Geely! Jag tror att en utvecklad lågbudget motor av detta slag kan revolutionera EV marknaden! Att byta fyra hjul sätta in ett batteripaket på några kilowatt och en EV är skapad! Waaoow
Bring one to Australia.
@@tdmmcl1532 lol
I also really want them to release their Freevalve system so older cars can be much more efficient for gas, emissions, weight, and HP.
cool pixel art pfp
Lookup free valve Miata
I think that would be so cool. Perhaps adapted to use bio fuel or hydrogen? Perhaps make it greener? I think your idea has potential.
@@logi-operations ty!
@@JooseyJay I Have. imagine that with proper tuning and released professionally for more vehicles.
Would be hilarious if Koenigsegg released their electric motor setup for hobbyists just to throw mud in Tesla's face.
Wow, that size is amazing. For years I have been looking for an electric motor that has a bit more punch in a smaller package. That power is well above what I need, I hope in the future someone takes the tech and makes smaller electric motors for other applications.
same i want one for my Datsun b210 wagon the original engine is slap worn out and parts are already to hard to find for it so might as well turn it electric
I've been bragging about this for a year now. It's going to game changing if it's tech trickles down to us normies before combustion is completely gone, the synergy between the two different power sources has got to be one of the best mechanical team ups ever created :D
Wow it's so cool to meet one of the engineers who designed this!
@@showmeanedge he didn't design it? He said he hopes the tech "trickles down to us normies"
@@SoulDelSol he said he was bragging about it. That implies he had something to do with it.
@@showmeanedge figured that's where you got thrown off. That's no different than a teen boy bragging about specs of the new Xbox system he just read about online to some of his friends who hadn't yet heard about it. That's what he meant. Again read rest of his post. Also note the pfp is just "the dude"
Why does everyone always assume combustion is going away? It’s not gunna disappear unless governments ban it outright.
Nice to see Koenigsegg are near the top of EV powerplant development as well as ICE
Near? They just put Tesla and all other motor makers at least 10 years behind. Keonigsegg's MO just pushing tech.
@@DocWolph Tesla 10 years behind? Hmmmm doubt it
@@relansis6962
10 years is fair, considering they took the better part of a decade to develop the motors and inverters for the Plaid at that was just squeezing what they could out of radial flux motors.
Again, Keonigsegg's MO (Modus Operandi), is pushing the tech. If it can be made better, then how and then do it. "Solving the problem." Tesla mostly feels like (hopefully not actually the case) they are pushing tech for bragging rights (clout), not to actually solve a problem.
Once Keonigsegg gets deep into BEVs, Tesla is going to be falling behind. Tesla will still be richer, but not better.
And... Keonigsegg got the Regera and then the Gamera built first. It is immaterial how many they built (88 Regeras, 3 Gameras planned) they have the tech done and ready to license now, much like "Freevalve".
And Tesla still does not do crate motors. All those projects not by Tesla using Tesla motors, are from wrecked Teslas. Ford does crate motors, and you know GM is looking at it seriously.
@@DocWolph Lets see how this ages
@@relansis6962
Just make [sure] you are playing attention as they age. So many will watch Tesla or Ford or GM or... or... or... and ignore [smaller players like] Keonigsegg.
Koenigsegg is on the cutting edge. I can't think of any other current car manufacturers doing stuff like this. 8 cup holders, too!
I have an equation for you to consider:
aT + 8(CH) = _vol_ SD
All that torque they are advertising plus all those cup holders equals a lot of spilled drinks….
they are cutting edge but their prices are insane, what really is even more brilliant is tesla, for like 90k you get the fastest and quickest production sedan or suv which also happen to be the 4 safest production cars in the world
Rimac.. Rimac which makes some parts for Koenisgegg too
1.5 million dollar+ super car, that comes with 1700 hp, and 8 cup holders.
They’re already ahead of the game the have that many cup holders, having cup holders in a super car is just a straight flex
Peltier cupholders so 1 warm and 1 cold cupholder per seat.
Porsche would charge you to remove them though. ;-)
@@glennewdick my porsche didnt come with cup holders cuz race core
it's a bit sad that the F1 power units are so strictly regulated cause I'd love to see such engines in the back of the F1 cars
I believe electric is banned from F1.. but not sure
Regulated is what the "Formula" means.
@@vicvega8986 no its there but not in a all wheel drive method. I would say its similar to how you see konigsegg show that block from the gemera engine with the electric motor.
full electric f1 is not allowed as Formula E has the rights until a few more years(i forgot which year)
Experimental Classification could be used on any vehicle. Why not a Formula 1.? Send the idea to one of the race teams. What's the worst that can happen is that they say no. A positive is that they will take it under serious consideration or Yes.
I want one for my next Honda Ruckus build...
Pretty sure they didn't make the motor. It's a derivative of the YASA Yokeless motor. Ask me how I know, I was tasked with designing a GT car that would use two of those in the rear for torque steering as well as a 1.2 ICE engine upfront. The thing was (voluntarily) transmission-limited to 220 kph but could get there in about 8sec (traction was the main limitation). The insane torque you can get from those was a real problem though, designing a gear train able to take that much torque made me use a custom herringbone planetary gearing, the side thrust on the bearing and casing was just too much to handle for anything we could realistically put in an aluminium casing.
What car did you design?
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@@bolt5564 We were supposed to present it to the Salon de L'automobile 2020 but of course there was a small problem called coronavirus. Check the 2022 edition, watch for a GT car 2+2 with a carbon fiber subframe, a 1.2 THP engine upfront connected to an 8 speed automatic gearbox. There will be two YASA P400 connected to each of the rear wheel on a quick disconnect system I designed (the whole rear powertrains drops without the need to unbolt the rear subframe).
Same motor in the jag c-x75 um yeah I think it is
As someone not an insider to that area, is Yasa like a different company and keonigsegg just licensed usage of their motors whereas tesla actually created their own motors?
This is very exciting but I think battery is still the main problem for use in small UTVs also made for everyday use, where it could be best used
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@@alunesh12345 nah
I don't know why people keep comparing the weight of electric motors to ICEs, it's a completely moot point unless you intend to plug that motor up to the mains.
The weight of the motors in an electric car is pretty much irrelevant, the problem is always the batteries.
true, although it's great to hear that the weight of electric motor can be lowered. As batteries become more energy dense their weight is also lowered. You can't lower the weight of fuel and it's difficult to improve the gasoline engine even more. I don't think that the weight of electric vehicles will ever get lower than that of cars with an ICE engine, but I'm sure that it will get close to it.
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@@alunesh12345 nah
@@alunesh12345 How would you know that Hell isn't fun? Sounds like all the fun people are there.
@@dxpehat7682 I think we're close to the physical limitations of current battery technology. It would take something very different to improve battery energy density substantially, one possibility being metal-air batteries which completely remove the cathode from the battery so could potentially be much ligher but those are still in very early stages.
But the weight of EVs is something that only car enthusiats really care about anyway. Most people don't know or care about a car's weight as long as it drives alright. The more important factor is cost, batteries are still very expensive and if a new superior battery technology comes out it's unlikely it'll be cheaper at least until several years into production.
The irony of electric cars is that a lot of people want them because they don't want to waste money on fuel, but can't afford one.
This engine needs to be put into a motorcycle!!
How can we get Christian Von Konigsegg to do just that. This would be absolutely amazing!!
Put 4 of these in a car ...one on each tire. Instant 1300+ HP directly to the tires. No noise either, super freaky lol.
Those Tesla Type S cars are insanely fast and the really creepy part is how quiet it is as it accelerates to those crazy speeds!
Direct all wheel drive......
It's not quiet at speed. The tires slapping the ground and the vehicle punching a hole in the wind is actually pretty loud. Listen to them racing up Pike's peak. Not very quiet at all. Those electric motors sing a different tune.
It's significant to me in that it can be scaled. But I'm not sure in a horsepower to kilogram comparison, they exceeded Tesla. I didn't think the motors would be such a focus of development, but I'm glad they are. I really want to see easy retrofit kits for existing vehicles, and small packages certainly help with that.
What? A DIY solution that means ANYONE could have a low flying rocketship??? Somehow I don't think that's quite what they meant.
@@transtubular If they want everyone to convert to electric drive, they have to come up with a cheap and drop in plug and play system. most people can't afford to spend an extra $500 much less a $30,000-50,000 electric car.
A $7,000-10,000 drop in conversion? maybe.
Scaling limit in EVs isn't the motor or it's weight, it's the batteries. An EV will ultimately weigh more at the curb as a similar ICE vehicle with a full tank of gas and have significantly less range. Currently there really isn't a way around this as max energy density of batteries is no where near as dense as combustible fuel. I believe the same is true for even fuel cells
@@ProgrammerWithoutAName Pretty much this.
It's why claims of the Tesla Semi Truck are looked at with a skeptical view.
It's also why I think a Diesel Electric Semi would be more logical.
One car is $2.5M - the other is less than $150K.
i'd like to add that an electric motor power rating is it's peak power that can be maintained for about a minute. In the case of this motor, it's about 20seconds peak power. The nominal or continues power is between 30-50% of it's peak power. as for this engine it's 100KW or 136hp(40% peak) as it's continues power. None the less it's amazing that this little thing can perform the way it does.
source: motor authority Koenigsegg's electric motor
If it takes 2 secs to accelerate the car to 100 km/h, I can live with that limitation.
Whether electrically produced or mechanical, horsepower is an expression of work done over time. The definition of 1 HP is the ability to lift 33,000 lbs. 1 foot in 1 minute, where 2 HP has the ability to lift 66,000 lbs. 1 foot in 1 minute, and so on. The term 'horsepower' is used because when the first automobiles were produced, there was nothing to compare them to, other than the everyday utility of the time called: the horse. The rest is history.
“Yeah I drive a 3 cylinder hybrid”
Could this motor be used as a hub motor on a motorcycle? If so, you could put batteries in the section of the bike that normally holds the engine.
Holy shit that would not be safe, that's enough torque to instantly flip you backwards. even with the batteries.
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp Definitely would need intense tuning to prevent that.
@@carlangelo653 Its just too much, they should make like 120hp e-motor for motorcycles
@Radiator Dash Why not?
@Radiator Dash No speed is too fast for me.
if anyone is more in this topic, rotational and axial flux motors are essentially induction and reluctance motor and the raxial motor is just a hybrid between both which allows it to have a very good power to rpm curve based on the firmware controling the magnetic field. It's really fascinating stuff!
That's not correct. Axial and radial flux refer to the direction of the vector perpendicular to the gap between the rotor and stator relative to the axis of rotation. In radial flux, that direction is (all) radii of the cylindrical gap. In an actual flux motors that direction is parallel with the axis of rotation.
It's a very impressive motor, but comparing it to the weight of a BMW gas engine is misleading until you factor in the weight of fuel: batteries vs. gasoline.
Efficiency is where you win compared to the ice
@@GoldenEDM_2018 I do not know where you get your information from but ICEs are much more efficient than you just said, Toyota’s ICE (which one can buy at a reasonably price) is around 36-38% efficient including the gearbox, F1 cars presumably would have a thermal efficiency of nearly 50% with the gearbox while the engine efficiency is around 52%.
Koenigsegg free valve can make +50% efficient engines.
I know they are not very efficient, but modern ones are much more efficient than you might think
Large marine diesels can also reach around 50% thermal efficiency
@@GoldenEDM_2018 How do you think fuel is turned into kinetic energy......by being burned.
@@GoldenEDM_2018 you do know thats related right?? lmao unused energy in fossil fuel is lost as heat..
@Daniel Vipin "If battery tech improves dramatically, things like these will be possible." Batteries need to store at least 10 times more energy per weight unit to be a solution. It took 70 years to increase battery storage capacity four times.
that picture of C.V.K at 4:25 might be the scariest picture i've ever seen of him💀😂
While these cars' power figures are insane, what I'm more interested to see is the application of this tech to smaller (and more reasonable) applications. Imagine this tech, pared down to a third of the size of these motors, with one at each wheel of a GTI or Honda hatchback, priced at $35k. THAT will be a game changer.
Exactly! Or scale it down to 120HP on a motorcycle, or 20HP in an e-bike.
You don't need 20hp in an e bike. 1hp will turn anyone into a drugged up Lance Armstrong.
@@colinmacdonald5732 True, but neither do you need 750hp on a car.
@@Bob_Adkins nobody wants a 120hp motorcycle, they are already 200+ hp production bikes
@@Bob_Adkins now a 20 hp e bikes a diffrebt story😁
this is so cool, cant wait when there is an affordable small electric motor on the market you can buy for cars
I can't wait to put this on my LAWN MOWER. Imagine 330 HP lawn mower.
0 to 1 acre in 60 Seconds
Like the Home Improvement show where they put a gas turbine in a riding lawnmower? It was funny.
Yes that would be funny.A cop sees a lawn mower going about 200 miles an hour,calls headquarters,captain i just clocked a lawn mower going 200 miles an hour,officer smith i need to see you back at the police station right now..
Woah, that's an acre per minute.
Heli-mower🤔
You'd need a heppa-filtered grass-, sorry, dust catcher.
I want a de-tuned version of this on my motorcycle. Once they cheapen range guarantees, my heart is sold.
I can’t imagine how badly my dreams will be dashed by the pricing of the drive and inverter kit
I can imagine a 1100+ hp car with one motor on each wheel
It already exists. Rimac Nevera
Imagine the possability of a bolt on kit that would turn any car into 600+ hp electric and potential 1200+ if you have room or willing to slightly modefy the vehicle. If it came with the electronic computer and battery pack(s) then it may not be that difficult to swap
1000 per wheel would be insane!!!
There is a Japanese limo with eight wheels, each with its own motor. This would make it insanely fast. Right motors producing three hundred horsepower each would be mind boggling fast.
Imagine this in a GR86 sized car weighing under a ton🥵
I’ll do you one better, mazda mx-5 miata
@@dmglolmasterplays3353 that was a good one XD
@@dmglolmasterplays3353 no
Imagine this in a motorcycle
@@0sus Don’t deny it, you love the idea of a 660hp electric miata.
Every time I watch a video about Koenigsegg I realise how much of a massive fan of the guy I am. He just keeps coming up with awesome stuff and builds it all in house.
Koenigsegg feels to me like a guy who's going "I want that thing but it doesn't exist so I'm going diy" but he has multiple million dollars to throw at it.
You forgot to mention the bulky and heavy batteries needed to make the quark motor really work at 330 hp.
Here's an idea, perhaps with the torque converter removed this motor might fit in the bell housing of my classic V8 thus keeping the engine.
Under bonnet it would still look original but with the economy of electric for every day use. The best I ever got from the V8 was 12 mpg
I have been thinking the same thing about my Jeep. Keep the old inline 6, turn it into a hybrid with an electric motor sandwiched between the ICE and Gearbox.
Just to think the 190hp 4.0 gets barely 100hp to the wheels, just a little extra power is more than enough.
But why drag around all that extra weight of an unused ice engine?
there are already options available, check out some sema shows, plenty of people selling conversion kits
I was thinking something very simular. I drive a large SUV for my family of 6. Sliding this in between the motor and trans, or shortening the driveshaft and bolting it up behind the transmission. This would allow people like myself that can't afford to run out and buy an all electric to improve their mileage. Plus a!low them to get a feel for electric without a huge investment. It would also reduce a lot of the wear and tear on the drive train if its only used for speeds below 25.
Ingenious and practical engineering! Sleek and sporty design! Lightweight carbon fiber body and interior !
1700 HP/248MPH - 400 KMs
Honestly I hope the concept picks up on other electric cars or gets patented/outsourced bcs one of those units would be enough for a cheap small car in terms of power. We can also factor in the idea that they could be pretty energy efficient if limited to around 30% power. My dad's car is like 2 years old and doesn't have over 150hp.
An ensemble of more similar self sufficient parts working together would be made out of units. A normal engine's parts are nothing more than it's parts. A propulsion system that uses 4 similar engines that could work standalone basically has 4 units. You can use it interchangeably for any system that uses more of the same piece/subsystem in an array of some kind
So a Jeep 4.0L I-6 makes maybe 100hp to the wheels. Wouldn't sandwiching a motor smaller than 330hp, say just 100-150hp (or torque), between ICE & gearbox be a cost effective solution to add power&efficiency in existing cars?
Electrical motors are already more than 90% efficient; so no big gains possible there.
Can it be scaled down? Like, 100hp at a third or half the size? And does the torque specs scale with it?
If so, that tech is brilliant. Pair it with Toyotas solid state batteries and perovskite solar cells and electric cars should be even lighter than current petrol cars and won’t need to stop for recharging.
Or 10 times smaller, great idea!
Just think of the amazing cars you could build at home with a power plant this small! You don’t need a transmission, just a differential with a final drive ratio that works for your top speed of choice. Batteries and motor esc, or motor controller system. Once you’ve got that it’s all about packaging and charging. I can’t remember if it’s AEM or someone else but I know someone’s more notable company has already made standalone units that can control the Tesla control units that control the Tesla motors. So if they can be adapted to run a Tesla motor by bypassing their over the air updates and locked out system, then they could definitely run this motor and you’d have a fully functioning car with as many electronic add ins as you want or need. Power windows, locks, power steering, headlights, indicators, taillights, accessories etc. The possibilities are endless. You can choose any car essentially and decide to go electric and it would be a huge amount of fun thanks to how tiny this power plant is but also remarkably powerful for its compact size.
you dont need any of that shit, just make the motor the wheel
@JUDASFINKELSTEIN Does your toilet not flush ? Might be the better question after such a long drive.
@@Blox117 bolted to some planetery gears
openinverter makes a controller board that's a drop-in replacement for the p90d and earlier/lower-model tesla S/X drive units..
If Koenigsegg could mass produce these, they would be revolutionary. Smaller and more powerful than a rotary, light as hell, and even damn near small enough to put inside a wheel itself.
If only this tech was invented like 20 years ago
It would be beyond awesome if koenigsegg sold these motors as parts for people to buy to make project cars with. Depending on how they price them and the volume they can produce them, they could definitely make a healthy profit of selling the motors alone
Yamaha has a similar one
!!!Oh HELL YES!!!
The Gemera needs to happen 10 million times over.
Also the Koenigsegg turbo 3 cyl variable cam engine is another example of incredible genius.
I would love to see their 3 cylinder engine in a replica of the Chrysler M5S turbocharged car (the Wraith car). It was designed to do more with less. Like the 3 cylinder engine.
Could this be the motor of the future? Sounds amazing. Imagine one motor on each wheel.
Painfully quick acceleration. 😳 you could fit it on a bicycle.. oof.
lets be honest just imagine the Hyper-cheap small cars the Quark could enable once the tech comes down in price
I spit out my drink and laughed a little bit more than I should at 00:34 . I genuinely don't know why that's so funny
Koenigsegg would be a manufacturer that fits perfectly in F1, especially with their crazy engine designs
They don't allow much innovation in F1 bud, it's basically spec racing
@@danielbrealey2924 F1 is the source of most of the advancements made in ICE technology over the last 30 years. Where do you think variable valve, variable intake length, DOHC, traction control, ABS, reactive surfaces, reactive suspension, carbon fibre, flap-paddle shifting, etc etc etc originated?
F1 is _constant_ R&D for the slightest fraction of an advantage.
@@masondegaulle5731 I'm aware, but it's also very heavily regulated. Just like most other forms of racing these days, it's become spec racing. Your not really allowed to think outside the box or other teams will try and have you disqualified... They all have to do something together or not at all it seems of the last 3 - 4 decades
@@danielbrealey2924 Yea shame they banned active suspention, would have been great if that was more actively developed.
Put a pair of these into a cappucino or an az-1 and you've got yourself a tiny Viper-class deathwish mobile
Company’s that are develops this kinda tech need to offer them as a crate style motor. I’d happily stick one of these units in my car but I bet they won’t offer it up to the general public and would be an absurd price
I thought the same while watching this. The M5 e60 is my dream car, and I think it would be amazing to put one of these on it to compensate for the outdated power 🔥.
@@BrunoGDC I’m currently rebuilding a mk2 Toyota Mr2 this in the engine bay would be insane!
The issue is that your engine is complete, just add fuel. For a motor, you need to decide how many batteries and what kind of batteries, making the motor literally negligible in terms of weight and cost.
@@theashenfox oh yea 100% but I think of people like this offered crate motors with those combined electric motors and control units atleast buying battery packs etc would ease the design process
Me who owns a 420hp car and reads the video title: 🙃
If only someone could build a decent size six passenger sedan with this technology so we could get away from small cars and giant SUVs that would be great.
Closest thing is a tesla model y with the thrid row package
I would be great if they can make a battery that small! 300hp still takes a lot of volts and amps.
No, they need to get away from the whole battery concept and focus on direct energy harnessing. Storing battery is absolute tech-medieval. It only really makes sense for small amounts of electricity but even that should soon be replaced with high power capacitors. They age a lot better than batteries due to their nature of getting constantly charged and discharged and are a lot better suited for that. But other than that, energy must be sourced directly. The battery concept definitely outlived itself.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 What's your alternative to batteries? Capacitors don't yet have the needed density.
@@JorenMathews Maybe he wants to get power directly from the road??
Never mind that that would make for a road that was 5-10 times more expensive to built and would take decades maybe even a century to build
"The battery concept" lol!
Yeah, let's forget about improving the technology. The "concept" is obsolete! Lol!
That's gotta come in handy when he's looking to buy stock! lololol!!
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 sourced directly from what?
Well, at 85 kilos it is almost as light as the BMW V10 F1 engine from 2005. But it had close to 1000hp and was slightly larger too.
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If this could be miniaturized you could have 20KW on each hub, powered by a serial hybrid, Obrist ZVG, super compact battery. No drive shafts to worry about.
That'd be awesome
That is an absolutely brilliant motor design and the weight figures are astonishing. But I do wonder if we will see this in higher numbers any time soon or even within the decade. It is not just that "They simply do it better" but also that Koenigsegg can get away with using madly expensive materials, loads of manual labour and having each drive unit individualy tested by a team of engineers.
So what interests me is if this can be properly industrialised. If so, it could probably shave off 50 or more kilos off most BEVs, which would be a very welcome improvement. Not to mention the space savings.
I wrote my bachelor thesis on electric helicopters… electric engines are much more power dense since years, but when you add the energy supply to the equation they become just comparable with combustion engines. And if I remember well, they have a THIRD of the autonomy, (surely less then a half). World will change when a different electric energy storage technology will come out.
"a THIRD of the autonomy" ?
Was 'autonomy' the word you meant to type, and if so could you expand upon that please? That's not a usage of that word with which I am familiar.
@@CyberiusT same
@@CyberiusT he just means range.
It's funny I actually "nod" when you asked "you keeping up?" LOL
"I know we shouldn't compare a combustion engine to an electric motor" Kind of funny considering both are marketed by how many horses they replace lol
Crazy power out of a motor that size, wonder if the controller for it is more complex.
You could pair this engine with any conventional combustion engine and transform any vehicle, amazing!
not so..you people are so fkn branwashed. lets go green save the panet.. sorry,,it,ll never happen..the sun sasy so.. billions could of allready been saved, if every engine, was converted to lpg. the tech is there, nothing new needed. with higher compression, its more powerfull & hell clean..ev,s are bs tech.. waste of brain cells..
yes electric motors are lighter but the whole battery pack that comes with it are much heavier than an ice at the moment
Everybody: oOoOoOoOhhh lets put it into supercars!!!
Me: *LAWNMOWERS*
Id love to see the quark in a high end motorcycle, maybe from brabus or bimota, newer ultra high quality manufacturers
I'd be interested in a comparison between this motor and the motors developed by Lucid which includes the motors and inverters. They seem very very similar.
Yamaha glad also developed a very small electric motor that is scalable and around the same size. It would be me if you could look into the number of new electric motor techs that are out there besides one that is so unattainable.
If engineers can get this thing to fit inside the wheels of a car, imagine the sheer internal volume it'll free up and also having each wheel have 300+ horsepower, would make for an amazing electric car.
Yes, we can make all these nice things. The limiting factor is only ourself. Politics, money, greed, love & fear.
Unsprung weight is bad, really bad. Another 30kg is REALLY much for modern suspensions, you will end up with an even worse handling EV.
@@xXYannuschXx Also big problem if one motor fails at high speed , violent reaction into barrier or oncoming traffic
Only problem is unsprung weight.
the other problem is, BATTERIES are not exactly lightweight items either...
That duckling in the beginning made me laugh hysterically.
If it's that powerful and light enough, then technically you can make a small aircraft out of that that can hold up a human right, like a hover craft vehicle without needing insane levels of energy.
Forget the fastest wheeled cars with each motor being powered by it, but imagine the propeller used to transfer air and propulsion since they are quite lightweight?
Basically a drone that can hold 4 people
They already have electric drones and are working on electric planes so. I believe it’ll happen
I feel dumb, when I read the thumbnail I immediately thought "health points" instead of "horse power". I need to go outside -_-
I wonder how you will feel when you realize HP in games stands for hit points
@@belgiumarthur usually they mean the same thing
Super impressive.
I wonder of these kinds of motors can be modified for naval warships such as existing Arleigh Burke (and make up for the deleteriously, astoundingly insufficient main engine room space that prevented the Flights 1->2A getting the Grumman Advanced Hybrid Drive (AHDS) motors) to turn accessory drive, to turn the shafts on the reduction gear, or on other gears attached to the propeller shafts.
These motors seem so small they could be attached in places not even available to the AHDS, depending on engineering considerations.if scaled up, I imagine they could handle 1,000 hp which would be good for a few knots.
I can't even imagine my grandmother's electric scooter with the Quark motor installed. BYE GRANDMA!!!!
It's not continuous power it's Peak power for a limited amount of time as they over heat very fast
The Gemera is gorgeous, Koenigsegg is probably my favorite super/hypercar maker. That’s insane that little motor makes that much hp
I would like to see this be sold as a crate motor.
Totally agree I would love one of these in my Skoda Octavia
Ford did have that electric crate motor
I bought one of these for my niece's Barbie Jeep. Haven't seen her since.
Koenigsegg always seem to do things smarter, more compact, more powerful and more reliable than anyone else can get even close to. Amazing company
Just one small problem with these motors they may be tiny but the battery packs to supply them are huge. Also currently we don't even have all our houses, buildings, streetlights, Etc on Renewable Power so in the end in a lot of regions you be switching one carbon source to another.
Amazing size efficiency, but what about electric consumption efficiency? In a car like a Koenigsegg, range is probably not a factor since it's a hybrid. But range is the biggest factor in everyday driving all electrics. We would need to see if that motor design would be a convenient port to the all electric car industry.
The electric motor has not been a problem for decades--it's better than a combustion engine in all respects. The difficulty is batteries. Compared to combustible fuel, fully-charged batteries hold a puny amount of energy per weight and volume. There's no solution for this on the horizon.
@@grasonicus I agree, I am referring to how this new design compares to electric motors currently in use in commercial vehicles. Since it's size is much smaller, but outputs great power, I wonder if the electric consumption efficiency might be sacrificed for size efficiency.
The weight reference list was amazing 😂😂
That duck was legit funny
I know the EV motor mentioned in this video is lightweight and for the size and weight puts out a lot of horsepower and torque according to what is said here. I know the gasoline combustion engine counterpart being discussed in the video has comparable horsepower and slightly less torque while being considerably bigger and heavier. Sure makes you think of a underachiever. But when you weigh in the battery pack required for the Electric Motor to operate , would you lose the gains mentioned here in compared to the gasoline combustion engine? Especially if one takes account energy density of the battery pack versus gasoline energy density stored in fossil fuel while also considering the weight of gasoline once you fill up the tank. Which one actually weighs more and which one would win this competition compared to horsepower and torque output. I would also think one would need to take in account which one has more usable energy. I'm not a genius in this field, nor do I claim to be. I'm really not sure, I'm just curious. To the ones out there that know more than I do please help me understand better.
But you can take so much shit out of the car because you don’t have to have the engine and transmission or the alternator.
I was listening for the type any amp hour batteries needed for this kind of set up but it was not mentioned or what kind of charge system is used to charge the batteries. All of these thing have to be known before any one can make any kind of decision on this car or these motors.
@@charlesreohr6236 I emailed them looking for a price. They said they don't have one yet. They don't have a lot of info on this motor. They said 6 months.
@@charlesreohr6236 Yeah the power requirement dictate the size and weight of the battery. Kinda pointless to have a 2,000hp car that can only go 90 miles.
@@linusa2996 That would be a really quick trip for something that would probably take 24 hrs. to charge.
Hmm 330 hp for such motor sounds amazing but how long can it make such power
Also a motor system like that could possibly be licensed out to public transport vehicle manufacturers like Bombardier, Semens and Alstom so the motors could be used on electric mass transit vehicles and possibly high speed trains! :)
As I recall, when wiring hobby electric motors (1970's), one wiring system was called "series", while the other wiring system was called "shunted". A motor with "shunted" wiring had more power--less speed, while the "series" motor had more speed--less power. The idea of combining the two types of wiring systems is old news.
Has the "power" of this motor been independently been verified? Maybe it's also a perpetual motion machine, and a transporter from the starship Enterprise.
I see a few people pointing out that the power draw is insane. This is definitely one of those theory over substance things
@@loztagain8278 yeah. In my experience, when claims of outrageous performance in the real world are presented to you without evidence that can be verified, they probably are false.
The real question here is how durable is it under extreme temperature variations
Its an electric motor, they virtually never break, and have literally 1 moving part, you’re thinking of the battery, if you’re going to be a hater at least have a basic fucking education in what your hating on
@@vitsadelhole lol. One completely valid question promoted this irrational emotional response from you. How sad. Get help.
I wonder how well this would do in a multiple unit high speed train. Would it last 2 million miles plus I wonder.
I don't think the torque would be very good. And trains need very good starting torque. Perhaps a hybrid design where conventional high-torque motors are used when starting but at high speeds it switches to the high-speed motors. The amount of torque this motor can produce is only "443 nm" according to the video, but a typical train could do 40,000nm of torque depending on the type of train!
You, you keeping up!😂😂😂
Yes is small and powerful but what about it's efficiency? Which definitely affects battery range.
Combining these with an engine that uses hydrogen rather than gasoline to generate electricity could be a viable option to cut vehicle pollution levels over time.
I think a hydrogen battery hybrid could work, in my opinion.
i watched a video about the company stress testing a Koenigsegg hitting it with a hammer flying over speed bumps rear ending other cars. They are actually really freaking sturdy!!
Imagine one of these in a Chevy Metro.
“Same length as a sandwich with a length of 1ft”
Incredible
Koenigsegg's otherworldly technologies are the kind of stuff that keeps me awake at night.
They need to start licensing out their technologies.
The first company that actually offers a wide assortment of "bolt-on" aftermarket electric axle/wheelretrofit kits... will rake in trillions!
A Seimens Emrax 348 electrical motor, that is 348 mm in diameter, put out 509 H.P. and 738 ft. lbs of torque at peak power. It's maximum rpm is 4500. It only weighs 42 kilograms. These motors can be stacked together like a roll of coins. They are liquid cooled. They are also the most powerful electric motor power to weight ratio.
Siemens and Emrax are separate companies with their own motor designs. "348" is an Emrax model - nothing to do with Siemens.