I love how this movie had such an original idea about time travel. Seeing the looper mark suddenly appear only to be shot instantly is a great way to grab the audience’s attention.
When you think Hollywood is reduced to using the same basic plots over and over again, remember this one as one of the most original stories they came out with in a long time.
Strangest thing was how Gordon Levitt has almost dark italian features trying to look like Bruce Willis who looked more like luke skywalker in his younger years...makeup was bizarre
At the time when he came to the realisation of his inadvertent role in the whole chain of events, he decided to take himself out of the equation. Because his present self would become the future self. Even if he now knows, in the few seconds he had to make a decision, his future self is still about to kill the mother and the child would escape anyway to become the criminal boss. His older self will do anything to save his wife. There are quite a few plot holes that remain but he knew that the events would play out the same.
Obviously it was truncated in the edit. You see the whole thing from a distance at the end of this clip. You'd be surprised how quick somebody can close the distance when it's life or death, lol
There is no logical answer to your question, because time travel is impossible. For example, at then end Bruce Willis disappears, but we are still left with all the past effects he had on the world, even though he never existed. The film doesn't really make any sense if you think about it.
@@unblessedcoffee1457dont be so sure. Time travel into the future is 100%possible. You have no reason to believe time travel into the past is "impossible". Everything you see happened "in the past".
He would have lived his life to the point where he was still alive after 30 years and they could capture him to send him into the past and close the loop. If he had died before that, the past self wouldn't need to wait for his future self to be sent back - the future self would already be dead at some point. So essentially these loopers either get killed during their looper days, or they get their reitrement and live for at least 30 years. They they get captured and sent back with the gold to the past self to close the loop. Plot holes aside, that is the story.
Saved up all that silver and gold, then burned through it in 6 years on partying and drugs. For being conservative and patient with his money, he managed it pretty poorly. Should have invested some of it into hair loss.
That's kind of meant to be the point. Closing his loop began his downward spiral and led him into a life that was only done to keep the lifestyle that he created for himself. It was after he met the love of his life that he found new meaning in life. No longer living fast and for himself. He began to live for someone else. Though it's a tragedy that it took him 25 years of the 30 he had to reach that point. That's why I like that whole scene, really does go to show how much he wasted his life being young, stupid and selfish.
@alexshank1414 EASY. When you start with nothing, you skrimp and save to earn that wealth (Old Bruce Willis). When you start rich, then you think you don’t need to save. You just party it away (young Bruce). It’s a basic human failing that repeats itself thru history .
Because quantum uncertainty means things can change with every loop. Every time they do something that manipulates the past, like sending someone to get deleted, a new loop occurs, for all the loopers, only they don't realize it, because time has been altered. In the "first" loop, Joe's life was slightly different...maybe he never met the woman, maybe he did and they didn't kill her, but for whatever reason, circumstances lead to her being killed, and that's what made Joe fight back. They explain it in the one scene where he gets him to rat on his friend, that the future itself is fuzzy and uncertain. It's like groundhog day, except slight difference on each reset due to quantum uncertainty. Most of the time the differences are too small to matter, but sometimes they make for big changes, and that's what happened with Joe. It's basically a side effect of the nature of the universe, and why time travel was soo dangerous, because of all the weird ripples it could cause.
Young Joe is young but he's just an executioner, he lacks both the strength and the smarts. Old Joe is a hardened criminal who has performed multiple hits, armed robberies, and bar fights.
@@SimonKnight1023 If old joe was killed by young joe the first time around what causes the timeline to change that means the next time around old joe does things differently. The timeline is either set or it isn't, the plot changes between the two with no explanation. The plot jumps around with the different potential effects of time travel in order to move the plot forward
@@SimonKnight1023 yes. It works if there are divergent timelines but the entire premise of the film, including the name - is a loop. The story has both events that affect the future time travellers occurring in the present (the surgery on Seth) AND divergent timelines (such as two different outcomes for old Joe, escaping or dying from being shot) The rules of time travel are all over the place They try to explain it away with memory loss and the whole 'its confusing' explanation in the diner, but the fundamental rules have to stay the same for the audience. The characters perception is unimportant, unless the film is setting up people as unreliable narrators - which it does not
@@chrispekel5709 It works in the sense that the second joe that killed Old Joe 1 remembered closing his loop through his timeline the first Old Joe killed never closed his loop since he was Joe Prime. Second Old Joe wasn't going to Live through the same timeline the Old Joe Prime lived through. Changing Joe 3 future by sabotaging the Loop Plan.
I love how this movie had such an original idea about time travel. Seeing the looper mark suddenly appear only to be shot instantly is a great way to grab the audience’s attention.
When you think Hollywood is reduced to using the same basic plots over and over again, remember this one as one of the most original stories they came out with in a long time.
Its great provided you don't think hard as it makes no sense really
@@chrispekel5709 Time travel gets nonsensical and paradoxical if you start thinking about it too hard.
Hollywood took the guy who wrote and directed this and turned him into the guy who made The Last Jedi.
@@jonpaul6948 they're very similar..original in many ways but full of story elements that make no sense.
Totally and utterly devoid of logic, but yes.
This was such a good film. I have to rewatch it now.
Strangest thing was how Gordon Levitt has almost dark italian features trying to look like Bruce Willis who looked more like luke skywalker in his younger years...makeup was bizarre
I think they changed one of their noses prosthetically to look more alike.
Now this is a multiverse story
Except when it isn't. Ryan Johnson is very creative but he isn't logical. The time travel rules keep changing in this film
@@chrispekel5709this comment is so stupid 😂 but it’s ok. Not everyone understands fiction
What would have happen if he choose to just help the boy and stay with his mom? Would that break this time loop, also?
At the time when he came to the realisation of his inadvertent role in the whole chain of events, he decided to take himself out of the equation. Because his present self would become the future self. Even if he now knows, in the few seconds he had to make a decision, his future self is still about to kill the mother and the child would escape anyway to become the criminal boss. His older self will do anything to save his wife. There are quite a few plot holes that remain but he knew that the events would play out the same.
I wonder why the Joe before both of them didn't go back.
I don’t no 😮😮😮😮😮
Notice there was still a delay. I guess both of them fought their captors but Old Joe succeeded and Older Joe? didn't.
Bro must've turned into the flash after throwing that gold lol
Obviously it was truncated in the edit. You see the whole thing from a distance at the end of this clip.
You'd be surprised how quick somebody can close the distance when it's life or death, lol
@@BilliamBuseyreally old guy gets up from laying down and closes 15ft because writing is hard
clearly reading is hard for you@@anubislee36
@@anubislee36 9:37 Looks about normal.
Just thought about this. What happens if you die before your loop is closed ? Not all situations could be predicted (car accident)
There is no logical answer to your question, because time travel is impossible. For example, at then end Bruce Willis disappears, but we are still left with all the past effects he had on the world, even though he never existed. The film doesn't really make any sense if you think about it.
@@unblessedcoffee1457sounds like a Rian Johnson movie alright.
@@unblessedcoffee1457dont be so sure. Time travel into the future is 100%possible. You have no reason to believe time travel into the past is "impossible". Everything you see happened "in the past".
He would have lived his life to the point where he was still alive after 30 years and they could capture him to send him into the past and close the loop. If he had died before that, the past self wouldn't need to wait for his future self to be sent back - the future self would already be dead at some point. So essentially these loopers either get killed during their looper days, or they get their reitrement and live for at least 30 years. They they get captured and sent back with the gold to the past self to close the loop. Plot holes aside, that is the story.
Every time I try make sense of this film the more it dosent make sense. I don't even want to get into it.
He's got a good face for a kinda neo-noir role. He looks like he belongs in the 1950s.
They need to make a secuel but instead of the bad written "loop" is a SPIRAL, if you know you know
They could make it base on his life as a Chinese hit man and we could see the rain coming to power
In the future I could see Javier Bardem playing my older self. Sounds about right😁
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This ‘ole behemoth was just a cup buried under ice.
Saved up all that silver and gold, then burned through it in 6 years on partying and drugs. For being conservative and patient with his money, he managed it pretty poorly. Should have invested some of it into hair loss.
That's kind of meant to be the point. Closing his loop began his downward spiral and led him into a life that was only done to keep the lifestyle that he created for himself. It was after he met the love of his life that he found new meaning in life.
No longer living fast and for himself. He began to live for someone else.
Though it's a tragedy that it took him 25 years of the 30 he had to reach that point. That's why I like that whole scene, really does go to show how much he wasted his life being young, stupid and selfish.
@@Keeneye47_Wolfkeen Just doesn’t fit the character. For someone who was stern and focused on his “retirement” to turn heel?
@@Keeneye47_Wolfkeen Guess so. People change.
@alexshank1414 EASY. When you start with nothing, you skrimp and save to earn that wealth (Old Bruce Willis). When you start rich, then you think you don’t need to save. You just party it away (young Bruce). It’s a basic human failing that repeats itself thru history
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If you know you will die in 30 years you won't do a pretty good job of staying out of depression
But how could Old Joe even break the loop, in the original history, Old Joe came back hooded and didn't try to save himself.
Maybe he was too fulled with grief to fight back
Because quantum uncertainty means things can change with every loop. Every time they do something that manipulates the past, like sending someone to get deleted, a new loop occurs, for all the loopers, only they don't realize it, because time has been altered. In the "first" loop, Joe's life was slightly different...maybe he never met the woman, maybe he did and they didn't kill her, but for whatever reason, circumstances lead to her being killed, and that's what made Joe fight back. They explain it in the one scene where he gets him to rat on his friend, that the future itself is fuzzy and uncertain. It's like groundhog day, except slight difference on each reset due to quantum uncertainty. Most of the time the differences are too small to matter, but sometimes they make for big changes, and that's what happened with Joe. It's basically a side effect of the nature of the universe, and why time travel was soo dangerous, because of all the weird ripples it could cause.
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I don't understand how the old joe is more stronger and tougher than the young joe
Young Joe is young but he's just an executioner, he lacks both the strength and the smarts. Old Joe is a hardened criminal who has performed multiple hits, armed robberies, and bar fights.
Because he is more experienced plus he knows how his younger self fight
That's cuz this version of Joe is a trained killer. Unlike the younger Joe who is just a hot head, living fast and loose.
There's a lot of plot holes in this
Like what
@@SimonKnight1023 If old joe was killed by young joe the first time around what causes the timeline to change that means the next time around old joe does things differently. The timeline is either set or it isn't, the plot changes between the two with no explanation. The plot jumps around with the different potential effects of time travel in order to move the plot forward
@@chrispekel5709 Are you saying that young Joe couldn’t have killed Old Joe because Old Joe would have already lived through that experience?
@@SimonKnight1023 yes. It works if there are divergent timelines but the entire premise of the film, including the name - is a loop. The story has both events that affect the future time travellers occurring in the present (the surgery on Seth) AND divergent timelines (such as two different outcomes for old Joe, escaping or dying from being shot)
The rules of time travel are all over the place
They try to explain it away with memory loss and the whole 'its confusing' explanation in the diner, but the fundamental rules have to stay the same for the audience. The characters perception is unimportant, unless the film is setting up people as unreliable narrators - which it does not
@@chrispekel5709 It works in the sense that the second joe that killed Old Joe 1 remembered closing his loop through his timeline the first Old Joe killed never closed his loop since he was Joe Prime. Second Old Joe wasn't going to Live through the same timeline the Old Joe Prime lived through. Changing Joe 3 future by sabotaging the Loop Plan.
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I thought joe was rainmaker
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if this was me? I would Edward Norton Portray a Younger Version of Myself but I don't know who would play me 30 Years Older!
Bruce Willis sucks... Keanu Reeves would be much more believable and looks much more like the main character
Needed similar facial features
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