Game Theory: Dear Nintendo, I FIXED Your Timeline! (Zelda)

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  • @TimePavement
    @TimePavement 5 років тому +30306

    MatPat: "Ruining your childhood since 2011"
    Me: "You are my childhood."

    • @Jlipper
      @Jlipper 5 років тому +740

      Love him or hate him, he is spitting straight facts.

    • @UnsightlyComplightly
      @UnsightlyComplightly 5 років тому +228

      SAME even though I didn't know him at the time, apparently my six year old self didn't know what UA-cam was

    • @johnyliltoe
      @johnyliltoe 5 років тому +81

      Oh god, I feel old...

    • @samuelsanders4078
      @samuelsanders4078 5 років тому +63

      @@WaterMeLoan64 don't. just don't.

    • @hamzakhurram6028
      @hamzakhurram6028 5 років тому +7

      ❤️❤️

  • @shaqjuice420
    @shaqjuice420 5 років тому +5363

    Link: I've finally killed Ganon once and for all.
    Ganon: Yes you did.
    Link: what
    Ganon: what

    • @vinn8710
      @vinn8710 5 років тому +42

      lol

    • @angryrat7423
      @angryrat7423 5 років тому +24

      Hehe

    • @kronker1749
      @kronker1749 5 років тому +15

      lol

    • @sergevictoryyt
      @sergevictoryyt 5 років тому +28

      Me: what

    • @shaqjuice420
      @shaqjuice420 5 років тому +40

      @@shameemkawsar2162 see now if I had said something like this is my original comment I would see why your comment was necessary but people copy and paste all the time lol, does it even really matter? "Stole" lol I stole words

  • @HetIsLennertWeer
    @HetIsLennertWeer 5 років тому +774

    MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline!
    Me: Waiting for a new Zelda game to come out so he can start all over again.

    • @acowwithlegs
      @acowwithlegs 5 років тому +9

      Also me: BOTW 2

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 5 років тому +7

      He's already screwed up since Breath of the Wild is at the end, with all three timelines converging onto it, implying that a Breath of the Wild happens in every possible scenario. I'm gonna enjoy watching the next several Zelda theories.

    • @chrisschoenthaler5184
      @chrisschoenthaler5184 5 років тому +13

      daffy duck How exactly did he “screw up”? This entire video was an explanation of HOW Breath of the Wild could possibly be the culmination of three separate timelines.

    • @UltimateKyuubiFox
      @UltimateKyuubiFox 5 років тому +9

      daffy duck Your comment does nothing to disprove MatPat’s assertions. You’ve simple stated something he agrees with and then pretended it wasn’t expressly part of his conclusion.

    • @tmmaster6904
      @tmmaster6904 5 років тому +4

      @@redwidow1358 You sound like the critics reviewing the new Godzilla movie, you said nothing of value and are completely wrong

  • @theleviathan3902
    @theleviathan3902 3 роки тому +3896

    Fools, everybody knows that LoZ monopoly is the pin that holds it all together

    • @LegendPoor
      @LegendPoor 3 роки тому +142

      Fool actually its zelda uno

    • @nothingtoseehere5829
      @nothingtoseehere5829 3 роки тому +97

      You are both fools! The official LoZ board game is the glue keeping the timelines together.

    • @Jackbarrany
      @Jackbarrany 3 роки тому +135

      All of you, Fools! It’s the 2002 Zelda Burger king toy that makes sense of everything!

    • @ratgaming5562
      @ratgaming5562 3 роки тому +110

      You’re all fools! It’s Brian David Gilbert

    • @funnyvalentine5638
      @funnyvalentine5638 3 роки тому +29

      How foolish of all you to belive that a random zelda sticker from a dodgey website is the true thing sticking this timeline together!

  • @aeinzalot
    @aeinzalot 5 років тому +4361

    MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline!
    Me: *Hey I’ve seen this one before! It’s a classic!*

    • @kyubeyz_7062
      @kyubeyz_7062 5 років тому +27

      Congrats you’re getting likes by the second

    • @JD-iv9ol
      @JD-iv9ol 5 років тому +49

      Yeah BDG is the best

    • @TheKpa11
      @TheKpa11 5 років тому +13

      *raises hand*
      Multiverse

    • @dragonsuper6195
      @dragonsuper6195 5 років тому +12

      Hey but what about Mat suffering for FNAF

    • @juholempiainen3767
      @juholempiainen3767 5 років тому +32

      @@kyubeyz_7062 what do you mean you've seen it it's brand new

  • @casualverse
    @casualverse 5 років тому +6182

    Nintendo: "Very good Matpat but you're missing one key piece of evidence."
    Matpat: "And that is...?"
    Nintendo: "No."

  • @TheHuskyK9
    @TheHuskyK9 5 років тому +901

    Nintendo: "Hyrule Warriors is not canon"
    MatPat: "Yes but actually no."

    • @ShadwSonic
      @ShadwSonic 5 років тому +19

      Or more accurately, "But thou must!". Ironically, that assertion actually makes me seriously consider getting it, whereas before the different playstyle had me giving it a pass.
      Canon coaxes coin, I suppose.

    • @dwigttaylor3544
      @dwigttaylor3544 5 років тому +26

      Nintendo: here are the ONLY games that you’re allowed to make a timeline with
      Matpat: but are they?

    • @hakzource8660
      @hakzource8660 5 років тому +2

      You got the meme wrong, nice

    • @adriannaranjo4397
      @adriannaranjo4397 5 років тому +2

      *No, but actually yes

    • @averageskeletonremover2415
      @averageskeletonremover2415 5 років тому

      I am the rarest human, for I have played that game AND own a wii u

  • @teukukeanu3078
    @teukukeanu3078 3 роки тому +2145

    Matpat: “on the happier side of the timeline, we have Majora's mask and twilight princess”
    Me: ah, yes. The two most wholesome games in LoZ: MM and TP

    • @Rizal_R_
      @Rizal_R_ 2 роки тому +18

      😂

    • @lifeofpoppie7267
      @lifeofpoppie7267 2 роки тому +17

      Ahh yes

    • @lifeofpoppie7267
      @lifeofpoppie7267 2 роки тому +11

      That's rich

    • @alpha00z26
      @alpha00z26 2 роки тому +51

      the moon crashing isn't wholesome? i mast have accidently read antonyms instead of defenition

    • @NovaMaster375
      @NovaMaster375 2 роки тому +37

      Well, MM does contain the best, most wholesome marriage scene...

  • @skylenexo6541
    @skylenexo6541 5 років тому +860

    Matpat: *Ignores Four Swords Adventures*
    Also Matpat after a few months/years: *THIS IS HOW FOUR SWORDS ADVENTURES SOLVES THE TIMELINE!*

    • @JohnzoGaming
      @JohnzoGaming 5 років тому +16

      Wouldn't be opposed to this.

    • @Wolfrich666
      @Wolfrich666 5 років тому +6

      i think 4 swords fits better in the downfall timeline

    • @ninorandazzo844
      @ninorandazzo844 5 років тому

      it used to be 420 but i liked i ruin everything

    • @WingedVlog444
      @WingedVlog444 5 років тому +2

      I think four swords is after warriors.

    • @unfortunatewitnessX
      @unfortunatewitnessX 5 років тому

      Oh, I can't wait for this theory to become a video!

  • @akilw.3360
    @akilw.3360 5 років тому +457

    You: Epic of Stew is Mat and Steph first collab
    Me, an intellectual: Epic of Stew is Oliver's older brother

  • @maestro0798
    @maestro0798 5 років тому +1195

    I can almost imagine people at Nintendo going: Hah, didn't think of that... Lets go with that one :')

    • @silenal2885
      @silenal2885 5 років тому +82

      Nintendo: **releases a new book because of the timeline**

    • @urgae9125
      @urgae9125 5 років тому +16

      You know Nintendo will.
      It’s too easy

    • @amuzarill423
      @amuzarill423 5 років тому +3

      It's a cool theory but hyrule warriors arent canon.

    • @ninjamage5215
      @ninjamage5215 5 років тому +10

      Amuzarill Matpat is making the case for Nintendo to make it canon to solve the timeline.... based on the evidence. You missed the point

    • @TheMazrem
      @TheMazrem 5 років тому +12

      @@amuzarill423 If Link Get's a ChooChoo is cannon, I'm going to say Link and Cia's Excellent Adventure is cannon.

  • @clplayz6344
    @clplayz6344 Рік тому +114

    This fits so well with TOTK. The secret stone ganon steals in TOTK is shown in here during TP.

  • @faye1957
    @faye1957 5 років тому +785

    Matpat: “I solved the entire Zelda timeline with Hyrule Warriors.”
    Bdg: “Hold my Skyrim Book Report.”

  • @TodosLocosOfficial
    @TodosLocosOfficial 5 років тому +947

    How MatPat converged the timelines: Hyrule Warriors
    How Brian David Gilbert converged the timelines: LEGEND OF ZELDA MONOPOLY!

    • @TheFranciscoFm
      @TheFranciscoFm 5 років тому +47

      You, my friend, are a man of culture

    • @charlottesharp9485
      @charlottesharp9485 5 років тому +44

      Matpat: Downfall Timeline
      BDG: basketball

    • @zackarieneifert7014
      @zackarieneifert7014 5 років тому +24

      We don't need the the books to figure out the timeline. Brian David Gilbert did it for us

    • @dandanlec1996
      @dandanlec1996 5 років тому +6

      I just watche the video, there was monopoly

    • @devcrom3
      @devcrom3 5 років тому +19

      Link either IS god or can KILL god and I DON'T CARE IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE!

  • @corpsekid5951
    @corpsekid5951 5 років тому +796

    Matpat: I fixed the timeline!!!
    *Brian David Gilbert would like to know your location*

    • @SJohann
      @SJohann 5 років тому +17

      We need that Game Theory/Polygon crossover.

    • @falpsdsqglthnsac
      @falpsdsqglthnsac 5 років тому +15

      LoZ Monopoly should be canon.

    • @Joyce-xi1di
      @Joyce-xi1di 5 років тому +12

      Wheres the basketball timeline??

  • @SugarSpice07
    @SugarSpice07 2 роки тому +958

    If the timeline changes based on the player's imagination, then my imagination says that Matpat's timeline is the correct one.

    • @MaggieCandy999
      @MaggieCandy999 Рік тому +23

      I seconded it! ✋🏻

    • @jakariashafin1695
      @jakariashafin1695 Рік тому +12

      I third it.

    • @danielled8665
      @danielled8665 Рік тому +23

      That has some horrifying implications for Link and Gannon, given what some fans have created in the fanfiction category.

    • @morthurarrgan
      @morthurarrgan Рік тому +2

      The UA-cam channel Zelda Lore made a Zelda Timeline and that’s my new head canon

    • @jakariashafin1695
      @jakariashafin1695 Рік тому +1

      @@morthurarrgan interesting I'll probably check it out later.

  • @rowanbyrne6133
    @rowanbyrne6133 5 років тому +2170

    Looks like Matpat’s not a scholar in Time break studies.
    He forgot about legend of Zelda monopoly.

  • @SuperLaluigi
    @SuperLaluigi 5 років тому +578

    nintendo: It isnt canon.
    game theorists: well no but actually yes.

    • @lilstar4158
      @lilstar4158 5 років тому +2

      game theory: it wasn't, but we made it :)

    • @greatpeople3574
      @greatpeople3574 5 років тому +1

      Nintendo: Hyrule warriors isn't cannon
      GT: R U SURE BOUT DAT

    • @bradywanlin7426
      @bradywanlin7426 5 років тому +3

      It’s not canon, it’s *Ganon*

    • @EggWhisper
      @EggWhisper 5 років тому +1

      @@bradywanlin7426 LOL Perfectly spicy memes!

  • @Miisee
    @Miisee 5 років тому +347

    Kinda wish BOTW had a human form of Ganon.....wait....
    *remembers BOTW 2 reveal*
    NEVERMIND.

    • @voltrainer
      @voltrainer 5 років тому +15

      It also quite literally fits into the theory

    • @magictriangle6878
      @magictriangle6878 5 років тому +8

      Yeah, the crown and long hair checks out.

  • @heliummaster6628
    @heliummaster6628 3 роки тому +502

    he should really come back to this theory, since age of calamity was released.

    • @emeralddragon2980
      @emeralddragon2980 3 роки тому +43

      I don't think it really changes too much from this theory. Yes, AoC makes two new timelines, but they're still after Hyrule Warriors Classic, which is what unite the three original timelines back into one.

    • @ilikefood4482
      @ilikefood4482 Рік тому +15

      Maybe he’ll make a new one after Tears of the Kingdom comes out in may

    • @cronkus
      @cronkus Рік тому +7

      @@ilikefood4482 doubt it. Nintendo has been on a war path and with the wellness of a wife, child, and whole company to look after, something tells me it’s not worth the strikes. But who knows, he might. But tears is also being theorized to be the last in the cycle. The 2 theories are the cycle is gonna be reset and everything returns to the sky or the cycle will be broken and Ganondorf fights his calamity self along side link and Zelda. I’m expecting the former, hoping for the latter.

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 Рік тому +1

      @@emeralddragon2980 True.

  • @christophervandehey2614
    @christophervandehey2614 3 роки тому +752

    The timelines fused together to create botw and then split again into the "new downfall timeline" for botw and a victorious timeline for age of calamity.

    • @mariustan9275
      @mariustan9275 2 роки тому +22

      That actually makes sense

    • @derrickdaniels3955
      @derrickdaniels3955 2 роки тому +20

      Yes so the timeliness come together and make the Calamity timeline. From there we get BOTW and thanks to Terrako another timeline is created which is Age of Calamity.

    • @micahbirdlover8152
      @micahbirdlover8152 2 роки тому +2

      @@mariustan9275 new flim theory idea 💡wild Kratts are criminals 🤭😃

    • @terranightvods
      @terranightvods 2 роки тому

      wouldn't botw 2 be a victorious timeline and age of calamity be the downfall one?

    • @kenty597
      @kenty597 2 роки тому +15

      @@terranightvods age of calamity they defeated and i think killed calamity ganon as he awoke
      In breath of the wild ganon woke up and took over and the champions lost causing link to be sealed away for 100 years wile zelda held gannon from completly destroying the place

  • @liammcnicholas918
    @liammcnicholas918 5 років тому +577

    Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors is a spin-off
    MatPat: Well yes, but actually no

    • @todddempsey1277
      @todddempsey1277 5 років тому +6

      That's Matpat.

    • @Sebas-bs8uk
      @Sebas-bs8uk 5 років тому +7

      UNO REVERSE CARD!

    • @SkyShadows-ik5vu
      @SkyShadows-ik5vu 5 років тому +3

      Yes, just yes

    • @video_watcher9252
      @video_watcher9252 5 років тому +11

      it is a spinoff regardless of this theory. Spinoffs an be canon.

    • @MrShellbuster
      @MrShellbuster 5 років тому +6

      @@video_watcher9252 considering it littertily is about a time keeper and merges the time lines at various points of their respective games story... like oot was after the hero of time.

  • @adude270
    @adude270 5 років тому +564

    >Does a zelda timeline theory that works and could be agreed upon everyone to be canon
    >Doesn`t include Zelda Monopoly
    >Understandable Rejection

    • @joshwoofter4789
      @joshwoofter4789 5 років тому +15

      Almost as blasphemous as Sonic games

    • @jorgehernandez5730
      @jorgehernandez5730 5 років тому +18

      It lacks a time break

    • @tatltails3923
      @tatltails3923 5 років тому +16

      I guess MatPat doesn't understand Basic Storytelling

    • @windingmonster3838
      @windingmonster3838 5 років тому

      I simply love you for this comment thread.

    • @archdukemonte2530
      @archdukemonte2530 5 років тому +5

      I also reject this theory due to MatPat's failure to include Lonk in the timeline.

  • @Insert_Bland_Name_Here
    @Insert_Bland_Name_Here 3 роки тому +181

    Link's Awakening taking place after the Oracle games makes a lot more sense than placing it before. In the finale of a linked game in the Oracle games, Link sets out to sea. Link's awakening starts out with Link being out at sea, sailing into a storm and getting shipwrecked. They just tie together perfectly this way.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Рік тому +6

      This is the only thing that makes sense

    • @dranz8125
      @dranz8125 Рік тому +9

      It should also be noted that in the original Japanese manual, its stated in Link's Awakening, that Link was returning from his journey of adventure in foreign nations. Like, it came out first, but they set it up perfectly to take place after the oracle games.

  • @Nekoblitzzz
    @Nekoblitzzz 5 років тому +738

    Nintendo: “Everyone can use their imagination to enjoy this story”
    MatPat: “I have the RIGHT timeline and you’re all gonna listen!!!”

    • @DrDolan2000
      @DrDolan2000 5 років тому +25

      He's right, I will listen. It's relaxing

    • @reddokun
      @reddokun 5 років тому +16

      JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUST ANOTHER THEORY!
      Not but forreal, let's not take Mat's interpretations as /fact/. Let him have his fun, it's certainly entertaining.

    • @AJSSPACEPLACE
      @AJSSPACEPLACE 4 роки тому +2

      Neko blitz I remember the day MatPat put a gun to my head and yelled “BELIEVE MY THEORIES!”

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 Рік тому +1

      @@reddokun The Nintendrone is salty. XD

  • @personalRCH
    @personalRCH 5 років тому +391

    *One Decade Later.*
    Nintendoes: "Breath of the Wild 2 is actually a prequel."

    • @localcrazyrussian4511
      @localcrazyrussian4511 5 років тому +25

      Since when was Nintendo jk Rowling?

    • @seishonagon8468
      @seishonagon8468 5 років тому

      @@localcrazyrussian4511 lol

    • @Lahombre
      @Lahombre 5 років тому

      Don’t. You. Dare!

    • @joonwhang185
      @joonwhang185 5 років тому

      Vivaldithe2nd Reptiles and Amphibians Language!

    • @JulesTheSleepyDemon
      @JulesTheSleepyDemon 5 років тому +1

      The disappointing thing is that it could actually be possible. For all we know, that trailer took place before they discovered everything, before any of the memories in BotW, even.
      I hope it's not, though.

  • @Edelsteinsammler
    @Edelsteinsammler 5 років тому +579

    Matpat: ah yes the first timeline, the downfall timeline
    BDG: SO OVER HERE IN BASKETBALL...

  • @RetroSetJoe
    @RetroSetJoe 2 роки тому +85

    I know it's been like... 2.5 years from when this came out BUT...
    The Zora in the downfall timeline are two separate species: River Zora and Ocean Zora. I want to say it's explained in one of the Oracle games...
    Love what you do Matt!

    • @dablindscooter1973
      @dablindscooter1973 2 роки тому +2

      it is explained in oracle of ages i was abt to comment this

    • @Phatnaru0002
      @Phatnaru0002 2 роки тому +8

      The thing is though, Breath of the Wild also canonically features Majora's Mask and the Fierce Deity's Mask, with the power inside them gone. At least so far as we know, this has only ever happened in the child timeline.

  • @nalinea18
    @nalinea18 5 років тому +333

    MatPat: ”Thirsty time-sorceress.”
    Me: ”Dang it, Ultimecia, not again! Stop re-incarnating yourself!”

    • @honeychroma
      @honeychroma 5 років тому +9

      I laughed really hard at this, Final Fantasy VIII was gREaT

    • @TheShardsFamily
      @TheShardsFamily 5 років тому +1

      I bet you could make plenty of theories with her cause... time travel is a frak

    • @RealSkoolmaster
      @RealSkoolmaster 5 років тому +1

      Well, this comment is better than the entire video and it was a good one this time. Kudos to you

  • @obi-wank-enobi
    @obi-wank-enobi 4 роки тому +2988

    Matpat: IVE SOLVED THE TIMELINE!!
    Nintendo: He knows too much hit the shuffle button again

    • @insertusernamehere8324
      @insertusernamehere8324 4 роки тому +22

      TRU DAT!!!!

    • @alucozadebottle4423
      @alucozadebottle4423 4 роки тому +80

      I'm about to make you angry
      Read more

    • @obi-wank-enobi
      @obi-wank-enobi 4 роки тому +69

      @@alucozadebottle4423 how dare you post such trickery on my comment I have been trying to press the read more button for the past 5 minutes

    • @s3dsd840
      @s3dsd840 4 роки тому +6

      Playboy Piccolo same 😂

    • @obi-wank-enobi
      @obi-wank-enobi 4 роки тому +5

      Dammit who liked the video unlike it this instant!

  • @earthisadonut7213
    @earthisadonut7213 5 років тому +1706

    MatPat: I SOLVED THE TIMELINE, NINTENDO!
    Nintendo: uhhhh…yeah that's...umm...that's what we were going for

    • @dancalf
      @dancalf 5 років тому +73

      I really have my hopes up that they will make this change oficial, but yes, they'll probably make a disclaimer that they didn't got the idea from MatPat. Something like "Our creative team came by this idea themselves".

    • @ricardohoang8452
      @ricardohoang8452 5 років тому +16

      Also Nintendo: Oh you just said #CancelZelda ? Well we will just copyright your video then!

    • @Skypatroller_BenCD
      @Skypatroller_BenCD 5 років тому

      I make this 3 weeks or 1 month before him

    • @mookielagaras9195
      @mookielagaras9195 5 років тому +1

      BenjaminCD t as fait une vidéo de deux minutes où tu fais que lister des jeux, ya aucune explication à propos des connexions entre eux ou comment ça marche tout ensemble mdrrr

    • @Skypatroller_BenCD
      @Skypatroller_BenCD 5 років тому +1

      @@mookielagaras9195 cette vidéos c'est la timeline avec Link cartoon l'autre j'ai fait une théorie sur Linkel ou j'avais expliqué ça

  • @synthwolfe8906
    @synthwolfe8906 3 роки тому +30

    Just wanted to mention that the zora are physically far more varied in both color and shape in BOTW than any other single game. As such, it's possible that particular feature could be a hold over from when they were monsters and enemies of hylians.

    • @dafilmqueen556
      @dafilmqueen556 Рік тому +2

      Not to mention, in Breath Of The Wild, King Dorephan seems to be non hostile towards Link, but his advisor Muzu (whom I've heard gamer Andrew from The Andrew Collette Show jokingly call Stingray face. I love that guy, a married gamer who happens to be a father and an editor with a sense of humor? A UA-cam gamer after my own heart 😂❤) clearly has disdain towards Link as well as untrusting of most Hylians, only relenting to trust Link after Prince Sidon proves that Link's Zora armor was made by Princess Mipha specifically for Link (whom she had an unrequited crush on, poor girl). If that doesn't give an indication that the timeline is mashed up, I don't know what does..

  • @PGhostCZ
    @PGhostCZ 5 років тому +496

    Game dev: "This is not canon"
    MatPat: "THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING"

    • @mightyoneproductions2232
      @mightyoneproductions2232 5 років тому +2

      So True. MatPat does connect the dots quite nicely. It fits in perfectly, thereby combining the three timelines.

    • @thedragonballgod9472
      @thedragonballgod9472 5 років тому

      MightyOne Productions but he didn’t include four swords so the theory is debunked

    • @BiohazardScott
      @BiohazardScott 5 років тому

      Nintendo: "There's no timeline, all games are stories apart"
      Also Nintendo_ "Here's your timeline, now buy! So you make me richer."

    • @mightyoneproductions2232
      @mightyoneproductions2232 5 років тому

      @The Dragon Ball God Uh, how is it debunked if Four Swords Adventure is apart of the child timeline? He didn't need to cover Four Swords, because it was doing it's own thing, and just made it so that there were four Links.

    • @thedragonballgod9472
      @thedragonballgod9472 5 років тому

      MightyOne Productions hold I’m watching the video again to find what he said about four swords

  • @별나무-r1c
    @별나무-r1c 5 років тому +816

    TITLE: Dear Nintendo,
    ME: Oh so this is Austin's
    MATPAT: Welcome to Game Theory
    ME: Oh.

    • @Tezrak0
      @Tezrak0 5 років тому +20

      The thumbnail looked like one of Austin's too.

    • @rew1677
      @rew1677 5 років тому +6

      @@Tezrak0 i pulled a sneeky on ya

    • @10subscriberswithnovideos30
      @10subscriberswithnovideos30 5 років тому +5

      False prophet Austin Letters are blue and matpats are green so yeah you stupehd

    • @juice2307
      @juice2307 5 років тому +5

      Not gonna lie, I was a bit disappointed when it wasn't Austin.

    • @SupermarioglitchyVISIX
      @SupermarioglitchyVISIX 5 років тому +2

      You can tell by the thumbnails game theory is green and I believe austins is blue.

  • @mrcanofwhoopass
    @mrcanofwhoopass 5 років тому +876

    "Weve been working on group projects ever since"
    Like creating a child lol congrats matpat

  • @joshuamorton3487
    @joshuamorton3487 3 роки тому +32

    There is actually a lot more evidence that Hyrule was once a great sea in BotW then just rock salt. There are giant skeletons of once ocean dwelling leviathans all over the place.

    • @DrDolan2000
      @DrDolan2000 Рік тому +4

      But how do we know they're from the ocean?
      There was also a leviathan of the skies: Levias
      Maybe these same leviathans are the same creatures as him. But when they died, they fell to the surface

  • @senjugold6977
    @senjugold6977 5 років тому +1445

    Matpat: fixes timeline
    Nintendo: write that down WRITE THAT DOWN.

    • @Greenlog12
      @Greenlog12 5 років тому +30

      Senju Gold WRITE THAT DOWN OR YOUR FIRED

    • @AtMr8MinutesIsReal
      @AtMr8MinutesIsReal 4 роки тому +20

      *SCRIBBLES TIC-TAC-TOE*

    • @pyroblade888
      @pyroblade888 4 роки тому +3

      Lol

    • @popopopolo
      @popopopolo 4 роки тому +5

      Charles french

    • @Tandwar
      @Tandwar 4 роки тому +18

      Matpat: Fixes Timeline
      Nintendo: Dam we gotta change it again

  • @strangestcraze7743
    @strangestcraze7743 5 років тому +221

    MatPat: *says Nintendo should know its timeline they created*
    Nintendo: *says Hyrule Warriors isn't canon to the timeline*
    MatPat: *proceeds to include it in said timeline*

    • @jacobsmith7094
      @jacobsmith7094 5 років тому +13

      well nintendo probably never thought about a connection to the timeline they just figured that the game was so different that they shouldn't even include it. But maybe if someone at nintendo sees this the game will (hopefully) become a part of the timeline

    • @randomduck8679
      @randomduck8679 5 років тому

      Jacob Smith aren’t there multiple links in that game

    • @Homoronavirus
      @Homoronavirus 5 років тому

      @@jacobsmith7094 CDI

  • @literallyredacted1934
    @literallyredacted1934 5 років тому +364

    BDG predicted Hyrule warriors' importance. We called him a madman, but he was speaking the truth and saying the sooth

    • @packardgoose400
      @packardgoose400 5 років тому +61

      "We rejected His message. We hated Him because He told us the truth."

    • @justkon1789
      @justkon1789 5 років тому +5

      Who’s BDG

    • @packardgoose400
      @packardgoose400 5 років тому +21

      @@justkon1789 Brian David Gilbert. He works for Polygon and we're referencing his Unraveled series.

    • @literallyredacted1934
      @literallyredacted1934 5 років тому +7

      @@justkon1789 the dude from the Polygon series Unravelled. It's really funny.

    • @Merrygate_
      @Merrygate_ 5 років тому +7

      He is a visionary come to enlighten us all

  • @horaceshear2294
    @horaceshear2294 2 роки тому +59

    I think you're right on point . This video blew my freaking mind

  • @allusiondreams09
    @allusiondreams09 5 років тому +511

    Matt: "Dear Nintendo, I-"
    Austin: *"HI! IT'S ME! AUSTIN!"*

  • @Yekulten
    @Yekulten 5 років тому +618

    ocarina of time: "Oops, I ripped reality into three parts."
    Hyrule Warriors: "Let me fix that for you."

    • @peterlaursen5722
      @peterlaursen5722 5 років тому +60

      Hyrule Warriors: i Will show you the power of Flex tape

    • @jacobsmith7094
      @jacobsmith7094 5 років тому +10

      if only Nintendo made hyrule warriors canon

    • @I_like_pi_
      @I_like_pi_ 5 років тому +29

      @@peterlaursen5722 To show you the power of flex tape, I sawed this timeline in half!

    • @nonoctoro4933
      @nonoctoro4933 5 років тому +4

      Two parts*
      Aktually OOT never took place in the "Downfall" Timeline.

    • @camsterasmar975
      @camsterasmar975 5 років тому +1

      Nonoctoro When Link dies in OOT the downfall timeline begins.

  • @SlipScout
    @SlipScout 5 років тому +181

    "The breath just got wilder" is my favorite line
    also rehydrated ganon was a beautiful sentence

    • @declanandrewbell
      @declanandrewbell 5 років тому +9

      m o i s t g a n o n

    • @devcrom3
      @devcrom3 5 років тому

      If the sequel isn't named Zelda: Breathe Harder, I'm going to boycott.

  • @JMFSpike
    @JMFSpike 2 роки тому +51

    When Nintendo revealed a couple of decades ago that there was a timeline, I think what they meant was that there was "somewhat" of a timeline. Basically, some games are direct sequels and fit together well. Where the "somewhat" comes in is that some games are unrelated to any other game, and in that case Nintendo tries to force a connection. They do that by saying the game takes place many generations after some other game they choose to force a connection to, and also by making up events that supposedly happened in-between the 2 games that there is no game for.
    I believe the above is also what Nintendo has been trying to tell us over the last few years or so, only they're clearly not being as straightforward about it as I was. You said it yourself in the video, that this "we want fans to come up with their own interpretations" thing is being said because they themselves don't really know. They did their best to try and piece it all together in a way that makes sense, but they know it's very imperfect because their main concern has never been the timeline. Sometimes they just want to make a Zelda game, and they probably feel that trying too hard to make it connect to other games restricts them in what they can do creatively.

  • @BigShpongled
    @BigShpongled 5 років тому +576

    I think Brian David Gilbert solved this timeline officially, because Monopoly is the most important piece of lore

  • @rocstac
    @rocstac 5 років тому +470

    nintendo: Hyrule Warriors isnt canon
    MatPat: BUT what about this, and this, and this, and this, and ...
    nintendo: ... (quietly) quick write that down.

    • @larstallinger6795
      @larstallinger6795 5 років тому +29

      Honestly wouldn't surprise me. While HW does fit the timeline pretty well I still don't quite like this idea. I would prefer a fleshed out game where a Link has to travel between the timelines and officially recombine them. Kind of like an oracle of ages/seasons-like game but with timelines. Each timeline would have its own map with similarities and differences compared to the rest and eventually you get to merge them all into one complete map.
      In HW the timelines get merged but if my memory serves me right, the timelines were split up again in the end. That would mean the other timelines still exist....but the child timeline now has influences from other timelines affecting it. I had the WiiU version of HW so it's been a while since I played it but I don't think my memory is that much off.
      I do find the argument compelling though and I am also quite impressed by how so far the comments have been extremely positive to this idea. I'm used to people rushing to the comments to trash the theory. Well done, by everyone.

    • @alexp6667
      @alexp6667 5 років тому +1

      @@larstallinger6795 this aint the Hollow Knight vid, to which, i thought to be true... until i truly thought about it for a sec

    • @Nanashi20
      @Nanashi20 5 років тому +2

      @@alexp6667 you really didnt need to think too hard about the hollow knight game if you played it to be honest, it was such a dumb, and horribly bad theory.

    • @alexp6667
      @alexp6667 5 років тому

      @@Nanashi20 I have already beaten the game once, doing it again in Steel Soul, and finishing it in Godmaster mode. I had trouble following the story, so i had trouble denying the theory, but then it hit me.
      If we are the king, then why are we siblings to Horneta and the Hollow Knight, wouldnt they know what their fathers presence was like?
      If we are the king, how could we have united the voidheart? It cannot be from simple things such as "Oh, he has been reincarnated as a sibling" no, the Voidheart allows you to command the void beings, beings completely oppossed to the power of the king. If we were the king, the task would be impossible, if we were a child of the king, we have the ability of sacrificing one part of our body for that union, the "Light" part.

    • @eldmusic
      @eldmusic 5 років тому +3

      rocstac or that one scene from spongebob
      Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors isn’t cannon!
      Matpat: HMMM! HMMMM!!! HHHHHHHMMMMMMM!!!!!

  • @sammuelsilva7058
    @sammuelsilva7058 5 років тому +198

    The Game Theorists: (this video)
    Nintendo:My god he’s always two steps ahead

    • @stormcrowlegendary3512
      @stormcrowlegendary3512 5 років тому +9

      Downfall Link: But I had a blue tunic too!

    • @bmhedgehog2
      @bmhedgehog2 5 років тому

      @@stormcrowlegendary3512 but Downfall Link that required an item to make it blue. BotW tunic is default and doesn't require an item for it.

    • @wilfridolopezthecrazymistery
      @wilfridolopezthecrazymistery 5 років тому

      bmhedgehog2 JMV wkkkpkmpmmuuo u

  • @lordmalachi6
    @lordmalachi6 Рік тому +60

    Hoping we get an update to this with Tears of the Kingdom out and involving its shenanigans.

    • @felipefroehnerteixeira4777
      @felipefroehnerteixeira4777 Рік тому +1

      Man i hope you arent to upset

    • @froggycolouring
      @froggycolouring Рік тому +2

      Well that’s basically just right after botw, since it was gonna be a dlc for it originally and all the characters even remember link from botw, unless they release another game

    • @Totomy2011
      @Totomy2011 Рік тому +2

      @@froggycolouringno but the backstory of totk screws everything up

  • @jacc.c
    @jacc.c 5 років тому +794

    Me: Which timeline is BoTW in?
    Matpat: Yes.

    • @pastorTracy911
      @pastorTracy911 5 років тому +7

      Thiccman100 and Nintendo:

    • @WiisonicHedgehogGamer
      @WiisonicHedgehogGamer 5 років тому +4

      BotW is likely the end of all timelines. It is inevitable. Every timeline end with BOTW.

    • @kayarayvn2483
      @kayarayvn2483 5 років тому +3

      @@WiisonicHedgehogGamer Except that that's not how divergent timelines generally work. Divergent timelines rarely, if ever re-converge into a singular timeline. It would take an incredible level of coincidence and time for three radically different timelines to converge into a single one that makes any semblance of sense with some kind of time travel shenanigans.

    • @gracemcgregor3316
      @gracemcgregor3316 5 років тому +1

      @@kayarayvn2483 it would need a...
      *T I M E B R E A K*

  • @berfisen
    @berfisen 5 років тому +2347

    Nintendo said that the timeline was up to the players imagination, so...
    That means this theory is correct!

    • @HonterDax
      @HonterDax 5 років тому +52

      Except the part about Hyrule Warriors being cannon...

    • @elliedove7899
      @elliedove7899 5 років тому +89

      Yay! FINALLY a theory that makes hyrule warriors and important game!
      Edit: wow, I think this is one of the most liked comments I've made. XDD

    • @l1m1x77
      @l1m1x77 5 років тому +10

      big brain time

    • @ragnarokaeon8242
      @ragnarokaeon8242 5 років тому +14

      I mean, theoretically...

    • @modeus4653
      @modeus4653 5 років тому +4

      @@HonterDax what does cannon mean?

  • @TheEarl_ofIDK
    @TheEarl_ofIDK 4 роки тому +2128

    Matpat: ok repeat after me
    Hyrule Warriors
    Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors
    Matpat: is cannon
    Nintendo: is cannon
    Matpat: and connects all timelines
    Nintendo: and connects all timelines
    Matpat: *Hyrule Warriors is cannon and connects all timelines*
    Nintendo: *Create a new Hyrule Warriors 100 years before Breath of the Wild*

    • @TheEarl_ofIDK
      @TheEarl_ofIDK 4 роки тому +76

      Really guys don't understand the message
      *Tldr Nintendo Announced new Hyrule Warriors that takes place 100 years before Breath of the Wild*

    • @archedmash9501
      @archedmash9501 4 роки тому +33

      Hyrule warriors isn't canon, won't be canon and doesn't connect all the games. You would know if you actually played the game instead of parroting matpat.

    • @TheEarl_ofIDK
      @TheEarl_ofIDK 4 роки тому +98

      @@archedmash9501 fair I mean *It's Just A Therory*

    • @archedmash9501
      @archedmash9501 4 роки тому +8

      @Robertino Tanos Prove it, moron.

    • @jaob8855
      @jaob8855 4 роки тому +39

      @@archedmash9501 they said it's up to the player i think

  • @bunsenn5064
    @bunsenn5064 3 роки тому +60

    Here’s my theory. Nintendo makes references to every timeline of Zelda in the Breath of the Wild game for a reason. Supposedly, the whole timeline takes place over 10,000 years ago, in an era Breath of the Wild calls the “Era of Myth”. It could be said that the reason all these timelines are present is because Breath of the Wild is so far ahead in the future that the earlier entries in the timeline all occur in the Era of Myth, so far in the past that Breath of the Wild practically becomes its own new story. It’s actually something that parallels reality. In the real world, civilizations like the Sumerians and the Mayans who existed thousands of years ago are still left in mystery. To this day, we still haven’t deciphered these civilizations and eras of time. Breath of the Wild may have been designed to be a story where the original legends of Zelda are so old that they’ve been practically forgotten by Hyrule, and a new story of the hero begins, slowly uncovering the mysteries of past civilizations like the Zonai and the ancient tribes. A different approach to an age-old story.

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 2 роки тому +10

      But that’s not a theory, that’s just exactly what BOTW already says… lol

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 Рік тому

      No, not really.

  • @HumanOnEarth128
    @HumanOnEarth128 5 років тому +762

    when you said "timeline solved," I thought it was an exaggeration, but watching this I believe you
    Make Hyrule Warriors canon

    • @Vlannary
      @Vlannary 5 років тому +41

      you could say we should make it Ganon

    • @the1hero182
      @the1hero182 5 років тому +4

      Dabs

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 5 років тому +6

      its for sure canon, the creator of zelda is just lying, anytime Nintendo has company that works on any of their main IP's they have direct involvement, so yes i believe Hyrule is canon and Nintendo needs stop denying it, plus its a great game

    • @GizmoHey
      @GizmoHey 5 років тому +2

      @@Vlannary LOL

    • @quindao4431
      @quindao4431 5 років тому

      matthew houlihan Ikr this is my new head cannon for sure

  • @gumedrop5214
    @gumedrop5214 5 років тому +678

    Nintendo: Use your imagination to create Zelda's timeline ^.^
    MatPat: *exist*
    Nintendo: ... did we make a mistake?

    • @16x17-n1p
      @16x17-n1p 5 років тому +12

      Matpat: YES

    • @theworldplaysoverheaven9605
      @theworldplaysoverheaven9605 5 років тому +7

      PoProstu Weronika
      You have made the gravest of mistakes.
      You created a Monster.

    • @unusualsheep
      @unusualsheep 5 років тому +3

      Always count the noncannon games as cannon

    • @kaijurider5153
      @kaijurider5153 5 років тому +1

      Yes you did nintendo

    • @wessltov
      @wessltov 5 років тому +3

      Nintendo: Use your imagination to create Zelda's timeline ^.^
      Rule34: *exists*
      Nintendo: ...did we make a mistake?

  • @bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257
    @bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257 4 роки тому +948

    After the release of Age of Calamity, the whole timeline thing gets funnier.
    Since Hyrule Warriors combines all three timelines to create the BOTW one.
    But the newest game creates two new timelines.
    One where Link and the Champions, (including their descendants of the future), defeat Ganon, and the other being the exact events of BOTW.
    So, Nintendo finally fixed the timeline by having BOTW be a combo of all three, but then creates two new ones.

    • @flamingpi2245
      @flamingpi2245 3 роки тому +69

      Eh it’s better than three
      At least we know where we are
      Besides, that way we get more varied games

    • @stachu5049
      @stachu5049 3 роки тому +44

      It's more like alternate reality than timeline

    • @MSRJ13
      @MSRJ13 3 роки тому +30

      Oh, for F*** sake.

    • @charmanderiscool6574
      @charmanderiscool6574 3 роки тому +19

      @@stachu5049 so is fallen hero, yet that exists.

    • @meking1808
      @meking1808 3 роки тому +19

      However, now that we've seen the sequel trailers, we've got a new problem. Following the events of botw, zelda and link find ganondorf, possibly kill/stop him and therefore end the calamity ganon cycle because ganondorf is the one creating them. In the aoc timeline, however, it's unclear whether or not they find ganondorf. If they don't, they will be stuck in a perpetual loop where calamity ganon returns every 10,000 years unless someone discovers (and defeats) ganondorf under hyrule castle

  • @boxpin8967
    @boxpin8967 3 роки тому +37

    I like the theory that it has been so long that all of the events in the timelines became an inevitability, and so Breath of the Wild happens in every timeline. It’s possible that Breath of the Wild takes place millions of years after the other games. It is purely speculative tho, so I wouldn’t be surprised if this was easily debunked.

    • @cheesygubbins5322
      @cheesygubbins5322 2 роки тому +3

      i think the zelda games are just different generations of link, not that the previous link is the father of the next link but a future generation of a green clad blonde haired silent hero.

    • @ramonandrajo6348
      @ramonandrajo6348 Рік тому +1

      Nice try, Nintendrone. XD

  • @chacrawarrior
    @chacrawarrior 5 років тому +265

    -Ganandorf: "I'm inevitable"
    -Link: "..."

    • @DecafInvidia
      @DecafInvidia 5 років тому +10

      Velma:"Jinkies!"
      Shaggy:"Zoinks!"
      Daphne:"Jeepers!"
      Scooby:"Ruh-roh!"
      Fred:"..."

    • @ararepotato1420
      @ararepotato1420 5 років тому +13

      Ganondorf: "Zelda, I am inevitable."
      Link: "And I am Link."

    • @DarkBear
      @DarkBear 5 років тому +6

      Navi: “Hey listen :3”

    • @ElizabethMartinez-vl7gd
      @ElizabethMartinez-vl7gd 5 років тому

      Link grabs the triforce

    • @dantekiwi7926
      @dantekiwi7926 5 років тому +2

      Link: *screeammss*

  • @Syndiate__
    @Syndiate__ 5 років тому +679

    2019 MatPat: *I fixed the Zelda timeline*
    2014 MatPat: *The Zelda timeline is much simpler than the FNAF timeline*

  • @tzisorey
    @tzisorey 5 років тому +237

    "Timeline may change depending on new discoveries" read as "There's still a time-travelling Link out there somewhere who's fudging stuff up"

    • @Azure70
      @Azure70 5 років тому +22

      Well, excuuuuuuse me.

    • @rushingwater2.0
      @rushingwater2.0 5 років тому +5

      Azure Phoenix we don’t talk about that...

    • @the1hero182
      @the1hero182 5 років тому +5

      Azure Phoenix the TV timeline (plus CDI)

    • @BUTTERSKY11
      @BUTTERSKY11 5 років тому +9

      @@the1hero182 the tv timeline is a hole in the Universe that gets bigger every time link says well EXCUSE ME PRINCESS

    • @rossperk
      @rossperk 5 років тому +3

      Great Scott!

  • @Maddyy320
    @Maddyy320 Рік тому +8

    Can’t wait to see how tears of the kingdom changes things when it releases.
    Also it’s funny how they reunited the timelines for ganon to win in the prologue to BOTW and then release age of calamity just to create an alternate timeline where they win before link has to be put in the shrine of resurrection.

  • @allenburt1475
    @allenburt1475 5 років тому +519

    Matpat: Hyrule warriors is the most important piece of cannon
    BDG: Hyrule Warriors?!? You made me care about HYRULE WARRIORS!
    Truly the greatest minds of our generation

    • @iAmARIFFiskandar
      @iAmARIFFiskandar 5 років тому +1

      Who is bdg?

    • @menicman7044
      @menicman7044 5 років тому +4

      @@iAmARIFFiskandar He does music and stuff on his main channel, but now he focuses on His series on Polygon, 'Unraveled', His first video on Unraveled was him fixing the Zelda Timeline.

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r 5 років тому

      @@iAmARIFFiskandar Look up Unraveled in Polygon! All of it is very amazing!

    • @abledadood2842
      @abledadood2842 5 років тому

      Canon

    • @eldin6491
      @eldin6491 5 років тому +2

      What the hell even is hyrule warriors

  • @rainyskye8323
    @rainyskye8323 5 років тому +662

    "So how do you do that sort of thing without an endgame level of time-heist?"
    Me, an intellectual: Zelda monopoly

  • @vinokai
    @vinokai 5 років тому +1811

    Nintendo employee: Sir! We have a situation!
    Nintendo: What is it?
    NE: It's that MatPat guy, he's solving our timeline again!
    N: Impossible!! Quickly, we must destroy the timelines!

    • @krawlie4420
      @krawlie4420 5 років тому +29

      Honestly, if that wad true, I wouldn’t be surprised.

    • @physashaandjdbrown1596
      @physashaandjdbrown1596 5 років тому +23

      MatPat: COME ON!!!!!

    • @amberyeh465
      @amberyeh465 5 років тому +8

      TBH, I don't think anybody would be surprised if this actually happened...

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee 5 років тому +5

      Steph: Are they from North Carolina?

    • @alexmanciu6068
      @alexmanciu6068 5 років тому +5

      Nintendo:Quic take daruk's crusher

  • @gingerbreadguy6764
    @gingerbreadguy6764 2 роки тому +38

    This theory actually makes sense and fits nearly perfectly into the timline... I can totally see this being canon at some point in future. Phenomenal theory Mat! you've done well, kid.

  • @reallyreal2007
    @reallyreal2007 5 років тому +393

    MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline!
    Nintendo: wAiT tHaTs ilEaGaL

    • @kate_gam3zalot105
      @kate_gam3zalot105 5 років тому +1

      Underrated comment XD

    • @runedoom
      @runedoom 5 років тому +1

      Yeah! We all know B.D.G did it first.

    • @Mr_Mimestamp
      @Mr_Mimestamp 5 років тому +3

      Nintendo: doesn’t completely have a solid timeline
      MatPat: wait that’s illegal

  • @8ByteBrian
    @8ByteBrian 5 років тому +848

    *You forgot the Nintendo: Legend of Zelda Board Game*
    *rumbling*
    *Timeline collapses*

    • @marojohn4926
      @marojohn4926 5 років тому +63

      Imagine thinking the board game holds the timeline together. We all know the breakfast cereal was the most important

    • @lumosnite5935
      @lumosnite5935 5 років тому +47

      Y’all never heard that Brain David Gilbert saved the Zelda timeline with Monopoly and it shows

    • @connermorg
      @connermorg 5 років тому +6

      What About The DLC's and Amibo's? Lol

    • @loxicarus695
      @loxicarus695 5 років тому +9

      You thought the Board game and Breakfast cereal was important. Well let me tell you the Legend of Zelda Trash can truely holds the timeline together.

    • @jojo58
      @jojo58 5 років тому +4

      They forgot cadence of hyrule too

  • @chloeevans6510
    @chloeevans6510 5 років тому +232

    Nintendo: *sees this video*
    Nintendo: Let’s make Hyrule Warriors canon now

    • @Shrooblord
      @Shrooblord 5 років тому +3

      Please do!

    • @voltrainer
      @voltrainer 5 років тому +1

      I mean it really shoulda been. Then the "theories" of a dragonbreak would just be hyrule warriors XD

  • @NicoleMay316
    @NicoleMay316 Рік тому +25

    As a massive fan of Hyrule Warriors and someone who thinks it absolutely fits in the timeline, this is perfect.

  • @wdecently7150
    @wdecently7150 5 років тому +447

    Hero of Time,
    Hero of Skies,
    Hero of Light,
    Hero of Multiversity,
    And with the new Cadence of Hyrule...
    *HERO OF* *_FUNK_*

    • @mattstanford9673
      @mattstanford9673 5 років тому +43

      Hero of Rhyme, as deemed by the almighty Egoraptor.

    • @wdecently7150
      @wdecently7150 5 років тому +4

      @@mattstanford9673 ah, how could I forget

    • @tariffictypist7372
      @tariffictypist7372 5 років тому +9

      Wot about the hero of Trains

    • @syndere6755
      @syndere6755 5 років тому +9

      You know, Hero of Time, Twilight, Sky, Light, Trains, Spirits, Hyrule, New Soup Hyrule, Wild- wait, Trains?

    • @stevenskinner998
      @stevenskinner998 5 років тому +1

      UA-cam: Show Less?
      Me: YES PLEASE

  • @prettyepicduck3641
    @prettyepicduck3641 5 років тому +500

    Zelda: I have the most complicated timeline!
    Kingdom of Hearts: Hold my Mickey Mouse

    • @beepboop05
      @beepboop05 5 років тому +25

      It should be, "Hold my keyblade."

    • @Nosidda
      @Nosidda 5 років тому +20

      I mean even Kingdom Hearts, as confusing as it is, has a definitive timeline that's one straight shot from start to finish. Zelda, on the other hand, is all over the place.

    • @theeastwind3772
      @theeastwind3772 5 років тому +8

      fnaf: hold my exotic butter

    • @ikemfg2223
      @ikemfg2223 5 років тому +4

      And Nier is Like: "Oh you naive little mini-Game Timelines"

    • @zanderoneil3405
      @zanderoneil3405 5 років тому +2

      Fortnite: hold my slurp juice in a couple of years

  • @nearzero12
    @nearzero12 5 років тому +625

    "The breath just got wilder."
    Oh yes i cant wait.

    • @antoniasalinas513
      @antoniasalinas513 4 роки тому +16

      LoZ: Death Of The Wild
      LoZ: The Breath On My Neck
      LoZ: The Breath Just Got Wilder
      LoZ: The Wildest Breath

    • @angryman...
      @angryman... 4 роки тому +6

      LoZ2: Phantom Breath

    • @leoyulis6760
      @leoyulis6760 4 роки тому +3

      *T H E W I L D E S T B R E A T H*

    • @RandoGamer947
      @RandoGamer947 4 роки тому

      LOZ2: THE AIR OF THE WILD
      LOZ3: THE WILDER BREATH

    • @cathysena2603
      @cathysena2603 4 роки тому +1

      cant wait to breath it in

  • @GoThroughTheLookingGlass
    @GoThroughTheLookingGlass 4 місяці тому +4

    I love how MatPat didn't bring up the fact that, in Hyrule Warriors, both Ravio and Marin are playable characters. Ravio is from a Link Between Worlds, and Marin is from Links Awakening, both games are from the Dowlfall timeline.

  • @brainiac2977
    @brainiac2977 5 років тому +296

    So link of the Hyrule warriors game is the hero of convergence? Sounds catchy

  • @Nemesis087B
    @Nemesis087B 5 років тому +442

    MatPat: I just made your timeline make sense, Nintendo.
    Nintendo: H-How did you do this? Why did you use a game that we said to discard?!
    Scott: Heh heh...

  • @lennycards
    @lennycards 5 років тому +337

    Matpat you should’ve compared hyrule warriors ganondorf with the mumified ganondorf in the trailer for botw 2. The design is strikingly similar

    • @HawksDellas
      @HawksDellas 5 років тому +1

      it wouldn't make sense do this comparation

    • @FaeCherry
      @FaeCherry 5 років тому

      Hawks why ?

    • @danielkim7495
      @danielkim7495 5 років тому +10

      It would make sense to but the botw2 trailer probably came recentky and matpat took a lot of time beforehand making the theory before the trailer came out

    • @zeltingle
      @zeltingle 5 років тому +1

      Exactly! It all makes sence now!!!!

    • @TooMuchGamba
      @TooMuchGamba 5 років тому +1

      I agree, because there is a strong resemblance there.

  • @High-Voltage17
    @High-Voltage17 2 роки тому +8

    With the Divine Beast reference from Midna and how the various Champions had been tasked to pilot (and/or train in) one, it reminds me of the dungeon Link can complete within the Shrine of Resurrection as part of the Champion's Ballad. I was extremely disappointed that the architecture was not in resemblance of a wolf! Such a missed opportunity!

  • @Robert-rw5lm
    @Robert-rw5lm 5 років тому +693

    so basically Ocarina of time acts like the divergence of the timelines and Hyrule Warriors is the convergence

    • @auramaster2068
      @auramaster2068 5 років тому +22

      I dislike convergence theory since its impossible you cant have all timelines combine sonce all contradict each other, the inevitable theory being that timelines are seperate but have same outcome makes more sense to me.

    • @traptanium1594
      @traptanium1594 5 років тому +8

      @@auramaster2068 it is possible

    • @CryWolf0651
      @CryWolf0651 5 років тому +39

      @@auramaster2068 you're thinking logically and scientifically, but anything is possible with magic so...

    • @dizzyx7
      @dizzyx7 5 років тому +10

      Auramaster 206yt In the end, it’s not all that necessary for the timelines to merge perfectly in this scenario, even without playing HW and just watching the visuals presented in MatPat’s video, you can see how this happened, entire locations got magically phased in an out of the entire landscape, and somethings just plain got replaced or destroyed... but I suppose that all got fixed anyway.

    • @RivkahSong
      @RivkahSong 5 років тому +11

      @@auramaster2068 But then that still wouldn't make sense. How would all three end the same way, separately, when you have one race appearing twice in two different forms (the Zorah and Rito), or how you see the Twilight mirror shards and can get Midna's helmet but the existence of the Rito and Koroks mean the world flooded and so Twilight Princess couldn't' have happened at the same time. It only all makes sense if the timeline is somehow brought back together, somehow.
      And with a high fantasy series with actual goddesses that exist and affect the world I'm not sure trying to apply scientific logic to it is gonna work. This is the same universe where a sentient moon nearly destroyed the planet, and even though it was literally only feet from hitting the ground the planet suffered no negative impact from the gravitational forces pulling at each other, at all.

  • @mr_fahrenheight1728
    @mr_fahrenheight1728 5 років тому +237

    Also, the Ganondorf in The BOTW2 trailer also has a crown and long, fiery hair, but no beard.

    • @thes.t.a.gprince9952
      @thes.t.a.gprince9952 5 років тому +10

      @Imagination yeah I don't think you have a beard when you've been mummified

    • @davidlarkin1040
      @davidlarkin1040 5 років тому +5

      @@thes.t.a.gprince9952 agreed, but to be fair, he has hair, so why no beard?

    • @sampreston1632
      @sampreston1632 5 років тому +1

      Liam_Lucario 13 hrs also a corpse......

    • @bestboi2945
      @bestboi2945 5 років тому +4

      I dont think thats Gannon

    • @MayanMaize
      @MayanMaize 5 років тому +3

      Link wanted a pelt and used the beard as his own in that timeline. That's why he woke up so angry

  • @mooselove
    @mooselove 5 років тому +175

    Actually... it’s Zelda Monopoly that connects them all.

  • @ebirdo5547
    @ebirdo5547 Рік тому +4

    2019 MatPat: "the Zelda timeline is one of the longest topics I've ever covered"
    The FNAF timeline: "am i a joke to you?"

  • @normalhuman1825
    @normalhuman1825 5 років тому +609

    Nintendo: Warriors is uncannon
    MatPat: Are you really the one in charge?

    • @gamman1
      @gamman1 5 років тому +10

      AYYYY'M IN CHARGE NOW!
      AYYYY'M IN CHARGE NOW!
      AYYYYY'M IN CHARGE NOW!
      Rip patches.

    • @kishorrane4753
      @kishorrane4753 5 років тому +2

      Mario

    • @shaan3512
      @shaan3512 5 років тому +4

      "Do you feel in charge?"

    • @darle7471
      @darle7471 5 років тому +3

      Cannon?

    • @jacc.c
      @jacc.c 5 років тому +9

      Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors is uncannon
      Matpat: I'm about to end this man's whole career

  • @teddyf.6974
    @teddyf.6974 5 років тому +383

    *brian david gilbert crawls from the ductwork* YOU MADE ME CARE ABOUT HYRULE WARRIORS

    • @MadridinNYC
      @MadridinNYC 5 років тому +13

      I was hoping someone would bring up BDG! hahah

    • @AgentSpyZap
      @AgentSpyZap 5 років тому +8

      Brian beat MatPat to this theory

    • @spaceman3913
      @spaceman3913 5 років тому +7

      LEGEND OF ZELDA MONOPOLY

    • @advent524
      @advent524 5 років тому +4

      @@AgentSpyZap I know right he did and now here he is trying to take credit like a slime bucket

    • @turtlelord8021
      @turtlelord8021 5 років тому +1

      @@advent524 maybe he didn't copy this theory because it's likely that they just had the same idea happens all the time

  • @tannersmith1218
    @tannersmith1218 5 років тому +129

    I normally don't agree with many ttimeline theories, and usually go with the "official" one, but this small addition is just perfection.

  • @petarmarjanovic4607
    @petarmarjanovic4607 3 роки тому +9

    *This damn storyline is more tangled up than my earphone cables after putting them in my pocket*

  • @severanceflames2201
    @severanceflames2201 5 років тому +426

    Kind of reminds me of Triforce... 3 different pieces of the story eventually become 1.

    • @alexp6667
      @alexp6667 5 років тому +12

      Shut the front door

    • @DarKSideF0X
      @DarKSideF0X 5 років тому +12

      You could be on to something!!!!

    • @IceInTheSoda
      @IceInTheSoda 5 років тому +17

      Either the creators of Ocarina of Time planned this, or it accidentally happened and the Zelda franchise was still able to make it work without anyone knowing it.

    • @etrock0856
      @etrock0856 5 років тому +39

      Actually it kind of makes sense, The Timeline of Power would be the defeated timeline where The Hero has to, time and again, defeat Ganon and his triforce of Power as the main goal of the game, overcoming the sheer power of Ganons dominion. The Child Timeline would be the Timeline of Wisdom where the hero is tasked with solving the complex problems of Hyrule/Twilight Realm often with a more direct role from the triforce of Wisdom bearer or princess. The Adult timeline is the Timeline of Courage where the Hero is often tasked with Exploring a vastly different and open worlds/times in an ever changing landscape with a focus on survival and exploration.
      Bear with me, what if in Ocarina of Time, the sages fractured the universe into a multiverse through the temple of time on purpose after Link defeated Ganon, creating the three possible paths in an attempt to separate the tri-force so that it could not exist in the same plane at the same time ever. Each timeline is governed by a single aspect of the Tri-force as planned by the Sages. However, they did not think that each Triforce piece had the power to create a representation of a full triforce in their respected universe. Since the triforce in each universe was created by a fragment of the original triforce they are far weaker though which lends itself the fact that the Ganons, and powers of the triforce wielders in the different timelines seem weaker and less all powerful.
      Once the multiverse is brought back together during the cataclysm of Hyrule Warriors, via the Triforce of Wisdom's manipulation of Cia's emotions, we now have a completed triforce back in a single plane of existence after a millennia of time. You see the Tri-Force is that, a force with three equal parts, it yearns to be whole, wants to be whole, so what if the Child Timeline was the Tri-force of wisdom nurturing and manipulating the abilities/heros/princesses, of its universe until they had the power to merge the multiverse back together.
      With the full power of the triforce available once again, it lead to both an era of great technological advancements, prosperity, and eventual doom. Ganon as a natural force of evil in the world was bound to be revived again after Hyrule warriors and when he was, he was taken down by The Hero and the Princess time and again until Ganons guile gave him the upper hand. The power of Ganon, the Princess, and the Hero in BoTW feel absolutely massive compared to many of the past games, because the Tri-Force is whole in this universe. Ganon can infect technology, is gargantuan, acting like a wild savage beast brimming with power. The Princess's light is able to hold Ganon for years upon years, containing most of his power to a single location, and The Hero in BoTW has an incredibly strong tool kit of powers thanks to his ability to harness the lessons and abilities/items gifted to him by the trials.
      This probably makes no sense but I had to type it out after I read your comment. And as nintendo says, as long as I can imagine it, it is true :D

    • @jaxonbrooks2932
      @jaxonbrooks2932 5 років тому +1

      Well Gannon has the power piece and is the ruler of the downfall timeline.... so the downfall timeline represents the power.

  • @hobbitgrace2355
    @hobbitgrace2355 5 років тому +176

    MatPat: Hyrule Warriors SHOULD be canon
    Brian David Gilbert: You made me use Hyrule Warriors!

    • @Crabgar
      @Crabgar 5 років тому

      @@shawnsuckstm3353 watch the polygon unraveled series
      not just the zelda video, just watch the entire playlist

  • @FlorianEagox
    @FlorianEagox 5 років тому +267

    "The breath just got wilder"
    I don't know why that killed me so bad omg

    • @artisticmothman
      @artisticmothman 5 років тому +13

      “The breath just got wilder” how it feels to chew five gum

    • @falciro
      @falciro 5 років тому +1

      Nintendo should consider that name

    • @CrispyTesticles
      @CrispyTesticles 5 років тому +1

      I bet BotW 2 is actually gonna be called
      Legend of Zelda
      The Wild is now choking

    • @michaelpimentel9076
      @michaelpimentel9076 5 років тому

      BOTW 2 will actually be called: The legend of zelda: breath of the wild: the breath was too wild to exist

    • @PokeMario-pk4ot
      @PokeMario-pk4ot 5 років тому

      If that is not the games subtitle, I am not getting it

  • @decaytale
    @decaytale 3 роки тому +46

    I always considered botw to be at the end of whatever timeliness you want it to be. Like, what split do you think is Canon? Okay. Cool. You like the games in a particular timeliness? Nice. Well congrats, this game falls at the end of it. You are continuing whatever timeline you loved the most. Like all of them? Interpret what you like. All that matters is that this continues it all

    • @tori54595
      @tori54595 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah, I think that's what Nintendo was going for mostly. Just a way to continue a timeline (any of the timelines) and to keep the game moving forward instead of having different games for different timelines

  • @Leo-qi9jv
    @Leo-qi9jv 5 років тому +520

    5:18
    "the happier side of the timeline"
    *sees Majora's Mask*
    huh...?

    • @giobal
      @giobal 5 років тому +34

      Well..........................it has a "Happy" ending if you *REALY* think about it.

    • @majorten-toes3906
      @majorten-toes3906 5 років тому +35

      Definitely not happy, poor HoT lives a life of regret because nobody knows of how he saved the damn world

    • @SenorFluffy
      @SenorFluffy 5 років тому +17

      It has the happy mask salesman

    • @markiolink
      @markiolink 5 років тому +11

      and twilight princess

    • @TD0150
      @TD0150 5 років тому +3

      Gerudo-Hylian War BRUH

  • @bulbasaur001
    @bulbasaur001 5 років тому +1003

    When all the BDG fans point out that MatPat forgot the most crucial game of all:
    *Legend of Zelda Monopoly*

    • @cadenrcr
      @cadenrcr 5 років тому +9

      Bulbasaur001 this is the best comment ever

    • @flashdr1ve
      @flashdr1ve 5 років тому +14

      legend of zelda monopoly was an instant classic my friend

    • @Mike-hq7wy
      @Mike-hq7wy 5 років тому +1

      Bulbasaur001 isn’t this a copied comment?

    • @melly4538
      @melly4538 5 років тому +1

      Copied from another comment but okay

    • @ViIvaNunner
      @ViIvaNunner 5 років тому +16

      The most important game is clearly Tingle's Rosy Rupee Land

  • @chickencrusade3886
    @chickencrusade3886 5 років тому +176

    Matpat on Endermen: "You guys really don't like it when I say stuff like "TODAY WE'RE SOLVING THIS!"
    Matpat on the VERY NEXT VIDEO: "WE'RE SOLVING THE ZELDA TIMELINE....... AGAIN"
    Love ya matpat :p

  • @superpigcat5954
    @superpigcat5954 3 роки тому +13

    I love this franchise and you just made my childhood better!!

  • @kurumi7658
    @kurumi7658 5 років тому +181

    OK, the community fixed the Nintendo's time-line.
    Now, Nintendo has to fix their Online for the community.
    Great video!

    • @teriinekoyama1369
      @teriinekoyama1369 5 років тому

      @@squidwardsquad Taking into account the joint theories between Nintendo Black Crisis and Zeltik, where they explore why another Ganondorf hadn't been born to the Gerudo tribe and tie it to that mummified corpse we see in the BotW sequel trailer. Either Ganondorf from the Warriors game was mummified there... or another Ganondorf born some centuries later is there.

  • @codyj54703
    @codyj54703 5 років тому +151

    I’m about to watch this, but let’s be honest, BDG ties the timeline together pretty flawlessly with Legend of Zelda Monopoly.

    • @corb805
      @corb805 5 років тому +2

      100% agree

    • @codyj54703
      @codyj54703 5 років тому +1

      Nintendo Overdrive Brian David Gilbert, he connects the entire Zelda timeline in one of his unraveled episodes over on Polygon’s channel

  • @garlicmayonnaise8615
    @garlicmayonnaise8615 5 років тому +683

    They still haven't mentioned Legend of Zelda Monopoly's position in the timeline. Cowards, the lot of them.

  • @vekkul
    @vekkul 3 роки тому +2

    Actually makes perfect sense and Age of Calamity doesn't interrupt this theory at all, you just put it after Hyrule Warriors and 100 years before BotW in the Reunited Timeline. Bravo.

  • @JamVsJam.
    @JamVsJam. 5 років тому +1097

    *One week later*
    Nintendo reveals that Hyrule Warriors is CANON!

    • @matthewmagnani2915
      @matthewmagnani2915 5 років тому +38

      We can dream. Problem is that the original characters from Warriors are owned by Koei Tecmo, not Nintendo. But again, we can dream.

    • @nuketwins4040
      @nuketwins4040 5 років тому +3

      I wish. Favorite game

    • @H2SO4pyro
      @H2SO4pyro 5 років тому +7

      Spiderman is now canon in the mcu, so yes, we can dream

    • @alexp6667
      @alexp6667 5 років тому +6

      @@H2SO4pyro Thats... not... never mind

    • @Svrahe
      @Svrahe 5 років тому +8

      Hyrule Warriors was bomb, it’s canon to me. xD I’m using my iiiimaaaginaaatioon.

  • @galaxyfam6471
    @galaxyfam6471 5 років тому +232

    This theory is interesting because it would also explain the locations in Breath of the Wild named after characters from all 3 timelines.

    • @someguy9496
      @someguy9496 5 років тому +4

      Wow really? I didn’t know! It’s not like any of us watched the video or anything...

    • @thorbre577
      @thorbre577 5 років тому +7

      @@someguy9496 Look, everybody! It's the party pooper! Here to ruin your day once more!

    • @someguy9496
      @someguy9496 5 років тому +1

      Thorbre r/woosh

    • @thorbre577
      @thorbre577 5 років тому +3

      @@someguy9496 Actually... r/woosh. You failed. Good day, sir.

    • @bungerbunger5878
      @bungerbunger5878 5 років тому

      SomeBored Boi r/ihavereddit

  • @Palliser99
    @Palliser99 5 років тому +311

    MatPat: I fixed the Zelda timeline
    PeanutButterGamer Wants To Know Your Location

  • @michaelplantarich3375
    @michaelplantarich3375 Рік тому +4

    Considering they said Warriors is non-cannon, I wonder if Tears of the Kingdom will be the game that unites them all? I think I've heard it's supposed to be pre-breathe, so it would potentially fit there. Curious to see when it comes out next month!
    Love rewatching these old videos. Less to see "how wrong you were" as a lot of comments do, but really to see how the games and channel have grown. It's great to see, and I'm happy to be along for the ride!