Thank you for all the info on these pool robot models. I like buying the best I can find and knowing the differences is extremely helpful. Now I'm looking at a local store that does the serving and sales for the model I want. Thanks again for the info.
This is by far one of the best explanations that totally untangles the terribly confusing mass of model options at the maytronics website. I also now understand why the premier is ranked the best by some very knowledgable sounding commentators. Thank you. If pelicon was in my state i would be there tomorrow buying my robot. I am not sure yet if i’m going to splurge on the e70 or go with the m400, but now the choice is so much clearer. I subscribed!!!!
pelican does ship nationwide and they cover any cost of shipping to get to them for any warranty issues so id definitley still consider them as not a lot of places offer that and free labor. thanks for the subscribe Alicia!
M400 is a great value compared to other similar priced units. if you want to save $100 compared to an E70 the M600 is the same thing minus the thermostat. also I have a coupon code for them in the comments of the 2023 version of this video :)
Thank you for being very helpful. This is the best overall guide video explaining Dolphin pool cleaners. I spoke with John at Pelicanshops who was also very helpful. I ended up purchasing the Dolphin S200 model…… waiting for it to arrive tomorrow and trying it out.
Thank you for this. I often wondered why a lot of online stores and UA-cam channels were only pushing the Nautilus, Premier and Sigma. When reading a lot of Amazon reviews, the biggest complaints was customer service and repair waits.
You hit the nail on the head. I cant stress how important it is to try to buy from an authorized service center like the one I linked. Not many out there anymore unfortunately. Stores got comfortable just handing them off to maytronics for the problems :/
By the way, as an update, in case it helps anyone decide: I ended up buying the Dolphin Formula 30. I was expecting more for the 830 euros spent (975€ regular price). This thing won’t clean the walls (falls off half the time) nor the waterline (starts going sideways, but won’t go very far). The fine filter gathers stuff, but most of it goes back to the pull through the propeller. In the slope through the longitudinal axis, it kind of goes ‘crazy’ many times and kind of goes floating around. In my opinion, not a good investment (i was weary of buying a cheap alternative, but they don’t seem so bad anymore.
Thanks for your honest description and explanations. Well done. Proteus dx3. Love it price was right I have both a ultra fine basket and a fine basket.
I recently purchased the cc plus from Amazon before coming across your video. I realize I don’t have anywhere your depth of knowledge but as I watch this thing navigate around the pool it comes right up to the waterline and goes as far as it can before it hits a obstruction, so I’m confused when everyone says they don’t do the waterline. Even the instructions say it doesn’t do that. But nevertheless, it does it in my inground pool. Now I am concerned about only having a fine filter and I’m wondering if there are any workarounds for that
in some pools it can manage to do it. Very rarely though. it isnt consistent so Maytronics cant advertise it. the way the motor is weighted its heavier on one side so it tends to lean and not go straight up..... Ultra fine filters can be purchased online I believe the part number is 9991432-ASSY
Thank you for the informative video. For an novice buyer, it is really helpful to have this level of detail. Many of the models appear to use filters which work well for finer debris. What's unclear is if these models work well in pools which are subjected to flower drop in the spring and falling leaves, especially in the fall. The Polaris pressure side sweepers with a bag are pretty good at picking up leaves, but have their own negatives. Are some models better than others at picking up leaves as well as finer debris?
Any of these models can get debris like that. I would just use the "fine" filters instead of the "ultra fine". All the brick and mortar options have both in box
Thanks. The best guide I found on Dolphins! Now it's clear that the different models that look alike are actually the same product, just branded differently! I have one question: do the control units all run only on 110v or do some of them run on universal voltage - 100-250V? I ask because I am thinking of buying this for use overseas, where the voltage is 240V.
Thank You , the information is invaluable. One of the Dolphin models that comes up often in the Canadian market is Pantier 200/300 I wonder where it fits on your chart with other models. Thank You
Id be cautious with "a LOT of leaves" Id get any obvious piles out with a deep net. You need a basket model for more than regular amounts so it can handle it a tad bit more before considering itself "full". more strain on the motor means it wont last as long just be mindful of that.
One model I didn’t see you mention is the Cayman. Where does it fall in the list? I was able to find a deal for $700 with nano filters included, but I’m not sure how you rate it on your chart.
It is below the Cc plus. it is considered an above ground unit so I did not include on this chart (mostly because I could not fit it.) i have an updated chart with it on there on pelicans website pelicanshops1.com/pages/dolphin-comparison-info ... It will be on next years video! you definitley need the ultra fine filters. It should be selling for $599 without filters.
Do all the dolphin models with the large basket use the same basket? My Quantum died and I want to buy a model with the same basket, so I have an extra basket for ultra fine filter. Thanks.
Id say its indifferent. usually, 2 brushes is just fine. Im assuming it doesnt make that much of a difference if they cut that feature from the M600 which is supposed to be better all around. M400 has more parts due to this brush, if you keep it in the pool 24/7 its just more parts that could go wrong down the line from chlorine eating at it. I always suggest take it out when not in use anyway.
M200 has been retired since 2019. But it wouldve fallen into the same category as the nautilus cc plus. keep in mind this video is outdated. (2022 version) the 2024 version is up on the channel with more up to date info
@@thedolphindoctor I reviewed this and the 24 video - no mention of a M200 from what I can see in the slides. (exceptional content!!) I was gifted an M200 with the fine filter cartridges. The literature seems to suggest this is a bottom-cleaning robot only, correct? I see that it actually cleans the sides of my inground 17x35 AS WELL it can scrub the waterline to a decent degree. So I wonder if there is such a thing as a "late" or 'upgraded' M200 with more functionality? I'm very happy with this functionality for sure. Thanks for the insights!
@@jimgeneva2464 I do not include the discontinued models. it was discontinued in 2019 so it would not be in the 2022 video. M200 cleans the floor and walls but does not do dedicated waterline scrubbing. It was never just a floor only model.
they are good robots. from working on both brands Id say the quality is on dolphins side. More importantly there are less parts in a dolphin compared to a polaris. I always questioned how there are so many parts involved compared to dolphin. In my mind its more that can go wrong.
No cleaner is designed to do steps. As for sun shelf, it depends on how wide and 8".... you would want to go with active 20 ,s200 or active 30 or s300. The motors sits a bit lower. You need the fan to be submerged to provide suction. 8" is a tough call though
Which out of these 2 would you suggest... maytronicss100 vs dolphin e10? The maytronics has the little caddy with it. Someone is seeking it for 250 and e10 is 200. I have an above ground pool.
So I almost went with the Premier, but it seems the S300/T45/Active 30 are better? I'm even more confused now. If money was no object and what you wanted was the best performance, period, which ones would be the ones to consider? Top 2 or 3 list?
Glad you found the video! yes premier tends to be overpriced higher then that $1199 MSRP. S300 etc would do just as well in my opinion plus it comes with the cart and wifi. BEST performance though will be M400 or M600/Active 60. The best "bang for your buck" would be s300(or equivalents), m400 and m600 plus they all come with the ultra fine filters and the better dealer support if you buy from someone like pelican who I have in the video
s300 is great for the price it's at. if you want more suction and a longer warranty then Id say M400. If you want the performance and warranty of the M400 mixed with the convenience of the basket then go M600.
@@thedolphindoctor thank you so much for this video. All of UA-cam seems like a marketing video for the Sigma and Premier so I really had nothing to go on. I’m in the final stages of pool construction on my first pool so have no experience and the robots that seems to have the best ratings are Sigma and Premier but I was always suspicious because the Premier is so old and the thing the tout with it (leaf bag) seems ridiculous because it’s not as if the bag is allowed to expand inside. It has to conform to the same basic shape as the cartridges so you’re not really getting much more capacity and seems like a gimmick. I have a little bit more research to do thanks to your video. You’ve given me much more to consider and doesn’t seem like I’ll be going with the Premier. Thank you!
no problem blakcloud. Sorry if It made your decision harder lol! Premier and sigma seem to be marketed a lot on youtube but those are definitely a bit biased (Thats what partially made me want to make this video and shed some light on that). Anything else you have questions on feel free to reach out!
@@blakcloud2561 Same. My pool will be finished this week, and I'm struggling to make a decision. The Premier and Sigma seemed like good choices until you read the reviews and consider the mark up in price. I remember the Premier was $1200 on Amazon when I signed my pool contract last year.
This is probably true but I clean the filters really well because I had a little bit of leaves and D in it and the pump was really strong and it seem to climb the walls fine ironically as soon as it gets a little bit of dirt it doesn’t wanna climb with the pools clean it works
I'm curious how beneficial WiFi is to the decision between, say, the Active 20 and Active 30? Reviews of comments regarding the Maytronics apps on my smartphone suggests they're not worth the trouble. Is this your experience? Is the caddy the more significant addition of value, rather than the WiFi "ability"?
I value caddy higher then Wifi. Wifi is more for convenience. Its more substantial on models with many customization features such as S400 or M600 where you might want to change cleaning cycle aspects.
Great video! Thanks very much for it. The Sigma I purchased on Amazon keeps getting stuck on the bench corners and step corners. I am now concidering replacing it with E70. Do you think it will help with the "stuck" problem? Thank you.
I purchased the sigma and it also gets stuck on my step corner, super annoying! I decided to go to my local store and they have a M600 Demo model and I have been testing all day and it hasn't gotten stuck once. Also, it actually climbs all my steps up to my tanning ledge! So, either the M600 or E70 should work for you.
any nautilus cc would be better. sharkvac only having 1 year warranty is terrible. Also Hayward could be a real pain with warrantys. their designs are often overcomplicated with more parts that could possibly go wrong. Id go dolphin everytime. I would say however the dolphin E30 is better than the cc. E30 will do waterline scrubbing and has the basket design for only $100 more or so.
Amazon teamed up with asurion to provide extended warranty after the manufacturer one runs out. Any thoughts or experience with that? I have my phone insurance through them and they've always been great. It's quite tempting to want to do the online purchase now with this reasonably priced extended warranty. Esp after my dolphin nautilus broke (motor died) at 2.75 years when we had manufacturer warranty up to 2.5 years🤦♀️.
You would still need to send it to maytronics which peak season takes a long time. Id still buy from a dealer. Usually maytronics will honor warranties within a month or two especially when a service center submits it for you. I know pelican does all the work and its free shipping. I personally dont like extended warranty companies as most times they always have exceptions and things that void it. Shady.
Do you know which ones have gyroscopes? I have been looking at the e70 and the 2022 sigma. You know how the sigma has the float on it? I am wondering if it helps it get up higher or its not worth it?
The way the E70 is designed and any model for that doesnt have a float handle are designed to not need it. Instead that have floats and even weights in key areas on the robot to help with the buoyancy. That being said SIGMA is often overpriced online so be watchful of that. should only be 1499 or so. not 1699..... it doesnt even come with a cart. E70 is a better value. you could even go down to an m600 which is the same unit without the thermostat. you would save $100 that way.
Hope you guys found this interesting and helpful. If this helped you alls i ask in return is a subscribe as it helps me out immensely! ALSO The m400 is $1549 not $1499 the slide had the wrong price but the chart is correct :)
I just got the M400 I have a Vinyl line true L built in pool it only climbs the walls to the top in the 1st hour or so then it climbs to the top only in one direction the other way it just hits the wall and bounces of it won’t always stand up When I check the filters they. Are mostly clean just some dust and 1 or 2 Leafs this is with the ultra fine filters with the fine filters it works fine and even with one of each filters fine on one side and ultra fine I. The other side it seems to climb to the water line fine Thinking of changing to the wonder brush any ideas? I had a blue diamond before this and it climbed almost out of the pool I even put weights on it and it had foam rollers Thanks Mark
That does seem strange. I will say this the first few times it goes it will be measuring the pool so it will go until it hits a wall and then reverse while tracking how long it takes to get to the next wall and so on. I would give it a few more tries. I dont think the wonder brush would make a difference. If the problem presists i would go to your dealer and have them submit the 30 day bad out of box claim so you can get it swapped. Once in a while it happens with any model. Another thought is manually brush the walls. If its been a while since u had a robot in there or did any brushing you could have slippery walls from microscopic algea leading to the unit to struggle. Im suprised it hasnt gotten much. Thats usually one of the top guys when it comes to filtering. I would check impellar as well
Thanks for your reply my wall were brushed down and I have always had a robot in my pool if it was the walls why would it climb in at first hour or so or without the ultra fine filters
@@markgoldberg1231 just brainstorming and putting idea down as i type obviously not saying thats what it is but all those things are reasons i have seen in the past for similar issues so thats why i only mention. I would contact your store then and have them do a swap. Because it should be preforming a lot better.
The premier works just fine. As an engineer, the bottom load design does not bother me at all. Sure, top load would be a tiny bit better, but definitely not a reason to reject.
Indeed. Just gotta be careful of the companies who charge way over msrp riding the coattails of its popularity from amazon. Should sell fot 1199. Sellers on Amazon selling it for 1499 could get a better value from a better bot
AS OF September 1st, 2022 all the MSRP prices have gone up by $50 or so. So the chart on the video shows a older price. so for example and E70 now sells for $1999 instead of the old price of $1949!
It’s almost hard to believe it’s the motor it runs well it cleans the bottom really good it just tries to climb the wall and goes over the siding I’ll go up a foot maybe or not even and then turn sideways and then come right off the wall and it goes the other way it won’t really climb at all but yet it’s that only happens when he gets a little bit of dirt in there
It wont always go all the way up the wall everytime. it will circle back. Theres always a method to the madness with these things. Its hard to tell without seein it :/
My system is blue for the first 10 minutes then it’s blue green when it shuts off it’s green and then sometimes it goes green yellow it looks like blinking I’ve never seen yellow or orange Street without blinking
Maybe you can answer this you know I’m the blue on the start button when I first turn it on it’s blue then after about 10 or 15 minutes it blinks blue and green no one seems to know why it shuts off it’s green or green and yellow is this normal I’m talking about the Wi-Fi the Wi-Fi is solid green
Green blinking is basiclly telling you its on a timer. Yellow/orange constant (not blinking) means the filters full. Green blue and red is when its doing a software update
Thank you for all the info on these pool robot models. I like buying the best I can find and knowing the differences is extremely helpful. Now I'm looking at a local store that does the serving and sales for the model I want. Thanks again for the info.
Glad you found it helpful
Best unbiased review of these unites I have come across. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
THANK YOU. It's all about finding them at the right price.
Man this is what I have been looking for all over the internet.
Thank you very much!
no problem!
This is by far one of the best explanations that totally untangles the terribly confusing mass of model options at the maytronics website. I also now understand why the premier is ranked the best by some very knowledgable sounding commentators. Thank you. If pelicon was in my state i would be there tomorrow buying my robot. I am not sure yet if i’m going to splurge on the e70 or go with the m400, but now the choice is so much clearer. I subscribed!!!!
pelican does ship nationwide and they cover any cost of shipping to get to them for any warranty issues so id definitley still consider them as not a lot of places offer that and free labor. thanks for the subscribe Alicia!
M400 is a great value compared to other similar priced units. if you want to save $100 compared to an E70 the M600 is the same thing minus the thermostat. also I have a coupon code for them in the comments of the 2023 version of this video :)
Thank you for being very helpful. This is the best overall guide video explaining Dolphin pool cleaners. I spoke with John at Pelicanshops who was also very helpful. I ended up purchasing the Dolphin S200 model…… waiting for it to arrive tomorrow and trying it out.
Thank you for this. I often wondered why a lot of online stores and UA-cam channels were only pushing the Nautilus, Premier and Sigma. When reading a lot of Amazon reviews, the biggest complaints was customer service and repair waits.
You hit the nail on the head. I cant stress how important it is to try to buy from an authorized service center like the one I linked. Not many out there anymore unfortunately. Stores got comfortable just handing them off to maytronics for the problems :/
Thank you very much! The model numbers were confusing me and you've answered all the questions I had hahaha!
Thank you so much. This was a great explanation of all the many models I have been trying to differentiate
Thanks! Be sure to check the 2023 edition as this video is the 2022 so some info is different!
Excellent review.
Really informative. The best objective review for prospective purchasing. Answered some questions not even broached in other reviews. Cheers
thanks! glad it helped
Thanks for this thorough guide... I was so confused by all the models and "versions" I'm shopping from Europe, but this helped a lot anyways!
By the way, as an update, in case it helps anyone decide: I ended up buying the Dolphin Formula 30.
I was expecting more for the 830 euros spent (975€ regular price). This thing won’t clean the walls (falls off half the time) nor the waterline (starts going sideways, but won’t go very far). The fine filter gathers stuff, but most of it goes back to the pull through the propeller. In the slope through the longitudinal axis, it kind of goes ‘crazy’ many times and kind of goes floating around.
In my opinion, not a good investment (i was weary of buying a cheap alternative, but they don’t seem so bad anymore.
Very informative. It helps me to choose even though we have different models here in Australia.
Thanks for your honest description and explanations. Well done. Proteus dx3. Love it price was right I have both a ultra fine basket and a fine basket.
Awesome! Did it come with both?
@@thedolphindoctor it did not I added to ultra fine it was 80$.
I recently purchased the cc plus from Amazon before coming across your video. I realize I don’t have anywhere your depth of knowledge but as I watch this thing navigate around the pool it comes right up to the waterline and goes as far as it can before it hits a obstruction, so I’m confused when everyone says they don’t do the waterline. Even the instructions say it doesn’t do that. But nevertheless, it does it in my inground pool. Now I am concerned about only having a fine filter and I’m wondering if there are any workarounds for that
in some pools it can manage to do it. Very rarely though. it isnt consistent so Maytronics cant advertise it. the way the motor is weighted its heavier on one side so it tends to lean and not go straight up..... Ultra fine filters can be purchased online I believe the part number is 9991432-ASSY
Thank you for the informative video. For an novice buyer, it is really helpful to have this level of detail. Many of the models appear to use filters which work well for finer debris. What's unclear is if these models work well in pools which are subjected to flower drop in the spring and falling leaves, especially in the fall. The Polaris pressure side sweepers with a bag are pretty good at picking up leaves, but have their own negatives. Are some models better than others at picking up leaves as well as finer debris?
Any of these models can get debris like that. I would just use the "fine" filters instead of the "ultra fine". All the brick and mortar options have both in box
I think I will go with the S300 model.... thanks for the info!
Thanks. The best guide I found on Dolphins! Now it's clear that the different models that look alike are actually the same product, just branded differently! I have one question: do the control units all run only on 110v or do some of them run on universal voltage - 100-250V? I ask because I am thinking of buying this for use overseas, where the voltage is 240V.
Thank You , the information is invaluable. One of the Dolphin models that comes up often in the Canadian market is Pantier 200/300 I wonder where it fits on your chart with other models. Thank You
What is the best for leaves (a LOT of leaves)...from small white oak to giant sycamore.
Id be cautious with "a LOT of leaves" Id get any obvious piles out with a deep net. You need a basket model for more than regular amounts so it can handle it a tad bit more before considering itself "full". more strain on the motor means it wont last as long just be mindful of that.
One model I didn’t see you mention is the Cayman. Where does it fall in the list? I was able to find a deal for $700 with nano filters included, but I’m not sure how you rate it on your chart.
It is below the Cc plus. it is considered an above ground unit so I did not include on this chart (mostly because I could not fit it.) i have an updated chart with it on there on pelicans website pelicanshops1.com/pages/dolphin-comparison-info ... It will be on next years video! you definitley need the ultra fine filters. It should be selling for $599 without filters.
Do all the dolphin models with the large basket use the same basket? My Quantum died and I want to buy a model with the same basket, so I have an extra basket for ultra fine filter. Thanks.
Anything from the E30 and up with a basket use the same one
I guess I have a older model then all the ones in ur videos I been tryin to find the model number to find info about the one I have
does it have a name on it somehwere? What does it look most alike to and what colors are they??
Thanks
Thanks you so much for the video !
Does the M400 third brush makes a difference to the M600? Which one would you recommend between the two?
Id say its indifferent. usually, 2 brushes is just fine. Im assuming it doesnt make that much of a difference if they cut that feature from the M600 which is supposed to be better all around. M400 has more parts due to this brush, if you keep it in the pool 24/7 its just more parts that could go wrong down the line from chlorine eating at it. I always suggest take it out when not in use anyway.
M200 - is that retired?
What are its features, which column would this fall into? Thank you!
M200 has been retired since 2019. But it wouldve fallen into the same category as the nautilus cc plus. keep in mind this video is outdated. (2022 version) the 2024 version is up on the channel with more up to date info
@@thedolphindoctor I reviewed this and the 24 video - no mention of a M200 from what I can see in the slides. (exceptional content!!)
I was gifted an M200 with the fine filter cartridges. The literature seems to suggest this is a bottom-cleaning robot only, correct? I see that it actually cleans the sides of my inground 17x35 AS WELL it can scrub the waterline to a decent degree. So I wonder if there is such a thing as a "late" or 'upgraded' M200 with more functionality? I'm very happy with this functionality for sure. Thanks for the insights!
@@jimgeneva2464 I do not include the discontinued models. it was discontinued in 2019 so it would not be in the 2022 video. M200 cleans the floor and walls but does not do dedicated waterline scrubbing. It was never just a floor only model.
Do you have opinions on the high Polaris robotic cleaners?
they are good robots. from working on both brands Id say the quality is on dolphins side. More importantly there are less parts in a dolphin compared to a polaris. I always questioned how there are so many parts involved compared to dolphin. In my mind its more that can go wrong.
@@thedolphindoctor - is there a Pelican store in the Pensacola Florida area? I would like to upgrade cleaners.
@@SuperShawn2020 no but they ship all over the country. free shipping and that also includes the warranty shipping.
Is the T55i in the same category as S400 / Active 40?
nope its an older version. it would the same as the S300i. they dont make it anymore as far as I know for this upcoming year
Thank you
Which of these will clean steps and an 8” deep sunshelf?
No cleaner is designed to do steps. As for sun shelf, it depends on how wide and 8".... you would want to go with active 20 ,s200 or active 30 or s300. The motors sits a bit lower. You need the fan to be submerged to provide suction. 8" is a tough call though
Which out of these 2 would you suggest... maytronicss100 vs dolphin e10? The maytronics has the little caddy with it. Someone is seeking it for 250 and e10 is 200. I have an above ground pool.
s100 is the better cleaner as it will do the walls of the pool. E10 will only do floor and lower walls
@@thedolphindoctor will the s100 be okay in above ground pool? I have the coleman Vista series 2 pool. Thanks for fast reply!!!
I had a Quantum that just spent most of the time in the pool popping wheelies and turning 15 degrees, over and over again.
Sorry for the late reply. Could've been an air bubble. Did you find one you liked?
So I almost went with the Premier, but it seems the S300/T45/Active 30 are better? I'm even more confused now. If money was no object and what you wanted was the best performance, period, which ones would be the ones to consider? Top 2 or 3 list?
Glad you found the video! yes premier tends to be overpriced higher then that $1199 MSRP. S300 etc would do just as well in my opinion plus it comes with the cart and wifi. BEST performance though will be M400 or M600/Active 60. The best "bang for your buck" would be s300(or equivalents), m400 and m600 plus they all come with the ultra fine filters and the better dealer support if you buy from someone like pelican who I have in the video
s300 is great for the price it's at. if you want more suction and a longer warranty then Id say M400. If you want the performance and warranty of the M400 mixed with the convenience of the basket then go M600.
@@thedolphindoctor thank you so much for this video. All of UA-cam seems like a marketing video for the Sigma and Premier so I really had nothing to go on. I’m in the final stages of pool construction on my first pool so have no experience and the robots that seems to have the best ratings are Sigma and Premier but I was always suspicious because the Premier is so old and the thing the tout with it (leaf bag) seems ridiculous because it’s not as if the bag is allowed to expand inside. It has to conform to the same basic shape as the cartridges so you’re not really getting much more capacity and seems like a gimmick. I have a little bit more research to do thanks to your video. You’ve given me much more to consider and doesn’t seem like I’ll be going with the Premier. Thank you!
no problem blakcloud. Sorry if It made your decision harder lol! Premier and sigma seem to be marketed a lot on youtube but those are definitely a bit biased (Thats what partially made me want to make this video and shed some light on that). Anything else you have questions on feel free to reach out!
@@blakcloud2561 Same. My pool will be finished this week, and I'm struggling to make a decision. The Premier and Sigma seemed like good choices until you read the reviews and consider the mark up in price. I remember the Premier was $1200 on Amazon when I signed my pool contract last year.
This is probably true but I clean the filters really well because I had a little bit of leaves and D in it and the pump was really strong and it seem to climb the walls fine ironically as soon as it gets a little bit of dirt it doesn’t wanna climb with the pools clean it works
I'm curious how beneficial WiFi is to the decision between, say, the Active 20 and Active 30? Reviews of comments regarding the Maytronics apps on my smartphone suggests they're not worth the trouble. Is this your experience? Is the caddy the more significant addition of value, rather than the WiFi "ability"?
I value caddy higher then Wifi. Wifi is more for convenience. Its more substantial on models with many customization features such as S400 or M600 where you might want to change cleaning cycle aspects.
I have an oval 18x33x52 Johnny Weissmuller above ground pool. Is the M400 overkill for this pool or the perfect choice? Love your video!
It would be fine. Its your best bet and value if you want wifi, 3 motors and the 3 year warranty
Great video! Thanks very much for it.
The Sigma I purchased on Amazon keeps getting stuck on the bench corners and step corners.
I am now concidering replacing it with E70. Do you think it will help with the "stuck" problem?
Thank you.
I do believe it will. I believe it had a wider stance.
I purchased the sigma and it also gets stuck on my step corner, super annoying! I decided to go to my local store and they have a M600 Demo model and I have been testing all day and it hasn't gotten stuck once. Also, it actually climbs all my steps up to my tanning ledge! So, either the M600 or E70 should work for you.
Sharkvac vs dolphin nautillus cc?
any nautilus cc would be better. sharkvac only having 1 year warranty is terrible. Also Hayward could be a real pain with warrantys. their designs are often overcomplicated with more parts that could possibly go wrong. Id go dolphin everytime. I would say however the dolphin E30 is better than the cc. E30 will do waterline scrubbing and has the basket design for only $100 more or so.
Amazon teamed up with asurion to provide extended warranty after the manufacturer one runs out. Any thoughts or experience with that? I have my phone insurance through them and they've always been great. It's quite tempting to want to do the online purchase now with this reasonably priced extended warranty. Esp after my dolphin nautilus broke (motor died) at 2.75 years when we had manufacturer warranty up to 2.5 years🤦♀️.
You would still need to send it to maytronics which peak season takes a long time. Id still buy from a dealer. Usually maytronics will honor warranties within a month or two especially when a service center submits it for you. I know pelican does all the work and its free shipping. I personally dont like extended warranty companies as most times they always have exceptions and things that void it. Shady.
Do you know which ones have gyroscopes? I have been looking at the e70 and the 2022 sigma. You know how the sigma has the float on it? I am wondering if it helps it get up higher or its not worth it?
The way the E70 is designed and any model for that doesnt have a float handle are designed to not need it. Instead that have floats and even weights in key areas on the robot to help with the buoyancy. That being said SIGMA is often overpriced online so be watchful of that. should only be 1499 or so. not 1699..... it doesnt even come with a cart. E70 is a better value. you could even go down to an m600 which is the same unit without the thermostat. you would save $100 that way.
Hope you guys found this interesting and helpful. If this helped you alls i ask in return is a subscribe as it helps me out immensely! ALSO The m400 is $1549 not $1499 the slide had the wrong price but the chart is correct :)
I just got the M400 I have a Vinyl line true L built in pool it only climbs the walls to the top in the 1st hour or so then it climbs to the top only in one direction the other way it just hits the wall and bounces of it won’t always stand up
When I check the filters they. Are mostly clean just some dust and 1 or 2 Leafs this is with the ultra fine filters with the fine filters it works fine and even with one of each filters fine on one side and ultra fine I. The other side it seems to climb to the water line fine
Thinking of changing to the wonder brush any ideas?
I had a blue diamond before this and it climbed almost out of the pool I even put weights on it and it had foam rollers
Thanks
Mark
That does seem strange. I will say this the first few times it goes it will be measuring the pool so it will go until it hits a wall and then reverse while tracking how long it takes to get to the next wall and so on. I would give it a few more tries. I dont think the wonder brush would make a difference. If the problem presists i would go to your dealer and have them submit the 30 day bad out of box claim so you can get it swapped. Once in a while it happens with any model. Another thought is manually brush the walls. If its been a while since u had a robot in there or did any brushing you could have slippery walls from microscopic algea leading to the unit to struggle. Im suprised it hasnt gotten much. Thats usually one of the top guys when it comes to filtering. I would check impellar as well
Thanks for your reply my wall were brushed down and I have always had a robot in my pool if it was the walls why would it climb in at first hour or so or without the ultra fine filters
@@markgoldberg1231 just brainstorming and putting idea down as i type obviously not saying thats what it is but all those things are reasons i have seen in the past for similar issues so thats why i only mention. I would contact your store then and have them do a swap. Because it should be preforming a lot better.
The premier works just fine. As an engineer, the bottom load design does not bother me at all. Sure, top load would be a tiny bit better, but definitely not a reason to reject.
Indeed. Just gotta be careful of the companies who charge way over msrp riding the coattails of its popularity from amazon. Should sell fot 1199. Sellers on Amazon selling it for 1499 could get a better value from a better bot
AS OF September 1st, 2022 all the MSRP prices have gone up by $50 or so. So the chart on the video shows a older price. so for example and E70 now sells for $1999 instead of the old price of $1949!
It’s almost hard to believe it’s the motor it runs well it cleans the bottom really good it just tries to climb the wall and goes over the siding I’ll go up a foot maybe or not even and then turn sideways and then come right off the wall and it goes the other way it won’t really climb at all but yet it’s that only happens when he gets a little bit of dirt in there
It wont always go all the way up the wall everytime. it will circle back. Theres always a method to the madness with these things. Its hard to tell without seein it :/
If you don’t think it’s the brushes and not the motor there’s not much else left it’s pretty much the whole system
My system is blue for the first 10 minutes then it’s blue green when it shuts off it’s green and then sometimes it goes green yellow it looks like blinking I’ve never seen yellow or orange Street without blinking
If it was a motor issue it would turn red.
Maybe you can answer this you know I’m the blue on the start button when I first turn it on it’s blue then after about 10 or 15 minutes it blinks blue and green no one seems to know why it shuts off it’s green or green and yellow is this normal I’m talking about the Wi-Fi the Wi-Fi is solid green
Green blinking is basiclly telling you its on a timer. Yellow/orange constant (not blinking) means the filters full. Green blue and red is when its doing a software update
Something tells me that you own a pool store
I work on them as a repair tech
Is there way I can message you privately?
not to sure. Dont see an option on youtube. (Im new to this) What kind of question did you have?