In all the years of owning cars-and I've had Cosworths, Subaru STis, Evos etc, I never once thought to myself ''I Know what would improve my car owning experience, no key to start instead have a stop/start button''. Car manufactures should bring back the key & starter to start the car and ditch the key less push button start. They should also bring back the 'double lock' on the doors like I think Vauxhall used to do, ie you put the alarm on with the fob which locks the doors but you could also put the key in the lock & 'double lock' the doors, making it impossible to open the doors without a key. In this day and age cars should be more secure than they were in the car thief heydays of the 1980s and 90s but really they are much easier to steal now.
Very true. They've basically provided a solution to a problem that nobody asked for, and like most modern things, made it far more complicated than needed.
Most cars nowadays can’t be opened from the inside without a key but some smartarse with a computer can easily circumvent that along with coding a new key
Our old Avensis had the double press to deadlock feature (doors won't open from inside). But our newer MK3 Seat Leon does it every time with one press. When we first bought it I got trapped inside and the alarm set off. That's why it says "Check Safelock! Owners manual!" on the display every time. There is a way to escape via the boot lock if you slide the key in a slot or remove a panel (estate). It needs two presses on the key to lock just the outside and disables the alarm. So you could leave someone inside.
I just bought a new dacia. The key doesn't even have a keyring. It's pure sh1te. I never thought they could make something so lame. No way to attach a keyring. No.pouch for it. No where for you to put it in the car. Just had to stay in your pocket. Its been designed by students who think we need this keyless tech. We do not need that stupid tard crap. Bring back the key with a keyring please 👍👍
Agreed - The steering wheel itself becomes the weak point. A couple of minutes' work to cut through the rim of the steering wheel and the Stoplock simply lifts away, leaving the car perfectly driveable and only needing a new steering wheel (which can be done at the thief's convenience hours, days or even weeks later) before it can be sold on. I've seen a video here on YT where a guy had his Alfa Romeo Guilia stolen from outside his house, all captured on CCTV. It took the thieves just a couple of minutes to bypass the fancy electronics of the car and about 30 seconds to cut through the steering wheel with hand tools to remove the Stoplock (which they thoughtfully placed, still locked and 100% intact, on the ground). The issue with the Disklok though is that the car can (with a bit of jiggling) still be driven a short distance even with the Disklok in place (provided you can defeat the standard steering column lock!), so can be removed to a safe place where the thief can get to work with a grinder etc undetected.
@@TheRoybeasley Totally agree, but I think it's fairly diicult to defeat the standard steering lock with it in place, the main problem with the disklok, is it's awkward, heavy, and a "pita" to store in the car when not in use,, Apart from that, it's a good way of getting a bit of peace of mind, when it's on,, cheers buddy,,
Stoplock is good, but if installed wrong, the tieves can just bascially cut the steering wheel itself to get rid of the lock. If installed properly than you need to cut the steering wheel in 2 places(This is way too much effort and time for them to get rid of that thing). This method + an another anti-theft product can make your car safe form thieves but not 100% remember this, especially if you a have a newer car... You need multi-layered defense. Newer cars have this feature called keyless-entry. It is all nice and good, until some crazy good and experienced thieves found your car. They can easily steal it in seconds. So what i recommend is that, if you have a keyless-entry car, make sure you turn that feature off(You can do that, instructions in the car handbook), then install the steering wheel lock PROPERLY, than lock your car and place your key(s) into a faraday cage inside your home. Still not 100% safe, but the effort to brake into your car is too much.. So basically they need to brake into your car by smashing a window(The car alarm will go off if it is fitted with one), than they have to make a new key for your car(Any modern cars have an OBD connector or how is it called, bascially you can acces to the car computer) thieves have a device which will create a new key for your car if they plug that thing in(until they configure a new key which is i believe less than a minute, the car alarms are still screaming) then they will have to deal with the steering wheel lock. Not worth for them. Too much effort, too much sound, too much time and too much damage made to the car.
Hello and good real life review -- very true re storage space for the Disklok We use two diskloks. 1 on a focus with plenty of space etc (unless its a full of family car), and 1 on a Fiat 500 less space and item can be cumbersome. They are very big and noticable especially mine which is bright yellow. Stoplock is possibly more easily attacked and removed. Disklok for long period parking?? Stoplock for nipping in the shop??
I never understood why car manufacturers dont make the steering wheels out of solid steel? They would have to add on a few bucks to the total cost but so what? Also, it doesn't have much to do with SAFETY (in case you are in a car accident) because the air bags would protect you regardless.
It actually is a safety feature. Airbags only do so much. In a really heavy accident with a high speed impact, the airbag is not enough and a steel steerng wheel could potentially fatally injure the driver
These shouldn't be relied upon as a primary defense. They are additional security to go alongside something like ghost or pandora security system. Plus your keys should be kept in a signal blocking pouch/box at all times.
It doesn’t matter what lock, if the thief knows what they are doing both locks will come off in 5mins or under, but I prefer pro elite stop lock as it’s easier to use I know it can help them break the steering lock but it’s easy enough to break it anyway without the lock in few minutes
Will the stop lock pro prevent steering wheel theft on a msport steering wheel. They need a screwdriver from behind to pop the air bag off and undo a bolt in the middle and it slides off?
It would make it tremendously difficult. They sit over the air bag but are not secure so there is some movement on the lock. If you want to completely remove that problem a full disk lock is the way forward.
Disklok - is more value for what it is. Equate the cost of you vehicle over your security/peace of mind. Stopcock Pro - had one years ago. yes it is '' convenient '', but soo is the INconvenience of discovering your car is ////??????? GONE.
stoplock will actually assist thief’s when breaking the steering lock due the leverage then all they have to do is remove the pins on the hinge at lock end and say good bye to your car. The disklock is very effective as it spins on the steering wheel, preventing them from breaking steering lock. He say it’s a inconvenience due to its size when people sit in the back seats, the don’t put there just put it in the boot? Both are good as deterrent but actually doing the job, definitely disklock.
Sorry but what a stupid review of the Disklok, have you heard of something called a boot? if you have passengers why do you have to keep it in the car? and WTF I have had one for 6 years and have NEVER caught my finger, I have never had my finger anywhere near the bolt. But wait, you say the Disklok is "Best for Security" is that not the whole point of the review, stopping someone trying to steal your car? The Stoplock can be got at, as you can get behind it, the Disklok covers the whole wheel.
Back in the day, you would face the lock into the window pillar and window. Wheel could not be moved. I can't see why you would move away from this, thoughts anyone? I'd like to get the stoplock but can't work out which one will fit. Looked at the car models. Mine's not on there, despite it being used throughout the world and not having changed for 30 years. Landcruiser, 75 series or 78, 79 series. They are all the same. HELP 😞
Hi. I have a Mercedes GLB and the steering wheel is really chunky. My current Milenco wheel lock is now to small unfortunately. Please can you recommend the correct size lock for me? Thanks
Measure you steering wheel from side to side. It sounds like the only one that could fit is the disklok large they are for vans at suvs beststeeringwheellock.com/disklok-steering-wheel-lock?customize_changeset_uuid=bd5abe42-c289-4e7f-bdd1-eaac396e1870&customize_autosaved=on
I have just bought a Stoplock Pro for my new (to me) Ford Fiesta - 2020 model. It seems to be fine fitting it when the steering wheel is straight or turned to the left as in the video but if it's turned to the right I can't get it on as the windscreen and side window get in the way. Is there any way round that or do I just have to start the engine again and turn the steering wheel?
@@michaelflamingsword3131 Hi, I meant the car thieves, my mate had his car stolen and they cut either side of the lock then chucked it in his garden with the cut out piece of steering wheel.
I have a mini which had a two segment steering wheel - I had bought the stoplock pro but it just seems to move round and round even though it’s marked as being compatible. Any thoughts?
Hi Sandy, I had the same issues with a BMW M Sport steering wheel, as they are very small, I purchased the Pro Elite, and found it was very loose, and was resting on the indicator stalk, it was returned and replaced with a small Disklok, which is a much better option for my car.
Sorry but I have both and the stop lock pro is nowhere as tough as the disklock any half decent car thief would have that off in minutes, they would just cut the steering wheel it’s as easy as that
Why will it take a couple of weeks to get used to fitting it? As for the "it could hurt your finger" bit...what a stupid thing to add....quick sue them!!
In all the years of owning cars-and I've had Cosworths, Subaru STis, Evos etc, I never once thought to myself ''I Know what would improve my car owning experience, no key to start instead have a stop/start button''. Car manufactures should bring back the key & starter to start the car and ditch the key less push button start. They should also bring back the 'double lock' on the doors like I think Vauxhall used to do, ie you put the alarm on with the fob which locks the doors but you could also put the key in the lock & 'double lock' the doors, making it impossible to open the doors without a key. In this day and age cars should be more secure than they were in the car thief heydays of the 1980s and 90s but really they are much easier to steal now.
Very true. They've basically provided a solution to a problem that nobody asked for, and like most modern things, made it far more complicated than needed.
Most cars nowadays can’t be opened from the inside without a key but some smartarse with a computer can easily circumvent that along with coding a new key
Ford's also double lock, aka deadlock
Essentially disabling the interior door handle so even smashing the video, the door cannot be opened
Our old Avensis had the double press to deadlock feature (doors won't open from inside). But our newer MK3 Seat Leon does it every time with one press.
When we first bought it I got trapped inside and the alarm set off. That's why it says "Check Safelock! Owners manual!" on the display every time.
There is a way to escape via the boot lock if you slide the key in a slot or remove a panel (estate).
It needs two presses on the key to lock just the outside and disables the alarm. So you could leave someone inside.
I just bought a new dacia. The key doesn't even have a keyring. It's pure sh1te. I never thought they could make something so lame. No way to attach a keyring. No.pouch for it. No where for you to put it in the car. Just had to stay in your pocket. Its been designed by students who think we need this keyless tech. We do not need that stupid tard crap. Bring back the key with a keyring please 👍👍
Great video Phil, you have covered all major things about both locks. Your video will surely help a lot of people including me.
I've not tried it, but I've heard it's easy to cut through a steering wheel with a hacksaw, so it really has to be the disklok for me,, !!
Agreed - The steering wheel itself becomes the weak point. A couple of minutes' work to cut through the rim of the steering wheel and the Stoplock simply lifts away, leaving the car perfectly driveable and only needing a new steering wheel (which can be done at the thief's convenience hours, days or even weeks later) before it can be sold on. I've seen a video here on YT where a guy had his Alfa Romeo Guilia stolen from outside his house, all captured on CCTV. It took the thieves just a couple of minutes to bypass the fancy electronics of the car and about 30 seconds to cut through the steering wheel with hand tools to remove the Stoplock (which they thoughtfully placed, still locked and 100% intact, on the ground).
The issue with the Disklok though is that the car can (with a bit of jiggling) still be driven a short distance even with the Disklok in place (provided you can defeat the standard steering column lock!), so can be removed to a safe place where the thief can get to work with a grinder etc undetected.
@@TheRoybeasley
Totally agree, but I think it's fairly diicult to defeat the standard steering lock with it in place, the main problem with the disklok, is it's awkward, heavy, and a "pita" to store in the car when not in use,,
Apart from that, it's a good way of getting a bit of peace of mind, when it's on,,
cheers buddy,,
All these get removed by drilling the lock. 15 seconds max and it’s off.
Its all about keeping your car fully secure so i think i go for DISKLOK all day long. The other one looks nice but can be cut off some way or other..
I agree.
Stoplock is good, but if installed wrong, the tieves can just bascially cut the steering wheel itself to get rid of the lock. If installed properly than you need to cut the steering wheel in 2 places(This is way too much effort and time for them to get rid of that thing). This method + an another anti-theft product can make your car safe form thieves but not 100% remember this, especially if you a have a newer car... You need multi-layered defense. Newer cars have this feature called keyless-entry. It is all nice and good, until some crazy good and experienced thieves found your car. They can easily steal it in seconds. So what i recommend is that, if you have a keyless-entry car, make sure you turn that feature off(You can do that, instructions in the car handbook), then install the steering wheel lock PROPERLY, than lock your car and place your key(s) into a faraday cage inside your home. Still not 100% safe, but the effort to brake into your car is too much.. So basically they need to brake into your car by smashing a window(The car alarm will go off if it is fitted with one), than they have to make a new key for your car(Any modern cars have an OBD connector or how is it called, bascially you can acces to the car computer) thieves have a device which will create a new key for your car if they plug that thing in(until they configure a new key which is i believe less than a minute, the car alarms are still screaming) then they will have to deal with the steering wheel lock. Not worth for them. Too much effort, too much sound, too much time and too much damage made to the car.
Then having an OBD protector is even better.
Thank you very much for your reviews. Very helpful. I'm buying a Disklok.
Thank you.
A co-worker ritually hung his shorts over the steering wheel figuring that was a deterrent. It did not catch on at work. LOL
Hello and good real life review -- very true re storage space for the Disklok We use two diskloks. 1 on a focus with plenty of space etc (unless its a full of family car), and 1 on a Fiat 500 less space and item can be cumbersome. They are very big and noticable especially mine which is bright yellow. Stoplock is possibly more easily attacked and removed. Disklok for long period parking?? Stoplock for nipping in the shop??
From my understanding the stop lock has to be installed on one spoke of the steering wheel otherwise one cut of the steering wheel would remove it.
That’s the best way to install them.
I never understood why car manufacturers dont make the steering wheels out of solid steel? They would have to add on a few bucks to the total cost but so what? Also, it doesn't have much to do with SAFETY (in case you are in a car accident) because the air bags would protect you regardless.
It actually is a safety feature. Airbags only do so much. In a really heavy accident with a high speed impact, the airbag is not enough and a steel steerng wheel could potentially fatally injure the driver
You want to hit your stupid head on a piece of steel of having it come flying through you???
These shouldn't be relied upon as a primary defense. They are additional security to go alongside something like ghost or pandora security system. Plus your keys should be kept in a signal blocking pouch/box at all times.
It doesn’t matter what lock, if the thief knows what they are doing both locks will come off in 5mins or under, but I prefer pro elite stop lock as it’s easier to use I know it can help them break the steering lock but it’s easy enough to break it anyway without the lock in few minutes
I have a question tearing peugeot E2008 steering wheel. Which is a suitable steering lock
Will the stop lock pro prevent steering wheel theft on a msport steering wheel. They need a screwdriver from behind to pop the air bag off and undo a bolt in the middle and it slides off?
It would make it tremendously difficult. They sit over the air bag but are not secure so there is some movement on the lock. If you want to completely remove that problem a full disk lock is the way forward.
fantastic video! im going with the stoplock pro.
Used the Disklok for over 15 years. No issues. Very visible.
Disklok - is more value for what it is. Equate the cost of you vehicle over your security/peace of mind. Stopcock Pro - had one years ago. yes it is '' convenient '', but soo is the INconvenience of discovering your car is ////??????? GONE.
Have to agree, Disklok is the more secure option,
Does it damage the steering wheel the locks? I can imagine the metal parts can eat up the leather on the wheel
It depends how tight you fit the lock and witch one you go for. The disklock had padding and the stop lock goes around the steering wheel with hooks.
Possibly you can either put on a steering wheel cover first, or fit a cover into the lock (if there's room in either case).
stoplock will actually assist thief’s when breaking the steering lock due the leverage then all they have to do is remove the pins on the hinge at lock end and say good bye to your car. The disklock is very effective as it spins on the steering wheel, preventing them from breaking steering lock. He say it’s a inconvenience due to its size when people sit in the back seats, the don’t put there just put it in the boot? Both are good as deterrent but actually doing the job, definitely disklock.
agree, but why aren't people fitting them the way steering locks used to be fitted, between the window and the window pillar????
they just cut through the wheel with a small hacksaw it takes 9 seconds
Sorry but what a stupid review of the Disklok, have you heard of something called a boot? if you have passengers why do you have to keep it in the car? and WTF I have had one for 6 years and have NEVER caught my finger, I have never had my finger anywhere near the bolt. But wait, you say the Disklok is "Best for Security" is that not the whole point of the review, stopping someone trying to steal your car? The Stoplock can be got at, as you can get behind it, the Disklok covers the whole wheel.
The steering lock that goes through the steering wheel easy to remove, they just cut through the steering wheel it’s self !
This could also be a video on how to turn a 30-second video into 4:20.
Spot the boomer.
Back in the day, you would face the lock into the window pillar and window. Wheel could not be moved. I can't see why you would move away from this, thoughts anyone? I'd like to get the stoplock but can't work out which one will fit. Looked at the car models. Mine's not on there, despite it being used throughout the world and not having changed for 30 years. Landcruiser, 75 series or 78, 79 series. They are all the same. HELP 😞
Hi. I have a Mercedes GLB and the steering wheel is really chunky. My current Milenco wheel lock is now to small unfortunately. Please can you recommend the correct size lock for me?
Thanks
Measure you steering wheel from side to side. It sounds like the only one that could fit is the disklok large they are for vans at suvs
beststeeringwheellock.com/disklok-steering-wheel-lock?customize_changeset_uuid=bd5abe42-c289-4e7f-bdd1-eaac396e1870&customize_autosaved=on
I have just bought a Stoplock Pro for my new (to me) Ford Fiesta - 2020 model. It seems to be fine fitting it when the steering wheel is straight or turned to the left as in the video but if it's turned to the right I can't get it on as the windscreen and side window get in the way. Is there any way round that or do I just have to start the engine again and turn the steering wheel?
I don’t think there is. You could try angling the lock the other way?
Problem with the stock lock is they cut either side of the steering wheel .
Put a piece of cloth where it rests. Okay ?
@@michaelflamingsword3131 Hi, I meant the car thieves, my mate had his car stolen and they cut either side of the lock then chucked it in his garden with the cut out piece of steering wheel.
I have a mini which had a two segment steering wheel - I had bought the stoplock pro but it just seems to move round and round even though it’s marked as being compatible. Any thoughts?
Hi Sandy, I had the same issues with a BMW M Sport steering wheel, as they are very small, I purchased the Pro Elite, and found it was very loose, and was resting on the indicator stalk, it was returned and replaced with a small Disklok, which is a much better option for my car.
@@macmad6959 do you have a link to the specific disklok? I need one for a BMW M Sport steering wheel aswell.
Sorry but I have both and the stop lock pro is nowhere as tough as the disklock any half decent car thief would have that off in minutes, they would just cut the steering wheel it’s as easy as that
The stoplock is useless they just cut the steering wheel.
Its a deterent you probably fitted it wrong.
Just put it in the boot 😮
They just change stuff for the sake of time going by and changing stuff. Too many electronics and worse engine designs.
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your driving in the wrong side of the car.
Lol
Problem is they can both be drilled out within about 15 seconds each.
Why will it take a couple of weeks to get used to fitting it? As for the "it could hurt your finger" bit...what a stupid thing to add....quick sue them!!
Disklok is clear
just drill through the lock of the disklok lol