Not going to lie that camera is well balanced when it comes to image quality. I love my a6000 but i may get me a mark 2 eventually. People even favor that over modern canons
5D Mark II is good cheap alternative for BMPCC OG it's has very close filmic quality that BMPCC produce straight out camera and full frame is better in lens choice so you get full potential of lenses. I have GH5 it's great camera but in color grading more bit debt is more important than anything else . I was owned real cinema cameras and now trying grading 10 bit footage it's very boring prosses.
One of the most iconic cameras ever made.I remember everyone being blown away that a full frame camera was capable of shooting 1080p video, there was nothing else even close to it in 2008. This camera started the hybrid craze still going strong today. I just sold my a7IV and went back to Canon DSLRs, including the 5D II I got for like $325 off Ebay. Sony's cameras do have great tech, but the photos always look sterile, over-sharpened and digital, zero character to them. I was using Mist filters to try and soften them up and make them look more filmic, more like Canon photos. Got tired of fighting it and just went back to Canon. I also prefer Canon colors as well. The older Canon DSLRs and EF glass are the best deals out there right now. Oh and you dont have to use the viewfinder on these, it has Live View mode with face detection which basically turns it into a mirrorless camera.
While I agree with you 100%, it's still noteworthy that 5d mk ii is a great camera and there are loads of far worse cameras you could still use for professional photography. In fact, if you look it up, you will find that 5d mk ii is a great choice for a used full frame camera even today.
@@organicphoto haha! No no... Just saying, there's no such thing as "5d original" or "5d classic", just 5d. That's why they put mark ii and iii,etc for distinction.
I love this because so many photography UA-camrs are rubbish photographers. You made the Canon look good. I have the A7iii and a 5D mki. I like the 5D if I want to make something look film-like. The Sony for video, etc.
I LOVE my old 5D MK2!! The focus system is old, but I just shoot portraits anyway. :) I used to work as a profesional photographer, until the arthritis got me bad. I have shot Canon, Nikon, panasonic, both DSLR's and mirrorless. Nikon D750, D810, Eos 6D, 5D MK2/MK3/MK4...we even had a Hasselblad in the studio I worked in. But after I had to stop working, money ran a little short. So I bougth an old EOS M for traveling, an EOS 70D for more action things and a 5D MK2. All for just under 400 USD. I LOVE the felling of an old heavy DSLR. And I alredy had the glass, the ligths, smoke machines and son. The 5D MK2 puts out just as great files now as 15 years ago!! It's just knowing your gear and what it can do and what you have to do for it. ;)
I had the canon 5d mark 1 and mark II and had no problem with focusing. When you learn how to use your equipment you never worry about how you shoot your subject anymore, it's just an instinct what your equipment limitations are. So it's up to you to comepensate.
also worth mentioning... switch on and take a picture: old dslr half a second, Sony A7 III ... 3-4 seconds. Optical viewfinder vs EVF in the dark - I would pick optical any day. I don't shoot Sony anymore
I've had the 5D II since 2010, to this day, and it's clearly on it's last leg but gosh I still love it. It needed a new shutter a year ago and in the meantime I bought an a6500 and tried my best to love crop sensors, but the second I got my 5D back with a 50mm 1.4 lens, and brought it in to photoshop it's just amazing how that FF look albeit 10 years old still has amazing quality. Personally, I much prefer how the 5D II does focus magnification for manual focus far more than Sony. In a perfect world, I'd buy a brand new A7R IV, but, as budget dictates, I'm probably gonna go 6D mark II or A7II. However, I really miss the joystick, such a great feature. No doubt that Sony AF is the best in the game though.
I've had a Canon 5DII since they first came out. It was way ahead of anything else at the time, and it's still superb. My similar self-imposed assignment was using the 17-40mm zoom only, and that was an absolute treat in a variety of situations, especially when using a polarising filter. Another time I confined myself to 70-200mm zoom IS and using black-and-white only. Again, a great discipline.
The 50 1.8 is as good, and will save you some cash that you could then invest in another lens. If you've only ever shot APS-C or smaller sensors before, just remember that f1.8 on fullframe acts like f1.2 on APS-C or f0.95 on M43
Still using the good old 5d2! I thought about upgrading it many times, but finally decided to invest in better lenses that will really make a difference, this camera is not outdated at all (20MP FF and not bad in low light for its age)
Having shot with a Sony A7 for a while, I recently acquired a 5D Classic, a 5D2 and a load of lenses, including EF 24/2.8, 50/1.8 and 85/1.8, and a Sigma 12-24, all for around £1,200. That's an insane price for the quality of this kit. The only thing I really miss about my Sony A7 (which I still have) is its size/portability and its focus-peaking (which is the best in the business). But apart from that, I absolutely love shooting with the Canon bodies and lenses. This system has reignited my love for photography, and I have been out shooting almost every day since I got the kit.
I sincerely suggest that you try out the Olympus MFT system. It is small, highly capable and the image quality at low iso settings are insane. The IBIS is the best in any commercially available camera. The only caveat for me is the insane price of their pro range lenses, but they do deliver.
I keep it simple: This is one of the most affecting videos for camera gear on yt. it's just perfect because it causes happiness, satisfaction and it's not based on a specs sheet but on experience. this camera is like cruising in an old volkswagen and being focused on myself. On point. Thanks.
the 50 1.4 is far from quite bad in fact its image quality in only slightly under the flagship 50 1.2L , I had a sony a7rII with G glass for years as well, yet still there is something about the older canon body's that just makes the images pop and appear more dreamy. Back button focus , center focus point, recompose, through an optical viewfinder just feels good. I also find that images from this type of setup needed less post processing
I did a video where I compared a Canon 5D to a G9. When shooting jpeg it did not fare so well, but in raw you could not really tell the difference. The film like look seemed to make it more appealing. I picked it up for $100 dollars and add $60 for a used 50mm Canon lens. Really a great deal.
There's nothing wrong at all with the image quality of the 50mm 1.4 if you know what you're doing. It's light, sharp, pleasing contrast, bright and quick enough to focus - the only complaint I have ever had with it is that the focus ring feels sloppy (compared to L lenses) like it could get stuck at any time and also the focus travel of the ring is pretty large which might be a pain for those which manual focus (which I like to do). This was the first lens I used with my 5D Mk I when it came out - I still use it today with later versions of the 5d. It's a great buy if you find one which has been taken care of. If your composition is good, I DO NOT think the client would notice the difference. If you're still trying to make your images better with technology, spend some time on learning to compose compelling images and building rapport with the subject(s). Composition beats technology any day - just study some history. Technically 'superior', boring images are everywhere.
Hi,... I do just what you said nobody would do. I shoot performing arts with a Sony A7 iii and my old 5d mk ii. I load the Sony with a 24-70 f2.8 using a Sigma MC11 adapter and the 5d ii with a 70-200 f 2.8 . I have to admit it was strange at first but now, I don't even think about it and handle both camera's without thinking. Nice video .
You make out that a picture from the two of these cameras would be so drastically different to each other, but I really don’t believe it would. In good lighting and both with good lenses, the pictures will be incredibly similar and I highly doubt you’re going to notice such a vast difference as you make out you will. Newer cameras advanced mainly in technology, but picture quality is still fantastic on the 5D mkii, and can barely be differentiated from a 5D mkiv unless in low lighting.
Great video. I’ve gone from a Sony a7 first edition to a canon 5d mk2 and I find that the photos coming out of the canon are much more pleasing to the eye, colours pop a bit more but keep natural tones on skin and red have a deeper contrast to them. With Sony I was finding that all the shots at least in jpeg had an orange/blue style hue that I get comes from Sonys colour science but you get a bit bored of it and having to change it all in post to give you a more realistic image is more effort than necessary.
I am actually thinking of doing this now in 2024. My current camera is a Sony A7 Mark 1, and I only have one Sony E-mount lens for it, and I can't afford Sony glass, or the gods forbid, upgrading the body. So have been either converting my old Canon EF mount lenses with an adapter for use on the Sony ,and even purchasing more Canon glass to get my hands on lenses I lack in my kit. This up to the point where I may as well just get a canon body. And the Canon EOS 5D II and even the III is getting very affordable, with me being a landscape photograper a 5D should deliver. My only concern is dynamic range. But heck, I coild just keep my Sony body for those occations, or exposure bracket.
I have a 5D MKii and a Nikon D800, D7200. The autofocus of the 5D MKii is not as advanced as the D800 or even close to the D7200, but it is more than adequate. I am an old timer and I still use all formats of film cameras, more than digital in fact. I am used to a little manual focusing, one might say. I really think that the likes of Sony, Nikon, Canon, Fuji are doing photography a disservice by incorporating more and more automated features in their cameras, they are just selling /marketing points, largely The role of a photographer is being reduced to a button pusher in the process. The excuse of all this automation is giving me more time to concentrate on composition is a lame one IMHO. Photographers have managed to find outstanding compositions using fully manual cameras for over 100 years. I have to give you credit for getting out of your comfort zone and trying something unfamiliar.
Good points. I have both, A Sony A7iii and 5D2. I have the 5D2 for 10 years. Bottom line 5D2? Too many shots are ruined from out of focus or camera shake with unsharp images. Colors are off in non ideal lighting. Night work is well, forget it unless you use a tripod. Low effective ISO. - max is 1250 and grainy at that. I cringe at 1250, but 640 is safe. In an age of high ISO native cameras, this makes it challenging like using regular film. Video can be substandard if not really planned well. Strictly manual focus, manual camera. Forget night video - basically a daytime, high light camera and really, it is a tripod camera for best shots - which is OK in many ways. But don't try blogging. It is hand held unless it is supported somehow or you want that movement. Then this will force you to slow down and work your shots which is OK. Forget indoor candid shots unless you have f2 or better, 125 sec or faster and 1250 max unless you want to have lots of grain. 6400 is a write off for both video and photography. Superb optics or steady shot lenses are in order. The fixed poor screen on the back is a pain for low level work. I used a magnifier which helped a lot, but it is bulky. There is no headphone jack for video. For good audio, you need to use a Beachtek adapter. After using my Sony A7iii with Contax / Zeiss N Series lenses, the results were absolutely spectacular and no going back even though I tried. Night and day better, a game changer. far more freedom, incredible quality shots, night photography is a pleasure. video is pro quality. Rear tilt screen is awesome, lots of custom function buttons, peaking focus assist. EVF is a game changer. I still have my Canon but it is rarely used anymore. I do have lots of glorious shots on it, but was always limited as mentioned. Great training camera.
Yup! Gear doesn’t matter. You just have to know your camera’s limitations. But most cameras in this generation can produce amazing photos that’s handled by a knowledgeable photographer.
gear does matter to a certain point. You can't take good images if the camera is stopping you. Like if it is super bad. People gotta stop acting like gear means zero lol if you have a lens that has bad optics and won't take sharp images your skill won't change anything
The 5DII's photos are very pleasing right out of the camera. And the 5DII is still a pro camera on its own terms. It has been used in films such as Captain America, Avengers, Thor, Elysium and lots of other great movies. And many contest winners back in the day were shot by a 5DII - and a great photo is still a great photo. But specswise it's an ancient creature.
Hit the nail on the head with the proverbial "your pictures are really good, you must have a really good camera" myth. A great artist can create great art even from trash. Good tools just make it easier, more efficient, and allows the artist to push the envelope with what's possible. But where art and clients are concerned, it's never a substitute for expressing yourself, creating emotion and images we enjoy. The other factor is enjoyment. We don't pursue a hobby or endeavour because it's really easy. We do it because it can be challenging and produces rewarding and satisfying results. That can also include using the latest and best gear with all the bells and whistles but it's not one and the same, merely another path.
Astonishing shots and a highly relevant video. I side with you fully, skills are more important than the piece of equipment you are using. Great video! Thank you for investing your time and effort into making this video! I found the answers I was looking for.
Hey Chris. I totally get what you are saying. While I have upgraded to the 5Dsr, I still use my 5D MK II for photos and video. I am using Magic Lantern's raw video on my MK II and loving it. I love Canon's colour as well, especially for portrait work. Take care.
As of 2023 the 5D mk2 + a 50mm f/1.8 can be had used for about $400 US. Let's just think about that for a moment. Remember that great cameras don't become bad cameras, just that modern cameras get better features, and the mk2 was a great camera.
It gives the impression that you have made a video to convince yourself that you have the best and spend all your time justifying why you have a Sony. The revolution that the Canon EOS 5D Mark II brought about in its day was a historic milestone. Today using the Magic Lantern firmware that unlocks a lot of hidden features older Canon cameras including the 5D compete at the highest level with any other modern camera. Both in dynamic range, cinematographic look and a long etc. Movies in Hollywood and TV series like House have been shot with the 5D Mark II. The next comparison, do it with a 5D Mark II with Magic Lantern.
love your photography... those images were beautiful .. I like my Sony for all the same reasons you said but yes good images is not necessarily about the camera its about the photographer & capturing the moment or magic .
my uncle’s been in photography longer than i’ve been alive and the photos he gets compared to the ones I get are so much better than mine. He’s definitely got a much better eye for good composition and he’s also very good at editing in lightroom. I think really the only thing i outdo him in is city photography, but landscapes and portraits my uncles got it
Talking about the 5dmk2 as though it's a nonprofessional camera such that skill and vision are more important is sheer lunacy. The 5d is still a full sensor professional kit...it only needs more skill because newer cameras have automated more functions, but the quality of the images produced hold their own against the newest gear in daylight. (In low light, we must admit, it does need help)
@@ChrisTurnerPhotographer easy there, only the talk of the 5d as such would be so...as in the comments when people start saying its the users skill and vision and not the camera. One always sees this comment but yet every professional uses the best gear they can afford. A professional on a budget can still easily have this camera as a backup today.
I have a 5D Classic, but I do my more official shooting with an Olympus e-m1 mk 1(I have 2 bodies and the customary bag o' lenses). The 5D was the last camera I had before switching to Olympus. Then, when I started seeing all these photogs getting all nostalgic about the 5D, I re-acquired one with a couple of primes. I've settled on the venerable, released-the-same-year 24-105 f/4 IS L as the one lens that I could do anything with. This video makes the plainest case (that I've seen) for budding photogs to get this camera with a cheap lens: you'll take great pictures if you understand how to live with a basic tool that, incidentally, is as cheap as dirt. I happened to notice similar problems as you experienced in your video, especially having no preview screen to flip out when I want to take a low shot. "Damn. I'm going to have lie on the ground ... or come up with a different shot." Good work, Mr Turner.
Went from Canon to Sony (A7S , A7R2) years ago but now going back to Canon . Also shoot Leica . Sony are far more advanced (focus and low light) but I enjoy using the Canon bodies more .The Sony bodies are just too small and too feature packed for me . I never use the back screen . Lovely shots by the way and a very thoughtful review .
The 5d2 is a great camera and has less noise at iso 100-200 than the 5dIII. I had a Sony alpha and I think the Canon-L glass and some consumer lenses are superior to Sony lenses (In fact Sony glass is made by Tamron). The only chance a Sony photographer has is to find some good Minolta Maxxum old glass (I had some). But these are very rare and difficult to find. Obs: The 50 f1.4 is a great lens. You either got a bad copy or you forget how to use an "old" lens
your clients are not too demanding :) i like the first shot of them looking at sea , and wind blowing their heir , that one is nice , but that is it , rest of it is spray and pray . but if client is happy :)
Beautiful composition on your photos, I only use the center focus point and if light is really low I'll use focus assist beam, never had focus issues on 5d mkii
Great video! 👍🏾 Good to see another photographer / videographer using this great classic camera. It really was a game changer back in the day. We just posted a video talking about why we still use this camera in 2020. As you say it’s not the tool but your 👁
Just bought a 5d classic and a mkii for £250 with flash and 50mm 1.8 mki cant wait to try them out. Been out of photography for a while and wanted a cheap way back in. Nice video. Martin.
I have every 5D camera body from the Classic to the 4... ill never change... probably coz I have so much invested in glass hahaha... but seriously there is not much out there that matches the Canon 5d sensors.. namely the 5d Classic or Mark i...and the mark ii for colour. Theres just something there. Some sort of magic. Match these with some FD mount SSC prime lenses from the 70's and you can thank me later. Great video bro.
This camera has no limitations, it’s the photographers job to make this camera work for him not the other way around. I can rock this camera with a good glass and make the same results than any sony cameras.
Well... I mean you can make photos just as emotionally charged, or pleasing to look at, but you can’t control ISO performance or anything like that. So I agree the photographer is 100% what makes a good actual image, but the “technical” (boring I know) quality of the image you can’t change, and that’s where something like a new Sony or a new Canon etc is far better. But again, better photo? No
Didn't quite understand what u really meant! Sony MILCs don't need introduction these days, anyone can produce good images with those. However, only skilled photographers are able to produce great images with workhorses like Canon 5DII or Nikon D700. These are photographers' cameras. MILCs are sort of point & shoot cameras that produce great images in the hands of anyone.
Old Canons are pretty cool. We are planning to dedicate a Photography Live show episode to the Canon 5d MkII. Could we feature some of your video as part of that?
I did something similar a few years ago. I had picked up a 7DII, 5DII, 5DIII, then moved back to Sony A7iii. I think some of my best shots are with the 5DII but the issue is you have to overshoot with Canon. One interesting thing I didn't realize is many Canon cameras won't let the camera fire unless it gets an autofocus confirmation. I don't miss the 70-200mm II that thing was far too heavy and people don't talk about this much, but you can get far slower glass for Sony and have it focus just fine. You needed 2.8 or faster on Canon otherwise it wouldn't focus fast enough. You'd also pre-focus more and anticipate when to take a shot. I can just hold down my Sony button now trusting 80-90% 10 fps burst to be in focus.
I don't understand how you would tell images apart (when viewed together) between this and the Sony as you say... (Besides differences in colour rendering). Surely that would be comparing lenses and not cameras?
You can also install magic lantern and shoot video that Sony mirrorless can only dream about, well apart from the A7sIII but for that camera you gotta sell your liver and probably your family too to afford it.
Hi Chris, what 50mm 1.4 lens did you utilize for the shoot? I have a 5d2 body coming in the mail and I'd love to hear what presets you used for the shoot and the lens model. Thank you for the wonderful content!!
@christurnerphotography Im looking at either the 5D mk11 with a 50mm f1.8 or a Sony A6000 with the 50mm f1.8 OSs and a Sigma 19mm f2.8 ! both around the same money and I'm looking to start doing family shoots and maybe weddings. which would you choose ?
Chris, what do you mean you don't shoot through the viewfinder? Do you use the screen most of the time? I've been shooting weddings with the 5DII for about 5 years in the past and I really want to know more about new camera systems... Thank you!
Hey mate me again just with another question. Just wondering when you book client do you give them any idea of what clothing they should wear ? or they just show up in whatever and you shoot ? cheers
Hi just found your channel I use 5 d mark 2 with 50mm 1.4 lens. Can u advice best settings for af please. I’m still learning manual. Lockdown boosted me by after 10+ years of a bridge only
5d mark II has 10 times better image output (colors,contrast etc.),not to mention the 5d classic or 1ds mark III those are legendary cameras,and no one new model camera can beat the output from them.
I hear what your saying but why a 50mm F1.4 ? - although very good it was introduced to the market in 1993 - if you wanted a proper indication of the 5d's performance then wouldn't it be an idea to put a recent piece of L glass on it ?
I am undecided whether to take a Nikon d800 with a Tamron 28-75 f2.8 that I found at a great price or a Canon 5d mark ii and I would take a 50mm f1.4 or other lens. I specify that I also make videos. What do you suggest me?
I've been using my 5D Mark II for 13 years. The full frame still producing an awesome image. Much better then alot of the new cameras.
Can I ask wat setting for portrait focus u use
Cause of your experience, you can give all the potential from this 5D2, love it
Right? 5d2 user here
Not going to lie that camera is well balanced when it comes to image quality. I love my a6000 but i may get me a mark 2 eventually. People even favor that over modern canons
5D Mark II is good cheap alternative for BMPCC OG it's has very close filmic quality that BMPCC produce straight out camera and full frame is better in lens choice so you get full potential of lenses. I have GH5 it's great camera but in color grading more bit debt is more important than anything else . I was owned real cinema cameras and now trying grading 10 bit footage it's very boring prosses.
One of the most iconic cameras ever made.I remember everyone being blown away that a full frame camera was capable of shooting 1080p video, there was nothing else even close to it in 2008. This camera started the hybrid craze still going strong today. I just sold my a7IV and went back to Canon DSLRs, including the 5D II I got for like $325 off Ebay. Sony's cameras do have great tech, but the photos always look sterile, over-sharpened and digital, zero character to them. I was using Mist filters to try and soften them up and make them look more filmic, more like Canon photos. Got tired of fighting it and just went back to Canon. I also prefer Canon colors as well. The older Canon DSLRs and EF glass are the best deals out there right now. Oh and you dont have to use the viewfinder on these, it has Live View mode with face detection which basically turns it into a mirrorless camera.
Great reminder that vision and skill are more important than equipment in most shots.
While I agree with you 100%, it's still noteworthy that 5d mk ii is a great camera and there are loads of far worse cameras you could still use for professional photography. In fact, if you look it up, you will find that 5d mk ii is a great choice for a used full frame camera even today.
5D2 makes beautiful images. I have the original 5D classic and love it.
Cameras don't make beautiful images. They're just tools. People make the images.
"5d classic/original" lol
@@organicphoto haha! No no... Just saying, there's no such thing as "5d original" or "5d classic", just 5d. That's why they put mark ii and iii,etc for distinction.
The original 5d is a classic hence the nickname. I would always associate 5d classic with the original first 5d. Amazing camera!
@@RedBeardASMR ok. I need to buy the classic gfx.
I love this because so many photography UA-camrs are rubbish photographers. You made the Canon look good. I have the A7iii and a 5D mki. I like the 5D if I want to make something look film-like. The Sony for video, etc.
I LOVE my old 5D MK2!! The focus system is old, but I just shoot portraits anyway. :) I used to work as a profesional photographer, until the arthritis got me bad. I have shot Canon, Nikon, panasonic, both DSLR's and mirrorless. Nikon D750, D810, Eos 6D, 5D MK2/MK3/MK4...we even had a Hasselblad in the studio I worked in. But after I had to stop working, money ran a little short. So I bougth an old EOS M for traveling, an EOS 70D for more action things and a 5D MK2. All for just under 400 USD. I LOVE the felling of an old heavy DSLR. And I alredy had the glass, the ligths, smoke machines and son. The 5D MK2 puts out just as great files now as 15 years ago!! It's just knowing your gear and what it can do and what you have to do for it. ;)
I had the canon 5d mark 1 and mark II and had no problem with focusing. When you learn how to use your equipment you never worry about how you shoot your subject anymore, it's just an instinct what your equipment limitations are. So it's up to you to comepensate.
also worth mentioning... switch on and take a picture: old dslr half a second, Sony A7 III ... 3-4 seconds. Optical viewfinder vs EVF in the dark - I would pick optical any day. I don't shoot Sony anymore
I've had the 5D II since 2010, to this day, and it's clearly on it's last leg but gosh I still love it. It needed a new shutter a year ago and in the meantime I bought an a6500 and tried my best to love crop sensors, but the second I got my 5D back with a 50mm 1.4 lens, and brought it in to photoshop it's just amazing how that FF look albeit 10 years old still has amazing quality. Personally, I much prefer how the 5D II does focus magnification for manual focus far more than Sony. In a perfect world, I'd buy a brand new A7R IV, but, as budget dictates, I'm probably gonna go 6D mark II or A7II. However, I really miss the joystick, such a great feature. No doubt that Sony AF is the best in the game though.
I've had a Canon 5DII since they first came out. It was way ahead of anything else at the time, and it's still superb. My similar self-imposed assignment was using the 17-40mm zoom only, and that was an absolute treat in a variety of situations, especially when using a polarising filter. Another time I confined myself to 70-200mm zoom IS and using black-and-white only. Again, a great discipline.
I am on a budget and thinking of buying a mark ii and a 50 1.4 to start shooting portraits
That is a great set up!!
My set up is a mark II with a 50 1.8 and the results are outstanding :)
The 50 1.8 is as good, and will save you some cash that you could then invest in another lens. If you've only ever shot APS-C or smaller sensors before, just remember that f1.8 on fullframe acts like f1.2 on APS-C or f0.95 on M43
The Dead Immortal yea you right i just got the 85mm 1.8 Using it on my 5Dii and it’s amazing 💙
@@jessieblue1419 That's a far better choice. Link me your IG so I can check out the results and leave some likes
Still using the good old 5d2! I thought about upgrading it many times, but finally decided to invest in better lenses that will really make a difference, this camera is not outdated at all (20MP FF and not bad in low light for its age)
@The Rockall Times why do you need more for fashion photography?
Does it have good autofocus ?
@@osasthewave not in video haha
Galterius what budget camera would u suggest for video, sub 350-400 on the used market with decent autofocus
@@osasthewave which specs are you looking for apart from decent AF?
Having shot with a Sony A7 for a while, I recently acquired a 5D Classic, a 5D2 and a load of lenses, including EF 24/2.8, 50/1.8 and 85/1.8, and a Sigma 12-24, all for around £1,200. That's an insane price for the quality of this kit. The only thing I really miss about my Sony A7 (which I still have) is its size/portability and its focus-peaking (which is the best in the business). But apart from that, I absolutely love shooting with the Canon bodies and lenses. This system has reignited my love for photography, and I have been out shooting almost every day since I got the kit.
I sincerely suggest that you try out the Olympus MFT system. It is small, highly capable and the image quality at low iso settings are insane. The IBIS is the best in any commercially available camera. The only caveat for me is the insane price of their pro range lenses, but they do deliver.
I keep it simple: This is one of the most affecting videos for camera gear on yt. it's just perfect because it causes happiness, satisfaction and it's not based on a specs sheet but on experience. this camera is like cruising in an old volkswagen and being focused on myself. On point. Thanks.
the 50 1.4 is far from quite bad in fact its image quality in only slightly under the flagship 50 1.2L , I had a sony a7rII with G glass for years as well, yet still there is something about the older canon body's that just makes the images pop and appear more dreamy. Back button focus , center focus point, recompose, through an optical viewfinder just feels good. I also find that images from this type of setup needed less post processing
I shoot with a Canon 5D classic, a Canon 1D MkIV , and a Sony A7RII and I prefer the photos from the Canons in most cases.
Agree! A good photographer can use anything. Especially any full frame camera. Still, having the better equipment makes a huge difference at times.
Totally agree
I did a video where I compared a Canon 5D to a G9. When shooting jpeg it did not fare so well, but in raw you could not really tell the difference. The film like look seemed to make it more appealing. I picked it up for $100 dollars and add $60 for a used 50mm Canon lens. Really a great deal.
wow the colors!!!! makes me wanna pick one up i miss shooting canon!
There's nothing wrong at all with the image quality of the 50mm 1.4 if you know what you're doing. It's light, sharp, pleasing contrast, bright and quick enough to focus - the only complaint I have ever had with it is that the focus ring feels sloppy (compared to L lenses) like it could get stuck at any time and also the focus travel of the ring is pretty large which might be a pain for those which manual focus (which I like to do). This was the first lens I used with my 5D Mk I when it came out - I still use it today with later versions of the 5d. It's a great buy if you find one which has been taken care of. If your composition is good, I DO NOT think the client would notice the difference. If you're still trying to make your images better with technology, spend some time on learning to compose compelling images and building rapport with the subject(s). Composition beats technology any day - just study some history. Technically 'superior', boring images are everywhere.
Hi,... I do just what you said nobody would do. I shoot performing arts with a Sony A7 iii and my old 5d mk ii. I load the Sony with a 24-70 f2.8 using a Sigma MC11 adapter and the 5d ii with a 70-200 f 2.8 . I have to admit it was strange at first but now, I don't even think about it and handle both camera's without thinking. Nice video .
You make out that a picture from the two of these cameras would be so drastically different to each other, but I really don’t believe it would. In good lighting and both with good lenses, the pictures will be incredibly similar and I highly doubt you’re going to notice such a vast difference as you make out you will. Newer cameras advanced mainly in technology, but picture quality is still fantastic on the 5D mkii, and can barely be differentiated from a 5D mkiv unless in low lighting.
Great video. I’ve gone from a Sony a7 first edition to a canon 5d mk2 and I find that the photos coming out of the canon are much more pleasing to the eye, colours pop a bit more but keep natural tones on skin and red have a deeper contrast to them. With Sony I was finding that all the shots at least in jpeg had an orange/blue style hue that I get comes from Sonys colour science but you get a bit bored of it and having to change it all in post to give you a more realistic image is more effort than necessary.
I am actually thinking of doing this now in 2024.
My current camera is a Sony A7 Mark 1, and I only have one Sony E-mount lens for it, and I can't afford Sony glass, or the gods forbid, upgrading the body. So have been either converting my old Canon EF mount lenses with an adapter for use on the Sony ,and even purchasing more Canon glass to get my hands on lenses I lack in my kit. This up to the point where I may as well just get a canon body. And the Canon EOS 5D II and even the III is getting very affordable, with me being a landscape photograper a 5D should deliver.
My only concern is dynamic range. But heck, I coild just keep my Sony body for those occations, or exposure bracket.
It would be great to see and hear a behind the scenes video of you doing another free stranger shoot.
I recorded this one on my GoPro, will be uploading it soon :)
I have a 5D MKii and a Nikon D800, D7200. The autofocus of the 5D MKii is not as advanced as the D800 or even close to the D7200, but it is more than adequate. I am an old timer and I still use all formats of film cameras, more than digital in fact. I am used to a little manual focusing, one might say. I really think that the likes of Sony, Nikon, Canon, Fuji are doing photography a disservice by incorporating more and more automated features in their cameras, they are just selling /marketing points, largely The role of a photographer is being reduced to a button pusher in the process. The excuse of all this automation is giving me more time to concentrate on composition is a lame one IMHO. Photographers have managed to find outstanding compositions using fully manual cameras for over 100 years. I have to give you credit for getting out of your comfort zone and trying something unfamiliar.
Good points. I have both, A Sony A7iii and 5D2. I have the 5D2 for 10 years. Bottom line 5D2? Too many shots are ruined from out of focus or camera shake with unsharp images. Colors are off in non ideal lighting. Night work is well, forget it unless you use a tripod. Low effective ISO. - max is 1250 and grainy at that. I cringe at 1250, but 640 is safe. In an age of high ISO native cameras, this makes it challenging like using regular film.
Video can be substandard if not really planned well. Strictly manual focus, manual camera. Forget night video - basically a daytime, high light camera and really, it is a tripod camera for best shots - which is OK in many ways. But don't try blogging. It is hand held unless it is supported somehow or you want that movement. Then this will force you to slow down and work your shots which is OK. Forget indoor candid shots unless you have f2 or better, 125 sec or faster and 1250 max unless you want to have lots of grain. 6400 is a write off for both video and photography. Superb optics or steady shot lenses are in order.
The fixed poor screen on the back is a pain for low level work. I used a magnifier which helped a lot, but it is bulky. There is no headphone jack for video. For good audio, you need to use a Beachtek adapter.
After using my Sony A7iii with Contax / Zeiss N Series lenses, the results were absolutely spectacular and no going back even though I tried. Night and day better, a game changer. far more freedom, incredible quality shots, night photography is a pleasure. video is pro quality. Rear tilt screen is awesome, lots of custom function buttons, peaking focus assist. EVF is a game changer.
I still have my Canon but it is rarely used anymore. I do have lots of glorious shots on it, but was always limited as mentioned. Great training camera.
Yup! Gear doesn’t matter. You just have to know your camera’s limitations. But most cameras in this generation can produce amazing photos that’s handled by a knowledgeable photographer.
gear does matter to a certain point. You can't take good images if the camera is stopping you. Like if it is super bad. People gotta stop acting like gear means zero lol if you have a lens that has bad optics and won't take sharp images your skill won't change anything
@@Robstrap are you referring to non working lens? of course then gear matters lol.
The 5DII's photos are very pleasing right out of the camera. And the 5DII is still a pro camera on its own terms. It has been used in films such as Captain America, Avengers, Thor, Elysium and lots of other great movies. And many contest winners back in the day were shot by a 5DII - and a great photo is still a great photo. But specswise it's an ancient creature.
This! It's just about skills, study and dedication. Great video and advice!
im upgrading from a73 to 5d2/5d3
Man I’d kill for a 5d mk ii.. I’m still using a 350d. Had it since.. I think 2006?
I used to love shooting with my old Nikon D700, that couldn't even video but the images were amazing.
i updated from D700 just a year ago haha, sucha a beasssst!
The photos look phenomenal!
Hit the nail on the head with the proverbial "your pictures are really good, you must have a really good camera" myth. A great artist can create great art even from trash. Good tools just make it easier, more efficient, and allows the artist to push the envelope with what's possible. But where art and clients are concerned, it's never a substitute for expressing yourself, creating emotion and images we enjoy.
The other factor is enjoyment. We don't pursue a hobby or endeavour because it's really easy. We do it because it can be challenging and produces rewarding and satisfying results. That can also include using the latest and best gear with all the bells and whistles but it's not one and the same, merely another path.
I’ve shot hundreds of weddings with that camera . Nobody can see the difference. I see your point working harder but I think that’s apart of the craft
100% appreciate the idea here, thank you
Astonishing shots and a highly relevant video. I side with you fully, skills are more important than the piece of equipment you are using. Great video! Thank you for investing your time and effort into making this video! I found the answers I was looking for.
Hey Chris. I totally get what you are saying. While I have upgraded to the 5Dsr, I still use my 5D MK II for photos and video. I am using Magic Lantern's raw video on my MK II and loving it. I love Canon's colour as well, especially for portrait work. Take care.
As of 2023 the 5D mk2 + a 50mm f/1.8 can be had used for about $400 US. Let's just think about that for a moment.
Remember that great cameras don't become bad cameras, just that modern cameras get better features, and the mk2 was a great camera.
It gives the impression that you have made a video to convince yourself that you have the best and spend all your time justifying why you have a Sony. The revolution that the Canon EOS 5D Mark II brought about in its day was a historic milestone. Today using the Magic Lantern firmware that unlocks a lot of hidden features older Canon cameras including the 5D compete at the highest level with any other modern camera. Both in dynamic range, cinematographic look and a long etc. Movies in Hollywood and TV series like House have been shot with the 5D Mark II. The next comparison, do it with a 5D Mark II with Magic Lantern.
Very nice video, I agree with you it’s not the equipment, it’s a person that’s working equipment…
love your photography... those images were beautiful .. I like my Sony for all the same reasons you said but yes good images is not necessarily about the camera its about the photographer & capturing the moment or magic .
A 5DII is a very capable camera.
my uncle’s been in photography longer than i’ve been alive and the photos he gets compared to the ones I get are so much better than mine. He’s definitely got a much better eye for good composition and he’s also very good at editing in lightroom.
I think really the only thing i outdo him in is city photography, but landscapes and portraits my uncles got it
Those are classic images and for me there are more beautiful than these new cameras.
Any camera is good enough for a knowledgeable photographer. Older the model, more creative is the photog and better is the IQ.
Talking about the 5dmk2 as though it's a nonprofessional camera such that skill and vision are more important is sheer lunacy. The 5d is still a full sensor professional kit...it only needs more skill because newer cameras have automated more functions, but the quality of the images produced hold their own against the newest gear in daylight. (In low light, we must admit, it does need help)
I am a lunatic
Also never said it wasn’t a pro camera 😂
@@ChrisTurnerPhotographer easy there, only the talk of the 5d as such would be so...as in the comments when people start saying its the users skill and vision and not the camera. One always sees this comment but yet every professional uses the best gear they can afford. A professional on a budget can still easily have this camera as a backup today.
I have a 5D Classic, but I do my more official shooting with an Olympus e-m1 mk 1(I have 2 bodies and the customary bag o' lenses). The 5D was the last camera I had before switching to Olympus. Then, when I started seeing all these photogs getting all nostalgic about the 5D, I re-acquired one with a couple of primes. I've settled on the venerable, released-the-same-year 24-105 f/4 IS L as the one lens that I could do anything with. This video makes the plainest case (that I've seen) for budding photogs to get this camera with a cheap lens: you'll take great pictures if you understand how to live with a basic tool that, incidentally, is as cheap as dirt. I happened to notice similar problems as you experienced in your video, especially having no preview screen to flip out when I want to take a low shot. "Damn. I'm going to have lie on the ground ... or come up with a different shot." Good work, Mr Turner.
Went from Canon to Sony (A7S , A7R2) years ago but now going back to Canon . Also shoot Leica . Sony are far more advanced (focus and low light) but I enjoy using the Canon bodies more .The Sony bodies are just too small and too feature packed for me . I never use the back screen . Lovely shots by the way and a very thoughtful review .
At the end of the day - quote of the year
Yep agree with you, our creativity will show itself no matter what the gear but Sony AF is the best.
The 5d2 is a great camera and has less noise at iso 100-200 than the 5dIII. I had a Sony alpha and I think the Canon-L glass and some consumer lenses are superior to Sony lenses (In fact Sony glass is made by Tamron). The only chance a Sony photographer has is to find some good Minolta Maxxum old glass (I had some). But these are very rare and difficult to find. Obs: The 50 f1.4 is a great lens. You either got a bad copy or you forget how to use an "old" lens
With better glass the 5Dii produces great images. The 50 1.4 really isn’t that bad though.
Very rare I drop a comment on a video but the images you created are incredible! Such talent and skill
Thanks Mark, appreciate it
I try to get people to understad that the image is more important than the gear :(
4:40 What a beautiful shot !
your clients are not too demanding :) i like the first shot of them looking at sea , and wind blowing their heir , that one is nice , but that is it , rest of it is spray and pray . but if client is happy :)
Beautiful composition on your photos, I only use the center focus point and if light is really low I'll use focus assist beam, never had focus issues on 5d mkii
Great video! 👍🏾 Good to see another photographer / videographer using this great classic camera. It really was a game changer back in the day. We just posted a video talking about why we still use this camera in 2020. As you say it’s not the tool but your 👁
I love how u color graded your video.
Thanks man
These images look awesome!
There are few cameras that even come close to the image quality of the 5D & 5D Mark II.
When they came out?
@@ChrisTurnerPhotographer When they came out, for sure, and all these years later. Canon put some kind of mojo into those sensors.
I use the Sigma DP1s and DP2s for the Foveon SensorSensors since 2012. If you are a real photographer, prove your skills with those. :)
Classic dp?
Just bought a 5d classic and a mkii for £250 with flash and 50mm 1.8 mki cant wait to try them out. Been out of photography for a while and wanted a cheap way back in. Nice video. Martin.
I have every 5D camera body from the Classic to the 4... ill never change... probably coz I have so much invested in glass hahaha... but seriously there is not much out there that matches the Canon 5d sensors.. namely the 5d Classic or Mark i...and the mark ii for colour. Theres just something there. Some sort of magic.
Match these with some FD mount SSC prime lenses from the 70's and you can thank me later.
Great video bro.
Thanks man. I think with colour it’s so subjective there just can’t be a best, only the best for you
Amazing work
This camera has no limitations, it’s the photographers job to make this camera work for him not the other way around. I can rock this camera with a good glass and make the same results than any sony cameras.
Well... I mean you can make photos just as emotionally charged, or pleasing to look at, but you can’t control ISO performance or anything like that.
So I agree the photographer is 100% what makes a good actual image, but the “technical” (boring I know) quality of the image you can’t change, and that’s where something like a new Sony or a new Canon etc is far better. But again, better photo? No
Didn't quite understand what u really meant!
Sony MILCs don't need introduction these days, anyone can produce good images with those.
However, only skilled photographers are able to produce great images with workhorses like Canon 5DII or Nikon D700. These are photographers' cameras. MILCs are sort of point & shoot cameras that produce great images in the hands of anyone.
Old Canons are pretty cool. We are planning to dedicate a Photography Live show episode to the Canon 5d MkII. Could we feature some of your video as part of that?
I did something similar a few years ago. I had picked up a 7DII, 5DII, 5DIII, then moved back to Sony A7iii. I think some of my best shots are with the 5DII but the issue is you have to overshoot with Canon. One interesting thing I didn't realize is many Canon cameras won't let the camera fire unless it gets an autofocus confirmation. I don't miss the 70-200mm II that thing was far too heavy and people don't talk about this much, but you can get far slower glass for Sony and have it focus just fine. You needed 2.8 or faster on Canon otherwise it wouldn't focus fast enough. You'd also pre-focus more and anticipate when to take a shot. I can just hold down my Sony button now trusting 80-90% 10 fps burst to be in focus.
You can set the cameras to bypass af lock and allow you to shoot.
Beautiful work
The image quality of the 5D series blows everything from Sony out of the water.
I don't understand how you would tell images apart (when viewed together) between this and the Sony as you say... (Besides differences in colour rendering). Surely that would be comparing lenses and not cameras?
Really beautiful shots 😍
i hope this chanel going 100ksub soon ! u are good influence in photography world man !!
You can also install magic lantern and shoot video that Sony mirrorless can only dream about, well apart from the A7sIII but for that camera you gotta sell your liver and probably your family too to afford it.
Hi! I use Canon 5d classic.
ayy you're also in NZ! sick bro
Hi Chris, what 50mm 1.4 lens did you utilize for the shoot? I have a 5d2 body coming in the mail and I'd love to hear what presets you used for the shoot and the lens model. Thank you for the wonderful content!!
Hi！ Can i ask your advice, is it good idea to change canon 5d2 with 50 1.8 and 17-40 4 to sony alpha 7 with 28-70?
@christurnerphotography Im looking at either the 5D mk11 with a 50mm f1.8 or a Sony A6000 with the 50mm f1.8 OSs and a Sigma 19mm f2.8 ! both around the same money and I'm looking to start doing family shoots and maybe weddings. which would you choose ?
These images look amazing...did you shoot these photos in Standard profile and raw? Thanks!
Thanks mate. Yeah standard raw
They are edited obviously tho
inspiring video. those shots were all amazing
Chris, what do you mean you don't shoot through the viewfinder? Do you use the screen most of the time? I've been shooting weddings with the 5DII for about 5 years in the past and I really want to know more about new camera systems... Thank you!
Would love too see the process and thought behind filming a wedding,
I’m doing one in 5 weeks and keen to get some more info etc
Hey mate me again just with another question. Just wondering when you book client do you give them any idea of what clothing they should wear ? or they just show up in whatever and you shoot ? cheers
If they ask I just tell them to dress in whatever makes them feel good
@@ChrisTurnerPhotographer awesome, thanks mate.
Hi just found your channel I use 5 d mark 2 with 50mm 1.4 lens. Can u advice best settings for af please. I’m still learning manual. Lockdown boosted me by after 10+ years of a bridge only
Wonderful review! I’ve checked out your preset packs. Which preset specifically did you use for the family beach shots??
Ummm can’t remember but it would have been pack 2
Chris Turner Photographer Thanks!
How is the color science of 5D MK II compared to 5D Classic?
Just 5d, no classic
5d mark II has 10 times better image output (colors,contrast etc.),not to mention the 5d classic or 1ds mark III those are legendary cameras,and no one new model camera can beat the output from them.
I hear what your saying but why a 50mm F1.4 ? - although very good it was introduced to the market in 1993 - if you wanted a proper indication of the 5d's performance then wouldn't it be an idea to put a recent piece of L glass on it ?
The whole point was to make good photos with old cheap stuff
I believe you mybe made some tweaks on 5dii picture style. Can u share with us what’s the adjustment u made?
No it’s just standard. I just use my presets to edit them. Link in description
Comparing A7iii with 5D2 is not fair, A7iii is better compared to canon new R model
Whos comparing. I'm saying you can still take good photos with an old camera. Stop focusing on the gear.
Why dont you shoot your videos with 5dmkii?
I am undecided whether to take a Nikon d800 with a Tamron 28-75 f2.8 that I found at a great price or a Canon 5d mark ii and I would take a 50mm f1.4 or other lens. I specify that I also make videos. What do you suggest me?
The Nikon won’t autofocus for video at all so if you need that I wouldn’t
All the photos in this video looked very low dynamic range...🤔
Good point!
Absolutely true.
I am 5dmii user, the only thing really bothering me is the shutter sound.
I love the shutter sound myself.
I don't know if it's different from the 5D but the 5D makes the most beautiful and soothing shutter sound