I think that "light" is the thing we see when characters speak with dead characters. Like melia and kallian, and lanz and joran. You know that white realm/light realm. We know that light is a way to comunicate between worlds. So why not the living and deads worlds as well.
A mix of theories and wishes: - In the DLC, I'd like to see past lives of known characters from 3. Like facing Dirk to deepen him a bit, Eunie with a Rifle, see Joran again as a good boi this time, Segiri (with her real name because she's not in Colony 0), finally see Riku and explain why he's so sus, adult Nimue again, have a battle in the story involving colonies led by Ethel and Cammuravi, have a different iteration of the Noah and Mio pair, or even have Lanz as an early antagonist, maybe. The possibilities are endless and would be a great way to deepen some characters. - I'm almost sure we'll see Rex and Shulk die within Aionios in a very emotional scene, probably pretty early on. Going with the previous idea, we might see Shulk again as a reborn kevesi soldier. I'm thinking Ortiz founder here. But his parallels with the Rhodes founder make them seem way too close to Noah/Mio in their dynamic of soldiers that fight each other, then end up together. they even both died at around the same age. So I don't really see Shulk go for someone other than Fiora, even if she may be absent from that world and he'd have no memory. But who knows. - Idk how the DLC will end, i have no theories yet, BUT I think the worlds will not unite, but "stabilize". Like people find a way to prevent them from reaching and phasing through each other again, somthing like that. - Continuing from the previous point: All Xenoblade games have a somewhat living world. I could se a Xenoblade 4 that has almost nothing to do with the other games, but its world is actually two worlds with a way to switch from one world to another, like portals, phasing, ... idk, and that'd be the "something about this world" of this game. It would simply be like that, and the game would take place a long time after 3, so new players can enter completely blind, there would be alsmost no reference to previous games, no Klaus shenanigans, nothing. But by playing the other games, you'd know why the would would be like that, and when discussing with some characters or inspecting some books or stuff like that in some areas, you'd learn what happened to some characters between 3 and 4, like "impress melia died at xxx years old, the throne was inherited by xxx, ...". - Additionally, I think the protagonist of Xenoblade 4 may be royalty and have emerald green hairs. It would then be revealed that he has these hairs because he's a descendant of both the Pyra and Mythra related royal branches, and that's how he was able to use some of Pneuma's lost powers, or something like that. He'd have green hairs from the beginning or along the way, after an awakeking of some sorts. I say MC, but it could also be the new main female character, since every xenoblade game main girl has at least two froms, she could have a pneuma-like form... but that's already pneuma, that's why I'm going with MC. - All we've seen until now was Homs/Humans, new Races, or a mix of one of these races and a hom/human. I want to see some other race x other race mixity too at some point, either in DLC or infuture games. A Machina High Entia with metal wings could be really cool, not gonna lie (Baten Kaitos Kalas? 🤔). Or Urayan/Gormotti, Indoline/High Entia, Blade/Machina, ... there are a lot of possibilities for character designs that are cool and unique and cool again, and it's a shame that they all went for plain humans imo. - Gut feeling prediction: Doyle founder is the Rex x Nia baby on the funny picture. "No, the baby is Mio, she's obviously her daughter" I agree, she's obviously her daughter. But i feel like Mio could be doyle's little sister. that could bring interesting interactions within the DLC if we see a child mio and adult Doyle. Well, at least, that was one of my theories, but since now it's more or less confirmed that she has a kevesi eye... - Regarding the funny picture, my predicion as of now is: Rex x Nia is Mio. Rex x Mythra to me is a boy, named Milton. Rex x Pyra may be the Rhodes Founder girl. In that case, mixing this theory and the Ortiz is Shulk Theory, if they happened to have a relationship, there would be a whole family of Monado Boy x Monado-Colored Aegis stored somewhere on Origin... - Finally, the thing I want to see the most is what the characters from 1 and 2 became. I just NEED to see a cutscene showing something like Shulk in his lab, with longer hairs making him more like both klaus and dunban, with Fiora... idk, cooking, i guess? keeping her short hair style but probably different cut, with their son Crys playing some instrument his father made him, he'd be playing with Noah, both having Kenny Rohan as a teacher, Reyn with a beard, Pregnant mommy Sharla with him, their daughter Ashera waiting for her little brother or sister to be born, Riki having debts again and Oka telling him to go get some money, Kino telling it's OK, he'll help, Nene too, Dunban starting to have grey hairs, he may be Noah's father, idk, but see him giving Ashera and maybe Noah how to fight, but Noah would argue he doesn't like to fight, with a very old Vangarre in the background, Dunban replaced him as head of the military, Emmy Leather being a leader under him, then we would see an older Juju as the official leader of Colony 6, he may have a girlfriend or even a wife now, see a bed ridden Otahron (I'm sorry, I can't help but imagine him like that), see how Miqol, Vanea and Linada are doing, too, then see Lanz's parents watching their son go and meet joran and eunie, and end the cutscene with Tyrea reporting to Melia, then fly away to her next mission on her Yumea telethia mount, .... I want to see something like that. I would die emotional overdose. And that was for Xenoblade 1 only, because that's the game I grew up with, but obviously, I'd like to see what the cast of 2 became too.
I don't agree with the whole pneuma descendent thing cuz pneuma's powers disappeared with the conduit, there's no getting it back it's gone. And thank God I'm not the only one who wants to see bearded reyn lmao. I also do think that there's a solid chance noah is related to dunban which would make his dynamic with crys really cool cuz it would be a reversal of the shulk and dunban dynamic where crys who is related to shulk would mentor noah who'd be related to dunban.
@@potatofarmergyro1720 Yeah, Noah and Crys being cousins would be neat. And regarding Pneuma: we don't exactly know for sure if her powers are gone, and if they are, they could still come back in the future. the conduit disappeared, but Origin is basically an emulator AND Alvis seem to be back and still have some powers, so.... maybe? I mean, after all, we saw Pyra and Mythra both having the core crystal. And 3 seem to indicate that blade childre still have crystals too, and it's still a source of ether power. So being a descendant of both Pyra and Mythra may still be a way to re create the original pneuma core crystal, or something like that, idk. But I think we will see the conduit again. It may hide in this dimension beyond the fog rifts. If alvis comes out of there, it could also be why he still has powers. And xenoblade 4 will have its own story and own worldly shenanigans and world building too anyway, so it would totally be possible to find a way to explain the pneuma powers being back. pneuma in particual returning (not the character) would make sense, as out of the three trinity processors, pneuma is the only (that I know of) one to be named after a really important part of gnosticism. Pneuma is Basically the "Divine Spark" within everyone, the part of divinity anyone has and can harness to have a spiritual awakening, all that stuff. So yeah gnostic pneuma will come back anyway at some point. After all, Xenoblade's Pneuma wasn't really "shared" by every intelligent being, she was very much Rex's blade and that's it, so the processor's power coming back in future generations... that could make sense. To me the trinity processors are "just" processors, they exploit the conduit's power, and this conduit is bound to be involved in future events too, and the processors would still work at that point in time. Except Logos, it's broken. That reminds me of another thing I'd like to see: Rex drinking with a reincarnation of logos that isn't malos. Also ye bearded Reyn. I can't imagine an older reyn without one.
I know I'm late but I got a small theory is that involves the costumes, I'm probably stretching but the throwback costumes could be a sign of showing who's actually related to them. Like I know it's a stretch but maybe Taion is related to Jin, Lanz is related to Reyn, Noah is related to Shulk, etc. That or maybe it's a sign of when 3 DLC drops, it's a sign of showing if they do bring back all the crews together it shows who's gonna be like teamed up even for a bit.
I've been thinking what if the DLC takes place after it Aionios Separated but Alrest and Bionis Fused into the true version world. You got to remember the original world's where frozen in time while Aionios was created so it can explain why our characters are also still alive if they were frozen in time that means so is aging but that's hopeful dreaming I suppose 😅.
If 4 is a follow to 3 the theme of unity is actually spelled out in 3. Nia directly says our worlds will walk hand in hand again and where we belong has a lyric very similar to that. So I think that part of your theory is right on the money.
You know, I'd love if Xeno 4 would be a direct sequal to Xeno 3 in terms of plot. But since Xeno 3 was the ending of the Klaus Saga, I also could see them making Xeno 4 something that seems unrelated to Xeno 3 at face value. Personally, what I think would be cool is if in Xeno 4 we get to play with a mix of the cast from each Xeno game. Like, just as an example, the main cast could be something random like Rex, Dunban, Brighid, Fiora, Sena and Noah. And then maybe you could recruit the other characters the further in the game you get.
THAT would be a cool idea imo. Like an Endgame esque crossover where all the casts are working together towards this common goal. Would be really sick if they could pull that off
@@JMulls Yup, and getting to see all the beloved characters from each Xeno game interacting would be so cool. We could even see stuff like the Xeno 1 and 2 cast being like mentors to the Xeno 3 cast. I just wonder how they'd handle gameplay, maybe mix each system and create something unique that way?
I'm not sure this theory would be possible. Three and it's DLC will be the end of the Klaus saga, so it's my opinion that means the next full game won't be connected to either world. I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the DLC we are given information about the the nature of the fog, how it can be used and how it links to the conduit. We know the conduit started this, so it could very well end this universe and simply create a whole new universe which is where game 4 takes places. Game four is then absent the mess from Klaus and to an extent Galia, unless game four is Galias world... Or perhaps she is the one controlling Alvin. 😂 It's such a headache trying to work out what direction were going in. What a ride.
My only thing with that, is then why that post credit scene. If they don't intend on revisiting the character of Noah, then why not just have him run off towards Lanz, Eunie and Jorun and be on his way instead of having him disappear. It's def a head scratcher tho. Makes theorycrafting it more fun imo🤣
Ok, so in typical videogame fashion the fourth entry either makes or breaks the series, so who knows what'll happen, though if it does happen i have faith that it'll be good regardless.
Yeah that's the thing with theorycrafting, it's cool to do, just don't be surprised if you (me in this case) are wildly wrong. Monolith havn't let me down with story yet (still need to beat X) so I'm optimistic even if I'm wrong
For Final Fantasy, IV was consider a massive breaking point for their franchise to went from great to amazing. But for Sly Cooper, it’s fourth game completely broke it’s franchsie unfortunately, and not in a good way
So maybe during the dlc a rift will appear and it will drag some of the main characters from xc1 and xc2 So in the next game we would have a New story and a New cast of characters but there could be one or two from xc1/2 After they went trought the rift If that's the case maybe the goal of the story would be to find a way for these characters to go back to their world
I bet XC4 would take place in a linked world between 1 & 2 and that you can travel freely between both universes (and possibly more universes). However, it will probably be set years in the future after all the main cast from the first 3 game have passed and become legend. I'd imagine the plot of the game might be eerily similar to the events of the Klaus experiment, where a new individual may be working to obtain a Zohar/Conduit entity to repeat the same experiment and it would be the role of the new cast to aid or prevent such an act from occurring.
This is gonna go one of two ways and no in between: Takahashi:......He knows too much, send the Nintendo ninjas!!!! Takahashi: HA! Fuckin' idiot 😂 Ps. I honestly don't have a single theory for 4, like, if this really is the end of the saga then there's really no telling what will be different in the next installment
I think that "light" is the thing we see when characters speak with dead characters. Like melia and kallian, and lanz and joran. You know that white realm/light realm. We know that light is a way to comunicate between worlds. So why not the living and deads worlds as well.
A mix of theories and wishes:
- In the DLC, I'd like to see past lives of known characters from 3. Like facing Dirk to deepen him a bit, Eunie with a Rifle, see Joran again as a good boi this time, Segiri (with her real name because she's not in Colony 0), finally see Riku and explain why he's so sus, adult Nimue again, have a battle in the story involving colonies led by Ethel and Cammuravi, have a different iteration of the Noah and Mio pair, or even have Lanz as an early antagonist, maybe. The possibilities are endless and would be a great way to deepen some characters.
- I'm almost sure we'll see Rex and Shulk die within Aionios in a very emotional scene, probably pretty early on. Going with the previous idea, we might see Shulk again as a reborn kevesi soldier. I'm thinking Ortiz founder here. But his parallels with the Rhodes founder make them seem way too close to Noah/Mio in their dynamic of soldiers that fight each other, then end up together. they even both died at around the same age. So I don't really see Shulk go for someone other than Fiora, even if she may be absent from that world and he'd have no memory. But who knows.
- Idk how the DLC will end, i have no theories yet, BUT I think the worlds will not unite, but "stabilize". Like people find a way to prevent them from reaching and phasing through each other again, somthing like that.
- Continuing from the previous point: All Xenoblade games have a somewhat living world. I could se a Xenoblade 4 that has almost nothing to do with the other games, but its world is actually two worlds with a way to switch from one world to another, like portals, phasing, ... idk, and that'd be the "something about this world" of this game. It would simply be like that, and the game would take place a long time after 3, so new players can enter completely blind, there would be alsmost no reference to previous games, no Klaus shenanigans, nothing. But by playing the other games, you'd know why the would would be like that, and when discussing with some characters or inspecting some books or stuff like that in some areas, you'd learn what happened to some characters between 3 and 4, like "impress melia died at xxx years old, the throne was inherited by xxx, ...".
- Additionally, I think the protagonist of Xenoblade 4 may be royalty and have emerald green hairs. It would then be revealed that he has these hairs because he's a descendant of both the Pyra and Mythra related royal branches, and that's how he was able to use some of Pneuma's lost powers, or something like that. He'd have green hairs from the beginning or along the way, after an awakeking of some sorts. I say MC, but it could also be the new main female character, since every xenoblade game main girl has at least two froms, she could have a pneuma-like form... but that's already pneuma, that's why I'm going with MC.
- All we've seen until now was Homs/Humans, new Races, or a mix of one of these races and a hom/human. I want to see some other race x other race mixity too at some point, either in DLC or infuture games. A Machina High Entia with metal wings could be really cool, not gonna lie (Baten Kaitos Kalas? 🤔). Or Urayan/Gormotti, Indoline/High Entia, Blade/Machina, ... there are a lot of possibilities for character designs that are cool and unique and cool again, and it's a shame that they all went for plain humans imo.
- Gut feeling prediction: Doyle founder is the Rex x Nia baby on the funny picture. "No, the baby is Mio, she's obviously her daughter" I agree, she's obviously her daughter. But i feel like Mio could be doyle's little sister. that could bring interesting interactions within the DLC if we see a child mio and adult Doyle. Well, at least, that was one of my theories, but since now it's more or less confirmed that she has a kevesi eye...
- Regarding the funny picture, my predicion as of now is: Rex x Nia is Mio. Rex x Mythra to me is a boy, named Milton. Rex x Pyra may be the Rhodes Founder girl. In that case, mixing this theory and the Ortiz is Shulk Theory, if they happened to have a relationship, there would be a whole family of Monado Boy x Monado-Colored Aegis stored somewhere on Origin...
- Finally, the thing I want to see the most is what the characters from 1 and 2 became. I just NEED to see a cutscene showing something like Shulk in his lab, with longer hairs making him more like both klaus and dunban, with Fiora... idk, cooking, i guess? keeping her short hair style but probably different cut, with their son Crys playing some instrument his father made him, he'd be playing with Noah, both having Kenny Rohan as a teacher, Reyn with a beard, Pregnant mommy Sharla with him, their daughter Ashera waiting for her little brother or sister to be born, Riki having debts again and Oka telling him to go get some money, Kino telling it's OK, he'll help, Nene too, Dunban starting to have grey hairs, he may be Noah's father, idk, but see him giving Ashera and maybe Noah how to fight, but Noah would argue he doesn't like to fight, with a very old Vangarre in the background, Dunban replaced him as head of the military, Emmy Leather being a leader under him, then we would see an older Juju as the official leader of Colony 6, he may have a girlfriend or even a wife now, see a bed ridden Otahron (I'm sorry, I can't help but imagine him like that), see how Miqol, Vanea and Linada are doing, too, then see Lanz's parents watching their son go and meet joran and eunie, and end the cutscene with Tyrea reporting to Melia, then fly away to her next mission on her Yumea telethia mount, .... I want to see something like that. I would die emotional overdose. And that was for Xenoblade 1 only, because that's the game I grew up with, but obviously, I'd like to see what the cast of 2 became too.
I don't agree with the whole pneuma descendent thing cuz pneuma's powers disappeared with the conduit, there's no getting it back it's gone. And thank God I'm not the only one who wants to see bearded reyn lmao. I also do think that there's a solid chance noah is related to dunban which would make his dynamic with crys really cool cuz it would be a reversal of the shulk and dunban dynamic where crys who is related to shulk would mentor noah who'd be related to dunban.
@@potatofarmergyro1720 Yeah, Noah and Crys being cousins would be neat. And regarding Pneuma: we don't exactly know for sure if her powers are gone, and if they are, they could still come back in the future. the conduit disappeared, but Origin is basically an emulator AND Alvis seem to be back and still have some powers, so.... maybe? I mean, after all, we saw Pyra and Mythra both having the core crystal. And 3 seem to indicate that blade childre still have crystals too, and it's still a source of ether power. So being a descendant of both Pyra and Mythra may still be a way to re create the original pneuma core crystal, or something like that, idk. But I think we will see the conduit again. It may hide in this dimension beyond the fog rifts. If alvis comes out of there, it could also be why he still has powers. And xenoblade 4 will have its own story and own worldly shenanigans and world building too anyway, so it would totally be possible to find a way to explain the pneuma powers being back. pneuma in particual returning (not the character) would make sense, as out of the three trinity processors, pneuma is the only (that I know of) one to be named after a really important part of gnosticism. Pneuma is Basically the "Divine Spark" within everyone, the part of divinity anyone has and can harness to have a spiritual awakening, all that stuff. So yeah gnostic pneuma will come back anyway at some point. After all, Xenoblade's Pneuma wasn't really "shared" by every intelligent being, she was very much Rex's blade and that's it, so the processor's power coming back in future generations... that could make sense. To me the trinity processors are "just" processors, they exploit the conduit's power, and this conduit is bound to be involved in future events too, and the processors would still work at that point in time. Except Logos, it's broken. That reminds me of another thing I'd like to see: Rex drinking with a reincarnation of logos that isn't malos. Also ye bearded Reyn. I can't imagine an older reyn without one.
I did love the vanguard system, so I’d love that. Me personally I think they could also use Keves for XC4 and Agnus for XC5
Oh lord, that'd be entirely awesome!
You are indeed a genius wordsmith lmao that bit with all the ending songs went pretty hard
I know I'm late but I got a small theory is that involves the costumes, I'm probably stretching but the throwback costumes could be a sign of showing who's actually related to them. Like I know it's a stretch but maybe Taion is related to Jin, Lanz is related to Reyn, Noah is related to Shulk, etc. That or maybe it's a sign of when 3 DLC drops, it's a sign of showing if they do bring back all the crews together it shows who's gonna be like teamed up even for a bit.
I've been thinking what if the DLC takes place after it Aionios Separated but Alrest and Bionis Fused into the true version world.
You got to remember the original world's where frozen in time while Aionios was created so it can explain why our characters are also still alive if they were frozen in time that means so is aging but that's hopeful dreaming I suppose 😅.
If 4 is a follow to 3 the theme of unity is actually spelled out in 3. Nia directly says our worlds will walk hand in hand again and where we belong has a lyric very similar to that. So I think that part of your theory is right on the money.
You know, I'd love if Xeno 4 would be a direct sequal to Xeno 3 in terms of plot. But since Xeno 3 was the ending of the Klaus Saga, I also could see them making Xeno 4 something that seems unrelated to Xeno 3 at face value.
Personally, what I think would be cool is if in Xeno 4 we get to play with a mix of the cast from each Xeno game. Like, just as an example, the main cast could be something random like Rex, Dunban, Brighid, Fiora, Sena and Noah. And then maybe you could recruit the other characters the further in the game you get.
THAT would be a cool idea imo. Like an Endgame esque crossover where all the casts are working together towards this common goal. Would be really sick if they could pull that off
@@JMulls Yup, and getting to see all the beloved characters from each Xeno game interacting would be so cool. We could even see stuff like the Xeno 1 and 2 cast being like mentors to the Xeno 3 cast. I just wonder how they'd handle gameplay, maybe mix each system and create something unique that way?
I'm not sure this theory would be possible.
Three and it's DLC will be the end of the Klaus saga, so it's my opinion that means the next full game won't be connected to either world.
I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the DLC we are given information about the the nature of the fog, how it can be used and how it links to the conduit.
We know the conduit started this, so it could very well end this universe and simply create a whole new universe which is where game 4 takes places.
Game four is then absent the mess from Klaus and to an extent Galia, unless game four is Galias world... Or perhaps she is the one controlling Alvin. 😂
It's such a headache trying to work out what direction were going in. What a ride.
My only thing with that, is then why that post credit scene. If they don't intend on revisiting the character of Noah, then why not just have him run off towards Lanz, Eunie and Jorun and be on his way instead of having him disappear. It's def a head scratcher tho. Makes theorycrafting it more fun imo🤣
Ok, so in typical videogame fashion the fourth entry either makes or breaks the series, so who knows what'll happen, though if it does happen i have faith that it'll be good regardless.
Yeah that's the thing with theorycrafting, it's cool to do, just don't be surprised if you (me in this case) are wildly wrong. Monolith havn't let me down with story yet (still need to beat X) so I'm optimistic even if I'm wrong
For Final Fantasy, IV was consider a massive breaking point for their franchise to went from great to amazing. But for Sly Cooper, it’s fourth game completely broke it’s franchsie unfortunately, and not in a good way
So maybe during the dlc a rift will appear and it will drag some of the main characters from xc1 and xc2
So in the next game we would have a New story and a New cast of characters but there could be one or two from xc1/2 After they went trought the rift
If that's the case maybe the goal of the story would be to find a way for these characters to go back to their world
I bet XC4 would take place in a linked world between 1 & 2 and that you can travel freely between both universes (and possibly more universes). However, it will probably be set years in the future after all the main cast from the first 3 game have passed and become legend. I'd imagine the plot of the game might be eerily similar to the events of the Klaus experiment, where a new individual may be working to obtain a Zohar/Conduit entity to repeat the same experiment and it would be the role of the new cast to aid or prevent such an act from occurring.
Ngl I really want this now ;~;
LOL, I'm optimistic about w/e story they put out, though my ego would EXPLODE if I'm right here 🤣
@@JMulls Same with the unconditional optimism - though if you are correct, my mind will be well and truly blown.
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This is gonna go one of two ways and no in between:
Takahashi:......He knows too much, send the Nintendo ninjas!!!!
Takahashi: HA! Fuckin' idiot 😂
Ps. I honestly don't have a single theory for 4, like, if this really is the end of the saga then there's really no telling what will be different in the next installment
Oh 100%, I either nailed this or WILDLY missed the mark. Or I got one REALLY small thing strangely accurate and nothing else lol.