"If you cheat in the dark of the morning, you'll get found in the bright lights of the night." - Joe Frazier After completing the majority of work for this video, my hard drive became corrupt and I lost the file to this project and about 6 weeks worth of work. I really didn't feel like starting from scratch again and I thought about just scrapping this mini doc altogether. I'm glad I decided to try again and complete the video because I feel like this is one of best documentaries that I've made. I hope you all feel the same. Rainy Day Boxing Patreon - www.patreon.com/RainyDayBoxing
Keep up the great work brother. Your one of 5 channels i watch don't be discouraged on those glitches. I haven't recorded in over a month. In process of writing a book. Ill be back myself. The very best.
WE’RE glad you didn’t scratch the project. We’re glad. Thank you, the character in your videos outweighs any production, any size of either the other “Boxing Doc” Channels around. I won many fights thanks to your videos. Watching the training playlist on repeat gives me the courage and energy before all my fights to push through and fight.
I greatly enjoy your videos. This channel feels like the library Mike Tyson submerged himself in when he moved in with Cus. As a texas boy,, The Jack Johnson doc is my favorite.
No way my guy is going to scrap hard work... hes gonna work twice as hard to make it happen and we are all thankful for it!! Your friend, Michael ✌👊 (Just started watching and already glued to it)
I met Joe Frazier one time in the Philadelphia airport. What a nice guy, took time to talk with a nobody and gave me his signature. One shake of his hand and I knew right away why he was the champ.
I'm a Joe fan. Ali was an ass. Joe tried to help Ali and spent his own money and efforts to help Ali get back into boxing and then Ali talked some vicious crap about Joe. Joe was a class act, man. I recognize Ali as a great boxer. Maybe the greatest. But Joe was a terrific boxer and also a good human.
@@brandonbp122 the thing is talking mess the way Ali did was what brought controversy and sold tickets. It was part of why we're still talking about it today. Same reason Mike Tyson would talk about eating people's kids. Boxing is also entertainment
The most amazing thing about frazier is he was essentially blind in one eye and had a short arm due to an accident he had as a kid.... dude was a WARRIOR
@@kidofsteel0362 YUP couldnt straighten his left arm since he broke it as a kid and his eye was legally blind after a training accident early on in his career
Joe Frazier to me is what I imagined boxing as a kid, a sportsman who doesn't speak much, driven by his relentless will wether if it is fueled by anger, frustration, determination or to overcome his adversities. Though to me, the greatest martial artists stayed humbled throughout their lives, master of their crafts who doesn't get changed by fame or wealth and Joe Frazier was one of them... Rest in Peace champ.
In 1960, JFK became the first "made for TV" President and Ali became the first "made for TV" Boxer. It was Ali who started all the Trash Talk and antics in the ring that was to go one to influence many other Boxers in the future. It was with Ali that Boxing became less of a Sport and more of a Performance, a little like what happened in Pro Wrestling. But the promoters knew how to get more SUCKERS to buy more tickets, even SUCKERS who had never been interested in Boxing before. Their trick was to give the audience a "Show" rather than a straight "Sporting Event". Ali was the one who started "Boxing as a Performance" and today, at age 73, I'm convinced that his "act", his "performance" Was NOT just of his own invention. Someone behind the scenes had written Ali's script for him, perhaps some Powerful and Smart men behind the scenes who already knew how much money could be made from this new thing called TV. All you needed was avery talented boxer whose Big Mouth and childish antics make a Tidal Wave of SUCKERS gladly open up their wallets for that Egomaniac disguised as a Boxer named Ali. And Ali's Egomania was a template for all the Egomaniacs to follow in his wake, "Showmen" like Leonard, Macho Camacho and lately Boxers like Tyson Fury. Ali was really the WORST Thing to happen to the History of Boxing. So much so that fans called the more recent Champion Klitschko brothers from Ukraine "boring" because they still saw Boxing as a Sport and NOT At All as a Performance or an Act of any type. Rot in HELL, Muhammad Ali !!! As a lifelong Boxing fan, I wish that you had never even been born !!! Boxing today in 2022 would certainly be better if you had NEVER Even Existed !!!
@@JosephKulik2016 I respect the First Amendment. However, F*ck you very much. Ali was a great boxer who earned every good thing he got from his career. Ali was also a great human being. They still remember Ali after death. When you're gone, no one will miss or remember your old, miserable @$$.
What a classy guy. Instead of just parading the belt, he used his personal cash and influence to make sure the deposed champion come back to face him. That's real class.
Great point, didn't see it that way. Most fighters would've paraded with the belt & left the true champion to fend for his self. Look at what's going on today. The best fighters are hesitant to fight. So they sure as hell wouldn't bail each other out to fight them. Frazier was a true champion. Essentially freed Ali just so he could beat him and PROVE he's the real champ
It(SuperFight1)was the first guaranteed million dollar purse in the HWboxing history where two undefeated heavyweight champions met to decide the title
When the British TV show "This Is Your Life" honored Muhammad Ali in 1978, one of the final guests, which came as a complete surprise to Ali, was Joe Frazier. Frazier walked out on stage with a smile a mile long, happy to be there, happy to see Ali, and he turned a great event into an even greater event. And honestly, Ali didn't deserve Frazier's presence, and he probably knew it. Not after the horrible things he'd said about Frazier for years on end. But Frazier was the bigger man on that day in 1978, and he probably taught Ali something about humility as well, hopefully making Ali a better person for it.
I saw that show on UA-cam and you can tell Ali was happy to see Joe and was humbled by his presence. When Joe told a story about the 2 setting up the first fight in Joe's car Ali was just tickled by Joe story. Joe was a great champion and a great man. Ali I bet wished he didn't say all those terrible things.
@@89DrFunk I believe this is even mentioned in "When We Were Kings" but I think Ali absolutely came to regret what he said about Frazier and respected the man. It was not Ali's individuality that made him so famous but his ability to connect to other humans and his ability to change, and I believe definitely changed a lot from the man who insulted Joe Frazier.
I looked this up because of your comment and man didn't take long, within a few seconds I had a tear welling up in my eye. Thanks for your comment that was something I never saw before.
The boy with the crooked arm... The boy blind in one eye.. The boy with a hook in his left hook... The boy with the heart of an elephant and the resilience of the buffalo... The boy smoking everything in his path... The boy Joseph Willam Frazier ...
@@Psyfi85 I shall remember this post with the a fond heart even though I obviously disagree but he was 1 tough cookie, to get up from the Canvas after being knocked down 5 times in 2 Rounds from a wrecking machine like Foreman tells you everything there needs to be known of Joe Frazier's Heart & Powers of Recovery. A very brave Man who Fought with a dodgy Eye, rose to the very top of his Sport & imo the very best Era in Heavyweight Boxing, 1st man to Beat Ali. Nobody can take that away from him, as much as I wish I could I can't deny him his famous Win. Harder than a coffin nail✌️🙏
@@NUNYABIZNNAAAZZZ gee, it looks like you don't know shit, homes. "On March 8, 1971, in the "Fight of the Century" at Madison Square Garden, Frazier landed a left hook in the 15th round that sent Ali careening to the canvas. The unbeaten Frazier won a unanimous decision as he handed Ali the first defeat of his pro career." Here's what Ali said after the fight.. (Ali the ingrate who insulted Frazier calling him an uncle tom, even though Frazier supported him and lobbied to get the ban lifted. And lent him money when he was broke.) "I'm not going to cry. I made a lot of people unhappy when I beat them, so it's my time now. I'm not going to cry. A lot of great fighters get whipped. No one can hit as hard as Frazier. I'm satisfied with the fight even though I lost. I know I lost to a great champion, but maybe another time when both of us had been fighting regularly, the result would have been different. I don't know, but maybe."
Out of the three champs of the time, Ali, Frazier, and Foreman, Frazier is the most under rated by far. This was the best mini doc I have ever seen on Frazier. Thanks for making this and may the man R.I.P.
Is there a statue of him in Philly? I didn't realize that. I knew they had a statue of the fictional white champion. Happy to hear they built one for the baddest real heavyweight that ever lived. Is it in a good spot, or did they put it in the subway?
@@anthonyjohnson9403 they put it outside in front of some sports bar called xfinity live as soon as you go in front of the building the statue is right out front
@@A.hopk1ns Oh, okay. Well that's good. Years ago, when they put that Balboa statue up, that was such a slap in the face. I'm glad they finally honored a real man. Stallone should have turned that honor down. That boy knew he hadn't earned any boxing accolades. But not Stallone. In typical Euro American fashion, he accepted an honor he knew he didn't deserve.
As Rainy Day Boxing already alluded to. ''Champions aren't made in the ring, they are merely recognized there. You can map out a fight plan or a life plan, but when the action starts, it may not go the way you planned, and you're down to your reflexes, training your preparation, perseverance. That's where your roadwork shows. If you cheated on that in the dark of the morning, well, you're going to get found out now, under the bright lights.'' - Joe Frazier -
Joe frazier you arent alone bro You have more fans than you can even imagine A mans heart and his will is what makes him refuse to quit and Joe you are one of the greatest fighters in boxing history
@Mark One Ali called him a monkey and black shamed him for his skin colour and flat nose. literally WTF. I respect Ali for his fighting but FFS.... still trying trying to work out why Ali is the "greatest"
In my personal opinion, Joe Frazier was the real life version of Rocky. Yes, I know Chuck Wepner was the inspiration, but come on. Joe's from Philly, he trained in a slaughterhouse he worked at by punching meat, he ran the steps of the Philly museum, he defeated the goat, and he was known for having the biggest heart in all of boxing. He's Rocky. Or better yet, Rocky is Joe.
Well, the only counterpoint to that is that Joe wasn't necessarily an underdog. Like yeah, maybe in the media circus because Ali ran circles around him in the press, but in terms of actual fighting he was a beast.
@@CatsClaw44 In terms of public perception, sure, but Rocky in the original movie was not even a particularly good boxer. Joe was actually good, and for all the unfair things people said about him at the time, there was no real arguing over his legitimacy as a world class fighter
He was great, but Ali is the greatest of all time, undisputedly. No one comes close. Joe was a vicious warrior, he used his entire body to K.O Ali. But at the end of the day, that was only a fluke because Ali beat the floor with him the next 2 fights.
Joe was so tough you can't measure it. Nobody actually compares to him when it comes to being able to take a punch and to throw one back. Plus, he was just a nice guy.
Its really odd your analysis, did you watch Joes fight with Foreman? The nightmare it was? Is like he had cheated being world champion? I think he had studied Ali's weakness and blind spots and then trained around that. Is why Ali nearly died in that ring..however to state that he was the greatest and all is a bit far fetched
@@cptathensjohnclaba8705 Maybe... Many fighters really aren't the same after very tough fights. You can see it sometimes in MMA too. Most people never take a hard punch in their entire life. These guys take many murderous blows.
He helped Ali and bailed out his family when Ali was in prison. He was rewarded with a barage of insults and public humiliation. I can't forgive Ali for that. Don't think Joe could either. Rip, legend of a man.
@@brucescott4261 I don't know why I hear so many people that claim Ali went to prison. He got sentenced to prison, but he remained out while his appeals were pending.
Just look at how he disrespected Sonny Liston. "Getting in his head"? He literally would slam on his door and shout taunts in the middle of the night!, with a crew to watch his back! And all the public harassment? Ali knew damn well that the cops would save him if Liston lost his temper. I lost all respect for the man outside the ring after actually researching his life. Frankly?; He was cocky A-hole clown!
As a kid I rooted for Ali including his bouts vs. Frazier. As I got older with better knowledge of facts and understanding the ways of the world, my respect for Frazier grew exponentially. I prefer Frazier and it makes me angry how poorly Ali treated Frazier even after Frazier went out of his way to help Ali including lending him money when Ali was broke. Frazier's legacy is strong, but I think he deserves a higher rating given his many big wins, quality of opponents during a golden era of HW boxing, his smaller/shorter size and reach in a tough HW division. He was also nearly blind in one eye. Despite his short height and reach, Frazier exerted extreme pressure on his opponents, wading forward, bobbing and weaving to close the distance. Once inside, Frazier would throw viciously powerful hooks and upper cuts. Absolutely brutal body puncher. He beat Ali badly in their first fight and that was Ali in his prime when everyone felt that Ali was perhaps the greatest boxer ever. Frazier dominating Ali in their first fight is how I remember Frazier and not the beating he took vs. George Forman. Frazier was the epitome of toughness (mental & physical) and personal character. RIP Joe!
@Mohamed Laarabi Ali was mighty close to his prime when they fought the first time. He was out of boxing for 3 years because he made the choice not to fight for his country knowing there'd be serious ramifications. He made that choice, nobody else.
@@milojanis4901 fight for his country? Was murica getting invaded or something? Dont drag us to the mud kid, i talk sport do you know it? if u do then you will understand that no matter how much sparring you have its never the same thing as fighting. Love both fighters but ali was way off that night and the second one between them was a good proof
I, like many, was mesmerised by Ali 'performance'. But, 'How poorly Ali treated Frazier'?!...the man couldn't keep his mouth shut from spitting incessant insults at Frazier. He was incandescently insulting to JF. And thankfully Ali was genuinely repentant at how he spoke about JF. And any guy who could fight like JF did, blind in one eye and a shortened arm, was one hell of a dude. Not to mention he was always a gentleman.
Excellent presentation! I've read many books on boxing and the one episode that sticks in my mind is how badly Ali treated Frazier after Frazier not only helped Ali get his boxing licence back but also lent him funds to survive! Frazier is my all time favourite boxer; not just because of his ordeals in the ring but also how he conducted himself outside of the ring. Thank you for a fantastic vid :-)
@@sdgakatbk ali was a great fighter persona idol etc. But as a real person not so much. We all have flaws we all make mistakes however what he said about Joe was mean and a double cross. In the big picture most people over look his mean spirit displayed in the public eye. If he was a Politian he would have ruled if he was a Full time hollywood star he could have been a box office smash but deep down inside Ali was nt so nice.
thats really happen? i cant believe clay or ali acting like that against a wonderful guy and great warrior colleague like smokey joe....thats too bad....
Joe was an extremely SMALL heavyweight, even by 1970 standards. The standard heavyweight was around 6’3, 220 lbs. Joe was a dwarf by comparison at 5’10 and a weight that might go as low as 190 lbs. That small man humbled many giants. Hat tip to you, Joe.
@@syourke3 you're saying that he was 6 ft tall because that's what you heard from somebody that also heard that that's why they said it too. Joe was never 6 ft tall barefoot not even 5'11. 5'10" and some change
Good stuff. Frazier could not possibly match hand speed with Ali. So, he had to get inside. And just keep on coming. It worked in the first fight, but Joe took the beating of his life but won anyway. His face looked like an ugly Halloween mask. Welts, swollen. His life was at stake in the hospital. Ali was a dangerous heavyweight prize fighter who could kill an average man with his lighting fast hands. The hideous beating Ali dished out after a THREE-YEAR LAYOFF was unbelievable. No other man on earth could do that to Joe. None. Ali won the second fight, and the third fight was one for the ages. Nothing but love and respect for both fighters. ❤❤❤
@Milo Janis so true the other fights were wars but neither man would cave they'd rather die and you could tell both guys might of got punched but refused to show any type of conceed to defeat what so ever
@@milojanis4901 You are IGNORANT. Frazier spent 3 weeks in the hospital after Ali-Frazier 1. Ali left the hospital the same same. Who whipped who's ass. Frazier won the fight, no doubt; but, he didn't whip Ali's ass. By the way, I loved both fighters equally. Did not prefer one over the other. My two favorite fighters. I wasn't around when Joe Louis was fighting.
To me, Joe's second greatest fight, right behind his victory over Ali, was the Foreman fight. To get knocked down 6 times by the heaviest most vicious punches any boxer ever absorbed (one Foreman punch launched Joe's entire body off the ground), and to get up 6 times ready to fight some more was the most champion thing I ever saw in life. To this day. As pure boxing goes, he became my all time favorite that night. Love you, Smokin Joe. You're #1 in my book.
That fight reminded me of the fight scene in "Cool Hand Luke" where Paul Newman's character kept getting up and said to George Kennedy's character "you're going to have to kill me" Frazier had no ability to "stay down"
Yeah. Paul Newman played some of the coolest characters ever seen on film. And they didn't always come out on top like some bogus super hero. Joe was even cooler and absolutely real. Not the best boxer ever, but my hands down favorite.✊🏾💯
This doesn't get talked about enough! The fact that Frazier got up SIX TIMES against arguably the strongest puncher in boxing history, George Foreman, and still looked ready to go the distance, is simply incredible. The man was literally the meaning of the phrase "He doesn't stop."
@@khoshaba-cr3oi And yet Ali made Foreman look ineffectual. Imagine being one of the "strongest punchers" in heavyweight history and this guy comes out, takes everything you have, says "that all you got?" and then knocks you down. That era was truly the highlight of heavyweight boxing
@@harfgarflarf Foreman would have knocked Ali around the ring for fun if he'd just invited him come to him in the centre of the ring. Ali didn't have the reach to dance round Foreman or the strength to knock him out and as champion Foreman didn't have to do anything except invite Ali forward.
Being 66 now and having watched these fighters as a young teen, my respect and admiration for Mr. Frazier has only increased throughout the years. You have provided an excellent narrative as to not only the Boxing Talents of Mr. Frazier but his solid Character and Integrity as well. As far as his historical impact upon Boxing, i truly believe he is without a doubt Top 10! 🤙
Frazier was a model of dignity and integrity and a devastating fighter. We all know that being a heel drives ratings, but I get choked up seeing the amount of abuse that Ali dragged into their rivalry. I bet he felt a lot of remorse for it in later life.
After the Thriller in Manilla Muhammad Ali called for Joe's son Marvis. He said to him he was sorry for the hurt he had caused their family, and to tell his father that he didn't mean the things he had said. It was an olive branch. Marvis told his father, and Frazier said no, why doesn't he say those things to me, why doesn't he apologise to me. A complicated relationship, and it's easy to see that moment from both sides. Ali respected Frazier, he just didn't pay him that respect in public. For Joe Frazier, as a straightforward and proud man, sentiment was all well and good but simply had to be backed up by man to man, face to face respect.
Joe inspired me to practice the noble art but above all his behavior inside and outside the ring is something exceptional. Thank you for this video in his memory 🙏🏻❤️
"My skin is blacker than him, I grew up in the ghetto, he grew up in the suburbs. He is making me the white guy because he has a gift from god that he can talk better than me" Such a straightforward moment of truth. To be honest, it cuts a lot deeper than Ali's funny rhymes. Joe just said things as they are and laid out the most important facts. No bees no butterfly bullshit.
Love both of these men. Used to think Ali was a personal hero. But with time, it was Joe Frazier and his heart and humility which I came to respect the most. Incredible fighters both.
Frazier was not an all time great,he was trouble for Ali and that was it. He ducked an old Sonny Liston Ernie Shavers and Ron Lyle for starters. He beat two tomato cans in his only title defenses and was nearly beaten twice by a very pedestrian Bonevena. I do think that style wise Tyson was a super charged version of Frazier who would have iced Ali in later rounds or beat Ali in a very lobsided decision. Mike had a much better defense than Joe and hit way harder and faster.
@@st7728 Yes Ali had feet of Clay no pun intended. He didn't dodge the draft because of protest but because he feared for his life and Ali only wanted to make money. A sports illustrated reporter accidently left a recorder running and was talking to Ali at the time of his refusal and Ali said on the recording that he just wanted to make money and not fight in war. The whole doing it for Asains or blacks was a lie as most of Ali's legacy was a lie, Ali had the right not to go but his pretending to be a hero and proclaimed hero for his stand when he was just a coward is pathetic and tells you Ali was just faking as always.
@@jaunnada3648 doesn’t matter why he dodged the draft lmao Imagine being FORCED into a war you want nothing to do with knowing you’ll probably die and being called a coward for not accepting that and being ok with it. Fuck the draft and fuck the government
@@jaunnada3648well it turns out the incident that lead to the US involvement in vietnam was a false flag attack carried out by our own government on ourselves. Whether or not Ali's reasoning was cowardly, the war was an unjustified retarded shit-show that is responsible for thousands of families never seeing their children, and thousands of children never seeing their parents again. I wouldn't have dodged but you cant blame anyone who did. imagine your dad dying because he got drafted to go to ukraine. Imagine your 18 year old child fresh out of high school having to go crawl in tunnels through enemy lines all because a country 10,000 miles away is getting attacked. Its stupid and the draft itself is horrible, only time it should be nessecary is during a mainland invasion of the US.
I am seventy years old now and Joe Frazier is and always will be my favourite heavyweight champion of the world of all times, in the ring and outside of the ring. The true champion for me.
I don't even like boxing, but these stories are so told so well and so universally awesome that I am glued to my seat watching with excitement. It's nice to see someone rise from nothing with nothing but determination and hard work.
Honestly, all the content from@@RainyDayBoxing is quality. They show so much reverence for what is a huge part of the global cultural legacy of martial arts.
He was my hero, I remember listening to the first fight with my elder brother who was backing Ali, but when Joe smoked Ali with that left hook my heart skipped a beat and I remember thinking 'I think he just won' and he did. What a man, what a fighter, what a champion. RIP Joe.
What Ali did to Fraizer was unforgivable. Only a real man like Fraizer could forgive such betrayal. Unlike so many champions who became champions because of God given talents, Fraizer became a champion because he paid his dues and earned every fight he won, and lost. He was and will probably remain the most unappreciated and underrated heavyweight champion in history with, perhaps, the exception of Lennox Lewis, whose career seems to have been an eerie replay of the Joe's struggle for the cruel and fickle hearts of boxing fans. But, as anyone who has ever had to fight an opponent so adored and enamoured by his fans that they see you as no more than a bug to be crushed under their hero's foot, it is that hero's respect that matters the most. Joe Fraizer earned that respect the day he beat Ali where it counted the most: in the ring. RIP Mr Fraizer, for you earned your place as a champion and there are many who will always remember you for that.
Why are people saying it was unforgivable and he got his revenge. Like what more could he have got other than to maul Alli. And he did! Alli was a trash talker. What did you expect??
@@whoopdewhoop7154 well the thing that Ali did was, despite being a supposed civil rights icon, that he attacked Fraizer for being "uglier, dumber and blacker" than him, and that's after Fraizer, quite graciously actually supported Ali and helped him return to the sport. It's extremely hypocritical and ungrateful. Fraizer helped him, only for Ali to try to use Joe head as a springboard while saying "later, loser". It completely torpedos the mythic persona of Ali as this great man of virtue. Like you can make the argument that Ali was just selling the fight, but the counterpoint to that is that if Ali really cared about his fellow blacks and how they're looked at by the rest of the world, then maybe he wouldn't try to destroy public perception of another black man who objectively came from even worse circumstances just to squeeze even more money out of the media circus. It's dishonorable.
He was the greatest in my personal opinion. And was glad to see him and ali move on from all the hatred they had for each other and become great friends.
It was actually a dark, rainy/snowy, cold day where I live but my bright spot today was boxing training and unexpectedly getting a compelling doc like this to watch after a good training session. Much appreciated and please keep up the good work.
Frazier was and still is one of the greatest to ever lace up and get in the ring . He may not have been one of the biggest, fastest or strongest punchers . But he he was without question one of the busiest with a warriors heart and the will of 2 more. RIP Champ
@@yokattafn9068 lo siento amigo, no entiendo el Inglés, mi comentario se enfoca por el respeto y admiración deportiva que siento por Smokin Joe Frazier 👍👍
I loved Joe Frazier, I was lucky enough to attend his gym and spend sometime with him before he passed. A man more humble than he had any right to be, given all that he achieved. It’s impossible not to think of Ali alongside him, both great men in their own right but together they elevated each other’s legacies.
MelmanCam3l Don't put Ali alongside Frazier. Frazier was worth a thousand Alis. Ali was a dishonourable man who took Frazier's money when his license was suspended and assassinated his character after he got his license back. There is no human worse than an ingrate who stabs his friend in the back. Ali doesn't deserve to get his name uttered alongside Frazier's.
My uncle always said Frazier was his hero. So much so that, when he lost to Foreman, he got emotional. Frazier was one of the greatest people's champs.
100% agree!! As much as I admire Ali (who was a true humanitarian as well as a spectacular fighter)--he crossed the line with his insults of Frazier. Joe never forgot--and I don't blame him a bit for despising Ali!!
I liked your comments not to disrespect you , but joe new ali would bring in the crowd with a gimmick which is not to hurt a fighter its to make them fight to counter, its easy to hit your appointment if he's more intent on hitting you but joe is still a legend ali was beat bye people who new what gimmick ment
Ali did nothing that he didn't do with many other opponents. And most of those opponents say that they were honored to be dissed by Muhammad Ali. Frazier came across as a very insecure man to be so bothered by Ali's trash talk.
I watch a TON of youtube and I don't remember last time I was rivetted to the screen as much as this. I had to watch this standing up, from excitement. Thanks for uplifting the story of Joe Frazier. It's easy to think that he was just an opponent... He was part of the golden era and a top tier champion who gave the audience everything they could ever want!
The way he got up from those Foreman Bombs was ridiculous. Frazier was Willpower incarnate. He would have fought till death if he were allowed to do so, that kinda man never loses at anything.
Joe frazier is my favorite heavyweight of all time, he was TRULY relentless til the end, even when he was nearly out on his feet and had no clue where he was he was still tryna throw that left hook, he'd get hit with the force of a freight train and stand right back up before the ref got to 3. Ali was iconic, but I think people remember his trash talk a little more rosy than it actually was at the time. Joe was a class act and a warrior.
He was always moving forward, coming for you nonstop whether hurt or not. I never seen determination and courage like Smokin' Joe's in the ring. And coupled with that heart and willpower made me a fan of the man alone. He was a beast, and relentless like no other fighters I ever seen RIP Champ!🥊🥊
God bless Joe Frazier, first fight I remember watching with my dad was Ali Vs Frazier Trilogy on dvd lol Him alongside Sonny Liston are the reason I fell in love with this sport 🥊 Awesome video man respect ✊
Mr. Frazier sure did his roadwork. "if you cheat in the dark of the morning..." As someone who fought before, I believe this refers to roadwork. Roadwork is getting up at 4:30 AM and running before the sun comes up, no matter what the weather. If it's raining, you run. If it's snowing, you run. If it's unbearably cold, you run. The old greats would say "you better do your roadwork or you won't have any heart" and this is because getting knocked down and rattled is like going to sleep. The floor feels comfortable, you just want to doze off; but by being strict with your roadwork you find it easier to get up and go.
What he said dude! I've always been a combat sports fan (MMA, Karate, Olympic Wrestling), but never taken anything other than a mild interest in boxing until recently and now I'm BINGEING all the big fights (Rumble in the Jungle, Gatti v Ward I II and III, Bowe vs Holyfield trilogy, you get the picture; enough of my rambling) and a big Thank You to you and all the other boxing channels that fuel this kick that I hope will never end!
I got to meet Joe when I was a teenager and he was just walking around Philly and me and bunch of other kids saw him. He was really nice to all of us. Great guy
People use word's like legend, top g, greatest, this man was above all that, He was simply a force of nature who was from the lowest level of society but with the highest level of humanity
My eyes filled with tears a few times watching your doc. Touched and hit me hard. Joe Frazier is one of my favourite heavyweights. His upper body movement and tenacity was second to none in the division. Spectacular fighter! I watch all your videos over and over. This one is at the top of the list. Its incredibly well written and presented!! You are so f!$king talented!! I tried leaving some contact info but UA-cam isnt having it. Take good care and thank you for another masterpiece... one after another after another... my guy!
Thank you Michael my friend! I'm happy that I decided to try again and finish the project, I think having to start all over again and make the video twice was a blessing in disguise as it gave me more time to appreciate Frazier's legacy and I think the video came out better the second time round. If you want you can send me an email at rainydayboxing@hotmail.com I don't use email very often, but I'll be able to send you links to get early access.
Ali lit a fire inside of Frazier that never died, and even though Frazier was blind in one eye he still commanded respect and if you didn't give it to him he would take it from you in the ring. That's exactly what happened with Ali too, Frazier earned that respect from a guy that didn't just give it to anyone!!! Frazier will ALWAYS be champ to me!!!
Phenomenal documentary, one of the best I have ever seen, to the point it nearly got me teary eyed at how you made the distinction on Joe being his own man, champion and all time great, rather than simply Ali's nemesis, like many list him as. Love your accurate commentary and the detail that many, many people would miss. Plus your voice is so appropriately authentic. People are very quick to note Ali's 3 and a half year lay off before he got dismantled by Frazier in fight 1 but they rarely recognise that he was legally blind in one eye and Ali swelled up the other to the point he was effectively fighting on instinct and not sight, in the final rounds of Manilla, which is why I am so pleased you comment specifically on that. Notice how he couldn't even see the shots to avoid them and yet still he was finding some success against a rallying Ali in rounds 13-14. One of the GOATs and my all time favourite boxer. A champion in and out of the ring. Wonderful to see him getting more appreciation.
Thank you for the very detailed comment, I really do appreciate your kind words. Glad you enjoyed my take on Smokin Joe's story, his tale and legacy as his own man definitely needs to be remembered!
Sorry 😞 he'was not rallying on the tide had turned from round 11 onwards in 1975 manila ali came back strong with all reserves of energy just as he seemed beaten a champion landing hard right hands with swift combinations .Frazier fought hell of a fight landing left hook's and right hands.
Joe did all he could in the 3rd fight but he did not find any success at all in round 14 and not enough to live on in round 13. Unfortunately, his moment had passed.
Mr J 1283 : uh , could it be that Ali knew about Joe Frazier’s eye ? That he was legally blind in it ? And targeted his good eye during the fight? Could you answer that query for me , if you can ?
Thank you for this. I am ashamed that i had never taken the time to learn more of this man. As implied by the commentator I have been one of those who never understood his story or skills. I stand humbled and grateful. I know this sounds like a platitude but this really impacted me viscerally.
We can argue forever who was the greatest but the bottom line is these 3 great boxers were and always will be the greatest boxers ever Ali FrazierForeman in the greatest Era of heavy weight boxing courage talent and guts.
Although always an admirer of the unbelievably skilled Ali! Both in the ring, and out of it in all manner of media settings! I must Admit after watching this video, the respect I have for the unassuming Joe Frazier is profound! What an incredible human being this man is! That first fight both men were almost super human in effort & courage! the one in Manila doubled down when you consider what they did for 14 rounds in stifling humidity! RESPECT!
The content in this video is outstanding!!!! I’ve always been a fan of Joe Frazier and preferred is slick style as an in fighter more so than Ali’s beautiful Float Like A Butterfly Sting Like A Bee method… Joes style was so much more in depth and contained so much simple intricacies than what others could see within his style!!!! As a young teen and I’m only 26 now I’m still madly in love with his in fighting style!!! With all of that being said this is one of the most in death documentaries I’ve ever seen about joe!!! Feeling his energy through this is an amazing feeling so thank you!!!!
@@RainyDayBoxing Joe Frazier was and still is my hero. He had the best left hook in the business. I remember a few years back when he passed how sad I was.
This is a very good mini-doc. It certainly evokes my compassion for Mr. Frazier, and I love his philosophical statement about being "alone" whether on the road training or in the ring. The footage of those left hooks is truly riveting, and Joe is a very respectful human being (with a talent for boxing).
This brought tears to my eyes, I’ve watched many of his fights repeatedly but I never knew Ali was bullying him so badly. I think it’s fair to say that Joe won 2 out of the 3 fights they had since Ali was behind on the scorecards and Joe begged for the fight to be continued. What a warrior he was.
Actually Ali was ahead on the scorecards in the thrilla of Manilla. However, Ali was about to quit on his chair and not go in to the 15th round but Fraziers coach didn’t let Frazier go on and surrendered before Ali quit
@@DaniP0120 I didn`t know that. Since Ali was ready to collapse, Frazier could have one that in the last round. Imagine Ali throwing in the towel? Hard to believe, but that almost happened!
The second fight, in 1974 when both were ex-Champions was very close. The referee allowed Ali to get away with a lot of holding and pushing down on Frazier.
@@jaunnada3648 the young kid telling the old timer to learn LOL you have been muted, kiddo feel free to reply with more nonsense, but I'll never see another word you type
"But if we measure a man with his heart and his character then Smoking Joe was a mountain of a man" well said by the Narrator. First time learning about this legend.
@soitsanightmare after a 3 year lay off your first fight is the Champ of course your not going to do well. Smokin Joe still couldn't knock him out. Ali came back and fucked him up twice back to back.
Excellent video. What a great example of a champion. Not a trash talker, a human bring, with empathy, who could also bring the storm, the tornado, and the earthquake..
Ali was a great boxer and a greater entertainer. He did bring excitement to the heavyweight boxing and literally revived it. However, even those of us who loved him thought that he had a big mouth and did not approve of some of his antics. Joe was the only one to shut Ali's mouth up, although, temporarily. Joe Frazier was a great boxer and just as this video points out utterly under appreciated. .
Thanks for making this video. I am glad to know these facts. At the time when these fights occurred Joe Frazier was overshadowed by Ali's personality and just seemed to be a very scary and dangerous fighter. Now after all these years Frasier is the really heroic figure in my view.
@@chrisdinke271 plenty of good fights happen. 130 and under had a lot good fights this year. Cruiserweight had some good ones and even light heavyweight and also the 154 and 140 divison. Y’all just give so much attention to 135, heavyweight and 147 and think that’s all boxing when it isn’t. You not a true fan of the sport
I'm 45 years old born in 1977. As for me I'll always look at smokin Joe as top five heavyweight champs of all time. Totally underrated and totally disrespected by Muhammad Ali. I get it he was trying to make money but it's a shame the way he went about it Muhammad Ali that is. Muhammad Ali regretted doing that. Unfortunately Joe Frazier never forgave him, can't say I blame him. I always thought Tyson reminding me a lot of Frazier. That compact Cobra ready to strike in a moment's notice. There's no doubt in my mind that if you trace Joe Frazier's lineage it would lead to the great gladiators of the Roman times.
Seeing Ali stumbling around the ring with Frazier beating his brakes off brings absolute joy to my heart❤️ You sir will be remembered as the humble man who destroyed the proud RIP
@@cislife7140 Foreman was fighting men who were fat and looked nothing like the men he fought younger nor when Ali was coming up. He had a better fighting chance given how the landscape changed and his skill set mentally. Ali was forced out of the sport for a considerable amount of time.
"If you cheat in the dark of the morning, you'll get found in the bright lights of the night." - Joe Frazier
After completing the majority of work for this video, my hard drive became corrupt and I lost the file to this project and about 6 weeks worth of work. I really didn't feel like starting from scratch again and I thought about just scrapping this mini doc altogether. I'm glad I decided to try again and complete the video because I feel like this is one of best documentaries that I've made. I hope you all feel the same.
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Keep up the great work brother. Your one of 5 channels i watch don't be discouraged on those glitches. I haven't recorded in over a month. In process of writing a book. Ill be back myself. The very best.
WE’RE glad you didn’t scratch the project. We’re glad. Thank you, the character in your videos outweighs any production, any size of either the other “Boxing Doc” Channels around. I won many fights thanks to your videos. Watching the training playlist on repeat gives me the courage and energy before all my fights to push through and fight.
I greatly enjoy your videos. This channel feels like the library Mike Tyson submerged himself in when he moved in with Cus. As a texas boy,, The Jack Johnson doc is my favorite.
It's a banger of a clip, and the subject is Joe Frazier, so pushing it through the loss of a hard drive fits in very well thematically 👍
No way my guy is going to scrap hard work... hes gonna work twice as hard to make it happen and we are all thankful for it!!
Your friend, Michael ✌👊
(Just started watching and already glued to it)
I met Joe Frazier one time in the Philadelphia airport. What a nice guy, took time to talk with a nobody and gave me his signature. One shake of his hand and I knew right away why he was the champ.
that's awesome!
I'm a Joe fan. Ali was an ass. Joe tried to help Ali and spent his own money and efforts to help Ali get back into boxing and then Ali talked some vicious crap about Joe. Joe was a class act, man. I recognize Ali as a great boxer. Maybe the greatest. But Joe was a terrific boxer and also a good human.
@@brandonbp122 Agree ali was a good boxer but an asshole whereas Joe had class
@@brandonbp122 the thing is talking mess the way Ali did was what brought controversy and sold tickets. It was part of why we're still talking about it today. Same reason Mike Tyson would talk about eating people's kids. Boxing is also entertainment
@@papialeman Yeah probably. But I don't think Joe was on-board. And to treat a man like that when he helped you immensely is classless.
The most amazing thing about frazier is he was essentially blind in one eye and had a short arm due to an accident he had as a kid.... dude was a WARRIOR
Wait a minute he went his whole career like that??
@@kidofsteel0362 YUP couldnt straighten his left arm since he broke it as a kid and his eye was legally blind after a training accident early on in his career
That’s absolutely nuts damn he’s a legioned
Apparently the slightly odd angle of his left arm was partially what allowed him to load so much power into his left hook.
@@eucerin_perin maybe that’s why his hooks were so deadly . Some of the best hooks I’ve ever seen .
Joe Frazier to me is what I imagined boxing as a kid, a sportsman who doesn't speak much, driven by his relentless will wether if it is fueled by anger, frustration, determination or to overcome his adversities. Though to me, the greatest martial artists stayed humbled throughout their lives, master of their crafts who doesn't get changed by fame or wealth and Joe Frazier was one of them... Rest in Peace champ.
In 1960, JFK became the first "made for TV" President and Ali became the first "made for TV" Boxer. It was Ali who started all the Trash Talk and antics in the ring that was to go one to influence many other Boxers in the future. It was with Ali that Boxing became less of a Sport and more of a Performance, a little like what happened in Pro Wrestling. But the promoters knew how to get more SUCKERS to buy more tickets, even SUCKERS who had never been interested in Boxing before. Their trick was to give the audience a "Show" rather than a straight "Sporting Event". Ali was the one who started "Boxing as a Performance" and today, at age 73, I'm convinced that his "act", his "performance" Was NOT just of his own invention. Someone behind the scenes had written Ali's script for him, perhaps some Powerful and Smart men behind the scenes who already knew how much money could be made from this new thing called TV. All you needed was avery talented boxer whose Big Mouth and childish antics make a Tidal Wave of SUCKERS gladly open up their wallets for that Egomaniac disguised as a Boxer named Ali. And Ali's Egomania was a template for all the Egomaniacs to follow in his wake, "Showmen" like Leonard, Macho Camacho and lately Boxers like Tyson Fury. Ali was really the WORST Thing to happen to the History of Boxing. So much so that fans called the more recent Champion Klitschko brothers from Ukraine "boring" because they still saw Boxing as a Sport and NOT At All as a Performance or an Act of any type.
Rot in HELL, Muhammad Ali !!!
As a lifelong Boxing fan, I wish that you had never even been born !!!
Boxing today in 2022 would certainly be better if you had NEVER Even Existed !!!
@@JosephKulik2016 That’s the worst opinion I’ve ever seen. On any subject. Ali was the greatest. You bum.
@@JosephKulik2016 I respect the First Amendment. However, F*ck you very much. Ali was a great boxer who earned every good thing he got from his career. Ali was also a great human being. They still remember Ali after death. When you're gone, no one will miss or remember your old, miserable @$$.
@@JosephKulik2016 calm your tits down old man
Rip Frazier.
What a classy guy. Instead of just parading the belt, he used his personal cash and influence to make sure the deposed champion come back to face him. That's real class.
Great point, didn't see it that way. Most fighters would've paraded with the belt & left the true champion to fend for his self.
Look at what's going on today. The best fighters are hesitant to fight. So they sure as hell wouldn't bail each other out to fight them. Frazier was a true champion. Essentially freed Ali just so he could beat him and PROVE he's the real champ
It(SuperFight1)was the first guaranteed million dollar purse in the HWboxing history where two undefeated heavyweight champions met to decide the title
I have a ton of respect for Joe Frazier. The only thing I hated about him was his letting his son fight Tyson and Larry Holmes.
@@timthompson8297His son was a grown man, he didn’t let his so do anything, it was Marvis Frazier’s decision.
@@A-FrameWedge Now was his manager as well as father. If I had been he, I would have done anything to prevent him from getting almost killed.
When the British TV show "This Is Your Life" honored Muhammad Ali in 1978, one of the final guests, which came as a complete surprise to Ali, was Joe Frazier. Frazier walked out on stage with a smile a mile long, happy to be there, happy to see Ali, and he turned a great event into an even greater event. And honestly, Ali didn't deserve Frazier's presence, and he probably knew it. Not after the horrible things he'd said about Frazier for years on end. But Frazier was the bigger man on that day in 1978, and he probably taught Ali something about humility as well, hopefully making Ali a better person for it.
I saw that show on UA-cam and you can tell Ali was happy to see Joe and was humbled by his presence. When Joe told a story about the 2 setting up the first fight in Joe's car Ali was just tickled by Joe story. Joe was a great champion and a great man. Ali I bet wished he didn't say all those terrible things.
I remember that show, it was on ITV with Emmon Andrews. My dad taped it on VHS cassette.
@@89DrFunk I believe this is even mentioned in "When We Were Kings" but I think Ali absolutely came to regret what he said about Frazier and respected the man. It was not Ali's individuality that made him so famous but his ability to connect to other humans and his ability to change, and I believe definitely changed a lot from the man who insulted Joe Frazier.
I looked this up because of your comment and man didn't take long, within a few seconds I had a tear welling up in my eye. Thanks for your comment that was something I never saw before.
Congratulations by your vídeo! It keeps alive the memory of boxing and its intimate connection with the social sciences. 👏🏻⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I genuinely cried. The man had such a big heart that makes all of us feel so small.
Cried a lot through out, cuz i was on Joes side always
Why was Ali so horrible to him.. makes me sad :(
@@Rando_Shyte Ali was not a good person, that's it.
Because Ali had the courage to stand against empire and joe did not. He was angry at joe for not rising to the occasion.
@@Rando_Shytehe apologized he said he was wrong and was just trying to sell the fight
I admire Joe Frazier. He was a real legend. So glad you made another video.
We all need to keep his name alive. Unnecessary overshadowed by Ali.his greatest foe
Thank you for your fantastic effort. It’s a service to our shared historical record, you’ve delivered real excellence 👌❤️
Ali is miles clear of him.facts@@johnwhyte7834
@@michaelgpartridge2384fear Allah unseen
@@johnwhyte7834don't die as a disbeliever
The boy with the crooked arm...
The boy blind in one eye..
The boy with a hook in his left hook...
The boy with the heart of an elephant and the resilience of the buffalo...
The boy smoking everything in his path...
The boy Joseph Willam Frazier ...
Don't forget the Boxing Champ who was wounded in battle at Guadacannal. He was just as tough. And acomplished.
Until he ran into George Foreman
@@68majortomstill think he took a dive.
The MAN!
@@Psyfi85 I shall remember this post with the a fond heart even though I obviously disagree but he was 1 tough cookie, to get up from the Canvas after being knocked down 5 times in 2 Rounds from a wrecking machine like Foreman tells you everything there needs to be known of Joe Frazier's Heart & Powers of Recovery. A very brave Man who Fought with a dodgy Eye, rose to the very top of his Sport & imo the very best Era in Heavyweight Boxing, 1st man to Beat Ali. Nobody can take that away from him, as much as I wish I could I can't deny him his famous Win. Harder than a coffin nail✌️🙏
Gotta love the way he handled himself inside and outside the ring.
R.I.P. Smo-King Joe!!!
@@NUNYABIZNNAAAZZZ gee, it looks like you don't know shit, homes.
"On March 8, 1971, in the "Fight of the Century" at Madison Square Garden, Frazier landed a left hook in the 15th round that sent Ali careening to the canvas. The unbeaten Frazier won a unanimous decision as he handed Ali the first defeat of his pro career."
Here's what Ali said after the fight.. (Ali the ingrate who insulted Frazier calling him an uncle tom, even though Frazier supported him and lobbied to get the ban lifted. And lent him money when he was broke.)
"I'm not going to cry. I made a lot of people unhappy when I beat them, so it's my time now. I'm not going to cry. A lot of great fighters get whipped. No one can hit as hard as Frazier. I'm satisfied with the fight even though I lost. I know I lost to a great champion, but maybe another time when both of us had been fighting regularly, the result would have been different. I don't know, but maybe."
Out of the three champs of the time, Ali, Frazier, and Foreman, Frazier is the most under rated by far. This was the best mini doc I have ever seen on Frazier. Thanks for making this and may the man R.I.P.
life is unfair
I would put lennox lewis on there as well
@@999Caliber he said of the time so the 70s
Sugar Ray Robinson in there too..different weight class but Def one of the Best
Ali was a champion in his own mind...
Went to see Fraziers statue in Philadelphia I payed my respects to this man rest easy Frazier you’ll never be forgotten 🥊❤️
❤️🦾💎🙏❤️❤️
Is there a statue of him in Philly? I didn't realize that. I knew they had a statue of the fictional white champion. Happy to hear they built one for the baddest real heavyweight that ever lived. Is it in a good spot, or did they put it in the subway?
@@anthonyjohnson9403 they put it outside in front of some sports bar called xfinity live as soon as you go in front of the building the statue is right out front
@@A.hopk1ns Oh, okay. Well that's good. Years ago, when they put that Balboa statue up, that was such a slap in the face. I'm glad they finally honored a real man. Stallone should have turned that honor down. That boy knew he hadn't earned any boxing accolades. But not Stallone. In typical Euro American fashion, he accepted an honor he knew he didn't deserve.
They have the Ali movie, Cinderella man,and now big George movie I wished the would have a smoking Joe movie
As Rainy Day Boxing already alluded to.
''Champions aren't made in the ring, they are merely recognized there.
You can map out a fight plan or a life plan, but when the action starts, it may not go the way you planned,
and you're down to your reflexes, training your preparation, perseverance.
That's where your roadwork shows.
If you cheated on that in the dark of the morning, well, you're going to get found out now, under the bright lights.''
- Joe Frazier -
That's real
Joe frazier you arent alone bro
You have more fans than you can even imagine
A mans heart and his will is what makes him refuse to quit
and Joe you are one of the greatest fighters in boxing history
I wish Joe knew about how many people had his back before he passed.
Amen brother.
@Mark One Ali called him a monkey and black shamed him for his skin colour and flat nose. literally WTF. I respect Ali for his fighting but FFS.... still trying trying to work out why Ali is the "greatest"
Anything for joe❤
@Mark One I don't have to write anything you just summarized everything I've always felt & wanted to say. Thank you 😊 13:23
In my personal opinion, Joe Frazier was the real life version of Rocky. Yes, I know Chuck Wepner was the inspiration, but come on. Joe's from Philly, he trained in a slaughterhouse he worked at by punching meat, he ran the steps of the Philly museum, he defeated the goat, and he was known for having the biggest heart in all of boxing. He's Rocky. Or better yet, Rocky is Joe.
Bill Burr correctly pointed out that it was insane that Philadelphia put up a statue for Rocky BEFORE Joe Frazier 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Well, the only counterpoint to that is that Joe wasn't necessarily an underdog. Like yeah, maybe in the media circus because Ali ran circles around him in the press, but in terms of actual fighting he was a beast.
@@DioBrandoWRYYYYYYHe was the underdog
@robbiedubbelman3024 They put a fictional white guy's statue up before a real life legendary black boxer.
@@CatsClaw44 In terms of public perception, sure, but Rocky in the original movie was not even a particularly good boxer. Joe was actually good, and for all the unfair things people said about him at the time, there was no real arguing over his legitimacy as a world class fighter
Smokin' Joe was one of the greatest. Glad this doc portrayed him in that light. His heart, talent and all around toughness should never be forgotten.
Don't die as a disbeliever
“There ain’t no right way to do wrong and no wrong way to do right”…Joe Frazier… Greatest of all time
100%. Smokin’ Joe.
@@QatarVegandon't die as a disbeliever
Don't die as a disbeliever
He was great, but Ali is the greatest of all time, undisputedly. No one comes close. Joe was a vicious warrior, he used his entire body to K.O Ali. But at the end of the day, that was only a fluke because Ali beat the floor with him the next 2 fights.
Joe was so tough you can't measure it. Nobody actually compares to him when it comes to being able to take a punch and to throw one back. Plus, he was just a nice guy.
You need to watch more heavyweight fights.
@@jaunnada3648 maybe you need to watch more fights. No one today including Tyson could have beaten Ali or Frazier
Its really odd your analysis, did you watch Joes fight with Foreman? The nightmare it was? Is like he had cheated being world champion? I think he had studied Ali's weakness and blind spots and then trained around that. Is why Ali nearly died in that ring..however to state that he was the greatest and all is a bit far fetched
@@kafungechaofficial4746 Frazier got wrecked in the first Ali fight. Before that he would have beaten foreman
@@cptathensjohnclaba8705 Maybe... Many fighters really aren't the same after very tough fights. You can see it sometimes in MMA too. Most people never take a hard punch in their entire life. These guys take many murderous blows.
He helped Ali and bailed out his family when Ali was in prison. He was rewarded with a barage of insults and public humiliation. I can't forgive Ali for that. Don't think Joe could either. Rip, legend of a man.
Winston Smith ...Muhammad Ali was never in prison. Read a book!
You made great points...well said !
@@brucescott4261 I don't know why I hear so many people that claim Ali went to prison.
He got sentenced to prison, but he remained out while his appeals were pending.
Just look at how he disrespected Sonny Liston. "Getting in his head"? He literally would slam on his door and shout taunts in the middle of the night!, with a crew to watch his back! And all the public harassment? Ali knew damn well that the cops would save him if Liston lost his temper. I lost all respect for the man outside the ring after actually researching his life. Frankly?; He was cocky A-hole clown!
Yeah Ali was a clown.
Never knew much about Frazier outside of him knocking out Ali.
What an amazing story and what an amazing man. Certainly gained a fan
As a kid I rooted for Ali including his bouts vs. Frazier. As I got older with better knowledge of facts and understanding the ways of the world, my respect for Frazier grew exponentially. I prefer Frazier and it makes me angry how poorly Ali treated Frazier even after Frazier went out of his way to help Ali including lending him money when Ali was broke. Frazier's legacy is strong, but I think he deserves a higher rating given his many big wins, quality of opponents during a golden era of HW boxing, his smaller/shorter size and reach in a tough HW division. He was also nearly blind in one eye. Despite his short height and reach, Frazier exerted extreme pressure on his opponents, wading forward, bobbing and weaving to close the distance. Once inside, Frazier would throw viciously powerful hooks and upper cuts. Absolutely brutal body puncher. He beat Ali badly in their first fight and that was Ali in his prime when everyone felt that Ali was perhaps the greatest boxer ever. Frazier dominating Ali in their first fight is how I remember Frazier and not the beating he took vs. George Forman. Frazier was the epitome of toughness (mental & physical) and personal character. RIP Joe!
State facts right ali was off 3years before that fight. No one can be in his prime when hes off for that time
@Mohamed Laarabi Ali was mighty close to his prime when they fought the first time. He was out of boxing for 3 years because he made the choice not to fight for his country knowing there'd be serious ramifications. He made that choice, nobody else.
@@milojanis4901 fight for his country? Was murica getting invaded or something? Dont drag us to the mud kid, i talk sport do you know it? if u do then you will understand that no matter how much sparring you have its never the same thing as fighting. Love both fighters but ali was way off that night and the second one between them was a good proof
I, like many, was mesmerised by Ali 'performance'.
But, 'How poorly Ali treated Frazier'?!...the man couldn't keep his mouth shut from spitting incessant insults at Frazier. He was incandescently insulting to JF. And thankfully Ali was genuinely repentant at how he spoke about JF.
And any guy who could fight like JF did, blind in one eye and a shortened arm, was one hell of a dude. Not to mention he was always a gentleman.
@@mohamedlaarabi7148 Exactly.
Excellent presentation! I've read many books on boxing and the one episode that sticks in my mind is how badly Ali treated Frazier after Frazier not only helped Ali get his boxing licence back but also lent him funds to survive! Frazier is my all time favourite boxer; not just because of his ordeals in the ring but also how he conducted himself outside of the ring. Thank you for a fantastic vid :-)
Some of that I didn't know and one of my thoughts was Ali acted like an ass.
@@sdgakatbk ali was a great fighter persona idol etc. But as a real person not so much. We all have flaws we all make mistakes however what he said about Joe was mean and a double cross. In the big picture most people over look his mean spirit displayed in the public eye. If he was a Politian he would have ruled if he was a Full time hollywood star he could have been a box office smash but deep down inside Ali was nt so nice.
AMEN AND AMEN WORLD CLASS PERSON OF FAITH IN KING LORD JESUS CHRIST AMEN……DR.BRYANT LANE.
thats really happen? i cant believe clay or ali acting like that against a wonderful guy and great warrior colleague like smokey joe....thats too bad....
Ali was promoting the fight
Joe was an extremely SMALL heavyweight, even by 1970 standards. The standard heavyweight was around 6’3, 220 lbs. Joe was a dwarf by comparison at 5’10 and a weight that might go as low as 190 lbs. That small man humbled many giants. Hat tip to you, Joe.
Fraizer was always listed at 5'11 and a half so you can basically say 6 ft
@@youtoo2233 5’11 in his shoes, king of like Iron Mike-also 5’10 without shoes
@@youtoo2233 joe frazier was like 5'11 almost
He was six feet tall and weighed over 205 lbs. and he was strong as an ox.
@@syourke3 you're saying that he was 6 ft tall because that's what you heard from somebody that also heard that that's why they said it too. Joe was never 6 ft tall barefoot not even 5'11. 5'10" and some change
It was fight between Humility (Joe) and Pride (Ali), finally Humility won, Joe you are a hero😊
I never thought about it like that
@@sherrillraymond7595yes it was like that😂
@@Simondawonde that was a good analogy
Good stuff. Frazier could not possibly match hand speed with Ali. So, he had to get inside. And just keep on coming. It worked in the first fight, but Joe took the beating of his life but won anyway. His face looked like an ugly Halloween mask. Welts, swollen. His life was at stake in the hospital. Ali was a dangerous heavyweight prize fighter who could kill an average man with his lighting fast hands. The hideous beating Ali dished out after a THREE-YEAR LAYOFF was unbelievable. No other man on earth could do that to Joe. None. Ali won the second fight, and the third fight was one for the ages. Nothing but love and respect for both fighters. ❤❤❤
@@MegaMkmillerPerfect analogy.
Have to admit it was nice to watch the smirk get wiped off Ali's face by mid fight. RIP Joe
The first fight is the only one where one guy beat the others ass. That would be Frazier kicking Ali's ass...
@Milo Janis so true the other fights were wars but neither man would cave they'd rather die and you could tell both guys might of got punched but refused to show any type of conceed to defeat what so ever
@@milojanis4901 You are IGNORANT. Frazier spent 3 weeks in the hospital after Ali-Frazier 1. Ali left the hospital the same same.
Who whipped who's ass. Frazier won the fight, no doubt; but, he didn't whip Ali's ass. By the way, I loved both fighters equally. Did not prefer one over the other. My two favorite fighters. I wasn't around when Joe Louis was fighting.
ali won 2-1 in the end
@Trevor James well from that than I would say why does everyone else like the commenter feel that way if your not Joe Frazier?
To me, Joe's second greatest fight, right behind his victory over Ali, was the Foreman fight. To get knocked down 6 times by the heaviest most vicious punches any boxer ever absorbed (one Foreman punch launched Joe's entire body off the ground), and to get up 6 times ready to fight some more was the most champion thing I ever saw in life. To this day. As pure boxing goes, he became my all time favorite that night. Love you, Smokin Joe. You're #1 in my book.
That fight reminded me of the fight scene in "Cool Hand Luke" where Paul Newman's character kept getting up and said to George Kennedy's character "you're going to have to kill me" Frazier had no ability to "stay down"
Yeah. Paul Newman played some of the coolest characters ever seen on film. And they didn't always come out on top like some bogus super hero. Joe was even cooler and absolutely real. Not the best boxer ever, but my hands down favorite.✊🏾💯
This doesn't get talked about enough! The fact that Frazier got up SIX TIMES against arguably the strongest puncher in boxing history, George Foreman, and still looked ready to go the distance, is simply incredible. The man was literally the meaning of the phrase "He doesn't stop."
@@khoshaba-cr3oi And yet Ali made Foreman look ineffectual. Imagine being one of the "strongest punchers" in heavyweight history and this guy comes out, takes everything you have, says "that all you got?" and then knocks you down. That era was truly the highlight of heavyweight boxing
@@harfgarflarf Foreman would have knocked Ali around the ring for fun if he'd just invited him come to him in the centre of the ring. Ali didn't have the reach to dance round Foreman or the strength to knock him out and as champion Foreman didn't have to do anything except invite Ali forward.
Being 66 now and having watched these fighters as a young teen, my respect and admiration for Mr. Frazier has only increased throughout the years. You have provided an excellent narrative as to not only the Boxing Talents of Mr. Frazier but his solid Character and Integrity as well. As far as his historical impact upon Boxing, i truly believe he is without a doubt Top 10! 🤙
For sure and to history unfortunately he forever lives in Ali’s shadow
But just as a fighter he’s definitely a top ten heavyweight ever
Best ever!!!!!! I was 7 Years old,and I celebrated Joe!!!🇩🇪🇮🇹🇳🇱
Frazier was a model of dignity and integrity and a devastating fighter. We all know that being a heel drives ratings, but I get choked up seeing the amount of abuse that Ali dragged into their rivalry. I bet he felt a lot of remorse for it in later life.
Sure he regretted getting the absolute shit beat out of him lol
@@realericanderson mhm by dropping Ali in the first fight while being blind and with an arm problem. 😂🤣🤣🤣
@datfitycal Yeah. George brought it all to the ring.
Ali (Clay) was so punch drunk in later life, I doubt he knew much of anything! "Parkinson's"...Yeah, RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
After the Thriller in Manilla Muhammad Ali called for Joe's son Marvis. He said to him he was sorry for the hurt he had caused their family, and to tell his father that he didn't mean the things he had said. It was an olive branch. Marvis told his father, and Frazier said no, why doesn't he say those things to me, why doesn't he apologise to me.
A complicated relationship, and it's easy to see that moment from both sides. Ali respected Frazier, he just didn't pay him that respect in public. For Joe Frazier, as a straightforward and proud man, sentiment was all well and good but simply had to be backed up by man to man, face to face respect.
Joe inspired me to practice the noble art but above all his behavior inside and outside the ring is something exceptional. Thank you for this video in his memory 🙏🏻❤️
he also had great style lol
i hope you pretty like ali and not like frazier
"My skin is blacker than him, I grew up in the ghetto, he grew up in the suburbs.
He is making me the white guy because he has a gift from god that he can talk better than me"
Such a straightforward moment of truth. To be honest, it cuts a lot deeper than Ali's funny rhymes.
Joe just said things as they are and laid out the most important facts. No bees no butterfly bullshit.
Joe was real can’t say the same for Ali
Ali paid for his mouth later in life so poetic justice yet all these fanboys want to call someone who dehumanizes his opponents the greatest smh
@@zues2013I always say this. That was karma
@@rgkgamedogs5345Foh. ALI GOAT.
@@zues2013Foh. ALI GOAT you loser!
That first fight between Ali and Frazier was absolutely destruction from Frazier, Ali wasn't ready.
Oh he was ready....just plain out boxed.
He was ready alright Ali got hammered from Frazier saying he to ugly to be champion
No Ali version was going to beat Frazier that night.
Ali's mouth made him ready. And what about the third fight when Ali was being beaten to near death and collapse in his corner. Was Ali ready then?
@@Hero-3 The 1966 version Ali would have ran circles around Frazier and would have beaten him, although would not have knocked him out.
Love both of these men. Used to think Ali was a personal hero. But with time, it was Joe Frazier and his heart and humility which I came to respect the most. Incredible fighters both.
Frazier was not an all time great,he was trouble for Ali and that was it. He ducked an old Sonny Liston Ernie Shavers and Ron Lyle for starters. He beat two tomato cans in his only title defenses and was nearly beaten twice by a very pedestrian Bonevena. I do think that style wise Tyson was a super charged version of Frazier who would have iced Ali in later rounds or beat Ali in a very lobsided decision. Mike had a much better defense than Joe and hit way harder and faster.
Heroes don't dodge drafts!
@@st7728 Yes Ali had feet of Clay no pun intended. He didn't dodge the draft because of protest but because he feared for his life and Ali only wanted to make money. A sports illustrated reporter accidently left a recorder running and was talking to Ali at the time of his refusal and Ali said on the recording that he just wanted to make money and not fight in war. The whole doing it for Asains or blacks was a lie as most of Ali's legacy was a lie, Ali had the right not to go but his pretending to be a hero and proclaimed hero for his stand when he was just a coward is pathetic and tells you Ali was just faking as always.
@@jaunnada3648 doesn’t matter why he dodged the draft lmao
Imagine being FORCED into a war you want nothing to do with knowing you’ll probably die and being called a coward for not accepting that and being ok with it. Fuck the draft and fuck the government
@@jaunnada3648well it turns out the incident that lead to the US involvement in vietnam was a false flag attack carried out by our own government on ourselves. Whether or not Ali's reasoning was cowardly, the war was an unjustified retarded shit-show that is responsible for thousands of families never seeing their children, and thousands of children never seeing their parents again. I wouldn't have dodged but you cant blame anyone who did. imagine your dad dying because he got drafted to go to ukraine. Imagine your 18 year old child fresh out of high school having to go crawl in tunnels through enemy lines all because a country 10,000 miles away is getting attacked. Its stupid and the draft itself is horrible, only time it should be nessecary is during a mainland invasion of the US.
Joe Frazier is the definition of warrior. RIP Joe Frazier. God bless you.
All boxer's should study this man, not just for his fight skills but his conduct of character as well. Thank you for sharing this with us!
I am seventy years old now and Joe Frazier is and always will be my favourite heavyweight champion of the world of all times, in the ring and outside of the ring.
The true champion for me.
I don't even like boxing, but these stories are so told so well and so universally awesome that I am glued to my seat watching with excitement. It's nice to see someone rise from nothing with nothing but determination and hard work.
Thank you very much for the kind words. I'm glad you're enjoying the series!
Honestly, all the content from@@RainyDayBoxing is quality. They show so much reverence for what is a huge part of the global cultural legacy of martial arts.
@@RainyDayBoxing keep it up mate, ain't knowbody putting out small documentary's like this
Same
He was my hero, I remember listening to the first fight with my elder brother who was backing Ali, but when Joe smoked Ali with that left hook my heart skipped a beat and I remember thinking 'I think he just won' and he did. What a man, what a fighter, what a champion. RIP Joe.
What Ali did to Fraizer was unforgivable. Only a real man like Fraizer could forgive such betrayal. Unlike so many champions who became champions because of God given talents, Fraizer became a champion because he paid his dues and earned every fight he won, and lost. He was and will probably remain the most unappreciated and underrated heavyweight champion in history with, perhaps, the exception of Lennox Lewis, whose career seems to have been an eerie replay of the Joe's struggle for the cruel and fickle hearts of boxing fans. But, as anyone who has ever had to fight an opponent so adored and enamoured by his fans that they see you as no more than a bug to be crushed under their hero's foot, it is that hero's respect that matters the most. Joe Fraizer earned that respect the day he beat Ali where it counted the most: in the ring. RIP Mr Fraizer, for you earned your place as a champion and there are many who will always remember you for that.
Joe was a Sigma.
Why are people saying it was unforgivable and he got his revenge. Like what more could he have got other than to maul Alli. And he did! Alli was a trash talker. What did you expect??
@@whoopdewhoop7154 well the thing that Ali did was, despite being a supposed civil rights icon, that he attacked Fraizer for being "uglier, dumber and blacker" than him, and that's after Fraizer, quite graciously actually supported Ali and helped him return to the sport. It's extremely hypocritical and ungrateful. Fraizer helped him, only for Ali to try to use Joe head as a springboard while saying "later, loser". It completely torpedos the mythic persona of Ali as this great man of virtue.
Like you can make the argument that Ali was just selling the fight, but the counterpoint to that is that if Ali really cared about his fellow blacks and how they're looked at by the rest of the world, then maybe he wouldn't try to destroy public perception of another black man who objectively came from even worse circumstances just to squeeze even more money out of the media circus. It's dishonorable.
@@DioBrandoWRYYYYYYI totally agree! This changes my perspective of Muhammad Ali...
The worst part is Joe’s kids were bullied because of every thing Ali was saying publicly. If anything, Joe’s kids didn’t deserve that.
He was the greatest in my personal opinion. And was glad to see him and ali move on from all the hatred they had for each other and become great friends.
Joe Frazier one of those guys that inspires me work hard and keep pushing no matter how tough things are. He's a legend
It was actually a dark, rainy/snowy, cold day where I live but my bright spot today was boxing training and unexpectedly getting a compelling doc like this to watch after a good training session. Much appreciated and please keep up the good work.
Happy to hear my video could make your day a little better! Definitely more to come.
The man who got me into boxing hallelujah
He deserves more credit. Great man, great fighter.
More joe frazier recognition... we love to see it!!
Frazier was and still is one of the greatest to ever lace up and get in the ring . He may not have been one of the biggest, fastest or strongest punchers . But he he was without question one of the busiest with a warriors heart and the will of 2 more. RIP Champ
Joe is a Great Boxer His name can't be forgotten may His Soul Rest In Peace RIP.
One of the greatest that ever lived. Thank you so much for this video.
Joe Frazier = Boxing Legend
@@yokattafn9068 lo siento amigo, no entiendo el Inglés, mi comentario se enfoca por el respeto y admiración deportiva que siento por Smokin Joe Frazier 👍👍
👏👏👏👏
Joe Frazier.
The Epitome of Courage.
An Unconquerable Heart. ❤
And the Best Left Hook in boxing history.
Thank you for the truth and we both know Joe did an incredible job in this fight!
Two out of three isn't bad. Fraziers left hook isn't even middle of the pack all time.
@@jaunnada3648 WTF? Tell that to Ali
@@kingtyomama6564 Why tell it to Ali? One knockdown in three fights, and Ali bounced right up. Patterson's left was far superior.
@@jaunnada3648 Well said, Patterson had a much more formidable weapon.
watching joe frazier box is maddening. he just keeps moving forward. never back. forward, forward, forward relentlessly.
Joe is the greatest for me , the guy was humble and kind. RIP Joe
Lol
Ali is the greatest
@@hasaanhasani no doubt 👍
@@362adeeburrehman6no, he isn’t. Foreman is. He came back to boxing in his 40’s after 10 years in retirement and regained his title
@@mrdenson3101 true Ali is like Conor McGregor who made UFC super popular and Ali made boxing famous
I loved Joe Frazier, I was lucky enough to attend his gym and spend sometime with him before he passed. A man more humble than he had any right to be, given all that he achieved. It’s impossible not to think of Ali alongside him, both great men in their own right but together they elevated each other’s legacies.
They elevated the sport, both legends.
I met Joe before he passed, once upon a time. I told him he was my favorite and he was so kind. Love Smokin Joe.
Same
MelmanCam3l Don't put Ali alongside Frazier. Frazier was worth a thousand Alis. Ali was a dishonourable man who took Frazier's money when his license was suspended and assassinated his character after he got his license back. There is no human worse than an ingrate who stabs his friend in the back.
Ali doesn't deserve to get his name uttered alongside Frazier's.
Sure u do White man
My uncle always said Frazier was his hero. So much so that, when he lost to Foreman, he got emotional. Frazier was one of the greatest people's champs.
Joe a real one for taking that beating from George
He was never a people's champ. He was a champ for wht people only.
@@1nevadacareerinstituteyou must be joking pal
@@1nevadacareerinstitute so stupidly hateful and ignnorant!!!!!
@@1nevadacareerinstitute are you joking?
2:52
"Joe always made time for his sack"
Very heartwarming, just a man and his bed... 😊❤
I'm sorry that Joe isn't around to see how much people love and appreciate him.
What Ali said and did, was despicable.
100% agree!! As much as I admire Ali (who was a true humanitarian as well as a spectacular fighter)--he crossed the line with his insults of Frazier. Joe never forgot--and I don't blame him a bit for despising Ali!!
Glad Frazier beat Ali, because Ali needed a good asswhipping.
I liked your comments not to disrespect you , but joe new ali would bring in the crowd with a gimmick which is not to hurt a fighter its to make them fight to counter, its easy to hit your appointment if he's more intent on hitting you but joe is still a legend ali was beat bye people who new what gimmick ment
Lousy Oriental. Joe was an Uncle Tom,.
Ali did nothing that he didn't do with many other opponents. And most of those opponents say that they were honored to be dissed by Muhammad Ali. Frazier came across as a very insecure man to be so bothered by Ali's trash talk.
I watch a TON of youtube and I don't remember last time I was rivetted to the screen as much as this.
I had to watch this standing up, from excitement.
Thanks for uplifting the story of Joe Frazier. It's easy to think that he was just an opponent... He was part of the golden era and a top tier champion who gave the audience everything they could ever want!
Thank you for your very kind words, I really appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed Joe's story.
The way he got up from those Foreman Bombs was ridiculous. Frazier was Willpower incarnate. He would have fought till death if he were allowed to do so, that kinda man never loses at anything.
Equally as brave and tough as Frazier were the Medal of Honor Winners.
Never cross a man who has helped you out!
Frazier beating Ali was one of THE most satisfying things ever seen in boxing
Me too 😂
I think he could have beaten Tyson at this time.
That is almost exactly what I was going to say . I decided to read some comments first . Now I don't have to say it because you already did !
@@davidprovance6609who knows boxers like them are so good that its hard to tell who would win in their prime.
@@davidprovance6609that isn’t even a question
Joe frazier is my favorite heavyweight of all time, he was TRULY relentless til the end, even when he was nearly out on his feet and had no clue where he was he was still tryna throw that left hook, he'd get hit with the force of a freight train and stand right back up before the ref got to 3. Ali was iconic, but I think people remember his trash talk a little more rosy than it actually was at the time. Joe was a class act and a warrior.
what a fighter...what a man...what a legend !
He was always moving forward, coming for you nonstop whether hurt or not. I never seen determination and courage like Smokin' Joe's in the ring. And coupled with that heart and willpower made me a fan of the man alone. He was a beast, and relentless like no other fighters I ever seen RIP Champ!🥊🥊
My favorite heavyweight he was a true warrior
Beat ali
Joe Frazier is a Legend he fought injured all along but still going. Truly an iconic man Smokin Joe!
After watching all of this, it’s quite sad to think about his under appreciation. God bless him. ❤️
This is the best documentary ever... yall did this man honor! I watched this like 4 or 5 times and shared it with everybody! Good job!!!
You're too kind, glad you enjoyed it enough to watch it more than once! Thank you for saying that and for sharing the video, really means a lot!!
@@RainyDayBoxing Grateful for your efforts ,,, well done !
God bless Joe Frazier, first fight I remember watching with my dad was Ali Vs Frazier Trilogy on dvd lol
Him alongside Sonny Liston are the reason I fell in love with this sport 🥊
Awesome video man respect ✊
"Train hard Jimmy and [may the] best man win" That's 100% champion talk.
Mr. Frazier sure did his roadwork. "if you cheat in the dark of the morning..." As someone who fought before, I believe this refers to roadwork. Roadwork is getting up at 4:30 AM and running before the sun comes up, no matter what the weather. If it's raining, you run. If it's snowing, you run. If it's unbearably cold, you run. The old greats would say "you better do your roadwork or you won't have any heart" and this is because getting knocked down and rattled is like going to sleep. The floor feels comfortable, you just want to doze off; but by being strict with your roadwork you find it easier to get up and go.
You make HBO quality docs. Thank you so much for teaching the younger generations about these absolute legends!
Thank you for saying that, that's a very big compliment for me! Glad you're enjoying the docs and that they're HBO level 🙏
What he said dude! I've always been a combat sports fan (MMA, Karate, Olympic Wrestling), but never taken anything other than a mild interest in boxing until recently and now I'm BINGEING all the big fights (Rumble in the Jungle, Gatti v Ward I II and III, Bowe vs Holyfield trilogy, you get the picture; enough of my rambling) and a big Thank You to you and all the other boxing channels that fuel this kick that I hope will never end!
I got to meet Joe when I was a teenager and he was just walking around Philly and me and bunch of other kids saw him. He was really nice to all of us. Great guy
Heroes never die. What a humble great fighter was Joe. ❤
People use word's like legend, top g, greatest, this man was above all that,
He was simply a force of nature who was from the lowest level of society but with the highest level of humanity
Joe is an inspiration and a real man.....too bad there aren't more men like Joe. America needs more men like Joe. 👍
Definitely, Straight up. True American.
Well you have Joe Biden...🤔🤔🤔
@@Darthmgtow 🤣🤣🤣 yipes!
Don’t wish for men like joe, be a man like joe
My eyes filled with tears a few times watching your doc. Touched and hit me hard.
Joe Frazier is one of my favourite heavyweights. His upper body movement and tenacity was second to none in the division. Spectacular fighter!
I watch all your videos over and over. This one is at the top of the list. Its incredibly well written and presented!! You are so f!$king talented!!
I tried leaving some contact info but UA-cam isnt having it. Take good care and thank you for another masterpiece... one after another after another... my guy!
Thank you Michael my friend! I'm happy that I decided to try again and finish the project, I think having to start all over again and make the video twice was a blessing in disguise as it gave me more time to appreciate Frazier's legacy and I think the video came out better the second time round.
If you want you can send me an email at rainydayboxing@hotmail.com I don't use email very often, but I'll be able to send you links to get early access.
Same for me, in tears. I like the female jazz vocalist and music in the beginning of video.
Ali lit a fire inside of Frazier that never died, and even though Frazier was blind in one eye he still commanded respect and if you didn't give it to him he would take it from you in the ring. That's exactly what happened with Ali too, Frazier earned that respect from a guy that didn't just give it to anyone!!! Frazier will ALWAYS be champ to me!!!
Phenomenal documentary, one of the best I have ever seen, to the point it nearly got me teary eyed at how you made the distinction on Joe being his own man, champion and all time great, rather than simply Ali's nemesis, like many list him as. Love your accurate commentary and the detail that many, many people would miss. Plus your voice is so appropriately authentic. People are very quick to note Ali's 3 and a half year lay off before he got dismantled by Frazier in fight 1 but they rarely recognise that he was legally blind in one eye and Ali swelled up the other to the point he was effectively fighting on instinct and not sight, in the final rounds of Manilla, which is why I am so pleased you comment specifically on that. Notice how he couldn't even see the shots to avoid them and yet still he was finding some success against a rallying Ali in rounds 13-14. One of the GOATs and my all time favourite boxer. A champion in and out of the ring. Wonderful to see him getting more appreciation.
Thank you for the very detailed comment, I really do appreciate your kind words. Glad you enjoyed my take on Smokin Joe's story, his tale and legacy as his own man definitely needs to be remembered!
@@RainyDayBoxing Absolutely right. Love it. Brilliant content.
Sorry 😞 he'was not rallying on the tide had turned from round 11 onwards in 1975 manila ali came back strong with all reserves of energy just as he seemed beaten a champion landing hard right hands with swift combinations .Frazier fought hell of a fight landing left hook's and right hands.
Joe did all he could in the 3rd fight but he did not find any success at all in round 14 and not enough to live on in round 13. Unfortunately, his moment had passed.
Mr J 1283 : uh , could it be that Ali knew about Joe Frazier’s eye ? That he was legally blind in it ? And targeted his good eye during the fight? Could you answer that query for me , if you can ?
Thank you for this. I am ashamed that i had never taken the time to learn more of this man. As implied by the commentator I have been one of those who never understood his story or skills. I stand humbled and grateful. I know this sounds like a platitude but this really impacted me viscerally.
We can argue forever who was the greatest but the bottom line is these 3 great boxers were and always will be the greatest boxers ever Ali FrazierForeman in the greatest Era of heavy weight boxing courage talent and guts.
@@johnoverhoff2373 well said.
Thank you for being open-minded and actually watching the video.
Respect
Although always an admirer of the unbelievably skilled Ali! Both in the ring, and out of it in all manner of media settings! I must Admit after watching this video, the respect I have for the unassuming Joe Frazier is profound! What an incredible human being this man is! That first fight both men were almost super human in effort & courage! the one in Manila doubled down when you consider what they did for 14 rounds in stifling humidity! RESPECT!
I have the utmost respect for smokin Joe, he was relentless, A true Champion 💯
The content in this video is outstanding!!!! I’ve always been a fan of Joe Frazier and preferred is slick style as an in fighter more so than Ali’s beautiful Float Like A Butterfly Sting Like A Bee method… Joes style was so much more in depth and contained so much simple intricacies than what others could see within his style!!!! As a young teen and I’m only 26 now I’m still madly in love with his in fighting style!!! With all of that being said this is one of the most in death documentaries I’ve ever seen about joe!!! Feeling his energy through this is an amazing feeling so thank you!!!!
Thank you for the kind words Khalil! Glad to hear that a big Frazier fan like yourself enjoyed the video!
@@RainyDayBoxing Joe Frazier was and still is my hero. He had the best left hook in the business. I remember a few years back when he passed how sad I was.
This is a very good mini-doc. It certainly evokes my compassion for Mr. Frazier, and I love his philosophical statement about being "alone" whether on the road training or in the ring. The footage of those left hooks is truly riveting, and Joe is a very respectful human being (with a talent for boxing).
This brought tears to my eyes, I’ve watched many of his fights repeatedly but I never knew Ali was bullying him so badly. I think it’s fair to say that Joe won 2 out of the 3 fights they had since Ali was behind on the scorecards and Joe begged for the fight to be continued. What a warrior he was.
Actually Ali was ahead on the scorecards in the thrilla of Manilla. However, Ali was about to quit on his chair and not go in to the 15th round but Fraziers coach didn’t let Frazier go on and surrendered before Ali quit
@@DaniP0120 I didn`t know that. Since Ali was ready to collapse, Frazier could have one that in the last round. Imagine Ali throwing in the towel? Hard to believe, but that almost happened!
I consider the third fight to be a draw. But Frasier definitely won the biggest and most important of the three.
The second fight, in 1974 when both were ex-Champions was very close. The referee allowed Ali to get away with a lot of holding and pushing down on Frazier.
Keep living in illusion, or believe frazier won all the 3 fights thats more good for you lol coz no one cares
JOE FRAZIER...a true champion...R.I.P. SMOKIN. JOE , you'll NEVER be forgotten...
Joe Frazier is in the top 5 Heavyweights of all time, period! What a fighter! Rest In Peace Champ!
Top 2, certainly.
@@jimcarrington6744 No need to exaggerate - too many good heavies to say Joe was #2. Top 10, absolutely.
@@4orrcountry you are too young to know
goodbye
If you learn more about boxing you will change that.
@@jaunnada3648 the young kid telling the old timer to learn LOL
you have been muted, kiddo
feel free to reply with more nonsense, but I'll never see another word you type
"But if we measure a man with his heart and his character then Smoking Joe was a mountain of a man" well said by the Narrator. First time learning about this legend.
There is alot of hype in this video. Frazier was a great man not so great a fighter, one of the most protected fighters of all time.
@@jaunnada3648 In what way was he protected ?
What a guy shame he doesn’t get the recognition he deserves the way he beat Ali the first fight was something else pure class and pure animal
He doesn't get much credit for that fight because of Ali's layoff
Paid a high price for his victory.
@@SanSolo22 got his ass whooped.
@soitsanightmare after a 3 year lay off your first fight is the Champ of course your not going to do well. Smokin Joe still couldn't knock him out. Ali came back and fucked him up twice back to back.
@@SanSolo22 Well the 2nd fight at Super Fight II in 1974 was said to be a controversial decision, but it was unanimous.
Excellent video. What a great example of a champion. Not a trash talker, a human bring, with empathy, who could also bring the storm, the tornado, and the earthquake..
It’s unreal to me how Frazier can keep up a high pace like that for rounds his overall style looks so tiring and he has HEART this man is a WARRIOR.
*A true class act, a warrior, a role model and a MAN*
A Suicidal Punk
@@madamtuzambetter than Ali’s bum ass
Joe Frazier is someone I would be honored to call my friend. Seeing Ali silent for once in his life is a beautiful thing.
Excellent tribute to the great Frazier.
These small documentaries you do are simply beautiful, thank you for keeping boxing history and legends alive
Thank you for the kind words Isaac, glad you're enjoying them!
Ali was a great boxer and a greater entertainer. He did bring excitement to the heavyweight boxing and literally revived it. However, even those of us who loved him thought that he had a big mouth and did not approve of some of his antics. Joe was the only one to shut Ali's mouth up, although, temporarily. Joe Frazier was a great boxer and just as this video points out utterly under appreciated. .
Thanks for making this video. I am glad to know these facts. At the time when these fights occurred Joe Frazier was overshadowed by Ali's personality and just seemed to be a very scary and dangerous fighter. Now after all these years Frasier is the really heroic figure in my view.
Back when the best fought the best. RIP to both legends.
They still do. Y’all just pay attention to certain weight classes. Blame the fans for covering the 0 and bashing boxers who dare to be great
True warriors!!!
@@vince11harris No they don't lmao, they cherry pick, for the most money, boxings a modernized bankruptcy joke
@@chrisdinke271 acting like boxing wasn’t corrupt back then with the mafia. Learn your history
@@chrisdinke271 plenty of good fights happen. 130 and under had a lot good fights this year. Cruiserweight had some good ones and even light heavyweight and also the 154 and 140 divison. Y’all just give so much attention to 135, heavyweight and 147 and think that’s all boxing when it isn’t. You not a true fan of the sport
Joe was a rare breed of warrior. He 💯 was willing to be carried out on a shield. No surrender no quarter. Do or die.
I'm 45 years old born in 1977. As for me I'll always look at smokin Joe as top five heavyweight champs of all time. Totally underrated and totally disrespected by Muhammad Ali. I get it he was trying to make money but it's a shame the way he went about it Muhammad Ali that is. Muhammad Ali regretted doing that. Unfortunately Joe Frazier never forgave him, can't say I blame him. I always thought Tyson reminding me a lot of Frazier. That compact Cobra ready to strike in a moment's notice. There's no doubt in my mind that if you trace Joe Frazier's lineage it would lead to the great gladiators of the Roman times.
Seeing Ali stumbling around the ring with Frazier beating his brakes off brings absolute joy to my heart❤️
You sir will be remembered as the humble man who destroyed the proud RIP
Please Ali was passed his prime. Had he not been Black balled it would of been better fights. Ali Health was declining.
@@ianrussellallcaps explain George Foremans age then, so what you say has no weight for a excuse
@@cislife7140 Foreman was fighting men who were fat and looked nothing like the men he fought younger nor when Ali was coming up. He had a better fighting chance given how the landscape changed and his skill set mentally. Ali was forced out of the sport for a considerable amount of time.
Everybody idolized Ali except me, I knew he was a draft dodging coward racist adulterer.
@@ianrussellallcaps Ali was not passed his prime thats bullshit and his health didnt start declining till 1976