I love the channel. Don't forget that the four cylinder and V8 LX's cars from 87 to 89 had the 85 mph speedometer. But, in 89, the 89 GT's had the 140 speedometer. 87 to 88 GT'S had the 85 mph speedometer in them. 90 to 93 V8 cars had the 140 mph speedometer in them. I've learned a lot of history of the Fox Bodies, and I hope to found one real soon.
I have had both hatchbacks and notchbacks and done hundreds of runs at the track I feel like that hatchbacks hookup a lot better for launching the car off the line. The notchbacks they are of course lighter so a little bit faster but if you are spinning the tires because you can't hookup it doesn't really matter if you are that slight bit faster. I have had identical mods on both my cars and the hatch was slightly better 60 foot with mickey thompson ET streets on both cars. I feel like the overall package of having a hatchback makes it more desirable in my opinion.
I noticed something you do but I don't think you've talked about. The trick of putting your thumb on & pressing the outer door handle to help keep it from breaking.
The 25th anniversary pony on the dash started in April of 1989 , it had a running pony with the writing “ 25th anniversary “ it lasted for approx 7 months , then every mustang until the end of production had the running pony with out the script.
My favorite car was seeing a 1990 hatch. I love them and was one of my fav 5.0 hatches. With ground effects lol. As I’m typing this I see you talking about my fav body style
Great video of information, It takes me back,had a 85 GT,and later had a 92 5.0 LX with the factory sunroof,really loved that car.Seeing all these foxbodies takes me back, always love all your videos,Keep up the great work.
I cant wait to start my project car. My mother own 89 5.0 LX notchback, it what I learn to drive in. She still has the car and I am getting off her. In the late 90 she wrecked it, so I'm rebuilding as a Saleen Clone.
Bought myself a brand new 90 LX 5.0 Hatchback when I was 19 years old after saving up for 3 years plowing snow. 13.4k. off the lot. Still wish I had it. Your commentary is spot on showing the differences on years, models etc.
I remember back in the day nearly everyone wanted a GT and the notchbacks were almost the red headed step child. A lot of people regarded the notchback as a fairmont and ugly. It was the very late 90’s - early 00’s the notchbacks became highly sought after. Good luck Finding a clean 5.0 notchback now that’s as reasonably priced as a comparable condition GT.
I miss my first Mustang GT 5.0!!! I'm on PONY #5 now... 87' GT 5.0 automatic, 89' 4 Cylinder (so good on fuel), 02' GT 4.6 stick shift, 05' 6 Cylinder, and now an 01 GT 4.6 convertible (stick shift)...
The map/dome lights changed in 92. The scope light and basic dome light was thru 91. The combination light (map and dome) was for 92 and 93. Fun fact - those later lights have the same screw pattern as the slimmer dome/map light in some of Ford’s other cars like the SN95 Mustang and the 97-03 F150.
The Map light was replaced in 1992, but 1991 models built after the first week of August had there map lights removed and replaced with the same dual functioning headlight/map light as the 1992 model. Most Foxbody mustangs built around August were a mix of parts from the current year and the new coming year.
Thanks for this video! I live in Norway, and just bought back the 1987 LX 2,5 my mother imported from the us. Not a big fox body community here so I try to learn what I can from UA-cam. The previous owners kept it in a good condition, and installed a thunderbird engine and a turbo after the original motor was beyond salvage. Due to tax laws they did not upgrade the engine to something more powerful. But I’m trying to learn how to make the best out of it! 😊
The year was 1993 and I had an ‘86 LX Vert, I was able to get my hands on ‘93 GT bumpers and ground effects so I swapped out the old 4 eyes, at the time she looked great. Fast forward 27 years and 1, I wish I still had that car and 2, I was stupid for getting rid of those now desirable 4 eyes 😎
Cheers, picked up a 93 GT convertible white with gray interior 99% stock. My graduation year, always wanted one. Beautiful shape. But need to learn more about it then it's a beautiful car by looking at it. Some good info here.. pretty novice at cars
I have a LX hatch back and I love the car. It was my grandpas and the story behind it was it was a Oklahoma state trooper patrol car that was rolled and fixed by a little dealer ship. Pretty much making it look like a factory car made for civilians. I’m just now starting to make and save money and I’m getting ready to order the clutch quadrant and fuel system and make it run and drive it as I fix it up as I go. It’s kinda rough but it’s nothing I’m afraid of fixing on my own
SVOs and saleens had 5 lug, as well as some of the other super rare foxes like the ssac. 86 was the first year with fuel injection but was still a 4 eye so 86-88 were speed density. Telling the difference between the 4 eye mustang's gt/lx is a whole different episode. Also the front fenders were different sizes to accommodate the larger 16/17" wheels when they went to them
@@Poohdaddymagic - Horsepower ratings for 82 and up Mustang GT's. 82 GT - 157 hp 83-84 GT - 175 hp 85 GT - 210 hp 86 GT - 200 hp 87-92 GT - 225 hp 93 GT - 205 hp (Ford change the hp rating but made no changes to the car)
@@281cobracar7 The HP ratings you listed for model years 1982 through 1985 GTs are only for the 5.0L carbureted versions. In model year 1982 the 4.2L engine was available in the GT, and in Canada only the 2.3T (turbo) engine was available in the GT. in model years 1983 and 1984 the 2.3T engine was available in the (Turbo) GT. In model years 1984 and 1985 the 5.0L engine in the GT could be carbureted or fuel-injected (CFI). In model year 1985 the fuel-injected 5.0L in the GT had one HP rating early in the model year, before the pseudo-dual exhaust system from the 1985 5.0L carb model was available with the CFI engine, and then increased 15 HP with the addition of the 4V exhaust system. 82 GT (5.0L) - 157 hp 82 GT (4.2L) - 111 hp 82 GT (2.3T) - unknown hp 83 GT (5.0L) - 175 hp 83 Turbo GT (2.3T) - 145 hp 84 GT (5.0L/CFI) - 165 hp 84 GT (5.0L/4V) - 175 hp 84 Turbo GT (2.3T) - 145 hp 85 GT (early 5.0L/CFI) - 165 hp 85 GT (late 5.0L CFI) - 180 hp 85 GT (5.0L/4V) - 210 hp
tail lights- gt have cheese grater 87-88 85 speedo 87-88 except for CA are speed density 90 on no tilt 4 cyl 85 speedo and 6k tach 4cyl smaller brakes gt fogight switch 87-89 flat bottom gauge cluster LX do have fog light wiring just no lights or front bar LX have 10 hole wheels GT either turbine or ony wheels Engine wiring harnesses different from 87-88, 89-90, 91 to 93 Convert rear inner panels different 87-89 and 90-93 Side mirrors different on coupes than coverts 87-88 than 90-93
Significant things you missed: 91-93 have different front fender wheel arches to fit the larger 16” wheels, 93 motors got hypereutectic cast pistons (including cobras) vs previous forged pistons - a lot of blown up supercharged 93s, 87-88 cars had a hotter cam and 3-5 more bhp, interior molds were changed for the dash/switches with darker black plastics as part of the cost reduction to offset the airbag cost, dash knee pads added in 90+, 25 year dash pony logo added in 89.
I used the knee bolsters.... I was 15/16 at the time so I wanted to use all the “tech” always adjusted the knee bolsters, tightened up the thigh bolsters, and adjusted that sweet airbag lumbar when dad would let me borrow/drive the 5.0 👍😂
I have a 91 LX 5.0 convertible and verify the facts stated in this video are all true regarding my car. From interior to exterior side moldings. For some strange reason though you failed to mention the luggage racks and what models got them lol.
Great Video But You left out One of the Most important Things of us Mustang lovers THE SSP POLICE FOX BODY MUSTANG'S SHAME!! SHAME!! Just Kidding... The SSP Brings certified calibration 160mph Speedometer,High voltage 130 amp alternator,heavy duty good year radiator hoses,transmission oil cooler on the automatic,heavy duty Suspension etc. Also The SSP STANG HAD ONE KEY FOR EVERYTHING, TRUNK & IGNITION Also Pop open trunk Release in glove box.. Tiny tip for 90 running horse 25 year on dash Also late 92 to 93 had different pistons..Good video I have 2,1990 SSP Mustangs & 1,1992 limited edition, also a 90 7up edition that I'm converting from auto to a Stick.. keep Posting👍
Funny feeling when 30 years later, a legendary car is almost forgotten in pop culture. When these cars were 10 years old people were removing lx badges because people were already confused as to what was what. Bought mine at that time with badges removed and it caused people to at least ask if it was “a real 5.0”...lol. This year I bought the lx badge and put it back on and instantly someone said “your car is nice, too bad it’s not a GT”... 🙄
1st Car I'd get is a hatchback gt in Magnesium brown(dark grey/brown clove metallic) w/ titanium ground effects. Emerald Green GT w/titanium effects will do just fine too. Dark Titanium with real Titanium effects are sweet too. Dream Cars. Couple streets down from my house there's a 92 green gt. It will be mine
differences in interior from 1987-89 "in stock form". 1987 - Has a 88mph speedo 1988 - Has a 140mph speedo 1989 - Has an 25th Anniversary Plaque (mid year) on the dash at the passenger side. Hope this helps...
We used to call the map lights dope scopes. I'm typing half way through the video, but there was something with the fenders that was different through the years
I am a Chevrolet man, I own a 1987 LX Mustang cause, even I can admit, you cannot beat them! I was going to put all GM running gear in it but instead build a solid roller cam 347 with a C4, 4000 stall converter, built the 8.8 with 4:10's in it, it is a complete animal show on the street! Everytime I take it out, there will be someone up my ass but when I am driving, shift it in second and it is spinning the tires and they can't catch up, they let off pretty fast.
nice video. as someone else pointed out, the front fender spats are different 91-93. although not a visual, the forged pistons went away in 92 i believe. 92-93 lx cars have body color trim.
A little tidbit I bought my Gt new in 1987 and I saw in a magazine article back in the day that Ford was going to put lights under the dash to light up the floorboards. They decided not to but some came from the factory with the light sockets. Sure enough mine had them and I put the bulbs in and they worked. Lit up both floorboard when you opened the door.
FYI fun fact. The Map light was replaced in 1992, but 1991 models built after August 12th had there map lights removed and replaced with the same dual functioning headlight/map light as the 1992 model. By the way the pull out bolster was deleted in 1992 not 1991. I own a 1991 with the pull out bolster. The pull out bolster delete is also referenced in the 1979-93 Mustang 5.0 Technical Reference & Performance Handbook as being 1992.
The ash tray cover never stays shut . They had a flashlight in the 80s near the rearview mirror . The Canadian build gt mustang said gt / cobra on the title for reason.
In 1987, the LX 5.0 was still the base seats. Funny, but in 1990 you could option any LX, 4 cylinder included, the GT "Appearance Package" even on a notch. 2.3 with GT Ground Effects. Looked hilarious
Now caleb on the 1982 GT it didnt have the full wraparound body effects kit on it. It just had the front and rear bumpers covers that told it was a GT.
Sgree with 9 out of 10... But I have to say, I actually always liked the look of a notch with GT ground effects. The GT convertible is basically similiar look.
I had a '90 5.0 LX hatch with a moonroof and custom ground effects. I liked the fact it didn't look like the common GT of the day and was just as fast :) I have to admit though, I think my 2015 Mustang GT is a much better car but I miss the '90 foxbody
@7:14 - I don't believe there was an option for the 'GT' highback headrest seats in '87-88' hatchbacks. All LX's, be it a 4 cyl. or 5.0, during this time period had the standard 4 cyl. seats. Maybe I'm wrong? Awesome video and I'm happy I subscribed to your channel!
No my dad had an 88 LX 5.0 hatch with a sunroof and full “GT” interior... as a matter of fact I have never personally ridden in an LX 5.0 with the 4cyl seats crank windows etc.
Almost correct! The 87-88 5.0 LX all had the base 4cyl seats. The hatch and vert got the GT seats in 89. The coupe followed and got the GT seats in 91. This is straight from the dealer brochures.
@@bigretardhalo did your dad buy it new? If so, it was a "one of a kind" 88 or it was actually a 89 since Ford did not put the GT seats in any of the LX cars until 89. Or maybe a GT interior was swapped into it at some point. I bought my 87 5.0 LX new 3/31/87 and it had the same interior as the 4cyl cars and the only option it had after the 5.0 package was AC. I changed it to a full power GT interior around 1997, and then swapped it to a full black interior in 2002.
Thomas Bailey - nope he never bought new it was a couple years old used, he always liked to let the other guy eat the depreciation. Pretty sure it was an 88 but maybe I’m remembering wrong because I don’t remember it having a 25th anniversary pony on the dash, he bought it used in late 89 or early 90 because I didn’t have a license yet and he got rid of it right as I got my license because I never drove it much. Maybe my memory deceives me I just could have sworn the convertible was the only 89 he had I do remember how cool I thought the 25th anniversary badge was... he only had three and they were all 88 - 89 cars because he didn’t want to give up the tilt wheel 😂 thought it was two 88’s and an 89 maybe I’m wrong I’ll have to ask him. Edit for clarity they weren’t all LX’s he had an LX 5.0 hatch sunroof car auto (that my hazy memory swears was an 88 😂 but based on this convo was probably an 89) an 88 GT five speed that I know was an 88 because I found the car and convinced him to buy it when I was 17 (I had some fun in that car 👍) then an 89 LX 5.0 vert auto that he really babied and was gonna keep for a long time (he normally only keeps cars a year or two) but unfortunately a teenage girl crested a hill on the wrong side of the road while reaching for a cd that fell on the floor and put an early end to the life of that one... luckily no people were hurt in the murder of that 5.0.
loved this video man! made me realize a few things I didn't know. I didn't know I a sought after interior for one. I thought it was basic but thank you for the insight and keep up the great work!
I have a light blue 92 mustang notchback lx 5.0. I got it back in 1998 for my first car in high school. It is still original no motor work only put 373 gears. I am thinking about doing 303 or 306 motor upgrade
I had a 90 conv GT and always wanted a console 🤷🏼♂️ never knew most didn’t have one. And the 8.8 that was in my car was probably the best one ever because well... oh boy 😏 I also worked at a tire shop. Always a good slayer combo!! Damn well miss mine. 🤔 I really like the coyotes in the fox body though, must be a blast to drive!
One of the best kept secrets isn't the difference between LX/GT. It's that many components of fox chassis and dash were the same size as other Ford cars. I took a crashed 86 GT and swaped it into a 79 Futura. Dash gauges, engine and trans... made the car Ford should have produced.
The way power was calculated wasn’t changed for 93. The camshaft installed in the 5.0 HO was changed slightly throughout the years starting in 1989. Those changes effected the horsepower output of the engine which culminated in a lower horsepower rating for the 1993 model year.
Hey anyone wanting to know if its factory sun roof or moon they will have a drain hole that drains to the hatch because you can't get a notch with moon roof love the knowledge man didn't teach me anything new just takes me back. Ty
There was a US Federal law limiting speedometers to read only up to 85 mph. That restriction was lifted. In my 79 Mustang Indy Pace Car 5.0 4 speed the speedometer needle didn’t have anything physical keeping it from turning 360 degrees from 0. I had it up to 115 twice. First owner said that it could go 130 mph.
I thought they only made one fox body 1986 t top 5.0 5 speed son give it to me 15 years ago and has 99000 miles and still all original and runs great , Mopar man but this little guy will still Go. They will grow on you.👍
I own a 91 2.3 LX Hatchback. after watching this video, can confirm Previous owner did a good freaking job on doing a trim and interior swap to the GT. If you didn't confirm the VIN number, you would honestly think someone swapped a 2.3 onto a GT
I had a 93' GT with the "much coveted" black interior, but it's seats also had the knee bolsters, so there must have been exceptions. My power window controls were on the console, as opposed to the car shown with them on the doors.
"Sport Seats" were 87-89 only. Having the tallest of seats, movable large headrests and thigh bolsters. Also GT's are the only fox body that have "cheese grater" rear lights. I think 87-89 are the best years. Have had many foxes 82 Capri 84 6cyl vert 91 Notch 88 GT vert 89 GT hatch current and favorite of all. (have a vid on my channel)
Had a 92 lx 4 banger that looked like a gt..it was funny for a bit when people would pipe you up then the expression on there face when they heard the old 2300 rev like a banshee..you know they are thinking something don't sound right
LX vert gang 👌🔥🧢💯my first car ever still own it
Same man just got mines recently
I love the channel. Don't forget that the four cylinder and V8 LX's cars from 87 to 89 had the 85 mph speedometer. But, in 89, the 89 GT's had the 140 speedometer. 87 to 88 GT'S had the 85 mph speedometer in them. 90 to 93 V8 cars had the 140 mph speedometer in them. I've learned a lot of history of the Fox Bodies, and I hope to found one real soon.
Not true. 1989 LX 5.0 has the 140 speedometer.
The 1982 GT HAD A 85 MPH SPEEDO IN IT ALSO.
I have had both hatchbacks and notchbacks and done hundreds of runs at the track I feel like that hatchbacks hookup a lot better for launching the car off the line. The notchbacks they are of course lighter so a little bit faster but if you are spinning the tires because you can't hookup it doesn't really matter if you are that slight bit faster. I have had identical mods on both my cars and the hatch was slightly better 60 foot with mickey thompson ET streets on both cars. I feel like the overall package of having a hatchback makes it more desirable in my opinion.
I noticed something you do but I don't think you've talked about. The trick of putting your thumb on & pressing the outer door handle to help keep it from breaking.
Have to look into this, not sure what you mean
Very Important
Haha! It’s the Fox Body way!
The 90 dashboard running pony also had 25th Anniversary in it.
And the 89s
I had one. Black on black...
Yep, 87 and 88 didn't have the dash emblem as far as I can remember.
The 25th anniversary pony on the dash started in April of 1989 , it had a running pony with the writing “ 25th anniversary “ it lasted for approx 7 months , then every mustang until the end of production had the running pony with out the script.
I have a ‘90 LX Hatch which is a 25th Anniversary car. Made 12/12/1989
87-89 = Tilt Steering Wheel
90-93 = Non Tilt Steering Wheel
Big option for a taller driver.
Got a 93 2 years ago. I thought Interesting that doesn't have tilt, when earlier models do.
Airbag started in 90, so it must have something to do with that.
A 1979 to 1986 foxbody differences episode is needed
My favorite car was seeing a 1990 hatch. I love them and was one of my fav 5.0 hatches. With ground effects lol. As I’m typing this I see you talking about my fav body style
87 hatch
Bought my 90 GT hatch new in 89. Still have it. 67K
Great video of information, It takes me back,had a 85 GT,and later had a 92 5.0 LX with the factory sunroof,really loved that car.Seeing all these foxbodies takes me back, always love all your videos,Keep up the great work.
The 91-93 have a larger front fender opening to fit the 16" pony wheels
yes. i was gonna say the front fender spats are different
you skipped the 4 eyes!
I cant wait to start my project car. My mother own 89 5.0 LX notchback, it what I learn to drive in. She still has the car and I am getting off her. In the late 90 she wrecked it, so I'm rebuilding as a Saleen Clone.
Bought myself a brand new 90 LX 5.0 Hatchback when I was 19 years old after saving up for 3 years plowing snow. 13.4k. off the lot. Still wish I had it. Your commentary is spot on showing the differences on years, models etc.
I remember back in the day nearly everyone wanted a GT and the notchbacks were almost the red headed step child. A lot of people regarded the notchback as a fairmont and ugly. It was the very late 90’s - early 00’s the notchbacks became highly sought after. Good luck Finding a clean 5.0 notchback now that’s as reasonably priced as a comparable condition GT.
I miss my first Mustang GT 5.0!!! I'm on PONY #5 now... 87' GT 5.0 automatic, 89' 4 Cylinder (so good on fuel), 02' GT 4.6 stick shift, 05' 6 Cylinder, and now an 01 GT 4.6 convertible (stick shift)...
The map/dome lights changed in 92. The scope light and basic dome light was thru 91. The combination light (map and dome) was for 92 and 93. Fun fact - those later lights have the same screw pattern as the slimmer dome/map light in some of Ford’s other cars like the SN95 Mustang and the 97-03 F150.
The Map light was replaced in 1992, but 1991 models built after the first week of August had there map lights removed and replaced with the same dual functioning headlight/map light as the 1992 model. Most Foxbody mustangs built around August were a mix of parts from the current year and the new coming year.
"Still the best channel out there,keep the killer content coming"
Thanks for this video! I live in Norway, and just bought back the 1987 LX 2,5 my mother imported from the us. Not a big fox body community here so I try to learn what I can from UA-cam. The previous owners kept it in a good condition, and installed a thunderbird engine and a turbo after the original motor was beyond salvage. Due to tax laws they did not upgrade the engine to something more powerful. But I’m trying to learn how to make the best out of it! 😊
The year was 1993 and I had an ‘86 LX Vert, I was able to get my hands on ‘93 GT bumpers and ground effects so I swapped out the old 4 eyes, at the time she looked great. Fast forward 27 years and 1, I wish I still had that car and 2, I was stupid for getting rid of those now desirable 4 eyes 😎
lmao 🤣
Cheers, picked up a 93 GT convertible white with gray interior 99% stock. My graduation year, always wanted one. Beautiful shape. But need to learn more about it then it's a beautiful car by looking at it. Some good info here.. pretty novice at cars
I have a LX hatch back and I love the car. It was my grandpas and the story behind it was it was a Oklahoma state trooper patrol car that was rolled and fixed by a little dealer ship. Pretty much making it look like a factory car made for civilians. I’m just now starting to make and save money and I’m getting ready to order the clutch quadrant and fuel system and make it run and drive it as I fix it up as I go. It’s kinda rough but it’s nothing I’m afraid of fixing on my own
I went from a red 1988 GT, to a white 1988 LX hatch back then finally settled on my current blue 1989 LX notch back. I couldn't be happier.
Minor detail you missed is the 1990-93 cars say AIR BAG on the vin plate under the front wind shield
Great video! Did anybody notice the Motorsport Speedo at 8:31? I feel old with my first car I purchased new still in the garage, an 89 LX 5.0!
Sure did! I have one on my '88. Installed it the 1st month I had the car.
Don’t forget the 91 & up front fenders were bigger wheel wells cuz of the the 16” pony wheels & 17” cobra wheels
SVOs and saleens had 5 lug, as well as some of the other super rare foxes like the ssac. 86 was the first year with fuel injection but was still a 4 eye so 86-88 were speed density. Telling the difference between the 4 eye mustang's gt/lx is a whole different episode. Also the front fenders were different sizes to accommodate the larger 16/17" wheels when they went to them
Your information is good. I just want to add one thing. In California 88 Mustang 5.0's were mass air cars.
The 86 also had 15 less hp than the 85
@@Poohdaddymagic - Horsepower ratings for 82 and up Mustang GT's.
82 GT - 157 hp
83-84 GT - 175 hp
85 GT - 210 hp
86 GT - 200 hp
87-92 GT - 225 hp
93 GT - 205 hp (Ford change the hp rating but made no changes to the car)
@@281cobracar7 The HP ratings you listed for model years 1982 through 1985 GTs are only for the 5.0L carbureted versions.
In model year 1982 the 4.2L engine was available in the GT, and in Canada only the 2.3T (turbo) engine was available in the GT.
in model years 1983 and 1984 the 2.3T engine was available in the (Turbo) GT.
In model years 1984 and 1985 the 5.0L engine in the GT could be carbureted or fuel-injected (CFI).
In model year 1985 the fuel-injected 5.0L in the GT had one HP rating early in the model year, before the pseudo-dual exhaust system from the 1985 5.0L carb model was available with the CFI engine, and then increased 15 HP with the addition of the 4V exhaust system.
82 GT (5.0L) - 157 hp
82 GT (4.2L) - 111 hp
82 GT (2.3T) - unknown hp
83 GT (5.0L) - 175 hp
83 Turbo GT (2.3T) - 145 hp
84 GT (5.0L/CFI) - 165 hp
84 GT (5.0L/4V) - 175 hp
84 Turbo GT (2.3T) - 145 hp
85 GT (early 5.0L/CFI) - 165 hp
85 GT (late 5.0L CFI) - 180 hp
85 GT (5.0L/4V) - 210 hp
I have an 1986 foxbody GT convertible and its the newer style not the four eye,
tail lights- gt have cheese grater
87-88 85 speedo
87-88 except for CA are speed density
90 on no tilt
4 cyl 85 speedo and 6k tach
4cyl smaller brakes
gt fogight switch
87-89 flat bottom gauge cluster
LX do have fog light wiring just no lights or front bar
LX have 10 hole wheels GT either turbine or ony wheels
Engine wiring harnesses different from 87-88, 89-90, 91 to 93
Convert rear inner panels different 87-89 and 90-93
Side mirrors different on coupes than coverts 87-88 than 90-93
I owned a lot of Camaros but I honestly been wanting a Mustang just don't know where to start if I went through with buying one
I bought a 1990 lx new, still driving it today
Significant things you missed: 91-93 have different front fender wheel arches to fit the larger 16” wheels, 93 motors got hypereutectic cast pistons (including cobras) vs previous forged pistons - a lot of blown up supercharged 93s, 87-88 cars had a hotter cam and 3-5 more bhp, interior molds were changed for the dash/switches with darker black plastics as part of the cost reduction to offset the airbag cost, dash knee pads added in 90+, 25 year dash pony logo added in 89.
The reason guys switched from the cheese graters to the LX tails was the 93 cobra 🐍👍
Thanks for the info, I'm a 94-04 guy and always wanted to know more about the Foxes.
I think I have the best of both worlds. My 85 gt has the lx ground effects but it's still a GT. Oh yeah can't forget it's coyote swapped too!!
I used the knee bolsters.... I was 15/16 at the time so I wanted to use all the “tech” always adjusted the knee bolsters, tightened up the thigh bolsters, and adjusted that sweet airbag lumbar when dad would let me borrow/drive the 5.0 👍😂
I have a 91 LX 5.0 convertible and verify the facts stated in this video are all true regarding my car. From interior to exterior side moldings. For some strange reason though you failed to mention the luggage racks and what models got them lol.
86 and up verts got the rack. Had to remove mine to put the Saleen wing on.
verts got the rack in 86 so they could mount third brake light.
I didn’t have my 89 off the lot 15 min and my first race was on... 😁 good ol days
Great Video But You left out
One of the Most important Things of us Mustang lovers
THE SSP POLICE FOX BODY MUSTANG'S
SHAME!! SHAME!!
Just Kidding...
The SSP
Brings certified calibration 160mph Speedometer,High voltage 130 amp alternator,heavy duty good year radiator hoses,transmission oil cooler on the automatic,heavy duty Suspension etc. Also The SSP STANG HAD ONE KEY FOR EVERYTHING,
TRUNK & IGNITION
Also Pop open trunk Release in glove box..
Tiny tip for 90 running horse 25 year on dash
Also late 92 to 93 had different pistons..Good video I have 2,1990 SSP Mustangs & 1,1992 limited edition, also a 90 7up edition that I'm converting from auto to a Stick..
keep Posting👍
I definitely I know what I want now. A 92-93 GT or LX hatch.
Funny feeling when 30 years later, a legendary car is almost forgotten in pop culture. When these cars were 10 years old people were removing lx badges because people were already confused as to what was what. Bought mine at that time with badges removed and it caused people to at least ask if it was “a real 5.0”...lol. This year I bought the lx badge and put it back on and instantly someone said “your car is nice, too bad it’s not a GT”... 🙄
1st Car I'd get is a hatchback gt in Magnesium brown(dark grey/brown clove metallic) w/ titanium ground effects. Emerald Green GT w/titanium effects will do just fine too. Dark Titanium with real Titanium effects are sweet too. Dream Cars. Couple streets down from my house there's a 92 green gt. It will be mine
differences in interior from 1987-89 "in stock form".
1987 - Has a 88mph speedo
1988 - Has a 140mph speedo
1989 - Has an 25th Anniversary Plaque (mid year) on the dash at the passenger side.
Hope this helps...
We used to call the map lights dope scopes. I'm typing half way through the video, but there was something with the fenders that was different through the years
I am a Chevrolet man, I own a 1987 LX Mustang cause, even I can admit, you cannot beat them! I was going to put all GM running gear in it but instead build a solid roller cam 347 with a C4, 4000 stall converter, built the 8.8 with 4:10's in it, it is a complete animal show on the street! Everytime I take it out, there will be someone up my ass but when I am driving, shift it in second and it is spinning the tires and they can't catch up, they let off pretty fast.
Love the four eye.
85 and 86 gt had the nicest front seats
I actually learned something i always wanted to learn, thank you so much man.
nice video. as someone else pointed out, the front fender spats are different 91-93. although not a visual, the forged pistons went away in 92 i believe. 92-93 lx cars have body color trim.
A little tidbit I bought my Gt new in 1987 and I saw in a magazine article back in the day that Ford was going to put lights under the dash to light up the floorboards. They decided not to but some came from the factory with the light sockets. Sure enough mine had them and I put the bulbs in and they worked. Lit up both floorboard when you opened the door.
Clearly the GT convertible was derived from the notched back. Great Video btw🐎
FYI fun fact.
The Map light was replaced in 1992, but 1991 models built after August 12th had there map lights removed and replaced with the same dual functioning headlight/map light as the 1992 model.
By the way the pull out bolster was deleted in 1992 not 1991. I own a 1991 with the pull out bolster. The pull out bolster delete is also referenced in the 1979-93 Mustang 5.0 Technical Reference & Performance Handbook as being 1992.
You can put 87-93 quarter glass in 79-86 you have to drill an extra hole for one of the glass studs to go through but fits right in after that
The panel under the steering column is different as well. Flat from 87-89. 90 panel had a bump out
The ash tray cover never stays shut . They had a flashlight in the 80s near the rearview mirror . The Canadian build gt mustang said gt / cobra on the title for reason.
In 1987, the LX 5.0 was still the base seats. Funny, but in 1990 you could option any LX, 4 cylinder included, the GT "Appearance Package" even on a notch. 2.3 with GT Ground Effects. Looked hilarious
Great info, however, it wasn’t until 1989 that the premium/GT interior was available on an LX with the V8.
Good information to share with new owners and long time owners as well!
My first car was an 88 LX 5.0 coupe. Great video! Cheers from Canada.
Great info here, 1 problem i see is that in most cases some jerk has switched out everything 🤫 to point they cant ever identify the body
Good stuff. Always learning through you guys!
Now caleb on the 1982 GT it didnt have the full wraparound body effects kit on it. It just had the front and rear bumpers covers that told it was a GT.
Sgree with 9 out of 10...
But I have to say, I actually always liked the look of a notch with GT ground effects. The GT convertible is basically similiar look.
I had a '90 5.0 LX hatch with a moonroof and custom ground effects. I liked the fact it didn't look like the common GT of the day and was just as fast :) I have to admit though, I think my 2015 Mustang GT is a much better car but I miss the '90 foxbody
I consider myself pretty in tune with fox body cars, but this is great content!
Ps... I still to this day love me some chrome ponys. 🥰
@7:14 - I don't believe there was an option for the 'GT' highback headrest seats in '87-88' hatchbacks. All LX's, be it a 4 cyl. or 5.0, during this time period had the standard 4 cyl. seats. Maybe I'm wrong? Awesome video and I'm happy I subscribed to your channel!
No my dad had an 88 LX 5.0 hatch with a sunroof and full “GT” interior... as a matter of fact I have never personally ridden in an LX 5.0 with the 4cyl seats crank windows etc.
Almost correct! The 87-88 5.0 LX all had the base 4cyl seats. The hatch and vert got the GT seats in 89. The coupe followed and got the GT seats in 91. This is straight from the dealer brochures.
@@bigretardhalo did your dad buy it new? If so, it was a "one of a kind" 88 or it was actually a 89 since Ford did not put the GT seats in any of the LX cars until 89. Or maybe a GT interior was swapped into it at some point. I bought my 87 5.0 LX new 3/31/87 and it had the same interior as the 4cyl cars and the only option it had after the 5.0 package was AC. I changed it to a full power GT interior around 1997, and then swapped it to a full black interior in 2002.
Thomas Bailey - nope he never bought new it was a couple years old used, he always liked to let the other guy eat the depreciation. Pretty sure it was an 88 but maybe I’m remembering wrong because I don’t remember it having a 25th anniversary pony on the dash, he bought it used in late 89 or early 90 because I didn’t have a license yet and he got rid of it right as I got my license because I never drove it much. Maybe my memory deceives me I just could have sworn the convertible was the only 89 he had I do remember how cool I thought the 25th anniversary badge was... he only had three and they were all 88 - 89 cars because he didn’t want to give up the tilt wheel 😂 thought it was two 88’s and an 89 maybe I’m wrong I’ll have to ask him.
Edit for clarity they weren’t all LX’s he had an LX 5.0 hatch sunroof car auto (that my hazy memory swears was an 88 😂 but based on this convo was probably an 89) an 88 GT five speed that I know was an 88 because I found the car and convinced him to buy it when I was 17 (I had some fun in that car 👍) then an 89 LX 5.0 vert auto that he really babied and was gonna keep for a long time (he normally only keeps cars a year or two) but unfortunately a teenage girl crested a hill on the wrong side of the road while reaching for a cd that fell on the floor and put an early end to the life of that one... luckily no people were hurt in the murder of that 5.0.
I believe the "sport seats" were 87-89 only.
loved this video man! made me realize a few things I didn't know. I didn't know I a sought after interior for one. I thought it was basic but thank you for the insight and keep up the great work!
89 was last year for 85 mph speedometer. 88 last year for t-tops. 93 had different cam and hypereutectic pistons.
Awesome. I'm new to fox body. I just got a lx convertible 4 cylinder. This was so interesting and helpful to know the difference. Thanks.
I have a light blue 92 mustang notchback lx 5.0. I got it back in 1998 for my first car in high school. It is still original no motor work only put 373 gears. I am thinking about doing 303 or 306 motor upgrade
Thank you I actually learned something about the seats.
Appreciate the history lesson, always interesting
I had a 90 conv GT and always wanted a console 🤷🏼♂️ never knew most didn’t have one. And the 8.8 that was in my car was probably the best one ever because well... oh boy 😏 I also worked at a tire shop. Always a good slayer combo!! Damn well miss mine. 🤔 I really like the coyotes in the fox body though, must be a blast to drive!
One of the best kept secrets isn't the difference between LX/GT. It's that many components of fox chassis and dash were the same size as other Ford cars. I took a crashed 86 GT and swaped it into a 79 Futura. Dash gauges, engine and trans... made the car Ford should have produced.
I have a 91 gt vert thank you for your info. Everything matched. I do have the 5 speed!
GREAT JOB on this Video Caleb. Came Strong on this one.
awesome 👌🏻👌🏻 a video of one year only feature, options would be really cool too
My ultimate favorite is my dads 93 notchback. My second favorite is AV Boys 89 Hatchback that my dad sold to them.
The way power was calculated wasn’t changed for 93. The camshaft installed in the 5.0 HO was changed slightly throughout the years starting in 1989. Those changes effected the horsepower output of the engine which culminated in a lower horsepower rating for the 1993 model year.
The 87-89 seats have a taller back than the other GT and Sport Seats.
A SSP (Special Service Package), usually in notchback form in any of those years is especially desirable.
I just picked up a 5l 5speed 89 hatchback lx off my grandma for free, the drivers floor pan is rusted out but it’s an easy fix!
Thanks professor
The more modern dome light came in 1992. The swiveling map light between the sun visors last year was 1992. Just helping you out there buddy.
Back in the day all the granny’s had the Notchbacks to , lol .
Grocery getters
No joke I use to be able to look at key thing and tell what year it was by the features and never look at the ID sticker
Same, lots of clues to identify what year if they are mostly stock.
Thanks for the information I'd love to find a 90 through 93 LX 5.0
Awesome I love the foxbodys I have had 2 foxbodys l have a 2004 gt mustang 5 speed with 3 custom tunes
God dang who pain that stunning LX coupe I need someone to paint mine
Hey anyone wanting to know if its factory sun roof or moon they will have a drain hole that drains to the hatch because you can't get a notch with moon roof love the knowledge man didn't teach me anything new just takes me back. Ty
19:15 kinda in 1993 they had weaker pistons which i know is not visible but should be mentioned
Thats exactly correct .
The 92' V8 engine had forged pistons. The 93 V8 engine had hypereutectic pistons.
'87-'88, the Speedo was rated to 85 mph and '89-'93 had the 140 mph Speedo.
87 started at 5mph 88 started at 0mph also had a pin that stopped it
There was a US Federal law limiting speedometers to read only up to 85 mph. That restriction was lifted. In my 79 Mustang Indy Pace Car 5.0 4 speed the speedometer needle didn’t have anything physical keeping it from turning 360 degrees from 0. I had it up to 115 twice. First owner said that it could go 130 mph.
I thought they only made one fox body 1986 t top 5.0 5 speed son give it to me 15 years ago and has 99000 miles and still all original and runs great , Mopar man but this little guy will still Go. They will grow on you.👍
I'm a 85 86 guy. I got 86 my brother got 85.
I own a 91 2.3 LX Hatchback.
after watching this video, can confirm Previous owner did a good freaking job on doing a trim and interior swap to the GT. If you didn't confirm the VIN number, you would honestly think someone swapped a 2.3 onto a GT
you got a picture?
Impossible to find a clean foxbody here in Toronto 😞😞
I got one five years ago in Windsor On.
Have to get one shipped from the lower 48.
Look on KIjiji Autos, several on there...not cheap though. thats where I found my 88 coupe.
I had a 93' GT with the "much coveted" black interior, but it's seats also had the knee bolsters, so there must have been exceptions. My power window controls were on the console, as opposed to the car shown with them on the doors.
Anniversary pony on the dash that split the difference
I have a ‘90 and ‘91 LX Hatch. My ‘90 has base seats and my ‘91 has the sport seats.
🐎The SVO defined the 87’s and beyond
"Sport Seats" were 87-89 only.
Having the tallest of seats, movable large headrests and thigh bolsters.
Also GT's are the only fox body that have "cheese grater" rear lights.
I think 87-89 are the best years.
Have had many foxes
82 Capri
84 6cyl vert
91 Notch
88 GT vert
89 GT hatch current and favorite of all.
(have a vid on my channel)
Had a 92 lx 4 banger that looked like a gt..it was funny for a bit when people would pipe you up then the expression on there face when they heard the old 2300 rev like a banshee..you know they are thinking something don't sound right
what a great explanation of fox body mustang. I have a 1985 coupe in the restoration process. It'll be a ripper :)
Very good !! I love the fox body's !! I learned a little about the interiors ! Burn rubber !!