@@Chaos-._ to find solace in “upsetting the opposition” is why we as a country are in a political wasteland as is. Everyone is so fixated on making content/comments that prove the other side wrong, there is very little being done to understand the valid points each person has on any subject. Somewhere in the middle of all this feuding, real life is happening and I just feel that people have become enamored on just pissing off everyone who they have decided they just don’t like. And to be clear I’m not a fan of anyone whole heartily, even my wife, who I love dearly and more than anything have disagreements about how we see the world. Divide and conquer is real. There’s value in everything. Just like me watching this video. I do not know the creator, never seen a video of theirs and I feel like I was able to gain a perspective that I otherwise would not be privileged to, because it was well done and thought out. I hope that helps clarify my point. Peace
@@OhItsTeddy Historically people find joy in upsetting Nazis and other types of bigots. This is in that same category. This isn't a left verses right issue, this is a "haha bigot mad" issue.
I loved the Barbie Movie but only as a fun consumer product. It wasn't as deep as it tried to be and it's so corny for Mattel to basically "apologize" for how they have been damaging in the past. It felt like one big commercial for a dying IP.
It’s crazy because in the 80’s and 90’s cartoons were made to sell dolls/action figures but Barbie was never made to be that kind of IP since her inception was in the 60’s. It took Mattel this many years to figure out what other IPs like Voltron, GI Joe and My Little Pony did would work for Barbie, too. 😂
@@VictoryXR that's not entirely true. There are countless animated Barbie movies that have been successful as a TV movie and DVD product. I have a feeling they decided to do this because Barbies are truly falling out of fashion with little girls.
I didn't take the ending trying to be happy or solve anything. In my interpretation Barbie becoming human was an analogy to "growing up" in the imperfect real world. Barbie in itself is like this "imperfect" feminism icon that, through the ages had a flawed but sometimes fundamental purpose. Maybe it will get better, maybe it wont, but women will keep living and sharing memories and passing on what they think it's important. It's like the ending to Metal Gear Solid 2. Loved the movie by the way.
@@ajemison3 I didn't feel sad, it was a great character arc, about finding our own purpose on the world and dealing with imperfections, knowing we'll make mistakes and keep going.
You can't even find any nuanced criticisms of the film without them being centered around conservatism, and liberals are using that as a way to hate on leftism even more! And this has been said to death, but you can enjoy things while simultenously critisizing them.
well I am a survivor of police brutality and I asked them to investigate themselves and arrest officers that tased me or raped me. (I was a human trafficking slavery survivor with seizures and PTSD that the police preferred to exploit rather than rescue.) They refused to investigate themselves. They referred to a brotherhood in which any police officer or FBI agent who commits a crime gets protected by the other FBI agents or officers. So none of them ever go to jail for raping a rape victim or groping a rape victim or threatening to shoot a rape victim or tasing a rape victim or beating a rape victim and dislocating her arms because she is only 6 years old and they get moved from their sockets pretty easily when they throw you on the floor and pull your arms behind your back. I had to run into walls to push my arms back into their sockets and everyone called me retarded. I just wanted to be able to move my arms and not have them hanging limp at my sides. This happened in Idaho and Wisconsin. Because of the brotherhood none of them ever find anything wrong and none of them admit to the police brutality that they do. They also abandon rape victims to die by suicide if you say you're suicidal rather than rescue them, or they curse, shout, victim blame, call you names, and just do all manner of psychological and emotional abuse. Then they abandon you to live in an abusive home and they then tell you they will spread rumors and lies about you being a prostitute to make themselves look good to the police chief or other officers or other men and try to get prostitution legalized and tell you they like to rape prostitutes. Sometime instead of leaving, they then get frustrated when you try to stop them from that type of emotional abuse and then they tase you, causing you a seizure. So you are forced to have a seizure and potentially die from it because you've told them you are suicidal due to being abused and preferring death over abuse. Then after the seizure is over they ask you if they can tase you again because, for them, they say it's an experiment. They don't care if they hurt or kill you. I managed to convince the tasing officer to go away after the one seizure he gave me and not tase me until I was dead, but it was hard. It's also hard to make them leave when they have their hands on their guns and they are screaming at you that they want to shoot you in the head or face.
Watch any right wing conservatives review of this movie, they are definitely UPSET. And in the end they literally acknowledge that maybe one day Kens will have the same amount of rights as women in the real world. You AREN'T meant to feel like Barbieland is good at the end - it's a reflection of our own world and the fact that we don't have full equality. Which is reinforced by the fact that in the end Gloria doesn't get a promotion, they just use her idea for profit - which is probably the best dig at Mattel Greta could get in the movie lmao
Yeah, almost like “if you think the kens deserve to be equals, then look at how women are treated in our world. Once women are equal here, men will be equal there”
@@jacquephine1926 It doesn't upsets "the patriarchy" in the sense that it does a great critique, but in the sense that the mere abstract association of the movie with feminism, triggered them hard. It falls in line with other media in reactionary politics where reactionaries want to screen "gone woke" etc. You have to remember that conservatives have zero ability to critique media, so "aesthetically feminist" rather than "actually feminist" is what makes them lose their marbles.
I'm a right-wing conservative, a gay man and I happen to be a massive fan of Barbie. So your argument that ANY right-wing conservatives was upset at this movie is just another idea of the left complaining about labels whilst labelling everyone they possibly can. It was a plastic movie based on a plastic doll I have always loved.
While I agree with you that this movie did not “upset the patriarchy” I do think that Barbieland is a representation of a cis man’s version of a place devoid of patriarchy- that being a matriarchy as represented in the movie. If a world does not have patriarchy then there MUST be some other power conflict present because a world that is truly equal is not fathomable to them. I could be totally wrong but I do think Greta gerwig is a little more self aware and had to be clever with her writing and directing since Mattel was such a big presence in the movie. I think the point is that Barbieland is not a utopia. As you said, it’s the same as reality just with the roles reversed. We sympathize with Ken even though he brought the big bad patriarchy to Barbieland because we saw him actively being a part of an oppressed group. And when we see Barbieland we understand because damn wouldn’t it be nice to run the world for a change? But when you get to know the PEOPLE in the story- you realize Barbieland isn’t any better. And you’d rather feel pain, and grow up, and have the experiences that make us human, just like Barbie did at the end.
I should add also that her films in general look at things through a woman’s perspective and I did feel that Barbie was almost an allegory for the journey of womanhood. I’ll have to write a paper or something lol.
I very much liked this movie and did cry at multiple parts; but, I agree with you completely it was very much an introduction to feminist theory and the end left much to be desired. I also thought they were going to make the mom ceo and was disappointed when they didn’t.
Oddly enough, Gloria not ending up as CEO kinda works for me? It furthers the "we're better at hiding the patriarchy now" and "Barbie hasn't fixed anything" points that the movie makes
Robert, regarding your commentary on the ending; they stated in the movie that eventually, the men gained as much rights as women did in the real world. It didn’t suddenly become equal because that didn’t happen in the real world. I also think it’s suppose to be poking fun at us by saying they got “as much rights as women did” - meaning, don’t expect them to become equal because we aren’t either.
people have been calling barbie's feminism too simple and cringe but i just think about all the little girls who watched the barbie movie, and this was their first introduction to feminism and the patriarchy so it's okay that it's simple. it's not as revolutionary as some say it is and that's okay.
This movie is an awful introduction to feminism. It’s a great introduction to hypocrisy and misandry but it’s not the movie to show a kid so they learn a good life lesson from it. Quite the opposite.
I can tell you why 'Barbieland' is different from the Mattel that created it, at least from my interpretation - it's interpreted by little girls playing with the toys. Why does Barbie float down the outside of her mansion? Because that's how little girls get her out the dream house, they just hop her out. Little girls' imaginations aren't as encumbered by the realities of the real world as far as patriarchy goes, so of course it's a utopia where Barbie and her friends can do anything. Mattel provides the plastic dolls and accessories but it's the children who flesh out the world in their heads, and even with the more prescrptivist nature of Barbie toys compared to, say, building blocks, you still end up with some seven year olds brandishing Astronaut Barbie and pretending she's a queen in charge of a lizard army. It's also why Barbieland is a rigid matriarchy and doesn't return to a more balanced future - because the girls playing with Barbies by and large aren't all that interested in Kens, don't see themselves in him and don't have accessories marketed for him, because Ken dolls are Barbie accessories in and of themselves rather than a standalone toy range. Lots of little girls never even get a Ken doll, they're just not interested. Once outside influences are removed, the little girls are going to continue imagining a Barbie-centric world. You could say this is a criticism of how patriarchy replicates itself by having so many folks in top spots who cannot empathise with women but that's one's own step to take. This was always going to be a two hour advert, just as the Lego and Marvel movies are, I find it a bit odd that there's so *much* more focus on this downside compared to other movies marketed more at guys, but it is a valid criticism. It was never going to be an in-depth feminist critique of Mattel and their most famous ambassador toy line.
I was so hopeful of Gerwig not to make this as surface level as it ended up being. but it ultimately felt hollow and driven by money. Maybe my expectations were too high so I ended up super disappointed.
For me, the ending was perfect. In the real world, women were never given equal footing after the suffrage movement. We are expected to "work our way up" and a century later still struggle. I think the Barbie ending recognizes that truth at the end, so the Kens are not immediately put on as true equals.
Yeah, in the real world we have this inequality because we have power structures whose purpose is alien to equality, people in power who care little, and the rest of the people who live in ignorance, dissonance, and with a lack of empathy. Supposedly, when the barbies regain power, they should have everything that will allow them to have an egalitarian society, the fact that in the end they intend to maintain matriarchy as a reflection of current society means that either the power they have is false, or that they learned nothing from the inequality they experienced against them... Maybe that's the intention of the ending, idk
You don't think men have to do the same thing? Lmao? Literally, nothing institutional is stopping women from succeeding. Sure there are assholes, but they aren't the institution.
@@BeautifulEarthJa Nah. I was just stating that despite some of the flaws the film has - the colour schemes of the set, the costume designs, and the soundtrack made it an enjoyable film to view in cinemas.
*Spoilers* I was kinda disappointed with the Barbie movie. I was expecting her to be in the real world much longer, probably learning what it's like to be a woman from America's eyes or a day in the life of her daughters at school being tormented by other girls or boys(I don't even remember her name and she barely had any lines). I'm also so confused why people are idolizing Ken since he was written to be very "incel-like" and literally took barbie's home and ruined her life after being rejected. Since when are there 100's of Kens? isn't the joke that no one plays with them? How did Ken overthrow Barbieland so easily? Why did the Barbies find it "easier" to be submissive to Kens if Barbieland was built on matriarchal pillars? I wish they had explained or showed how that happened. It gave the impression that women are gullible and easily impressed, no matter how smart or powerful they are. I also didn't understand how America's speech "deprogrammed" the Barbies since they never experienced any of the situations or feelings she expressed (wasn't that the point of the 1st act?). Also, in the end it didn't even matter what qualifications or jobs or talents the Barbie's had , all they had to do was seduce the Kens and they were able to gain power back by "stealing it" when they weren't looking which isn't a very inspiring message if you ask me. AND EVEN STILL after the Barbies regain control the CEO continued to be condescending to America's character when she stated her "normal barbie" idea. So in the end, what even did she gain from her adventure??
PS. the moment where the narrator broke the 4th wall when Margot Robbie said she felt ugly was uncalled for. You can be stereotypically pretty and still feel ugly and depressed sometimes. IDK what Greta was trying to do there
I'm not with y'all i mean you're probably correct but I'm choosing FUN this time its been ages since there was like an event that got ppl excited and kinda everyone could enjoy i dont remember such a thing since Pokemon Go and it was nice break from the barrage of world ending headlines we got on the daily
honestly i saw the matriarchal system of barbieland as an inverse of the real world, so once the real world reaches "true equality", so will barbieland since in barbieland they did allow at least some position in the judicial branch for the kens, and suggested that in the future they could take a position as a court judge - hinting that equality would be achieved one day. but yeah if my interpretation is wrong then it does feel like a lazy ending like what's the point in showing hypocrisy if you're not going to give a solution
@@teresav8621 There was no inverse. We live in a matriarchy out here as well. Mainstream ociety activity uses every possible opportunity to either slander or make a mockery of men. We had the metoo movement, which effectively took away men's right to due process, using the court of public opinion, the duluth model which effectively does the saame thing, the family courts which skewed in favor of women, the legal system which gives women lighter sentences than men for the same crime, and using men and the patriarchy as a convenient scapegoat for women's crappy life choices. Men are falsely branded as oppressors, and are constantly told that they are trash, that they are not needed, that they are not important, and that they are worthless. The words "strong independent woman", men ain't shit", and "don't need no man" have become the most favorite mantra of modern women. Feminists never consider anything to be equality unless it is exclusively detrimental to men and children, and to the family unit in general. Ironically, there has never been a more compelling case presented for removing women's rights than by the 4 waves of the feminist movement.
"the ultimate goal of the Barbie movie is to make money, and it did that well; it's a box office hit, but it also serves the important purpose of giving the Mattel brand a facelift. With its radiant, diverse cast of beautiful people of all races sizes and gender identity, it makes Mattel look as if they're with the times, even though they've been pushing a standard of beauty and body by a plastic thin blonde white woman for decades."BRILLIANT" which is why I'll wait till it's on Netflix to see it.
you made some really good points. there was an interview where margot says that an all women led barbie land wasnt ideal either. there has a to a mix of both women and men running it
I read through some of the critics reviews after i watched the move and one said, that eventhough it did many things right, it failed to show any alternatives. After reflecting on it i kinda agree to an extend. In a way the Barbieland started and ended as a Matriarchy. The Kens now know that they dont have to be a certain type of Man but they are not equal to the Barbies, atleast structurally. If you create a equivalent Barbieworld but instead of Gender it would be race relations, with Kens representing white People and Poc and Black people being in the position the Barbies are in, that would be just as dissatisfying if it would end the way this movie did. Having white people at the bottom until POC and Black People would be equal in the real world aswell. In a world where anything seems possible, essentially restoring the starting order seems underwhelming, especially when you realize how Kens changes in Barbieworld affected the real world. So not only could they have shown a egalitarian utopia, an alternative way of living, but it could also give a bigger sense of hope. Instead they choose the path of slow reform over time like we do right now. Maybe Greta Gerwig wanted to show more but was constricted due to the Studio, Budget or Mattell. Its still a very good movie.
So many people fall for bait led by one side or another - it's like they have lost all critical thinking to look at the engagement below rage bait content and realise it's working as intended to mislead and waste time. Educating people to understand the roles of marketers, PR firms, social media and business consultancies, and see the workings of a strategy team that promote or tear down individuals and institutions, would mean these toxic pipelines become far less prevenlent, and the people unknowingly mimicing them because they're fooled by the astoturfing would have better understanding of the world around them - even looking into goverment PR schemes like the online agents of NSA/JTRIG that Snowden uncovered or the events in the 70s like COINTELPRO, it would make people more aware of how they are unknowinly manipulated into following a crafted "mass discourse".
Maybe I missed something...though it was decorated, I thought it was dark and adversarial. Could have been lighter and still had an empowering message of acceptance instead of all the man-hating, especially with the power and influence of such a lovely icon. The cast was great, but I think the story was not something for young children.
If you haven't already please please please make a video about tipping! I'm a food service worker and recently I've been getting customers that refuse to tip because "your boss should be the one paying you" or because "all you did was walk to the table" (completely untrue!) and I think if you made a video people would understand that the issues with modern tipping are very nuanced!
To me it seems as one of the best movies in regards to radical politics in recent memory...which is an insult to how bad the environment is around radical politics in movies currently. The words "Barbie move made by Mattel" and "feminist masterpiece" shouldn't be a sentence outside of liberal and centrist circles
most of the actual criticism i heard was about the movie having some radfem understones. that being the joke about an illness that killed a lot of indigenous people and using Barbie having a vagina as sign that shes a real woman. to clarify, radfem is like, basically feminism but bad. theres definitely someone who can explain it better than me but a lot if women kf color have issues with it because of s racism problem. white woman feminism thats the word. there yiu go that's the word. that and it being just very controlling ti women. like infantilizing them constantly especially when it comes to their sexuality.
So...what's up with the Sag-aftra strike in regard to the release of Barbenheimer? I would think we should be boycotting movies all together unti the strikers demands are met.
Seeing movies in theaters actually pays those people on strike, just saying. Streaming doesn't, but they haven't said to boycott anything, and we shouldn't change what we're already doing until they do.
Idk man I found it healing. No, Barbie isn’t going to solve patriarchy. It’s Babies First Feminism. But it’s something. It’s a start. Also, I’m not gonna lie, I find it very sus that all these left-wingers are talking about how problematic Barbie is not even a week after it’s debut. This thing made by women for women? Not good enough.
You gotta watch out for liberal and leftist men. They can kinda talk over women. From all the women I know, barbie was a hit. Movies are never going to be perfect or solve the world's problems.
@@jessicayoung3656 I’ve been seeing these video essays from women, too. Like the movie came out on Friday and the essay’s up on Sunday about how problematic it is. Meanwhile, half the movie is about how women are held to impossible standards and have to be perfect just to be considered a person.
@nervousbreakdown711 OK but you gotta admit that a feminist movie making money ane being number 1 is a good thing right? People criticize the left because it's too negative and doomsday like. I wish people would just appreciate things for once.
@@nervousbreakdown711 Being considered a person means criticism though. The fact that it's "by women for women" shouldn't change that and claiming that it does or should feels extremely shallow.None of the video essays from women I've seen were holding it to impossible standards, they're just critquing it. Not to mention they're generally not critiquing the individual women who worked on the film, they're talking about the film. A product.
Robert, are you sure that that "feminism" Instagram account isn't astroturf, with paid posts, comments, and likes? That is always my first thought now when I see something on social media and the amount of likes or positive/negative comments just doesn't align with common sense or what I observe in the real world.
It did not end the patriarchy, but it was delightful. Much like the Lego movie, it’s a commercial that makes up for capitalism by being a wonderfully executed work of art.
Right wing person here. I loved your take on Barbie. I won't watch it now though... I will wait to watch later with the whole family. But your take was really nice. I loved all the Barbie movies and this one is just another Barbie movie to me.
I still can‘t believe how many ppl couldn‘t see the obvious message including apparently you too. Like, how is it not so obvious that barbie land is reflecting what the children playing with barbies think society is like based on marketing. Especially the girls being told „you can do anything!“ by corporations like mattel and others too. The entire movie is like 2 kids playing toys and both of them having to grow up to realize how different the real world is from what they imagined. Be that as a „positive“ for the boy‘s eyes who only got to play with his sisters dolls as a side character before seeing how in the real world it‘s still „all about men“ or the girl seeing that the entire thing of „you can be anything you want!“ being a massive lie. All the movie does is reflect what it‘s like to grow up into a world far different from your imaginary child world. And honestly I‘m kinda sick of ppl brushing it off cause mattel sponsored it. Better never ever take any sponsorship again or all of your videos are automatically invalid trash i guess. But seriously. This movie couldn‘t have been made without mattel‘s „yes“ to it. And Greta was as seen in the movie trying to still tell a movie that was nuanced enough to critique barbie. And I personally think it did that really well. But no-uh, not a movie for boys so it has to be bad. Can‘t possibly be good when it‘s made by women for women. Nahh can‘t be that. Like seriously? If you ppl really wanna reduce it to the toy company, you never sat down to watch this in earnest. And you netter stop watching anything else too with engagement and passion cause all of it is corporate. Not just the barbie movie. All movies are there to make money.
However one feels about the film I find it alarming as fuck that people went so goo-goo over it that they think it's some radical statement when it's one of the blatantly corporatized pats on the back ever made. Like, you CANNOT say anything bad about Barbie on twitter no matter how good faith or well thought out the criticism is. Barbie derangement is WILD. I don't want to gatekeep Barbie. Lots of women love the toy, the character, the film. And lots of women find real empowerment in it. Good for them. Who is anyone to say its not valid because the politics of the brand haven't been the best? The tension and compromise behind Hollywood films and capitalism is ongoing and always messy and often runs into hypocrisy no matter how cogent or "progressive" a films themes are. But shit, even Bay's Transformers films had the decency to be crass and rude and vulgar and offensive and act like their own thing. Those at least have something to actually talk about and get heated about. Like, Bay's Transformers films have notably problematic depictions of women and POC yet it's also about the rotten-to-the-core evils of our government institutions, big tech, and an allegory for how American treats immigrants. TF 4, one of the more criticized films in the franchise, literally has Optimus Prime kill a bunch of evil black ops CIA goons who were about to kill a teenager girl on her own front lawn. And ya'll telling me these films have nothing to say? Art is allowed to be problematic. It's allowed to be hypocritical. That's what makes it interesting. Barbie is a conglomerate congratulating itself for doing a good Pink Capitalism. I'm not one to instantly get snotty when I see product placement in a film and shit like that...but Barbie is so on the nose about all the while winking at us to make sure we're in on the joke I just felt condescended to.
I think this movie is just a bit boring then the old Barbie movies they have magical sad happy ending this movie looks like just going on a different country or place barbie world isn't a country it's a fiction with drugs smiles
you're taking it a bit too seriously. the Barbie movie was only meant to be a commentary on the current stance of women in society, I don't think it ever had the intention of "upsetting the patriarchy". unless Gerwig herself said something that I missed, this seems like a made up conclusion someone else and now people are taking it as the absolute. the conversation between Barbie and Sasha in the cafeteria is making fun of the exact people who say the kind of stuff you said in this video. Barbie is just a fictional character designed to take on different roles for kids to see themselves in. you're imposing your own interpretation of who Barbie is onto the doll and getting mad at something you came up with. most kids who played with Barbies never thought that was how they should look like, it was the articles being written about Barbie that assumed that themselves and inadvertently gave children gave those ideas. also, the original Barbie doll was blonde and white. her current modern day form is blonde and white because it was a gradual redesign from her original blonde and white doll. and if you really wanna go that far, the character that the original barbie doll was stolen from was a blonde and white woman. Barbie has been blonde and white for 64 years. OBVIOUSLY, people will think of a blonde and white women when they think of Barbie.
Ehhhhhhh think you missed the mark here. Robert never said that he thought the movie would "upset the patriarchy," he literally prefaces his video responding to those who thought it did or would. It's not a damning critique of the film, it's a critique of the audience. And he literally says in the video that the spat between Barbie and Sasha in the cafeteria feels like the writers scrolled through every twitter thread criticizing Barbie as a pop culture figure and wrote Sasha to counter it. Robert is analyzing the film from a Doylist perspective, and you're criticizing his analysis from a Watsonian perspective.
To say that this movie didn't upset the patriarchy is pretty dumb considering the amount of men whining about it, Ben Shapiro literally made like 3 hours of content just to complain and burn multiple Barbie dolls, I know they don't represent the entirety of the patriarchy but they do uphold it. Expecting this movie to be perfect or being hyper critical of it when it doesn’t take itself seriously is literally playing into America Ferrera's monolouge at the end, women can't just exist or create without being held to insane standards. In this case, I feel that shallownes works because the movie is framed like children playing with toys, an exaggerated childlike filter. Not everyone is deep into feminism, this film works as an introduction to it and i believe it does slightly more since it also addresses men's role in this and how they are also hurt by the patriarchy. I feel like a bunch of people are totally discrediting what Barbie means to feminism, of course she didnt "fix" anything, she's a plastic doll! She was made to inspire little girls, she contributed to popularizing and normalizing women's ambition and independence in a time where they weren't even allowed credit cards! Big movements start with baby steps and what this movie has acomplished *culturaly* is pretty big. What was the last unapologetically girly movie that got this kind of success?
"The patriarchy" isn't just "men in general." The men whose feathers are ruffled by this movie's existence aren't patriarchs, they're just random dudes. Patriarchs are much more than just men with money, and they definitely don't feel threatened by the Barbie movie.
To say this movie didn't upset the patriarchy is a rebuttal to those saying it did, not to those actually upset. I've seen a few fragile men be upset and probably thousands of people saying the movie was the most subversive feminist piece of media ever.
Sorry, the mens i know don´t give two shits about this movie, the ones that are upset are those that make money off hate like ben shapiro, bitter men with bad experiences with women or chronically online incels.
Mattel has been pushing barbie of all sizes and races since the late 90s and it's the public who does the qualifier they're not advertised like that and haven't been since about the 70s
This movie didn't upset the patriarchy because it doesn't exist lol " They made a Strawman argument to attack " amazing, you described the current Feminist movement
Look if you're watching a video about a film expect to get spoiled He said he won't fully spoil it but will discuss the plot So ?? What did you expect??
@@beththegreen I watched the movie the first night it came out; He said he wasn't going to spoil it (as some other youtube reviewers also said - but unlike them he actually did explain the entire plot) I was just pointing out the irony of it more than anything
no like i agree with everything he said but it kind of feels like this man loves to hate on women or things they love. like he addresses this and says he’s not diminishing greta’s accomplishments, but like i do feel an underlying misogyny
You agree with everything he said, but "it just kind of feels like this man loves to hate on women"....wow, what a succinct, strong postulation. Let me try to replicate. "Idk Anniebellec, I just feel like you like go out on fields and eat grass like cows, just idk like I just feel like a very bovine vibe from you."
It's crazy how people still think women don't have equal footing. Absolutely nothing but upset assholes is going to tell you otherwise. No institution, corporation, school, organization, etc; will ever stop you from succeeding.
Unrelated to the topic because I don’t care, just wanted to let you know that you look like Rowley from diary of a wimpy kid lmfao Edit: Rowley except he decided to go trans and it didn’t work out too well💀👌
Barbie Movie might not have upset the patriarchy, but man did it sure upset Ben Shapiro, and that's good enough in my opinion.
ben shapiro is Jewish
That’s called tribalism
@@OhItsTeddy Care to elaborate?
@@Chaos-._ to find solace in “upsetting the opposition” is why we as a country are in a political wasteland as is.
Everyone is so fixated on making content/comments that prove the other side wrong, there is very little being done to understand the valid points each person has on any subject.
Somewhere in the middle of all this feuding, real life is happening and I just feel that people have become enamored on just pissing off everyone who they have decided they just don’t like.
And to be clear I’m not a fan of anyone whole heartily, even my wife, who I love dearly and more than anything have disagreements about how we see the world.
Divide and conquer is real.
There’s value in everything.
Just like me watching this video.
I do not know the creator, never seen a video of theirs and I feel like I was able to gain a perspective that I otherwise would not be privileged to, because it was well done and thought out.
I hope that helps clarify my point.
Peace
@@OhItsTeddy Historically people find joy in upsetting Nazis and other types of bigots. This is in that same category.
This isn't a left verses right issue, this is a "haha bigot mad" issue.
I loved the Barbie Movie but only as a fun consumer product. It wasn't as deep as it tried to be and it's so corny for Mattel to basically "apologize" for how they have been damaging in the past. It felt like one big commercial for a dying IP.
Periodt.
It’s crazy because in the 80’s and 90’s cartoons were made to sell dolls/action figures but Barbie was never made to be that kind of IP since her inception was in the 60’s.
It took Mattel this many years to figure out what other IPs like Voltron, GI Joe and My Little Pony did would work for Barbie, too. 😂
This flim is pro communist china propaganda. No wonder Vietnam, middle east etc.. ban this movies 🤔😂
@@VictoryXR that's not entirely true. There are countless animated Barbie movies that have been successful as a TV movie and DVD product. I have a feeling they decided to do this because Barbies are truly falling out of fashion with little girls.
I didn't take the ending trying to be happy or solve anything. In my interpretation Barbie becoming human was an analogy to "growing up" in the imperfect real world. Barbie in itself is like this "imperfect" feminism icon that, through the ages had a flawed but sometimes fundamental purpose. Maybe it will get better, maybe it wont, but women will keep living and sharing memories and passing on what they think it's important. It's like the ending to Metal Gear Solid 2. Loved the movie by the way.
Yeah after the credits rolled I kinda just felt sad for the character.
@@ajemison3 I didn't feel sad, it was a great character arc, about finding our own purpose on the world and dealing with imperfections, knowing we'll make mistakes and keep going.
I like your take on the ending, I just feel people will take it the wrong way and go to hating the opposite sex even more
@@NachtmahrxXXx I think people will always find an excuse to do that. No matter the intentions of the artist
This flim is pro communist china propaganda. No wonder Vietnam, middle east etc.. ban this movies 🤔
This is the kind of “backlash” I was expecting from the Barbie movie. Not conservatives losing their mind that the Ken doll is obsessed with Barbie.
You can't even find any nuanced criticisms of the film without them being centered around conservatism, and liberals are using that as a way to hate on leftism even more! And this has been said to death, but you can enjoy things while simultenously critisizing them.
It reminds me of when the police department "investigates themselves" to placate the public, and then surprisingly find nothing wrong.
Yuh
well I am a survivor of police brutality and I asked them to investigate themselves and arrest officers that tased me or raped me. (I was a human trafficking slavery survivor with seizures and PTSD that the police preferred to exploit rather than rescue.) They refused to investigate themselves. They referred to a brotherhood in which any police officer or FBI agent who commits a crime gets protected by the other FBI agents or officers. So none of them ever go to jail for raping a rape victim or groping a rape victim or threatening to shoot a rape victim or tasing a rape victim or beating a rape victim and dislocating her arms because she is only 6 years old and they get moved from their sockets pretty easily when they throw you on the floor and pull your arms behind your back. I had to run into walls to push my arms back into their sockets and everyone called me retarded. I just wanted to be able to move my arms and not have them hanging limp at my sides. This happened in Idaho and Wisconsin. Because of the brotherhood none of them ever find anything wrong and none of them admit to the police brutality that they do. They also abandon rape victims to die by suicide if you say you're suicidal rather than rescue them, or they curse, shout, victim blame, call you names, and just do all manner of psychological and emotional abuse. Then they abandon you to live in an abusive home and they then tell you they will spread rumors and lies about you being a prostitute to make themselves look good to the police chief or other officers or other men and try to get prostitution legalized and tell you they like to rape prostitutes. Sometime instead of leaving, they then get frustrated when you try to stop them from that type of emotional abuse and then they tase you, causing you a seizure. So you are forced to have a seizure and potentially die from it because you've told them you are suicidal due to being abused and preferring death over abuse. Then after the seizure is over they ask you if they can tase you again because, for them, they say it's an experiment. They don't care if they hurt or kill you. I managed to convince the tasing officer to go away after the one seizure he gave me and not tase me until I was dead, but it was hard. It's also hard to make them leave when they have their hands on their guns and they are screaming at you that they want to shoot you in the head or face.
Watch any right wing conservatives review of this movie, they are definitely UPSET. And in the end they literally acknowledge that maybe one day Kens will have the same amount of rights as women in the real world. You AREN'T meant to feel like Barbieland is good at the end - it's a reflection of our own world and the fact that we don't have full equality. Which is reinforced by the fact that in the end Gloria doesn't get a promotion, they just use her idea for profit - which is probably the best dig at Mattel Greta could get in the movie lmao
Upsetting the patriarchy and upsetting insecure men are not the same thing
Yeah, almost like “if you think the kens deserve to be equals, then look at how women are treated in our world. Once women are equal here, men will be equal there”
Yes because in the real world women can't succeed, don't succeed. Totallyyyyyy.
@@jacquephine1926 It doesn't upsets "the patriarchy" in the sense that it does a great critique, but in the sense that the mere abstract association of the movie with feminism, triggered them hard.
It falls in line with other media in reactionary politics where reactionaries want to screen "gone woke" etc. You have to remember that conservatives have zero ability to critique media, so "aesthetically feminist" rather than "actually feminist" is what makes them lose their marbles.
I'm a right-wing conservative, a gay man and I happen to be a massive fan of Barbie. So your argument that ANY right-wing conservatives was upset at this movie is just another idea of the left complaining about labels whilst labelling everyone they possibly can. It was a plastic movie based on a plastic doll I have always loved.
damn it
I really thought this corporate-branded movie could fix things once and for all. I guess it's up to the Bratz movie to heal our wounds.
While I agree with you that this movie did not “upset the patriarchy” I do think that Barbieland is a representation of a cis man’s version of a place devoid of patriarchy- that being a matriarchy as represented in the movie. If a world does not have patriarchy then there MUST be some other power conflict present because a world that is truly equal is not fathomable to them. I could be totally wrong but I do think Greta gerwig is a little more self aware and had to be clever with her writing and directing since Mattel was such a big presence in the movie. I think the point is that Barbieland is not a utopia. As you said, it’s the same as reality just with the roles reversed. We sympathize with Ken even though he brought the big bad patriarchy to Barbieland because we saw him actively being a part of an oppressed group. And when we see Barbieland we understand because damn wouldn’t it be nice to run the world for a change? But when you get to know the PEOPLE in the story- you realize Barbieland isn’t any better. And you’d rather feel pain, and grow up, and have the experiences that make us human, just like Barbie did at the end.
I should add also that her films in general look at things through a woman’s perspective and I did feel that Barbie was almost an allegory for the journey of womanhood. I’ll have to write a paper or something lol.
I very much liked this movie and did cry at multiple parts; but, I agree with you completely it was very much an introduction to feminist theory and the end left much to be desired. I also thought they were going to make the mom ceo and was disappointed when they didn’t.
Oddly enough, Gloria not ending up as CEO kinda works for me? It furthers the "we're better at hiding the patriarchy now" and "Barbie hasn't fixed anything" points that the movie makes
The end was hypocritical and was very - out of nowhere. Imo
Robert, regarding your commentary on the ending; they stated in the movie that eventually, the men gained as much rights as women did in the real world. It didn’t suddenly become equal because that didn’t happen in the real world. I also think it’s suppose to be poking fun at us by saying they got “as much rights as women did” - meaning, don’t expect them to become equal because we aren’t either.
people have been calling barbie's feminism too simple and cringe but i just think about all the little girls who watched the barbie movie, and this was their first introduction to feminism and the patriarchy so it's okay that it's simple. it's not as revolutionary as some say it is and that's okay.
I don't see an issue with simplifying things. I see an issue with misrepresenting them. There are concepts that contradict feminism.
The movie is PG-13. It can hardly serve as the first introduction of patriarchy for a 13 y.o., especially in this day and age.
its PG-13 tho
This movie is an awful introduction to feminism. It’s a great introduction to hypocrisy and misandry but it’s not the movie to show a kid so they learn a good life lesson from it. Quite the opposite.
The matriarchy in the end of the movie symbolizes that these systems cannot be changed overnight or may never be changed.
I can tell you why 'Barbieland' is different from the Mattel that created it, at least from my interpretation - it's interpreted by little girls playing with the toys. Why does Barbie float down the outside of her mansion? Because that's how little girls get her out the dream house, they just hop her out. Little girls' imaginations aren't as encumbered by the realities of the real world as far as patriarchy goes, so of course it's a utopia where Barbie and her friends can do anything. Mattel provides the plastic dolls and accessories but it's the children who flesh out the world in their heads, and even with the more prescrptivist nature of Barbie toys compared to, say, building blocks, you still end up with some seven year olds brandishing Astronaut Barbie and pretending she's a queen in charge of a lizard army. It's also why Barbieland is a rigid matriarchy and doesn't return to a more balanced future - because the girls playing with Barbies by and large aren't all that interested in Kens, don't see themselves in him and don't have accessories marketed for him, because Ken dolls are Barbie accessories in and of themselves rather than a standalone toy range. Lots of little girls never even get a Ken doll, they're just not interested. Once outside influences are removed, the little girls are going to continue imagining a Barbie-centric world. You could say this is a criticism of how patriarchy replicates itself by having so many folks in top spots who cannot empathise with women but that's one's own step to take.
This was always going to be a two hour advert, just as the Lego and Marvel movies are, I find it a bit odd that there's so *much* more focus on this downside compared to other movies marketed more at guys, but it is a valid criticism. It was never going to be an in-depth feminist critique of Mattel and their most famous ambassador toy line.
I suspect what that post meant was that it upset a lot of fragile men, which it observably has
I was so hopeful of Gerwig not to make this as surface level as it ended up being. but it ultimately felt hollow and driven by money. Maybe my expectations were too high so I ended up super disappointed.
Not sure how far deep you wanted it to go. I think most people think it did a fine job but let the corporation off way to easy.
even if it didn't "Upset the Patriarchy" it upset lots of people who love the patriarchy like Ben shapiro so big W in my book
For me, the ending was perfect. In the real world, women were never given equal footing after the suffrage movement. We are expected to "work our way up" and a century later still struggle. I think the Barbie ending recognizes that truth at the end, so the Kens are not immediately put on as true equals.
Good point.
Perfectly put
Yeah, in the real world we have this inequality because we have power structures whose purpose is alien to equality, people in power who care little, and the rest of the people who live in ignorance, dissonance, and with a lack of empathy. Supposedly, when the barbies regain power, they should have everything that will allow them to have an egalitarian society, the fact that in the end they intend to maintain matriarchy as a reflection of current society means that either the power they have is false, or that they learned nothing from the inequality they experienced against them...
Maybe that's the intention of the ending, idk
'Robert' channel is dying 💀also women☕
You don't think men have to do the same thing? Lmao? Literally, nothing institutional is stopping women from succeeding. Sure there are assholes, but they aren't the institution.
Am I the only one who found it so fun to watch? I low-key want a sequel 😭
DEF
Did he say it's not?
@@BeautifulEarthJa Nah. I was just stating that despite some of the flaws the film has - the colour schemes of the set, the costume designs, and the soundtrack made it an enjoyable film to view in cinemas.
No sequel is needed, we need a Allen spin-off!
The geopolitical upheaval being caused by Barbie's world map is a sign of the apocalypse I never saw coming.
*Spoilers* I was kinda disappointed with the Barbie movie. I was expecting her to be in the real world much longer, probably learning what it's like to be a woman from America's eyes or a day in the life of her daughters at school being tormented by other girls or boys(I don't even remember her name and she barely had any lines). I'm also so confused why people are idolizing Ken since he was written to be very "incel-like" and literally took barbie's home and ruined her life after being rejected. Since when are there 100's of Kens? isn't the joke that no one plays with them? How did Ken overthrow Barbieland so easily? Why did the Barbies find it "easier" to be submissive to Kens if Barbieland was built on matriarchal pillars? I wish they had explained or showed how that happened. It gave the impression that women are gullible and easily impressed, no matter how smart or powerful they are. I also didn't understand how America's speech "deprogrammed" the Barbies since they never experienced any of the situations or feelings she expressed (wasn't that the point of the 1st act?). Also, in the end it didn't even matter what qualifications or jobs or talents the Barbie's had , all they had to do was seduce the Kens and they were able to gain power back by "stealing it" when they weren't looking which isn't a very inspiring message if you ask me. AND EVEN STILL after the Barbies regain control the CEO continued to be condescending to America's character when she stated her "normal barbie" idea. So in the end, what even did she gain from her adventure??
PS. the moment where the narrator broke the 4th wall when Margot Robbie said she felt ugly was uncalled for. You can be stereotypically pretty and still feel ugly and depressed sometimes. IDK what Greta was trying to do there
I'm not with y'all i mean you're probably correct but I'm choosing FUN this time its been ages since there was like an event that got ppl excited and kinda everyone could enjoy i dont remember such a thing since Pokemon Go and it was nice break from the barrage of world ending headlines we got on the daily
I thought the movie was kinda bad, glad you brought up certain things about Mattel such as the all male board just not being real
Yeah i thought it was weird af that at the end the barbies went back to dominating the kens. No lesson learned i guess.
honestly i saw the matriarchal system of barbieland as an inverse of the real world, so once the real world reaches "true equality", so will barbieland since in barbieland they did allow at least some position in the judicial branch for the kens, and suggested that in the future they could take a position as a court judge - hinting that equality would be achieved one day. but yeah if my interpretation is wrong then it does feel like a lazy ending like what's the point in showing hypocrisy if you're not going to give a solution
@@teresav8621 There was no inverse. We live in a matriarchy out here as well. Mainstream ociety activity uses every possible opportunity to either slander or make a mockery of men. We had the metoo movement, which effectively took away men's right to due process, using the court of public opinion, the duluth model which effectively does the saame thing, the family courts which skewed in favor of women, the legal system which gives women lighter sentences than men for the same crime, and using men and the patriarchy as a convenient scapegoat for women's crappy life choices. Men are falsely branded as oppressors, and are constantly told that they are trash, that they are not needed, that they are not important, and that they are worthless. The words "strong independent woman", men ain't shit", and "don't need no man" have become the most favorite mantra of modern women. Feminists never consider anything to be equality unless it is exclusively detrimental to men and children, and to the family unit in general. Ironically, there has never been a more compelling case presented for removing women's rights than by the 4 waves of the feminist movement.
Thank you for communicating what I couldnt put into words
Same gurl. I got hate for hating on this film but he/him put it in such great words
@@TheEmpress1768 Right? Everyone I saw it with had nothing bad to say but the plot was trying to cram so much into it it was overwhelming..
"the ultimate goal of the Barbie movie is to make money, and it did that well; it's a box office hit, but it also serves the important purpose of giving the Mattel brand a facelift. With its radiant, diverse cast of beautiful people of all races sizes and gender identity, it makes Mattel look as if they're with the times, even though they've been pushing a standard of beauty and body by a plastic thin blonde white woman for decades."BRILLIANT" which is why I'll wait till it's on Netflix to see it.
you made some really good points. there was an interview where margot says that an all women led barbie land wasnt ideal either. there has a to a mix of both women and men running it
*_judging by the conservative response they have to be upset_*
Dang I’ve never been this early. Keep up the great work Robert, love your videos💕
Was literally buying Barbenheimer tickets as you uploaded this. In the 12 minutes since I’ve had two mimosas, bottom surgery, and four ribs removed.
I read through some of the critics reviews after i watched the move and one said, that eventhough it did many things right, it failed to show any alternatives. After reflecting on it i kinda agree to an extend. In a way the Barbieland started and ended as a Matriarchy. The Kens now know that they dont have to be a certain type of Man but they are not equal to the Barbies, atleast structurally. If you create a equivalent Barbieworld but instead of Gender it would be race relations, with Kens representing white People and Poc and Black people being in the position the Barbies are in, that would be just as dissatisfying if it would end the way this movie did. Having white people at the bottom until POC and Black People would be equal in the real world aswell. In a world where anything seems possible, essentially restoring the starting order seems underwhelming, especially when you realize how Kens changes in Barbieworld affected the real world. So not only could they have shown a egalitarian utopia, an alternative way of living, but it could also give a bigger sense of hope. Instead they choose the path of slow reform over time like we do right now.
Maybe Greta Gerwig wanted to show more but was constricted due to the Studio, Budget or Mattell. Its still a very good movie.
0:54 OMG same! She had this “I’ve had enough” vibe that was all too relatable.
This was a great watch/listen, and super insightful! I didn't even think about the company and marketing stuff. Thanks Robert!!!!!!
Thanks, you articulated my thoughts about this movie extremely well.
The movie felt self aware on that
Ok, took me FAAAAAR to long to understand what "R-A to the cism" meant 🤦🏽♀
Brain do not be braining sometimes 😐
What episode of Black Mirror was that?
So many people fall for bait led by one side or another - it's like they have lost all critical thinking to look at the engagement below rage bait content and realise it's working as intended to mislead and waste time. Educating people to understand the roles of marketers, PR firms, social media and business consultancies, and see the workings of a strategy team that promote or tear down individuals and institutions, would mean these toxic pipelines become far less prevenlent, and the people unknowingly mimicing them because they're fooled by the astoturfing would have better understanding of the world around them - even looking into goverment PR schemes like the online agents of NSA/JTRIG that Snowden uncovered or the events in the 70s like COINTELPRO, it would make people more aware of how they are unknowinly manipulated into following a crafted "mass discourse".
Hooray!
Maybe I missed something...though it was decorated, I thought it was dark and adversarial. Could have been lighter and still had an empowering message of acceptance instead of all the man-hating, especially with the power and influence of such a lovely icon. The cast was great, but I think the story was not something for young children.
If you haven't already please please please make a video about tipping! I'm a food service worker and recently I've been getting customers that refuse to tip because "your boss should be the one paying you" or because "all you did was walk to the table" (completely untrue!) and I think if you made a video people would understand that the issues with modern tipping are very nuanced!
How about this : people don't owe you extra money
To me it seems as one of the best movies in regards to radical politics in recent memory...which is an insult to how bad the environment is around radical politics in movies currently. The words "Barbie move made by Mattel" and "feminist masterpiece" shouldn't be a sentence outside of liberal and centrist circles
most of the actual criticism i heard was about the movie having some radfem understones. that being the joke about an illness that killed a lot of indigenous people and using Barbie having a vagina as sign that shes a real woman.
to clarify, radfem is like, basically feminism but bad. theres definitely someone who can explain it better than me but a lot if women kf color have issues with it because of s racism problem. white woman feminism thats the word. there yiu go that's the word.
that and it being just very controlling ti women. like infantilizing them constantly especially when it comes to their sexuality.
So...what's up with the Sag-aftra strike in regard to the release of Barbenheimer? I would think we should be boycotting movies all together unti the strikers demands are met.
Sag-aftra says we should continue to view media for now, they're hoping it doesn't have to get to that point I think
Seeing movies in theaters actually pays those people on strike, just saying. Streaming doesn't, but they haven't said to boycott anything, and we shouldn't change what we're already doing until they do.
The patriarchy is an enduring feature of human instinct, and will not be going anywhere.
Who are you? What are your credentials in any related field of study?
I have Irritable Patriarchy Disease, my patriarchy gets upset literally by just looking at anything pink, or by eating dairy
Idk man I found it healing. No, Barbie isn’t going to solve patriarchy. It’s Babies First Feminism. But it’s something. It’s a start.
Also, I’m not gonna lie, I find it very sus that all these left-wingers are talking about how problematic Barbie is not even a week after it’s debut. This thing made by women for women? Not good enough.
You gotta watch out for liberal and leftist men. They can kinda talk over women. From all the women I know, barbie was a hit.
Movies are never going to be perfect or solve the world's problems.
@jessicayoung3656 Yep, it's good to watch w/ your kids. Not really some new age solution to gender equality some seem to think it is.
@@jessicayoung3656 I’ve been seeing these video essays from women, too. Like the movie came out on Friday and the essay’s up on Sunday about how problematic it is.
Meanwhile, half the movie is about how women are held to impossible standards and have to be perfect just to be considered a person.
@nervousbreakdown711 OK but you gotta admit that a feminist movie making money ane being number 1 is a good thing right?
People criticize the left because it's too negative and doomsday like. I wish people would just appreciate things for once.
@@nervousbreakdown711 Being considered a person means criticism though. The fact that it's "by women for women" shouldn't change that and claiming that it does or should feels extremely shallow.None of the video essays from women I've seen were holding it to impossible standards, they're just critquing it. Not to mention they're generally not critiquing the individual women who worked on the film, they're talking about the film. A product.
Walking out of the movie with an unexpected jolt of Kenergy was Kenough for me to enjoy the Barbie movie 😅
Robert is the only leftist UA-camr I like Robert my favorite big booty Latina!
Robert, are you sure that that "feminism" Instagram account isn't astroturf, with paid posts, comments, and likes?
That is always my first thought now when I see something on social media and the amount of likes or positive/negative comments just doesn't align with common sense or what I observe in the real world.
It did not end the patriarchy, but it was delightful. Much like the Lego movie, it’s a commercial that makes up for capitalism by being a wonderfully executed work of art.
Periodt
Right wing person here. I loved your take on Barbie. I won't watch it now though... I will wait to watch later with the whole family. But your take was really nice. I loved all the Barbie movies and this one is just another Barbie movie to me.
I still can‘t believe how many ppl couldn‘t see the obvious message including apparently you too. Like, how is it not so obvious that barbie land is reflecting what the children playing with barbies think society is like based on marketing. Especially the girls being told „you can do anything!“ by corporations like mattel and others too. The entire movie is like 2 kids playing toys and both of them having to grow up to realize how different the real world is from what they imagined. Be that as a „positive“ for the boy‘s eyes who only got to play with his sisters dolls as a side character before seeing how in the real world it‘s still „all about men“ or the girl seeing that the entire thing of „you can be anything you want!“ being a massive lie. All the movie does is reflect what it‘s like to grow up into a world far different from your imaginary child world. And honestly I‘m kinda sick of ppl brushing it off cause mattel sponsored it. Better never ever take any sponsorship again or all of your videos are automatically invalid trash i guess. But seriously. This movie couldn‘t have been made without mattel‘s „yes“ to it. And Greta was as seen in the movie trying to still tell a movie that was nuanced enough to critique barbie. And I personally think it did that really well. But no-uh, not a movie for boys so it has to be bad. Can‘t possibly be good when it‘s made by women for women. Nahh can‘t be that. Like seriously? If you ppl really wanna reduce it to the toy company, you never sat down to watch this in earnest. And you netter stop watching anything else too with engagement and passion cause all of it is corporate. Not just the barbie movie. All movies are there to make money.
Just got an anti trans ad on your video 😭😭
However one feels about the film I find it alarming as fuck that people went so goo-goo over it that they think it's some radical statement when it's one of the blatantly corporatized pats on the back ever made. Like, you CANNOT say anything bad about Barbie on twitter no matter how good faith or well thought out the criticism is. Barbie derangement is WILD.
I don't want to gatekeep Barbie. Lots of women love the toy, the character, the film. And lots of women find real empowerment in it. Good for them. Who is anyone to say its not valid because the politics of the brand haven't been the best?
The tension and compromise behind Hollywood films and capitalism is ongoing and always messy and often runs into hypocrisy no matter how cogent or "progressive" a films themes are.
But shit, even Bay's Transformers films had the decency to be crass and rude and vulgar and offensive and act like their own thing. Those at least have something to actually talk about and get heated about. Like, Bay's Transformers films have notably problematic depictions of women and POC yet it's also about the rotten-to-the-core evils of our government institutions, big tech, and an allegory for how American treats immigrants. TF 4, one of the more criticized films in the franchise, literally has Optimus Prime kill a bunch of evil black ops CIA goons who were about to kill a teenager girl on her own front lawn. And ya'll telling me these films have nothing to say?
Art is allowed to be problematic. It's allowed to be hypocritical. That's what makes it interesting.
Barbie is a conglomerate congratulating itself for doing a good Pink Capitalism. I'm not one to instantly get snotty when I see product placement in a film and shit like that...but Barbie is so on the nose about all the while winking at us to make sure we're in on the joke I just felt condescended to.
I think this movie is just a bit boring then the old Barbie movies they have magical sad happy ending this movie looks like just going on a different country or place barbie world isn't a country it's a fiction with drugs smiles
Honestly? Chanty Binx IS an icon! She made some really good points, the men around her just didn't listen to her (what a shock). I stan.
you're taking it a bit too seriously. the Barbie movie was only meant to be a commentary on the current stance of women in society, I don't think it ever had the intention of "upsetting the patriarchy". unless Gerwig herself said something that I missed, this seems like a made up conclusion someone else and now people are taking it as the absolute.
the conversation between Barbie and Sasha in the cafeteria is making fun of the exact people who say the kind of stuff you said in this video. Barbie is just a fictional character designed to take on different roles for kids to see themselves in. you're imposing your own interpretation of who Barbie is onto the doll and getting mad at something you came up with. most kids who played with Barbies never thought that was how they should look like, it was the articles being written about Barbie that assumed that themselves and inadvertently gave children gave those ideas.
also, the original Barbie doll was blonde and white. her current modern day form is blonde and white because it was a gradual redesign from her original blonde and white doll. and if you really wanna go that far, the character that the original barbie doll was stolen from was a blonde and white woman. Barbie has been blonde and white for 64 years. OBVIOUSLY, people will think of a blonde and white women when they think of Barbie.
Ehhhhhhh think you missed the mark here. Robert never said that he thought the movie would "upset the patriarchy," he literally prefaces his video responding to those who thought it did or would. It's not a damning critique of the film, it's a critique of the audience.
And he literally says in the video that the spat between Barbie and Sasha in the cafeteria feels like the writers scrolled through every twitter thread criticizing Barbie as a pop culture figure and wrote Sasha to counter it. Robert is analyzing the film from a Doylist perspective, and you're criticizing his analysis from a Watsonian perspective.
To say that this movie didn't upset the patriarchy is pretty dumb considering the amount of men whining about it, Ben Shapiro literally made like 3 hours of content just to complain and burn multiple Barbie dolls, I know they don't represent the entirety of the patriarchy but they do uphold it.
Expecting this movie to be perfect or being hyper critical of it when it doesn’t take itself seriously is literally playing into America Ferrera's monolouge at the end, women can't just exist or create without being held to insane standards. In this case, I feel that shallownes works because the movie is framed like children playing with toys, an exaggerated childlike filter. Not everyone is deep into feminism, this film works as an introduction to it and i believe it does slightly more since it also addresses men's role in this and how they are also hurt by the patriarchy.
I feel like a bunch of people are totally discrediting what Barbie means to feminism, of course she didnt "fix" anything, she's a plastic doll! She was made to inspire little girls, she contributed to popularizing and normalizing women's ambition and independence in a time where they weren't even allowed credit cards! Big movements start with baby steps and what this movie has acomplished *culturaly* is pretty big. What was the last unapologetically girly movie that got this kind of success?
"The patriarchy" isn't just "men in general." The men whose feathers are ruffled by this movie's existence aren't patriarchs, they're just random dudes. Patriarchs are much more than just men with money, and they definitely don't feel threatened by the Barbie movie.
Again like someone else said in the comment section upsetting insecure men is not the same as upsetting the patriarchy.
To say this movie didn't upset the patriarchy is a rebuttal to those saying it did, not to those actually upset. I've seen a few fragile men be upset and probably thousands of people saying the movie was the most subversive feminist piece of media ever.
Sorry, the mens i know don´t give two shits about this movie, the ones that are upset are those that make money off hate like ben shapiro, bitter men with bad experiences with women or chronically online incels.
I just found the movie cheesy and hugely over hyped. I was expecting it to be something better, but I was let down by the lacking acting and writing.
Shame on you for shaming underweight women who can't code.
Mattel has been pushing barbie of all sizes and races since the late 90s and it's the public who does the qualifier they're not advertised like that and haven't been since about the 70s
It’s just a gendered revenge flick. A “see how would you like it?”
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Id watch Barbie over a war movie any day, so Oppenheimer only was only able to get people because of barbie.
This movie didn't upset the patriarchy because it doesn't exist lol
" They made a Strawman argument to attack " amazing, you described the current Feminist movement
"NOT GONNA SPOIL IT" Proceeds to explain entire plot lmao
Look if you're watching a video about a film expect to get spoiled
He said he won't fully spoil it but will discuss the plot
So ?? What did you expect??
@@beththegreen I watched the movie the first night it came out; He said he wasn't going to spoil it (as some other youtube reviewers also said - but unlike them he actually did explain the entire plot)
I was just pointing out the irony of it more than anything
Yeah, the movie wasn't that good. Sasha was the most feminist character.
Yeah, no shit. It helped you to generate some outrage content though, so I suppose you should be thanking Greta.
no like i agree with everything he said but it kind of feels like this man loves to hate on women or things they love. like he addresses this and says he’s not diminishing greta’s accomplishments, but like i do feel an underlying misogyny
he just doesn’t get it
You agree with everything he said, but "it just kind of feels like this man loves to hate on women"....wow, what a succinct, strong postulation. Let me try to replicate. "Idk Anniebellec, I just feel like you like go out on fields and eat grass like cows, just idk like I just feel like a very bovine vibe from you."
@@anniebellec but if you agree, and you think you get it, wouldn't that mean he also gets it?
@@AletheAce yeah like it’s just a vibe. and i do eat grass, i have pica
@@user-es7ui5mc1m no like he doesn’t get it. not the movie, “it”.
It's crazy how people still think women don't have equal footing. Absolutely nothing but upset assholes is going to tell you otherwise. No institution, corporation, school, organization, etc; will ever stop you from succeeding.
Roe would like a word with you
@@kittykittybangbang9367 Abortion is still legal in many states, and frankly myself and many folks consider it murder.
Ok incel
@@darasuum1462 Ok incel
@@sopadumacacoumadelicia5 Funny guy, tell me what's stopping women from succeeding?
Unrelated to the topic because I don’t care, just wanted to let you know that you look like Rowley from diary of a wimpy kid lmfao
Edit: Rowley except he decided to go trans and it didn’t work out too well💀👌
anyone who hates on this movie is outing themselves
Outing themselves as what?? Lol
Criticism isn’t “hating”.
bruh why are you here if youre one of them LMFAO
@@evah1928 As nuanced consumers of cultures who can freely think and critisize films without resorting to binary thinking.
@@pisceanbeauty2503Is it HELPFUL Criticism? If not it's just complaining.
Did we watch two completely different movies? 😂
I mean… the characters align but… what? 😂
Create ridiculous strawman
Argue against strawman
Get views thinking a great rebuke has been made
What a ridiculous opening statement
Is strawman all you know how to say?
WE ARE KENOVGH.
and I don't like your vibe. instant dislike
Is there anything you won’t complain about? My god, let women enjoy something for once.
This is literally his job, don't be dense.
um...why watch if you are gonna complain? you're complaining about complaining! gah! now I'm doing it. Good night.
We get it, you're lonely... Imagine doing this with all of your time and still being wrong
ty young white man who talks like a lady.