Who are the Real "Gentrifiers"?

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  • Опубліковано 26 кві 2023
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    Sources/Further Reading:
    Information about causes of gentrification
    www.huduser.gov/portal/period...
    Slater article
    www.geos.ed.ac.uk/~tslater/as...
    Demsas Article 1
    www.theatlantic.com/ideas/arc...
    Demsas Article 2
    www.vox.com/22650806/gentrifi...
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  • @RevertedRashidah
    @RevertedRashidah Рік тому +406

    It is very exhausting to constantly have the onus of systemic and policy issues placed on individuals to fix, especially women. Upper middle class white women aren’t buying up property at the rate corporate landlords are, and never will!

    • @TomikaKelly
      @TomikaKelly Рік тому +32

      They're not the sole cause of it. Some are definitely participants (ex: Brooklyn) but they aren't the sole cause.

    • @photofreak56
      @photofreak56 Рік тому

      while not the root cause they are a part of the problem. Because the white yuppie woman has no respect for anyone who isn't like her. I know this because as a white working-class woman I'm treated like shit by them every day and I'm not even getting the majority of their bullshit as POC and BIPOC women get more shit from these bitches than anyone else.

    • @topaz3452
      @topaz3452 Рік тому

      Sexism. Like I know white womanhood is a problem but these people just wanna blame women but choose to blame white women so they won’t be called a sexist.

    • @marnenotmarnie259
      @marnenotmarnie259 Рік тому +12

      yeah it's crazy cause i'm pretty sure most people know landlords and corporations are the ones causing the problems (like obviously random tenants of cheap housing aren't literally bringing these giant businesses into the area) but they still get blamed for all of it?? and yeah the influencers usually aren't helping but they're not all women so??????

    • @beefy74
      @beefy74 Рік тому +8

      similar to people vilifying ONLY taylor swift for having a private plane… not for or against her, but the short lived environmentalists who rallied against her liked participating in this, as well.

  • @jemmagordon4439
    @jemmagordon4439 Рік тому +382

    Landlords should be illegal. They're causing most of the housing shortage by buying all the builings and leaving some vacant to increase prices to tgeir liking

    • @tatiana4050
      @tatiana4050 Рік тому +51

      ​@@ville__ anyone who doesn't live with their parents or have them pay their rent

    • @miraann3997
      @miraann3997 Рік тому +4

      @@tatiana4050 get your money up

    • @tatiana4050
      @tatiana4050 Рік тому +40

      @@miraann3997 "just earn more money"
      Also no matter how much money I would earn I would still prefer that lesser percentage of it would be going to rent.
      I'm all for paying landlords fair wage. Just not OK with paying their mortgage.

    • @radiationshepherd
      @radiationshepherd Рік тому +12

      Starting with the big corporate ones

    • @tatiana4050
      @tatiana4050 Рік тому +13

      @@radiationshepherd and we are not getting played by landlords just directly.
      Companies also rent from landlords. (Sometimes they themselves are the landlords) and use that fact as reason to jack up prices.
      Hypothetically, if we all collectively owned the land and charged companies to use it. We could abolish most other forms of tax.

  • @allenteare5188
    @allenteare5188 Рік тому +116

    I'm moving to an apartment that's on a street considered "unsafe" in my city. I feel bad that I may be taking a housing opportunity away from an underprivileged person but I remember that I myself could easily become homeless if I miss two days of work. I am the type of person that this housing is for. I don't have money or anyone willing to help me enough to be able to afford any other apartment in my city. I need this housing and I will vote for policies that make more cheap housing available for the growing unhoused population near me.

    • @rosemarytea3878
      @rosemarytea3878 Рік тому +47

      I'm not from USA, but honestly don't understand why you even have to explain yourself. No one is moving to unsafe neighbourhood just for fun

    • @bambida1st
      @bambida1st Рік тому +9

      @@rosemarytea3878 i am from the us and I’m from a place that’s getting quickly gentrified and while there are plenty people like this commenter who are just trying to find an affordable place to live there are also young wealthy people that do in fact move to these “dangerous” neighborhoods for the aesthetic being surrounded by poverty is like an adventure to them

    • @rosemarytea3878
      @rosemarytea3878 Рік тому +8

      @@bambida1st I personally welcome these guys to the post-ussr 90s with mafia, kidnappers, poverty, lack of food, medicine, jobs, etc. It's very aesthetic if they survive, I promise.

    • @BlackXSunlight
      @BlackXSunlight 6 місяців тому +1

      If you could become homeless if you miss two days of work, bbygrl you are underprivileged 😭 that place is for you!

  • @badbitcheswalkthrough8195
    @badbitcheswalkthrough8195 Рік тому +148

    I keep having to tell people that just because they put the word white in front of something, it doesn’t erase whatever bigoted, misogynistic, queerphobic, classist shit they say next.

    • @ville__
      @ville__ Рік тому +4

      Who cares

    • @justaduck3615
      @justaduck3615 Рік тому +43

      @@ville__ Considering you’re the one replying, it seems that you do.

    • @liviwaslost
      @liviwaslost Рік тому +6

      @@ville__care enough to comment bozo

    • @WolframiteWraith
      @WolframiteWraith Рік тому +26

      Absolutely. I'm so sick of hearing people shit on white women down to innocuous things like what music or flavour latte they like and pretending they are taking the privileged down a peg when they're actually just being overly critical of women, which is in no way a hot take.

  • @emilygalloway4865
    @emilygalloway4865 Рік тому +153

    Thanks for bringing up NIMBYism! It's a massive factor in gentrification and pushing out social uses from communities. A friend of mine was working on a new daycare development and one of the neighbours hired a urban planning firm to oppose the application. Why? Because they were so rich they had nannies and didn't want noisy kids near them. It's not always the upper middle class making life difficult for everyone else, its the super wealthy since they tend have the money to throw around.

    • @marlak4203
      @marlak4203 Рік тому +1

      But in cities like Detroite, Chicago, etc, where they have a lot of old homes and buildings where these millionaires do NOT live why can't homes be built there?
      In Detroit it was common for decades that when a home went down they'd leave an empty lot and then sell it to the neighbor next door instead of building up a home.
      And there are a lot of empty lots all over. Then nothing is built for decades, the persons in the home get used to no one being around and if the city decides to then build homes next to them again i'm sure that will cause hit backs for that too.
      Smh

    • @churblefurbles
      @churblefurbles 6 місяців тому +1

      @@marlak4203 because the progressives who use words like "nimbyism" don't want to experience the diversity they claim is so wonderful.

    • @DADRB0B55
      @DADRB0B55 5 місяців тому

      NIMBY’s is just now a code word for a low income POC, I highly doubt a poor old Mexican grandma wanting to not have spend her social security check paying rich people taxes in a neighborhood she spent her entire growing up as a native. Speaking of which were the native Americans tribes back in colonial times just a bunch of NIMBY’s ? Halting your stupid yt washed idea of ““progression””

  • @kristinmason2873
    @kristinmason2873 Рік тому +156

    I’d be super interested to see your take on this problem on a global scale. Like people from the US moving to countries in South America or Africa and pricing out locals

    • @bennybenz7722
      @bennybenz7722 Рік тому

      I think thats an unfsir assessment. I live in NYC. Everyone is an immigrant. I’ve been priced out by literal immigrants not white people. The cheaper housing goes to them automatically. Theres probably a 99:1 ratio of people coming here vs Americans living abroad but Americans need housing too….

    • @Cleverbunny86
      @Cleverbunny86 Рік тому +68

      Also white rich people calling themselves expats instead of immigrants 😂

    • @danielaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
      @danielaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Рік тому +13

      Yup, such a huge problem in Mexico and Puerto Rico for example

    • @labumtum
      @labumtum Рік тому +7

      Also allowing foreigners(non americans) to buy multiple houses here in the U.S.
      Many times the issues Americans cause by moving to other countries also arise when immigrants move here. Not all immigrants obvs since some countries are "poorer".

    • @medici__
      @medici__ Рік тому +7

      This is a huge problem in my country (kenya)

  • @marycanary3871
    @marycanary3871 Рік тому +21

    Feudalism never ended

    • @victoriawalker7792
      @victoriawalker7792 Рік тому

      This is actually very true. The concept of a landlord is feudal. Really, a capitalist should sneer at the concept, because there is no production occurring, and they simply (in a roundabout fashion) skim profits without work.

  • @TomikaKelly
    @TomikaKelly Рік тому +45

    Systems are definitely a primary issue. Granted individuals play into a system, but the system is still a main issue.

  • @KINGBADASS100
    @KINGBADASS100 Рік тому +30

    Your videos are always reasonable & straightforward in unpacking difficult subjects.

  • @foxgloved8922
    @foxgloved8922 Рік тому +67

    I’ve been researching green gentrification recently for a school project, so this is a interesting coincidence :)

    • @ville__
      @ville__ Рік тому +3

      Who cares

    • @foxgloved8922
      @foxgloved8922 Рік тому +22

      @@ville__ you cared enough to respond

    • @bybookandbone
      @bybookandbone Рік тому +5

      Oh, that sounds really interesting! I haven't heard of the term but I can guess at some of what it might mean. Does it refer to like a sort of 'Green Cultural Appropriation' or how people are priced out of economy lifestyles? Or am I way off 😅

    • @foxgloved8922
      @foxgloved8922 Рік тому +16

      @@bybookandbone it means any kind of sustainability oriented changes to a neighborhood which causes rent/cost of living to rise, thus pricing out the current long term residents. Anything from planting street trees, to installing a bike lane, a new park, etc can cause this. Ultimately I want to write about any research backed solutions to this, like ways to improve a neighborhood without causing displacement, but I’m still early in the research process and have mostly found papers discussing causes of the problem rather than solutions.

    • @bybookandbone
      @bybookandbone Рік тому +5

      @@foxgloved8922 Ok, thank you. That makes sense. I hadn't considered how that happens but that's literally what happened to the street behind mine. I tend to focus on corporate & political greenwashing

  • @cerumen
    @cerumen Рік тому +25

    a user called “Ville__” has manually responded to 9 different comments with “who cares” or some variation. What a use of a life

  • @royaltyblessed2454
    @royaltyblessed2454 Рік тому +61

    Good stuff here. People shouldnt blame individuals at all for this systemic issue. But most lf us agree that gentrifiers can be obnoxious sometimes. Ask anyone in Brooklyn

  • @CanteLizzie
    @CanteLizzie Рік тому +19

    2:32 This literally happened to me. In high school when I first learned about gentrification I DID think it was a good thing.

    • @jimkillerx
      @jimkillerx 11 місяців тому +1

      It is a good thing

  • @Imbatmn57
    @Imbatmn57 Рік тому +13

    I think most of my neighbors own their house, theres a black family across the street and they didnt move out when i bought my house, the house beside me is a rental property but i have little to no control for who lives there, the problem is that in some places prices are so high that people can only move in after a company buys up a neighborhood because its cheaper for them to rent than pay 1.2 million dollars for a house that should only cost 48 thousand.

  • @nizi0
    @nizi0 Рік тому +9

    Normally I watch you to relax or learn something new, right now I'm watching you as a part of preparation for my Urban Environments geography exam tomorrow :)

  • @krisrhood2127
    @krisrhood2127 Рік тому +5

    The reason why all this bigotry is being promoted is because the powers that be really don't want things to change

  • @MissAnathemaDevice
    @MissAnathemaDevice Рік тому +7

    If the apartment blocks they built were actually affordable housing, I don't think I'd mind so much.

  • @MayaMickaMicak
    @MayaMickaMicak Рік тому +25

    I have to use the opportunity of being one of the first ones to comment to ask you if you could do a video debunking pseudoscience of the Medical Medium aka Anthony William (he's the guy that works with Gwinnett Paltrow). He gives bogus medical advice that he says he gets from a "spirit". I know at least one child that died from his bs advice. I never see other crators making videos on him but he's very famous among new age and spiritual people. My mom and her frienda are obsessed with him and one of our family friends, who has cancer, stopped her treatment because of his horrible advice, and I'm afraid to loose her. My words can't get through to them and I'm hoping maybe someone else's can. I hope you consider it!
    Btw I truly love your every video and you are definitely one of my favorite creators and you never disappoint. I can't wait to watch this video!
    Thank you for educating us, and I hope you have a great day!

    • @PanicattheDiscourse
      @PanicattheDiscourse Рік тому +1

      I'm pretty sure I've seen anti MLM / anti grifter channels talking about him.

    • @MayaMickaMicak
      @MayaMickaMicak Рік тому +1

      @@PanicattheDiscourse yeah I've seen some, but there's so few of them in comparison with how popular he is, and most of the time those videos aren't really debunking his claims too much because they assume that nobody believes stuff like "a spirit talking to him" and other weird pseudoscience claims that he's making, but unfortunately a lot of his followers do believe in that stuff and they also don't understand basic scientific principles so you really have to start from the beginning and thoroughly analyze and disprove his false claims for anything to really get through to them, I think.
      But if you found some videos that you think are worth watching, please send them to me if you can, it's possible that I've missed some quality ones! I just hope that he will be exposed somehow so I could gain some hope that my family and other followers of his would stop falling for his scams, if it's not already too late for that.
      Btw, English is not my native language so I'm sorry if I made some mistakes!
      Greetings from Montenegro! 🥰

    • @PanicattheDiscourse
      @PanicattheDiscourse Рік тому +1

      @@MayaMickaMicak I found a Keyasworld stream but that is 3h long and doest go into it well. Mack Attack might have one too but he can be very sarcastic so not a great de-culting approach.

    • @MayaMickaMicak
      @MayaMickaMicak Рік тому +1

      @@PanicattheDiscourse oh I haven't seen them, I will check them out!
      Thank you !

    • @dorottyacseresnyes2738
      @dorottyacseresnyes2738 Рік тому +1

      Hi!! The channel Anna's Analysis has a very good one hour long video on Anthony William!

  • @I_like_Plants130
    @I_like_Plants130 10 місяців тому +4

    I appreciate many of these comments. While I think some weren’t thought provoking. I do think many people opened my mind to the areas of gentrification people don’t really think/talk about. So thank you all!

  • @katieb3172
    @katieb3172 Рік тому +8

    First time watcher. This was great and very informative!!! Thank you!!😊

  • @picachugirl2036
    @picachugirl2036 Рік тому +24

    I may be wrong, but Ive always seen gentrification as a class issue and not specifically a race issue (although some races are definitely more likely to be in that situation). Gentrification affects all races, so long as the group is poor. Like I was in a neighborhood that was mostly poor white or hispanic folks, when I was little, now its an area catered to rich people only. People say it has "culture now" it has culture back then too though, it used to be a nice lil marriage between white and hispanic culture with gang activity added in as a flavor lol (nobody liked that part)

    • @prod.arcsyne2990
      @prod.arcsyne2990 9 місяців тому +1

      @sewerrat7418facts, disadvantage is a bitch, it’s like it’s harder for some people to build their lives because society broke down their families, and opportunities.

  • @jamieslacks
    @jamieslacks Рік тому +6

    Important to note that programs like Housing 4 All are cheaper and more efficient than our current methods of dealing with homelessness (police raids, property value etc.)

  • @blueturtle3623
    @blueturtle3623 Рік тому +54

    Robert, please for the love of God, caption your videos.

    • @sadmermaid
      @sadmermaid Рік тому +6

      Do you get automatic closed captions if you go into settings?? Sometimes UA-cam takes a while for them to be available, fwiw.

    • @larsiparsii
      @larsiparsii Рік тому +10

      Thank God that Robert has a very clear voice in his videos, the automatic CCs are almost always 100% correct! 🙂

    • @hind__
      @hind__ Рік тому +13

      People need to stop going "but auto captions"...

    • @Billibab
      @Billibab Рік тому

      @@larsiparsii For real I really appreciate his voice, he is such a clear speaker with such good pacing

    • @ville__
      @ville__ Рік тому +2

      Why does he need to have captions?

  • @larissabrglum3856
    @larissabrglum3856 Рік тому +23

    Thank you for addressing this misogyny in a nuanced way.

  • @joeblaster8770
    @joeblaster8770 Рік тому +7

    2:26 I wouldn't call Starbucks appealing.

  • @geekyogurtcup
    @geekyogurtcup Рік тому +2

    Right! This was really helpful, thank you 🙏

  • @ScoscobabyOGO
    @ScoscobabyOGO Рік тому +128

    Honestly, it gets so annoying hearing some black people blame certain types of white people for all of our problems, when most non-terminally online people are just trying to live their lives. I understand the frustration but so many people online have this “ if you’re not with us you’re against us“ mentality. The displaced anger is so unhelpful and makes it harder to build stronger communities.
    Edit: I’m posting my reply to someone else because I didn’t explain myself well in the original comment
    I just left a short comment and I knew because I didn’t fully explain myself people may take my comment as black people complain too much. My comment was a little bit of my frustration because I love my community and I want better for black people and Americans in general.
    At the time I was talking about the small amount of terminally online individuals that use every study and article to make talking points to defend their actions. Every community has these people.
    I was just saying the anger they harbor for white people is a little bit misguided ( I should have said your every day white person). For example that one white lady renting an apartment. When the anger should be at the city and anyone involved with making the projects happen. Learn more about them to try and stop more gentrification projects from happening in the future.

    • @TomikaKelly
      @TomikaKelly Рік тому

      Simple: join a different community. I hear Native Americans are looking for new inductees. That way you won't have to listen to Black people complain at all.

    • @pisceanbeauty2503
      @pisceanbeauty2503 Рік тому +23

      To be fair, intent doesn’t negate impact. People may just be “living their lives”, but their actions in aggregate can affect other people’s lives. I think there is space for discussing systemic causes as well as individual actions. Many people are not only moving into communities but are being openly dismissive and disrespectful to the people already living there. I’m not upset with people calling that out.
      I also think saying “some black people blame certain white people for all of our problems” is a mischaracterization of what many people are saying and gives me a certain “black people complain too much/unjustifiably” energy. Putting the blame for a lack of strong communities on many black people’s logical anger or frustration seems inhumane to me.
      I don’t disagree, though, that white women have specifically become a weird scapegoat for a lot of bad behavior also perpetrated by white men and others. These days, way more white people are calling women “Karens” regarding a broad range of behavior, versus the original intent of the word which dealt with certain bigoted behavior. That is more about misogyny than trying to address underlying issues.

    • @ScoscobabyOGO
      @ScoscobabyOGO Рік тому +5

      @@pisceanbeauty2503 I just left a short comment and I knew because I didn’t fully explain myself people may take my comment as black people complain too much. My comment was a little bit of my frustration because I love my community and I want better for black people and Americans in general.
      At the time I was talking about the small amount of terminally online individuals that use every study and article to make talking points to defend their actions. Every community has these people.
      I was just saying the anger they harbor for white people is a little bit misguided ( I should have said your every day white person). For example that one white lady renting an apartment. When the anger should be at the city and anyone involved with making the projects happen. Learn more about them to try and stop more gentrification projects from happening in the future.

    • @SuperMiIk
      @SuperMiIk Рік тому

      What are the certain types

    • @asterixandobelix195
      @asterixandobelix195 Рік тому

      ​​@Piscean Beauty
      Mischaracterization? Logical anger and frustration?
      Such as what? You are able to recognize that majorty of the Blk community's problems stem from within the community?
      C r i m e. Absentee fatherhood. Illiteracy. Unemployment rates. Rampant vapid behavior. None of this is a result of whatever systematic persecution you presume to be have been subjugated to.
      Particularly since numerous programs have been implemented, such as Affrimative Acrion and welfare to explicitly assist the Blk community.

  • @animaltaglits
    @animaltaglits Рік тому +1

    Cool video Robert Tolpi. Much respect.

  • @lunekosama
    @lunekosama Рік тому +24

    Gentrification is my friends, the children of immigrants, being forced to leave the only home they have known as their apartment buildings are bought up by developers only to be replaced with expensive townhouses.
    It’s watching vacant buildings rot for years behind chain link fences while the homeless swelter in the sun just across the street.
    It’s investing your last dollars into an RV because that at least grants you some shelter and mobility only for city council to outlaw them from parking on the street.
    It’s NIMBYs opposing the tiniest transitional housing to help the homeless get back on their feet, citing “think of the children”
    It’s passing by millions of vacant office space while working and disabled adults live in their cars.
    It’s below market rate studios being raffled off like a prize even though rent is still over 2k a month.
    It’s commuting for hours and hours in both directions to a job that pays well but costs so much more.
    It’s being The Help for the richest tech companies in the world and still barely making enough to live in the same town as them.
    The city has the final say on what gets built and where. The developers and landlords hoard property and displace the poor to build shiny new condos. This is all by design, ousting the working class is the point. That is your real enemy.
    Sincerely, a Silicon Valley native

    • @asterixandobelix195
      @asterixandobelix195 Рік тому +1

      You wrote so much as said nothing of importance... Wow.

    • @ms_cartographer
      @ms_cartographer Рік тому +2

      Also, NIMBY rich Karens blocking multi-family housing units, DV shelters, and transitional housing from being built for the sake of "preserving the character of the neighborhood".

    • @I_like_Plants130
      @I_like_Plants130 10 місяців тому

      @@asterixandobelix195you didn’t have to read it. I though it was beautiful.

    • @I_like_Plants130
      @I_like_Plants130 10 місяців тому

      Thought* I can’t fix my comment because every word overlaps when I enter editing mode. Grammar bugs me :\

    • @asterixandobelix195
      @asterixandobelix195 10 місяців тому

      @@I_like_Plants130
      Of course you did. You derive value from something trivial.

  • @merelymayhem
    @merelymayhem Рік тому +1

    absolutely excellent video

  • @Lz-rz3mn
    @Lz-rz3mn Рік тому +16

    I find this video really interesting, but i find myself wondering about the implications of these cheap housing options themselves. Do these lower costs sacrifice things like structural integrity, safety or quality? Are building these housing options even changing the root cause of gentrification? If targeting the cause of why these housing options have to be available to those who cannot afford the newer, more expensive residences, I believe the issue lies in the existence of that expensive housing itself. Hardly a new take, but i often worry about these solutions failing to address root causes of why people find themselves evicted or unable to afford rent where they live, like low minimum wage and limited access to other resources. Not only do we need to dismantle the stereotypes, but the systems themselves. Good video !!

    • @radiationshepherd
      @radiationshepherd Рік тому +6

      The housing is so expensive because it's high demand low supply due to corporate landlords buying up units and then new housing is specifically built to be "luxury" to maintain resale prices in the area. Has nothing to do with structural integrity

    • @Undeadsweater
      @Undeadsweater Рік тому +4

      No, the quality and safety of buildings is not at all the problem, and probably not even the top 50 as to why housing is unaffordable. It’s an issue of zoning laws and a handful of people owning most of the properties (therefore having most of the control). Poorly regulated capitalism, ya know?

    • @fanime1
      @fanime1 Рік тому +1

      There's an episode of Tuca and Bertie that discusses what goes into making affordable housing. It's in the last season (it was unfortunately cancelled), but honestly, I recommend watching the full show. There was nothing else like it.

  • @user-jf6et7ut7u
    @user-jf6et7ut7u 4 місяці тому

    I'm happy when the city invests in my community.

  • @isaiahhueyopa1583
    @isaiahhueyopa1583 Рік тому +15

    Starbucks-sipping white women 😂

  • @synths6953
    @synths6953 Рік тому +17

    Omg I’m first

  • @samanthabrotto1272
    @samanthabrotto1272 Рік тому

    Pat, I dig you❤

  • @theaudjob3267
    @theaudjob3267 Рік тому +12

    Thank you so much for talking about how misogynistic leftist spaces have become.

    • @theaudjob3267
      @theaudjob3267 Рік тому +3

      @sewer~rat there’s legitimately critiquing white feminism and then there’s what leftist spaces do, say horribly misogynistic shit but put “white” in front

    • @kevinc8955
      @kevinc8955 9 місяців тому

      @@theaudjob3267Black people hate white people, and that includes white women. They also hate Hispanics and Asians, and they especially hate Jewish people who they blame for nearly all of the evils in the world.
      Then again black people hate lighter shades of each other too.

    • @DADRB0B55
      @DADRB0B55 5 місяців тому

      Holding white women accordingly to their own racist or classist ideals (including liberal ones in fact I have meet more racist supposedly liberal yt white than conservatives) isn’t misogyny but of course like the white man did 100 years, you will use your privilege in society to discredit any troubles associated with POC or poor people

  • @MorganRimming
    @MorganRimming Рік тому +1

    Got my popcorn ready 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

  • @brisbreathing
    @brisbreathing Рік тому +1

    “For the price of two gentrifier lattes” sent me 😭

  • @I_like_Plants130
    @I_like_Plants130 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for pointing this out it’s been a while (thankfully) but I used see a bunch of people blaming or making “quirky jokes” about it (& other stuff too) being white women’s fault

    • @I_like_Plants130
      @I_like_Plants130 10 місяців тому +1

      It’s just not going to fix, or look at the actual/real problem, and like you said a excuse to be sexist. Even if they put white before saying it.

    • @I_like_Plants130
      @I_like_Plants130 10 місяців тому

      Honestly this type of behavior doesn’t end at just gentrification either. I herd it with other subjects too. I just hope other leftists see this too.

  • @paulsteel9127
    @paulsteel9127 8 місяців тому

    Gentrification can't happen without the banks.

  • @lumenknight5673
    @lumenknight5673 10 місяців тому +1

    Kick out the locals and set up shop

  • @VeraDragon
    @VeraDragon Рік тому +6

    I think your point about gentrification being synonymous with “nice” things is apt. Like I hear so much that a white woman running at night means your neighborhood has been gentrified. Which strikes me as odd, because neighborhoods being safe enough for women to run in at night is like objectively a good thing, but usually it doesn’t get expanded upon why this might be a bad sign. Affordable housing needs to be in place, and in safe places. Poverty and crime are intimately connected so it sucks how crime and poverty going down in areas synonymous with people of color being pushed out. Almost reinforces negative stereotypes by placating at criticism. It’s hard to know what a solution is to this besides spreading more info about what gentrification means and showcasing support for affordable housing and going against landlords. But it’s not in the cards to tell someone to not be mad at the whole woman running down the street, when she is a clear sign of the problems. So it seems hard to communicate where conversation should focus, without coming across as defensive.

    • @I_like_Plants130
      @I_like_Plants130 10 місяців тому +1

      I appreciate your comment you make an interesting view/side. Thank you.

    • @DADRB0B55
      @DADRB0B55 5 місяців тому

      Women are able to walk around in POC areas & not get assaulted, sounds. White = safe ? You just outed yourself also as a POC male we very uncomfortable around white women especially if they are by themselves. You remember Carolyn Brandt do you not ? More importantly we are not stupid & exactly know why your here. Your people never give a shit about what happens to displaced black or Hispanic often times elderly & deserve the right to not get taxed out of their homes

  • @locsoluv94
    @locsoluv94 Рік тому +30

    White men can catch this smoke, too. Trust and believe that our criticisms are not focused solely on white women. That meme was just one meme that showed one facet of a conversation we've been having for years.
    Yeah, the real problem is lack of (affordable) housing, but white people (of all genders) are still complicit. And black people certainly didn't make the system the way it is.

    • @RainSnowHail
      @RainSnowHail Рік тому +3

      Seriously, he says we’re making it about women when I literally commented that he is the spitting image of the people who move in

    • @93runninggiraffes
      @93runninggiraffes Рік тому +1

      From my understanding, Robert is criticising the chronically online (predominantly) white (predominantly) male "leftists" that use the topic of gentrification as a guise to just be misogynistic pricks (i.e., it's not even all white male leftists... just a select few of them). These are the same pricks that, for example, use the topic of transphobia to be misogynistic *cough*(Vaush)*cough*. E.g., any white dude with bisexual lighting that directs misogynistic vitriol at JK Rowling because she herself is an awful bigoted transphobe. These same people also like to disguise their racism in their "leftist" takes (i.e., will behave in a racist manner towards black people that happen to also be bigoted). E.g., any white dude with bisexual lighting that directs racist vitriol towards Kanye because he himself if an awful bigoted anti-black N*zi-loving idiot. I've put "leftist" in quotes here because it's these particular "leftists" that I don't really see as leftists because is seems like they just want "acceptable" ways to be bigots.

    • @sameash3153
      @sameash3153 Рік тому

      I'm going to be racist to all the black people moving into my neighborhood is this is your takeaway

    • @locsoluv94
      @locsoluv94 10 місяців тому

      ​@@sameash3153Are all the black people in your neighborhood jacking up rent and taxes to the point where the people already living in your neighborhood have to leave? Did black people create a system that continuously makes non-black people homeless?
      If your takeaway from my comment is that I don't like white people then you clearly didn't even watch the video. Cause the whole video is about gentrification.

    • @I_like_Plants130
      @I_like_Plants130 10 місяців тому

      Maybe you don’t, but majority of people only talk about white women doing it. That being said this line of thinking won’t fix the cause of the problem. There’s so many problems entangled within each other with this one. Like the housing crisis. Towns outside of cities doing suburban sprawl. Rent’s going up because of the owners, and more building’s being run by corporations which are connected to Wall Street. That sounds like a lot but that’s really only icing on the cake.

  • @Hero-up8hv
    @Hero-up8hv Рік тому +2

    dude companies like Zillow buy up all the properties sorry

    • @I_like_Plants130
      @I_like_Plants130 10 місяців тому

      He wasn’t criticizing you, and I agree with you for that matter. He was just saying blaming the effect of a problem won’t fix the cause of the problem.

  • @moracomole8090
    @moracomole8090 10 місяців тому

    i feel like gentrification wouldn't be a problem if they owned their own property.
    How can people partake in consumerism when they should save up for a deposit instead i dunno.

  • @Mr.Peetersen
    @Mr.Peetersen 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm a gentrifier.
    I've purchased old houses.
    Have a tool box
    Restored property
    Sold for a profit
    Also have hot white wife

  • @dontbeafool
    @dontbeafool Рік тому

    Make money. Embrace gentrification.

  • @chelseashamim9148
    @chelseashamim9148 Рік тому

    💕

  • @ms_cartographer
    @ms_cartographer Рік тому +18

    Exactly. Gentrification is mostly class-based. It doesn't just happen in inner-cities with just POC. It also happens to poor whites in trailer parks and in the burbs too. It's an issue for anyone who is poor regardless of race and gender.

    • @MegaGranni
      @MegaGranni Рік тому

      You know nothing of class politics. The majority of the upper class is WHITE! Most black people do not reach this social class. So tired of liberals thinking that class and race are separate. Newsflash it’s not, df.

    • @onedirectioninfection5756
      @onedirectioninfection5756 Рік тому +4

      @@MegaGranni the majority of the upper class being white doesn't apply to all countries though. a lot of huge, rich development companies & investors from china are currently gentrifying my very block and city which is 69% asian. simple 2 family homes are torn down, turned into mcmansions and split up into 4+ illegal 'apartments' rented to different families by chinese developers to wealthy chinese immigrants. the government is complacent, obviously, and promotes the development of my area, but people of color can also be gentrifiers, even when they're displacing people of their same race.

    • @MegaGranni
      @MegaGranni Рік тому

      @@onedirectioninfection5756 wow, so sorry that's happening in your neighborhood! I hate when these wealthy international developers grab up the homes and make it harder for the natives to afford rent let alone buy property. However, my point still applies. In the USA the majority of the upper class is white and trying to separate class+race is a losing game.

    • @onedirectioninfection5756
      @onedirectioninfection5756 Рік тому +2

      @@MegaGranni you are correct in your point, i just wanted to add that a lot of non-US companies and non-white immigrants are slowly starting to gentrify in some areas :/

  • @erisofterra8986
    @erisofterra8986 Рік тому +13

    My home county has been 100% developed land-wise for my entire adult life. I have been watching the gentrification slowly rot out the foundation of my communities in the legacy families and the historic buildings. One thing I can say for absolute certainty is that people of every race, gender, and even economic status are able to participate. I have witnessed a huge influx of companies buying up property just for the investment in the undeveloped areas around my county then building cheap high-rise "luxury" apartments that get filled up with remote workers taking advantage of their desperation rates and who don't spend money in the community . They just contribute to the zoning-out issue that happens to the surrounding, older neighborhoods.
    On the flipside I have been planning on moving to a place which so clearly suffers the mirror of this issue: the exodus. Anyone checked on the rustbelt lately? Stuff ain't looking so good when too many people move away, either.

    • @ville__
      @ville__ Рік тому +1

      Who cares+pronouns

  • @smithiscoming
    @smithiscoming Рік тому

    mix in a salad tolpmister

  • @blueischiii1575
    @blueischiii1575 Рік тому +2

    Gentrification has pros and cons, but ultimately the people selling the houses are the realtors, and they increase prices for profit.

  • @habeashumor9814
    @habeashumor9814 Рік тому +10

    Yup, same goes for calling women Karens. It singles women out as uniquely bad compared to men (impliedly), and that’s misogynistic.

    • @mchlle94
      @mchlle94 Рік тому +4

      100%. There are a lot more "Darrens" out there but no one's going after them in the same way. I've also seen people use "Karen" as a misogynistic slur for literally anything, I've even seen men call women of colour "Karens"

    • @jimkillerx
      @jimkillerx 11 місяців тому

      @@mchlle94 Because there's plenty of colored karens, especially black women.

  • @sinepari9160
    @sinepari9160 10 місяців тому +1

    So foreign entities interests (basically what trump wanted to stop lol) yet he was your enemy..

  • @RichardMitchell-nk9ec
    @RichardMitchell-nk9ec 5 місяців тому

    I'm a black landlord

  • @giggity2722
    @giggity2722 Рік тому +20

    robert, i love your videos, but you’re wrong about something here. there is enough housing. way more than enough actually. the issue is that landlords buy and control multiple properties, and by doing so they’re able to hold the price of housing wherever they want. if your landlord says rents higher this month, then rent is just higher. combine this with incredible economic inequality and unequal access to most institutions and you’ve got what the US has today.

    • @victoriawalker7792
      @victoriawalker7792 Рік тому +8

      There's a lot of housing... Where people don't want it. If you want to live in Scumblefuck Ohio then yeah there's loads of houses. If you want to live within a decent distance of work, where the people are, there's not that much.
      While landlords contribute massively to the housing shortage, the lack of building mid-high density is also a massive problem.

    • @sameash3153
      @sameash3153 Рік тому

      @Victoria Walker what's wrong with living in scrumblfuck Ohio? All of the big cities are literal hellholes in every possible way, there's no way living in the middle of the woods is worse than living in New York city

    • @tf7602
      @tf7602 Рік тому +1

      Honestly think both of you are right. Both are true and worsening the situation.

    • @I_like_Plants130
      @I_like_Plants130 10 місяців тому

      I think for the most part he was saying we aren’t actually looking at the real problem. Blaming white women won’t fix anything, but looking at the bigger picture will. With the housing problem there’s just so many layers and there all kinda connected to one another when it comes to the effects they cause.

  • @user-os3uw5qx4s
    @user-os3uw5qx4s Рік тому

    5:47 issa mood 💅

  • @carnationqueen
    @carnationqueen Рік тому +8

    this is SUCH a refreshing take - coming from a woman, lol

  • @feeshunter1508
    @feeshunter1508 7 місяців тому +1

    The biggest thing BP have failed at, was the chance of living a really lavish and wealthy lifestyle by simply taking care of the neighborhoods and homes they've inherited back in the old days from the rich white men who owned the homes before them. At least in the city where I live, these old homes are near the downtown area, which was once owned by really wealthy rich white men/families. Had BP not tore up these neighborhoods and the homes within and kept the neighborhoods safe/crime free and the usual, these homes would've gone up astronomically in value (due to the old history within), causing nearly every single BP in this part of the city to be wealthy.
    As we all know, home values tend to appreciate over time, but not when BP move in, once BP are in a home, the value decreases (instead of appreciating). BP themselves are the ones to blame for their own failure in life.

  • @skateroffortune
    @skateroffortune Рік тому +2

    Anybody else see Elton John

  • @Mr.Peetersen
    @Mr.Peetersen 4 місяці тому +1

    Don't let you're neighborhood become a dump to begin with .

  • @PedroMRDS
    @PedroMRDS Рік тому +5

    But its okay to be misogynistic as long as you put "white" in front of "women" :D

  • @jitterrypokery1526
    @jitterrypokery1526 Рік тому +3

    I love robert tolppi because I know whenever he uploads, I'm going hear some of the most generalized and anti-provoking statements for the day

  • @kevinc8955
    @kevinc8955 9 місяців тому

    Whyt ppl bad tho.

  • @elf9064
    @elf9064 Рік тому +11

    some times people just want to laugh at memes. Whether or not you think white women are the cause of gentrificatioin, the funny part is that the white woman is the canary in the goldmine of what's to come. A white gay couple moved into my area recently. The entire block is talking about it because 1. they stick out and 2. white gay couples are known to live in nice areas...so what are they doing here? Gentrification. It's terrifying, but we're just going to laugh about how they're our canaries.
    I don't care about the online discourse, I just think people should not take the (funny) memes too seriously. It's jokes.
    My personal solution is the US banning foreign investors from owning any housing property in our country. Priority to citizens living in our countries, then sell property to non citizens for business.

  • @ohhadivist
    @ohhadivist Рік тому +3

    I'm so against the Karen phenomenon. It's played a big part in making general misogyny cool again.

  • @valstrom7672
    @valstrom7672 Рік тому

    What if u removed the other p from ur surname ?? 🥰

  • @Winspur1982
    @Winspur1982 Рік тому +7

    Basically, you're right. But I do dispute your point about white women not having all that much power in the 'grand scheme of things.' That's a pretty pathetic excuse for not voting or getting engaged in politics, as many white women still do. It also sounds like something Melania, or Clarence Thomas's wife, would say to excuse her behavior.
    (I'm a gay white male who moved into a diverse working-class neighborhood so I am adjacent to the cartoon villains in this narrative)

    • @asterixandobelix195
      @asterixandobelix195 Рік тому

      Politics? What Politics? Where people like you continually condemn white people for the failures of others?

    • @asterixandobelix195
      @asterixandobelix195 Рік тому +4

      Amd this "diverse working class neighborhood".
      Could you please delineate the demographics?

    • @Winspur1982
      @Winspur1982 Рік тому +1

      @@asterixandobelix195 Pilsen, Chicago. You can research it yourself.

    • @asterixandobelix195
      @asterixandobelix195 Рік тому +6

      @@Winspur1982
      The data demonstrates that it is a predominantly White and Hispanics neighborhood, with a trickle of Asian and Black.
      That is not being diverse.

    • @mchlle94
      @mchlle94 Рік тому +1

      Can you back this up with data please?

  • @DendyJungle
    @DendyJungle Рік тому +6

    I like Robert usually but I love when he makes videos like this and reminds us he is our class enemy. He will always defend his upper class interests when it comes down to it.

  • @malegria9641
    @malegria9641 Рік тому +1

    You’ve never been priced out of your home, have you?

    • @Beepboop6669
      @Beepboop6669 Рік тому +33

      We HAVE to stop doing this. Forcing people to publicly state their hardships so we can judge if they’re authentic enough is terrible, it’s abusive, and it’s not even a way of determining if an argument is accurate. Please stop doing this.

    • @victoriawalker7792
      @victoriawalker7792 Рік тому +9

      The problem with this as a question is that many people who you view as being "gentrifiers" have already been priced out of their homes. The (comparably) affluent renters this video is about tend to move to these areas because they can't make enough money in their field to afford a place where they grew up (which we can argue is their home.)
      The problems of gentrification go all the way, you know? There's nowhere I can afford a 1 bed flat in my city (because they don't exist) so I have to live in a 4-bed houseshare, which could house one of the families in the area if it wasn't so expensive.

    • @kittykittybangbang9367
      @kittykittybangbang9367 Рік тому +3

      "I have food on my plate, so where's world hunger?"

  • @RainSnowHail
    @RainSnowHail Рік тому +1

    bro you look like a gentrifier

    • @blueischiii1575
      @blueischiii1575 Рік тому +3

      Aren’t the realtors selling the houses at an overprice the gentrifiers?

  • @dankhelmet9973
    @dankhelmet9973 11 місяців тому

    It’s Pat!