Copyright Smuggling | The YouTube Copyright Metagame pt. 2
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- Опубліковано 20 лис 2019
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Part 1: • The UA-cam Copyright ...
Part 3: • Copyright Law is a Jok...
Featuring Internet Historian: / @internethistorian
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This one took two months but I'm gonna try to get the next one out much sooner, stay tuned!
EmpLemon oh good I was worried that you got two lame old ads on this whole ass video
Is there a place I CAN watch your YTP? It's a real shame they removed them, its history.
what editing software do you use? i'm just starting out.
this has absolutely nothing to do with the video but good news ua-cam.com/video/j4v7hkS-ktk/v-deo.html
I made my musical videos with copyrighted stuff, only have claimed two times.
2009: _Broadcast yourself_
2019: _Broadcast for our advertisers_
2029: Broadcast absolutely nothing at all!
Not related but I love your profile pic!
@@phantomgrape Thanks : )
2030: Submit to broadcasting SFW gaming videos on Pornhub because they are unfortunately looking like a viable competitor to youtube...yeah. I'm thinking about it.
Good thing coppa is going to make it so no one can upload in a few months
ssshhhhh don't tell people about my videogame music exploit
TierZoo They really give your videos some of that special something.
yeah
I forgot that youtubers know about each other
YO!!!!!
VGM actually makes sense considering you usually talk about the natural world in the context of a giant MMO.
I used the content ID system to identify a song for a buddy. Couldn't find it on shazam, so uploaded the audio to youtube and within an hour got claimed.
I tried doing that with this: ua-cam.com/video/xfNleO8y0B0/v-deo.html but it didn't work. Maybe it would work if a much bigger UA-camr used said song.
pro gamer move
@@reddor yeesh that's pirating though
Big brain move
@@reddor Okay, so lemme get this straight. In an era where no one pays for music, there were people willing to pay for a stolen bootleg of a song by an indie artist? That's weird as hell.
2007: Broadcast Yourself
2012: Broadcast Yourself playing Minecraft
2018: Broadcast Jimmy Kimmel
2019:
2020:
2021: wwweeeeee!! woowweewoowo! oh yeah yeah weeooo!! yeah WOOO!!
2022: Your comment has been taken down and you have been reported to your friendly Chinese Communist Party inspector.
2021: [Comment mysteriously redacted without warning due to illegal opinion]
@@KonEl-BlackZero 2023: This comment has been removed due to mentioning events that DID NOT happen.
"Do you support copyright smuggling"
Emp: "The law requires that I answer no"
"cUz tAHts HOw teH law WoRks."
@@shg45
UA-cam help in a nutshell.
"YoU bRokE tHe lAw, sO deSerVe 2 b cLaiMed
*the secret ingredient is c r i m e*
youtube content ID...
...is like an enormous cl-yes! precisely.
@@Prep5242 mesh together
2016: IT'S NEVER OGRE
2019: *WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY. GAMERS RISE UP.*
TVBForever it’s still it’s never ogre cuz it’s never ogre
Shrek: It ain't ogre 'till I say it's ogre.
WeegeeSlayer ye
just because it's ogre doesn't mean it's really ogre and if I think it ogre maybe I'll be coming ogre again
- Katy Perry
It's never a society, Ogres rise up
I had negotiated commercial music usage with some musician in the past, years later all the videos we used his music in were claimed by a record company he signed with years later. Apparently they completely disregarded my agreement with the musician AND the artist himself never responded to us after that.
Wow
Happened to mumbo jumbo with his intros
You should've named and shamed the asshole.
Moral of the story - steal it anyway
In that case, the record company is in breach of contract and you should sue them!
Praise saint-kevin Macleod, bringer of peace amongs mortals
*Durr Plant Intensifies*
*amongst
praise otis mcdonald and many others too
dat Stalin boi was handsome
@@nightsbane5207 the tsarist's commie detectors are flaring up, i see
Fun fact: Mr beast was copyright claimed for saying ‘we’re half way there’ and not even to the tune of the song
We need to file a class action lawsuit against Warner and Universal for repeatedly and illegally falsely copyright claiming people. The street goes both ways and its a crime when they do it too.
source?
edit: checks out, twitter.com/MrBeastYT/status/1095028298931949570
squidward on a chair
@@Jaydoff yeah we need something like the H3H3 lawsuit on a 100x bigger level
I doubt its gonna happen tho, too much money and coordination required
Jaydoff
We can only hope big UA-camrs, the ones with the money, will take action. Like Pewdiepie or similars. But I don’t think anyone is willing to go to court with fucking Warner Music, etc.
"240p quality isn't exactly ideal".
Meanwhile, I'm sitting here watching this video in 144p.
144p is the true way to watch an emp video
same
Saves data
@Team Stellar UA-cam Kids
@Team Stellar FBI, OPEN UP!!
And finally we have the answer: "Why are the Simpsons green?"
Do you mean the sampsins
Moniker Handle they’re also the same color as the downward spiral
To avoid a copyright strike, that's why.
@@lovelydolltime8006 No way bro, I didn't realise!
don’t you mean the walking, talking, barely thinking grass blocks?
9:50 Oh so THAT'S how CinemaSins can get away with posting 25 minutes of movie footage, by assembling it from quick cuts.
He also reuploads like 10 of his claimed vids a week
Also, youtube's a net where the big fish go free while the small fry get tangled up.
blizzardregulus isnt that the opposite of an actual net?
Lillildipsy .-. Here is a better analogy
UA-cam is a net that ensures that the big fish are safe and secure, while the small fry are left behind in the trench of copyright abuse.
Lillildipsy .-. Lmfaooo “aint that the opposite of an actual net” im dead
remember when those guys got copyright claimed for humming the halo theme in a mens bathroom ?
@@holaamigos559 i think he was joking my guy
@Stephen Kohl i am a disgrace
Yet another reason to hate youtube and its aggressive content ID system.
No
This can happen now. Apparently covers are illegal. Also speaking the lyrics to a song
UA-cam reading how to piss off everyone ? Lmao they wrote it
UA-cam is actually just trying to learn how to read there though. It has no idea wtf that book says. UA-cam can't be held legally responsible for anything because it's just a babby, an youtubekids. Google, take me to spiderman elsa.
my favorite comment lmao
Asoivel Muidragniw they were checking to make sure they used all their own best methods.
Just to add to how hard it is to not have music copyright claimed, I've had MY OWN PERFORMANCES of public domain classical music copyright claimed before
Yeah because UA-cam assumes that it's the copyrighted performance of the music
Bruh rip
Thats sad
Same thing happened to me livestreaming on facebook lol
2009: broadcast yourself
2019: we live in a society
I'm the 100th like
the fact that the pastebin says "rusty cage background music" is peak comedy
Isn't Rusty Cage a part of the Road Rash soundtrack?
Ah a man of culture as well i see nice to see a fellow cage fan lol
@@djartyom1243 Rusty Cage is pretty awesome, especially his songs.
Here's a fun one that Soundcloud mashup artists use to avoid their tracks being taken down; take the track and pitch it up or down by a decimal and stretch it out by a millisecond, it will sound exactly the same but the bots won't pick up the original songs
❤️ thank you brother.
Cheers for the advice!
Unfortunately this doesn't always work. There are videos that have altered songs to a much further degree (reversing it, pitching it down/up by several decimals, altering the speed by over 25%, etc) that are starting to get detected.
It's almost as if they're improving the bots to try and get around content creators methods. Though this also leads to false claims happening (like when Mr. Beast got claimed by some record label for simply yelling "yeah" and the bots thought it was Journey or something).
The only example I can think of at the moment is Pewdiepie's recent Dr. Phil video. He distorted the video AND audio of the clips he used and still got copyright claims. Of course this could also just be a case of the copyright holders actually manually claimed the video because they saw it.
Also take this comment with a grain of salt because I'll admit I haven't yet watched this video lol
@@UOAPlays Highly Unlikely
Considering that Companies rarely watch the whole videos
Ironically, the reason why you don't see the "you wouldn't steal a car" video is apparently because they used copyrighted music.
Wikipedia links to a source that says that isn't true though. So I assume it's pretentious bullshit. Like when QI says things that are blatantly untrue in an attempt to sound smart and obscure, but actually just undermines its own concept.
@@seanseanstonThere's a chance that both sides could be wrong so that's why I said apparently because I'm not 100% sure on details.
@@seanseanston It's not pretentious, it's just a funny meme even if it's not true. There are several real examples of companies using blatantly copywritten material or stealing from people they know couldn't fight back.
@@amentco8445 Ya, I guess so. Legal systems seem corrupt that way but I suppose it's also hard to see exactly how to fix it.
Always feels weird replying to comments from several years ago, but I'll do it anyway :0
@@amentco8445 *Pooh's Adventures of the SpongeBob SquarePants Movie being acknowledged in a live-action Nickelodeon show*
One time I got a copyright strike on a video of mine.
Why? Because it included the state anthem of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. In case you didn't know, the USSR national anthem has been public domain for *DECADES.*
🦀 *Public Domain is fucking dead* 🦀
@@Sonichero151 For music that is. For Western animation? NOPE!
its kinda ironic have a copyright claim from a national anthem(who get the revenue? the state?), even more from a country that doesnt exist anymore and EVEN MORE from a comumunist nation
@@deco90014 Well, the Russian government didn't claim it. Their copyright law explicitly states all Soviet iconography and anthems are in the public domain. I think what happened was a performance credit.
probably some company pretending that they owned the song that has happend many times
Ah yes, Emp Lemon and Internet Historian unite once again.
WeegeeSlayer two gods
When does he show up
Aswell as uhhh Jungle Jimmy, that other guy chancellor susan killed?
17:10 he shows up
I'm only interested in free speech on youtube if it allows me to kill Furries without having to pay a hunting tax~
TIP FOR MASKING INSTRUMENTALS: If you want to obfuscate the instrumental track you're using in order to bypass copyright, add an EQ to the track and clip out as much of the high and low frequencies as you feel comfortable with, then add some record static. I've found this to be fairly effective in multiple occasions, adding a small pitch shift doesn't hurt either!
Shittyflute
Hell, Using Invert/EQ, you could take out or muffle the drums from a track. Obviously how good it sounds after that depends entirely on the track.
Another neat trick you could use. If your sound source is stereo ( in most cases it is ) you can null out and remove the 'center channel' fairly simply.
The center channel consists of content that is equal amplitude on both the left and right sides of the audio.
Things like bass drum, snare and the main vocals. It really depends on the decisions made during the mix process, so your mileage may vary.
To remove the center channel, you first need to make two mono tracks from the original stereo track. I'm not sure if you can use Audacity for this, but I know that you can do this with Ardour. Ardour is free and open source software.
Take your two mono tracks, time align them and reverse the polarity of one of the tracks. Everything that was once panned to the center now disappears. To bring back portions of the audio that is nulled out, add an equalizer to one of the tracks.
To bring the kick drum back, use a high pass filter. This keeps the low end from canceling out during the summing process.
Hope this helps
@@MDHaughton this is really neat advice, I'll try this out for myself next chance I get. Thank you!!!
@@null447
It's the same technique you could use for making a karaoke song as well (just for removing vocals) . I used this trick for a wedding years back, yielding decent results.
This tool can be used to de-mix a song, to separate out the audio files. Works best on acoustic tracks.
github.com/deezer/spleeter/blob/master/README.md
Another deep tale from the internet:
So i was looking for copyright free music content; and downloaded a bunch of songs. Turns out the guy who uploaded that content used the "free copyright" title as an excuse to make people download his actual copyright content and then claim it. So i made my coffe; scratched my cats; opened my lap top and added an undertale song instead.
That guy is a full on monster that needs to be obliterated from the very universe ASAP.
Extreme Wreck 2000 indeed.
that guy is part of the problem
Does anyone know the asshole Internet Historian was talking about from 17:04- 19:10?
I want to pirate (*except not really because Creative Commons licenses can't be removed from music/photos/videos/etc. you attach them to*) all of his music out of spite.
pretty sure that just means he lost the rights to his material if he was straight up claiming it was copyright free. Anybody could sue his @ss and win.
@@ExtremeWreck No, but realistically he *DOES* need to be charged with fraud and sued.
When people in an environment as public as the internet are finding ways to "smuggle" content into their videos, while the platform they are uploading to itself is trying to stop that, it's a clear sign that the current copyright system no longer works and needs to be thought over.
I still get claims for 5 seconds and less of audio.
ouch
24 likes and 1 reply, time to make my appearance!
That sucks
Shouldn’t be using other peoples work
Companies shouldn't abuse fair use
That Joker impression was still better than Onision.
Digging through sewage with your bare hands is better than experience
Don't forget Jared Leto
*Onion
Yeah I just whistle music that I want to use
wtf u should be making funny cs compilation not watching youtube poops
You should make a music covers channel Franz
Imagine if Sony music claims that
cheezball03 is here!!!
>:) kill
As a musician, I like to just mark my stuff as "yes, you can use it"
Most important part to me is that someone's hearing it.
This is even more meta especially with COPA
*COPPA
Mea COPPA, Mea COPPA, Mea Maxima COPPA.
ya
@@labrynianrebel More like COPPR - since that's the law that revised COPPA back in 2013.
As a channel who’s been posted a lot of copyrighted content for years now, I guess I’ll pitch in and tell what I have learned:
I’ve never been a fan of royalty-free music (hate it, in fact), so I’ve found some good alternative sources for copyright-free music:
-Video game soundtracks (almost always claim free, rare exceptions)
-Mixtapes (Most times claim free, if it’s not on Spotify, that’s a good sign)
-Bootlegs/unreleased demos (most times copyright free, good luck finding them though)
-Remixes/covers/fan recreations/instrumentals (Sometimes works, risky, works better for songs that aren’t super well known)
-some songs slowed down actually sound better (especially if it’s a genre like Drill and Bass)
-Some ‘self-released’ music isn’t copyrighted on UA-cam (such as music by Lil Ugly Mane)
-Live versions of songs (Sometimes works if the live performance you use isn’t very well known, Peel sessions are also great for this)
Generally, if a song posted on youtube is copyrighted, you can look at the bottom of the video description and you will often see a song listed (this doesn’t apply if you’re on an [Artist - Topic] channel, when a song gets copyrighted on UA-cam, those videos are automatically uploaded)
Now, as I am a channel that deals in sports content, that’s an area I’ll also cover:
NFL - at least 15-20 seconds and your video will be claimed within a week, if not, right away
MLB/NBA/NHL - In my experience, if it’s not claimed right away it most likely won’t get claimed at all (be careful with NBA though, channels that post full highlights of games have been known to get terminated)
College Football - At least 10 seconds and you’re claimed within 24 hours, case sensitive though, as multiple different companies own the broadcast rights to college football, so sometimes you may never get claimed.
International sports (such as Soccer and Olympics) - Extremely case sensitive, don’t know much about this field as I do not post it often.
Sports shows (such as Sports Center) - If you post full top 10 countdowns, your channel can get terminated (RIP Mespin & TheMagicMan), but if you include a short bit of a countdown, your video will most likely not get claimed.
You almost never receive full-on copyright strikes for uploading sports broadcast clips. Unless, of course, you upload the full broadcasts.
Edit: Some of the stuff I said in this comment was already explained in the video, maybe I shouldn’t stop at 15 minutes in to type my comment, whoops
Still, for some of these, I heard people get their ''vaporwave'' claimed, because some of the obscure sourced songs have copyright or they are already parodying another song. tricky subject.
>Lil Ugly Mane
W
Savage Brick Sports : I love your shit dude.
And this is why I sample video game music for hip hop beats.
"Just like driving 5 miles over the speed limit..."
Texans: Those are rookie numbers!
Either Texas because the land is lawless or California because the laws are bullshit
Wow, Copyright Deadlock is the coolest and most petty thing. I love the idea of cramming in so many copyrighted content so nobody gets the money. I'm now going to do this in all my videos, I was never planning to make a profit off them anyways, I just want them to be watched. :D thanks Emp
And now we wait for Emp’s word on Coppa here
Lightning Cayo
the vid better be called “coppa deez nuts”
Surprisingly, he said that it's actually going to he a good thing, he said so on his Twitter.
@@ZSquaredPlusC what?!
Coppa-cabanana
Mandel Brot A good thing for people who mature content, kid content is fucked.
Never forget the Nintendo music copyright attack of 2019
*silvagunner flashback*
Rest in peace for Brawl, he'll be missed
a lot of gilva's vids are still blocked
Poor Brawl
@@TheKingOfNachosTM
But SiIva's channel was taken down by Sony, right?
I've seen people compose their own original music only for it to get claimed.
Seriously?
God help you if your original song has a chord progression that sounds similar to any song ever released.
Which of course is practically impossible to avoid.
happened to me a long time ago
They used copyrighted notes and copyrighted beat
The image by image technique is actually really neat, the first time I watched your wwe video I thought it was just an artistic choice
The way he did it really looked like he knew how to make it look incredible.
I've once heard.
From the lowest of low.
A method that I have realized how broke back mountain the system is.....
*Copyright claiming your own videos so they can't steal all ya money.*
SALE OFFER!
Commit one copyright claim on yourself!
Get two more outta nowhere, for free!
(Sale started since 2018 by UA-cam)
Was it "Le power wolf man"?
10:06 literally every one of my videos
@RebelTaxi oh hi didn't expect you here
lol
There he is
No 2:02 is every one of your videos
(Except that one video with Mavis dubbed with your voice on how thirsty you are for Goth Girls, yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!)
13:56 - I got hit with the same thing for sampling the audio of a NASA probe beeping. Some jackass used it in a song so they claim they own it now.
ah, bro that was you? mb dude mb...
Whoever used that probe beeping in their song should be forced to pay $1000 to NASA. Also reminds me of that one jerk who decided to make a crappy song using "Never Gonna Give You Up" as the beat.
@@ExtremeWreck NASA has explicit guidelines for using their material. My song was well within the guidelines. Things that NASA releases to the public are generally public access and are free to use, as long as you meet their basic guidelines. All of there materials are bought and paid for using tax funds. As such their work essentially belongs to the public and their guidelines convey that same spirit. It is also illegal to copyright claim NASA's work. It is nothing like blatantly ripping off another artist. I wasn't being copyright claimed by NASA. I was being claimed by a music company that owned a completely unrelated song.
If a game soundtrack is copyrighted, then theres a good chance that the game is copyrighted too because gameplays would get copyrighted claimed because of the music being played in the background of the game
Well, you just predicted the earthbound sony crisis **slowly claps**
@@watchlatertv wut
@@urielc918 Ok it's a bit long to explain. Practically, a few weeks ago, sony music entertainment japan had begun to copyright claim all the videos that contained the earthbound ost (if you do not know what earthbound is look on wikipedia because it is definitely too long to explain it to you) blocking all videos that contained the game's music. The problem is that being the ost from a video game then this was going to include ALSO the gameplays of the game, which in fact were blocked or claimed within a few days. Rechecking recently I noticed that things are returning to normal, with videos of the ost being visible again or copyright claims being withdrawn, although there are still some videos blocked.
@@watchlatertvi know earthbound samples music, but it’s mostly the Beatles and one song from Monty Python’s Flying Circus, and I’m pretty sure they don’t have the rights to strike videos that use either of those.
@@watchlatertv i just looked through every song in this video: ua-cam.com/video/E_oc9Ypcb2Q/v-deo.html, and almost every song here was copyrighted by UMG.
Another example of just how insidious the music copyright is on UA-cam: Pyrocynical had an outro song by Whitewoods, a vaporwave internet group who samples copyrighted music to make their vaporwave music. Sony claimed the song and all 500+ of his videos with 15 seconds of the music at the end got claimed, making his entire channel copyrighted.
If you're gonna be a smuggler you have to keep in mind variety is dangerous (more chances of getting copyrighted) but so is uniformity - using the same thing in all of your videos makes it so if that gets detected, now you have multiple copyrights to worry about.
So... like cdawgva's copyright problem, pholla's do it for love gets claimed even if you have the licence
Happened to Mumbo too a while back, and in an unsurprising display of UA-cam's incompetence, Matt Lowne's intro as taken from the UA-cam Copyright Free Library.
What a fantastic algorithm!
ɪᴍᴀɢɪɴᴀʀʏꜰᴀɴʙoʏ just like genetics!
Content ID needs to end! All music should be safe for use. ALL OF THEM!
I feel like at that point, it’s cheaper and safer to pay someone to produce a 15 second outro for you, especially if you’re going to recycle it for multiple videos.
Yes, the copyright system itself is incredibly outdated, originally made nearly a century ago and updated decades before the widespread use of the internet. But until lawmakers change the rules... why not just pay a small fee to use the music?
(Again, this is just specifically for the outro, I realize it’d be pretty expensive to pay for multiple different trackers per video)
We are all clowns, and we live in a society
bottom text
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@@harraldaguilar9164 *wheeze*
@@wehatetimmy see u in jail pardtner
"We live in a society, but we live in it TOGETHER"
21:40
Line hits different now that Gilvasunner got killed by Nintendo
Imagine using a song by Beethoven and it gets copyright claimed by a record label.
When's he dropping by LA, I really want to go to one of his concerts.
There's this music group called Shibayan Records that got their own music copyright striked by someone who made a remix of the song
And then your counter claim falls on deaf ears
EmpLemon is like drug.
You want more, and when you can get some, you're first there.
@Alyssa Richardson I used to mix Emp and dope for the perfect s🅱️eed🅱️all
Wait a minute, Emp got claimed for saying "who lives in a pineapple under the sea."
Yes I think so. People have gotten claimed for humming lyrics to a song so saying the lyrics of the song would probably count as crooked as it sounds.
Jokes on us, memes are already banned on youtube.
people tried to make "happy birthday" copyrighted
everyone singing it in birthday parties would have to pay
drenn happy birthday is copyrighted they just couldn’t actually charge or claim people for singing it in person.
Go ahead and upload a video of you singing the original happy birthday song on UA-cam. You’ll see they still copyright strike that.
drenn so it begins...
Everyone claiming copyright of everything to everybody.
No one paying and everybody in debt...
"so i owe royalties to the rap group?" LMAOing at the implication that any aspect of copyright law or yt's claim system benefits the actual artists of any of these works. it's the faceless labels and monolithic corporations who seize ownership of their art that are causing all this exhausting bullshit (i mean, literally, they're the ones with the resources to pay lobbyists to make sure copyright law gets as fubar as it is in the first place)
The copyright deadlock still makes me smile on the inside.
Every UA-camr has an audience. I feel like EmpLemons audience is UA-camrs.
Correct!
Same with Nerd City, if not even more so: he uploaded some good tutorials for creators and showed the inner workings of UA-cam, so it's likely that part of his audience is also other youtubers.
Nerd City
@@nob2243 true
I normally don't care much about copyright issues on UA-cam since they don't personally concern me but EmpLemon's videos are always so well made I still watch them even if the topic isn't interesting lol.
"click off this add and I'll make the FTC fine you 42,000$"
I'm here waiting for him to make a whole video rant about the COPPA situation....
hoping for a quicky tbh
@@tostie3110 Look at his twitter
I did a Kingdom Hearts lets play, on the first episode, I got copyright striked by disney for making a joke using the disney theme, I didn’t even steal it, I sung it myself because I am crap at editing. After that, I gave up on being a UA-camr because I didn’t want to deal with it or possibly get sued
It’s boutta get so much worse here on UA-cam.
It's the beginning of the end
Osamu Sato's original LSD soundtrack got claimed by another random artist.
20:53 and that's why you guys hear so much Undertale, Pokemon, Mario and Nintendo songs on YT videos and I don't mind at all because they are a jam!
Lmfao the silent shot of the Star Wars theme video with "film scores are also at risk of this" had me in stitches
This wouldn’t be a EmpLemon video without a Anthony Fantano reference
or spongebob or green simpsons
Emperor Lemon's YTPs: Are we a joke to you?
@@knightwing5169 nobody watches poops no more
@@hanseldsilva2393 you sir, have made an incorrect comment
@@nicknamesarepointless5770 sorry
Great video emp but you forgot the best way of smuggling music past content ID. Mashups, key and BPM matched. Video game music tends to make the best matches because they're nearly all instrumentals.
I forgot about nightcore as a genre too on youtube, literally just speed up the music, slam nightcore on the title and get 44 million views.
“Is that the real Peterscraps?”
~demoknight tf2
14:50
>corrupting a song to that extent defeats the purpose
2011 called, they say otherwise
22:48 I was not expecting that smash bros documentary clip, you are truly a man of culture.
The Arist Niel Ciceraga, had to take the song "When he died" taken out of the Album Spirit Phone's upload on youtube, because it sounds similar another song, even though its his own unqiue creation and has been sincearound 2012.
Its pretty bad if a song can just get removed because some more popular person used a similar tempo or something and claimed you stole it
That's pretty wild considering he is the same guy who used to make mash ups of popular songs. Though Lemon Demon ACTUALLY is original material. I didnt know this though. My minds slightly blown. Neil is amazing.
The God of the internet himself doesn’t deserve this
When I was like 7 or 8 I made an original composition in Mario Paint called "Starlight Casino." It turned out Sony Music also had a song called "Starlight Casino", and my music got copyright claimed solely because the title was the same and they assumed it was their song. Thankfully, they rescinded the claim after someone actually checked it out and realized it wasn't even the same song
I don't want to be rude, but you made a error. It is Neil, not Niel.
Sad thing is this isn't exclusive to youtube. There have been multiple occasions in the music industry where artists/publishers have sued other artists under the accusation of their song too 'similar' to theirs.
isn't that the guy who only says "downward spiral", like a stroke victim, in real life?
Hold up, WHAT?!
@@dragonempress8367 It's a reference to a Mumk- I mean a Simian Jimmy video.
What are you talking about? EmpLemon originally made videos called UA-cam Poops. A community of people who made these kinds of videos has been around for a while. Emp found enormous success with breakthroughs like the Uncredibles and Frying Nemo, but those in the UA-cam Poop community began to resent Emp, and a hostile relationship developed. Eventually, some creator that Emp really respected put out a statement saying that "EmpLemon has been on a downward spiral mentally, and now he's lost it completely." Emp turned this around and made it his catchphrase. It's not a reference to any real-world person who only says downward spiral.
@@benjamin_burke ...and just like that, right over you head. xD
@@player-8740 /R/wOWOOosH1 bOOMER!
As a music nerd, Emp has indeed gained my respect for bringing up Casiopea.
I hope he decides to use Thibault's _Aquadingen_ at some point. Love that song
always love when i hear an 8 bit version of ELP or Deep Purple start playing in these
What a fucking outstanding creator
Creates high quality documentaries on interesting subjects ✔
Is entertaining in general ✔
Cares about other creators ✔
Cares about the platform ✔
Quality over quantity ✔
Is one of the wisest creators on the website? ✔
Has understanding of meme culture and internet culture in general ✔
Is badass ✔
Thank you for the content you have given us. Much appreciated, and is really getting me through this quarantine
Then coppa comes along and makes this look like a joke
Why you here
@@ppioneer1417 emplemon lol
@@fishproductions22 im telling dannyb 🗿
They can try, but machines will always have their limits.
@@ppioneer1417 ok....
For my videos I began using my own custom-made 8-bit chiptune remixes of songs arranged in FL Studio, but sadly it's not entirely effective: one of my LEGO tutorials got claimed because of chiptune covers of '90s grunge songs in the background - and worse, another video got claimed for using a chiptune remix of a public domain classical song from the 19th century. For the latter copyright claim, UA-cam said my 8-but cover of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" belonged to Disney, so I had to provide links to the Wikipedia article about the song being in the public domain and how the composer wrote it well over a century ago. I eventually got the video restored with the claim removed after a week or so. But anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing my 8-bit chiptune remix of the Downward Spiral theme in your next video!
I feel they would claim songs for using a note that the other one used, not even the same context or pitch, just "You used E, i'm sorry pal"
That's actually a scary thing to hear about. Disney is really scummy, and has been trying to prolong the period during which the author gets royalties and the rights of the work belong to them (and after which, said work goes to Public Domain). In fact, they've been gradually doing this since the 1950's, by relentlessly lobbying the lawmakers - first they got it changed from 35 to 50, and then to 70 years.
These bills and legal acts were first introduced with the right intent - to make sure, that the author and owner of intellectual property would get paid for their work... But if you ask me, making this _"copyright protection period"_ even longer makes no sense at all, because the work in question would've been copyrighted for much longer, than that author could possibly even be alive. In other words, the copyright would then outlive the creator by orders of magnitude - but who knows. I mean, at this point, there's no telling what Disney is gonna do next.
I almost couldn't tell whether this was some sort of ironic hyperbole. It almost madden me that these policies are in place the way they are. Absolute horseshit!
I think you're lucky anyway since I've heard in many videos that appeals and other ways of reaching out amount to nothing if you don't have the proper connections.
Yep, can confirm, it can detect a chiptune covers as well
20:41 THERE I AM GARY THERE I AM
Ayo how did ye do dat
8:20 I really like the way the music continues from the reaction video into the background of yours
I feel like something that's overlooked is that if you DO fall within fair use and get claimed anyway, you will (eventually) win the dispute and the revenue rights to your video.
But by then, it will be too late.
Older videos don't make as much revenue as newer videos.
You know, once UA-cam gets back to you after 3 century’s
that is, if they get back to you at all
So say you got the ad money for a one million view claimed, do you have to give back the ad money?
@@owenbunny4023 You would only give back the money made in the last 28 days.
The issue with that is that copyright disputes are rarely decided by who was actually in right, but who has more money to pay the lawyer. And with corporations literally employing teams of lawyers, it becomes basically impossible to out-sustain them. You get stuck in a Catch-22 where even if you fight back and somehow beat whatever music label is fucking you over you end up broke because lawyers charge exorbitant amounts of money.
“Most game creators don’t care to copyright claim their music*
*cries in three houses*
Nintendo is known as being hostile towards video creators.
They seem to have mostly given up because of the sheer volume of people posting the OST anyway, not to mention the “this is definitely not” videos which are probably slightly less detectable. Honestly just downloading the soundtrack is the best, as I soon found out.
How many uploads of God Shattering Star must fall before Nintendo lets us listen to our jams
Entire channels have fallen from Nintendo's music claiming wrath.
And yet ProfasiaGaming is still around despite posting footage of the final bosses of games before they even come out internationally.
I’m amazed “fair use” was only mentioned twice, and one of those in the Jim Sterling clip.
9:45 That explains why you did it in that way. Not gonna lie, that's my favorite part of the Monday Night Raw video, and hearing the audio from the original footage but done in a step-by-step collage made me take in the scene with some degree of imagination, and it was an interesting experience, making it my favorite part of the whole video. Screw those fartknockers for forcing you to do it that way, though.
I personally recommend copyright claiming your own videos. That way, if any company claims it, they'll still have to share 50% of the revenue.
Plus, if you have several accounts, you can effectively funnel 99% of all the revenue towards yourself.
The only way for that to stop being a viable option would be if UA-cam acknowledged the inherently flawed system and fixed it.
I'm pretty sure that's super against the terms of service though, and possibly illegal so you could get in trouble
@@ecrivonlunyx i mean, it's as illegal as what the companies do
you claiming your own content makes sense, companies claming a song that they didn't make doesn't
what's the company going to sue you for? what's youtube gonna sue you for? we can refute all their shit back by telling them that theyre shit, or making them look at a mirror, so they wont
TL;DR:: they have to be big fucking hypocrites AND acknowledge it to sue us, they do only the first part
Conut Gnuz who the one with the most influence
@@supe4701 man, if shit ton of influence is enough to get me through the law, id be scared of the system everyday and question wth the law is for
@@ConutGnuz Hey, you should be scared of the system everyday and question wth the law is for
That engineer depiction isn’t accurate, you forgot the 4 other engineers surrounded by pyros
Ah, a mann of culture
and the enemy spy trying desperately to sap all of them
@@charlottebiscuit4133 no... the photo was made by the spy before the attack
This community finds a way
I literally just tried to upload a funeral video for my Mom’s friend the other day only for it to get hit with this garbage. Somebody literally has a auto claim system, for a public domain song, set up to try and make money off military vets passing away. I hate this mess.
2009: Broadcast Yourself
2019: Lose Yourself
His palms are sweaty
Knees weak, arms are heavy
There's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti
i payed for my first car with megalovania
yes, yes you did
**
*Sly Cooper 5: Sly Cooper Helps His Son With His UA-cam Channel*
That would be Sly Cooper 5
Sly Cooper 4 already exists bro, but I understand not remembering it exists
I'd play it, like the fool I am, being a person who paid full price for sly cooper 4
"... Barbaricly punished by the wrath of angry gamers."
This remains my favourite comedic quote of Emp.
I feel bad everytime emplemon says that nobody watches ytp maybe they are not as big as they used to be, but at least in my university I see guys from time to time watching ytp on their phones and laptops and I still search for them regularly
JackDurripper and Pthooie are still active, and even Hurricoaster just uploaded recently!
It’s definitely not as big as it used to be
The downward spiral leads to the abyss of infinite darkness.
Wrong. The downward spiral IS the abyss of infinite darkness.
The Chosen One but through the turmoil... knowledge is earned
“Don’t get hit” I didn’t know you were into melee!
Being HIT can mean a g|_|n sh0t.
@@rachelslur8729 The quote "Don't Get Hit" and the voice clip were from the Smash Brothers Documentary.
Isai said it playing smash 64 im pretty sure
ISAI!
22:46 I know that name... and that quote too.
Your narrations are by far some of the most enjoyable on YT and this series is gooooooood stuff.
I got hit with a copyright claim when i showed an instagram story of a single i found at a thrift store of 1999. Copyright laws are absurd at this point.
"in episode 3, we look at why things are the way the way they are"
spoiler alert: its money
@pyropulse
If you have watched emplemon's video about Viacom and UA-cam, you'd really know that UA-cam isn't primarily at fault. It's basically the cooperates that want to steal the revenue. Blame it all on Viacom.
Copyright is a invention of State governments, not youtube.
@@edugames150 why do you think the State exists, to protect poor people?
Ask any politician exactly who they work for?
Ask any rich man where money comes from... It isn't magic
It's law
THE JOKER DOESN'T SAY "RIDDLE ME THIS"
THAT'S THE RIDDLER
REEEEEEEEEEE
The riddler was riddling as he was pretending to be the joker pretending to be himself while thinking the words "jokes on you batman, rid-dle yourself of this inceptive conundrum."
I have to say this is my favorite UA-cam channel. The only commentary videos I have no problem going back and rewatching every now and again.
Copyright smugglers be like:
*I'll steal it. No one will ever know!*
UA-cam:Is this kids content?
Person:I am playing a gory shooting video game.
UA-cam:Video game? Kids like video games. Banned.
you have breathing in your video. sorry, kids like being alive.
This really makes me want a Never Ever on SiIvagunner
meh Siiva is still going strong as of now
Too bad brstm 3 doesn't have the same fate
I feel blessed knowing that the chad video game soundtracks are mostly claim-proof, while the virgin mainstream pop music isn’t.
21:15
Oh man, that one aged well huh? Still the most infuriating shit.
Next on EmpLemon: How to avoid Copyright by using D O W N W A R D S P I R A L, the complete guide
Things may go down from here
I got claimed for playing a song too like the original on piano that the content id system thought it was a reupload...
c u c kmeister
UA-cam auto-detects the Minecraft parody song "Revenge" (creeper aw man) as the Usher song for some reason even though the Minecraft song's backing track was remade with noteblocks
I got claimed for child porn
The Giorno theme?
The Downward Spiral has become one of the best Memes and you Dance it More expertly then any werewolf, Howlers could have learned a thing from you.
for someone that has been both a looong time user of UA-cam and a recent student in production of youtube videos, i find this video to be very very useful, emp. Thanks Homie.
Why even try to avoid Copyright detection when in a month or 2 we will get fined $45,000 because our videos have color in them?
Time to go back to Black and white bois
This honestly needs to stop, its stifling peoples' creativity and pushing them to mental illness.
bruh, they're penny pinchers
they couldn't give less of a shit if you commit toaster bath as long as you give them money, asking them for some sympathy is asking a brick wall to feel emotion
like what they did to me? ruin youtube and the entire entertainment industry so i cant be a famous animator or game dev or anything in the creative feild?
They don’t care they have money.
Mental illness in the population? Stifling individuality? F it, who cares?! They don’t have lots of money.
Props to emplemon for not only showcasing how people smuggled copyright content, but also trying to get contentid to not take down this video by putting them in use at the same time.
20:32 I love how your examples of obscure music are pretty much in my music taste homeground. Not a fan of Cassiopea or Spin, but that kind of obscure prog is exactly what I listen to