The latest Arc of AOT makes everything happening in the story before so small compared to the scale of the current arc rn. Its just amazing what Isayama can do to the AOT world and characters
Siegfried Final absolutely. Ffs we got one, ONE little plot line that lasted 10 episodes. Thats just not fair. Lol these seasons should be 40 episodes long.
I recently caught up with the manga and I feel like my heart is going to explode, it really messed up with my emotions. I’m just in awe at how good the story is.
Once the anime is over, it would be nice to see a Wisecrack covering all the story. I don't mind if it's one or two hours long. It can be divided into several parts. You decide.
DID YOU READ CHAPTER 112???? THAT SHIT WAS FIRE!! GODDAMN! MAN-BUN EREN IS GON SAVAGE! SHIT! BRO But seriously, Jared would get a philosophical boner from reading the manga.
I love mystery box shows. So entertaining to theorize. Brandon Sanderson writes novels that have many mystery boxes wrapped in plot twists and drown in foreshadowing gravy. Triple like smash.
I got the feeling they were in love (maybe not the overly-affectionated-always-kiss-and-hold-each-others-hands-type, but still caring and sharing feelings). I'd guess Ymir is sexually interested in women, while Historia is sort of bi.
I agree the theme of "power and its control on society" is one of core components of AOT. But I would argue that a more driving aspect of the story is how a society shapes its generations by giving them new foes to fight. For example, Eren mostly driven by the event of the first wall break at the start of the show, but as the story progresses and more and more questions arouse even his perspective on who the real enemy is started to change. I think that this change of the "villian" is key to the characters and their development in the show. However what i find interresting is that the fundemental believe of "us versus them" does not change that much in the story. There will always be a new bone to fight over and always "titans" to fight. If society runs out of enemies then they will "make" them. The only character that I find breaks this circle is Historia because she honestly believes there must be another way as she cares alot for Ymir.
@@hildegardvonbingen9092 except they are also people, who are trapped in a cycle of canabalism, with no end in sight. Many of them, beforehand, were good people. Dina was a good person, before she became the smiling Titan, and ate Hannes and Carla.
Really? I thought the writing and dialogue was the cringiest, most predictable shit I've ever watched. I had to stop watching a couple of eps into the second season....
@@petercarioscia9189 read chapter 112. Even without the context its great. The best dialog chapter i have read. And idk what you found cringey or predictable about dialog but ok. Maybe ur just a hater.
@@petercarioscia9189 Eren's early dialogue is like that deliberately. It's part of his character arc that he starts as a generic shonen protagonist. The whole point of the show is kind of to lure you into thinking it's generic and cliche, and then pull the rug from under you and make you realise nothing is as it seems.
@@petercarioscia9189 yea it's not good. It relies on cheap narrative tricks to keep people reading because it ultimately doesn't have anything interesting left to say. A good story is always about the characters within it. But AoT stopped caring about its characters a long time ago. Most chapters are narrative dumps... With the characters taking a back seat to the stupid amount of world building the author/s are trying to do. It got to the point that when one of the main characters dies in the more recent chapters I literally couldn't care... it felt empty because pretty much every face on the page was little more than a word vomit machine for the past two years.
wisecrack needs to make an update video on AOT after this season finale if they're covering the anime only, would love to get their viewpoint again with the new information
The reveal of who the Colossal and Armored Titan were had my jaw drop when I first saw it. It was so casual and passive that I legitimately thought I had the incorrect dub on the screen.
Boy, I am really looking forward to them applying political science analysis to process the massive twists of season 3 part 2! There are tons of concepts about fascism, ethnic strife, propaganda and nationalistic mythos.
Season 4 promises to continue that trend and actually circle right back to the political philosophy of Season 1 with the direction the characters are taking. The coming conflicts are gonna be heartbreaking on a character level, though.
The book or the movie? The book is classical Liberal (not contemporary neo Liberal) propaganda, while the movie is a parody that fundamentally misrepresents and misunderstands the message of the book. The director only read one chapter of the book and thought it was promoting fascism... which the author wasn't.
Another great chapter guys and I think this is exactly what we are seeing in American Politics now. The need to change because of the state of the world, and the desire to maintain the status quo. Keep it going.
Aot really changed my view on morality. Personally till S04 my favorite character was Eren Jeager. The reason being that I could resonate with him so much! I was naive, passionate, and the kind of explorer Eren is with freedom being THE MOST IMPORTANT to me. And I'm literally 16 years old, so all too close. And as Eren changed I, as a human being have also been changing. I realized that I used to see the world as black and white. Good and evil. But AOT changed my view and I realized that things are BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL. Eren might have become a utilitarian as of what he seems till now. It hurts me so much for a kind hearted Eren to see like this. Especially now that he has lost the spark in his eyes. This year(2020 when I watched AOT) I've been going through depression and the same transition of my naiveness being destroyed by the world. Eren after killing children seemed to be literally not affected, even by a bit. Which hurt! Anyways I guess we all can agree that Isayama is a LITERAL GENIUS. More than anything, more than the facade of the cool action sequences and great storytelling of AOT, there lies great depth. Immensely GREAT DEPTH. And watching other's interpretation of that Depth; philosophical analysis of AOT helps me understand things and the characters better. Wisecrack - thank you. And looking forward to a full philosophical analysis after AOT is over.
How is everyone missing the Japanese nationalism themes? The royal family are bound by a vow to renounce war. The Japanese constitution also talks about a vow to renounce war. Some characters in the series think that the vow to renounce war is like a suicide of Paradis society. The main character thinks he should raise an ARMY of Titans and then he uses that army to destroy the world, because the world won't stop attacking Paradis because of crimes that their ancestors did.
It’s really a story about daddy issues: Eren, Historia, Erwin, Levi and his father figure, Eren’s *dad’s* dad; and heck, even the beast titan has major daddy issues!
Gaunter O'dimm no, not at all. Though I was able to understand Inception. I was exclaiming about AoT being complicated as it is and how he says it’s just gonna get more complicated.
There's a lot you've missed, but I'm still interested to see how your philosophical interpretation evolves as more of the anime comes out (You have perfect timing for a throwback, because the manga just dropped a lot of shit that people have been debating about endlessly, with tons of theories going around)
After this season ends you better revisit it again, it`s much more about the pointless and endless cycle of bloodshed and hate of human history than just the friend/enemy distinction. The story makes you hate monsters with all you got and that gives you meaning on the story, only to later make you emphatize and feel bad for these same monsters with all you got, and you truly believe and understand how often the only thing to blame is the world itself. It`s really a genius classic in the making.
This is perhaps one of the most insightful video essays I have seen in a while; You have made a meticulous effort to break down and inquire the themes that Isayama seems to explore as he is partly responsible for the plot decisions made for Attack on Titan. I feel, as many others do, that the show's inquiry on social order is disturbingly relatable to the political strife we have now, and given that we are living in a fragmented world, I believe it is paramount that the delicacy of the public sphere should be enquired more by popular culture-- creators and artists have plenty of opportunities to explore this subject matter. By the way, what is the name of the soundtrack starting from 17:10 until 18:11? it made the essay that much more mesmerizing, and I would like to hear the rest of it
You should do a video on Trigun and how it fits a lot of archetypes from westerns as well as exploring utilitarianism and whether people are inherently good or evil plus a lot of other stuff
I think you can draw an analogy between person and society in it's developement, and you can use some phenomena in personal psychology in describing the society. I'd say that status quo in this analogy is an equivalent of comfort zone. We all know that staying in your comfort zone forever is very bad idea. Like the comfort zone for an individual, status quo is gonna cause the society to be stagnant, unable to develop and whatever suffering it endures will never go away until the status quo is broken.
Critiquing and dissecting various philosophic themes and overtones in one of the most beloved anime/manga series currently in circulation all the while wearing a swishahosue t shirt. So much win in this video!!!!!!!!
@@ShellShock145 Claymore has the same flaws as Bleach. Keeps introducing characters who does nothing in the story. The battles are very similar as well. Last second saves all the time and power ups, when characters should've been dead. The awakened are very similar to hollows, although with cooler designs. Nothing with real debt or growth. Bleach with girl power.
"epistemic endosmosis" Through a process I like to call "mitochondrial sophist obfuscation", we create terminology that makes something straightforward more complicated. It helps sustain my noble lifestyle.
Just finished all of season 3. I've been noticing some naturalist and even existentialist themes. I'd love to explore more of that. I'm very interested in how the final season plays out. Edit: Upon further research, the show seems to be heavily adapted from the works of Nietzsche. Perhaps most specifically "Thus Spoke Zarathustra"
hey wisecrack. just to tell that there is something you haven't talked about social status quo in AOT that i'd like to hear from you; it's a theme that is also present in Animal Farm, and that is how social classes are always one against the other for the sake of power (marxist ideas). think about how the government tried to destroy the survey corps and then the survey corps started a revolution that ended with Historia as the new Queen. SPOILERS: then in the manga, the new goverment they set up is in danger to be destroyed by the jaeger faction. that's the other side of the coin of the human condition; that it doesn't matter who is in power, because power will always shift by an oppressed group (yeah, power corrupts).
Thanks Jared, for doing my anime homework -- now if only my son could do his actual homework for me, he'd be a good kid like you. ^.^ I knew if I waited long enough, either my teenager or this show would do the homework for me past where my attention span died.
So many people complaining that this is information is Moot because it's based off of anime and not the manga. When in reality the creator has influenced the anime for the better in their opinion and no matter how far ahead the manga is, any video about its current state will be out dated eventually unless its based off the manga after its officially ended
at about 4:30 : Thank you for that "TL;DW". As interesting as the show is, I just can't put aside the time anymore to watch anime/TV like I used to, but still wanted to know the gist of the story, and this summed it up quite well.
Not to mention that the site he created looked like total arse, if I where a recruiter looking at that thing I'd probably insta-reject it. Just learn HTML and CSS guys, it's not hard! I'm a complete and utter idiot when it comes to computers, but even I was able to figure it out after a few free courses (try CodeAcademy, it's pretty great).
I love what AoT has evolved into. It’s started as a post apocalyptic, last humans on earth show into something so complex and interesting that I can’t even talk about just so I don’t ruin it to people. World building and twist and turns done right!
iBryan at first glance yes you are right but have you rewatched only the first season (that’s the one I’m talking about) it really starts to feel FLCL if you know what I mean (?)
The anime is so well-done that an argument can be made for sticking to it and not reading the manga, but there's no wrong answer, here - watch it, read it, both... Both is good.
I'm so confused why Wisecrack continue to discuss issues regarding AOT while not reading the manga. The manga is much more complex, as the anime is an adaptation and as such makes changes to the story. So the conclusion these videos are attempting to reach are based on corrupted information. The manga provides information that they anime simply does not, also the anime's pacing in all over the place in comparison to the manga.
True, but the anime WAS super-faithful to the manga right up until the 3rd season, and those changes WERE made by the author himself, so that's a bit debateable. For the record, though, I don't agree with the 3rd season changes either.
Tbh the anime is the reason I haven't caught up. The voice acting is on point but the art is pretty meh and the pacing makes it rather hard to keep interest. If I had to give the series a go I'd go with the manga. No matter how faithful an anime is to the manga, it's all for naught if the direction of the anime is not very good
Hey wisecrack, have you guys ever thought about a breakdown on the legend of Zelda? It's one of my all time favorite franchises and I've always wondered what you guys might have to say about it. Loved the video as always, keep up the awesome work!
@@alexc2265 Especially the moral dilemma and the lengths characters go to achieve their goal. Also I am interested in what the other one in your top 3 is...
Ilove beanbag oh, absolutely. I don’t like it when someone calls Kira OR L the villain, but mostly Kira. And My Hero Academia. Deku is my relatively literally my spirit animal. I’ve never related to a character so much.
@@alexc2265 Yeah my hero academia is really good. I understand that your favorite is Deku, but mine is all might. His presence in a scene itself is awesome. I haven't been as emotional in a show when his threw his last punch. I want to know who to you think is the best character development: Light/Kira, Lelouch/Zero, Lawlit/L?
@@alexc2265 yeah people often talk about Kira being total evil...I mean people look over the fact that world was 1 and 2 has claimed more than 100 million lives. Kira has ended war and crime greatly, even though through politically incorrect ways. He is both good and evil. That is what makes his character great. So awesome.
in the manga too, oh you'll learn the secrets all right, but new ones ALWAYS take their place. And freakin more secrets too. It's like Lost in that aspect, the characters are also the center of the story.
Another Attack on Titan video but you can't do one of the Berserk Manga which is chock-full of philosophical references unlike the mediocre 2016 anime the Conviction Arc only had so many Friedrich Nietzsche references it might as well I've been a love letter to Nietzsche philosophy if you want to do a philosophy of Berserk Justice the manga is the only way to go wisecrack
Calamitoso 00 if you read my comment you would already know that 2016 anime was complete garbage a bastardized version of the masterpiece that is the berserk manga
It's simple. They're doing AOT right now because a new season came out, so it's popular. They'll probably do the Berserk manga if either they have nothing else to do, or Berserk get's a sudden boost in popularity.
I challenge you to analyze the philosophy of JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure/Hirohiko Araki. Not saying it would make any sense, but it would be awesome if you did!
In an interview, Araki said that the theme of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure was the "human spirit and the inevitable conflict that arises when powerful opposing wills collide" Edit: I found it, Araki talks about it at 24:30. ua-cam.com/video/IYLRKoWDadM/v-deo.html
To fit their prior analysis type, it would either have to be about the Chimera Ants or the Chairman Election Arc. It would also be an interesting take if they can find IRL parallels for the Zoldyks and the Phantom Troupe.
18:37 First, I want to say, *I love this video already.* This seems to be an *extremely* interesting take on *Attack On Titan,* what with the show's presentation of "us vs them," manipulation of the status quo, pretty much *everything* related to it. I'm especially surprised about +Wisecrack 's take on Historia (Hystoria?). She seems to be the most interesting character of the show considering her hatred of humanity. It would seem that, in a way, she almost relates to *me.* I mean, as much as I appreciate *living in this giant habitation we call Earth,* I legitimately thought that the most important thing for us, as *human beings* is to *survive natural threats* and overcome potential risks. Needless to say, that, in and of itself, may very well be a stigmatization by *society in general.* That being said, whenever I *do* hear of threats, it's always from "groups outside of our groups," not, I don't know, *the bias we hold against each other.* So let me get *this* out of the way and confess something right now. *I FUCKING hate our current system!* I FUCKING hate how society just writes down all these *random* rules with no given thought to *question* them! I FUCKING hate how society *presents* these rules, much less put them to practice. I *especially* hate how much *significance* society tries to put into those rules! *I FUCKING live in America, GODDAMN it!* If I wanted to *sell my own SOUL* just to *try* to conform to beliefs and ideologies *outside* me, just to *try* to fit in with *everyone else,* the *first* thing I'd LITERALLY have to do for that is *suck somebody's genitalia,* for no other reason than to *serve them!* But as you should figure out by now, *I'm not that kind of guy!* However, from what I've seen so far on the *Internet,* there's pretty much a *massive slew* of people abroad *sucking each other's genitalia* for no other reason than to "feel safe"..., because after all, *that's how we make FRIENDS for the most part!* You know what FUCKING disappoints me the *most* about this? The fact that we have the *potential* to communicate at a foreign distance, thanks to social mediums like +UA-cam , +Facebook , Twitter, +Instagram , etc., *and those companies have DELIBERATELY allowed us to do FAR more harm than we have done since ancient times!* Of *course* words aren't supposed to hurt! *They're just WORDS in the end, right?* Not according to all the growing *hundreds* of people in *my own generation* who are DELIBERATELY using social media to *ATTACK* each other more and more, and using other *tools* and *resources* online, *all* just to prove their points and keep up their advantage! That's how we're still *trolling* each other, that's how much *memes* we're making, and that's *especially* how so many people *being* hurt online *suddenly choose to commit SUICIDE, and let the others know before they actually DO!* No one should even have to *go* through this type of shit! No one *asked* for those kind of conflicts, and yet, *despite all the freedom we have been GRANTED by social media,* the hypocrisy *clearly* shows when on *one* hand, these companies turn a *blind eye* to REAL legal issues taking place on their part, like *PLAGIARISM,* and on the *other* hand answer to *mainstream* companies with their *own* agendas, one of which being to *take down these social media platforms USER BY USER!* That's not even *mentioning* the poor communication we get from *UA-cam* after the fact! What kind of company *DOES* all this to their *own* consumers?? A *lazy, ignorant, money-hungry, often-cowardly FUCKHEAD* company is what! I don't care *who* in the their headquarters *suddenly* decided at the *LAST* minute to inform us that they've been taming their *algorithm* program *their entire time,* UA-cam might as well be *in* on this scheming act when they've been busy dealing with *paycheck after paycheck,* while their *users* have been literally *TROLLING each other to death!!!!* On a sidenote, I'm actually *glad* someone in their headquarters have *finally* told us about that bit, because after a *whole* decade trying to *follow* their trends, and figure out exactly *who* in the entire multi-medium industry is *leading* the charts, *simply* so I could find a way to compete in the market, I can *finally* say with *pure* confidence that *I'm totally over UA-cam, now.* Now I'm just waiting for the right moment to *exploit the ever-living SHIT out of them!* Because let's face it, for as much as I love +PewDiePie , +Markiplier , MatPat of +The Game Theorists , and all the hard-working UA-cam Animators coming on the platform, and as much as I appreciate all the celebrities trying it out, Hollywood and otherwise, they *all* came up on UA-cam *not* for UA-cam, but for the fun and *discovery* of it all. And if the *ultimate* discovery of this kinda thing is that *all* those hypocrisies I've mentioned is *leading* all of us to *Article 13,* then I *never* wanted part in the social media *in the first place.* *FUCK* social media, *FUCK* those *puppet* companies, and *FUCK* society and their *manipulative* system. *They can ALL BURN IN HELL for what they've done!* I'm going on a *rant* about this, but it's all to point out something this video actually *is* missing: the undeniable fact that all the mainstream media companies have been trying their *damnedest* NOT to be as *lazy, ignorant, greedy, and cowardly* as all the social media companies I've mentioned, and actually *appeal* to society as they are. How does society *repay* the mainstream media *time after time?* *With utter HORSESHIT* (trolling, call-outs with no true cause, worthless memes, death threats, and the like) *But "[y]a gotta love the Internet sometimes!" (- MatPat)* *FUCK the world and then leave her the FUCK behind! SHE'S DEAD TO ME!!!!*
The latest Arc of AOT makes everything happening in the story before so small compared to the scale of the current arc rn. Its just amazing what Isayama can do to the AOT world and characters
Siegfried Final absolutely. Ffs we got one, ONE little plot line that lasted 10 episodes. Thats just not fair. Lol these seasons should be 40 episodes long.
When the current arc started, it's like the entire dynamic of the story changed. And where it is now, beginning it's final arc, is amazing.
@Shingeki Motion 10, even. I really hope they won't compress the upcoming arcs in the same way
Shingeki Motion I didnt mean to undermine it. Your last sentence is my point
I recently caught up with the manga and I feel like my heart is going to explode, it really messed up with my emotions. I’m just in awe at how good the story is.
Once the anime is over, it would be nice to see a Wisecrack covering all the story. I don't mind if it's one or two hours long. It can be divided into several parts. You decide.
Fun fact: Jared is actually Armin but older.
sam sebastian SPOILERS!!!!
This is now Canon
Honestly, that's probably true
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"Apparently, everyone is a Titan."
*laughs manically and knowingly*
Yes indeed.
You definitely need to do a video on Attack on Titan season 3 part 2! Would love to see your take.
I think it's too incomplete to have a full analysis on it and they're waiting for the final season to conclude.
Guys, do yourselves a favor and read the manga. It's incredible.
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DID YOU READ CHAPTER 112???? THAT SHIT WAS FIRE!! GODDAMN! MAN-BUN EREN IS GON SAVAGE! SHIT! BRO
But seriously, Jared would get a philosophical boner from reading the manga.
I agree completely, this video is irrelevant cuz once u read after the Reiss Arc, everything that u know changes in a big way
I only have a phone with internet, is there a place I can find it?
@@euc5957 mangastream is formatted fairly well for mobile
I love mystery box shows. So entertaining to theorize. Brandon Sanderson writes novels that have many mystery boxes wrapped in plot twists and drown in foreshadowing gravy. Triple like smash.
Ah yes, her "best friend" Ymir............
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well, one does not exclude the other does it?^^
Historia is straight so Ymir were friendzoned
I have a feeling that that love was on sided historia doesn't share feelings
I got the feeling they were in love (maybe not the overly-affectionated-always-kiss-and-hold-each-others-hands-type, but still caring and sharing feelings).
I'd guess Ymir is sexually interested in women, while Historia is sort of bi.
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I agree the theme of "power and its control on society" is one of core components of AOT. But I would argue that a more driving aspect of the story is how a society shapes its generations by giving them new foes to fight. For example, Eren mostly driven by the event of the first wall break at the start of the show, but as the story progresses and more and more questions arouse even his perspective on who the real enemy is started to change.
I think that this change of the "villian" is key to the characters and their development in the show. However what i find interresting is that the fundemental believe of "us versus them" does not change that much in the story. There will always be a new bone to fight over and always "titans" to fight. If society runs out of enemies then they will "make" them. The only character that I find breaks this circle is Historia because she honestly believes there must be another way as she cares alot for Ymir.
They only eat people though in the attempt to regain their human form and can’t distinguish between who is a shifter and who isn’t.
@@hildegardvonbingen9092 except they are also people, who are trapped in a cycle of canabalism, with no end in sight. Many of them, beforehand, were good people. Dina was a good person, before she became the smiling Titan, and ate Hannes and Carla.
Eren is solidifying himself as one of the greatest protags ever written. The manga rn is pure greatness. Top tier writing.
Really? I thought the writing and dialogue was the cringiest, most predictable shit I've ever watched. I had to stop watching a couple of eps into the second season....
@@petercarioscia9189 read chapter 112. Even without the context its great. The best dialog chapter i have read. And idk what you found cringey or predictable about dialog but ok. Maybe ur just a hater.
@@petercarioscia9189 Eren's early dialogue is like that deliberately. It's part of his character arc that he starts as a generic shonen protagonist. The whole point of the show is kind of to lure you into thinking it's generic and cliche, and then pull the rug from under you and make you realise nothing is as it seems.
@@petercarioscia9189 are you watching the dub?
@@petercarioscia9189 yea it's not good. It relies on cheap narrative tricks to keep people reading because it ultimately doesn't have anything interesting left to say. A good story is always about the characters within it. But AoT stopped caring about its characters a long time ago. Most chapters are narrative dumps... With the characters taking a back seat to the stupid amount of world building the author/s are trying to do. It got to the point that when one of the main characters dies in the more recent chapters I literally couldn't care... it felt empty because pretty much every face on the page was little more than a word vomit machine for the past two years.
wisecrack needs to make an update video on AOT after this season finale if they're covering the anime only, would love to get their viewpoint again with the new information
The reveal of who the Colossal and Armored Titan were had my jaw drop when I first saw it. It was so casual and passive that I legitimately thought I had the incorrect dub on the screen.
I thought they were joking at first to had Eren listen to them.
Y'all gonna have your minds melt in the next season also who else is feeling all over the place after the latest chapter
My heart is all over the place, man
Why isn't Gabi dead yet?! 😩
@@webbrowser6454 She hasn't kill enough important character yet HAHAHAHAHahahaha
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Yea. Zake back to be a bad guy again
@@solidcreature5950 But potato girl tho! 😥
Do Philosophy of Code Geass please:)
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"The Prince" by Machiavel, read this if you wanna know a lil' bit more 'bout our beloved Lelouch's Philosophy
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Boy, I am really looking forward to them applying political science analysis to process the massive twists of season 3 part 2! There are tons of concepts about fascism, ethnic strife, propaganda and nationalistic mythos.
Season 4 promises to continue that trend and actually circle right back to the political philosophy of Season 1 with the direction the characters are taking. The coming conflicts are gonna be heartbreaking on a character level, though.
"Eren spouts the social myths" Oh boy, if only you knew how true those myths ended up being.
Yeah. Wait till season 4.
Those epic opening are just brainwashing military propaganda like starship troopers
The book or the movie? The book is classical Liberal (not contemporary neo Liberal) propaganda, while the movie is a parody that fundamentally misrepresents and misunderstands the message of the book. The director only read one chapter of the book and thought it was promoting fascism... which the author wasn't.
@@SleepyMatt-zzz movie , i never read the book. Really forgot alot about the movie aswell. Thank to they podcast I remember it
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Yup. It's a good way to get people to join the army.
Well... actually... Shingeki no Kyojin is inspired by Muv-luv, a vn which was inspired by Starship Troopers, so...
The Manga is so good where its at rn.
OMG right, sooo cray cray, didn't see this coming TBH.... I had hope.... (U Kno what I mean )
Talk about moral grays... I don't even know who to root for anymore...
the faction eh ?
But this latest chapter tho... 💔😥😢
Really currious how the author is gonna end it all, he did say the ending is in sight.
Another great chapter guys and I think this is exactly what we are seeing in American Politics now. The need to change because of the state of the world, and the desire to maintain the status quo. Keep it going.
Aot really changed my view on morality. Personally till S04 my favorite character was Eren Jeager. The reason being that I could resonate with him so much! I was naive, passionate, and the kind of explorer Eren is with freedom being THE MOST IMPORTANT to me. And I'm literally 16 years old, so all too close. And as Eren changed I, as a human being have also been changing. I realized that I used to see the world as black and white. Good and evil. But AOT changed my view and I realized that things are BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL. Eren might have become a utilitarian as of what he seems till now. It hurts me so much for a kind hearted Eren to see like this. Especially now that he has lost the spark in his eyes. This year(2020 when I watched AOT) I've been going through depression and the same transition of my naiveness being destroyed by the world. Eren after killing children seemed to be literally not affected, even by a bit. Which hurt!
Anyways I guess we all can agree that Isayama is a LITERAL GENIUS. More than anything, more than the facade of the cool action sequences and great storytelling of AOT, there lies great depth. Immensely GREAT DEPTH. And watching other's interpretation of that Depth; philosophical analysis of AOT helps me understand things and the characters better. Wisecrack - thank you. And looking forward to a full philosophical analysis after AOT is over.
"Eat me, save humanity!" I'll use that next time
So what you’re saying is that Attack On Titan is really just 1984 but with cannibal giants.
AltearexGamingYT basically
That's... An interesting thought.
From what we see in s4, its more close to say its bares more of a resemblance to Animal Farm.
How is everyone missing the Japanese nationalism themes? The royal family are bound by a vow to renounce war. The Japanese constitution also talks about a vow to renounce war. Some characters in the series think that the vow to renounce war is like a suicide of Paradis society. The main character thinks he should raise an ARMY of Titans and then he uses that army to destroy the world, because the world won't stop attacking Paradis because of crimes that their ancestors did.
@@funofboredom Dude what you described is applicable 1 to 1 with Germany and their action taken during ww2
It’s really a story about daddy issues: Eren, Historia, Erwin, Levi and his father figure, Eren’s *dad’s* dad; and heck, even the beast titan has major daddy issues!
Thank you wisecrack I freaking love Attack on Titan. Your analysis was great.
The manga rn is straight 🔥🔥🔥!!!
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Wait till the show catches up to the manga, it's way too good and way more complicated
Charan Sai MORE complicated? Omg. You can’t make a film on the whole thing or it’s gonna be like Inception - almost no one will get it!
@@alexc2265 what? Are you saying its simple?
Gaunter O'dimm no, not at all. Though I was able to understand Inception. I was exclaiming about AoT being complicated as it is and how he says it’s just gonna get more complicated.
@@alexc2265 oh yeah.. U read the manga?
@@uthredraganrson5467 Only the first volume. Been busy
There's a lot you've missed, but I'm still interested to see how your philosophical interpretation evolves as more of the anime comes out (You have perfect timing for a throwback, because the manga just dropped a lot of shit that people have been debating about endlessly, with tons of theories going around)
Get in the Titan, Erin!
It just keeps tumblring down tumblring down tumblring down
ERIN
Did someone say Eirin?
And now at this stage in the manga: "Please don't get in the Titan, Eren!".
Eren is badass tf u mean
After this season ends you better revisit it again, it`s much more about the pointless and endless cycle of bloodshed and hate of human history than just the friend/enemy distinction. The story makes you hate monsters with all you got and that gives you meaning on the story, only to later make you emphatize and feel bad for these same monsters with all you got, and you truly believe and understand how often the only thing to blame is the world itself. It`s really a genius classic in the making.
This is perhaps one of the most insightful video essays I have seen in a while; You have made a meticulous effort to break down and inquire the themes that Isayama seems to explore as he is partly responsible for the plot decisions made for Attack on Titan.
I feel, as many others do, that the show's inquiry on social order is disturbingly relatable to the political strife we have now, and given that we are living in a fragmented world, I believe it is paramount that the delicacy of the public sphere should be enquired more by popular culture-- creators and artists have plenty of opportunities to explore this subject matter.
By the way, what is the name of the soundtrack starting from 17:10 until 18:11?
it made the essay that much more mesmerizing, and I would like to hear the rest of it
I hope they revisit Attack on Titan since Season 3 Part 2 just finished.
You should do a video on Trigun and how it fits a lot of archetypes from westerns as well as exploring utilitarianism and whether people are inherently good or evil plus a lot of other stuff
"control of the flow of information" is truly the theme of Attack of titam, as 121 has shown us
I think you can draw an analogy between person and society in it's developement, and you can use some phenomena in personal psychology in describing the society. I'd say that status quo in this analogy is an equivalent of comfort zone. We all know that staying in your comfort zone forever is very bad idea. Like the comfort zone for an individual, status quo is gonna cause the society to be stagnant, unable to develop and whatever suffering it endures will never go away until the status quo is broken.
Do aot's philosophy again after season 4!
I literally JUST finished the season yesterday and you bless us with this!
You guys need to check out Tatami Galaxy! It's less well known than AoT, but has a very interesting story that could definitely be analysed
Thanks for this. I basically got most of it while watching, but I needed a summation like this to make it more clear.
Ohohohoooo you have NO IDEA what's coming next in S4 and S5
Holy shit!! Is that a motherfucking One Piece reference???
@@nieznajomy4398 why one piece?
@@TheSoprah my bad, I mistook "Ohohohoooo" as Brook's "Yohohoho.." :P
they say S4 is going to be the last
Nieznajomy43 cringe
Critiquing and dissecting various philosophic themes and overtones in one of the most beloved anime/manga series currently in circulation all the while wearing a swishahosue t shirt. So much win in this video!!!!!!!!
Please make a video on the claymore manga/anime. Please.
Just the manga plz
I've read it, but it doesn't seem to dive into any specific themes. It becomes very similiar to Bleach later on.
Fearch 93 I don't see the relation to Bleach at all and I think there is plenty of themes to talk about in it, but you're entitled to your opinion.
There's a lot to say in it about how patriarchy exploits women for its own benefit.
@@ShellShock145 Claymore has the same flaws as Bleach. Keeps introducing characters who does nothing in the story. The battles are very similar as well. Last second saves all the time and power ups, when characters should've been dead. The awakened are very similar to hollows, although with cooler designs. Nothing with real debt or growth. Bleach with girl power.
you guys should do another one of these after season 4.
because boy oh, boy how much deeper this rabbit hole is going.
Shout out to Keke and Swisha House. RIP Screw.
"epistemic endosmosis"
Through a process I like to call "mitochondrial sophist obfuscation", we create terminology that makes something straightforward more complicated. It helps sustain my noble lifestyle.
Just finished all of season 3. I've been noticing some naturalist and even existentialist themes. I'd love to explore more of that. I'm very interested in how the final season plays out.
Edit: Upon further research, the show seems to be heavily adapted from the works of Nietzsche. Perhaps most specifically "Thus Spoke Zarathustra"
I heard some people say it also took inspiration from Norse Mythology. When season 4 airs, people will understand that claim.
This makes Attack On Titan a lot more interesting. I’ll have to watch more than just the first few episodes now
hey wisecrack. just to tell that there is something you haven't talked about social status quo in AOT that i'd like to hear from you; it's a theme that is also present in Animal Farm, and that is how social classes are always one against the other for the sake of power (marxist ideas). think about how the government tried to destroy the survey corps and then the survey corps started a revolution that ended with Historia as the new Queen. SPOILERS: then in the manga, the new goverment they set up is in danger to be destroyed by the jaeger faction. that's the other side of the coin of the human condition; that it doesn't matter who is in power, because power will always shift by an oppressed group (yeah, power corrupts).
we are animals who wants to ge god.
can't wait for wisecrack edition of attack on titan season part 2. the reveal even fitting about carl schmitt philosophy.
Time to ditch my exam for this
I AM SO LUCKY!!! My new exam format means that there are no mid-year exams so I can watch Attack on Titan
Thanks Jared, for doing my anime homework -- now if only my son could do his actual homework for me, he'd be a good kid like you. ^.^
I knew if I waited long enough, either my teenager or this show would do the homework for me past where my attention span died.
So many people complaining that this is information is Moot because it's based off of anime and not the manga. When in reality the creator has influenced the anime for the better in their opinion and no matter how far ahead the manga is, any video about its current state will be out dated eventually unless its based off the manga after its officially ended
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Brilliant as Always!!!!!!!
Still waiting for that Philosophy of Fate/Zero
Dude this, Fate/Zero or Madoka Magica would be cool.
I'm waiting for the whole nasuverse
Can't wait for the updated video regarding this when final season part1 is done and yet again once the dust settles.
Do a video on The Venture Bros and Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure
We need another video to catch up with the new seasons
Do a video on the philosophy of Goblin Slayer
Rule 1: Smash Goblins...
He did and he was talking about things like negative and positive peace. He knows how to explain it better than i can
You should definitely do a video on the philosophy of Satoshi Kon. Everything in his filmography is amazing and insightful.
Do Philosophy of Serial Experiments Lain
Ay, seriously. When does Lain get her chance to be under the scope. When will the ask *Who is Lain*?
Good to have you back, Jared.
Gosh... Now I really want them to make season 4 when that ends...
I love your vids so much Wisecrack!!!! Plz keep it up!!! MOAR ATTACK ON TITAN PLZZZZ!!!!
"We didn't read the manga"
*closes window immediately*
at about 4:30 : Thank you for that "TL;DW". As interesting as the show is, I just can't put aside the time anymore to watch anime/TV like I used to, but still wanted to know the gist of the story, and this summed it up quite well.
Is there a video on part 2 of season 3 coming?
Epistemic endosmosis and autocratic and dogma are about to be in heavy rotation of my conversations bcoz it sounds so dope great break down though!
I used wix for college, its a slow site and kinda laggy.
Casper The Ghost no u
Its aight
@@wdwuccnxcnh7022 No me 😃
@@elliotterodriguez Fite Me!
Not to mention that the site he created looked like total arse, if I where a recruiter looking at that thing I'd probably insta-reject it. Just learn HTML and CSS guys, it's not hard! I'm a complete and utter idiot when it comes to computers, but even I was able to figure it out after a few free courses (try CodeAcademy, it's pretty great).
I love what AoT has evolved into. It’s started as a post apocalyptic, last humans on earth show into something so complex and interesting that I can’t even talk about just so I don’t ruin it to people. World building and twist and turns done right!
Philosophy on monster plzzzzzzz
some random hooman YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS. Urasawa Naoki's Monster.
Thanks you and your video made me understand so much more to the story.
Pls for the love of god make a video about Dr House
OMG THIS PLOT IS GENIUS
Please do the philosophy for FLCL
Now that would be interesting
there isn't any, dude xD the only moral of that anime is "don't worry, it's ok to feel stupid" (at least for the first season)
iBryan at first glance yes you are right but have you rewatched only the first season (that’s the one I’m talking about) it really starts to feel FLCL if you know what I mean (?)
ShinobiShine ZX
Hiding in Public does a pretty good job of breaking down FLCL. Go check his videos “They’re Fake” and “I want her, I need her” out.
Check out KaptainKristian's video on it, dude has excellent content.
*It's been years since I've seen AOT. Should I read the manga or just watch season 2 and 3?*
Read manga
Yes.
The anime is so well-done that an argument can be made for sticking to it and not reading the manga, but there's no wrong answer, here - watch it, read it, both... Both is good.
Watch the anime and after you can continue with the manga
Read the manga
I love it when Jared reps Houston and wears his Swisha House shirt❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank god I'm not the only one to catch that lol
Hmmmm, haven't seen one of MatPat's theories confirmed in years...
I'm loving that you rocking a swisher house shirt
I'm so confused why Wisecrack continue to discuss issues regarding AOT while not reading the manga.
The manga is much more complex, as the anime is an adaptation and as such makes changes to the story. So the conclusion these videos are attempting to reach are based on corrupted information.
The manga provides information that they anime simply does not, also the anime's pacing in all over the place in comparison to the manga.
True, but the anime WAS super-faithful to the manga right up until the 3rd season, and those changes WERE made by the author himself, so that's a bit debateable. For the record, though, I don't agree with the 3rd season changes either.
Tbh the anime is the reason I haven't caught up. The voice acting is on point but the art is pretty meh and the pacing makes it rather hard to keep interest. If I had to give the series a go I'd go with the manga. No matter how faithful an anime is to the manga, it's all for naught if the direction of the anime is not very good
InsideJoke what changes were made in the 3rd season that are different from the manga.
Anime has better pacing than the manga.
@@akirashiori6265 Wjen the art is a issue for you, then you should stay with the anime, because the manga doesn'r have the best art
I was waiting for this video, thanks a lot
7:33-7:57 AoT summarised
Hey wisecrack, have you guys ever thought about a breakdown on the legend of Zelda? It's one of my all time favorite franchises and I've always wondered what you guys might have to say about it. Loved the video as always, keep up the awesome work!
I have seen a very few pieces of work, which is as great paced as Death Note and Attack on Titan.
Ilove beanbag much agreed. They’re both in my top 3. So thrilling AND philosophical!
@@alexc2265 Especially the moral dilemma and the lengths characters go to achieve their goal.
Also I am interested in what the other one in your top 3 is...
Ilove beanbag oh, absolutely. I don’t like it when someone calls Kira OR L the villain, but mostly Kira.
And My Hero Academia. Deku is my relatively literally my spirit animal. I’ve never related to a character so much.
@@alexc2265 Yeah my hero academia is really good. I understand that your favorite is Deku, but mine is all might. His presence in a scene itself is awesome. I haven't been as emotional in a show when his threw his last punch.
I want to know who to you think is the best character development: Light/Kira, Lelouch/Zero, Lawlit/L?
@@alexc2265 yeah people often talk about Kira being total evil...I mean people look over the fact that world was 1 and 2 has claimed more than 100 million lives. Kira has ended war and crime greatly, even though through politically incorrect ways. He is both good and evil. That is what makes his character great. So awesome.
in the manga too, oh you'll learn the secrets all right, but new ones ALWAYS take their place. And freakin more secrets too. It's like Lost in that aspect, the characters are also the center of the story.
Welcome early squad.
U cute.
Loved this. Hoping you guys also do Legend of the Galactic Heroes some time!
Do philosophy of pewdiepie.
The funny thing is: it would probably actually be a good topic to talk about
"minimise suffering" ... lmao so lame, it doesnt surprises me he's the embodiment of the average youtuber
Philosophy of The Promised Never Land Please, also Beastars! Thank you!
Another Attack on Titan video but you can't do one of the Berserk Manga which is chock-full of philosophical references unlike the mediocre 2016 anime the Conviction Arc only had so many Friedrich Nietzsche references it might as well I've been a love letter to Nietzsche philosophy if you want to do a philosophy of Berserk Justice the manga is the only way to go wisecrack
Already did it
Calamitoso 00 if you read my comment you would already know that 2016 anime was complete garbage a bastardized version of the masterpiece that is the berserk manga
It's simple. They're doing AOT right now because a new season came out, so it's popular. They'll probably do the Berserk manga if either they have nothing else to do, or Berserk get's a sudden boost in popularity.
The statement from 17:48 to 18:12 perfectly sums up the real world too.
*I’m the one that’s got to die when it’s time for me to die, so let me live my life the way I want to.*
That sounds vaguely familiar. RDR2?
My God this series is a masterpiece.
16:57 "her best friend ymir" yeah, best friends, right. 🙄
typical gal pals making wedding plans
Eren made baby
I challenge you to analyze the philosophy of JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure/Hirohiko Araki. Not saying it would make any sense, but it would be awesome if you did!
In an interview, Araki said that the theme of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure was the "human spirit and the inevitable conflict that arises when powerful opposing wills collide"
Edit: I found it, Araki talks about it at 24:30. ua-cam.com/video/IYLRKoWDadM/v-deo.html
Could you talk about schindler's list?
no
@@correctionguy7632 (read with shitty badass voice) why not?
@@elliotnordling2835 why bother describing philosophy that is obvious to anyone that watches it?
Elliot Nordling Great comedy
@@sergeantmajor_gross if what you said is true then thanks, but if not, you have the right to call me an attention grabbing ass.
Best of luck to Jared’s voiceover passions
Do Hunter x Hunter
Second that
To fit their prior analysis type, it would either have to be about the Chimera Ants or the Chairman Election Arc. It would also be an interesting take if they can find IRL parallels for the Zoldyks and the Phantom Troupe.
18:37
First, I want to say, *I love this video already.* This seems to be an *extremely* interesting take on *Attack On Titan,* what with the show's presentation of "us vs them," manipulation of the status quo, pretty much *everything* related to it. I'm especially surprised about +Wisecrack 's take on Historia (Hystoria?). She seems to be the most interesting character of the show considering her hatred of humanity. It would seem that, in a way, she almost relates to *me.* I mean, as much as I appreciate *living in this giant habitation we call Earth,* I legitimately thought that the most important thing for us, as *human beings* is to *survive natural threats* and overcome potential risks. Needless to say, that, in and of itself, may very well be a stigmatization by *society in general.*
That being said, whenever I *do* hear of threats, it's always from "groups outside of our groups," not, I don't know, *the bias we hold against each other.* So let me get *this* out of the way and confess something right now. *I FUCKING hate our current system!* I FUCKING hate how society just writes down all these *random* rules with no given thought to *question* them! I FUCKING hate how society *presents* these rules, much less put them to practice. I *especially* hate how much *significance* society tries to put into those rules! *I FUCKING live in America, GODDAMN it!* If I wanted to *sell my own SOUL* just to *try* to conform to beliefs and ideologies *outside* me, just to *try* to fit in with *everyone else,* the *first* thing I'd LITERALLY have to do for that is *suck somebody's genitalia,* for no other reason than to *serve them!* But as you should figure out by now, *I'm not that kind of guy!* However, from what I've seen so far on the *Internet,* there's pretty much a *massive slew* of people abroad *sucking each other's genitalia* for no other reason than to "feel safe"..., because after all, *that's how we make FRIENDS for the most part!*
You know what FUCKING disappoints me the *most* about this? The fact that we have the *potential* to communicate at a foreign distance, thanks to social mediums like +UA-cam , +Facebook , Twitter, +Instagram , etc., *and those companies have DELIBERATELY allowed us to do FAR more harm than we have done since ancient times!* Of *course* words aren't supposed to hurt! *They're just WORDS in the end, right?* Not according to all the growing *hundreds* of people in *my own generation* who are DELIBERATELY using social media to *ATTACK* each other more and more, and using other *tools* and *resources* online, *all* just to prove their points and keep up their advantage! That's how we're still *trolling* each other, that's how much *memes* we're making, and that's *especially* how so many people *being* hurt online *suddenly choose to commit SUICIDE, and let the others know before they actually DO!* No one should even have to *go* through this type of shit! No one *asked* for those kind of conflicts, and yet, *despite all the freedom we have been GRANTED by social media,* the hypocrisy *clearly* shows when on *one* hand, these companies turn a *blind eye* to REAL legal issues taking place on their part, like *PLAGIARISM,* and on the *other* hand answer to *mainstream* companies with their *own* agendas, one of which being to *take down these social media platforms USER BY USER!* That's not even *mentioning* the poor communication we get from *UA-cam* after the fact! What kind of company *DOES* all this to their *own* consumers?? A *lazy, ignorant, money-hungry, often-cowardly FUCKHEAD* company is what! I don't care *who* in the their headquarters *suddenly* decided at the *LAST* minute to inform us that they've been taming their *algorithm* program *their entire time,* UA-cam might as well be *in* on this scheming act when they've been busy dealing with *paycheck after paycheck,* while their *users* have been literally *TROLLING each other to death!!!!* On a sidenote, I'm actually *glad* someone in their headquarters have *finally* told us about that bit, because after a *whole* decade trying to *follow* their trends, and figure out exactly *who* in the entire multi-medium industry is *leading* the charts, *simply* so I could find a way to compete in the market, I can *finally* say with *pure* confidence that *I'm totally over UA-cam, now.* Now I'm just waiting for the right moment to *exploit the ever-living SHIT out of them!* Because let's face it, for as much as I love +PewDiePie , +Markiplier , MatPat of +The Game Theorists , and all the hard-working UA-cam Animators coming on the platform, and as much as I appreciate all the celebrities trying it out, Hollywood and otherwise, they *all* came up on UA-cam *not* for UA-cam, but for the fun and *discovery* of it all. And if the *ultimate* discovery of this kinda thing is that *all* those hypocrisies I've mentioned is *leading* all of us to *Article 13,* then I *never* wanted part in the social media *in the first place.* *FUCK* social media, *FUCK* those *puppet* companies, and *FUCK* society and their *manipulative* system. *They can ALL BURN IN HELL for what they've done!*
I'm going on a *rant* about this, but it's all to point out something this video actually *is* missing: the undeniable fact that all the mainstream media companies have been trying their *damnedest* NOT to be as *lazy, ignorant, greedy, and cowardly* as all the social media companies I've mentioned, and actually *appeal* to society as they are. How does society *repay* the mainstream media *time after time?* *With utter HORSESHIT* (trolling, call-outs with no true cause, worthless memes, death threats, and the like) *But "[y]a gotta love the Internet sometimes!" (- MatPat)* *FUCK the world and then leave her the FUCK behind! SHE'S DEAD TO ME!!!!*
Thanks for putting it in coherent text. All I can say..
I CONCUR VEHEMENTLY
Season 3 was better in the manga
Do a video trying to make sense of all of the sequel/prequel movies that are based on nostalgia! New Star Wars’, Fantastic Beasts 2, etc
He hasn't even read the manga, yet that Nazi comparison *is even more spot on than he knows...*