The Philosophy of Attack on Titan - Wisecrack Edition
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Welcome to this Wisecrack Edition on Attack on Titan, where we explore the surprising political ideology of the society within the walls. Is it possible that in this dystopian society a controversial philosophy from a Nazi theorist, Carl Schmitt, may be the only thing keeping the fabric of society from collapsing? Or is that just what those in power want citizens to believe?
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Written by: Matt Reichle
Narrated by: Jared Bauer
Directed by: Camille Lecoq and Jared Bauer
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#attackontitan #anime
This is gonna need to be redone after the Marley Arc.....
You bet, the similarities are going to go through the roof
The manga blurs the line of friend and foe even more
the what
@@sadsixclone1512 manga and S4 stuff
Anyone who's read the manga up to chapter 125.. you know where this ideology leads.
Now that I really sit and think about it, Japanese anime references Nazi Germany a LOT. Huh, it's almost like they were allies or something.
hmmmm a, Conspiracy I think not
marco39120 The japanese have a hard on for anything German.
Were the Nazi's trying to breed Super Saiyans at one time.........?
...Nehhhhhhhhh
its a way to redo and relive WW2 and not be the bad guy's.
wails still talking and thinking about what happen.
its like gangster movies, us know that shit is bad and it happend but u olso see wat make it cool and aluring and how it can happen again.
o and nati's are ezzy to pick on.
kek
this should be revisited now that we’re on season 4
Hooo boy we won’t get it til the anime is over
@@sonlaxx Its in crunchyroll xd
They did a follow up for season 3, so I imagine they will for 4.
12:20 hits the nail on the head pretty good though
Oh well... I clicked the video thinking I would have to point this out, but it seems thousands of people have done so already, multiple times. Story of my life, really.
Now that we know (SPOILERS) that titans are humans, the metaphor becomes more clear. The real enemy of humanity is humanity itself, literally and metaphorically.
Nah, it's the hate and intolerance. Humanity has so much capacity for charity and love.
People weren't titans, they were turned into titans. Makes you think...
@@romanempire8705 tell that empires and imperialists
It's not about it being an enemy as much as it is about the fact that the nature of aggression lies within all of us and anyone could be capable of horrible things instinctually. There isn't a name that all evil belongs to, nor a villains, there is simply a dark side to a light side.
They are Eldians that were transformed in titans to kill other Eldians, the titans only represent the people that hate their own kind (race). Like today, white people are brainwashed since young to hate white people.
BERSERK deserves a Philosophy episode!
La Li Lu Le Lo Major agreed
La Li Lu Le Lo Major yyyyaaassssss please
We need one on the berserk manga, not just one limited to the anime.
yessss
soooo correct
I disagree with the inequality part
Erwin uses the phrase 'we cannot defeat the titans as long as we dont suffer equally' or something like that
there is a reason why erwin chose to lure female titan in the most secure wall, he knew that if the rich are safe, humanity will never be able to defeat the titans, in fact thats one of the reasons why erwin chose wall sina to conduct his operations in the first place. He also wanted to show the rich that they are equally vulnerable as the poor. this is further proven when the rich merchant is forcing people to squeeze his cart in the wall's tunnel in order to secure money when there is a food shortage after the wall's destruction, he uses his gaurds to force people to push the cart in the tunnel rather than letting people escape. and mikasa fixes that guy up
While you are right about what Erwin states, he himself is not the state. So the inequality/caste system still works because that is the institutional power. Erwin is essentially speaking truth to the system, so your point is interesting for how season 2 will reveal itself.
Tookar I already read the manga.... There's not much inequality suggested in season 2 apart from one arc
good that you noticed that classes in society have disavanteges like privileges for a few and mass starvation for the poor
the only perfect societies capable of being actually accomplished are ones similair to schimits, all others are simply idialism. of course we should never seek a world where a person is used and thrown away like that but if society falls apart, facism must rise to recreate order. and it works, as seen in nazi germany. nazi germany not only had to pay massive war debt to the allied powers from ww1 due to them being blamed for it but also there was a world wide "great depression" so germanies money was fuckign shit, and there military? none. but nazi ideology turned it all around through nazi rule they became an empire capable of easily taking a country that had kept them at bay for all of ww1. now did they kill millions of innocent people to meet this goal? yes, however it can be argued in a time of massive crisis like that laid forth in attack on titan facist regimes become necessary even though they are not ethical
the bloodbath
Aleric can conquer a decayed and dying Rome, doesn't mean he'll get anything close to what it originally was. A leader is depends on his subordinates for everything he does; the wellbeing of a group is entirely reliant on the character of its people.
Seems strange to me that you could analyze Attack on Titan without mentioning the idea of the Jungian Shadow,
of properly integrating your inner monster to be able to stand up to the monsters outside.
This show always seemed to me to be about how the problems posed by the world aren't going to go away, even if you close yourself within a walled-off "safe space". You can either confront the monsters, by manifesting your own monstrosity, or tell yourself that you can hide - only to later watch them grow larger and tear down your walls.
Jesus fucking christ. This makes me appreciate the show even more.
found the Peterson fan! interesting point of view, though
That is by far the most real shit I've ever read today.
While German nationalism was obvious, I seen Jung all over it. Integrating the shadow, needing a goal or responsibility, facing insurmountable obstacles to find out what you need to know about yourself.
I studied psychotherapy at college and Jung is rarely fully understood by lecturers, let alone people like me.
Essentially “Toxic masculinity”
They literally wear brown shirts
100 LOL XD
wait what do the brown shirts represent? Weren't the Jews forced to wear stripes?
Brown shirts were part of the Hitler Youth and wider military uniform during WWII. They encouraged uniformity and a sense of equality amongst shoulders. They even went as far as to hand out free brown shirts to kids even if they weren't part of the Hitler Youth in an attempt to seem "Right" and "Good" thus encouraging them to join up to Hitler Youth. Hope this helps! :)
Hexinghaley They used brown because it was a readily available uniform in large numbers after the war due to the huge economic strain on the country during the 20's and 30's... The brown was used by the SA (The Nazi parties original paramilitary called the Sturmabteilung or SA that protected pro Nazi rallies and disrupted and fought non-Nazi parties) and then yes, used by the H.J (Hitler Youth)
MetroStalker It was actually surplus uniforms from the German colonial troops whom were disbanded once their overseas colonies were lost following the war.
"we are gonna use dub because otherwise we would have subtitles all the time"
**constantly uses subtitles anyway**
HECKproductions that's dead ass mad trueeeee tho
HECKproductions ikr that was bothering me
My thoughts exactly
HECKproductions maybe it's because the different subtitles would just cause even more clutter.
They only brought in the subtitles when they were specifically talking about character dialogue that was important to the discussion. also using visuals to underline audio adds more oomph to the words.
Anime:
"People in the walls are Nazi Germany"
Manga:
LOLOL
ikr
actually I guess both the people in the walls and out the walls are nazis
Both marleyans and eldians are nazis
Both are lol
Yep eldians are nazi x 10000
Nazis are cute child to compare.
Eldians, it's 2000 years of total domination of other nation and the éradication of all of them to the end.
Yep nazis are friendly to compare.
There is also a strong element of Utilitarian philosophy in Attack on Titan like how characters repeatedly ask if they or there loved one's were "useful" and also how people are constantly being sacrificed for the "greater good"
In my philosophy class they shouldn't take homework from philosophers if they don't watch episodes of attack on titans
now cover the manga part, there are way more politics and philosophies for you guys to crack. The season one that you just covered, is just 1% of the story
Anh Anh 1% duh
But still, this makes the twists in the manga even more interesting.
SPOILER:
Like the fact that even the dire situation that should require such a government is still artificial. Not only dark times need dark governments, but these dark governments will self-perpetrate themselves by spawning the dark times of tomorrow.
Anh Anh yep, we now knew that that are some former enemy fought us by our past sins looking for an excuse of "chauvinism" to took over the mainland and isolated their former enemies to took over their former enemies "glory", but in the other hand, the "us" are threatening the whole world by waking up 10.000 giants to stomped the whole world and try to take back their former glory...
if you know what i mean, SPOILER ALERT! its about how Marley and Eldian conflicts works, its nearly as much the same as how german loose in WW1 by the allies and then rise again to became the main villain (again)
#cmiiw
Let face the reality. Story wise, it isn't that great. It has a great plot how ever. The characters feel empty, except for Jean :p It is the action scenes in the anime, it is the battle tactics and plans and how they are clearly delivered with great map references. The manga, goes into the depth of the politics, plus the paneling is really something. Its traditional manga, but it is like the artist was more inspired by films.
Manga art and story is done by one person, I can critique it and compliment is, still doesn't change the fact its achievement speaks for itself.
Films Go TV you’re pretty simple minded aren’t you? .... just go watch Soul videos to see the character development that you ( for some stupid reason ) missed
2:01 No, actually Attack on Titan sticks to the manga in EACH AND EVERY way, it's one of those rare animes that change nothing from the manga to the anime.
most successful shows are faithful to their source material.
Draco the Anime Dragon it changed eren a lot, and replaced armin with mikasa a few times
Truth be told... Game of Thrones is much inferior to ASOIF.
What is asoif
Tyr Myrmidon a song of fire and ice is a novel series. The show is based on it.
"we're covering the tv show, not the manga. They're going different anyway."
No they aren't.
Abhinav Rajagopalan they will be
Oh so you've seen season 2 of Attack on Titan? A season that hasn't even finished yet? That's so weird.
I heard that the creators or somebody said that S2 was going to be a "big departure" from the manga.
Fearl no the anime won't fucking departure from the manga it's going to follow it like season 1. have you even watched the trailer. stop believing bullshit click bait articles.
Hyrum Larson from a unreliable clcikbait source
This video was way ahead of it's time honestly. You saw so many of these things coming in advance.
Philosophy of Death Note
" " Monster
" " Puella Magi Madoka Magica
" " Danganronpa (the franchise)
" " Monogatari
" " Re:Zero
I dont want to say that it is a dumb show, but I think the ideas behind Re:Zero were very basic, and not very consistent.
'TisWandy Not to forget the fucking trap.
Philosophy of the monogatari series would be cool... its so long yet confusing and interesting.
Re:zero was sooooooo over hyped, not saying it was shit tho
don't forget Neon Genesis Evangelion!
Honestly, this series has a lot more political-philosophical themes than people give it credit for. Also, with what's been happening in the manga recently, it makes this whole discussion so much more interesting...
Beatness I was going to post the same thing, but you beat me to it. The manga has been super awesome lately.
Beatness
In the manga, it's focussing more on the political and social structure way more. It provides it with a much more realistic, interesting, thought provoking, and debatable take to the story. Introducing more aspects of axiology, logic, reason, ethics, and morality. The choice between Erwin and Armin was an illustration between doing what is "right" and doing what is "good."
Good = Subjective = Armin/Eren
Right = Objective = Erwin/Levi
One cannot really say which choice was really the correct one.
Fucking sick of these damn time skips though every 4 chapters.
If you are gonna do anime, I feel Death Note would be a great video.
Syberous +1
I think it's too complex for ANY channel (Kira Smile)
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agreed, it's an amazing anime, I would love to watch a video about it from wisecrack
Season 3 just blew this video clear out of the water.
Not really
@@yonas6832 Why not?
Other than some theories about the plot that we now know are wrong such as the cause of the Titans... The PHILOSOPHY still applies. If anything, it gets reinforced with the inclusion of Marley and history of Eldia.
Spoiler alert
The whole point of seasons 3 and 4 is that people inside the walls are not that different from people outside the walls. The only difference is how much knowledge (power) they have.
@@randomdude354 also the fact that they can become Titans and same for all eldians. Eldians arnt really similar to normal humans of the world if u think. One founding Titan can control the entire race and affect their thoughts and memories.
looking forward to an analysis of FMA:Brotherhood
Sam Brickey there ate already great channels for that. Im just glad pop culture is bringing anime to the attention. Maybe somebody watching this will watch it and come into anime. Then im sure they will Discovery FMA brotherhood. It was indeed very good
Sam Brickey thats the probaly one of the best anime ever created
IT IS the best
GOD, YES!
+Sam Brickey well it's mainly about religion and mankind's strife to become like god isn't it?
The Attack on Titan manga has answered so much. It feels a waste to just focus on what the anime has covered.
I think knowing what happens in the manga helps this theory.
Example, the actions of the first king and the actions every king since has chosen to take. I'd rather not say what, but I'm pretty sure you should know what I'm talking about. The creating an enemy to survive thing
M Wadud Mind spoiling it for me? I don't mind spoilers.
could you tell me how to read the manga (chronology wise) would be well appreciated
the attack on titan manga also literally confrimed this video's phelosaphy. the titans are there to stop world war from happening... pure and simple
start it from i think chapter 35
"Eliminate one enemy, and another one pops up, until there are no people left to kill except your own population."
...yeah, Season 4 shows this perfectly.
In my philosophy class they shouldn't take homework from philosophers if they don't watch episodes of attack on titans
the fundamental flaw with Schmits theory is that they need an enemy to keep the people from fighting each other. However the people would fight against each other because of inequality making enemies with each other based on differences. However, Shmit doesn't see a point in fixing that inequality, just diverting their focus to a common enemy. This works but the ultimate and best solution would be to bring fairness. If the titans left, if there was no work toward equality, then the people would fight each other. However, if after the titans left, the walls dividing the classes were torn down, and the social issues were worked on to get fixed, there could potentially be peace. Schmits main problem is that he doesn't actually believe in peace and therefore sees no need to work toward it.
That's his point, people want to oppose something. If you fix current reasons people fight over, they will find new reasons. You can see this is our society.. even though women have equal rights, they now start to bitch about minor issues. Once those are fixed, they'll find new ones.
Once we stop fighting over race and sex, we'll fight over what kind of pants we wear.
+Lilliath
You already see this online. People wishing others death because they like different shows than them. They have nothing to fight about, so they see someone with slightly different tastes and see red.
One of the main facets of Schmitts philosophy is that inequality is inherent. People have different levels of intelligence, attractiveness, and success. Interestingly enough the show Code Geass touches on this as well in the Britannian Empire. They are the most successful and powerful country because they use the strengths of human nature and conflict to their advantage. The result is a dystopian reality where fairness is irrelevant and after watching this I'm starting to see a lot of parallels between the societies from both shows. The general consensus seems to be that this way of thought definitely works, but are the human rights violations worth the stability and progress?
Communism never works
as the current personally motivated people we are yes, but we should ultimately work toward it
I bet you if the titans disappeared, they would find and fight another society of humans
Science Smash u know like the real world ?
Read the manga lol
When they disappear we get a crappy spin off years later that CN runs into the ground because MONEYZZZZZZZZZ
That's actually what is about to happen in the manga...
Hydrak Chew doesn't even make sense.
DEATH NOTE !!!!!!!!!
1 hour video
+++!
Wow. It looks like some would even call life within the walls “Paradis”
Philosophy of *Death Note* !!
they should do this when the live action tv series comes out.
A Live Action TV series already came out. Or do you mean an AMERICAN Live Action TV series?
Well, that certainly is going to suck... Remember Dragon Ball Evolution? American live action adaptations of Japanese productions suck.
@Lucas Liso
Not necessarily. Edge of Tomorrow was an American adaptation of the manga All You Need is Kill, and it was pretty great.
And its not the only one. Several western movies were adaptations of Japanese ideas. But the movies not being titled "All You Need is Kill" is kind of the key there. When the series is named EXACTLY like the Japanese counterpart, I usually find that its a cash grab to lure fans of the original to see something that ends up disappointing and being terrible overall. American made Godzilla movies, for example, weren't good.
I would ask for a "The Philosophy of Starship Troopers" but I guess it would be too similar to Attack on Titan given the film is a satire on the novel's military fascism.
I think they’ve made one now
The Politics of Starship Troopers
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i am German and the thing they say at the begining basicly says "They are the food, we are the hunters"
I think it's meant to be "Sind Sie das Essen? Nein, wir sind der Jäger", which is "Are you the food? No, we are the hunter", In the show, this represents refusal to hide and let the Titans hunt them down. Instead they are going out to meet them. The hunted becomes the hunter,
Here I am wondering how the hell I never realized that line was in German....
Seriously, the last word was Jager. That's the, like, second most common German word used by non-Germans. How could I have missed that?
Have you heard the full length of the intro song? There is a rather long passage done in a proper, good German. Most likely by a native speaker. Search for Guren no Yumiya (Scharlachroter Pfeil und Bogen)
Uses Dub to not have subtitles, uses subtitles anyway?!
cheeky wisecrack
meh some people mainly listen to these videos
That's cause you don't want to have two subtitles overlap and confuse people you dumbass
Uses Dub to not have subtitles, uses subtitles anyway, confuses people who focused too much on the layout of the video and not the point the subtitles were meant to emphasize?
I'm sure they wanted their own subtitles to emphasize parts of the dialogue. Why have two sets?
this should be revisited now that we've reached the rumbling
Philosophy of *STUDIO GHIBLI* FILMS! I'd suggest Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, Porco Rosso, Naussicaa of the Valley of the Wind, or Laputa: Castle in the Sky :)
Yes!
Also Howl's Moving Castle
I personally didn't enjoy it as much as the ones I've listed above. Still good, but a little messy, as a film.
The book is so much better! There's a key point in about Sophie's magic that the film rips out and repurposes. SPOILER:
It's the fact that she has her own magic/power pre-Howl, and it works well for her, but she's just not aware of it because of her self-esteem based on her perception of fairytales (though not explicitly stated). Versus the movie where the first instance we see of Sophie's power seems to come out in reaction to Howl's crisis. Not a bad narrative, but strange how Miyazaki's films, usually featuring female empowerment, would change this. The Witch of the Waste changed a lot too.
From Indonesia: I'm glad that I've finally found a smart, intelligent channel that actually discusses the deeper meanings & philosophy in anime (although not all anime obviously are worth such deep, critical, smart & intelligent level of discussions).
Keep up the great work! there seriously needs to be more channels (or even people) like you/yours, in our sadly shallow, superficial, & stupid world/Human's society.
Yeah, it's nice to find Wisecrack. Especially since our own political system is straddling the Grey line of political authoritarianism/liberty than most western countries, being a functioning democracy that outlaws communism & atheism, and yet allowing wider press freedom than our neighbours Singapore and Malaysia.
Niki Wonoto oh kamu dari mana bro?
Niki Wonoto this channel also made mistakes bcuz they havent watched season 2 bcuz it wasnt out yet
your english is supernaturally good for an indonesian
Dranreb its normal for us, maybe he studies on an international school, or maybe he is just smart. Why do people see indonesians as a stupid country anyways?
Nobody:
Wisecrack: we chose dub so there won't be subtitles all over the screen.
Also wisecrack: proceeds to put on English subtitles on the screen.
Exactly what I said
dub is better
"we're using the anime not the manga cause they're going to be different anyway" shows who didn'tread the manga
Not So Human However slight a preference of difference there is within the manga, it's there.
I didn't read the manga(;_;)
Doesn't make any sense. Your comment that is.
They are different tho. In season 3 they cut out a lot of content and now in s4 their cutting content again
@@RobotWizard4209 A lot of shows have to cut content for time while keeping the story mostly the same. Full metal Alchemist Brotherhood did it. And going by when the manga and anime are slated to end they are doing the same as fma and having the last episode and chapter come out at the same time.
What i meant was they were implying that the anime would go off manga like Tokyo Ghoul did. Which would make sense considering how long the manga takes to come out and the nazi allegories but that isnt what theyre doing as far as I can tell. The furtherest they may take it is alter the ending because the author can't make up his mind
Sniper: "Cause at the end of the day, long as there's two people left on the planet, someone is gonna want someone dead."
the mist:"get more than 2 of us in a room for more than an hour and we start taking sides"
The Abortion I'd like baked potato please.
Very interesting, given the recent revelations in the manga
Aye bruh Hannes ain’t no coward watch yourself
Really? We need a pause in the intro to say "Nazis r bad!"? Stop it. This is stupid. People who cant tell the discussion of and the acceptance of, as two separate things do not need to be given the importance and attention they demand.
Valentinus Aurelius pewdiepies channel has had massive repercussions just from joking about being anti Semitic, after being wrongly accused. it's sad but now that stuff is necessary.
It's sad to say, but it really is necessary to tell people the the Nazis were bad.
Honestly, this is a better political/philosophical discussion than Schmitt's ideas themselves. Thought crimes, intellectual censorship, and accusation + bandwagon-ing is outright killing intellectual discourse and conversation these days. It may be "necessary" to add disclaimers to prevent violent retaliation, but that in itself is suffocating thorough analysis. Having a disclaimer and a pre-established "this dude is evil" predisposes your opinion against what is being said, without ever hearing a word. This makes it extremely difficult to honestly analyze and decide if there is any merit to what is being said, or whether or not there you can distinguish and separate poisonous parts of a philosophy from other, more constructive elements. Unfortunately, that ends up almost being a human neurological flaw as opposed to simply a societal or cultural one. And one without any clear solution.
How so?
You underestimate people's pure stupidity, Yes there are people who unwittingly already following this sort of ideology. America is scapegoating immigrants, making them a common enemy. And doing it in a dangerous unjustifiable manner. People aren't often making the important distinction between legal and illegal immigrants and people are already losing their lives because people are so stupid they can't tell the difference. East Indian engineer was shot in a bar and died because the shooter likely mistook him as a Muslim. Indians are rarely Muslim they're usually Buddhist or Sikh, also real Muslims do not go to bars. Did that stop the illiterate from slaughtering him? People really are that stupid, count yourself lucky you aren't that dumb
You should do Philosophy of Bebop or Evangelion
Jojo's Bebop Evangelion
Rachael Lefler must be the work of an Enemy stand
Rachael Lefler Cowboys Bizarre Evangelion
or
Neon Bebops Adventure
Chloe Katz If you want a going to want a breakdown of Cowboy Bebop then watch "You're going to carry that weight" by Digibro
4:48 "Most millionaires would see severe inequality as something to be repaired".
Hahahahaha! Good one.
They do, but not for good reason. Most millionaire companies do support a $15 min wage for example, it's small or local businesses that do not support it.
@@romanempire8705 Exactly. It's not kindness, it's a business strategy. While small businesses are opposed, they'll support a $15 minimum wage in addition to other ways to suppress small businesses. (Look up "Predatory Pricing" and how many tax subsidies go to larger businesses VS small ones).
When the small businesses die out, large ones can lobby to lower the minimum wage and raise prices.
I think he said "media Narratives"
He said media narratives
your best "Philosophy of..." to date....keep it up
Hope you guys come back and re-examine this series with the releases of seasons two and three. Thanks for all the quality content.
In my philosophy class they shouldn't take homework from philosophers if they don't watch episodes of attack on titans
Attack on Titan is one of the best animes that I've seen by far.
Let the salty comments begin.
#AttackOnTitan
I love to activate the english subs in this video. ♥
therisj
obviously not much
True but my favourite anime is hunter x hunter I've never been so emotionally invested in an anime before in my life AOT used to be my favourite though
Shingeki no Kyojin is one of the best mangas I have ever read and it most certainly beats the anime (even though the anime is still great).
+therisj Too many to realize this.
I'm tired of One Piece endless story and HxH author will die before he complete his work and Beserk... will never end too.
So...
6:45 - 6:51 After watching season 3 this line means a lot more... 🙃
Here are recommendations: Berserk, FMA, Death Note, Ergo Proxy, Monster, Steins;Gate, Serial Lain, Ghost in th Shell, Akira, anything from Ghibli, anything from Satoshi Kon this is what happens when you open the anime flood gates
666melodeath666 No hxh? -infinity/10 list
M3: the dark metal
666melodeath666
Why thank you I will :D!
dont forget ben10 XD
Pixi Star Ben 10 is a good anime spongebob is better and Cory in the House is the best
If we are doing Anime now, here is just 5 that comes to mind off the top of my head; Psychopass, Death Note, Ghost In the Shell (Any season or the movies) Parasyte, Paranoia Agent. That's just the ones I haven't see anyone else mention in the comments.
I think my favorite part of the theme of this show and it’s society is how it constantly does badass shit and is doing a badass theme song and then people just die brutally and without any glory.
The nationalistic military society emphasizes dying for your nation and giving your hearts, but they just get crushed and slapped around and eaten. It makes the viewer terrified of war, terrified of the military and it crushes the image of glorious battle and dying for your country
In my philosophy class they shouldn't take homework from philosophers if they don't watch episodes of attack on titans
This actually explains the first kings ideology very well
Do Full Metal Alchemist!!
Hue Hue It has to be Brotherhood or no dice 😂 Brotherhood is better. Fight me.
Do the philosophy of Berserk.
BulgarianFan That manga is just straight up porn violence.
Horacio Trujillo Jr To be fair, the manga is actually way more darker, bleaker, and violent than the anime. I just warning what you are getting into. The extreme violence and terror may seem clique, but it's unique since it's panels are professional done as a Gothic and Cosmic Horror elements which it's plot originality is equal to Gothic and Cosmic Horror novels such as Matthew Lewis's The Monk, John Milton's Paradise Lost, and H.P Lovecraft's Call of Cthulhu. Aside from that, if you actually see through the sexual content and gore, there is an actual narrative that Kentaro Muira is presenting at a near philosophic level (no other manga or anime made me remember Alder's personality theory or Plato's Theory of Forms) and its payoff is great and badass-epic. The theme that the narrative that is pointed out constantly is the theme of morality (good and evil) and making the reader ask the existential question "is morally natural or just a social construct of humans?"
"Anime & manga, they're going to be different anyway."
Oh boy we have a news for you~
I think after the titans disappeared, humanity would resemble the American society in the 1840's. Heavy optimism about expansion from the walls.
not sure why manga readers are saying the video is irrelevant now, I mean of course the events in season 4 change everything and a lot of new philosophies have been introduced but the core ideas and speculations presented here arent necessarily gone now.The theory of the Titan's purpose is a bit off but It wasn't exactly wrong about government conspiracies for population control. Basically just change the idea of the common enemy being titans to Eldians in the worlds POV, just on a grander and more complex way now.
Eren replied to Pixis' comment that he hasn't noticed humanity uniting in the face of the danger the titans present. But sure, leave it out if that strengthens your argument.
Yeah, I’ve been getting an impression that many of their arguments come off as predetermined and forced.
A lot of Wisecrack videos, in my experience, sound smart until you watch a video about material that you are familiar with, at which point you wonder if they even watched the same thing you did.
@@Nemo12417 Freemason propaganda if I had to guess, but thats just a #ConspiracyTheory ™ ¹⁹⁶⁷ ᵗʰᵉ ᶜᶦᵃ'ˢ ²⁵⁰ ᵐᵉᵈᶦᵃ ᶜᵒᵐᵖᵃⁿᶦᵉˢ
And his retort goes nowhere as Pixis’ speech defines how the story moves forwards and the final panels prove it right. So nope, it isn’t a theme the show supported. The show fully supports what Pixis said instead.
Blame hacksayama, it really wasn’t a good idea to make this philosophy your entire story.
And out of context, but a character denying another character isn’t proof of anything regarding what the show supports. But you’re right in this scene in particular, Eren was framed to be in the « right » by disagreeing with that suggestion and Pixis even agreed with Eren.
Too bad the hack forgets about it and makes the series exactly about that.
I started to watch this video simply because I like your content and as you started to describe the Anime I was like "this sounds deep and well thought out", now I do not watch Anime at aaall but then moment you said spoilers I decided to binge watch this Anime, started this morning and I'm done and now I shall resume with this video lol god dammit that Anime was goooood!
Jorge Polanco Good, maybe you can look into proper punctuation now.
I did the same thing
Season 2 is coming
you made a very wise decision lol
Jorge Polanco FMA is better. aot has shallow characters, horrible pacing and is just childish and edgey
Oh God they are using the dub
Sub > Dub
Corvo Attano So?
Aaron Moylan weebs
Alex Franco
Eren's roar in Japanese = Badass and epic
Eren's roar in English = A cat being ran over by a steamroller played in reverse
Aaron Moylan *Ro roller da
Good intentions can lead to hell and bad intentions can save a people. We have all always known this, known that whether a man is good or bad, his alignment to morality has no bearing on his ability and proficiency.
So, I guess what I would suggest is that we examine the theory, not as a Nazi theory, but as a theory used by Nazi's that exists in a conceptual state that does not adhere to morality.
Not vouching for Shmit's idea, but even if it is a deeply flawed and, frankly, depressing theory, we may be able to slice it up and use the useful, practical bits, or at least examine the causes that led him to believe what he did.
Because even if his solution is total bupkis, the issue, a large portion of people NEEDING to fight, may be real and need a proper solution.
DudeWatches shhh intelligence is not allowed on UA-cam
Almost every powerful political entity has used the idea of making an external enemy a scapegoat to achieve unity within their following base. An outside enemy is a powerful way of uniting people, he was right about that. It's also true that we'll never get rid of either biological inequality or our inherent drive to fight. But you're right, his solution doesn't work in real life. There was some unity achieved in Germany by scapegoating and in Japan during the war but in both cases, you still had a lot of internal conflict within the country, not stability. And ancient Egypt had the longest-lasting social stability without a need for external threats. Invasions from outside made them less politically stable, not more united as one culture. Their religiousness and devotion to order made them politically stable over time.
+The Legend Never Dies It's not that intelligence is not allowed, it's that you have to realize that intellectualizing issues has an inherent danger. It's the whole, "staring into the abyss" thing. The more you examine and attempt to understand something, the more you are at risk of empathizing with it. This is a strange thing to say, because we usually see empathy as a good thing. However, we tend to forget that we don't view being a nazi sympathizer as a good thing. Sometimes, it's just safer to keep things at an arms length. Some boundaries NEED to be set lest we risk falling into the abyss. Sometimes, the difference between good and evil for someone is not ignorance, but knowledge.
"The causes that led him to believe what he did" are unfiltered reality. Modern countries are either, no different to Schmitt's model or are currently undergoing "cultural enrichment" as the politicians like to call it.
LilDP That's a good excuse for not watching the vid. I didn't want anyway, but there was this strive for self-education on philosophy, or something, and I was struggling. Thx for that.
0:56 its actually "they are the food and we are the hunters." Sie sind das Essen und wir sind die Jäger.
Do the philosophy of Deathnote
> Guy was a piece of shit
Sure, poison the well straight out 😉
Mouate Pretty hard to take things seriously when you have childish disclaimers as that
ᄆ childish? the guy was a piece of shit. No two ways about it.
With that disclaimer there I found it quite easy to filter what the actual philosophy and what WC's opinion of it was. Once it is clear, where the author wants to go with his analysis you can quite easily got something useful out of his work while not necessarily buying into his opinion.
+Lucas Valladares The problem though is that if you start out from the beginning with a disclaimer that "this guy was a piece of shit" you can't properly understand or consider is theories. If one is trying to gain understanding that becomes a large hindrance because you've already placed judgement. Also, simply saying "he's a piece of shit" is at best an ad hominem attack and at worst intellectual laziness, to just dismiss someone based on association. That type of lazy attitude is part of the problem with so many issues in the world. Simply dismissing someone or their ideas doesn't get rid of them.
Lucas Valladares If so, and if his philosophy mirrored his personality, then there is no need for anybody to spoon feed you that he was a shitty person.
You would come to that conclusion like a big boy.
WSJ is so triggered right now
Wall Street Journal
+Laughing Tree Wall Street Journal.... in reference to them calling pewdiepie racist for using Nazi imagery in his jokes..
Jonathan George rip joke.
haha i always missread WSJ as SJW for some reason.
Araanor new conspiracy theory
Death Note
One Piece
Prison Break
The Sopranos
The Wire
Vikings
Game of Thrones (I don't think you have made a video on this yet)
Pokémon
The Man in the High Castle
Lucifer
Smiley Abedi Spec Ops: the Line wiukd make for a great episode even though that episode would be a minefield of spoilers.
Opening like nazi propaganda? Are you mad? Almost every action/adventure anime opening looks like that.
Kuroi Kaze That still doesn't make it right.
Kuroi Kaze As someone who watches a shit ton of anime, especially action anime, I can confirm their IS something different about attack on titan openings thay are clearly different than others
I always found something especially eerie and mind numbing terrifying about Attack on Titan and hearing that comparison suddenly everything clicked.
Aerliker1234, I agree. Watching the show I would skip the opening and there's always been a sense of real unease with it. At first I thought it was just the titans and the horror, but quickly I realised that it was more than that; other horror shows don't give me that feeling and often that emotion was during the characters monologing or when seeing the military in action. Like you, as I watched this episode I realised that it was the philosophy and Nazi/fascist behaviour that was putting me on edge. I do love the show though, normally I dislike anime.
Really interested to see an updated version of this video with season 3 now out with Commander Erwin's glorious speech :P
philosophy of psychopass
It's crazy that this is coming from a real hypocrite, using a scapegoat.
please do fullmetal alchemist brotherhood
Please do Fullmetal Alchemist.
Loved the brilliant twists in the storyline.
Eren wasn’t the cliche chosen one. He was the judgmental kid who craved justice. And the very thing that he demonized he became. He then saw there was more to these monsters than meets the eye. And now, his motives are no longer about revenge, but seeking the truth about the Titans in order to best serve his purpose.
Always great to see the good animes evaluated for their philsophical, ideological and aesthetic qualities. As someone who just finished season 1, the video is very insightful and explanatory. Thanks Wisecrack!
I am suddenly reminded of the Dead Rising 2 Quote: "It's not the zombies you have to worry about, it's the people." Which was said right before a psychopath boss fight and is in the same game that reveals that the government are making zombie outbreaks to make more zombie cure for both cash and keeping important people alive.
So you say you went for the Dub version so you didnt have to put subtitles all over the video, BUT YOU STILL HAVE SUBTITLES ALL OVER THE VIDEO!!!
DhDeadMan It would be more difficult to edit the subtitles while they're part of the video file. It's easier to edit them as a separate thing.
TATAKAE!
Repeat after me: PHILOSOPHY OF UNDERTALE!!!
Gonna have to make a part 2 because the entire aspect and themes of the show changes in season 4
When and where does season two come out?
Ian Ron April 1st
+Maple Tea I'm Getting More Anime For My Birthday Month YAY
April 1st? Sounds like some type of prank to me...
Ian Ron next month
Birthnote A few anime are legit released on April 1st. The info is out there, look around.
LISTEN THEY DIDNT WANT SUB BECAUSE THWN THEY WOULD HAVE 2 SUBTITILES IN THERE, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
Yet, they are basing some of the analysis on the dub, and dubs are often at odds with the original script because some US distributers prefer to make up new dialog that matches the lip movement rather than use an actual translation of the original dialog.
Of course, it is possible that I simply don't remember the dialog they are citing, but I don't have time to watch the entire series again to find out whether it really existed in the original Japanese or not.
I did do some spot comparisons of dub vs sub for this show, and the dub does come across as less substantial and significantly altered in meaning for at least some scenes.
do hunter x hunter
Ahmed Tahir YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association you live up to your name lol
Ahmed Tahir i agree, man the chimera ant arc was really something else
Justice Holloman
Thanks!
I like learning about things I never watched before
This just illustrates how brilliant this anime really is
*AOT IS A MASTERPIECE*
More Attack on Titan videos pretty please? I'd love to see a breakdown of Eren, Erwin, Armin etc.!!
I find it super funny that you guys figured it out immediately but now that the manga has made the connection super explicit the Internet is freaking out about it
Why does everyone think that the anime is gonna differ from the manga? The trailer looked almost identical to the manga material for season 2(I am up to date with the manga) also the producers would not wait so long for MANGA MATERIAL if they were just gonna differ from the original material :/ it does not add up. (plus season one is almost identical to the manga as well)
I agree from all I've seen it follows the manga pretty well and there's a bunch of side anime that spends time on parts of the manga that was missed in the nain anime
Spoilers, Erwin becomes King, not Historia.
Ummmm.. Death note plzzzzzz :DDDD
This is really interesting, you should update this video now that y'all have two more seasons of material to expand on
He who would live must fight. He who doesn't wish to fight in this world, where permanent struggle is the law of life, has not the right to exist.
Ok Adolf
Technically we live in a world where we don't have permanent struggle anymore. We don't actually have to fight anyone but our own stupidity :P
Yeah this philosophy still holds true in the manga.
spoilers.
Eren might turn kind of hitler he has set his sight in killing the other race.
jessie briones titans are jews
Death Note
Цветан Ганчев YES.
As someone up to date with the manga, I hadn't realized who RIGHT PIXIS WAS!!.
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Look at that foreshadowing!!!!!
the English dub it's actually good
Kevin Pereira agreed. I like both subs and dubs. Sometimes dubs do suck but when amines get good studious and dub the episodes well they don't even get credit due to weebs' bias. Hell even some subs I've watched have been shittier than the dubs
iSuperEagle yeah well I usually watch it with Spanish subs which is my main language so I don't even thing about watching the English dub, but that one is pretty good
Kevin Pereira That's fair enough!👍🏻
"I have little doubt that the giant whom Jack killed did regard himself as the Superman. It is likely enough that he considered Jack a narrow and parochial person who wished to frustrate a great forward movement of the life-force. If (as not unfrequently was the case) he happened to have two heads, he would point out the elementary maxim which declares them to be better than one. He would enlarge on the subtle modernity of such an equipment, enabling a giant to look at a subject from two points of view, or to correct himself with promptitude.
But Jack was the champion of the enduring human standards, of the principle of one man one head and one man one conscience, of the single head and the single heart and the single eye. Jack was quite unimpressed by the question of whether the giant was a particularly gigantic giant. All he wished to know was whether he was a good giant - that is, a giant who was any good to us. What were the giant's religious views; what his views on politics and the duties of the citizen? Was he fond of children - or fond of them only in a dark and sinister sense ? To use a fine phrase for emotional sanity, was his heart in the right place? Jack had sometimes to cut him up with a sword in order to find out.
The old and correct story of Jack the Giant-Killer is simply the whole story of man; if it were understood we should need no Bibles or histories."
G.K. Chesterton 'Heretics', chapter 5.
Death Note PREAZ!
imagine commander Erwin in german dubbed version when he is yelling .
like Hitler,s generals perhaps.
This was a really good video. When I saw TOT season1, I thought it was kickass show with lots of awesome action. Reas the manga and I notice there were deeper thoughts and meaning then meets the eye. This vid showed me that those deeper thoughts where there from the beginning. Thanks man
Ive seen season2 and read the manga and everything but this review still gave me a lot to think about. You did a really good job with this!
Sooo if the people in the show are Nazis, does that make the titans Jews?
ThatOneDude Not really. If we are going to stick with the Nazi Germany similie, the Titans would be more symbolic of Communism and Democracy; i.e. The Soviets and Western Allies. Though this would also apply to a German Empire similie, or a Roman Empire similie. In all these instances, the respective States were, for all intents and purposes, surrounded by enemies that desired nothing less than their destruction and, in response to this very real threat, resorted to dehumanization of said enemies, militarization of their populous and put a massive emphasis on nationalism and racial and ideological superiority.
The Philosophy of Regular Show!
Benjamin Abramowitz interesting...
Quick question: Given the recent developments in season 3 is there any chance this could get a part two? I think the creators have definitely addressed the themes and moral questions this video highlighted so I'd love to see a wise crack breakdown of Season 3 when it's over(:
do you know if the owners of this channel make part 2 of their videos?...i hope so, any prove? :(
In my philosophy class they shouldn't take homework from philosophers if they don't watch episodes of attack on titans
I would like to suggest the film Arrival. I feel like their is a lot to talk about in that movie and I would love to hear what you guys have to say.
"We went dub so we wouldn't have subtitles"
10:26 >puts subtitles on anyway
evangelion. i dare you.
Brandon Madden It's just gibberish made up by a guy who had no idea what the symbolism he used means, he just used it because it looks cool, this even applies to the tittle. Therefore his work is bereft of meaning.
+Mike Gonzalez 2 deep 4u I suppose.
evangelion is basically human motivation and the desire of the "perfect society"
Please do Evangelion.
There's all kinds of stuff that show addresses: the conflict in trying evolve or perfect humanity; the nature of relationships, separation, identity and self worth; the moral ambiguity of war, state secrecy and using WMDs?
I feel like there's a lot to talk about, even without getting into AT fields, the Oedipal stuff, the 'Evas are moms/ cockpit is a womb' thing, or everybody turning into Tang
Quote from Animerica: "Evangelion is garbage written by committee with no consistent story or sanity. And now, thanks to all the BS of the original series, 3.33 has successfully destroyed the film franchise. But I'm sure delusion says otherwise." "All "symbolism" in Eva is accidental. The show was dictated by committee and constantly shifting to match fan expectations. It was created in the worst way possible. It is a boring, pretentious, insane mess. The movies were faring MUCH better, with 2.22 being one of the best anime movies I've ever seen... but the 3rd movie had ZERO "character development" and was 99% empty mythos babble that was not explained, established, foreshadowed, or explored in the slightest. It's as though the movie remake expects the audience to have watched the entire series and understand all the nonsense being spat onto the screen. Well, if that's the case, THEN WHY BOTHER WATCHING THE MOVIE?! If they're going to devolve into the exact same crap that made the series so convoluted and incomprehensible, why bother? But yes, I must be too "retarded." Clearly. Thank you for demonstrating what I have about Eva fans and the series in general. Everybody makes empty, unsubstantiated claims that there's all this meaning and symbolism, but when I challenge them on it, they scream obscenities and call names. Because that makes you right." "To conclusively prove my point, I only need three words: End of Evangelion. The writers, director, and everybody behind the project had so little concept of any significance behind what they were doing that they had no inkling whatsoever of how to resolve it. Even after trying TWICE. That tells me that they were making it up as they went along and had no grand intentions, plans, or message. None. The creators themselves have no idea what either of the endings mean, both of which contradict each other and make everything A MORONIC MESS OF COLOSSAL PROPORTIONS. I have sat through lectures by UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS on the relevance, symbolism, and profundity of Evangelion, but by simply checking those sentiments, no matter how well-studied, against the simple facts of how Evangelion was created, it is all exposed as made up one-sided interpretation made possible by the still-prevalent mindset of postmodern criticism (i.e., the original creators' intentions are not of higher importance because there is inherent equal significance and importance in the unrelated personal interpretations of everyone else). Ultimately, if people want to watch it, get meaning out of it, and think it's more than it is, that's up to them. But I'm not "retarded" for calling it what it is. Because, objectively, I'm right. And nothing can change that."